Didn't carry out electrical safety checks how do you know the boiler wasn't live? You should always check the vessel make sure it's charged at 0.8 bar Analyse with the combustion door on not off
these are all gas safety & combustion related tests. How about boiler efficiency test, would be nice as part of annual service. Efficiency is degraded because of scaling inside heat exchanger, particularly in hard water areas. Now the question is, why is descaling not part of regular service then? Some would call it maintenance. Couple of hours of boiler descaling plus system power flush would certainly extend boiler life, reduce chances of sludge blocking diverter valves, pressure sensors, air vents etc. Not to mention magna filter cleaning which should be part of service anyway.
@@sarunassurvila7857 Providing your flue gas analysis is within tolerance etc, a service should be around 30 minutes on a combi. If you have to clean the heat exchanger or anything additional, then slightly longer, but a standard service would be around 30 minutes easily. Strip down service would be longer but would only be done according to Mis. 1.5 hours for a service is wild. I'd be sacked if I took that long.
Rubbish what should the air intake be?? Have you checked the seal on the burner plate? Have checked the termination of the flue? Gas Pipe sleeved or not?
DZ Malekvali he also most crucial thing I think he never electrically tested the boiler or meter to begin with he touched the boiler without testing if it is live a lot of engineers have died due to this
@Village Heating Great video! When you stick the probe into the flu to do the combustion analysis does the probe go into the exhaust part of the flu only? But when you test the air intake of the flu does the probe come out of the exhaust and go into the air intake part of the flu only?
Check your expansion vessel air charge , flow /return temp deferential, air intake with fga while appliance on for back flow, 20. air or 19.9, boiler safety cut out..flue termination..ect I worked for village heating...rubbish
Spot on Big Dave Must have comb chamber cover on to check air intake Absolutely no need to disturb that G10 if you’re first analyser test passes! Just making all others look bad cause now customers will think it’s a must... Terrible video
I just watched a video of a cockney geezer promoting an extended bi annual service his firm does on vokeras. Apparently the manufacturers instructions aren't necessarily wrong but they're not right because of blah blah blah, it looks like they strip the bloody things down and replace stuff that don't need changing. I'm torn between them just being old school or just taking the piss, I'll go for taking the piss..... If said cockney geezer was a doctor he'd have ignored my test results which indicated I was fine then replaced my perfectly good liver... I paid a tidy sum for my analyser and if says that boiler is running fine I don't mess with it..
I checked the expansion vessel, controls, gas rate, ignition and detection electrodes and was fine. i like the way this guy checked the air intake and flue integrity with the case open. But as said on 4:00, this is a typical service.
Let me try to help you as someone who has worked in the gas industry for many years..............If you are testing the Air Intake of the flue for products of combustion on a Room Sealed appliance you will need to have the Combustion Door ON and SEALED !!........If not then the test is absolutely pointless as the boiler will pull it's combustion air from the point of LEAST RESISTANCE......i.e. THE ROOM !.........If you are Still struggling to understand this then maybe you should be looking for a new career in something that will not endanger people's lives !!
My gas boiler service took gas engineer approx 5 minutes.Charged me 40 pounds.Am I missing something here? or next time should I show him FIRST THINGS FIRST what to do?
Well then all he did were readings and didn’t check expansion vessel, safety valve or pressure test while running….if your boiler is going over 3 bar then you may need to get the expansion vessel re- pressurised and the Safety valve checked.
Other than cleaning out the little pot with deposit is really nothing, £80 for visual inspection and having couple of tools plugged in does seem like a rip off tbh
@@mob9334 you should be gas engineer registered to service it first thing Second thing did you knew how to do tightness cumbusion ,pressures tools and stuff ?cos If you dont do it right this can create carbon monoxide which could result in death worst case scenario Third thing abut price I agree with you it should be around 50 and your boiler strips down and most engineer clean it properly unlike some out there And also we go through 4 year graft to get the qualification not that easy otherwise you won't see a shortage and plenty of work out there you don't pay it they go somewhere else don't matter
I can see Gas Safe pulling them Up for this………. Remove the burner but not replacing the seal, testing for back syphon products of combustion with the burner door open? No gas rate to see if the appliance is over / under gassed. No electricity check to see if appliances is safe, check to see if 3 amp fuse, to protect boiler and PCB. Co Alarms list goes on, no LDF after gas testing. No expansion vessel pressure check.
