tips for people who are planning to seriously switch to roux(from someone who switched about 2 months ago): -really, the hardest step in roux is doing the two blocks, the reason simply being how pieces go flying everywhere and as mentioned in the video lookahead is really hard. so you'll have to mess around timelessly with with the method a lot to understand how much free space you have and how you can use it to your advantage. -if you already know coll, you can use it instead of the cmll algs. but most roux solvers would still recommend learning cmll. -get used to the M slice. because the key to getting fast with roux is mostly being fast with the last two steps(lse and cmll) while cmll is algorithmic, LSE is all about the M slice. in fact, j Perm's solve was THAT good because of how fast he was in those two steps. his blockbuilding wasn't too good but it was sub-10 which was good enough to get a sub 15 solve. -in roux, being colour neutral with any colour with white or yellow on top or bottom is enough. you don't have to go for all 24 cases. the best roux solvers didn't bother expanding their colour neutrality more than that. -Example solves are the key to mastering blockbuilding.
+HBの魔方達人 I'm not the best roux solver but I understand the most important concept. I'm currently sub-30. I watched a lot of tutorials mostly on blockbuilding because it is the hardest step for me(I currently need 16 secs to solve the blocks) and i'm starting to get the handle of it by time. all I need now is lookahead. for cmll and LSE, I learned 2-look cmll and stopped there. I did a lot of training solves on LSE to understand the concept of it and I'm pretty much handling it pretty good, again all I'm missing is lookahead (although lookahead on LSE is A LOT easier since there is little space and you can see what you are looking for easily). for someone starting, I'd recommend getting the hand of LSE asap. it is one of the most important keys to getting faster since, again, the only reason j perm's solve was sub 15 was because of his fast cmll and LSE. also, I'd recommend learning full cmll in your free time. kian has a whole google drive file that cuts them into groups(sunes, two corners, etc) and has a video showing fingertricks for all of them. and binge watch example solves because they're key to understanding the free space you have in blockbuilding and how you can use that space for advantage.
+HBの魔方達人 I'm not the best roux solver but I understand the most important concept. I'm currently sub-30. I watched a lot of tutorials mostly on blockbuilding because it is the hardest step for me(I currently need 16 secs to solve the blocks) and i'm starting to get the handle of it by time. all I need now is lookahead. for cmll and LSE, I learned 2-look cmll and stopped there. I did a lot of training solves on LSE to understand the concept of it and I'm pretty much handling it pretty good, again all I'm missing is lookahead (although lookahead on LSE is A LOT easier since there is little space and you can see what you are looking for easily). for someone starting, I'd recommend getting the hand of LSE asap. it is one of the most important keys to getting faster since, again, the only reason j perm's solve was sub 15 was because of his fast cmll and LSE. also, I'd recommend learning full cmll in your free time. kian has a whole google drive file that cuts them into groups(sunes, two corners, etc) and has a video showing fingertricks for all of them. and binge watch example solves because they're key to understanding the free space you have in blockbuilding and how you can use that space for advantage.
I'm happy to see more people making Roux tutorials! I'm a big fan of your videos by the way, your ideas are really unique and you're very good at expressing your thoughts. I haven't actually watched this video yet (power outage here right now so I'm on data on my phone haha) but I can't wait to watch it soon!
Hey J perm I use CFOP with 4 Look Last Layer but I can never get faster than a minute. My f2l is like 30 seconds! (I am not willing to learn algorithms for f2l, I use intuitive f2l)Please help. Should I switch to Roux or is this ok because it’s my first month with CFOP.
this is fine, just work on getting muscle memory for all the cases so you can execute them without thinking. cfop is great, but if you think roux might be better for you since you don't want to learn as many algs, you can try roux too. up to you, both methods are great!
No one teaches cubing better than you (literally) I saw your f2l tutorial and it was Way More BETTER than those 20-30 minute long ones THANK YOU SO MUCH!! Lots of love from India
This is a great video for me. For someone who's been struggling with Roux for sometime. I used to be sub-20 with CFOP then tried to give Roux a try since I love M slices and think the rotationless part was great. For around 2 weeks of using Roux, I was troubled because I never got a sub-20 solve with it and average around 30. I watch walkthrough solves and tutorials from Kian Mansour but never really felt an improvement. I decided to go back to CFOP and immediately after a couple of solves, I am already hitting sub-15 averages of 12 and recently Ao100. My time with Roux improved my look ahead that much that my time decreased a lot. I recently got a 11 second PB on CFOP but I still think Roux is my way to go so I went to give Roux method another try. I noticed something that most Roux solvers I did used right hand for M slices and left hand for U slices, I tried to relate this to my style which was lefty M and righty U. And I think that most Roux solvers do this because their first block goes on the left and having their left hand block that part for U turns would be okay, meaning more look ahead for the second block. So I did, first block on right and got an improvement in my times. In the end I'm getting consistent averages with this, although I'm still not able to go sub 20 with Roux, I decided to stick to this. I am still undecided whether to give up CFOP to pursue Roux, but this video made me think that using Roux method may be worth it. I learned COLL from this Channel, and if I continue to do more Roux, I'll just learn sune and anti sune CMLLs
Sup! I already forgot this comment exists. And, I do use Roux exclusively today. I forgot a lot of OLL algs already but I never once regretted switching. (Although I've been on and off on cubing a lot throughout these years)
@@vlogingwithmia5944 honestly I’ve been using cfop and I struggle to hit sub 15, I average around 20 seconds right now and my look ahead could use some work. I want to hit around 12-10 average preferably, do you think switching to roux would do that?
