Very good info for the Chinese Flankers, however there's a new Chinese Flanker were already made. The J-15S is the 2-seater version of the J-15 which is the only operational 2-seater Naval Flanker. There's also the J-15D, like the J-16D were a Chinese version of the Growler, the J-15D were also another Growler type Flanker without having IRST & Gun.
I think the J-11b is dropping next it wouldn't make much since to drop the A since the j8f is getting PL-12. I am baseing this off of how they added the J8 and J7 series.
I have a corsair mouse and some cheapo keyboard, can't remember off the top of my hear which model for each to be honest. The corsair does have 2 side buttons. As for controls, there's far far too many to really go over in detail, anything in specific?
I would like to give an opinion (or clarifications i guess) on this, so first of all the J11D variant never entered service and eventually it was a test bed/stop gap during the development of the J20 in case of major bumps and issues with that program, ofc since there weren't such issues the J11D never came to be. Despite that, it wasn't "useless" since its technology found its place in what eventually became the J15B. The other point that i want to make is that technically the J16 covers more of a true multirole, it doesn't lack in Air to Air at all, it is supposed to be the main heavy slinger of missiles for the PLA but can also fully function as a strike version. I wouldn't compare it to the F15E since the latter has an air to ground role (this does not mean that the F15E cannot take on Air targets, simply its focus is ground). I would instead compare the J16D to the F15E since it loses the IRST and the gun to gain space for electronic equipment, all pointing towards a focus on ground strikes.
I was actually recently looking at the loadouts the Su-30 and Su-35 can carry and I'm just blown away by the latter supposedly being able to carry TWELVE R-77s along with 2 R-73s. I've noticed a lot of content creators have gripes with the current 16v16 air RB matches, most notably complaints like flight performance of the jet and individual skill not being as important. Though I personally don't get how going down to somewhere between 6v6 and 12v12 as we move into the Fox-3 era isn't going to make that problem worse than it is right now.
Idk if Gaijin would agree with the BR placements it's probably not compressed enough. If it's not at least 10,000psi it's not enough. Truly a major oversight Lee. Beyond the aforementioned egregious flaw: These are fun vids. Especially on the more obscure things like China's air force. Would be fun to do Japan maybe? Possibly simpler and not as obscure but at the same time.... most everyone really only knows the F-2. Maybe discussing why it's not "just an F-16" could work if we're just talking about it lol
@@GeneralLee2000 The first export variant J-11's (Su-27SK's) china acquired that were untouched and remained 100% soviet were capable of using PL-12s WHICH is the J-11 we have in-game. That is my point. If you did mention this I missed it and that is my apologies!
Nice video, i really appreciate the time took to research all this info, especially when related to WT. I would only wish you could maintain one of the tech tree cards of the vehicle being talked about found in 0:19 on screen. It may just be my ADD brain, but it's sometimes hard to remember which vehicle is being discussed. Thanks again :)
I was under the impression that the MICA would be the best ARH missile next update, not the pl-12. Do you think they’re gonna nerf it like the magic 2 or is it just worse?
@@Iden_in_the_Rain when I joined the test I was expecting the aim120a to be the worse because it's such an early missile compared to the rest, maybe they had aim120c performance? Anyway this is a russian game so we know how it will end up
@@subjectc7505 That makes them plenty different though. Modern Chinese Flankers share nothing with modern Russian Flankers except the shape of the airframe.
It's very much a money thing... it might not feel like it but Russia's economy is barely larger than China's richest province and there are two provinces in China at that scale.
@@EPsuperFanThey have different priorities, Russia typically operates within SAM Coverage, so LO isn't their top priority. China has a somewhat Western doctrine, and since they're good at stealing data it's possible for them.
both this and the su27 are insanely broken and shouldn't be in the game. the r73's are cracked op and ignore almost all flares thrown out, I have no idea why Gaijin (in all their glorious wisdom) thought pinning this thing against 11.7's was fair, but they are russian I guess, not the brightest bunch
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China flankers are pretty cool
Typhoon video next please
agreed i would love to see the typhoon series
Not sure if next but I will cover it for sure
@@GeneralLee2000I’m only interested if it’s the WW2 hawker typhoon 😅
That first quad feed was crazy. Had to rewind a few times 🔥
o7 appreciate it :)
Very good info for the Chinese Flankers, however there's a new Chinese Flanker were already made. The J-15S is the 2-seater version of the J-15 which is the only operational 2-seater Naval Flanker. There's also the J-15D, like the J-16D were a Chinese version of the Growler, the J-15D were also another Growler type Flanker without having IRST & Gun.
