Making an Aeon has been done before so do you think Ruan mei will do this by making a new one or becoming onr herself? And will Lan of the Hunt become a problem if Yoashi is killed? Will a new Aeon have to be born to balance Lans hunting? A new form of Probagation or Abundance from all the hunting lol, The cycle of life cannot be stopped😅
the equilibrium is stronger than destruction, so a creation and destruction be asorb by the equilibrium. But the creation powers are indifference cause bad things to happen even some good in a ways not good
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasnt Naos a machine that by itself became an Eon? Naos purpose was to find an answer and through this Journey it ascend to Eonhood. So the first member did not create an eon but create the machine or being prior to it.
@@Macvairass with how ruan Mei is playing with Life (creating life) she probably wanna take the aeon of abundance skill or becoming an old aeon of creation
@@Macvairasscurrently, she's not. As a member of the Genius Society, she is automatically a follower of Erudition, yet the only 2 confirmed Emanators of Erudition are Zandar and Herta. Coincidentally, Zandar became an Emanator because he created Nous itself, so if Ruan Mei ever manages to achieve the same feat, she will most likely become the Emanator of the Aeon she creates.
Now I'm interest Jingliu, and Luocha planing God Slayer Protocol in order to kill Yaoshi with the help of Ruan Mei as she plan becoming Aeon herselft or creating an Aeon. Then does that mean Elio Script/Plan toward the MC against Nanook by implanting them with Stellaron, and also let them join Astral Express while collect every existence path in order for Elio to turn MC 'somewhat' of God Slayer like being in order for them to 'Slay' Nanook to save the Universe? If that the case that would be wild.
There is evidence that Tayzzyronth isn't really dead, just stripped of their strengh and sealed in Qlipoth's amber, Herta even says that their return, bringing about a second Swarm Disaster, is a very real possibility. I don't thing reviving Tayzzyronth is the goal of this "god-slayer protocol", but the possibility exists.
It was mentioned in the Swarm Disaster texts that Qlipoth stripped Tazzyronth of THEIR concept, so I am actually surprised that the flesh of Tazzyronth that Luocha has with him still has some powers.
The path of the Hunt is directly linked with the Abundance, if the Abundance falls so will the path of the Hunt, changing its original goal by killing Yaoshi and the Abundance would go against their Prime Immobile. The goal of the Hunt is to destroy the Abundance nothing more, they just can't change the origin of their philosophy to begin with.
@@idontspeakjapanese6289no Lan exist just for hunt He target yaoshi first only because the will left from his mortal self A path not bounded by another aeon So an aeon will not disappear after kill the cause make that aeon born
@@vietcuongnguyenle8530 So what like he will find another Aeon to hunt? That would go against his motivation of being an Aeon in the first place "To exterminate the Abundance" Let's say Lan would not disappear upon Yaoshi and the Abundances demise. What is the purpose of the Hunt if there is no Abundance? What's the purpose of death without life?
@@idontspeakjapanese6289 he represent the concept “ hunt” not “ kill yaoshi “ Kill yaoshi is the goal of his mortalself make yaoshi become the first target Kill yaoshi is just a part of hunting And he is not represent “ death” , hunting is like you trying achieve a goal and after achieve it you choose the next target
@@vietcuongnguyenle8530 you just ignored the fact that devs keeps pointing out that both Yaoshi and Lan both represents life and death. Anyway fine, I don't plan to prolong this kind of pointless debate with you. You have your opinion on the matter, I have my own. The truth isn't out yet so both of us are free to make our own assumption/theories on the matter and we will see who's in the right once the story reached its climax.
Fun paradox-like justification for Ruan mei becoming the aeon instead: creating the aeon of creation means shes created the ultimate creation, hence why she will herself become the aeon instead
@@idontspeakjapanese6289 It's tied to Honkai Impact 3rd, Origin and Finality have a deep connection there, in Star Rail it got mentioned in Acheron's myriad celestia as well... and the Aeon of Finality does already exist
Abundance seeks for the ending of suffering in which by preventing death(probably the main and most common source of suffering for any species) by granting them immortality. Might be wrong but i remember that Yaoshi on grants the blessings of Abundance to those who seeks it(for example the ancestors of the Xianzhou Alliance and the Borisins). And so by that Yaoshi is entirely different from Tazzyronth, one was born from loneliness who yearns for more of its kind leading to infinite propagation while the other was born from the wanting to end suffering. I feel like defining what a path represent by going by the literal definition of the name of each path is a very flawed way to approach the Aeons and even with you going by the literal definition of Abundance/Propagation its still incorrect, Abundance is to have many of something already exist( blessing of abundance means to have your life,a thing that already exist lengthen ) while propagation is the procedure of making offspring, more broadly making smthg more from smthg less(constant multiplication) Additionally while only been theorized, the 3rd way to kill an Aeon is to deny their existence, for example if Yaoshi "died" then Lan would no longer have a "prey" and "The Hunt" cannot exist without a prey to "Hunt" or how Doctor of Chaos successfully cured IX's depression and thus the Aeon lose its meaning of existence and thus can no longer represents a Path and "die"
Lan exstistence not bounded with yaoshi He may target yaoshi first because the will left from when he is mortal But doesn’t mean sucess kill yaoshi make his path finish It only mean a hunt ended and he will start a new hunt
As in how Order was assimilated into Harmony. In Order there is Harmony, but not all Harmony has Order. If Creation assimilates Abundance, it can work even if Abundance isn't the literal sense of creation. Yaoshi can be absorbed into Creation because Creation represents the broader path. And Yaoshi caused suffering with her gift of immortality as it lead to over population and people starved and died, and suffer from mara. They won't stop giving immortality just because of these side effects. All Yaoshi cares about is the extension of life, or to put it simply, to give everything an Abundance of, be it life or experience. Mortals (or long life species) don't have the capacity to affect Aeons. Only other Aeons can affect other Aeons. And thus even if Ena is to be assimilated into Xipe, it took several Aeons to weaken her for that to happen. And it took several Aeons as well to take down Tazzy. And thus now the Alliance will want a big Army (with their Aeons) to fit Yaoshi, so she could be assimilated into a new creation aeon, just like Xipe.
