🔥THE FIRST "BUDGET" CLASS D AMP WE LOVED
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- Опубликовано: 16 мар 2024
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To comment on the bass. I found no matter if I was hooked up high level or the rca outputs; i was having to turn my subwoofers gain knob over 3x the level i usually set it to. And it still was barely enough. So im not sure why or what is going on there, i can only report what I hear. Now you switch to a fosi v3 or za3 and the bass signal is so strong you have to turn my gain down more than usual lol. At least the fosi does put out a bass signal.
Even though this does bother me to a degree and i hope they address the issue; what this unit does for me SQ wise. Makes it my choice easily.
Now if you are running something like my vintage klh model 17 speakers. Which has a warm midrange and has kittle to no treble extension. Then something like the fosi units are fine. That glaring and harsh treble doesn't come through. You throw the fosi units on a highly revealing speaker like the mark audio viotti one speakers that I have. Which is a bright speakers. Absolutely do not use a fosi unit. I tried for close to 3 days to keep it in my system to break it in and just couldn't do it. My ears hurt soooo bad. All the benefits the fosi za3 has like a quieter background which allows you to hear more detail is a complete moot point because you cant hear and appreciate anything due to the treble.
The douk h7 pro actually improves my treble region. Which is not something that amps do often. Even amps costing $1000's. So for an amp that only costs $130 was a BIG surprise!
Now I know why I don't like my Elac speakers with the V3. I tried SMSL oa200mkII and it was only marginally better in the highs.
I'm hoping to find an amp that really works well with the DBR62 speakers.
On a tight budget. I really am willing to spend up to $1000 Canadian for a power amp. Sadly, that really isn't much and more like $500 USD. Seems like most of the real good budget amps have to be imported, making them less of a bargain here in Canada.
Thank you sir as it is good to get comparisons with so many of the budget Class Ds out in the market now.
It’s murky water for sure. 🤣🤣👌👌
Thanks for the video...at around 3:30 ....No it's not balanced output there it's the input, as I believe....
Correct. ✅
Thanks James!
Thank you Ben.. :)
Many different chipsets, the best cheap ones use tpa3255 in some form. And they sound fine from 70hz up @ 8ohm load, I built one(2,monoblock) use good subwoofer. Diy with good drivers and you will see.
Good options. 😉
Less bass might be a clue, maybe smaller series caps on the input shaving off some bass. That will help the psu immensly since most power is in the bass. These things comes with weak psu and if you connect this to a low sensitivity high end speaker, (84-87db) you'll be dissapointed. These speakers only have decent output into 3-6ohm. A 360w-600w psu, 4 ohm speaker and 90db+ these things works so much better.
Yeah, they work much better on higher-sensitive speakers, for sure. The issue is that typically, those types of speakers are more resolving in nature and quickly share the shortcomings of these types of amps. But, overall, in the price point, this is the best one we have heard so far. :)
Fosi is coming out with V3 mono-blocks
That is the perfect application for the V3s
Fosi is also coming out with something that will be game changing and will shake up the value amp market
One is still using some old marantz model 5 now that's value
I don’t think any of it is really shaking up anything. Good stuff at a good value. None of it punches above its class really.
@@abxaudiophiles Fosi has an amplifier in the pipeline that will disrupt the market
Wait and see. Not a chip amp. Let’s see how they do with it.
@@middleearthltd I am sure it will be great. Most of the FOSI stuff is really good at its price point for sure. :) One thing I have come to realize is these "Giant Slayers" or "Unicorn" units really don't exist. There is typically value at the price point in most things produced these days. Some things slightly edge out others at the same price point in different ways. But overall the overarching theme and experience I have had, is that you get what you pay for in this hobby, and it is a 100% pay to play space if you want true Hi-Fi... There is no budget entry ticket. Not that you can't get great sound from some of these products, because I most certainly have. But, they are typically worth the money and easily bettered by spending 1/3 more the cost on something else, and for sure the used market. Another major thing to consider also, is longevity and life span of these ultra budget Chi-Fi components. I have already had a handful take a crap on me after only a few hundred hours of playtime. All things to be considered. But what a cool time we are in to have all of this crazy and cool stuff to choose from! And it is pretty neat that a person can get some cheap and decent sound in some of this budget gear! Really lays the ground work for people to be able to step into musical playback and start their journey towards true Hi-Fi sound. :)
@@abxaudiophiles I agree with you. I use none of the cheap China brand components in my system.
I would include Wiim in this group.
I can’t see building a worthwhile new system for much less than $3,500
Many, myself included waste $$$ on components that will have to be replaced
if you want decent sound quality….
Save and don’t waste the money on crap if you want decent sound quality
Listen to headphones on your phone and save your $$$
An example
$400 NAD 316 Bee integrated amplifier
$800 Orchard Audio Streamer DAC
$1,600 Zu Audio Dirty Weekend 6 - can get by with no sub and 95 sensitivity
$3,800 system all new that is worth keeping
Just an example of what one could save up for for a quality system and not waste money
Not my system, just an example
You could keep this indefinitely, many years, and be content
Expectations are way too highe for under $150. I spend that on gas in a week. For desktop, patio or garage it’s good to go.
