This is a video that fits into the select "must-watch" category. Seriously. If I was starting a clan I would expect all members to watch AND incorporate the elements you pointed out. I have 13k matches and can say there's nothing of import I can add to your tips. Very well done Notser ... you packed a lot of useful information into a short period of time. New players who want to improve should watch this, play some, and re-watch. Rinse and repeat untill everything in this vid is second nature. You will become an asset to any team you are on. Das Bat
I dunno, I feel like most of this video is completely uneeded for me. I can judge the shot just by looking at the ship and using the horizontal line of the scope as kind of a level to know what the elevation of my shot is going to be, adjusting to compensate for them heading towards or away to me. As well you get used to shooting ships behind islands and understand your shells arcs pretty quickly on a ship. I'm no super player, it just takes practice. Maybe 20 battles if you've played something similar to this game before, 50-100 if you've never played a game like this before. If you want to learn I'd recommend purchasing the Yubari from the Arsenal to practice shooting HE. It's got pretty good and accurate HE guns and with the upcoming CV rework it's heavier AA might pay some dividends. Then play the Emerald (British TV cruiser). It's a garbage ship but once you've mastered shooting on the Yubari you should be able to handle shell aiming even on the crappy Emerald. Playing the Emerald with it's crappy AP guns with no HE option will teach you how to adjust your shooting when you run into AP rounds that cannot pen or shatter. Killed a BB last night with my Emerald by shooting for high bow/stern and shooting for superstructure as if I was using HE shells. Even with it's high arcs if you've mastered Yubrai shots this is the next step. Once you can consistently land damaging shots on the Emerald you should be ready to shoot on basically any ship. AP rounds are easy compared to HE, as Noster said just aim center ship for the waterline. Close range you'll pen from the side, long range you'll pen from a top down high angle shot. And if you run into a case where you keep getting shatters because your AP is overmatched just remember your time on the Emerald and adjust your aim similarly.
Notser thanks for always being so pleasant in your videos its honestly a breath of fresh air. I would like to have seen more of an example of leading shots on a moving target especially at faster moving targets i.e shooting dds in a BB cheers
Noster, Just wanted to say how much I, for one, appreciate your world of warship videos. They have made the game far more enjoyable since I've started watching them and whenever I get a new ship, before I ever take it out of port, I reference to see what you have to say about the subject matter. Hopefully others have had the decency to pass along their thanks because the amount of time you put into these videos is truly selfless and as I said earlier very much appreciated. Keep up the outstanding work. Best Regards, Patrick O'Flanagan
I was subconsciously doing a good amount of this. But thank you so much for explaining the targeting reticle and how to time your salvos while leading. That helped a ton.
Great video Notser!!! The more you practice, the better you get at aiming... And every bit of new information (or even not that new, but clarifying) helps!!! Keep up the amazing work!!!
as for lead, smoke dissipates in 3.6 seconds, so you can calculate lead by watching enemy ship smoke+shell flight time. works very well against ships not sailing at their max speed
I was never good at shooting long range with scout aircraft because of the perspective. Now I know to check the mini-map to see exactly where I’m aiming. Thanks, Notser!
Maybe someone already mentioned this, but the ticks can't be seconds, as the ticks would have to change with the distance of the point you're looking at (I don't mean zoom), as optically the distance travelled by object far away is shorter than distance travelled by an object being closer. The ticks are some kind of angle marks.
Thank you for this video. I had been forgetting to use my spotting aircraft. After watching this video I played a few games and each game got an extra kill using the spotting aircraft.
Some couple of additions that are worth mentioning. Know the approximate speed of your opponents. If faster than reticule speed than add time to shot, slower use a shorter time. Battleships under 30 knots at low tiers up to slightly over at high tiers, reduce by about 10% to right on shell flight time, or aim slightly further back on ship. Cruisers are usually slightly over 30 knots, I add approximately 10% to shell flight time, or put shell flight time at nose not citadel. Destroyers tend to be much faster than 30 knots, I go at around 150% of flight time (half again the flight time, ie. 5 sec flight time, aim at 8 sec). Smoke stack can tell you approx % of speed. Straight up or no smoke is stopped, straight back is full speed. Target angle can also change aiming. Broadside is flat. The more the ship is angled the shorter the aiming time is till it reaches 0 when they are bow or stern on to you. Also you need to raise if the ship is kiting or going away, lower the point of aim if they are coming towards you. Use the water line of ship to judge angle and aim along that line.
Thanx Notser, I have fallen in to a " cant hit shit " mod of late .I needed a quick refresher and reedumacation from a Master thanks for helping my enjoyment of my WOWS investment. Nothing like burning out on a game after you build a fleet of over a hundred and invest since the first year. Thanks for fighting for the player base and always being honest and not a warship patsy.
Nice video, Notser! Thanks for taking the time to break down components of aiming and firing! I'm relatively new to the game (mobile version) and I although the mobile version isn't as involved, the principles (should) still apply! Thanks again! I enjoyed it :-)
While everything mentioned in here is true and good info, I truly feel that aiming well and quickly while under pressure is just an acquired feeling. Use intuition, because you won't have time to number crunch. Source: my own track record with 40% hit rate. I don't use anything but the static crosshair that has been in the game since alpha.
Agreed. I only have 1.5k games but what I do is tend to visualize the shells and where they will fall and try and put myself in the enemy ships head. As in where would I turn? And my accuracy has been going up thanks to that.
