Thanks for flogging it and letting us know that it's the top dog. Sometimes I hate reviews because no one wants to make a solid statement about how the bikes in the segment truly compare to each other and which one is best. Then you watch countless reviewers with little to no skill ( or maybe it's fear of crashing a demo bike) ride around and never say anything of value because they're scared to lean the bike. I love the way you touch the peg down briefly and then go back for more ! Thank you very much !
Thanks for appreciating! Most reviews don't make these clear statements because the reviewers don't want to anger the manufacturers who provide them with bikes. I'm in the lucky position that I work for a motorcycle magazine that lets me use their demo bikes for my own channel. The marketing people from the manufacturers don't watch my videos and therefore don't complain. I'm in a situation where I can't choose the bikes I get to ride but at least I can talk without having to be diplomatic.
@@Schaaf The manufacturers may not watch your vids but we do. And after watching we get a clear sense of what the bike is about. The big moto mag riding is generally sedate, or at least what we see, and the reviews are always predictable. 🍻
Not to mention this "new" 600-800cc parallel twin segment is probably the most important, because these are the top selling bikes now. It's extremely annoying when all you hear about them is: "yeah it rides great" from some guy in the US going straight at 50 MPH for 10 minutes.
@@Schaaf one thing for sure , the manus know that the big "showoffs" on yt are pussys , and im pretty sure that they watch your vids, exactly because its honest, coldblooded and un"influenced" , you can see it on the insane good reviews the latest sv 650 got from some of the big "official" reviewers included some zonkos , now that its gone, if i were a big manu, i would definetly prefer real reviews, and im poor, dont have a century long history, dont have hundreds of people that check every little detail, maybe im wrong and big money makes big dumb :P
KTM corporate generally allows motojournalists to flog their machines, with abandon. That's quite rare with manufacturers, however. The latest example with this is the 890 SM-T.
I'm honestly really surprised! I thought Suzuki basically had a fluke with the SV, and now that they're replacing it, they would lose the magic that it makes it so great. But to hear such high praise from someone who's experienced so many bikes in this category is really inspiring. Btw, is there any update on the Little Honda™? It's been a few years since we've seen it on the channel, and I just hope it's doing alright. If there was a post about it, I must've missed it somewhere.
Thanks Banshee! Here's your Little Honda update: She's been parked in a dry and warm garage for almost 3 years now. She is all good but would need a carburetor clean-up and MOT to be road-legal again. The little spare time in my life which I have left for motorcycles I use almost 100% on making my RAW videos. But ideally with bikes that haven't been featured on my channel yet since I'm obsessed with creating a catalogue of Onboard videos on here that features as many different bikes as possible. Getting the CB500 back on the road simply has not a high enough priority for me since I don't have the time to ride it anyway. But one day, maybe next year or maybe in 10, I'll get her back on the road and make one more wideo with it.
Yesterday I actually got to test it myself and I agree with your assessment. I was surprised how easy it was to ride. You sit on that thing like it is your bike. Also it felt quite light and nimble to me altough it weights slightly over 200kg. As you said, soundwise there is just not much going on and that really takes away from the riding experience but I'm confident that the aftermarket will take care of that. Good package, one I would recommend to a lot of ppl.
finally ! a video that is not on busy streets...........where the rider is jabbering about features or other trivia............this is WAAAYYY better ! thx. wb
We are in the minority with this one. I have lots of praise for you calling this bike, stable, predictable, easy to ride. These are characteristics every sensible rider should look for in a bike, regardless of it's performance, yet it will be called boring or made for old people. Thanks for the review.
Thank you so much for riding this bike like it is supposed to be ridden! Just bought one because of this review. Suzuki did their homework and I'm so glad they made a desirable and reliable naked! The QS is amazing for a bike that's under 9k MSRP (I'm in the US) and the motor and chassis feel so composed. I was so shocked with how you can push the 8S and it doesn't get overwhelmed. I also love that it has a VIN that starts with J, 😂 🇯🇵❤
I've recently test rode the hornet 750 gsx 8s and the 790 duke and I think this is my favourite has the smoothest throttle and engine and feels so planted and solid in bends Put off a bit by ktms reliability. As the ktm I test rode the quickshifter didn't work above 3rd for some reason.
Nice to read your thoughts regarding the 8S and it’s competition. I’ve been considering them all. I’ll be seeing several in person today, but currently, the 8S is the leader for purchase.
I'm talking to a dealer about getting one now, I hope with upgraded exhaust we can have a more noticeable sound, but aside from that I'm excited to hop on.
Another great one Schaaf, thanks for sharing. You're the only one thus far that has elaborated on ergonomics and relative comfort beyond "it's ok". Your "quick review" section has more substance than most anything else released for this bike at the moment - I realize some have to play nice with "the powers that be" to keep getting called back but most of what was said in most other "reviews" was fairly shallow.
