The BEST Method You’ve NEVER Heard of (APB)

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  • @Sanseru2702
    @Sanseru2702 5 месяцев назад +25

    We will soon have a solving method like "Identify which one of the 43,252,003,274,489,856,000 scrambles you have, and use the corresponding algorithm (20 steps at most)".

    • @JoMama-np3og
      @JoMama-np3og 26 дней назад

      Aka one look

    • @user-lq2gn6qn1s
      @user-lq2gn6qn1s 7 дней назад

      There's a way faster method (5 style )also could someone explain some othe advanced bld methods like zbld or ftft

  • @nathanaelmorgan8604
    @nathanaelmorgan8604 10 месяцев назад +262

    I think this actually has potential, the main thing holding it back is the lack of a clear progression from beginner to advanced but I could see this really taking off in a few years. I'm definitely going to learn it.

    • @paper2222
      @paper2222 10 месяцев назад +12

      it's like that method where you must already have previous knowledge of cubing in order to learn the method

    • @rujon288
      @rujon288 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@paper2222 but it is the natural progression of advanced CFOP tymon as an example moving towards xx cross and ZBLL and doing EO mid F2L very similar to Petrus/APB

    • @bruce4139
      @bruce4139 10 месяцев назад

      It also seems like it would be those things with a super steep learning curve but once you learn it your progression will be bigger than ever

    • @AttackOnTyler
      @AttackOnTyler 10 месяцев назад

      ​@rujon288 bruh, you just wrote a bunch of letters. How would you go from cross on the 1st layer, 1st layer corners, 2nd layer, 3rd layer cross, corners fixed and then rotated to learning the beginning of what you said?

    • @paper2222
      @paper2222 10 месяцев назад

      @@AttackOnTyler i think that's on you for not knowing cfop yet
      "2nd layer" is not a thing in advanced cfop

  • @TheBookDoctor
    @TheBookDoctor 10 месяцев назад +83

    This is very interesting. As an older cuber whose fingers just don't go as fast, this is appealing as efficiency is a good way for me to improve. A more efficient path through the solve with minimal new algs to learn (i.e. just the EO algs) is very enticing. I'd love to see a tutorial video or series.

    • @chrisr6950
      @chrisr6950 10 месяцев назад

      learning 700 algs isnt efficient

    • @yclee-jy4xn
      @yclee-jy4xn 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@chrisr6950huh? it is? oh nvm I think I get what you misunderstood.
      he meant that his solve can become more (move) efficient. which means less moves and less moves mean less turns and less turns means a lower time.

    • @Silverback947
      @Silverback947 10 месяцев назад +6

      I'm an older cuber too. I would consider myself pretty experienced, but slow. I consistently average sub 5.
      Sub 5 TPS that is.
      In my 10+ years cubing journey I've looked into all major methods, including ZZ , Petrus and Roux, but never really switched from cfop. I started to learn coll and wv, but never completed them. This is mainly because the cases come up too rarely.
      APB seems to be the perfect method for me. With my low TPS, but good understanding of the cube, I might improve beyond what was doable for me before. And I might finally learn wv and coll.
      Thanks for sharing. And keep the tutorials flowing. Make one for the 11 EO-cases.

    • @nahometesfay1112
      @nahometesfay1112 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@chrisr6950That's the most advanced version

  • @archiehandler1292
    @archiehandler1292 10 месяцев назад +580

    as the 3x3 world record holder, I can say with certainty that this video is true

    • @rax1899
      @rax1899 10 месяцев назад +37

      wow rlly omg that’s so cool, 你会说中文吗?

    • @archiehandler1292
      @archiehandler1292 10 месяцев назад +69

      thank you I worked really hard to get there and it means a lot to see people recognise me :)

    • @tperm99
      @tperm99 10 месяцев назад +27

      oh m gee its max park

    • @raymok5644
      @raymok5644 10 месяцев назад +14

      @@archiehandler1292Bro Max Park holds the world record

    • @archiehandler1292
      @archiehandler1292 10 месяцев назад +77

      this is a common misconception so i don’t blame you for making this mistake

  • @danielstoica647
    @danielstoica647 10 месяцев назад +1

    Bro your chanel is extremly underrated, you put so much effort in your videos and they are actually really good videos, big respect👍👍👍

    • @LiamHighducheck
      @LiamHighducheck  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you! I’m glad you like them

  • @curiousNic
    @curiousNic 10 месяцев назад +8

    Sounds cool, can't hurt to give the BEST method a try. Plus I have time to learn a few algs during the summer.

  • @_wetmath_
    @_wetmath_ 9 месяцев назад +13

    i didn't want to learn zz or petrus because it seemed too different from cfop and layer by layer. but this method seems fun, has potential to be really fast, and combines parts of different solving methods all into one. when i have time, i'll definitely try learning this! your video really convinced me.