Switching to Roux in most cases won't help you reach that goal as it will when you break that certain barrier holding you back which applies to all methods, and if you plateau at CFOP, you're also guaranteed to plateau somewhere in Roux just as I also have. So I can't really tell if it will help or not. But what I can tell is that you'll only get better solving at a method you enjoy doing. If you switch because people tell you one is superior over the other (Which isn't actually proven at this point), you're destined to hit a brick wall. You could try roux for a week or two and see if it works for you. You're more than welcome to go back to CFOP if you find out roux is not for you.
Nice video! A couple of comments from a Rouxer: Don't rotate during 2H FB. Don't ever rotate. The only time you should be rotating is if you've 1-looked most/all of F2B and you can see the solution is going to be more ergonomic from a different angle. Especially in a tutorial, you should aim to encourage good habits. Lookahead isn't any harder with Roux, it's just a different type of lookahead. With CFOP, you're concentrating on things moving around in the E/y/U direction (can't think of a better word), but with Roux, it's the M/x/R direction. The edge at the back is very rarely a problem, and anyway, CFOP has edges at the back too. That's all I have to say really, great video. Always good to see more Roux resources being created!
As a 51 year old ROUXber that starting cubing one year ago this week... Thanks a ton. It's always nice to get another MASTER's view of performing the same process in a different manner. You taught me a thing or two. And it's always nice to see someone giving Kian credit where it's due. He's truly brought ROUXbing to a higher level.
I jumped straight into cubing with ROUX after watching a video by STANDUPMATHS when he went to the 2016 UK Nationals and met someone who shortly explained part of ROUX vs CFOP.... I was instantly hooked! And an an old fart trying to figure out how the young turds solved so fast...ROUX made that possible. My 3x3 is 33 seconds and recently bought a 7x7 which has helped my 5x5 and 4x4 times a LOT. Thanks for what you do and thank RUclips for the shortcuts to SLOWING the video speeds down so that I can see what you guys are doing...HA!
Very nice video. A recommendation: Don't use the RrUM EO algs. They transition horribly to the rest of LSE, and without them, you can regrip to a MU grip after CMLL while recognizing EO for all EOs, which which make that pretty mindless and fast. Also I think rotationless first block is the way to go even for beginners. I think it's much harder to learn FB with rotations than learn to not rotate on it than to learn it rotationless from the get go (which is what I did).
thanks! I showed FB with rotations for visual purposes but probably should have done rotationless on the second example. but as u can see for the last pair in the FB second example, I was really struggling to show what's happening at the back. I agree with the eo thing. back when I used roux I knew all the algs, but now I've forgotten the ones that have the D edges oriented lol.
I’m really really happy that you made this video. I don’t really see roux tutorial(or intro)on RUclips and this is great! I might consider to switch to it!
Man, i really needed an amazing tutorial like this when I switched to roux last year. Funny thing is, I keep seeing roux tutorials, which is good for people who want to switch now, but I really wish I had good tutorials like this when I switched...
I saw this video, got discouraged to switch, then went back to cstimer, and guess what I found... The scramble had a full 1st block done! I got a 4.88 with blue triple x cross lol Scramble: (4.88) D' L D L B R F D R' F2 R2 F2 R F2 R D2 F2 R B'
King Turny, yeah, triple x cross isn't something you see everyday. Also, I'm white and yellow only so I don't do blue. I retried this scramble holing green top, white facing you, and got a 3.95...
This is very helpful. I've been watching tutorials on how to solve rubick's cube with roux method. Some of them gave me ideas but you sir explained it very well. Im looking forward to switch cfop to roux so pls sir do tutorials about algs, edge orientations, and techniques.
I won't be going super in depth, I just wanted to show the method and direct you to resources and other channels (description). I personally use the cfop method and I am not as knowledgeable about roux
@@want-diversecontent3887 I switch to roux with a 25 seconds cfop average I came back for fun and got a new pb of 10 seconds and 18 seconds average But roux users should also use cfop for a month or 2
thanks so much i got inspired with cfop by you and i wanted to step it up a notch 2 years later and i thought man i think you got everything at this point. You never disappoint❤
Usually that's not luck to have the correct edges in the bottom. You actually influence the edges that go down to the bottom during the solve. You can turn it into regular PLL if you want, which is quite handy. Because it's usually a Uperm. If you know it's not going to be a uperm, then you can stick with it, and do a Z or H perm, or you can do it with LSE. It doesn't have to be the same edges as the blocks, that just makes it easier, cause you don't have to AUF at the end.. But once you do it for a while, you learn that the adjacent edge takes the place of the block edge. So say you made blue and green and then used the orange and red edge cause they were down there. That is still a better solution than swapping them for the correct edges.