@@vietcuongnguyenle8530 Lan hunts those who plagued THEIR homeland, because Phantylia has been such a threat to the Xianzhhou, it is possible that Lan's next prey might be Nanook themselves
Now that u mention a new eon/ a possible new path, the path of creation. This connects to a speculation of a new mechanic coming to hsr which are summoned. So that might happen😅
I think Ruan Mei is better suited for the Biology rather than Creation. Which actually would fall under Erudition, rather than Abundance. Also, the 3rd way for an Aeon to die, might be referring to Idrila, THEY are considered as deceased, but THEY weren’t killed by another Aeon, and the Path of Beauty hasn’t been consumed by a bigger Path, instead, Idrila destroyed THEMSELVES in the pursuit of THEIR Path of Beauty, to spread Beauty across the cosmos. The 3rd Method, is an Aeon destroying THEMSELVES. I wonder if this is a danger that all Aeons may be facing? Heck, Qlipoth the Preservation is literally falling apart, we have several fragments from this Aeon collected, we don’t know if THEY’re regenerating or not, and where exactly is the material it is using to build the wall? The IPC’s materials aren’t being used, so what material is being used? Is Qlipoth using THEIR own body as material for the wall?? The Path of Preservation will crumble the Aeon of Preservation to pieces. Then we have Nanook, ever heard of Self-Destruction? This Aeon wants to destroy absolutely everything, and this Aeon is included in everything, being the Aeon of Destruction, would THEY refuse the Path of Destruction from facing Destruction itself? Then there is even Lan the Hunt as well. The Hunt is all about perception, hunting down your enemies, hunting down the forces of evil, hunting down everything wrong. However, under specific conditions, there could be those who see Lan the Hunt as something wrong, something to be hunted down as well. Whenever Lan loosens an arrow, many are killed, enemies and allies, guilty and innocent, I’m pretty sure by now, that there must be some people who are tired of innocence losing their lives for the sake of the Hunt, and will direct their arrow of Justice, at the Aeon of the Hunt THEMSELVES. Idk, maybe I’m looking to closely at this, and the 3rd Method of killing an Aeon is something else entirely. Is every Aeon truly being endangered by THEIR own Path?
Aeon of creation sounds more Logical and more Necessary than Aeon of Abundance or Propagation so yup what you just theorised I can see it totally happening
If they manage to be successful in their plan to kill Yaoshi or destroy the conept of the Abundance, wouldn't that act make the Equilibrium our enemy as well by interrupting Hooh's balance?
She could be the aeon of origin. We already know and have the Finality path with Terminus as its aeon. We dont know if an aeon of Origin exists. In HI3 there’s a herrscher of Finality and herrscher of Origin. The herrscher of origin is raiden MEI
i feel like this is what will cause the war between Aeons to break out, if Ruan Mei successfully assimilates and creates a whole new path, making the scales/pairings uneven and causing HooH to seek a replacement or split back apart, leading to unbalance in the universe and very permanent loss
One of the most perplexing ideas about Aeons that intrigue me to this day is their primum mobile. Primum mobiles are supposed mechanisms (probably creations of the equilibrium) that restrict an Aeon’s concept to a rigid path causing them to in a sense loose their freedom. What if an Aeon is born from the philosophical concept of autonomy? This Aeon’s concept would be being able to do whatever they desire as their autonomy would act as a logical loophole to the primum mobile as their entire concept revolves around self governance and control of oneself. If Ruan Mei focused on exemplifying the concept of autonomy, then she can relish in the intellectual power and control that being an aeon provides while being immune to whatever primum mobiles play in limiting her intellectual pursuit. Followers of autonomy would consist of those who are able to make their own choices and construct their own paths. Basically the path of autonomy functions as a hub of paths that enable their followers to follow whichever path they desire and are free to explore the imaginary as they wish.