    • @shahar78985
      @shahar78985 6 месяцев назад +3

      Cfop is faster its sadly not worth it to learn apb

  • @rebucato3142
    @rebucato3142 10 месяцев назад +16

    I've been messing around with the method and LXS is such a fun step to do. I don't know the algorithms, but there are so many times when I just cancel into an F2L case while inserting the edge, which is super satisfying. The beginner EO algs are also pretty interesting, and you could kind of think about them intuitively if you borrow some ideas from Roux and ZZ EO. I think this is a pretty good method, and I hope there are more people trying to get faster with this method and discover its full potential.

  • @amirPenton
    @amirPenton 10 месяцев назад +18

    Awesome video and it’s a very cool method. Highly algorithmic methods are just not for me, but for someone with the time & dedication to learn the algs this seems really worthwhile & a very cool method. Thanks for sharing

  • @AmbisinisterSSBM
    @AmbisinisterSSBM 5 месяцев назад

    super cool video, well structured and interesting. Hope someone takes this method and runs with it

  • @heathero8980
    @heathero8980 10 месяцев назад +15

    Very interesting! Though I do feel like seven hundred something Algs is a crazy amount, if you put in the work and mastered this technique they’d be getting some insane times!

  • @Xzy_158
    @Xzy_158 10 месяцев назад +2

    This sounds like a slightly altered, more algorithm oriented version of petrus. I can see this being popular but it seems intimidating to learn with the large algorithm sets. Will definitely give this a shot, thanks for the vid

  • @user-ed4fv9nd3b
    @user-ed4fv9nd3b 9 месяцев назад +8

    To increase your TPS, make sure you're using the new cover sheet.

    • @jroot1279
      @jroot1279 8 месяцев назад +1

      Sounds like somebody’s got a case of the mundays.

  • @janmagtoast
    @janmagtoast 10 месяцев назад +1

    Last layer can still be solved with coll and really fast edge pll cases which is pretty nice and only 50-ish algs

  • @BalthazarMaignan
    @BalthazarMaignan 10 месяцев назад

    I will definitly look into this method, this seems very good 😎

  • @Bmxmusikian
    @Bmxmusikian 9 месяцев назад

    JEEEZUS 😂, im on my 2nd week n got down to 1:32, thought I was doing well so went on youtube to look at how to get quicker, had no idea how advanced it could get!

  • @pessimistic5579
    @pessimistic5579 8 месяцев назад +1

    as a cfop user who averages around 25 seconds, im going to give this a shot. if i can match my times with the beginner or an intermediate variant, i might go for it

  • @willlagergaming8089
    @willlagergaming8089 10 месяцев назад +2

    Great video. Apb user right here, been using it for 6 months

    • @LiamHighducheck
      @LiamHighducheck  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you! Good luck with your future APB endeavours

  • @Stab.a_Saurus
    @Stab.a_Saurus 5 месяцев назад

    been cubing a while but then i just stopped some day, this vid has inspired me to keep going

  • @wolfonic
    @wolfonic 10 месяцев назад +22

    Wow! This method seems like it has a lot of potential. However, I'm refraining from learning it (Partly because it has so few resources and mainly because of the obvious difficulty- I mean, 700 algs, I've just barely learned full OLL and advanced F2L.) I'm glad you've made a video on it, though; You've exposed the method to many more people, and it truly does seem like it could become mainstream in the future. I think that you should make a more in-depth tutorial, as you suggested! It's always best for the cubing community to keep innovating and changing. (But are there any noticeable flaws to the method- or in other words, aspects or benefits that other methods have that APB doesn't? Maybe you could mention those if you made another video.)
    I'd also like to say that this video's quality is immaculate for under 1K subs! I was shocked when I saw your sub count. You did a great job on this, I'm looking forward to another video (and I'm sure other people are too.)

    • @LiamHighducheck
      @LiamHighducheck  10 месяцев назад +7

      Thank you so much! Fear not for I’m already working on the beginner tutorial. There are of course some flaws with the method but I believe they can be fixed. For example one problem is alg recognition, especially ZBLL but we have someone who created an alternate ZBLL recognition system which is easier to do ZBLL prediction with. Although it’s obviously quite hard to test this stuff when no one’s at the level where it becomes necessary yet.

    • @OfficerDonut0
      @OfficerDonut0 5 месяцев назад +1

      It is crazy to the of the possibility’s though because since it’s so alg based and good move turning it could make people like max park turn 16+ tps and get a 3 second avrg

  • @disaus
    @disaus 9 месяцев назад +2

    3:36 actually if you can just do the R move before the algorith to bring the pair on top the created pair will allways end up in 2 locations.
    That reduces the number of cases.

  • @thetwistedcube
    @thetwistedcube 10 месяцев назад

    Very high quality video! For this i subscribed!😃But I will probably stick with cfop.

  • @PureRockerHK
    @PureRockerHK 10 месяцев назад +10

    In some ways, I feel like APB is quite similar to Mehta in its heay reliance on algs. In the future, I can think of one possiblity is that we might change and adjust more to heavy algs set, the only thing left to improve is how we should develop more beginner-friendly approaches for new solvers and most importantly the transition from basic LBL method to advanced methods like the aforementioned example, or from CFOP and Roux to those methods. I feel like in some way this method doesn't have a very good look ahead compare to CFOP because of the blind spots at the first step and doing it like Roux maybe is the only optimal way to do so. The only thing I would like to point out is the look ahead aspect since you have already covered the ergonomics and move counts. It is really nice to see some small groups this community who pioneer research to construct new and possibly better methods to replace and improve CFOP. I will start trying this method soon.