This video came out of nowhere lol. I already use Roux. I will watch this and see if this is accurate and efficient :) Edit 1: 4:53 a way to teach it to beginners (because they cant tell intuitive cases) is just to solve the white center and solve the white edges with M’ U2 M Edit 2: 5:30 you can do Rw’ F to insert that pair Edit 3: 8:14 you can do that even in second block lol. Very handy kinda keyhole thing :) Edit 4: 8:52 but LSE is shorter than OLL and PLL if you easily practice some lookahead and EOLR Edit 5: but inspection is easier imo and lookahead comes with practice just like cfop Edit 6: 9:32 its good on 4x4 and 5x5 and i think thats the limit Overall this is a good tutorial however I like CriticalCubing’s tutorial better. Pls add me to the roux cubers in desc lol
@@JPerm n perms- mostly found in timed solves(though still very very rare) pll skips(found during untimed solves) and almost never appears in timed solves.
Hey quick tip, just use the m layer to get an edge into the left or right side of the top when you orient the corners, then use a u perm to get the other edge to the other side
M Slices are fine on big cubes if the inner layers have strong magnets, but for some reason, my WuJi M isn’t that good. Also, you should make a Meyer Method tutorial/overview for people who already saw your Yau Tutorial, so they can understand how it’s a bit different (other than the fact that it’s for Roux), and a Hoya Method tutorial. Hoya is for CFOP (and you can also use ZZ like Colorful Pockets), and you solve 4 centers & leave the last 2 open for 1st 3 cross edges.
It's nice to see new fan of Roux method. I was using this methdo for a year but CFOP fit better to me. One thing: you are wrong about movecount in Roux. I was talking with Kian about it some time ago he said his move avg is a little bit over 50. I was comparing FAZ and Lau solves about it taking records into account. For FAZ in his 6.45 WR it was 54 and for Lau in his 7.xx it was 50.33. Not a big distance as you may see and as you said The other things to notice are chances for skips both OLL and PLL and LL skip (for roux it is CMLL and LSE skip). I dont remember numbers but these numbers are lower than in CFOP. Cant wait to see if you stay with Roux longer. :)
Says he's not a roux expert, still makes better roux videos than most other tutorials I've seen. I only know Roux, never even learned the beginner method, skipped directly to roux...but J perm is still the channel I learned most from since I can follow his stuff better. Guess he's just a better youtuber in general regardless of how good he is at this particular craft. Well, since this is more or less only beginner stuff he definitely is not gonna do a worse job than experts because he's already way beyond beginner level.
@@lumina_ They're still very long for a person with a short attention span. But yea you're right, I'm not gonna pretend like I didn't learn Roux from Kian Mansour. lol
I am going to be eight grade now. When I was in seventh grade how you started cubing was exactly like my story. I am a CFOP cuber with sub 40 and 30 sometimes and I am thinking of learning roux
after a bit of time with the roux method, i actually forgot how to solve using the beginners method. To me, Roux feels more natural, and i absolutely agree with the feel of freedom. really, if you get first/second block down, and learn to orient the edges/corners quickly, roux is very intuitive. the last four corners aren't actually hard, though. if you know sune, + the normal beginner edge permutation, you can solve every case possible (though not always as quickly). once i realized that, I absolutely loved roux. (in fact, corners are relatively intuitive too, if you know sune and edge permutation) also, using the ideas of roux, I think its possible to solve all corners first, then all edges, but I have yet to find the key to making that possible
you're thinking of a method called corners first! it's a really old method that I think redkb uses/used. after corners, you solve 3 L edges and 3 R edges, making it like roux after F2B+CMLL
great tut, I'm starting to learn the CFOP, so I'll be training for some time and when get familiar, I'll be testing the Roux, already saved the vid, thanks
Believe me i was just messing with my cube and found this technique I did everything except the last part without even knowing that was roux I was pretty sure that if i knew the algs then i would decrease my time by a LOT!! Edit: the one i did or found was just a little different just a tiny bit.
The Animation Master well he does it slowly enough so if you follow along well enough, you get the gist of what’s happening. If you don’t, just watch the video a few times without your cube, to see what’s going to happen, then watch it again following along with your cube.
hey J Perm, awesome video as always.. Do you think the Supernova MF3RS2 M is a really good alternative over the Gan Air SM? because I'm thinking about getting one.. and have you ever thought about livestreaming (like cyo)?
yeah it's my main because I like stickerless right now. I could probably do just as well on a gan air SM, maybe better if they had stickerless lol. I have thought of streaming, I don't have equipment for it though. ill try to soon!
I have a Supernova MF3RS2 M and a Gans Air SM , but I think after a few hours, it's more fun to turn the mf3rs2 m because the magnets aren't that strong
is the supernova mf3rs2 m easy to tension? cuz some ppl say that it is a bit tight out of the box.. and would you recommend any of the cosmic lubes for that cube?
my tension was perfect out of the box. it's not super fast, but I like that quality of it, so I use weight 5 and martian/one of the other cosmic lubes depending on what I'm feeling. lunar is too fast for it
I like your channel it's easy to learn ,I learn both zz and CFOP method from your channel but i can't learn rouz method so please make another vedio so that I can learn... thank you ...