Aiming in Warships is a vector magnitude problem that takes into consideration factors related to the cosine function and time. If the ship is at an angle of 45 degrees that is an indication that the seconds should be halved as the cosine of 45 decrees is 1/2. 1/2 times the seconds to target gives the correct seconds for where you want your shells to fall. Moreover, as Noster said speed is also a factor so: using all the variables Sd (.01 - 1)x( Cos (Theta))x(seconds) should give the correct number for placement of the reticle. I use Stiv 372 and the angle indicator from Mod Stations. Once you get a feel for it then it becomes second nature and calculations are not needed.
I agree with most tips on here except for turning on all the settings on the minimap. As helpful as they can be, they can obscure your minimap with all that mess if you happen to have a small screen. Though people with a bigger monitor may consider turning on those features.
That was extremely helpful. I'm actually pretty good at Fame, but I find that my damage output is often less than others with similar weaponry. Now I know why. And to be honest, I didn't really now what the gradations on the crosshairs meant. I use them, but now I can use them more effectively taking my shots. The one thing I was always really bad at was aiming when the Scout plane was up. Now I think I will be much better.
Nice instructional video. A nice fallow up would be aiming at targets that have sections that have damage saturation. Just last night I had a game where two Yamatos where bow in for 15 minutes shooting at each others nose. Causing little damage. Keep up the value add contain, and helping us hone our skills.
thanks Notser a great video, which I will keep coming back to. hope you have a great Christmas and happy New Year. I also hope the new year will bring better things for your family
I have explained this in text several times, going to send links to this. I do leave out the AP waterline, HE aim higher bit, but I do include telling them static cross hair number 8 is great for learning to aim at not quite broadside ships especially with spotter planes. Thanks.
yep, added this one to my clan web site tips and tricks section - valuable info especially for newer captains - but even veterans. So many who don't actually look at ship armor schemes ... Good Hunting ! Karandar
diagonal towards you or on the turn towards you... 2 different things. If he is going straight in a diagonal towards you just judge the speed and than look at the minimap and put your aiming circle on his vector. If he is turning you always have to take into consideration that ships don't turn but drift ... so if he turns towards you aim slightly to the outside of his turn to hit him bang on.
and still this video like many others doesn't explain aiming as it really is. the numbers on the aiming reticule don't work at all ranges. You don't aim at a certain number on that line at 8 seconds shell travel time and then if the shell travel is 16 seconds you just aim double that number. Hence this video like others tell only a fraction of the story.
@@Bakotcha this is an earlier message of mine, se if you can understand from it: Sorry but the crosshairs aren't scaled to 20 or 30 kts. Of course, at a certain range it's bang on like described in the video but try and aim at a target moving at 30kts 26kms away for example with the yamato. The shell travel time will be around 15-16 seconds. Try and aim at the 15th mark (using the dynamic crosshair let's say) and see if you hit the target bang on in the middle. I can assure the shells will land in front. What the ticks do is help you judge the ship's size and aim at a certain distance in front of it, nothing more. Over time, a player will only look at the shell travel time and do a quick estimate of the ship's speed and take the shot without looking at the ticks anymore.
@@Bakotcha To understand better you should lead the shots unsing the ship's size. The numbers just help you approximate this size at different ranges. If you test this le's say you get to a certain scenario. You aim at a ship that is at 10km distance and the shell travel time is 6 seconds. To hit the middle of the ship you have to aim at 1/3 of the ship's length ahead, whatever this lenght is in the units on your reticle will depend on the ship itself, let's say it's 8 units from the center of the ship ok? Now, at bigger range, say 17km you will have 12 seconds of shell travel time, in which the ship will move forward double the initial distance, meaning 2/3 of it's length, so you will have to aim this amount further from the ship's center. And here is the catch: at 17 km distance, the ship will be way smaller in your view but the units on the screen remain static, so you will have to size the ship again, let's say it appears to be 5 units lenght at that range, but you have to lead your shot 2/3 ship lenghts ahead, so that is 3,3 units. So you point the crosshair 3,3 units away from the ship's center in that case. Basically you will find out that as the range increases, you will aim way closer that you are told to in all of these aiming guides that don't take into account that the ship's size changes relatively to the units on the screen at different ranges, hence it is WRONG to say smth like: you have 6 seconds travel time you aim at X units ahead, if you have 12 seconds travel time you aim at 2X units ahead. See the idea? you have estimate the actual distance that the ship travels in a number of seconds, and that distance you can only correctly estimate using the ship length, for the begining you can estimate this using the units but with experience, you will do this by eye, and you will not look at the numbers. Experienced players do this instinctively, oddly enough they were unable to explain this so far :)
Hey Notser! Greeting from Asian server! Just try to break through 54% of win rate! And this video is really useful for me! Didn't even know what's the meaning or those numbers and lines besides the cross XD BTW I am a big fan of IJN DDs, hopefully you will have more games demonstrate IJN DDs! And maybe show us how to aim torps as well!
A lot of aiming comes from intuition and experience. Aiming also depends on how fast ship is moving, type of ship, whether ship is moving towards or away, and how it is angled.
Exactly what @nutluck said, i struggle sometimes with aiming at ships moving away, coming towards me, or in a turn at long range, especially in my battleships. I can adapt with cruisers and DD's ofc as their rate of fire, but with a battleship, you have one chance to hit . Please post a video on that if possible, thanks!