    • @rujon288
      @rujon288 10 месяцев назад

      There are no blind spots in any parts of apb if you plan 2x2x3 in inspection which you really should if you are looking to seriously do APB

    • @LiamHighducheck
      @LiamHighducheck  10 месяцев назад +4

      Thank you! It’s funny you mention Mehta because APB was originally designed to be an objectively better version of Mehta-TDR and it was proven to be better in almost every aspect (I believe there is a forums post which compares 2x2x3 systems you can check out) which lead a lot of people who were learning Mehta (myself included) to drop it and switch to APB.
      The lookahead isn’t really a problem in the first steps because planning 2x2x3 is more than doable, it’s more so in the later step with alg lookahead which can become difficult and some new prediction methods may need to be developed (particularly the LXS to ZBLL transition)

    • @PureRockerHK
      @PureRockerHK 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@LiamHighducheck Thank you for your respond, i can't believe this has been designed to be better than Mehta lol.

    • @rujon288
      @rujon288 10 месяцев назад

      @@PureRockerHK ye the original mehta method promo vid actually links APB as the methods successor in the des.

    • @PureRockerHK
      @PureRockerHK 10 месяцев назад

      @@rujon288 no wonder why they are so similar in certain ways XD

  • @pro.cuber_0
    @pro.cuber_0 10 месяцев назад +1

    Dude... nice editing and background music

  • @KefashWhite
    @KefashWhite 9 месяцев назад +1

    Just lean to solve a 3x3 cube two days ago. Now I feel it is going to take me 10 years to become even half as good as what I just watched.

  • @bruce4139
    @bruce4139 10 месяцев назад

    Ngl when I saw this video thought it was a jperm one, glad to see we have someone new in the mix, I'm kinda wanting to come back to cubing as well as learn this, I'm curious to how popular this could become as well

  • @The4gotNdeath
    @The4gotNdeath 10 месяцев назад +1

    As someone who has never learned anything more advanced than the beginner method, not sure how the yt alg placed this in my feed. I was impressed nonetheless.

  • @rujon288
    @rujon288 10 месяцев назад +7

    I already knew about and love APB and plan to switch to it when i finally finish ZB because there's no point switching before full ZB

    • @OneDerscoreOneder
      @OneDerscoreOneder 10 месяцев назад +1

      Before full zbll you mean right?

    • @milomaher1582
      @milomaher1582 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@OneDerscoreOnederZBLL is part of the ZB method, along with ZBLS which is a way to solve last slot and edge orientation at the same time

    • @OneDerscoreOneder
      @OneDerscoreOneder 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@milomaher1582 yeah... I know.
      I know all of zbll and half of zbls, you don't need to explain them to me. I said that because there's no reason to learn zbls (the other part of zb) before learning APB since APB doesn't use zbls. Hence why I was questioning why he would need to finish learning all of zb before APB since the zbls part of zb isn't useful for APB.

    • @willlagergaming8089
      @willlagergaming8089 10 месяцев назад +1

      Full zbll is not necessary. So just learn eopair and LXS

    • @rujon288
      @rujon288 10 месяцев назад

      @@OneDerscoreOneder Ye i call ZBLS EOLS so i can just call ZBLL ZB so ye i meant just ZBLL

  • @alika3651
    @alika3651 10 месяцев назад

    this sounds so promising ,makes me wanna pick up the 3x3 once again.

  • @CubingMania
    @CubingMania 10 месяцев назад

    i might learn intuitive apb so that i know it. idk if ill switch, but i think that this is a great video.

  • @haydenlesser9725
    @haydenlesser9725 10 месяцев назад +1

    I’m not sure this is the best method, but I’m very interested in learning a completely new thing and I think it would be interesting to be along for the journey of this

  • @BenTheCuber
    @BenTheCuber 10 месяцев назад

    Amazing video!!

  • @Andlekin
    @Andlekin 9 месяцев назад +2

    I know Summoning Salt has a great choice in music, but there are a lot of synth lofi tracks to choose from.

  • @Miner13-rk8qx
    @Miner13-rk8qx 7 месяцев назад

    at first i thought it was click bate. I will learn it. thanks!

  • @sacheinsaravanakumar8848
    @sacheinsaravanakumar8848 10 месяцев назад

    This method is so interesting!!