This'll be interesting. I grinned my own method I came up with to get it done in less then 30 seconds. I could always search up how to do thing but that would've runnined it for me. But I've stopped for a while so this'll be fun
I tried roux a couple of weeks ago for the first time (I average around 14 with CFOP), i did like 100 solves with roux and somehow got a 17,10 single when I average like 40sec with roux
When I was switching to Roux, during the last four edges I always just thought "solve the last two cross pieces using M and U, and then you just solve the cube."
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You missed a chance to call it a rouxbiks cube tutorial
Lol Love the puns
Watch this video, ruclips.net/video/y8jXljm52hc/видео.html
semi awesomatic i read it as rouxblox HAHAHHAHA
Oof
semi awesomatic you are so old 😂😂😂
tips for people who are planning to seriously switch to roux(from someone who switched about 2 months ago):
-really, the hardest step in roux is doing the two blocks, the reason simply being how pieces go flying everywhere and as mentioned in the video lookahead is really hard. so you'll have to mess around timelessly with with the method a lot to understand how much free space you have and how you can use it to your advantage.
-if you already know coll, you can use it instead of the cmll algs. but most roux solvers would still recommend learning cmll.
-get used to the M slice. because the key to getting fast with roux is mostly being fast with the last two steps(lse and cmll) while cmll is algorithmic, LSE is all about the M slice. in fact, j Perm's solve was THAT good because of how fast he was in those two steps. his blockbuilding wasn't too good but it was sub-10 which was good enough to get a sub 15 solve.
-in roux, being colour neutral with any colour with white or yellow on top or bottom is enough. you don't have to go for all 24 cases. the best roux solvers didn't bother expanding their colour neutrality more than that.
-Example solves are the key to mastering blockbuilding.
C-AZ did you use any tutorials? And how fast is your time now?
+HBの魔方達人
I'm not the best roux solver but I understand the most important concept. I'm currently sub-30. I watched a lot of tutorials mostly on blockbuilding because it is the hardest step for me(I currently need 16 secs to solve the blocks) and i'm starting to get the handle of it by time. all I need now is lookahead. for cmll and LSE, I learned 2-look cmll and stopped there. I did a lot of training solves on LSE to understand the concept of it and I'm pretty much handling it pretty good, again all I'm missing is lookahead (although lookahead on LSE is A LOT easier since there is little space and you can see what you are looking for easily).
for someone starting, I'd recommend getting the hand of LSE asap. it is one of the most important keys to getting faster since, again, the only reason j perm's solve was sub 15 was because of his fast cmll and LSE. also, I'd recommend learning full cmll in your free time. kian has a whole google drive file that cuts them into groups(sunes, two corners, etc) and has a video showing fingertricks for all of them. and binge watch example solves because they're key to understanding the free space you have in blockbuilding and how you can use that space for advantage.
+HBの魔方達人
I'm not the best roux solver but I understand the most important concept. I'm currently sub-30. I watched a lot of tutorials mostly on blockbuilding because it is the hardest step for me(I currently need 16 secs to solve the blocks) and i'm starting to get the handle of it by time. all I need now is lookahead. for cmll and LSE, I learned 2-look cmll and stopped there. I did a lot of training solves on LSE to understand the concept of it and I'm pretty much handling it pretty good, again all I'm missing is lookahead (although lookahead on LSE is A LOT easier since there is little space and you can see what you are looking for easily).
for someone starting, I'd recommend getting the hand of LSE asap. it is one of the most important keys to getting faster since, again, the only reason j perm's solve was sub 15 was because of his fast cmll and LSE. also, I'd recommend learning full cmll in your free time. kian has a whole google drive file that cuts them into groups(sunes, two corners, etc) and has a video showing fingertricks for all of them. and binge watch example solves because they're key to understanding the free space you have in blockbuilding and how you can use that space for advantage.
What do you reccomend for someone whos new in cube solving should i start with this method ? can someone tell me ?
@@zZBluthunDZz no learn beginners method first
I'm happy to see more people making Roux tutorials! I'm a big fan of your videos by the way, your ideas are really unique and you're very good at expressing your thoughts. I haven't actually watched this video yet (power outage here right now so I'm on data on my phone haha) but I can't wait to watch it soon!
Kian Mansour you should do a video like this where you go over things in CFOP you could use in Roux to get fast (if you haven't already)
thanks! im a huge fan of your roux abilities, especially for OH. thanks for letting me use that clip of you (it's my favourite part of this video lol)
Hey J perm I use CFOP with 4 Look Last Layer but I can never get faster than a minute. My f2l is like 30 seconds! (I am not willing to learn algorithms for f2l, I use intuitive f2l)Please help. Should I switch to Roux or is this ok because it’s my first month with CFOP.
this is fine, just work on getting muscle memory for all the cases so you can execute them without thinking. cfop is great, but if you think roux might be better for you since you don't want to learn as many algs, you can try roux too. up to you, both methods are great!
I tried Roux and I am really having trouble understanding LSE.
The slogan for roux. ROUX: Where You Don’t Have to Turn Fast to get Good Times XD
Very very true
Troux
No one teaches cubing better than you (literally)
I saw your f2l tutorial and it was Way More BETTER than those 20-30 minute long ones
THANK YOU SO MUCH!! Lots of love from India
thanks! glad you liked it :)
This is a great video for me.
For someone who's been struggling with Roux for sometime.
