PETZL RL SWIFT HEADLAMP - Why I would never buy it again
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- PETZL RL SWIFT HEADLAMP - Why I would never buy it again
This is to steer you away from this 120 headlamp. Go with the Petzl Actik Core headlamp instead.
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Hi, Petzl RL is not for “reading book or not blind other people when campfire”, it is for trail running, hiking or skiing. And i can say that it fulfills all this brilliantly.
Yupp, I use it for night bike riding/camping/working at night
What for do you need reactive light?
Camp. Interacting with other people at night. 🤷🏼♂️. They made it so there must be a need! 😂😂😂😂
@@YankeeTankerOutdoors : LOL.. you spend 100 plus dollars JUST "to interact with other people". dumb. just plain dumb.
Why don’t you just turn the RL off. I like the RL and if it dims at wrong time I simply push a button.
Highly Recommended for serious athletes! Just wore this throughout the night for the Leadville 100 Run. Flipped between low and medium on the more technically trails all on reactive light mode. Can’t recommend this light enough if you’re moving through mountainous terrain at a quick clip. Using this light between 8pm-5am, I still had 2/5 bars left on battery life.
I talked to Petzl at the race expo and they said the next generation of this light will be 200 lumens brighter, have a longer batter life in RL mode, USB C charger, and improved accelerometer to help with the dimming feature.
Look, if you’re just going to use this light to dink around campsites with short walks on trails, save your money. And either wait for more advanced RL technology, or skip it all together and just buy a cheaper light that has high lumens and great battery life.
During the winter, I’ll be using this for early morning skimo sessions and continue to use this on late night mountain runs…so I’ll be getting my moneys worth out of it.
ABSOLUTELY.
Had a Swift RL for at least two years now and it's my go to every time. I have another petzl head torch with dimming and a LED Lenser one. but I pick up this one every time. I use it for everything, hillwalking, camping, dog walking, diy. If it broke tomorrow I'd go buy another one straight away. The only downside is the strap tends to fall apart at the front sides, I'm on my second strap and it now could do with being replaced. Love this torch.
One of the best lights I've ever used, and I've had loads of different headlamps/headtorches over the years from many manufacturers.
The reactiv tech is amazing imo. I actually wouldn’t recommend buying a product without it (the iko core for instance). It’s really designed for glancing at maps while running, orienteering etc. With any other torch you’re basically blinding after looking at something white and you can’t properly run again until your eyes recover. The Swift rl is my go to recommendation for trail and fell runners.
yeap the youtuber here just wants to baitclick with the title... He doesnt make any sense with what he says...
What are you talking about sweetheart?
You can actually turn off the reactive lighting mode by long pressing the switch button when the light/lamp is on, i have this headlamp too and it's great.
He didn't know that. Doing a review without checking the manual properly isn't the msartest idea ever.
You can switch of the reactive lighting just need to hold the button in 🤷♂️
I have a lot of Petzl headlamps, this one is the best. I used it a lot for night running, night climbing (even in winter) and night mountain biking. RL is awesome when you climb technical sections during the night, especially in winter, because you can see the rock/ice/snow in front of you with the best amount of light without going blind and if you look at a longer distance it adapts imediately without the need to use the button which is awesome if you have two ice axes in hands. RL helps a lot your night vision, because your eyes don't need to adapt as you say, and if you are doing an activity wich requires speed, as running or cycling, RL means safety, because you can react faster. I have the previous models, with bluetooth and app setup - never used. I also never used SOS red light until now, and continuous red light only in a couple of situations just to save battery. I use Swift RL in RL mode, switching on continuos light only in a couple of situations, for example to save battery. It is simple, light, reliable and safe for night activities, when good vision can make the difference between life and death. The only issue I had is the strap which tends to unravel at the edges: i bought a new one, after 6 months I had the same problem. RL is also great if you run in the city, in Romania we have poor lighting in parks: for example 50 meters with a lot of light, aftrr that 100 without any light. RL is also good in groups - it is annoying to adjust the light any time when you look at someone, and if you make mountain activities with someone wo also have RL technology, you can feel te difference: I used many times my Petzl for an entire night in RL-maximum power without touching the headlamp for hours, which is awesome.
Agreed.
My comment keeps getting deleted. So trying here....
I love my RL Swift. Reactive light can be turned off , so whats the deal ? Love RL , saves on runtime and unnecessary blinding. RL Swift has specific features for specific scenarios/purposes and I would not call it inferior product. Vought it for around 87€.
I don't want to deal with triple AAA batteries. AAA -> Less capacity ,less energy density , less power , voltage drop and other nuances. Li-Ion battery is much better I can charge it with solar or powerbank or even can charge the battery off the headlamp , the microUSB port is integrated into it ! No need for dedicated charger. If you have a spare you are golden. 900lumens would be impossible with AAA batteries. The battery should last about 250 cycles until x percent [check Petzl website] which is 250*3 AAA = 750 AAA batteries if not rechargeable. So yeah this little lithium pack is more ECO friendly and charges faster and performs better than AAA. ;) I think you dont really understand the technology behind it. But hey....