  • @squirrelcubed31415
    @squirrelcubed31415 10 месяцев назад +2

    I will potentially switch, I do quite well with algs

  • @cyrildubois1815
    @cyrildubois1815 Месяц назад

    For cfop it also 50 coups. If you learn Xcross and neutral face, 7-9 can make a pair. Also you made two pairs ( F2L) and it's like 10-12 moov. After you learn winter and summer variation, it's like 7-9 moov, OLL easy case, 8-9 moov and pll 13-14
    It's 50 but without learn 1000 alg

    • @LiamHighducheck
      @LiamHighducheck  Месяц назад

      Bro where did you pull those numbers from. Also you can’t use summer and winter variation every solve cause they require EO to be done and if you do use them you don’t also do OLL the same solve cause the whole point of summer and winter variation is that it skips OLL.
      F2L is up for debate in terms of movecount but if you just take Yiheng’s average movecount for F2L in his reconstructed ao100 it’s 32.5 moves. Then you forgot about AUF while calculating OLL and PLL so OLL is actually about 10+0.75 and PLL is 13.5+1.5 so the total for CFOP ends up being 58.25 moves on average. Even taking Kian Mansour’s theoretical estimate of perfect CFOP where he estimates F2L as low as 29 moves (8 move Xcross+7 moves per pair) that still only gets you to about 55 moves on average.

    • @cyrildubois1815
      @cyrildubois1815 Месяц назад

      @@LiamHighducheck yeah but some alg (7 only) can help you. (W variation or summer variation + one of then ) and you had done the yellow face

    • @LiamHighducheck
      @LiamHighducheck  Месяц назад

      @@cyrildubois1815 I don’t think you know what winter and summer variation are. Winter variation is a set of 27 algs that inserts a built pair into your last slot and solves OLL when and only when you have all the edges oriented. Summer variation also has 27 algs and does the same thing but with a split pair.
      I have a theory that what you actually mean by winter and summer variation is ZBLS (302 algs) or rather it’s simpler version, VHLS (32 algs) which inserts either a built or split pair while orienting the edges. This would also make sense as you’re saying there are 7 algs you can do after that step which fits with OCLL (OLL with edges oriented (has 7 algs)).
      So the overall method I think you’re talking about is F2L-1 > set up pair > VHLS > OCLL > PLL
      Which using perfect F2L numbers gives a movecount of 22 + ~4 + 9.5 + (7.9 + 0.75) + (13.5+1.5) = 59.15 which is actually worse than standard CFOP. I think this must also be what you meant because in your original comment you said OLL was 8-9 which fits with OCLL. Either way still not close to 50 moves.

  • @fallofshadows2209
    @fallofshadows2209 5 месяцев назад

    As a Petrus main, this sounds like torture. But then again, I don’t like learning algs haha.
    Your comment about people who lack finger tricks hit me though. My turning style hasn’t evolved since 2007, and my wrists hate me for me 😂

  • @TriCubing
    @TriCubing 10 месяцев назад +11

    cool method! thinking of trying it but i think i’ll just use oll pll for last layer

    • @ugwuanyicollins6136
      @ugwuanyicollins6136 10 месяцев назад

      CDRLL and L5EP is better

    • @ugwuanyicollins6136
      @ugwuanyicollins6136 10 месяцев назад

      APB CDRLL

    • @ugwuanyicollins6136
      @ugwuanyicollins6136 10 месяцев назад

      After EOpair,
      you solve the front F2L pair (DFR+FR)
      You solve the last layer with CDRLL (42 algs)
      Then solve the last 5 edges with L5EP (16 algs)

    • @ugwuanyicollins6136
      @ugwuanyicollins6136 10 месяцев назад +1

      Solving the last layer with OLL and PLL defeats the purpose of the method.

    • @Drizzz32
      @Drizzz32 10 месяцев назад

      @@ugwuanyicollins6136its easier 😂

  • @archiehandler1292
    @archiehandler1292 10 месяцев назад

    I’m already in the 95th percentile for viewers subscribing let’s goo barely even had to try

  • @Anthony_Jiang
    @Anthony_Jiang 10 месяцев назад

    This is actually really cool haha might experiment lol

  • @randomcuber4243
    @randomcuber4243 10 месяцев назад

    When i saw the thumbnail i thought it was j perms video lol. Btw great vid!

  • @yaboisbunker7744
    @yaboisbunker7744 10 месяцев назад +9

    Good video and very persuasive, but I think I'll stick with cfop, because I'm bad at doing the 2x2x3 and Eo seems difficult. These are also the same reasons why I don't use roux

  • @speedgleb9389
    @speedgleb9389 10 месяцев назад +1

    There are so few tutorials on this method but I really want to learn it.

  • @disaus
    @disaus 10 месяцев назад +1

    Finally someone who uses Batch solver instead of cube explorer

  • @abdelilhmanflores
    @abdelilhmanflores 5 месяцев назад

    I’ve been solving CFOP since I was 15. I’m now 19. This honestly looks like a lot of fun and I really want to work on efficiency. Also what cube are you using in this vid? It has a very nice sound.

  • @salomille4709
    @salomille4709 10 месяцев назад +1

    was about to send this to you then saw you posted it. shocked.