This is all great advice UNLESS you're in a BB, your dispersion is nearing 300, and all that effort you put into your aiming is more like just... a suggestion. There are several videos like this but they're almost always from a cruiser or DD's point-of-view. So what can you say beyond what's in this video if you're running a BB?
Thanks mate, very usefull video ! Especially how to aim with the minimap ;) Also, to see a ship behind an island you can spam M (the map button). The view will go a bit up
Next Video - Aiming at moving targets. How much times the lead is to be given ? Assuming targets are going at full speed.. 2× for dd 1.5 × cl and 1× for bb (correct me if I am wrong) Also there needs to be more types of dynamic cross hairs like static ones. Please raise this issue with developers as I think you Noster are the only CC using dynamic hairs
Agreed mate ! In the old days I used to think that type of aiming formula... but then after the FR CA coming, I feel this formula is abit off... because its scale based on the speed. Then I make some correction with that formula, now I usually put in speed scale like... 40 knot (Like khaba) = 2.5x Or put it simply, I used to put the exact travel time per ship class like... For DD (40 knots) = 2x time travel put the point at the edge of the bow For CA (35 knots) = 1.5x time travel put the point at the citadel, or u can put 1x time travel at the edge of the bow For BB (30 knots or less) = 1x time travel put the point at the citadel or magazine And yeah the dynamic reticular lacks of variety, we really need angling line like the static one XD
Idk why people dont talk about this but I also think it helps to turn the water in the minimap to transparent. Then I increase map size to as big as it can get
I always bad at playing with battleship....always miss...always not pen and do no damage.....for years i dont know how the aim work out....how the shell calculate the range....how the shell calculate the armor pen....this video give me a ray of hope to play as battleship back...all this time i just play as carriers....thanks for the guide....i hope to be a better player using battleship
Thank you. I am a LATE starter in this game (less than a month ago) and, I really appreciate your videos. Good attitude, very neutral observations and being blunt about your observations mistakes and potential ideas during a battle is very informative. Thank you. Between you and, jingles (for different reasons) you guys have the best videos. As a side note.....I understand you are not the game designer but any reason the 180mm is not more widely used? Such a great round and wish it was more wide spread. So leading into my request. Could you do a video on caliber sizes, shell velocity and penetration values in relation to the armor needed? I understand the basics of shell size vs armor value and the basic modifiers of dividing by 4 or 6 (depending on the nation) but is there a different value added on when using shell velocity? I mean.....does the Russian CAs and the Italian CAs get a bonus on penetration values due to SOLELY high velocity values of the shell? I know Germans get the divide by 4 but, I am not grasping how shell velocity adds into the equation or if it is another factor entirely (in game mechanic terms, as, I understand real world values)? I mean...does the, Duca D'aosta have a better penetration (I know it gets more over pens) than another cruiser with the same caliber gun with the divided by 6 modifier? How many mm's does the shell velocity add onto penetration or due to a lower shell velocity detract from the penetration? I mentioned the, Russians as well because of their high velocity shells but the CAs do not get the divided by 4 modifier....so....how are these calculations included in the gam and what is the equation?
Protips: You can use minimap crosshair indicator to shoot at ships spotted by your friendlies in cyclone. You may not see them but you can still hit them if you aim well.
As something of a follow-on, do you have any advice with difficult situations such as the U.S. 6" and 5" shells at range. The target has time to turn around, get a cup of coffee and grab two CAPs before they land. Would you double-click to salvo, which is what I see most of the good players do, or might it be better to click and hold to fire sequentially? It might be better to spread the salvo vertically or horizontally to hedge a course or speed change. Alternatively, dispersion, sigma value, and the apocryphal RNGesus may automatically do that for you. Excellent video. Played this game for years without knowing about the alternative interface, etc. (Gnarly, wrinkly, stinky potato) I learned some of it a piece at a time through your videos, iChase, Flambass, etc. But this puts a lot of it together.
I would like to be able to dismiss the scout airplane. There are times you shoot, then unzoom, and the new ship you want to target is not able to found quickly when you zoom again esp when the new target it close.
If you select the ship (hover shooting cursor over it) before zooming in it will go straight to it. The other way is to press "x" key if it has not been selected near to ship on zoomed out view (this is a toggle so will unselect with x if already selected). If there are 2 enemy ships close together and the auto select has the one you don't want then "x" key will change it.
this is so much different on consoles, i need to look into the settings some more cause i dont think we have all these options yet. the video was very helpful though thank you
Love this video...required viewing. I've been playing WoWS for about 2 weeks now, and get very frustrated when the weekend vets come out with their Gandalf-like shot wizardry, deleting my ship before I've had a chance to "range-in" my shots.
aiming at stationary ships is one thing, moving ships totally different matter. aiming has changed quite a lot with all the "default" captain skills, these days. you need to be clairvoyant and guess the right direction a ship will turn once you unleashed your salvo, mostly over are the times where you can just aim at the waterline and score a hit. I have that down ok, my biggest problem is when a ship comes at me at an angle at greater distances, there is a "sweetspot" of angle where aiming for me is a nightmare
i dont know how dynamic reticle works at large distances and from scout aircraft camera, mostly i cut what reticle says in two, for some reason cutting in two works best, even i dont have any precision whatsoever
Only if he's the last target left. But it can be done. There is a recent video from Flamu, where he nails a DD from 20km with a Yamato I believe. Could be a Musashi as well.