Awesome ride bro. You make the bike (or any bike you’re on 😂) do it’s best on real roads. Love Suzukis and been enjoying my GSX-S750. Your videos is truly inspiring to keep the ride on. Well done 😘
Schöne Strecke, diese Bilder haben mir mehr über den Charakter dieses Moppeds gesagt als alle bisher gesehenen Tests. Danke für die "praxibezogene" Ausfahrt!
Your opinion about the suzuki confirms what i thought when i saw the specs, after a long while of boring bikes in the entry level market this thing seems to hit the mark.
Super review! Ich liebe diesen nüchternen Stil! Stehe gerade vor der Entscheidung 8s oder Tuono 660 Factory. Macht hier nur ca. 1 Tausender Unterschied. Die Tuono hat technisch volle Hütte (IMU usw.) und bei der 8S muss man noch einiges machen, Blinker zum Beispiel. Dafür hat sie einfach einen geilen (vielleicht besseren?) Motor. Würdest du sagen, dass die Tuono eine Klasse uber der 8S ist? Zuverlässigkeit ist natürlich auch so ein Thema. Hört man ja leider immer wieder schlechtes über Aprilia. Hast du als Experte da Erfahrungswerte?
I'm not sure why I expected anything else. Despite always being in the MT09's shadow, the GSXS750 has been a fantastic and capable bike. Not great on paper but somehow great on the road. Hope this does well for Suzuki.
I think the biggest part of that is the naming of the bike! On paper GSX-S750 looks neat but in reality it's a f**king marketing and selling nigtmare. I dunno why they stopped calling their street fighters GSR's.
GSX-S750. Wenns die neu geben würde, hätte ich sie gekauft . Aber die S 8, hat wahrscheinlich, auch seine Vorteile ! Finde beide Super. Gruss u Danke .
how would you compare this to the kawasaki z900? I've bought a used z900 se with the upgraded suspension and brakes because it was less then this. Maybe in a few seasons I would trade it in for something else.
Is better than hornet cb750? (I love xsr 900 3 cylinder sound, actually I got an hornet 600 1999) Schaaf i really appreciate your raw honest review. What the next bike? New Hornet, gsxs8, or Xsr900 … Please I really appreciate your feedback
They way you drive makes it obvious, that this bike is great and intuitiv to ride. Usually I dont like Suzuki that much, but maybe I should try one after your review :) Would you say it is even better than the Street Triple R or rather different, because the Street is more of a sportsbike with its geometry and high revving engine.
Most importantly, the Street is from a different price category. But the 8S is easier to ride and the QS works better. The rest is is better on the Street, according to the price difference
The bikes seem to be confidence inspiring, with a all around good spec sheet for the price. How long have you been riding, since you just throw a leg over it, and scrape the pegs/lean so much?
Amazing video as always Schaaf! I have a Mt-07, and have been eyeing the Hornet... Betwen the Honda and the Suzuki, which one would you go exclusively for the twisties? 👌🏻
The 8S is about €100 more expensive than the Hornet with quickshifter in the Czech Republic. I am a little bit sceptical about sales based on performance numbers it offers. Lets be honest, look and specification sell the bike. Dealers of Suzuki do not offer riding days like competitors, so not many people will have opportunity to try 8S.
True, they don't do riding days east of you either, which is a shame... But sales in central Europe probably don't seem to bother them that much, besides Suzuki has always skimped on marketing the most among the big four.
@@apauma1 i am bit taller (1,90m), the hornet was way too small for me and felt like a 125ccm bike. The 8s felt more stable dn calm. Hornet has more top end power but i like the engine of the 8s more.. idk
Very new to biking, so if during those turns a few pebbles are there that you dont see and you run over them are you just dead? Or can a motorcycle handle those and recover?
A few small pebbles usually won't be a problem. But gravel strips indeed can be a problem. That's why you should never go fast without inspecting the road first in a slow run.
Brill vid, love your riding , i have a black 8s after testing hornet ,mt07 etc back to back in one day ,well the 8s was the best, around the twisted roads i could push harder and had more conficence in the 8s, the extra weight is not a negetive but a positive it feels planted , i have done 1200 miles in the 4 week i have had her, 1st service done and alls well, i can ride 4 to 6 hrs nonstop and as soon as i get home i want to go back out , love it its full of charater and feels alive you must try one , for me it leaves all the other nakeds floundering
Just picked one up today and I totally agree! I had an 2018 MT-07 which I love but this thing has even more amazing low end grunt, WAY better suspension, smooth as silk throttle, and much more to love about this bike.