I think the closest Aeon we have to Autonomy is Akivili the Trailblaze themselves. Their path is literally about forging new paths so maybe they escaped their primum mobile idk
My theory is that the history surrounding the propagation is a bit altered (by for instance the Enigmata etc.). What if the propagation was just misunderstood and had gained a cursed immortality that it never wanted and only could create its own company while never being able to find a true companion? Luocha genuinely seemed to show signs of care or love for whatever is in the coffin so I doubt it's just an insect corpse. It could be an HSR Kallen Kaslana that was turned into the Aeon of Propagation or that is somehow connected to it in a way...
@@farukmehmethanelmas8382 The concept of the Propagation actually begins with Tazzyronth's corruption of the path of Permanence, so yeah, the vine thingy is weird if it originated from the Permanence
well if there is an aeon of creation then it have a potential to absorb all aeon in HSR universe , because creation is too stong concept it evenelope all, because everything can begin with creation, it too OP to be allowed to exist
Ruan Mei would not seek out hunt help if the aeon would conflict with the Hunt. So I think it’s safe to say this would be eon of creation. Hunt would be eon of end of a life. We also call the hunt eon the rainbow arbiter… could it be that the hunt eon consumed the trailblazer and beauty as leaser forms of similar paths?
I forsee the god slayer project is remove all eons from the game but by killing one with tihs project might start a new war against all eons who may feel threatened by this. Im also trying to think how anything in HSR relates to Genshin after the archon arc is completed
I believe that we will see the body of Tayzzyronth infused with various powers and materials necessary to bring it back to "life". I use quotation marks because i don't believe that the full body will be used due to how destroyed it should be. So, its sentience would be as primal or even more primal than when it was at its peak, or completely non-sentient. However, i believe that Tayzzyronth is not the ultimate goal of Ruan Mei, technically. I think that the act of ressurecting an Aeon of such destruction is Ruan Mei trying to force Hooh to act. Tayzzyronth won't have as much power as before and willosy likely bomb rush Yaoshi and weaken her. But between thay time, Ruan Mei most likely hopes that Hooh will turn her into an Aeon to counterbalance the existence of Tayzzyronth. And this plan will ultimately succeed, with her becoming the Aeon of Creation, with Tayzzyronth dead by Ruan Mei's hand, Yaoshi weakened enough for Lan to start closing in and Ruan Mei fully ascended. Now comes the final act. Lan will attack Yaoshi with his most powerful attack the same time Ruan Mei starts absorbing her. This will be what allows Lan to continue existing, despite the reason of his ascension, the Abundance, being defeated. Ruan Mei will absord Yaoshi, but a part of her soul will remain in the physical realm, formed by the ripped apart pieces of Yaoshi from Lan's arrow, thay didn't have a body to reattach to and so fused together into a new, much weaker body and continued their eternal chase. But with most of the control of Abundance now absorbed by Ruan Mei it will mostly be running. However, Ruan Mei's cause for ascension has now disappeared... Nah, she would realise that since it's a key part of her ascension plan. So, she would absord Tayzzyronth, before expelling its consciousness into a very minor Propagation bug, contained in Herta's Space Station. But of course, it would hardly be considered a threat, right? So the logical, and mosy likely, path that Ruan Mei will take is just allowing Tayzzyronth to continue to propagate and sending its bugs, which by this time would be so much weaker than the normal bugs we fight, to fight the Denizens of Abundance. Of course theres lots of minor and major details that aren't here, but I'm not gonna continue typing for who knows how long
If Yaoshi dies, HooH would ascend a creature to replace the power vacuum and I personally think its gonna be Ruan Mei since she is also moving towards Path of Life.
I am not sure why people were convinced Ruan Mei, Luocha, Jing Liu know and cooperate with each other. For all we know, they could be against each other.
@@vietcuongnguyenle8530Agree. By the end of this patch, she already arrived in Luofu right? That Yaogang clearly told Jing Yuan to welcome the arrival of Ruan Mei and possibly with Tingyun. Luocha clearly said that the coffin was not his. So, who asked him to bring it to Luofu? It can be the real Tingyun (they knew each other and both were merchant guild member) or Ruan Mei because inside the coffin was the vessel of propagation and we knew that she was experimenting with that particular subject. Or both.
@@fatarehn4006 Not sure why, but I have a feeling the person who ask Luocha to bring the coffin to Luofu, cannot enter Xianzhou or Luofu himself/herself (maybe has been banned or something).