I'm having problems aiming with the Musashi. It seems to me that the shell flight time to target indicator (in seconds, the one to the left of the aimpoint) is totally off. It seems the actual shell flight time is shorter than what the indicator says. For example, if the enemy ship is going at about 30 knots and the indicator says flight time is 14 seconds, then if I give a 14-dot lead on the sight, the shells will actually get there faster and hit the water in front of the enemy ship. Has anyone noticed this? I know the Musashi/Yamato have a pretty fast muzzle velocity but I thought the shell flight time indicator would be scaled to the actual ship you're using at the moment, so shell velocity shouldn't matter. This is something I've only noticed on my Musashi. I have no problems aiming accurately with any other ship.
I have a lot of trouble with off angle targets. Moving toward or away from me especially at 45 degrees to, say, 75 degrees. There is no aiming reticule to aid with off angle shots like that, especially on smaller targets. So it's difficult for me to land shots when people are angled on me. Especially in USN cruisers because the shells are so slow and lofty that hitting anything past 12km is for me impossible.
hey thanx for the video !!!! just one question !!! to to align the crossair horizontal line, as in should it be touching the target vsl's hull top section or at the waterline !!! ps i just started and play on PS4 :-) !!!!
Hi there Notser, that was a great video about aiming tutorial. I want to ask, how do you aim a ship that is turning towards or away from you ? Obviously you need to reaim, but how specifically ? Can you make a tutorial video about how to aim on ships that heading towards you or turning away from you ? Thanks.
Great stuff, really helpful been playing 5/6 months now and not really understood most of this. Bit off topic, but what is Free XP used for? Been told not to use it for ships in the tech tree, but if you're short by few thousand why not? Thanks😀
I only aim waterline if the ship is very very close, like 8km or less. Otherwise with dispersion i always aim for the deck, Because some of the shots will land at waterline.
What irks me is the different nations require different heights of aiming for that citadel. Some you need water line and some you need to aim like 3/4 up the side of the ship.
I'm on the PS4 and I can only get a crappy type of crosshair on my gun cam. I can't seem to get a dynamic crosshair that has actual numbers denoting the seconds along the x- axis like 5,10,15 etc.
I honestly find it a bit too timeconsuming in a lot of situations to double check the lead indicator. Its much more effective to learn to do it by intuition alone, of course that brings other problems, for example if you switch to a ship with different shell velocities and shell trajectories. But its not hard to learn and to adapt.
A much needed video would be about WoWs economics, including when the best time to purchase Premium time. Tired of buying premium and several days - weeks later it goes on sale for 20% off.
(NOTSER) can you make a video on if you guns can pen another ship like how the math is figured out if the caliber of your gun can penetrate the enemy BB or CL or what ever your fighting. But how can some tell if you should be using AP on the ship or if your H.E. can pen it. Because people don't know if its a good idea to shoot at the hull or to shoot at the superstructure I have been noticing. So maybe people need a little bit of help with that kind of stuff. Because I know there is a mathematical equation and solution to figuring it out but I myself forget what it is to figure out if my ships can pen another ship.
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been playing the game for almost 3 years and I finally understood what those lines in the binocular are for
yo same been guessing this whole time
Thought they're for the distance...so 5km, 10km, etc.
I thought they were for seconds @ the given speed?
Lmfao
This is a video that fits into the select "must-watch" category. Seriously. If I was starting a clan I would expect all members to watch AND incorporate the elements you pointed out. I have 13k matches and can say there's nothing of import I can add to your tips. Very well done Notser ... you packed a lot of useful information into a short period of time. New players who want to improve should watch this, play some, and re-watch. Rinse and repeat untill everything in this vid is second nature. You will become an asset to any team you are on.
Das Bat
I dunno, I feel like most of this video is completely uneeded for me. I can judge the shot just by looking at the ship and using the horizontal line of the scope as kind of a level to know what the elevation of my shot is going to be, adjusting to compensate for them heading towards or away to me. As well you get used to shooting ships behind islands and understand your shells arcs pretty quickly on a ship. I'm no super player, it just takes practice. Maybe 20 battles if you've played something similar to this game before, 50-100 if you've never played a game like this before.
If you want to learn I'd recommend purchasing the Yubari from the Arsenal to practice shooting HE. It's got pretty good and accurate HE guns and with the upcoming CV rework it's heavier AA might pay some dividends. Then play the Emerald (British TV cruiser). It's a garbage ship but once you've mastered shooting on the Yubari you should be able to handle shell aiming even on the crappy Emerald. Playing the Emerald with it's crappy AP guns with no HE option will teach you how to adjust your shooting when you run into AP rounds that cannot pen or shatter. Killed a BB last night with my Emerald by shooting for high bow/stern and shooting for superstructure as if I was using HE shells. Even with it's high arcs if you've mastered Yubrai shots this is the next step.
Once you can consistently land damaging shots on the Emerald you should be ready to shoot on basically any ship. AP rounds are easy compared to HE, as Noster said just aim center ship for the waterline. Close range you'll pen from the side, long range you'll pen from a top down high angle shot. And if you run into a case where you keep getting shatters because your AP is overmatched just remember your time on the Emerald and adjust your aim similarly.