Thanks Schaaf, I’m hoping this coming out in India (expected at the end of the year 😢) and if this competitively priced like it is globally, I’ll be excited to test as a potential next bike 😊
Looks to perform really well. It's the front headlight arrangement I struggle to like. Much prefer the cleaner look of the round SV headlight. Thanks for your vid, it will genuinely help buyers decide 👍
I am starting to really like the gsx8s. Currently i own an sv650 and i want something more planted in corners something less wobbly. Do you think this would be a great bike to get or should i class up something like mt09 (dont have budget for SP since no used ones are selling) or like Z900 (se) these 3 bikes are on my mind. I dont want a liter bike i think it might be to much for me and also most of those cost more than 10k euros (tried finding used street tripple but they dont exist here lol) Edit: oh and i tend to ride 2up but less aggressive of course
Curious to see what a full exhaust system + ecu flash will do to this bike. I miss my previous XSR700 and with the yoshi R77 system it sounded beautiful, the suspension was just trash unfortunately. Possibly looking at this or Hornet as a 2nd bike again when I don't want to ride my GSXS1000GT for around town, etc.
How would you rate the standard tires (Dunlop RoadSport 2, if you road the bike with them)? I got my 8S a month ago and cant complain since I m not a pro rider and dont want to switch to new ones as long as the current ones are fine. I heard so much good feedback for the S22s but are they really necessary? What is your recomendation for sport touring tires for this bike? Mayby the Bridgestone T32? Best regards and great video as always!
If you are not a very accomplished rider, buying top of the line tyres doenst make any sense. I do track days on S22 and use up new tyres in 5 track day sessions, still i am not able to use the full potential of the tyres. Roadsport 2 is value for money..
Hi again, the decision to change to tires for my suzuki came in way quicker than I thought since the rear tire already is on its limit... would you still suggest the angel gt2 for the gsx8s? which tires last longer than 5000km and are reliable? I would not choose the roadsport2 again since they sadly dont last very long
Ist die Gabel die gleiche wie an der GSX-S 950? Die wäre für mich eine günstigere Alternative zur 1000er. Und vielleicht könnte ein Chip-Tuner den 950er Motor noch etwas optimieren. Oder reichen die 80 PS der 8s?
Is it a worthy successor to the SV650? I think the design of the SV still looks better. Everything that makes the 8S good, mixed with the cafe racer look of the SV650 (But of course slightly updated) would be a pretty cool combination. But i think i understand why Suzuki went with a completely new model.
I hope suzuki keeps the SV in production. From my couch, it looks like the 8s is targeting a slightly different customer - younger, peeking at the MT-07, Hornet, but someone in their forties may not identify with the modern design and compact frame... and there's a engine size and power difference. Otherwise, I think the SV's development costs have long been paid for, hence the great price - for someone looking for a second bike to ride around town, it's the perfect moto-slave.
Can you take a Honda CL500 for a spin? Surprisingly it felt really good, considering other Hondas 500cc It is not fast, not stable, has not the best brakes, but really fun to ride!
That verdict says alot since I know how good the 790 Duke performs. I will take one of these for a testride this coming saturday. Maybe I'll trade my lovely 690 Duke for it...we'll see. Thanks!
It’s seems like a lot of the latest Euro 5 emissions bikes are very muted now from the factory. Unfortunately not always does an aftermarket exhaust solve the issue. It will be interesting to see what the aftermarket can do. It does at least sound better than the current Ducati Monster though.
How does it compare to the F900R? I know the BMW has over 100cc more displacement, so perhaps it's not quite a fair comparison. Love your videos, by the way!
I haven't ridden the 900R for a very long time so I can't say. But I do know that here in Austria the F900R is probably the worst option you can get when it comes to value for money
It's my educated assumption that this 8S has been held back a bit in the ECU. With throttle by wire, manufacturers typically pull back the throttle at the high rpm as much as 30%. In other words, your wrist might be held right to the stop, but the computer is controlling the throttlebody and reduces power at pre-programmed RPM in the ECU. Only way to allow the engine the full beans is ECU flashing.
As a followup to this, lots of development has happened in the States. Stock to fully tuned, it's going from factory 78hp/57ft-lb to fully tuned 90/65.
So Schaff, a brand new 8S or a second hand Street Triple R 2020 with ~4K miles? Pretty much the same price. I've been saving for a 765 for a few years but I like my current Suzuki too. On a SV650 now. Either would be an upgrade. Almost ready to pull the trigger. A very nice problem to solve ;)
Always depends on the usage. For me personally it'd be the Suzuki because it's capable but at the same time very civilised. The Street always pushes me to go fast.
Some say that this is not a powerful bike and that it is too heavy. From your video I wouldn't say so. :) It leans like there is no tomorrow bro. Enjoyed it. Take care. Would like to try one!