Dont like the idea of using the bugs to deal with pretty yaoshi. She dont look that evil compared to the annoying bugs that destroy worlds. And how she plan controling it? It could turn against them at the end
Hmmm like i dunno i have this feeling that. Like I've been thinking that when tyzza died the orboros disappeared that's why I've been thinking what if let's say hunt finally killed abundance, the path of both aeon will still exists but the aeon themselves will disappear like hunt will probably just be gone "poof" dunno just my thought. I'm sorry for my bad english😭😅
Yeah I never said it was creating but a lot of as the name states but I still think if Harmomy can assimilate order then I do think creation would assimilate both those aeons as kits stronger path
@TheGamerChronicles999 yeah but like the abundance path is too different from creation, so it has little chances to assimilate it. It's similar to how destruction isnt able to absorb the hunt and voracity even though both are destructive in nature
@butter4104 possibly but I still think creating is broader path then maintaining life so it would win and be a very broad path like equilibrium but either way they need and aeon to kill it
@@Sloshysoshi he dissapear after fighting tazzyroth And tazzyroth suddenly too much strong so it require several aeon cooperate to defeat him ? What you think can happen And if he not dead, people will know because it is ouroboros, the world eater , who never stop eating
"there is no one in the honkai verse who came has close as ruan mei as creating an aeon" *Otto laughing histerically in the corner* My dude Otto literally created a complete aeon
Jingliu essentially wants ultimate revenge against Yaoshi because they are the root cause behind all of her suffering. Her home world, the Xianzhou ship Cangcheng, was eaten by a sentient planet that spawned from the Abundance. Later on, Baiheng, the person that Jingliu had formed the strongest bond with, sacrificed herself to kill Yaoshi’s Emanator Shuhu. Dan Feng (Dan Heng’s past self) tried to use a combination of Shuhu’s flesh and Vidyadhara magic to bring Baiheng back but accidentally turned her remains into a monster that Jingliu was forced to kill. Jingliu went mad the year after that happened. So yeah, Jingliu wants to kill Yaoshi because they corrupted and took away everything from her aside from being a general source of suffering for her people. We don’t have all details on Luocha, but it’s highly implied that his home world was destroyed by the Abundance too. Jingliu has a voiceline where she notes how similar Luocha is to her in terms of the nature of their suffering.
What's the starting point of an Aeon? Do they simply just exist or can they be a normal person, born as a baby and somehow becomes an Aeon. Ruan Mei seems to think she can become one but she seems to be taking the science experiment route which may not be the natural way to become on
We don't really have the answer on how or the qualifications to ascend into aoenhood. But we do know that anything can become an aeon, organic or inorganic. Nanook became an aeon when the swarm destroyed his planet, as well as Lan who is a normal person who hates the abundance with the combination of a heliobi became an aeon. As well as Nous who was a machine created by Zandar.
@Chinatsu_Kano thanks for answering. I was using a baby becoming an aeon as an example but it is interesting to think that a machine can become an aeon too. Maybe there's something above aeon, hmm 🤔
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Making an Aeon has been done before so do you think Ruan mei will do this by making a new one or becoming onr herself? And will Lan of the Hunt become a problem if Yoashi is killed? Will a new Aeon have to be born to balance Lans hunting? A new form of Probagation or Abundance from all the hunting lol, The cycle of life cannot be stopped😅
so true lan will hunt something else
the equilibrium is stronger than destruction, so a creation and destruction be asorb by the equilibrium. But the creation powers are indifference cause bad things to happen even some good in a ways not good
I heard a path of turn into another path, so the hunt become what if it not become a maker just the ambition
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasnt Naos a machine that by itself became an Eon? Naos purpose was to find an answer and through this Journey it ascend to Eonhood. So the first member did not create an eon but create the machine or being prior to it.
@skistorm739 I agree equilibrium is probably the strongest path in the game or at least up there
Ruan mei will either be an aeon or emanator forsure she got that energy
Ruan bae
She is already an emanator. Question is by whom
@@Macvairass with how ruan Mei is playing with Life (creating life) she probably wanna take the aeon of abundance skill or becoming an old aeon of creation
@@Macvairasscurrently, she's not. As a member of the Genius Society, she is automatically a follower of Erudition, yet the only 2 confirmed Emanators of Erudition are Zandar and Herta. Coincidentally, Zandar became an Emanator because he created Nous itself, so if Ruan Mei ever manages to achieve the same feat, she will most likely become the Emanator of the Aeon she creates.
*SPOILER*
She’s confirmed she WILL become an Aeon. It IS still a leak so it might change
Now I'm interest Jingliu, and Luocha planing God Slayer Protocol in order to kill Yaoshi with the help of Ruan Mei as she plan becoming Aeon herselft or creating an Aeon. Then does that mean Elio Script/Plan toward the MC against Nanook by implanting them with Stellaron, and also let them join Astral Express while collect every existence path in order for Elio to turn MC 'somewhat' of God Slayer like being in order for them to 'Slay' Nanook to save the Universe? If that the case that would be wild.
There is evidence that Tayzzyronth isn't really dead, just stripped of their strengh and sealed in Qlipoth's amber, Herta even says that their return, bringing about a second Swarm Disaster, is a very real possibility. I don't thing reviving Tayzzyronth is the goal of this "god-slayer protocol", but the possibility exists.
It was mentioned in the Swarm Disaster texts that Qlipoth stripped Tazzyronth of THEIR concept, so I am actually surprised that the flesh of Tazzyronth that Luocha has with him still has some powers.
@@idontspeakjapanese6289 I am more surprised, Luocha can get hold of fragment of Tazzyronth divine body. It was supposed to be sealed by Qlipoth.
i think after succesfuly killing yaoshi the abundance the hunt will propably go after nanook the distroction, just a thought
The path of the Hunt is directly linked with the Abundance, if the Abundance falls so will the path of the Hunt, changing its original goal by killing Yaoshi and the Abundance would go against their Prime Immobile.