Do you have to open the burner to check it? Someone told me that when doing a boiler service you only have to open the main heat exchanger and do a strip clean every 5 years
On A rated boilers or premix burners if you like, you decide based on your analyser test! If combustion is ok and gas rate spot on then no need to take that burner off! Regardless of years!
Viessmann insist on a burner strip/clean annually (replace seal every 5 years) regardless of readings (and clean stainless exchanger with a soft cloth (never polish it! -looks wonderful but this introduces micro scratches on the metal which increase its surface area and life expectancy) and vinegar. Vaillant always used to want a burner strip annually . Had a customer who had a new patio laid in the winter. This combustion chamber was covered in indian sandstone dust that had been sucked in from outside
NOT WORTH COMMENTING ON IT'S SO BAD, BUT I WILL , NO ELECTRICAL TESTS, WHY REMOVE BURNER IF CO/CO2 IS OK AND NOT REPLACE SEAL, NO FAN FAIL CHECK, NO LOSS OF WATER CHECK, NO IGN CHECK, NO VESSEL CHECK, NO SOUNDNES TEST ON BOILER AFTER REMOVING BURNER , DIDN'T CHECK FLUE TERMINATION, DIDN'T CHECK CORRECT 3AMP FUSE, AND IT GOES ON MORE LIKE VILLAGE RIPOFF
Excellent presentation. Pity the condensate trap & burner are clean. Pity you aren't using an Anton or Kane analyser. and run through the tests. Never seen the one you were using.
Sorry mate How did you get your job. You seriously don’t know how to service a boiler. Let me correct you if your employer can’t Anytime you break into combustion must replace the seals G10 and more also you can’t removed the case of a boiler and used flue analyser your reading will be wrong.
Handy to also check the Gas Rate and Expansion vessel pressure when cold.
I have never seen any two people do the same service testing. The way they get done depends on which way the wind blows I think.
Every plumbing video I watch, in the comments it's just other plumbers slagging their work off. Worries me as I'm looking to get work done.
Am new to the gas world but isn't safe isolation a part of the procedure
We carry out a Safe isolation before touching the boiler, and check it has a 3amp fuse, then carry out the service according to manufacturers.
just commented this, thank you. it is a part of the service
How many "First of all" 's can you have? I would think only one 🤔
Thats what i noticed ;;;
About 4 times first of all 🤔
Didn't carry out electrical safety checks how do you know the boiler wasn't live?
You should always check the vessel make sure it's charged at 0.8 bar
Analyse with the combustion door on not off
Sniff the knickers when checking rads
what a load of shit. Always check vessel. Non of us carry nitrogen, granted, but air is better than fuck all if its empty...@PlumbRevs
bob bob yep how the fuck did he miss that one 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
You are doing servicing not fixing
@PlumbRevs you are so incorrect about not needing to check vessel
these are all gas safety & combustion related tests. How about boiler efficiency test, would be nice as part of annual service. Efficiency is degraded because of scaling inside heat exchanger, particularly in hard water areas. Now the question is, why is descaling not part of regular service then? Some would call it maintenance. Couple of hours of boiler descaling plus system power flush would certainly extend boiler life, reduce chances of sludge blocking diverter valves, pressure sensors, air vents etc. Not to mention magna filter cleaning which should be part of service anyway.
As a heating & gas engineer for 18 years this is terrible glad I didn't do my training where this guy did his !
How long wojld you say a standard service for a combi boiler would take?
@@ahms8689 I would say about 1,5 hours.
@@sarunassurvila7857 1.5 hours for a standard service?? No chance!