@@Schaaf Humm, I my case I wouldn't say sluggish referring to SV650's engine: low range torque is amazing, both in the streets and motorways. Anyway, I didn't try the GSX-8S (not expected to arrive in Argentina, at least in the medium term), so I will keep in mind your comment. Thanks.
Enjoyed the video. Not a huge fan of most motovloggers non-stop talking. Like your style. Also, as long as I can enjoy the bikes sound a bit, I prefer one that isn't so loud you miss other traffic queues/noises. Seems like the bike for me!
Suzuki makes a new bike once in a century, but when the time comes, it is always a masterpiece
So the new Katana was no masterpiece? :D :D
@@Schaaf yes it was! I loved it so much! Sold it only because it was impossible to go at a decent human speed 😂
You mean a mastershit ?
The new Katana wasn’t really a new bike. It was a new image for an already-existing bike.
It looks like Yamaha MT09 combined with Superduke. Not really peak creativity.
Thanks for flogging it and letting us know that it's the top dog. Sometimes I hate reviews because no one wants to make a solid statement about how the bikes in the segment truly compare to each other and which one is best. Then you watch countless reviewers with little to no skill ( or maybe it's fear of crashing a demo bike) ride around and never say anything of value because they're scared to lean the bike. I love the way you touch the peg down briefly and then go back for more ! Thank you very much !
Thanks for appreciating! Most reviews don't make these clear statements because the reviewers don't want to anger the manufacturers who provide them with bikes. I'm in the lucky position that I work for a motorcycle magazine that lets me use their demo bikes for my own channel. The marketing people from the manufacturers don't watch my videos and therefore don't complain. I'm in a situation where I can't choose the bikes I get to ride but at least I can talk without having to be diplomatic.
@@Schaaf The manufacturers may not watch your vids but we do. And after watching we get a clear sense of what the bike is about. The big moto mag riding is generally sedate, or at least what we see, and the reviews are always predictable. 🍻
Not to mention this "new" 600-800cc parallel twin segment is probably the most important, because these are the top selling bikes now. It's extremely annoying when all you hear about them is: "yeah it rides great" from some guy in the US going straight at 50 MPH for 10 minutes.
@@Schaaf one thing for sure , the manus know that the big "showoffs" on yt are pussys , and im pretty sure that they watch your vids, exactly because its honest, coldblooded and un"influenced" , you can see it on the insane good reviews the latest sv 650 got from some of the big "official" reviewers included some zonkos , now that its gone, if i were a big manu, i would definetly prefer real reviews, and im poor, dont have a century long history, dont have hundreds of people that check every little detail, maybe im wrong and big money makes big dumb :P
KTM corporate generally allows motojournalists to flog their machines, with abandon. That's quite rare with manufacturers, however. The latest example with this is the 890 SM-T.
I'm honestly really surprised!
I thought Suzuki basically had a fluke with the SV, and now that they're replacing it, they would lose the magic that it makes it so great. But to hear such high praise from someone who's experienced so many bikes in this category is really inspiring.
Btw, is there any update on the Little Honda™? It's been a few years since we've seen it on the channel, and I just hope it's doing alright. If there was a post about it, I must've missed it somewhere.
Thanks Banshee! Here's your Little Honda update: She's been parked in a dry and warm garage for almost 3 years now. She is all good but would need a carburetor clean-up and MOT to be road-legal again. The little spare time in my life which I have left for motorcycles I use almost 100% on making my RAW videos. But ideally with bikes that haven't been featured on my channel yet since I'm obsessed with creating a catalogue of Onboard videos on here that features as many different bikes as possible. Getting the CB500 back on the road simply has not a high enough priority for me since I don't have the time to ride it anyway. But one day, maybe next year or maybe in 10, I'll get her back on the road and make one more wideo with it.
Yesterday I actually got to test it myself and I agree with your assessment. I was surprised how easy it was to ride. You sit on that thing like it is your bike. Also it felt quite light and nimble to me altough it weights slightly over 200kg. As you said, soundwise there is just not much going on and that really takes away from the riding experience but I'm confident that the aftermarket will take care of that. Good package, one I would recommend to a lot of ppl.
Awesome! Thanks for the comment!
What a glowing review for the Suzuki. Glad you enjoyed it!
Indeed! It's been a while since I rode a bike that impressed me that much!! Thanks a lot, Jello!
Schaaf diese Videos sind perfekt. Sound, Fahren und deine Eindrücke. Sehr wertvoll.
Vielen Dank!
Man the scraping of the footpegs. You are such an awesome rider!
thanks
hes known for editing the screeech in into his vids 😜😇
@@GeschichtsBlitz for real? 😯
@@HypeRapEnjoyer for real for real ? go and watch his very earliest vids on the cb500 and the lean angles and ask yourself - for real ?!