The goal of the Hunt is to destroy the Abundance nothing more, they just can't change the origin of their philosophy to begin with.
@@idontspeakjapanese6289no
Lan exist just for hunt
He target yaoshi first only because the will left from his mortal self
A path not bounded by another aeon
So an aeon will not disappear after kill the cause make that aeon born
@@vietcuongnguyenle8530 So what like he will find another Aeon to hunt? That would go against his motivation of being an Aeon in the first place "To exterminate the Abundance" Let's say Lan would not disappear upon Yaoshi and the Abundances demise. What is the purpose of the Hunt if there is no Abundance? What's the purpose of death without life?
@@idontspeakjapanese6289 he represent the concept “ hunt” not “ kill yaoshi “
Kill yaoshi is the goal of his mortalself make yaoshi become the first target
Kill yaoshi is just a part of hunting
And he is not represent “ death” , hunting is like you trying achieve a goal and after achieve it you choose the next target
@@vietcuongnguyenle8530 you just ignored the fact that devs keeps pointing out that both Yaoshi and Lan both represents life and death.
Anyway fine, I don't plan to prolong this kind of pointless debate with you. You have your opinion on the matter, I have my own. The truth isn't out yet so both of us are free to make our own assumption/theories on the matter and we will see who's in the right once the story reached its climax.
Fun paradox-like justification for Ruan mei becoming the aeon instead: creating the aeon of creation means shes created the ultimate creation, hence why she will herself become the aeon instead
I was about to write this, so i agree with you. 💖💖
In good old honkai fashion, I bet they wouldn't call it Aeon of Creation, but either Origin or Beginning, very interesting theory!
Aeon of Origin does have a nice ring to it dont yall think?
Just curious, Is Origin a philosophy or a concept?
@@idontspeakjapanese6289 It's tied to Honkai Impact 3rd, Origin and Finality have a deep connection there, in Star Rail it got mentioned in Acheron's myriad celestia as well... and the Aeon of Finality does already exist
@@beambreaker300 Not to be disrespectful but I don't really care much about the lore of Hi3rd, I am just asking is Origin a concept or a philosophy?
@@idontspeakjapanese6289 Ah alright sorry, just the concept, beginning and end cycle kinda deal
Just so happy tingyun is back❤
Abundance seeks for the ending of suffering in which by preventing death(probably the main and most common source of suffering for any species) by granting them immortality. Might be wrong but i remember that Yaoshi on grants the blessings of Abundance to those who seeks it(for example the ancestors of the Xianzhou Alliance and the Borisins). And so by that Yaoshi is entirely different from Tazzyronth, one was born from loneliness who yearns for more of its kind leading to infinite propagation while the other was born from the wanting to end suffering. I feel like defining what a path represent by going by the literal definition of the name of each path is a very flawed way to approach the Aeons and even with you going by the literal definition of Abundance/Propagation its still incorrect, Abundance is to have many of something already exist( blessing of abundance means to have your life,a thing that already exist lengthen ) while propagation is the procedure of making offspring, more broadly making smthg more from smthg less(constant multiplication)
Additionally while only been theorized, the 3rd way to kill an Aeon is to deny their existence, for example if Yaoshi "died" then Lan would no longer have a "prey" and "The Hunt" cannot exist without a prey to "Hunt" or how Doctor of Chaos successfully cured IX's depression and thus the Aeon lose its meaning of existence and thus can no longer represents a Path and "die"
Lan exstistence not bounded with yaoshi
He may target yaoshi first because the will left from when he is mortal
But doesn’t mean sucess kill yaoshi make his path finish
It only mean a hunt ended and he will start a new hunt
As in how Order was assimilated into Harmony. In Order there is Harmony, but not all Harmony has Order. If Creation assimilates Abundance, it can work even if Abundance isn't the literal sense of creation. Yaoshi can be absorbed into Creation because Creation represents the broader path. And Yaoshi caused suffering with her gift of immortality as it lead to over population and people starved and died, and suffer from mara. They won't stop giving immortality just because of these side effects. All Yaoshi cares about is the extension of life, or to put it simply, to give everything an Abundance of, be it life or experience.
Mortals (or long life species) don't have the capacity to affect Aeons. Only other Aeons can affect other Aeons. And thus even if Ena is to be assimilated into Xipe, it took several Aeons to weaken her for that to happen. And it took several Aeons as well to take down Tazzy.
And thus now the Alliance will want a big Army (with their Aeons) to fit Yaoshi, so she could be assimilated into a new creation aeon, just like Xipe.
@@vietcuongnguyenle8530 Lan hunts those who plagued THEIR homeland, because Phantylia has been such a threat to the Xianzhhou, it is possible that Lan's next prey might be Nanook themselves
@@darkwarfare772 although would the alliance really want to do anything with Yaoshi after THEY are dead?😭
Now that u mention a new eon/ a possible new path, the path of creation. This connects to a speculation of a new mechanic coming to hsr which are summoned. So that might happen😅
I think Ruan Mei is better suited for the Biology rather than Creation. Which actually would fall under Erudition, rather than Abundance.