Geez 13k... I have 1.5k and I only just broke 16k on tanks. That’s a level of experience I need to be at.
Notser thanks for always being so pleasant in your videos its honestly a breath of fresh air. I would like to have seen more of an example of leading shots on a moving target especially at faster moving targets i.e shooting dds in a BB cheers
Noster,
Just wanted to say how much I, for one, appreciate your world of warship videos. They have made the game far more enjoyable since I've started watching them and whenever I get a new ship, before I ever take it out of port, I reference to see what you have to say about the subject matter. Hopefully others have had the decency to pass along their thanks because the amount of time you put into these videos is truly selfless and as I said earlier very much appreciated. Keep up the outstanding work.
Best Regards,
Patrick O'Flanagan
I was subconsciously doing a good amount of this. But thank you so much for explaining the targeting reticle and how to time your salvos while leading. That helped a ton.
Great video Notser!!! The more you practice, the better you get at aiming... And every bit of new information (or even not that new, but clarifying) helps!!! Keep up the amazing work!!!
I had around 100 hours in this game and still didn't know about most of tips you gave on this video. Extremely helpful. Thanks
as for lead, smoke dissipates in 3.6 seconds, so you can calculate lead by watching enemy ship smoke+shell flight time. works very well against ships not sailing at their max speed
Great advice Noster. I've been playing for over a year but it's still useful to be reminded what good aim looks like.
I was never good at shooting long range with scout aircraft because of the perspective. Now I know to check the mini-map to see exactly where I’m aiming. Thanks, Notser!
Maybe someone already mentioned this, but the ticks can't be seconds, as the ticks would have to change with the distance of the point you're looking at (I don't mean zoom), as optically the distance travelled by object far away is shorter than distance travelled by an object being closer. The ticks are some kind of angle marks.
Thank you for this video. I had been forgetting to use my spotting aircraft. After watching this video I played a few games and each game got an extra kill using the spotting aircraft.
this has been the best aiming video I have seen. thanks
no it's not. ship is not moving
Some couple of additions that are worth mentioning. Know the approximate speed of your opponents. If faster than reticule speed than add time to shot, slower use a shorter time. Battleships under 30 knots at low tiers up to slightly over at high tiers, reduce by about 10% to right on shell flight time, or aim slightly further back on ship. Cruisers are usually slightly over 30 knots, I add approximately 10% to shell flight time, or put shell flight time at nose not citadel. Destroyers tend to be much faster than 30 knots, I go at around 150% of flight time (half again the flight time, ie. 5 sec flight time, aim at 8 sec). Smoke stack can tell you approx % of speed. Straight up or no smoke is stopped, straight back is full speed. Target angle can also change aiming. Broadside is flat. The more the ship is angled the shorter the aiming time is till it reaches 0 when they are bow or stern on to you. Also you need to raise if the ship is kiting or going away, lower the point of aim if they are coming towards you. Use the water line of ship to judge angle and aim along that line.
TY Notser vids like this are why you are my fav wows cc
I would expect everyone to know this already, but it is a very nice and short video explaining the basics.
Outstanding training video, Notser!!!
Thank you!
Good stuff! Appreciate the instruction - other CCs take note!
Thanx Notser, I have fallen in to a " cant hit shit " mod of late .I needed a quick refresher and reedumacation from a Master thanks for helping my enjoyment of my WOWS investment. Nothing like burning out on a game after you build a fleet of over a hundred and invest since the first year. Thanks for fighting for the player base and always being honest and not a warship patsy.
Nice video, Notser! Thanks for taking the time to break down components of aiming and firing! I'm relatively new to the game (mobile version) and I although the mobile version isn't as involved, the principles (should) still apply!
Thanks again! I enjoyed it :-)
As someone who is just learning this game this was very helpful thank you
While everything mentioned in here is true and good info, I truly feel that aiming well and quickly while under pressure is just an acquired feeling. Use intuition, because you won't have time to number crunch.
Source: my own track record with 40% hit rate. I don't use anything but the static crosshair that has been in the game since alpha.
Agreed. I only have 1.5k games but what I do is tend to visualize the shells and where they will fall and try and put myself in the enemy ships head. As in where would I turn? And my accuracy has been going up thanks to that.
Aiming in Warships is a vector magnitude problem that takes into consideration factors related to the cosine function and time. If the ship is at an angle of 45 degrees that is an indication that the seconds should be halved as the cosine of 45 decrees is 1/2. 1/2 times the seconds to target gives the correct seconds for where you want your shells to fall. Moreover, as Noster said speed is also a factor so: using all the variables Sd (.01 - 1)x( Cos (Theta))x(seconds) should give the correct number for placement of the reticle. I use Stiv 372 and the angle indicator from Mod Stations. Once you get a feel for it then it becomes second nature and calculations are not needed.
I agree with most tips on here except for turning on all the settings on the minimap. As helpful as they can be, they can obscure your minimap with all that mess if you happen to have a small screen. Though people with a bigger monitor may consider turning on those features.
Thanks for this tips! this actually really helped me out in my matches since i miss the 70% of my battery shots
That was extremely helpful. I'm actually pretty good at Fame, but I find that my damage output is often less than others with similar weaponry. Now I know why. And to be honest, I didn't really now what the gradations on the crosshairs meant. I use them, but now I can use them more effectively taking my shots. The one thing I was always really bad at was aiming when the Scout plane was up. Now I think I will be much better.