Suzuki is finally getting back into the game after a long time💥🚀
Yes!
They need time, but are always back. :)
Suzuki’s are so underrated I own a GSXR 750 and I am looking for a standard bang for the buck the GSXS 8S hands down.This video sounds amazing.
thanks!
finally ! a video that is not on busy streets...........where the rider is jabbering about features or other trivia............this is WAAAYYY better ! thx. wb
We are in the minority with this one. I have lots of praise for you calling this bike, stable, predictable, easy to ride. These are characteristics every sensible rider should look for in a bike, regardless of it's performance, yet it will be called boring or made for old people. Thanks for the review.
No bother!
Thank you so much for riding this bike like it is supposed to be ridden! Just bought one because of this review. Suzuki did their homework and I'm so glad they made a desirable and reliable naked! The QS is amazing for a bike that's under 9k MSRP (I'm in the US) and the motor and chassis feel so composed. I was so shocked with how you can push the 8S and it doesn't get overwhelmed. I also love that it has a VIN that starts with J, 😂 🇯🇵❤
Congrats!!
I've recently test rode the hornet 750 gsx 8s and the 790 duke and I think this is my favourite has the smoothest throttle and engine and feels so planted and solid in bends
Put off a bit by ktms reliability. As the ktm I test rode the quickshifter didn't work above 3rd for some reason.
Nice to read your thoughts regarding the 8S and it’s competition. I’ve been considering them all. I’ll be seeing several in person today, but currently, the 8S is the leader for purchase.
Good!
I’ve been waiting for you to ride this and I love it. Definitely my next bike. Sound of the exhaust could be explored.
Thanks Nick
The 8R is the one I was waiting for and now it's here and it rocks.
Great!
I'm talking to a dealer about getting one now, I hope with upgraded exhaust we can have a more noticeable sound, but aside from that I'm excited to hop on.
Good choice!
Another great one Schaaf, thanks for sharing. You're the only one thus far that has elaborated on ergonomics and relative comfort beyond "it's ok".
Your "quick review" section has more substance than most anything else released for this bike at the moment - I realize some have to play nice with "the powers that be" to keep getting called back but most of what was said in most other "reviews" was fairly shallow.
thanks a lot
Putting this bike on the top of my "to try" list.
Good plan!
This video just sealed the deal 😊
Excellent!
Awesome ride bro. You make the bike (or any bike you’re on 😂) do it’s best on real roads. Love Suzukis and been enjoying my GSX-S750. Your videos is truly inspiring to keep the ride on. Well done 😘
Thanks mate
Suzuki is King 👑 End of story! Great ride as always!
Thanks!
I like that the scraping foot pegs are almost as loud as the engine
Lol
just buy one for next summer can't wait🎉😊
Schöne Strecke, diese Bilder haben mir mehr über den Charakter dieses Moppeds gesagt als alle bisher gesehenen Tests. Danke für die "praxibezogene" Ausfahrt!
Your opinion about the suzuki confirms what i thought when i saw the specs, after a long while of boring bikes in the entry level market this thing seems to hit the mark.
Yes indeed! Thanks
I kind of love this bike and want one. Great vid as always. Cheers from NYC.
Thanks a lot Steve
Super review! Ich liebe diesen nüchternen Stil! Stehe gerade vor der Entscheidung 8s oder Tuono 660 Factory. Macht hier nur ca. 1 Tausender Unterschied. Die Tuono hat technisch volle Hütte (IMU usw.) und bei der 8S muss man noch einiges machen, Blinker zum Beispiel. Dafür hat sie einfach einen geilen (vielleicht besseren?) Motor. Würdest du sagen, dass die Tuono eine Klasse uber der 8S ist? Zuverlässigkeit ist natürlich auch so ein Thema. Hört man ja leider immer wieder schlechtes über Aprilia. Hast du als Experte da Erfahrungswerte?
I'm not sure why I expected anything else. Despite always being in the MT09's shadow, the GSXS750 has been a fantastic and capable bike. Not great on paper but somehow great on the road. Hope this does well for Suzuki.
Hopefully!
I think the biggest part of that is the naming of the bike!
On paper GSX-S750 looks neat but in reality it's a f**king marketing and selling nigtmare. I dunno why they stopped calling their street fighters GSR's.
GSX-S750. Wenns die neu geben würde, hätte ich sie gekauft . Aber die S 8, hat wahrscheinlich, auch seine Vorteile !
Finde beide Super.
Gruss u Danke .
Love that quick-shifter!
And the scaping pegs 😎
(edit) Any Brake Fade when pushing hard?
Not during that test at least :)
How do you feel it compares to the sv650?
Good job 👍
Do you plan to try the GSX-8R ?