I used to be sub-20 with CFOP then tried to give Roux a try since I love M slices and think the rotationless part was great.
For around 2 weeks of using Roux, I was troubled because I never got a sub-20 solve with it and average around 30. I watch walkthrough solves and tutorials from Kian Mansour but never really felt an improvement.
I decided to go back to CFOP and immediately after a couple of solves, I am already hitting sub-15 averages of 12 and recently Ao100.
My time with Roux improved my look ahead that much that my time decreased a lot.
I recently got a 11 second PB on CFOP but I still think Roux is my way to go so I went to give Roux method another try.
I noticed something that most Roux solvers I did used right hand for M slices and left hand for U slices, I tried to relate this to my style which was lefty M and righty U. And I think that most Roux solvers do this because their first block goes on the left and having their left hand block that part for U turns would be okay, meaning more look ahead for the second block. So I did, first block on right and got an improvement in my times.
In the end I'm getting consistent averages with this, although I'm still not able to go sub 20 with Roux, I decided to stick to this.
I am still undecided whether to give up CFOP to pursue Roux, but this video made me think that using Roux method may be worth it.
I learned COLL from this Channel, and if I continue to do more Roux, I'll just learn sune and anti sune CMLLs
Sup! I already forgot this comment exists. And, I do use Roux exclusively today. I forgot a lot of OLL algs already but I never once regretted switching.
(Although I've been on and off on cubing a lot throughout these years)
@@vlogingwithmia5944 honestly I’ve been using cfop and I struggle to hit sub 15, I average around 20 seconds right now and my look ahead could use some work. I want to hit around 12-10 average preferably, do you think switching to roux would do that?
Switching to Roux in most cases won't help you reach that goal as it will when you break that certain barrier holding you back which applies to all methods, and if you plateau at CFOP, you're also guaranteed to plateau somewhere in Roux just as I also have. So I can't really tell if it will help or not. But what I can tell is that you'll only get better solving at a method you enjoy doing. If you switch because people tell you one is superior over the other (Which isn't actually proven at this point), you're destined to hit a brick wall.
You could try roux for a week or two and see if it works for you. You're more than welcome to go back to CFOP if you find out roux is not for you.
Nice video! A couple of comments from a Rouxer:
Don't rotate during 2H FB. Don't ever rotate. The only time you should be rotating is if you've 1-looked most/all of F2B and you can see the solution is going to be more ergonomic from a different angle. Especially in a tutorial, you should aim to encourage good habits.
Lookahead isn't any harder with Roux, it's just a different type of lookahead. With CFOP, you're concentrating on things moving around in the E/y/U direction (can't think of a better word), but with Roux, it's the M/x/R direction. The edge at the back is very rarely a problem, and anyway, CFOP has edges at the back too.
That's all I have to say really, great video. Always good to see more Roux resources being created!
Louis de Mendonça o
0:22 J Perm: Does M slice with his U hand pointer finger
Roux solvers: so, you've chosen death
UPDATE: The 3rd fastest official average was achieved by an 11 year old Roux user (Sean Villanueva)...and that's just after Feliks and Max. Bruhh
An 11 year old is faster than you.... lol
@@didieosman418 how many solves do you have to delete to get that average...
@@TheGreatCooLite just quit while you have the chance
@@didieosman418 an 11 year old got literally over 12x faster than me, a 12 year old
Lmao im so bad at this
When you’ve been cubing for 3 years and only average 17 seconds BRUHH
I’m 12 too btw
I’ve been trying to learn roux for a while now, but couldn’t find a good tutorial. This is the best video by FAR I have found. Thank you!
me: gets sub 30 on CFOP
sees this video
*ITS MINE NOW*
Lmfao
RE7 flashback
Right now i'm learning CFOP advanced method your website, will take a better look at roux after that
As a 51 year old ROUXber that starting cubing one year ago this week...
Thanks a ton.
It's always nice to get another MASTER's view of performing the same process in a different manner.
You taught me a thing or two.
And it's always nice to see someone giving Kian credit where it's due. He's truly brought ROUXbing to a higher level.
LOL rouxbing. did you use cfop first or go straight to roux?
I jumped straight into cubing with ROUX after watching a video by STANDUPMATHS when he went to the 2016 UK Nationals and met someone who shortly explained part of ROUX vs CFOP....
I was instantly hooked!
And an an old fart trying to figure out how the young turds solved so fast...ROUX made that possible.
My 3x3 is 33 seconds and recently bought a 7x7 which has helped my 5x5 and 4x4 times a LOT.
Thanks for what you do and thank RUclips for the shortcuts to SLOWING the video speeds down so that I can see what you guys are doing...HA!
What time do you average?
Pb 33.36
Ao5 44.64
Ao12 46.74
Ao50 51.15
nice. Keep it up!
Very nice video. A recommendation: Don't use the RrUM EO algs. They transition horribly to the rest of LSE, and without them, you can regrip to a MU grip after CMLL while recognizing EO for all EOs, which which make that pretty mindless and fast.
Also I think rotationless first block is the way to go even for beginners. I think it's much harder to learn FB with rotations than learn to not rotate on it than to learn it rotationless from the get go (which is what I did).
thanks! I showed FB with rotations for visual purposes but probably should have done rotationless on the second example. but as u can see for the last pair in the FB second example, I was really struggling to show what's happening at the back.