    • @LiamHighducheck
      @LiamHighducheck  10 месяцев назад

      No shot RUclips raw recommended you an advanced underground method overview

  • @omarbarbar1078
    @omarbarbar1078 10 месяцев назад +3

    As a GD player i can confirm abp is hard to memorize

    • @fantasticfuze646
      @fantasticfuze646 10 месяцев назад +1

      Good one

    • @rujon288
      @rujon288 10 месяцев назад +1

      It’s ok it’s not may so no compulsory maymory levels for me

    • @molybd3num823
      @molybd3num823 9 месяцев назад

      last wave flashbacks

  • @ErenMichelet
    @ErenMichelet 10 месяцев назад +3

    As a roux solver I’m curious about the planning part of this method? For roux planning First Block + DR consistently is something recommended for people in the sub-12 to sub-10 range, so adding another piece seems really difficult, and I feel like the probably slightly wonky finger tricks don’t help?
    Also, is the beginner method version of this any different than just doing eo then petrus? Is there a meaningful difference between making the pair before or after eo?
    Overall it looks cool, and seems around equal to CFOP and Roux. Subjectively is there difference in fun/style you see in this method that would make you recommend it? The differences in style between CFOP and Roux are obvious, but this seems like CFOP for someone who loves algs, which I can see being popular in ZMS server lol. I don’t mean this as an insult btw, but just how does the solve feel to do?

    • @LiamHighducheck
      @LiamHighducheck  10 месяцев назад +4

      It’s hard to say since I came into APB with a pretty strong foundation in CFOP and my inspection planning was pretty good. I don’t think planning DFDB will be too difficult for solvers around the sub 10 area but once again it’s hard to say since the method is quite new and we don’t have a lot of users. Even I didn’t have a background in Roux so my FB leaves much to be desired. Another thing to note is that FB>DFDB is only one way to solve the 223 and it’s possible to find some more efficient solutions that partially combine the steps, so it’s not strictly FB>DFDB which can make planning the entire 223 in inspection easier.
      I would like to do some analysis on DFDB finger tricks, including perhaps making some sort of intuitive way you can solve every case within 1 move of optimal. The other solution is just algs which is less elegant (and will probably only be learnt by the most dedicated individuals) but it gets the job done while guaranteeing the best ergonomics/fingertricks.
      In the beginner version solving the pair does make a large impact. The difference between recognising EO with 2 F2L edges vs 1 F2L edge is large and only having 1 F2L edge means it can be tracked and therefore EO recognition becomes instant. Also making the pair in the beginner method makes sense for transitioning into full APB.
      In terms of fun/style I can say it’s very fun to use. Since the entire method is optimised algs after the first few steps, you get some really satisfying solutions because of how good the ergonomics are, particularly in LXS which is an amazing alg set.
      In most methods with large semi-intuitive steps (like F2L or SB that are partially supported by algs) it usually takes a solver a lot of practice with the method to start finding the speed optimal solution and sometimes even the most advanced solvers will miss something good, but having alg steps means a beginner and the most advanced solver will be doing the same most ergonomic solution.

  • @krishnastalent6561
    @krishnastalent6561 10 месяцев назад +1

    keep it up I want to see more

  • @zachchristiansen
    @zachchristiansen 10 месяцев назад +1

    This is really cool.

  • @cwcoc170
    @cwcoc170 10 месяцев назад

    I am imterested, but I would need more input to decide, if this really makes sense. So I would love, if you make more vids about this method

  • @FlummoxTheMagnificent
    @FlummoxTheMagnificent 6 месяцев назад +1

    You use the same alg generator as me lol. I’m also working on a method that should rival this (just as algorithmic but lower movecount and less than 200 algs)

  • @user-pn5kk3pn1j
    @user-pn5kk3pn1j Месяц назад

    Sir thank u so much

  • @trytobestme7545
    @trytobestme7545 10 месяцев назад

    That song at the end went way too hard on God

  • @davidchapper6120
    @davidchapper6120 7 месяцев назад

    Hey @LiamHighducheck , great video, inspired me to try to create my own method. What is the algorithm analysis software mentioned at 6:22? Thanks in advance!

    • @LiamHighducheck
      @LiamHighducheck  7 месяцев назад +1

      It’s called Batch Solver, it’s made by Trangium and Ryan Hudgens has a tutorial for it. It’s very useful

    • @davidchapper6120
      @davidchapper6120 6 месяцев назад

      @@LiamHighducheck thank youu ❤️

  • @michaelpetrasek5693
    @michaelpetrasek5693 10 месяцев назад

    I need to learn this

  • @swiftcubing
    @swiftcubing 10 месяцев назад

    woah that's so cool and also great video

  • @iskandarrakhimshaikhov2121
    @iskandarrakhimshaikhov2121 15 дней назад +2

    The mext method: 1-look 3 layers☠️

  • @DavidvanDeijk
    @DavidvanDeijk 10 месяцев назад

    Subscribed.

  • @itsissun
    @itsissun 10 месяцев назад +2

    omg a video finally yay

  • @PiercingSight
    @PiercingSight 10 месяцев назад +3

    I only have 5 algs memorized, and that's for the last layer, lol.
    Even doing 20-30 algs would already be a stretch for me.