✌️
I've been looking for a new bike and the Hornet or even 2023 sv650 were on my radar. Not anymore, I'm getting the GSX-8S for sure
Great choice!
Good beginner bike?
Love the new cam!
Thanks
Skills are amazing!!
Thank you!
Awesome video, hoping to buy a white one next year!
Nice!
Which bike handles better GSX8S or BMW F900R?
Do you think this bike is more fun or better than SV650?
Your riding is AMAZING! Did you like gsx s1000 or 8s better? Wich one would you recommend?
Both!
how would you compare this to the kawasaki z900? I've bought a used z900 se with the upgraded suspension and brakes because it was less then this. Maybe in a few seasons I would trade it in for something else.
Is better than hornet cb750? (I love xsr 900 3 cylinder sound, actually I got an hornet 600 1999)
Schaaf i really appreciate your raw honest review.
What the next bike?
New Hornet, gsxs8, or Xsr900 …
Please I really appreciate your feedback
Nice vid! No BS, just what we need. Thanks, man.
Does that small screen help with wind?
Thanks. Can't say since I never tried this bike without
you know you're rippin when you hear that peg tapping the ground lol. hell of ride and rider, nice work.
Thanks 👍
I see you have the tiny windscreen add-on. Have you you ridden an 8S without the windscreen? Any noticeable difference with it on?
¿Why do you prefer this Suzuki over Trident and Hornet?
Hi Schaaf, Great video.
Would you choose the gsx8s or the gsxs 750 ?
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@@Schaafthanks ✌
I took a test ride today, bike make me smile! :) Would you say the little windscreen is worth buying?
I don't think it makes any difference but it looks nice
They way you drive makes it obvious, that this bike is great and intuitiv to ride. Usually I dont like Suzuki that much, but maybe I should try one after your review :)
Would you say it is even better than the Street Triple R or rather different, because the Street is more of a sportsbike with its geometry and high revving engine.
Most importantly, the Street is from a different price category. But the 8S is easier to ride and the QS works better. The rest is is better on the Street, according to the price difference
The bikes seem to be confidence inspiring, with a all around good spec sheet for the price. How long have you been riding, since you just throw a leg over it, and scrape the pegs/lean so much?
17 years
changing gear without a clutch? Is that normal ? Will there be any effect in the engine ?
Not if done properly
Gday Shaaf. GSX8S or GSXS750. Which is the most fun on the road? Cheers mate
Depends on your needs
Amazing video as always Schaaf! I have a Mt-07, and have been eyeing the Hornet... Betwen the Honda and the Suzuki, which one would you go exclusively for the twisties? 👌🏻
Suzuki
@Schaaf if i may ask. Would you personally recommend the GSX-8S or The 750 Hornet.
Like your vids. Stay cool as usual.
He mentioned in the end. Suzuki over the Hornet, trident, mt 07 and z650
thanks
so the hornet engine is more exciting right? why did you rate the suzuki higher? components? thank you
Yup
Are the pegs too high for comfort? Im old but still interested in this bike.
To me they're not but I'm just 33 years old
Great riding. I'd love to know what lean angle you were gettting when scraping peg? I'd say high 40's maybe 50. I wish i could ride that well !!!!
unfortunately there's no way of accurately measuring this
Looks like a gem. Thanks Schaaf! Now, how to explain to the bank... 😅
Good question!
you like it more than the hornet?
best mid range parallel twin ?
I think so
The 8S is about €100 more expensive than the Hornet with quickshifter in the Czech Republic. I am a little bit sceptical about sales based on performance numbers it offers. Lets be honest, look and specification sell the bike. Dealers of Suzuki do not offer riding days like competitors, so not many people will have opportunity to try 8S.
I was able to ride it at my suzi dealer 2 weeks ago. I also tested the hornet and went for the 8S
True, they don't do riding days east of you either, which is a shame... But sales in central Europe probably don't seem to bother them that much, besides Suzuki has always skimped on marketing the most among the big four.
@@simonhocke9457 why yozlu choose suzuki?
@@apauma1 i am bit taller (1,90m), the hornet was way too small for me and felt like a 125ccm bike. The 8s felt more stable dn calm. Hornet has more top end power but i like the engine of the 8s more.. idk
I'm just waiting for someone to put the Hornet engine inside the 8S frame. That would be perfect ;)
Very new to biking, so if during those turns a few pebbles are there that you dont see and you run over them are you just dead? Or can a motorcycle handle those and recover?
A few small pebbles usually won't be a problem. But gravel strips indeed can be a problem. That's why you should never go fast without inspecting the road first in a slow run.