@@steventhomson2104 how long according to you?
@@sarunassurvila7857 Providing your flue gas analysis is within tolerance etc, a service should be around 30 minutes on a combi. If you have to clean the heat exchanger or anything additional, then slightly longer, but a standard service would be around 30 minutes easily.
Strip down service would be longer but would only be done according to Mis.
1.5 hours for a service is wild. I'd be sacked if I took that long.
case should be fitted when carrying out FGA and clean condense trap after cleaning burner
Shouldn't you always check the flue intigrity at air inlet First??
How did you use that manometer without a reducer I've got one & the hose you used is too big for it
Rubbish what should the air intake be??
Have you checked the seal on the burner plate?
Have checked the termination of the flue?
Gas Pipe sleeved or not?
Mel Makavali perhaps you should show us how it's done.
DZ Malekvali he also most crucial thing I think he never electrically tested the boiler or meter to begin with he touched the boiler without testing if it is live a lot of engineers have died due to this
@@davidbrown7988 can you tell us more about this?
You didn't change the burner seal after removing
its good practice
No standing or working pressure test at the boiler gas valve inlet either ?
I thought that
Bet this lads a laugh on a night out!!
@Village Heating Great video! When you stick the probe into the flu to do the combustion analysis does the probe go into the exhaust part of the flu only? But when you test the air intake of the flu does the probe come out of the exhaust and go into the air intake part of the flu only?
Check your expansion vessel air charge , flow /return temp deferential, air intake with fga while appliance on for back flow, 20. air or 19.9, boiler safety cut out..flue termination..ect
I worked for village heating...rubbish
Mel Makavali VILLAGE HEATING ARE SHIT COMPANY AND NOT ORGANISED
Wow that was terrible!! You shouldn't analyse a boiler with the case off also if the burner is removed the graphite seal must be changed
Yep, you can't check the integrity of the flue if the burners taking it's air from the room!
But not all boilers need a new seal when the burner is removed, just fit a Viessmann!
Spot on Big Dave
Must have comb chamber cover on to check air intake
Absolutely no need to disturb that G10 if you’re first analyser test passes! Just making all others look bad cause now customers will think it’s a must...
Terrible video
Thats not the combustion chamber cover, its the balanced compartment cover which also need to be fitted when you analize appliance.
I just watched a video of a cockney geezer promoting an extended bi annual service his firm does on vokeras. Apparently the manufacturers instructions aren't necessarily wrong but they're not right because of blah blah blah, it looks like they strip the bloody things down and replace stuff that don't need changing.
I'm torn between them just being old school or just taking the piss,
I'll go for taking the piss.....
If said cockney geezer was a doctor he'd have ignored my test results which indicated I was fine then replaced my perfectly good liver...
I paid a tidy sum for my analyser and if says that boiler is running fine I don't mess with it..
Can I ask how u used to TESTO to carry out tightness test.. do you just connect it & read figures ? I have bought one but can’t find any tutorials
VHL are rubbish...worked with them short cutting alot
I checked the expansion vessel, controls, gas rate, ignition and detection electrodes and was fine. i like the way this guy checked the air intake and flue integrity with the case open. But as said on 4:00, this is a typical service.
Let me try to help you as someone who has worked in the gas industry for many years..............If you are testing the Air Intake of the flue for products of combustion on a Room Sealed appliance you will need to have the Combustion Door ON and SEALED !!........If not then the test is absolutely pointless as the boiler will pull it's combustion air from the point of LEAST RESISTANCE......i.e. THE ROOM !.........If you are Still struggling to understand this then maybe you should be looking for a new career in something that will not endanger people's lives !!
My gas boiler service took gas engineer approx 5 minutes.Charged me 40 pounds.Am I missing something here? or next time should I show him FIRST THINGS FIRST what to do?
Well then all he did were readings and didn’t check expansion vessel, safety valve or pressure test while running….if your boiler is going over 3 bar then you may need to get the expansion vessel re- pressurised and the Safety valve checked.