Agreed. 👍🏼
I'd still rather they nix the cheesy VU meters and put that money into higher grade capacitors and other components instead.
Totally AGREE!!! 👍🏼
Chifi junk
Well it’s certainly ChiFi. But to the budget minded audio enthusiasts it’s not really junk persay. I wouldn’t own one, but it’s a value for the price. 😊😊👌👌
Made in China???!!! Nope. Shame on you!!!!!!!
Everything you’re touching, looking at, and listening to right this second is made in CHINA… So is about 90% of the products in your house and in your vehicle and at your work etc.. Shame on you sir. Shame on you… 🤣🤣. But really bro…. CHINA!!!! 🤣🤣👌👌👌
@abxaudiophiles - Hahahaha. BULLSHIT! Not everything is made in China. I own a lot of stuff that does not in any way come from China. You are an idiot if you believe that. I do agree it was a huge mistake to let Communist China in more than they should have. But that doesn't mean a majority of things are NOT made or manufactured in China. Shame on you for being an arrogant, misguided moron. Don't text me again.
Sorry….. You’re incorrect. AND, you just typed back to me on a device that’s all CHINA! 🤣🤣. Go China. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
All of these trash can chifi class D amps are pure garbage. It’s as simple as that. Too many audio informers on RUclips can’t call them reviewers bc they definitely can’t do that, hype these like they are some god send game changer. They are shit plain and simple.
Actually that’s 100% not true. I have multi thousands of dollar systems. I’ve sat down and listened to many and most of these cheap class D. For the price point, they’re not bad for some who wants to step into the game and doesn’t want to go used and is on a budget. They don’t sound as bad as your comments make them seem. And trust me, I wouldn’t own one, and am not influenced or compensated by any of the reviews we do… But these are far from Shit… will they last 5 years? Maybe. Could you do way better buying used? For sure!! 👍🏼
Live under your rock and dont grow and learn with us. Ive said the same thing about this stuff many times. I had to eat crow after hearing this one. Believe it or not i really don't care. We dont make money and line our pockets doing this. We have no incentive at all to hype products just for an affiliate link to make money. As you'll see we dont have affiliate links. All we do this for is because we love it and to raise money for childrens music programs.
So even with your opinion at least you're here watching the content, which in turn raises more money for the charity. So thanks!
@@legione1caponeyou must not have very good gear to compare these throw away amps to. They fall apart at 4ohm loads at average listening levels , maybe and that’s a big maybe it’s good for desktop system. But to even attempt to say it’s good is absolutely wrong. I know this channel doesn’t use affiliate links so save the doing good for good for someone else. I’ve donated tens of thousands to St.Jude anonymously. It’s frustrating to see all of these cheap amps being blasted all over the audio community the market is flooded with this garbage. Plain and simple they are not good. Your not as cool as you think you are bud.
@@Harrisongrey19 its apparent you are not apart of our community and discord otherwise you wouldn't be saying stupid shit like this. James made this video because this product actually sounds good.
Here is a run down of my reference rig since you think you know better than me and make assumptions.
-Orchard Audio Pecan Pi+ dac/streamer powered by LPS and custom silver plated cable
-Mogami 2549 balanced interconnects
-Schiit Freya S preamp
-Orchard Audio starkcrimson ultra DMC 2.0 amp
-Mark Audio Sota Viotti one speakers
-Belden 9497 speaker cable
-Definitive Technologies supercube 1 subwoofer (DIY silver plated high level cables)
-W Audio 3900 power conditioner (for smps devices)
-Antec BP1000 Isolation transformer (for main devices with internal PS)
-All power cables are pine tree audio isobraid and 1 monosound power cable
-1 network switch and a pair of fiber media converters
In the last maybe 3 months these are a few of the pieces of gear ive had in the house:
Atoll SDA200
NAD M33
Orchard audio pecan pi+ premium
Galion ts120
Primaluna evo 300 hybrid integrated
Dynaudio evoke 50
A pair of diy subwoofers
Douk audio F7 pro
Fosi za3
Fosi v3
RSL 255.1
Fosi mc101
Thats just the stuff i remember. Thanks to James i am able to play with this stuff every single day. How about you?
It may not sound good with 4ohm speakers. Luckily mine are a 6 ohm load. My speakers are not forgiving, they dont hide anything and are on the bright side of neutral. Most amplifiers i have heard even the primaluna evo 300 for instance at $7295 has a slight issue on the treble region for me that i can hear. Im very sensitive to it. When i say it sounds good whether you believe it or not. On my setup, with my gear, in my room. For the weeks that used that it did nothing short of impress me. Is it perfect no absolutely not. Im not claiming it is. What i am saying is it give me atoll sda200 vibes and that is a $4300 integrated. For me to even be able to reference the sound being similar to that is impressive to me.
EVERYONE THAT KNOWS ME, knows that i was not happy when james dropped off a big stack of cheap class D. I do not like them either and most of them pushed by reviewers are shit or just ok. This one is better overall than the rest. I ate crow in front of everyone in our discord as i was listening to this for the first time. This should not sound this good for only $130. Frankly they fix the bass issue and id double the price if i was them.
Thank you. Try their B100. Pretty sweet.
Such a bad name for a company... dookey audio. lmao
As i look at your RUclips channel name.. HA... Well done sir.