Nice instructional video. A nice fallow up would be aiming at targets that have sections that have damage saturation. Just last night I had a game where two Yamatos where bow in for 15 minutes shooting at each others nose. Causing little damage.
Keep up the value add contain, and helping us hone our skills.
thanks Notser a great video, which I will keep coming back to. hope you have a great Christmas and happy New Year. I also hope the new year will bring better things for your family
I have explained this in text several times, going to send links to this. I do leave out the AP waterline, HE aim higher bit, but I do include telling them static cross hair number 8 is great for learning to aim at not quite broadside ships especially with spotter planes. Thanks.
Nice one, also this helps me play with battleships and make perfect accurate shots and do tons of damage, thanks Notser 👌
Notser, my voice is twice as deep as yours and even mine break sometimes. No need to interrupt the lesson to apologize.
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yep, added this one to my clan web site tips and tricks section - valuable info especially for newer captains - but even veterans. So many who don't actually look at ship armor schemes ...
Good Hunting !
Karandar
Thanks for helping me on my aim, my weakness is when the target turns towards me
diagonal towards you or on the turn towards you... 2 different things.
If he is going straight in a diagonal towards you just judge the speed and than look at the minimap and put your aiming circle on his vector.
If he is turning you always have to take into consideration that ships don't turn but drift ... so if he turns towards you aim slightly to the outside of his turn to hit him bang on.
5 years.. 5 years of stupidity..
Im glad I finally watch this video.
and still this video like many others doesn't explain aiming as it really is. the numbers on the aiming reticule don't work at all ranges. You don't aim at a certain number on that line at 8 seconds shell travel time and then if the shell travel is 16 seconds you just aim double that number. Hence this video like others tell only a fraction of the story.
@@ripptorr explain to me
@@Bakotcha this is an earlier message of mine, se if you can understand from it:
Sorry but the crosshairs aren't scaled to 20 or 30 kts. Of course, at a certain range it's bang on like described in the video but try and aim at a target moving at 30kts 26kms away for example with the yamato. The shell travel time will be around 15-16 seconds. Try and aim at the 15th mark (using the dynamic crosshair let's say) and see if you hit the target bang on in the middle. I can assure the shells will land in front. What the ticks do is help you judge the ship's size and aim at a certain distance in front of it, nothing more. Over time, a player will only look at the shell travel time and do a quick estimate of the ship's speed and take the shot without looking at the ticks anymore.
@@ripptorr Understandable, have a good day.
@@Bakotcha To understand better you should lead the shots unsing the ship's size. The numbers just help you approximate this size at different ranges. If you test this le's say you get to a certain scenario. You aim at a ship that is at 10km distance and the shell travel time is 6 seconds. To hit the middle of the ship you have to aim at 1/3 of the ship's length ahead, whatever this lenght is in the units on your reticle will depend on the ship itself, let's say it's 8 units from the center of the ship ok?
Now, at bigger range, say 17km you will have 12 seconds of shell travel time, in which the ship will move forward double the initial distance, meaning 2/3 of it's length, so you will have to aim this amount further from the ship's center.
And here is the catch: at 17 km distance, the ship will be way smaller in your view but the units on the screen remain static, so you will have to size the ship again, let's say it appears to be 5 units lenght at that range, but you have to lead your shot 2/3 ship lenghts ahead, so that is 3,3 units. So you point the crosshair 3,3 units away from the ship's center in that case.
Basically you will find out that as the range increases, you will aim way closer that you are told to in all of these aiming guides that don't take into account that the ship's size changes relatively to the units on the screen at different ranges, hence it is WRONG to say smth like: you have 6 seconds travel time you aim at X units ahead, if you have 12 seconds travel time you aim at 2X units ahead.
See the idea? you have estimate the actual distance that the ship travels in a number of seconds, and that distance you can only correctly estimate using the ship length, for the begining you can estimate this using the units but with experience, you will do this by eye, and you will not look at the numbers. Experienced players do this instinctively, oddly enough they were unable to explain this so far :)
Hey Notser! Greeting from Asian server!
Just try to break through 54% of win rate! And this video is really useful for me! Didn't even know what's the meaning or those numbers and lines besides the cross XD
BTW I am a big fan of IJN DDs, hopefully you will have more games demonstrate IJN DDs! And maybe show us how to aim torps as well!
When shooting at DDs, at least double the lead, usually triple, depending on your speed and if you are traveling in the same, or opposite directions.
A lot of aiming comes from intuition and experience. Aiming also depends on how fast ship is moving, type of ship, whether ship is moving towards or away, and how it is angled.
a follow up video on aiming at turning or ships at angles would be awesome
How do i play training rooms? Sorry Im new to the game
Exactly what @nutluck said, i struggle sometimes with aiming at ships moving away, coming towards me, or in a turn at long range, especially in my battleships. I can adapt with cruisers and DD's ofc as their rate of fire, but with a battleship, you have one chance to hit . Please post a video on that if possible, thanks!
ive been playing this game scince beta and i never knew any of this thx notser love this info will definatly help improve my game
This is all great advice UNLESS you're in a BB, your dispersion is nearing 300, and all that effort you put into your aiming is more like just... a suggestion. There are several videos like this but they're almost always from a cruiser or DD's point-of-view. So what can you say beyond what's in this video if you're running a BB?