Please do a what to expect video on the Japanese as a whole, as I can count their aircraft on one hand!
(F-2A/B, F-15J, F-15DJ, and F-15J Kai.)
I'll keep that in mind :)
im excited for j11b :)
It's gonna be nuts
Flanker? I hardly know her!
So true!
I love these videos. Gotta be some of your best work. Can’t wait for an F-18 one when it gets released (hopefully this year)
Thanks man! I really appreciate it!
F-18 Hornet video?
That's coming relatively soon.
On the docket
Do you think we'll be seeing that sexy J-10 in game soon? Seems like it wouldn't be a bad plane for early spamraams from what I've seen
Probably in one of the fall patches, I dont see it happening this summer
It could have already come, honestly the J-10A should have come instead of the J-8F but ya know...
He he, he said sim enjoyers 😏
I really like the voice warning system on this aircraft
The j11a never got the upgraded radar 😢😢
Gaijin butchered the j11a so hard, should be on par with su27sm but isnt for some reason
how dare you spread Chinese propaganda without me 😭😭😭 j10a better come next update ong
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wait shit this is anti chinese propaganda
Indeed man, J-10 with PL-8B's and PL-12's would go hard.
@@mehmetbozkurt3274 Ong it should have come instead of the J8F, could have used pl8 and aspides and added pl12s later
I think the J-11b is dropping next it wouldn't make much since to drop the A since the j8f is getting PL-12. I am baseing this off of how they added the J8 and J7 series.
They should've just added the B
General Lee is underrated. For example, Really good vibez(I know it’s vague but I dont know how to describe it)
Hahaha, thanks bro :)
Off topic, but how long until gaijin tried to introduce the mig 25 and su 15?
China is gonna be op if they give actual longest range fox 3
This is why I'm excited for the Flankers, especially Chinese Flankers, since China made proper upgrades unlike Russia.
Does also somebody find it really difficult to fly the first J-11? I m a good pilot but this one plane really keeps me suffering...
hey I was in the same sim game as you (Sinai 8.7-9.7) but I realized that when you had already left lol
Can’t wait for Su-33 and J-15 just hope they add the Kuznetsov or Shandong
Thanks Lee, your content is great. I'm curious as to what your keyboard/mouse setup is (hardware & controls). Cheers mate.
I have a corsair mouse and some cheapo keyboard, can't remember off the top of my hear which model for each to be honest. The corsair does have 2 side buttons. As for controls, there's far far too many to really go over in detail, anything in specific?
Make a video on eurofighter typhoon too pls
Eventually :)
When do you think we'll get F-15C/D/E/EX?
I need mfd screen I need mfd screen I need mfd screen I need mfd screen
Sim player
After j-10 is added can we see a video about its variants
chine frankels always pair with russia, ez win
Very ironic that I’m researching this aircraft very soon lmao, after i finish this I only have the rest of rank 7-8 Britain and I’m done with ALL air
I would like to give an opinion (or clarifications i guess) on this, so first of all the J11D variant never entered service and eventually it was a test bed/stop gap during the development of the J20 in case of major bumps and issues with that program, ofc since there weren't such issues the J11D never came to be. Despite that, it wasn't "useless" since its technology found its place in what eventually became the J15B.
The other point that i want to make is that technically the J16 covers more of a true multirole, it doesn't lack in Air to Air at all, it is supposed to be the main heavy slinger of missiles for the PLA but can also fully function as a strike version. I wouldn't compare it to the F15E since the latter has an air to ground role (this does not mean that the F15E cannot take on Air targets, simply its focus is ground). I would instead compare the J16D to the F15E since it loses the IRST and the gun to gain space for electronic equipment, all pointing towards a focus on ground strikes.
I was actually recently looking at the loadouts the Su-30 and Su-35 can carry and I'm just blown away by the latter supposedly being able to carry TWELVE R-77s along with 2 R-73s. I've noticed a lot of content creators have gripes with the current 16v16 air RB matches, most notably complaints like flight performance of the jet and individual skill not being as important. Though I personally don't get how going down to somewhere between 6v6 and 12v12 as we move into the Fox-3 era isn't going to make that problem worse than it is right now.
I've heard from an irl f18 pilot that the j16 is more technologically advanced than the su35. Anyway, thanks for the vid
when are we getting the big update with fox 3s ?