Brill vid, love your riding , i have a black 8s after testing hornet ,mt07 etc back to back in one day ,well the 8s was the best, around the twisted roads i could push harder and had more conficence in the 8s, the extra weight is not a negetive but a positive it feels planted , i have done 1200 miles in the 4 week i have had her, 1st service done and alls well, i can ride 4 to 6 hrs nonstop and as soon as i get home i want to go back out , love it its full of charater and feels alive you must try one , for me it leaves all the other nakeds floundering
Congrats!!
Just picked one up today and I totally agree! I had an 2018 MT-07 which I love but this thing has even more amazing low end grunt, WAY better suspension, smooth as silk throttle, and much more to love about this bike.
Great video!
thanks Pete!
Any experience with the A2 version?
That bodes well for the V-Strom 800DE!
Yea
Thanks Schaaf, I’m hoping this coming out in India (expected at the end of the year 😢) and if this competitively priced like it is globally, I’ll be excited to test as a potential next bike 😊
Hopefully!
Looks to perform really well. It's the front headlight arrangement I struggle to like. Much prefer the cleaner look of the round SV headlight. Thanks for your vid, it will genuinely help buyers decide 👍
Thanks mate
sv650 or gsx-8s? The pricing of them (both came with ABS) are too close to each other. Which one would you go for?
I have the same question!
@@wilsonsilva8224 I went for a 8s
If you where a a2 driver with the option of ownig a 8s or 790 duke for comute to work and fun riding what would you choose
8S. I wouldn't like to breakdown on my commutes lol
For a all-Around bike would you prefer s8 over the hornet?
Yes
I am starting to really like the gsx8s. Currently i own an sv650 and i want something more planted in corners something less wobbly. Do you think this would be a great bike to get or should i class up something like mt09 (dont have budget for SP since no used ones are selling) or like Z900 (se) these 3 bikes are on my mind. I dont want a liter bike i think it might be to much for me and also most of those cost more than 10k euros (tried finding used street tripple but they dont exist here lol)
Edit: oh and i tend to ride 2up but less aggressive of course
Indeed it's a great update suspension wise. The 8S is very capable
Curious to see what a full exhaust system + ecu flash will do to this bike. I miss my previous XSR700 and with the yoshi R77 system it sounded beautiful, the suspension was just trash unfortunately. Possibly looking at this or Hornet as a 2nd bike again when I don't want to ride my GSXS1000GT for around town, etc.
Sounds like a plan!
Fantastic motorcycle Suzuki have finally awoken from a slumber !
Yesss
How would you rate the standard tires (Dunlop RoadSport 2, if you road the bike with them)?
I got my 8S a month ago and cant complain since I m not a pro rider and dont want to switch to new ones as long as the current ones are fine. I heard so much good feedback for the S22s but are they really necessary?
What is your recomendation for sport touring tires for this bike? Mayby the Bridgestone T32?
Best regards and great video as always!
The RoadSport 2 are OK. Not more and not less. For Sport Touring have a look at the Angel GT II. It's a bit of a hidden gem.
If you are not a very accomplished rider, buying top of the line tyres doenst make any sense. I do track days on S22 and use up new tyres in 5 track day sessions, still i am not able to use the full potential of the tyres. Roadsport 2 is value for money..
Have a look at Avon Spirit. I'm on my first set on my Duke 690 and they are really good. Done 8000km and there's more in them.
Hi again,
the decision to change to tires for my suzuki came in way quicker than I thought since the rear tire already is on its limit... would you still suggest the angel gt2 for the gsx8s? which tires last longer than 5000km and are reliable? I would not choose the roadsport2 again since they sadly dont last very long
Ist die Gabel die gleiche wie an der GSX-S 950? Die wäre für mich eine günstigere Alternative zur 1000er. Und vielleicht könnte ein Chip-Tuner den 950er Motor noch etwas optimieren. Oder reichen die 80 PS der 8s?
Mir reichen die 80PS komplett
@@Schaaf normalerweise mag ich den Sound von 2 Zylindern nicht. Dieser gefällt mir aber, gerade weil er leise brummt.
I rented one in the south of France for a day in the hills. What a fantastic bike for the price. Better than my Z650 by miles
awesome!!
Hallo.Was streift bei dir immer in der Kurve?Die Knie hast du ja sichtlich angewinkelt.
Fußraste
@@FetusK1cker na dann bist du Scharf unterwegs
@@patrickguger8825 das stimmt, ich sitze hier sogar mit einer Fraktur im Sprungelenk ;) Erst hat die Fußraste geschliffen, dann der Oberkörper lol
@@FetusK1cker Ach Shit.Dann Gute Besserung
@@patrickguger8825 Dankeschön, hab jetzt die vierte Woche hinter mir. Moped wird so früh wie möglich wieder bestiegen
Is it a worthy successor to the SV650? I think the design of the SV still looks better. Everything that makes the 8S good, mixed with the cafe racer look of the SV650 (But of course slightly updated) would be a pretty cool combination.