I wish the console version had all of those setting options!
Same
10:19 DaaaMage
Playing for 3.5 years and never new the standard reticle was calibrated for 20 knots. I aim by feel. And it shows sometimes. ;) Good video.
Thanks mate, very usefull video ! Especially how to aim with the minimap ;) Also, to see a ship behind an island you can spam M (the map button). The view will go a bit up
Thanks for the help. Cool to see the first RUclips result was someone I already follow on Twitch.
Next Video - Aiming at moving targets. How much times the lead is to be given ?
Assuming targets are going at full speed.. 2× for dd 1.5 × cl and 1× for bb (correct me if I am wrong)
Also there needs to be more types of dynamic cross hairs like static ones. Please raise this issue with developers as I think you Noster are the only CC using dynamic hairs
Agreed mate ! In the old days I used to think that type of aiming formula... but then after the FR CA coming, I feel this formula is abit off... because its scale based on the speed. Then I make some correction with that formula, now I usually put in speed scale like...
40 knot (Like khaba) = 2.5x
Or put it simply, I used to put the exact travel time per ship class like...
For DD (40 knots) = 2x time travel put the point at the edge of the bow
For CA (35 knots) = 1.5x time travel put the point at the citadel, or u can put 1x time travel at the edge of the bow
For BB (30 knots or less) = 1x time travel put the point at the citadel or magazine
And yeah the dynamic reticular lacks of variety, we really need angling line like the static one XD
Idk why people dont talk about this but I also think it helps to turn the water in the minimap to transparent. Then I increase map size to as big as it can get
this is the best video for aiming thanks man
0:18 this is why you are always pulling a Notser
Thanks, brother. Just shared this with all my ICOP friends. Any "how-to" vids you put together will likewise see use by our guys. Much appreciated.
This was a nice refresher course.
I always bad at playing with battleship....always miss...always not pen and do no damage.....for years i dont know how the aim work out....how the shell calculate the range....how the shell calculate the armor pen....this video give me a ray of hope to play as battleship back...all this time i just play as carriers....thanks for the guide....i hope to be a better player using battleship
Thank you for the video I was wanting one of these videos for current patch cause the older videos are kind of outdated
Notser talking about planes of existance like he has a third eye or somthing.
Haha
Thank you. I am a LATE starter in this game (less than a month ago) and, I really appreciate your videos. Good attitude, very neutral observations and being blunt about your observations mistakes and potential ideas during a battle is very informative. Thank you. Between you and, jingles (for different reasons) you guys have the best videos. As a side note.....I understand you are not the game designer but any reason the 180mm is not more widely used? Such a great round and wish it was more wide spread. So leading into my request. Could you do a video on caliber sizes, shell velocity and penetration values in relation to the armor needed? I understand the basics of shell size vs armor value and the basic modifiers of dividing by 4 or 6 (depending on the nation) but is there a different value added on when using shell velocity? I mean.....does the Russian CAs and the Italian CAs get a bonus on penetration values due to SOLELY high velocity values of the shell? I know Germans get the divide by 4 but, I am not grasping how shell velocity adds into the equation or if it is another factor entirely (in game mechanic terms, as, I understand real world values)? I mean...does the, Duca D'aosta have a better penetration (I know it gets more over pens) than another cruiser with the same caliber gun with the divided by 6 modifier? How many mm's does the shell velocity add onto penetration or due to a lower shell velocity detract from the penetration? I mentioned the, Russians as well because of their high velocity shells but the CAs do not get the divided by 4 modifier....so....how are these calculations included in the gam and what is the equation?
Protips: You can use minimap crosshair indicator to shoot at ships spotted by your friendlies in cyclone. You may not see them but you can still hit them if you aim well.
As something of a follow-on, do you have any advice with difficult situations such as the U.S. 6" and 5" shells at range. The target has time to turn around, get a cup of coffee and grab two CAPs before they land. Would you double-click to salvo, which is what I see most of the good players do, or might it be better to click and hold to fire sequentially? It might be better to spread the salvo vertically or horizontally to hedge a course or speed change. Alternatively, dispersion, sigma value, and the apocryphal RNGesus may automatically do that for you.
Excellent video. Played this game for years without knowing about the alternative interface, etc. (Gnarly, wrinkly, stinky potato) I learned some of it a piece at a time through your videos, iChase, Flambass, etc. But this puts a lot of it together.
Thanks for helping out the new guys.
I would like to be able to dismiss the scout airplane. There are times you shoot, then unzoom, and the new ship you want to target is not able to found quickly when you zoom again esp when the new target it close.
If you select the ship (hover shooting cursor over it) before zooming in it will go straight to it. The other way is to press "x" key if it has not been selected near to ship on zoomed out view (this is a toggle so will unselect with x if already selected).
If there are 2 enemy ships close together and the auto select has the one you don't want then "x" key will change it.
this is so much different on consoles, i need to look into the settings some more cause i dont think we have all these options yet. the video was very helpful though thank you
Love this video...required viewing. I've been playing WoWS for about 2 weeks now, and get very frustrated when the weekend vets come out with their Gandalf-like shot wizardry, deleting my ship before I've had a chance to "range-in" my shots.
Great stuff here. Thanks for posting!