Idk if Gaijin would agree with the BR placements it's probably not compressed enough. If it's not at least 10,000psi it's not enough. Truly a major oversight Lee.
Beyond the aforementioned egregious flaw: These are fun vids. Especially on the more obscure things like China's air force. Would be fun to do Japan maybe? Possibly simpler and not as obscure but at the same time.... most everyone really only knows the F-2. Maybe discussing why it's not "just an F-16" could work if we're just talking about it lol
TRUUUUUUUE. Also yeah, they're a lot of work but enjoyable to make. I'll consider Japan next :)
just give me the su33 rip off with the chinese warning voice and im golden. also, mandatory Sim spelling for mentioning SIm
EVIL. Also yeah the Su-33 ripoff is cool
Just gonna be more bs r27 spam.
I love flankers so much
could do this with every tech trees future aircraft?
Very possible :)
I’m the 5000th viewer wow 😃
youre at least 40
The J-11 ingame should get PL-12s this upcoming patch so lets seee.
did you watch the video at all
@@GeneralLee2000
The first export variant J-11's (Su-27SK's) china acquired that were untouched and remained 100% soviet were capable of using PL-12s WHICH is the J-11 we have in-game.
That is my point.
If you did mention this I missed it and that is my apologies!
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Pin it bro
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Nice video, i really appreciate the time took to research all this info, especially when related to WT. I would only wish you could maintain one of the tech tree cards of the vehicle being talked about found in 0:19 on screen. It may just be my ADD brain, but it's sometimes hard to remember which vehicle is being discussed. Thanks again :)
I'll keep that in mind for next time! I appreciate the compliment though, I wanted to pull my hair out trying to find info on this stuff ahaha
Same video but with mirages and rafales after?
Possibly?
Oh boy the repair costs are going to be like 1 mil each time lmao
Muh Flanker
True!
Obviously I expect 100% copypaste
Russia gave China permission to produce their own Flankers 🤦🏽♂️.
You should do one of these for the F18
Planned!
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Now you can stop asking me about it every stream 🤣
I was under the impression that the MICA would be the best ARH missile next update, not the pl-12. Do you think they’re gonna nerf it like the magic 2 or is it just worse?
Idk, on the fox3 test pl12 was the worse and amraam the best/ most consistent. Mica was nice for close ranges tho
@@HighRiskVin the live servers, the R77 will be the best followed by the PL-12, MICA, then AIM-120A. Gaijin can’t have NATO stuff be good
MICA will be great at short ranges but when it comes to long range it is worst
@@Iden_in_the_Rain when I joined the test I was expecting the aim120a to be the worse because it's such an early missile compared to the rest, maybe they had aim120c performance? Anyway this is a russian game so we know how it will end up
@@HighRiskVplease enlighten us.
Wassup lee?
Yo wassup?
Eurofighter video please
Planned :)
@@GeneralLee2000 thankyou ❤
It's just a normal flanker with Chinese equipment, it's pretty no different in them.
weight reduction , engines and radar should make a difference
@@ferrous3262 That's what I said, it's just Chinese equipment. It's no different than a normal flanker.
@@subjectc7505 That makes them plenty different though. Modern Chinese Flankers share nothing with modern Russian Flankers except the shape of the airframe.
the missiles are different tho
I like how China actually uses ram unlike Russia which just uses paint
It's very much a money thing... it might not feel like it but Russia's economy is barely larger than China's richest province and there are two provinces in China at that scale.
@@EPsuperFanThey have different priorities, Russia typically operates within SAM Coverage, so LO isn't their top priority. China has a somewhat Western doctrine, and since they're good at stealing data it's possible for them.
I wish war thunder never added air to air missiles, just top tier gun dogfighting
Problem with that is that one or two planes (f16 and gripen) would totally rule the entire matchmaker lol
no, that would destroy what war thunder is... we rather need a game mode for top tier of just dogfighting.
both this and the su27 are insanely broken and shouldn't be in the game. the r73's are cracked op and ignore almost all flares thrown out, I have no idea why Gaijin (in all their glorious wisdom) thought pinning this thing against 11.7's was fair, but they are russian I guess, not the brightest bunch
Womp womp
This is from a guy who plays the F15
Immagine if they made the su27 flight performance accurate
Ur just bad the su-27 can’t dogfight it’s easy to kill the r73 is easy to flare