I agree with the eo thing. back when I used roux I knew all the algs, but now I've forgotten the ones that have the D edges oriented lol.
Also, about that pair, XD
U2 r' U R' F or R2' F' M F' would be better.
I like Roux, it's efficient and it feels more natural to me. As always awesome video 👍
I’m really really happy that you made this video. I don’t really see roux tutorial(or intro)on RUclips and this is great! I might consider to switch to it!
Man, i really needed an amazing tutorial like this when I switched to roux last year. Funny thing is, I keep seeing roux tutorials, which is good for people who want to switch now, but I really wish I had good tutorials like this when I switched...
I saw this video, got discouraged to switch, then went back to cstimer, and guess what I found...
The scramble had a full 1st block done! I got a 4.88 with blue triple x cross lol
Scramble: (4.88) D' L D L B R F D R' F2 R2 F2 R F2 R D2 F2 R B'
roux is calling for you man ;)
Sameer Aggarwal woah really? I'm gonna try this tomorrow
King Turny, yeah, triple x cross isn't something you see everyday. Also, I'm white and yellow only so I don't do blue. I retried this scramble holing green top, white facing you, and got a 3.95...
Sameer Aggarwal that's insane honestly... What do you typically average?
Can you give solution plz???
This is very helpful. I've been watching tutorials on how to solve rubick's cube with roux method. Some of them gave me ideas but you sir explained it very well. Im looking forward to switch cfop to roux so pls sir do tutorials about algs, edge orientations, and techniques.
I won't be going super in depth, I just wanted to show the method and direct you to resources and other channels (description). I personally use the cfop method and I am not as knowledgeable about roux
Thanks j perm for making such a good video on roux. I think that you are one of the most talented cuber on youtube .
Everything was normal and then 9:33 happened.
I dont get it
I JUST GAVE THIS GUY MONEY
2:35 so nice and simple, great for beginners
Imagine Feliks-TPS and insane look-ahead with Roux :0
J Perm got 12 seconds with it, and he wasn't turning that fast at all lol
Yeah roux is SUPER efficient but I think I’ll stick to cfop
Crispy Nuggets
At least learn some basic Roux.
Trust me, your _CFOP_ will get faster by learning _Roux._ You’ll see what I mean.
@@want-diversecontent3887 I switch to roux with a 25 seconds cfop average
I came back for fun and got a new pb of 10 seconds and 18 seconds average
But roux users should also use cfop for a month or 2
@@want-diversecontent3887 I am sub 15 with CFOP
Do you think I can get down to sub-10 by switching right now?
thanks so much i got inspired with cfop by you and i wanted to step it up a notch 2 years later and i thought man i think you got everything at this point. You never disappoint❤
ME: HAPPY WITH CFOP
Even me but now it's roux
Usually that's not luck to have the correct edges in the bottom. You actually influence the edges that go down to the bottom during the solve. You can turn it into regular PLL if you want, which is quite handy. Because it's usually a Uperm. If you know it's not going to be a uperm, then you can stick with it, and do a Z or H perm, or you can do it with LSE. It doesn't have to be the same edges as the blocks, that just makes it easier, cause you don't have to AUF at the end.. But once you do it for a while, you learn that the adjacent edge takes the place of the block edge. So say you made blue and green and then used the orange and red edge cause they were down there. That is still a better solution than swapping them for the correct edges.
This video came out of nowhere lol. I already use Roux. I will watch this and see if this is accurate and efficient :)
Edit 1: 4:53 a way to teach it to beginners (because they cant tell intuitive cases) is just to solve the white center and solve the white edges with M’ U2 M
Edit 2: 5:30 you can do Rw’ F to insert that pair
Edit 3: 8:14 you can do that even in second block lol. Very handy kinda keyhole thing :)
Edit 4: 8:52 but LSE is shorter than OLL and PLL if you easily practice some lookahead and EOLR
Edit 5: but inspection is easier imo and lookahead comes with practice just like cfop
Edit 6: 9:32 its good on 4x4 and 5x5 and i think thats the limit
Overall this is a good tutorial however I like CriticalCubing’s tutorial better. Pls add me to the roux cubers in desc lol
Congrats for your sub 7 average with roux
Sub 6
U inspire a lot of cfop solvers...U help us think more... Love u J Perm...
{A disadvantage of roux is we cannot get J perms!!}
If you use two look CMLL then J perm is required for permuting.
It’s funny how this came out right when I started practicing Roux
8:15 It’s only 3 moves because E’ (or whatever E move is in the same direction as Uw) F2 Uw’. You can also do D U’ as one move in ETM.
I tried this method, it was going so well
Until more algs appeared
Quek S.C. Where? lol
zrq the cmll thing
Quek S.C. 42 isn't that much
cfop has 68 and if you really wanna be fast you need 150 for cfop and 84-100 for roux
yugi muto Everything om roux is intuitive exept for CMLL
zrq ik doesn't change the fact that fast roux users have 2 algs atleast for every case so they can skip first step of lse
Another quality video from N perm! My favourite Tuto-RUclipsr 😀
thanks, maybe I'd be N perm if I uploaded once every month. never to be found!