Also, the 3rd way for an Aeon to die, might be referring to Idrila, THEY are considered as deceased, but THEY weren’t killed by another Aeon, and the Path of Beauty hasn’t been consumed by a bigger Path, instead, Idrila destroyed THEMSELVES in the pursuit of THEIR Path of Beauty, to spread Beauty across the cosmos.
The 3rd Method, is an Aeon destroying THEMSELVES.
I wonder if this is a danger that all Aeons may be facing?
Heck, Qlipoth the Preservation is literally falling apart, we have several fragments from this Aeon collected, we don’t know if THEY’re regenerating or not, and where exactly is the material it is using to build the wall? The IPC’s materials aren’t being used, so what material is being used? Is Qlipoth using THEIR own body as material for the wall?? The Path of Preservation will crumble the Aeon of Preservation to pieces.
Then we have Nanook, ever heard of Self-Destruction? This Aeon wants to destroy absolutely everything, and this Aeon is included in everything, being the Aeon of Destruction, would THEY refuse the Path of Destruction from facing Destruction itself?
Then there is even Lan the Hunt as well. The Hunt is all about perception, hunting down your enemies, hunting down the forces of evil, hunting down everything wrong. However, under specific conditions, there could be those who see Lan the Hunt as something wrong, something to be hunted down as well. Whenever Lan loosens an arrow, many are killed, enemies and allies, guilty and innocent, I’m pretty sure by now, that there must be some people who are tired of innocence losing their lives for the sake of the Hunt, and will direct their arrow of Justice, at the Aeon of the Hunt THEMSELVES.
Idk, maybe I’m looking to closely at this, and the 3rd Method of killing an Aeon is something else entirely. Is every Aeon truly being endangered by THEIR own Path?
Aeon of creation sounds more Logical and more Necessary than Aeon of Abundance or Propagation so yup what you just theorised I can see it totally happening
What will happen when abundunce dissapeare, will hunt become confused or self-distruct
Exactly all aeons need to go tbh
Lan became a new evolved Aeon similar to Akivili that became Terminus once THEY finished their journey.
@@jerryeljeremy7790 where is it stated that akivili became terminus in the game ???
@@mathewgeorge121 no, it's my assumption
@@mathewgeorge121 that's just a classic enigmata follower
What terrifies me to no end is the idea of Ruan Mei becoming an Aeon could spell doom for everyone because of how she acts
If they manage to be successful in their plan to kill Yaoshi or destroy the conept of the Abundance, wouldn't that act make the Equilibrium our enemy as well by interrupting Hooh's balance?
very good question and quite possible
I hate to be that guy but its not Ting-yuan, its Tingyun lol
making an aeon who would eat away Yaoshi and Abundance path into new path would be crazy, but
She could be the aeon of origin.
We already know and have the Finality path with Terminus as its aeon.
We dont know if an aeon of Origin exists.
In HI3 there’s a herrscher of Finality and herrscher of Origin.
The herrscher of origin is raiden MEI
It feels everyone is just tools in aeons' hands. Its in their interest to destroy eachother
Lan gunna start a war with other aeons till its killed or none left
i feel like this is what will cause the war between Aeons to break out, if Ruan Mei successfully assimilates and creates a whole new path, making the scales/pairings uneven and causing HooH to seek a replacement or split back apart, leading to unbalance in the universe and very permanent loss
One of the most perplexing ideas about Aeons that intrigue me to this day is their primum mobile. Primum mobiles are supposed mechanisms (probably creations of the equilibrium) that restrict an Aeon’s concept to a rigid path causing them to in a sense loose their freedom. What if an Aeon is born from the philosophical concept of autonomy? This Aeon’s concept would be being able to do whatever they desire as their autonomy would act as a logical loophole to the primum mobile as their entire concept revolves around self governance and control of oneself.
If Ruan Mei focused on exemplifying the concept of autonomy, then she can relish in the intellectual power and control that being an aeon provides while being immune to whatever primum mobiles play in limiting her intellectual pursuit. Followers of autonomy would consist of those who are able to make their own choices and construct their own paths. Basically the path of autonomy functions as a hub of paths that enable their followers to follow whichever path they desire and are free to explore the imaginary as they wish.
I think the closest Aeon we have to Autonomy is Akivili the Trailblaze themselves. Their path is literally about forging new paths so maybe they escaped their primum mobile idk
So she's basically the scaramouch of hsr
I still think it's kinda sus why would a fragment of the propagation appear as thorny vines. And he was talking to it and made a promise with it
very sus
And Luocha tried to seduce it 💀
My theory is that the history surrounding the propagation is a bit altered (by for instance the Enigmata etc.). What if the propagation was just misunderstood and had gained a cursed immortality that it never wanted and only could create its own company while never being able to find a true companion? Luocha genuinely seemed to show signs of care or love for whatever is in the coffin so I doubt it's just an insect corpse. It could be an HSR Kallen Kaslana that was turned into the Aeon of Propagation or that is somehow connected to it in a way...
Also Luocha might be an Emanator of Abundance and using his power to seal whatever is in the coffin? Or sustaining it so it stays alive?