Which manometer is he using? Looks a hand size
Do you not need the front case on to check Air quality?
Where did you get the gloves from, they look very practical
Black mamba...toolstation
No working pressure and standing pressure at the meter? Also no operating pressure? Or no Gas Rate...
Are you allowed to use a digital manometer now for soundness testing ?
Why would you not ? Just curious as I've just bought the same unit
Other than cleaning out the little pot with deposit is really nothing, £80 for visual inspection and having couple of tools plugged in does seem like a rip off tbh
That's why I serviced my boiler recently after 4 years, engineer said boiler all good lol
@@mob9334 you should be gas engineer registered to service it first thing
Second thing did you knew how to do tightness cumbusion ,pressures tools and stuff ?cos If you dont do it right this can create carbon monoxide which could result in death worst case scenario
Third thing abut price I agree with you it should be around 50 and your boiler strips down and most engineer clean it properly unlike some out there
And also we go through 4 year graft to get the qualification not that easy otherwise you won't see a shortage and plenty of work out there you don't pay it they go somewhere else don't matter
I can see Gas Safe pulling them
Up for this………. Remove the burner but not replacing the seal, testing for back syphon products of combustion with the burner door open? No gas rate to see if the appliance is over / under gassed. No electricity check to see if appliances is safe, check to see if 3 amp fuse, to protect boiler and PCB. Co Alarms list goes on, no LDF after gas testing. No expansion vessel pressure check.
Do you have to replace the burner seal if you open it ?
Not on the Baxi Potterton range
Is it easy being a gas engineer
No Gas rate check?
Can’t this just be used by criminals to break into cars (and houses)?
Do you have to open the burner to check it? Someone told me that when doing a boiler service you only have to open the main heat exchanger and do a strip clean every 5 years
On A rated boilers or premix burners if you like, you decide based on your analyser test! If combustion is ok and gas rate spot on then no need to take that burner off! Regardless of years!
Viessmann insist on a burner strip/clean annually (replace seal every 5 years) regardless of readings (and clean stainless exchanger with a soft cloth (never polish it! -looks wonderful but this introduces micro scratches on the metal which increase its surface area and life expectancy) and vinegar.
Vaillant always used to want a burner strip annually .
Had a customer who had a new patio laid in the winter. This combustion chamber was covered in indian sandstone dust that had been sucked in from outside
NOT WORTH COMMENTING ON IT'S SO BAD, BUT I WILL , NO ELECTRICAL TESTS, WHY REMOVE BURNER IF CO/CO2 IS OK AND NOT REPLACE SEAL, NO FAN FAIL CHECK, NO LOSS OF WATER CHECK, NO IGN CHECK, NO VESSEL CHECK, NO SOUNDNES TEST ON BOILER AFTER REMOVING BURNER , DIDN'T CHECK FLUE TERMINATION, DIDN'T CHECK CORRECT 3AMP FUSE, AND IT GOES ON MORE LIKE VILLAGE RIPOFF
Burner graphite seal needs to be replaced everytime you service a boiler but he did not.
Not required on every boiler.
First thing? For how many things lol
Excellent presentation. Pity the condensate trap & burner are clean. Pity you aren't using an Anton or Kane analyser. and run through the tests. Never seen the one you were using.
Christian Pereira exactly my thoughts as well lol
Testo I think.
Nothing wrong with Testo mate....German engineering......Just the guy using it ! LOL
Woo he's cute 😍
Sorry mate How did you get your job. You seriously don’t know how to service a boiler. Let me correct you if your employer can’t Anytime you break into combustion must replace the seals G10 and more also you can’t removed the case of a boiler and used flue analyser your reading will be wrong.
Not changing the seal whattttt??
List is long
Village Idiot Heating...no safe isolation, no working pressures, gas rate, no checking operation of FSD.
Adib malas tgk, dia dh bijak
muhamad afifuddin my thoughts also
Don`t get SSE they are crap