@@JPerm and u would be n perm if ur videos were too long, tough to understand. this isnt the case, so the name j perm is quite apt
@@JPerm n perms- mostly found in timed solves(though still very very rare)
pll skips(found during untimed solves) and almost never appears in timed solves.
im considering switching ftom cfop now!
im sub 20 on cfop btw
How does his videos just get better and better
I needed this video.
I learned CFOP method and just Cant understand other videos about roux
Edit: nvm i don't understand a word of what's said
Whats nvm
Hey quick tip, just use the m layer to get an edge into the left or right side of the top when you orient the corners, then use a u perm to get the other edge to the other side
M Slices are fine on big cubes if the inner layers have strong magnets, but for some reason, my WuJi M isn’t that good. Also, you should make a Meyer Method tutorial/overview for people who already saw your Yau Tutorial, so they can understand how it’s a bit different (other than the fact that it’s for Roux), and a Hoya Method tutorial. Hoya is for CFOP (and you can also use ZZ like Colorful Pockets), and you solve 4 centers & leave the last 2 open for 1st 3 cross edges.
It's nice to see new fan of Roux method. I was using this methdo for a year but CFOP fit better to me. One thing: you are wrong about movecount in Roux. I was talking with Kian about it some time ago he said his move avg is a little bit over 50. I was comparing FAZ and Lau solves about it taking records into account. For FAZ in his 6.45 WR it was 54 and for Lau in his 7.xx it was 50.33. Not a big distance as you may see and as you said
The other things to notice are chances for skips both OLL and PLL and LL skip (for roux it is CMLL and LSE skip). I dont remember numbers but these numbers are lower than in CFOP.
Cant wait to see if you stay with Roux longer. :)
Jperm: Ok so here is my shuffle
Me not having the same cube after using said shuffle. -.•
Dude same D and B messes me up
J perm, you are great and you really opened my eye with this video. Thanks!
The block building is pretty cool when you use CFOP
Says he's not a roux expert, still makes better roux videos than most other tutorials I've seen. I only know Roux, never even learned the beginner method, skipped directly to roux...but J perm is still the channel I learned most from since I can follow his stuff better. Guess he's just a better youtuber in general regardless of how good he is at this particular craft. Well, since this is more or less only beginner stuff he definitely is not gonna do a worse job than experts because he's already way beyond beginner level.
Kian Mansour's roux tutorials are better than J Perm's
@@lumina_ They're still very long for a person with a short attention span. But yea you're right, I'm not gonna pretend like I didn't learn Roux from Kian Mansour. lol
What about a ZZ tutorial, I feel if people are going to switch from CFOP, they might aswell have more choices
I am going to be eight grade now.
When I was in seventh grade how you started cubing was exactly like my story.
I am a CFOP cuber with sub 40 and 30 sometimes and I am thinking of learning roux
Love ya J Perm! ❤️❤️❤️
hey why did you subscribe to me?
powercuber I dunno. I was just being random.
hi pyra cuber i subbed to ur channel, i have a small channel canyou check it out?
Taxi Cuber Thanks for subbing
Pyraminx Cuber ha! Gauyyy
0 dislike,this man is a legend
At the end you should have said "I hope you learned something Roux" xD
after a bit of time with the roux method, i actually forgot how to solve using the beginners method. To me, Roux feels more natural, and i absolutely agree with the feel of freedom.
really, if you get first/second block down, and learn to orient the edges/corners quickly, roux is very intuitive. the last four corners aren't actually hard, though. if you know sune, + the normal beginner edge permutation, you can solve every case possible (though not always as quickly). once i realized that, I absolutely loved roux. (in fact, corners are relatively intuitive too, if you know sune and edge permutation)
also, using the ideas of roux, I think its possible to solve all corners first, then all edges, but I have yet to find the key to making that possible
you're thinking of a method called corners first! it's a really old method that I think redkb uses/used. after corners, you solve 3 L edges and 3 R edges, making it like roux after F2B+CMLL
roux is better though since CF only solves 1 piece at once after the corners stage.
whoa! roux?
Also, your name can be applied to both CFOP and Roux!
Method neutral name!
great tut, I'm starting to learn the CFOP, so I'll be training for some time and when get familiar, I'll be testing the Roux, already saved the vid, thanks
The CFOP is made of cross and 6 next steps...but each step is much longer
Where roux is made of more step than CFOP but all the steps r short.....
@electric_hiccup 707 cross then 4 f2l 1 OLL and 1 PLL
@electric_hiccup 707 its 4 steps
@electric_hiccup 707 it is 4 steps actually
I am also a big fan of you and your cube solving problems this is useful for me to solve a cube very fast
Who came back because of the ZZ tutorial
Eyy i was waiting for this, great to see more roux stuff :D
Bit of an unrelated question, but do you know Tao Yu? He's not only fast with Roux, but, well, basically any method 😁
I've seen his sub 10 with 10 methods video long ago, it's super inspiring
Tao's awesome haha
He knows full ZBLL too, he's amazing
You mean ZB. He knows ZBLS and ZBLL for a total of 799 algs. I'm headed down that road myself, unless I keep getting faster with Petrus
I love roux! my PB is 9.08 and I've never really used cfop
Believe me i was just messing with my cube and found this technique
I did everything except the last part without even knowing that was roux
I was pretty sure that if i knew the algs then i would decrease my time by a LOT!!