@@farukmehmethanelmas8382 The concept of the Propagation actually begins with Tazzyronth's corruption of the path of Permanence, so yeah, the vine thingy is weird if it originated from the Permanence
well if there is an aeon of creation then it have a potential to absorb all aeon in HSR universe , because creation is too stong concept it evenelope all, because everything can begin with creation, it too OP to be allowed to exist
keep cooking bro!
Ruan Mei would not seek out hunt help if the aeon would conflict with the Hunt. So I think it’s safe to say this would be eon of creation. Hunt would be eon of end of a life. We also call the hunt eon the rainbow arbiter… could it be that the hunt eon consumed the trailblazer and beauty as leaser forms of similar paths?
I forsee the god slayer project is remove all eons from the game but by killing one with tihs project might start a new war against all eons who may feel threatened by this.
Im also trying to think how anything in HSR relates to Genshin after the archon arc is completed
I think it will be their way of war similar to stone hearts and all other aeon followers
Agree might cause my problems in the long run maintaining right now as they are might be better in the big pucture till they can eliminate all aeons
creation would be cool to go along with nanook the destruction
Would the path of abundance and propagation maybe become a new path "cultivation" for Ruan Mei. Kinda like what happened with Xipe
Hunt and Finality imo should collide. They both represent the end
I think she will be an aeon herself but I think it will be the same approach as you said but good video
Ur speaking my mind. I thought the exact same, but I think something will go wrong and Ruan Mei will become the Aeon instead
9:53 Kafka knowsshe she is her 🌬️🩷💀
I believe that we will see the body of Tayzzyronth infused with various powers and materials necessary to bring it back to "life". I use quotation marks because i don't believe that the full body will be used due to how destroyed it should be. So, its sentience would be as primal or even more primal than when it was at its peak, or completely non-sentient. However, i believe that Tayzzyronth is not the ultimate goal of Ruan Mei, technically. I think that the act of ressurecting an Aeon of such destruction is Ruan Mei trying to force Hooh to act. Tayzzyronth won't have as much power as before and willosy likely bomb rush Yaoshi and weaken her. But between thay time, Ruan Mei most likely hopes that Hooh will turn her into an Aeon to counterbalance the existence of Tayzzyronth. And this plan will ultimately succeed, with her becoming the Aeon of Creation, with Tayzzyronth dead by Ruan Mei's hand, Yaoshi weakened enough for Lan to start closing in and Ruan Mei fully ascended. Now comes the final act. Lan will attack Yaoshi with his most powerful attack the same time Ruan Mei starts absorbing her. This will be what allows Lan to continue existing, despite the reason of his ascension, the Abundance, being defeated. Ruan Mei will absord Yaoshi, but a part of her soul will remain in the physical realm, formed by the ripped apart pieces of Yaoshi from Lan's arrow, thay didn't have a body to reattach to and so fused together into a new, much weaker body and continued their eternal chase. But with most of the control of Abundance now absorbed by Ruan Mei it will mostly be running. However, Ruan Mei's cause for ascension has now disappeared... Nah, she would realise that since it's a key part of her ascension plan. So, she would absord Tayzzyronth, before expelling its consciousness into a very minor Propagation bug, contained in Herta's Space Station. But of course, it would hardly be considered a threat, right? So the logical, and mosy likely, path that Ruan Mei will take is just allowing Tayzzyronth to continue to propagate and sending its bugs, which by this time would be so much weaker than the normal bugs we fight, to fight the Denizens of Abundance. Of course theres lots of minor and major details that aren't here, but I'm not gonna continue typing for who knows how long
If Yaoshi dies, HooH would ascend a creature to replace the power vacuum and I personally think its gonna be Ruan Mei since she is also moving towards Path of Life.
I am not sure why people were convinced Ruan Mei, Luocha, Jing Liu know and cooperate with each other. For all we know, they could be against each other.
Uhm, why ruan mei must to protect yaoshi ?
@@vietcuongnguyenle8530 I mean Ruan Mei could be want to become Aeon too but it doesn't mean Ruan Mei cooperate or even know Luocha and Jing Liu.
@@angelareader932 she is a reseacher and having a goal
As long as it benefit her, why she refuse to cooperate with them 🤷🏻♂️
@@vietcuongnguyenle8530Agree. By the end of this patch, she already arrived in Luofu right? That Yaogang clearly told Jing Yuan to welcome the arrival of Ruan Mei and possibly with Tingyun. Luocha clearly said that the coffin was not his. So, who asked him to bring it to Luofu? It can be the real Tingyun (they knew each other and both were merchant guild member) or Ruan Mei because inside the coffin was the vessel of propagation and we knew that she was experimenting with that particular subject. Or both.
@@fatarehn4006 Not sure why, but I have a feeling the person who ask Luocha to bring the coffin to Luofu, cannot enter Xianzhou or Luofu himself/herself (maybe has been banned or something).