But i think i understand why Suzuki went with a completely new model.
I hope suzuki keeps the SV in production. From my couch, it looks like the 8s is targeting a slightly different customer - younger, peeking at the MT-07, Hornet, but someone in their forties may not identify with the modern design and compact frame... and there's a engine size and power difference. Otherwise, I think the SV's development costs have long been paid for, hence the great price - for someone looking for a second bike to ride around town, it's the perfect moto-slave.
Indeed, hopefully the SV is allowed to stay. It's a living legend
@@Schaaf true, I would love to have sv as my second bike, riding inside city with my guzzi sport 1200 is sometimes pain in the ass...
Can you take a Honda CL500 for a spin? Surprisingly it felt really good, considering other Hondas 500cc
It is not fast, not stable, has not the best brakes, but really fun to ride!
Unfortunately ruclips.net/video/A_lVU5NGIUY/видео.html
That verdict says alot since I know how good the 790 Duke performs. I will take one of these for a testride this coming saturday. Maybe I'll trade my lovely 690 Duke for it...we'll see. Thanks!
Have fun!
It’s seems like a lot of the latest Euro 5 emissions bikes are very muted now from the factory. Unfortunately not always does an aftermarket exhaust solve the issue. It will be interesting to see what the aftermarket can do. It does at least sound better than the current Ducati Monster though.
The Honda Hornet is proof that Euro-5 is not the issue
How does it compare to the F900R? I know the BMW has over 100cc more displacement, so perhaps it's not quite a fair comparison. Love your videos, by the way!
I haven't ridden the 900R for a very long time so I can't say. But I do know that here in Austria the F900R is probably the worst option you can get when it comes to value for money
@@Schaaf OK thank you!
Which is the best? Hornet or this?
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Motinha divertida da suzuki🔥🚀
thanks!
1:05 cornering abs?
Nah
This thing reminds me so much of the bmw F800R (and s in a lesser way). Such a nice bike! Thanks for the video!
Thanks for commenting!
I ride a f800s and it is the worst suspended bike I've ever tryed.
Are you using only nd8 filter for motovlog?
Yes
Seems like the 8S is a silent killer. Looking forward to the next models of Suzuki. It seems they found their great roots again.
Hopefully
@@Schaaf have you seen the GSX-8S SERT Edition that is for now only available in France? Beautiful!
It's my educated assumption that this 8S has been held back a bit in the ECU. With throttle by wire, manufacturers typically pull back the throttle at the high rpm as much as 30%. In other words, your wrist might be held right to the stop, but the computer is controlling the throttlebody and reduces power at pre-programmed RPM in the ECU.
Only way to allow the engine the full beans is ECU flashing.
Almost every modern bike can be vastly improved with a reflash
@@Schaaf Amen to that!
As a followup to this, lots of development has happened in the States. Stock to fully tuned, it's going from factory 78hp/57ft-lb to fully tuned 90/65.
So Schaff, a brand new 8S or a second hand Street Triple R 2020 with ~4K miles? Pretty much the same price. I've been saving for a 765 for a few years but I like my current Suzuki too. On a SV650 now. Either would be an upgrade. Almost ready to pull the trigger. A very nice problem to solve ;)
I'll take the triumph
Always depends on the usage. For me personally it'd be the Suzuki because it's capable but at the same time very civilised. The Street always pushes me to go fast.
Some say that this is not a powerful bike and that it is too heavy. From your video I wouldn't say so. :) It leans like there is no tomorrow bro. Enjoyed it. Take care. Would like to try one!
Thanks mate
@@Schaaf You are welcome bro.
How do you compare this new model against the Suzuki SV650? (Not only aesthetics, but engine and frame response)
The SV feels sluggish compared to the 8S. But the SVs engine puts a bigger smile on my face
@@Schaaf Humm, I my case I wouldn't say sluggish referring to SV650's engine: low range torque is amazing, both in the streets and motorways. Anyway, I didn't try the GSX-8S (not expected to arrive in Argentina, at least in the medium term), so I will keep in mind your comment. Thanks.
1:29 2:01 2:03 2:10🔉👂 oops
Thanks
I would like to see the the same ride with the Vstrom 800DE
Unfortunately can't choose the bikes I get to ride
It's a good thing that is quiet
Yes
Sounds great. Is it coming to America?
How should I know? :D
Gsx 8s or z900se ??
Depends
Very tempted by the new 800r
Rightly so
Is that a windshield on the front?
Not really, just a stylish cover
Enjoyed the video. Not a huge fan of most motovloggers non-stop talking. Like your style.
Also, as long as I can enjoy the bikes sound a bit, I prefer one that isn't so loud you miss other traffic queues/noises. Seems like the bike for me!
I appreciate that!