    • @ekhau1977
      @ekhau1977 4 месяца назад

      Just less than 30 algs for last layer, and another 12 for 2x2 Ortega method, easy peasy lemon squeezy 🎉

  • @stevejackson2471
    @stevejackson2471 9 месяцев назад

    What song did you use in the beginning?

  • @user-tk6ql7vm7p
    @user-tk6ql7vm7p 10 месяцев назад +1

    Good video❤

  • @BOBAhampter
    @BOBAhampter 10 месяцев назад

    very good method very intersting

  • @goldenwarrior1186
    @goldenwarrior1186 10 месяцев назад +2

    I like how the method is literally called “a PB”

  • @mabel722
    @mabel722 10 месяцев назад

    this makes me wanna watch summoningsalt

  • @SavciSV
    @SavciSV 10 месяцев назад

    I was holding the cube before video starting and when it started i found u holding it from the same position

  • @disaus
    @disaus 9 месяцев назад

    Here before APB method becomes very popular

  • @stevefromminecraft2466
    @stevefromminecraft2466 10 месяцев назад

    What is the alg if all edges are good and your pair is not inserted yet? i somehow cannot find it in the EOPair Doc

    • @LiamHighducheck
      @LiamHighducheck  10 месяцев назад

      There are 4 sets of EOPair, Oriented Pair U, Oriented Pair R, Misoriented Pair U, Misoriented Pair R. The 2 sets where all edges can be oriented are Oriented Pair U and R, and the algs for both of those will just be U’ R and R2 respectively.

  • @InfinityCuberRS3M
    @InfinityCuberRS3M 10 месяцев назад +5

    please make tutorial, this might not be great for me for 2h, but for OH i am willing to look into this

    • @nathanaelmorgan8604
      @nathanaelmorgan8604 10 месяцев назад +3

      Roux is best for OH, there's no way you're going to learn to optimize all those algs for OH

    • @yaboisbunker7744
      @yaboisbunker7744 10 месяцев назад

      Wouldn't this be pretty difficult for OH because you have to do algorithms that use middle slices?

    • @lmcubing
      @lmcubing 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@yaboisbunker7744you use the table to do M moves, just look at good roux OH solvers

  • @rakib_hoque
    @rakib_hoque 10 месяцев назад

    I like to call APB "absolute personal best" like every time you do a solve you're gonna get your pb 😊

  • @janaki3829
    @janaki3829 10 месяцев назад +4

    ZB's average movecount is 45.43, and its alg count is 772
    I don't trust myself to analyze too much beyond that, but I think it's worth throwing out there

    • @ugwuanyicollins6136
      @ugwuanyicollins6136 10 месяцев назад +2

      ZBLS is bad

    • @ugwuanyicollins6136
      @ugwuanyicollins6136 10 месяцев назад +2

      CFOP with ZBLL every solve is called ZB and orients the edges during LS in a step called ZBLS. ZBLS is not a very good step, not to mention people often forget it has to be done from more than just the FR slot. APB will also offer more consistency. Due to being mostly algs, you’re always going to be doing the best solution for every case and each of those solutions will be algorithms that you have practiced and drilled to provide high tps.
      Credit: LIAM

    • @rujon288
      @rujon288 10 месяцев назад

      @@ugwuanyicollins6136absolutely. I hate FR dependant methods just cuz doing wide d in between Steps is the worst for lookahead

    • @LiamHighducheck
      @LiamHighducheck  10 месяцев назад +2

      Certainly a worthwhile comparison as at first glance the methods seem similar.
      A lot of stuff has already been mentioned about ZBLS and its flaws but I’d also like to point out something about that movecount and why you should be careful taking the wiki at face value. That 45.43 assumed an average ZBLL movecount of 12.85 which is close to if not move optimal. The ZBLL algs used to analyse APB are about 3 moves higher, at 15.7. For ZB, the reason move counts like that were used of course was because it was analysed in practice, by hand over a slow turning Ao100, in 2005, where the efficiency/TPS balance was wildly different than it is today (not exactly the height of objectivity).

  • @zakattube
    @zakattube 8 месяцев назад

    @LiamHighducheck What's the reason you specify the counts of OLL and PLL to be only 7 and 21 respectively at the end of the video while more algorithms exist?

    • @LiamHighducheck
      @LiamHighducheck  8 месяцев назад

      Do you mean for the beginner variant?

    • @ekhau1977
      @ekhau1977 4 месяца назад

      I think you meant 2 look OLL and PLL. I use 17 PLL only, breaking down G perms to 2 PLL 😂
      Old man can't remember much algs

  • @cariyaputta
    @cariyaputta 2 месяца назад +1

    2x2x3: 15
    FBEO: 5+7=12
    LXS: 9
    ZBLL: 14
    Average 50 moves, which comparable to CMLL+intuitive Roux or optimized CFOP. The planing during inspection is equal to CFOP Cross+FP and harder than Roux FB+DR. While Roux M slice is problematic, this method is just a worse Roux with S slice abuse. But still I'm looking for a global sub 6 stackmat APB user.