HSR is cooking ‼‼‼
I am crazy they the one who asked for long life in the first place and after getting tired of it it's war against abundance 😂
Dont like the idea of using the bugs to deal with pretty yaoshi. She dont look that evil compared to the annoying bugs that destroy worlds. And how she plan controling it? It could turn against them at the end
Yaoshi will become the next disaster of the universe if Lan not born to restrain her
Ruan Mei, the Biomanipulation Aeon
I like the idea that she becomes an Aeon of manipulation of life
hmmm interesting exciting to see how this plays out makes sense tho make or turnurself into one to kill yoashi
Ruan Mei will become the aeon of the Godslayer Protocol I think.
Ruan Mei want to become an Aeon she told us in her own Patch story
then she very well might be
Like where this story is headed hate we have to wait tho haha
Hmmm like i dunno i have this feeling that. Like I've been thinking that when tyzza died the orboros disappeared that's why I've been thinking what if let's say hunt finally killed abundance, the path of both aeon will still exists but the aeon themselves will disappear like hunt will probably just be gone "poof" dunno just my thought.
I'm sorry for my bad english😭😅
I think even if Ruan Mei create aeon this aeon would be aeon of purity or something like this creation is too simple
Most likely a zombie bug they want to release on to abundance aeon with a kill switch
Would Ruan Mei become the new aeon of abundance considering her obsession with life?
there is already aeon of abundance they trying to kill so I'd say no creation relates to life lore then having a lot of something
The third way Aeon died is they lose their purpose. If Yaoshi get killed, then Lan will die too.
Ting Yuan 💀
I know an aeon that can kara cancel and negative edge
Use the remain of Aeon.... wait
Abundance is a path that maintains life, it doesnt create it. If there were to be a creation aeon i think it would only assimilate with propagation
Yeah I never said it was creating but a lot of as the name states but I still think if Harmomy can assimilate order then I do think creation would assimilate both those aeons as kits stronger path
@TheGamerChronicles999 yeah but like the abundance path is too different from creation, so it has little chances to assimilate it. It's similar to how destruction isnt able to absorb the hunt and voracity even though both are destructive in nature
@butter4104 possibly but I still think creating is broader path then maintaining life so it would win and be a very broad path like equilibrium but either way they need and aeon to kill it
So if Lan will lost its main target Abundance, there is a big chance it would target Oruboros, or the IPC
Xianzhou vs IPC would be catasthrope for the world.
Oroboros already dead
For now the biggest target for Lan could be nanook
@@vietcuongnguyenle8530 there is no true evidence that oroboros is dead, Oroboros simply disappear
@@Sloshysoshi he dissapear after fighting tazzyroth
And tazzyroth suddenly too much strong so it require several aeon cooperate to defeat him ?
What you think can happen
And if he not dead, people will know because it is ouroboros, the world eater , who never stop eating
Maybe…hopefully! This is the opportunity to make the xienzhou be evil.
I don’t want to kill yaoshi
"there is no one in the honkai verse who came has close as ruan mei as creating an aeon"
*Otto laughing histerically in the corner*
My dude Otto literally created a complete aeon
Primordial one rolling in his sleep
@@abdollahelghadoui5701 no
I want an Aeon of famine and a emenator of It
Famine is just a sub category of destruction, even if it's created it will get absorbed by destruction
Why do u call Tingyun like that lmao
Girlie is SO Era 0 Dr MEI coded, it's not even funny
She is also Dr. Mei
I just have a question, what is the reason of Loucha in killing Yaoshi? Same goes to Jingliu what is her reason in being in this plan?
Jingliu essentially wants ultimate revenge against Yaoshi because they are the root cause behind all of her suffering. Her home world, the Xianzhou ship Cangcheng, was eaten by a sentient planet that spawned from the Abundance. Later on, Baiheng, the person that Jingliu had formed the strongest bond with, sacrificed herself to kill Yaoshi’s Emanator Shuhu. Dan Feng (Dan Heng’s past self) tried to use a combination of Shuhu’s flesh and Vidyadhara magic to bring Baiheng back but accidentally turned her remains into a monster that Jingliu was forced to kill. Jingliu went mad the year after that happened. So yeah, Jingliu wants to kill Yaoshi because they corrupted and took away everything from her aside from being a general source of suffering for her people.
We don’t have all details on Luocha, but it’s highly implied that his home world was destroyed by the Abundance too. Jingliu has a voiceline where she notes how similar Luocha is to her in terms of the nature of their suffering.
What's the starting point of an Aeon? Do they simply just exist or can they be a normal person, born as a baby and somehow becomes an Aeon. Ruan Mei seems to think she can become one but she seems to be taking the science experiment route which may not be the natural way to become on
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We don't really have the answer on how or the qualifications to ascend into aoenhood. But we do know that anything can become an aeon, organic or inorganic. Nanook became an aeon when the swarm destroyed his planet, as well as Lan who is a normal person who hates the abundance with the combination of a heliobi became an aeon. As well as Nous who was a machine created by Zandar.
@Chinatsu_Kano thanks for answering. I was using a baby becoming an aeon as an example but it is interesting to think that a machine can become an aeon too. Maybe there's something above aeon, hmm 🤔
So Rain Mei will become the aeon of creation and destroy the aeon of destruction
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