Wooow you are the best!! My aim improved 300% thanks habibi :D
aiming at stationary ships is one thing, moving ships totally different matter. aiming has changed quite a lot with all the "default" captain skills, these days. you need to be clairvoyant and guess the right direction a ship will turn once you unleashed your salvo, mostly over are the times where you can just aim at the waterline and score a hit. I have that down ok, my biggest problem is when a ship comes at me at an angle at greater distances, there is a "sweetspot" of angle where aiming for me is a nightmare
Just when i was crying because my aim
i dont know how dynamic reticle works at large distances and from scout aircraft camera, mostly i cut what reticle says in two, for some reason cutting in two works best, even i dont have any precision whatsoever
Now I know why you hit so many islands LMAO
"I pulled a Notser" has become a very well known meme in WoWs.
How about tips on shooting at a kiting Henri with speed boost on at 18km over 2 mountains without a spotter plane
Why not upside down and blindfolded while we're at it? 😉
Have you tried prayer?
Only if he's the last target left. But it can be done.
There is a recent video from Flamu, where he nails a DD from 20km with a Yamato I believe. Could be a Musashi as well.
Aiming with scouts has never been my cup of tea ,thanks for the help
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Thanks notser.. Great job!!!!
Thank you for this. Very useful.
Youare my favorite wow player i will always support you and watch you.Keep it up bro.☺️☺️☺️
I second this!
Wow I thought that the lines meant where to line up at different km ranges. Thx Notser!
I'm having problems aiming with the Musashi. It seems to me that the shell flight time to target indicator (in seconds, the one to the left of the aimpoint) is totally off.
It seems the actual shell flight time is shorter than what the indicator says. For example, if the enemy ship is going at about 30 knots and the indicator says flight time is 14 seconds, then if I give a 14-dot lead on the sight, the shells will actually get there faster and hit the water in front of the enemy ship. Has anyone noticed this? I know the Musashi/Yamato have a pretty fast muzzle velocity but I thought the shell flight time indicator would be scaled to the actual ship you're using at the moment, so shell velocity shouldn't matter. This is something I've only noticed on my Musashi. I have no problems aiming accurately with any other ship.
Great Video!!! Can you link to your other video?
I have a lot of trouble with off angle targets. Moving toward or away from me especially at 45 degrees to, say, 75 degrees. There is no aiming reticule to aid with off angle shots like that, especially on smaller targets. So it's difficult for me to land shots when people are angled on me. Especially in USN cruisers because the shells are so slow and lofty that hitting anything past 12km is for me impossible.
hey thanx for the video !!!! just one question !!! to to align the crossair horizontal line, as in should it be touching the target vsl's hull top section or at the waterline !!! ps i just started and play on PS4 :-) !!!!
Thanks for this video, helps a lot
Hi there Notser, that was a great video about aiming tutorial. I want to ask, how do you aim a ship that is turning towards or away from you ? Obviously you need to reaim, but how specifically ? Can you make a tutorial video about how to aim on ships that heading towards you or turning away from you ? Thanks.
This was really helpful. I think I will have a hard time remembering most of this during a game though
Great stuff, really helpful been playing 5/6 months now and not really understood most of this.
Bit off topic, but what is Free XP used for? Been told not to use it for ships in the tech tree, but if you're short by few thousand why not? Thanks😀
Could you do an updated video on the american cruisers with the new line, like the seattle and worcester
this is very helpful thanks dude
Very helpful stuff, thx a lot, keep it up :)
I only aim waterline if the ship is very very close, like 8km or less. Otherwise with dispersion i always aim for the deck, Because some of the shots will land at waterline.
What irks me is the different nations require different heights of aiming for that citadel. Some you need water line and some you need to aim like 3/4 up the side of the ship.
@mike A I'm not saying it shouldn't be included, I'm just saying I have difficulty learning this. Perhaps I worded the initial comment incorrectly.
Top notch info thank you.
mrdragonfell. Been playing for 3 years this was dope. I have never used the mini map to this level of detail.
love the videos and streams
Thank you for making this!!!!!
Add the best settings for captains and ships, best modules according the ships and captains
I'm on the PS4 and I can only get a crappy type of crosshair on my gun cam. I can't seem to get a dynamic crosshair that has actual numbers denoting the seconds along the x- axis like 5,10,15 etc.
I honestly find it a bit too timeconsuming in a lot of situations to double check the lead indicator.
Its much more effective to learn to do it by intuition alone, of course that brings other problems, for example if you switch to a ship with different shell velocities and shell trajectories. But its not hard to learn and to adapt.
A much needed video would be about WoWs economics, including when the best time to purchase Premium time. Tired of buying premium and several days - weeks later it goes on sale for 20% off.
Very good notser.
Great pointers (hehe) for a noob who's played for 1 day so far. Thanks!
(NOTSER) can you make a video on if you guns can pen another ship like how the math is figured out if the caliber of your gun can penetrate the enemy BB or CL or what ever your fighting. But how can some tell if you should be using AP on the ship or if your H.E. can pen it. Because people don't know if its a good idea to shoot at the hull or to shoot at the superstructure I have been noticing. So maybe people need a little bit of help with that kind of stuff. Because I know there is a mathematical equation and solution to figuring it out but I myself forget what it is to figure out if my ships can pen another ship.
Hey Notser how to turn on ship direction indicator? And how to make this circle crosshair indicator on minimap (mine looks like X, not like O) ?