    • @realityisnotlife
      @realityisnotlife 2 месяца назад

      Then I'm your guy, was sub-10 global with CFOP after 2 years, now after four days of beginner APB, I already have this:
      7.58 F' L' U2 R' B2 U2 B2 R D2 F2 R' F' R D' L2 B R' B2 D
      x' z // inspection
      D2 x' U2 R U' R' U R U' R' U F' U' r' U r // 2X2X3
      U2 R U' R' U R' U2 R U' R U' R' U2 F R' F' R // EOPAIR
      U2 R U R' U' R U2 R' // LXS
      40 moves, 7.58 seconds = 5.28 tps

  • @HolmesHobbies
    @HolmesHobbies 9 месяцев назад +8

    I originally learned the petras method, not knowing any other choices (and not having instructions) around 2003.
    This is a fantastic tutorial !! Now that im learning other cubes ive been learning other styles and moves with different operation orders

  • @litcuber1854
    @litcuber1854 10 месяцев назад

    Can you make a tutorial on EO, since it seems to be to most important and tricky step coming from a 13 second CFOP solver.

  • @mrnimblefingersgaming
    @mrnimblefingersgaming 10 месяцев назад +1

    Honestly just learn every zbll and winter variation and you’re good

  • @qutubjed1845
    @qutubjed1845 10 месяцев назад

    what's the software used for the cube algo move counter mentioned in the video?

    • @LiamHighducheck
      @LiamHighducheck  10 месяцев назад

      Batch solver which was created by Trangium. Ryan Hudgens has a tutorial on how to use it (has a bit of a learning curve but after you gen your first alg set you should be fine)

  • @subzero.cuber47
    @subzero.cuber47 8 месяцев назад

    idk, i tried learning beginner abp and is quite good with barely any practise but it takes the fun out of it somehow and idk why, so as good as it is, im not that serious about this and im probably gonna stay with cfop

  • @dume85
    @dume85 9 месяцев назад

    is this a rubik's cube video or a summoning salt speed run video?

  • @rujon288
    @rujon288 10 месяцев назад

    do you know if Trangium was the first person to come up with MCC or was it something they just incorporated into the batch solver?

    • @LiamHighducheck
      @LiamHighducheck  10 месяцев назад +2

      Trangium made the MCC then later on he made batch solver and integrated the MCC in. I would say he’s not the first person to think of the idea since Jperm had this one video where he did a simplified version of it but I’d say he’s almost certainly the first person to actually make a good software version optimised for a large amount of algs

    • @rujon288
      @rujon288 10 месяцев назад

      @@LiamHighducheck ye although I’ve found it to be a bit weird in its ranking when it comes to things greater than 3-gen

  • @norsitoang7714
    @norsitoang7714 10 месяцев назад +1

    I have 2questions, what other things can we improve/optimize on this method and what do you think about doing CDRLL and L5EP instead of LXS and Zbll.

    • @rujon288
      @rujon288 10 месяцев назад

      whats wrong with LxS and ZB not only are they developed highly but they are also proven to be pretty optimal

    • @LiamHighducheck
      @LiamHighducheck  10 месяцев назад

      So we’ve actually put hours into brainstorming new variants or ideas then genning and testing alg sets for different ways to solve things or different sub steps but most of them just can’t beat standard APB. For an extremely advanced solver their main improvements will come from planning further in inspection, solving pseudo blocks, drilling algs for faster execution, and learning alg prediction.
      Alg prediction is probably the biggest thing we are currently looking into, specifically with ZBLL as that is the hardest pause to overcome. One of our members developed a new ZBLL recog system (Tv2) that could allow us to track some useful information during steps like LS or LXS. But obviously no one has gotten near the level where that stuff actually matters so it’s hard to test ideas. We are still working on finding other optimisations where possible.
      For CDRLL and L5EP it is just a worse way to solve things when compared to LXS and ZBLL and is kinda just there for fun. The main reason it’s a variant is because it was a variant in Mehta and when all the Mehta users switched to APB and development started occurring in APB the CDRLL variant was bound to occur.

    • @norsitoang7714
      @norsitoang7714 10 месяцев назад

      Ok thanks

  • @WangYiheng347
    @WangYiheng347 10 месяцев назад +6

    Didn’t expect the video to be this good

    • @LiamHighducheck
      @LiamHighducheck  10 месяцев назад

      Edited on mobile 💪💪

    • @WangYiheng347
      @WangYiheng347 10 месяцев назад

      @@LiamHighducheck wtf actually?? I would not have the patience for that holy

    • @KotegawaYui
      @KotegawaYui 10 месяцев назад

      heyrrison

  • @HBblazas
    @HBblazas 10 месяцев назад

    Can you do a video on the 11 EO algs? I want to learn this

    • @ferguson1376
      @ferguson1376 10 месяцев назад

      Do vids for fingertricks please Liam

  • @thegappleapple7763
    @thegappleapple7763 10 месяцев назад +2

    Ah yes. Time to learn 600 algorithms

  • @ur_local_goomba
    @ur_local_goomba 10 месяцев назад +1

    Just wondering, how do you get the cubes in the thumbnail?