Edit: the one i did or found was just a little different just a tiny bit.
I plan on learning Roux, so this'll come in handy.
Can you explain the scenarios instead of just saying
Do this, do that, that goes there. This goes here.
I think I don't need to say anything to that... Just listen: 0:20-0:31
The Animation Master well he does it slowly enough so if you follow along well enough, you get the gist of what’s happening. If you don’t, just watch the video a few times without your cube, to see what’s going to happen, then watch it again following along with your cube.
Thankyou J perm, if it weren't for this video I would probably have quit cubing by now.
So this is how it feels for a new cuber when you try to explain cfop...
Thanks, a really useful video. I’ve been thinking of giving Roux a go 🙂
Hmm...
I thought you ditched Roux, because you literally have an entire video based on that spesiffic topic.
he never said he was switching...
OH MY GOD THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE TUTORIAL! I have been waiting to switch to this method for years but no good CFOP user oriented tutorials existed.
is this the most advanced version of roux? or is there more advanced methods of roux
example: lbl->cfop
there are extra algs and tricks (kind of like cfop has ZBLL/OLLCP). but for the method structure, this is the most advanced.
J Perm ok thanks!
There are roux "sub sets" like eolr, pinkie pie and tcmll. Everyone uses full cmll and most of the people sub 12 know eolr
Awesome Factor not really critical Cubing is sub 9 and he doesn't know eolr and he even has the uwr for lse
I have no plans on switching to roux but I'm quite amazed by it, I'm considering whether I should learn it even tho I'm not going to switch
yeah but I want 100 ROUX.
no 100 roux
Go to comedy club kid..
@@aurplyfox9620 i know
Finally a Roux video!!!
Free R O U X, yes i just came to this video to comment this.
stoopid albart
finally! roux is being recognized for it being a great method! but
WHERE IS ZZ?
Devon Biernacki zz isnt great as roux or cfop
Please make a full tutorial with 2 look and algorithms
As a CFOP solver, this blew my mind.
for the first example could you have just done an M or M' to orient the edges?
oops I forgot to mention, white/yellow center must be on the top
Great video, though!
hey J Perm, awesome video as always.. Do you think the Supernova MF3RS2 M is a really good alternative over the Gan Air SM? because I'm thinking about getting one.. and have you ever thought about livestreaming (like cyo)?
yeah it's my main because I like stickerless right now. I could probably do just as well on a gan air SM, maybe better if they had stickerless lol. I have thought of streaming, I don't have equipment for it though. ill try to soon!
I have a Supernova MF3RS2 M and a Gans Air SM , but I think after a few hours, it's more fun to turn the mf3rs2 m because the magnets aren't that strong
is the supernova mf3rs2 m easy to tension? cuz some ppl say that it is a bit tight out of the box.. and would you recommend any of the cosmic lubes for that cube?
my tension was perfect out of the box. it's not super fast, but I like that quality of it, so I use weight 5 and martian/one of the other cosmic lubes depending on what I'm feeling. lunar is too fast for it
I'm getting brain damage switching to roux
Me too xd
YESSS. All the other tutorials were kinda (really) confusing, This helped clear them up.
Could I have some R O U X please
ok flamingo fan
*su tart*
*R O U X* *EARTHWORM SALLY*
su tart is BIG ROUX
Congratulations for 50k subscriber
The beginning is already complicated
Yayy! I also switched to Roux 8 months ago.
2:30 is R U R’ U’ R’ F R F’
1 million views is gonna boom
I like your channel it's easy to learn ,I learn both zz and CFOP method from your channel but i can't learn rouz method so please make another vedio so that I can learn... thank you ...
Your video is very good for me to pratice this method,thank you ^^
This'll be interesting.
I grinned my own method I came up with to get it done in less then 30 seconds. I could always search up how to do thing but that would've runnined it for me.
But I've stopped for a while so this'll be fun
Yay thanks so much my new main method for 3x3
aswm vid j perm you are just realy gud at this
I tried roux a couple of weeks ago for the first time (I average around 14 with CFOP), i did like 100 solves with roux and somehow got a 17,10 single when I average like 40sec with roux
THANK YOU J PERM!!! I WISH I COULD SUB TO YOU INFINITE TIMES!
CFOP=Algorithms + Recognition--> fast
ROUX = fewer moves + learn diffrents ways and cases --> fast
I like ROUX but i dont use this method because i want to memorize ALGS. in CFOP in your vids. but your vid. is GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Ok today i will teach you how to solve a rubik's cube".
""Solves the cube in 6 seconds"".
"This is how we solve a cube".
Love you dude
Keep up the good videos
Make a cube collection video and a small overview of each one
6:45 Thanks a lot! I used to get both in the bottom, align the top, and then do M2.
I switched and it was soooo worth it. For me after a month I was sub 18 and I used cfop for 7 month to get sub 20.
When I was switching to Roux, during the last four edges I always just thought "solve the last two cross pieces using M and U, and then you just solve the cube."
oh no LOL inefficient cfop
Gj on 50k :)
Awesome video. Keep up the good work
Nice One. BTW I am also a Roux user for the past 2 months