    • @LiamHighducheck
      @LiamHighducheck  10 месяцев назад +1

      Images were made with visual cube. If you look up “cube rider visual cube” it should come up

  • @ThamosProductions
    @ThamosProductions 10 месяцев назад

    what would be the advantages of this over full zb? seems like the same number of algs but slightly less optimal due to a more specific solving order if that makes sense

    • @muyou0107
      @muyou0107 10 месяцев назад

      This is better than ZB in every aspect.

    • @LiamHighducheck
      @LiamHighducheck  10 месяцев назад +1

      ZBLS requires always forcing the FR slot unless someone wants to learn a massive number of algs for all four slots, or rotate. APB's specific solving order doesn't hinder the solve, it actually improves it since the intent is to solve the back pair to have good LXS visibility. To have a set solving order for ZBLS to always end in FR would be a negative impact. You would be losing the important freedom in F2L, making it less efficient. So the specific solving order creates optimal solutions in APB and creates less optimal solutions in ZBLS.
      APB has fewer algs. EOPair + LXS is 244 algs. ZBLS is 305 just for the FR slot.
      APB has better algs. EOPair is under 7 moves on average and the algs are great. LXS is amazing. We just did an analysis on the ZBLS algs movecount and ergonomics and they are worse than both EOPair and LXS.

    • @rujon288
      @rujon288 10 месяцев назад +2

      2x2x3 is the most efficient way of blockbuilding and way >>>> than F2L. F2L is really fairly restrictive in what it allows you to do in the intuitive stage of a solve.

  • @SwagridCubing
    @SwagridCubing 10 месяцев назад +2

    baller method tbh

  • @mariacristinamagtibay9918
    @mariacristinamagtibay9918 6 месяцев назад

    Here's the thing I'm trying to do
    It's crazy I know but
    I wanna 1 look f2l
    With that I can develope an alg set that turns any paired case to an oll cross in any angle
    And with that I can also see the ZBLL which means I can 1 look which is possible I know it I just don't know how to yet

    • @LiamHighducheck
      @LiamHighducheck  6 месяцев назад

      Lmao me too. I’ve already started work on systems to memorise the edge cycles that occur during a LXS alg to predict ZBLL. I’ve also started learning Tv2 recognition for ZBLL which is a system that I think is much more suited to prediction/1 looking.
      Also I think the alg set you’re thinking of is VHLS which is a sub set of ZBLS which is one of the 2 big alg sets in the ZB method.

  • @GWAIHIRKV
    @GWAIHIRKV 10 месяцев назад +2

    I think I’ll stick with - less than 2 minutes! I’m in my 70’s and just can’t be bothered. . . . .

  • @NOONELIKESTHISFEATURE
    @NOONELIKESTHISFEATURE 10 месяцев назад +1

    Ah yes, the "A Bizzare Phantasm" method

  • @Thejfkdkvlls
    @Thejfkdkvlls 10 месяцев назад

    In how much time you will finish the tutorial?
    BTW Really interesting concept and video😀

    • @LiamHighducheck
      @LiamHighducheck  10 месяцев назад

      Might regret saying this but hopefully in the next 48 hours

  • @TMBDucks
    @TMBDucks 10 месяцев назад

    As the first person who ever used this method as my main method, I would like to call you out for your deceptive title.

  • @hideralduhami
    @hideralduhami 10 месяцев назад +3

    Alg methods are faster than intuitive methods

  • @channelnumber52
    @channelnumber52 10 месяцев назад

    Do you think Lexus could be useful for someone who solves with Petrus? I think EOPair looks awful. But, it looks like learning some nice Lexus cases could help certain Petrus solves. I am trying to get sub-15 with as many methods as possible(I currently have Petrus, CFOP, CFCE, and ZZ. My Roux average is like 17). I like Petrus and think it can be faster.

    • @rujon288
      @rujon288 10 месяцев назад

      EO pair is limited but i think the ideal advanced Petrus solver would combine steps like EO and 2 gen block-building to what is intuitively optimal. this would sometimes manifest with EO pair + LxS but it wouldn't be constricted to that and i know that kinda defeats the whole 'algorithmic aspect of APB but the algs in APb are extremely intuitive anyway.

    • @LiamHighducheck
      @LiamHighducheck  10 месяцев назад

      I think it could because if you’re in the EO223 state, solving the back right pair then doing LXS is the most efficient 2 step way to solve the right block (we did some tests on this a while back). EOPair is a great alg set though, but of course recognition is a massive learning curve and the finger tricks can be quite complex. Good luck with your sub-15 journey!

  • @resdwea
    @resdwea 10 месяцев назад

    How would this compare to the method 42?

  • @cubealgs101
    @cubealgs101 10 месяцев назад +1

    sick

  • @GlobeMania
    @GlobeMania 10 месяцев назад +2

    The APB method gives you A PB everytime

  • @fmga
    @fmga 10 месяцев назад +2

    Or you could just use petrus
    (But fr good video, interesting idea)