CHEERS MATE! FINALLY SOMONE WHO MAKES REAL SENSE IN HERE.
How long last the acc on continuous 900 lumens?
Hello, you can start the reactive lighting by locking it. Also, it’s specially made for Trail running not for camping.
As others have said, I have a swift RL and I love it. Only thing I would change is the micro USB to a USB c. I use mine for everything, running, climbing, around camp. Seems to me to be the pinnacle (so far) of petzl headtorch development (my first was the old zoom in the mid nineties!).
got the 2024 model and it has USB-C
It’s a great all round light useful for all kinds of situations. You can bypass the RL feature using long press so it does it all.
With all due respect Matt, this is a headlamp designed for mountaineering, not for reading to your daughter. A 20 dollar amazon headlamp will fulfill your needs.
I have this light and think it is great. I have not had the dimming problems you have had. For me it dims correctly to stop the light shining back at me off objects and have found it good for night skiing and night running. For those faster night time activities I find the higher lumen necessary and much better than my wife's reactik+ (the larger version of the core you showed in the video)
The lack of red light is a real disappointment though.
hey Yankee Tanker. hold ON button for 2 sec. and you will have normal mode without dimming. this torch is great, from me no complaints.
for real? Hold please.. I need to know how big of an idiot I am lol
@@0utcast shhhh... its gonna be ok pumpkin..
Just turn off reactive mode if you don‘t want it to dim…
Cost for battery spare may be an issue, but the swift battery 2x capacity of the core. To me, cycling to off is trivial issue, I’m more concerned about lack of charge port cover. And you can just decide mode when you turn on. Quick press for reactive, one second press for standard. Simple.
This is the whole point about reactive lighting... This isn't about you don't blind other, it's about to not blind your self. Granted, by sitting in your camp this isn't that much of a problem but if you skiing or trailrunning you need as much range you can get but the problem is, if you watch closer things with 900lm especially on bright things like snow, will blind you and creates an extremely dangerous potentially even lethal situation in wich you aren't able to see where you going. So only because you use the lamp for the wrong use case, it's not inferior per se. Also the RL function can be simply switched off by pressing the button for more than two seconds. After about one second, one LED will turn off or on depending in wich mode you were before and if you further hold the button it will switch RL on/off. Personally i would like it to have some feedback in form of a blink or so to indicate you switched RL but that's not enough to say it's just an inferior overpriced piece of crap. Know your gear.
Nice review, I own it also, but I like it very much. I agree about red light and turning the battery off. My friend have core, I would take swift rl anytime over core. Swift is almost double lumen and battery is better.
The point of the reactive lighting is this- You need more lumens to look at something far away than you do to look at something nearby. Look at the ground in front of your feet at 900 lumens and it will be too bright to make out any detail. Look at your feet at 100 lumens and you will be able to make out every detail.
You can switch to manual and turn the reactive function off if you want.
I use a reactik +, which was replaced for me free to replace my tikka RXP after it fried in the rain. It's basically just the newer version of the tikka but with Bluetooth. It doesn't use the small rechargeable battery it uses the large one that clips directly in that has more mAh. if you can't see the book, theres something wrong with your eyes. The dimming is for looking at maps so you don't blind yourself on the paper and I love it. I've also used them at work for years when I use a clip board but also need to look far away. You can make your own settings in an app. It has replaced all other flashlights or headlamps for me. I even use it for remodeling. And yes turning it off does use more battery life as you're using more power for more light, duh.
I like the lock on the power switch no chance of been knocked on by accident
My petzl tikka rxp still running.Only manual mode not work,but still work reactive mode.I just put tape to the sensor.
You just saved a bunch of people from disappointment. Thanks
Go with the Actik. Get two core batteries for the price of the RL.
I don't know how the swift RL behaves, but I own a reactik+ since 5 years and it's amazing for fishing where you constantly switch between distance and your surroundings. The only thing I have about it is the proprietary accumulator which failed and I had to hack it and replace the battery. Moreover, reactik+ had the option to switch between the auto-adjustable mode and constant output based on user setting, so the issue Yankee Tanker is having with Swift - gone.
You do know you can turn it of and have 900 lemuns on all time
900 lemuns :'D
That's what I said
@@stehaslam8234 🍋🍋🍋🍋🍋
From looking at the specs of the light, I highly doubt it can maintain 900 lumens for very long.
Nope. 900 lumens is only in reactive, turning to constant lighting it has a max of 550 lumens.
The reactive function is useful for extending battery life, as the function adapts to ambient light, meaning that it isn’t wasting battery on a high lumen setting when not needed.
I think the higher price is reasonable considering the 900 lumen output (although I think this is only available in reactive mode - @ 2.5 hours). Otherwise the max output on the static setting is 550 lumen (@ 2 hours).
Whereas the Actik Core has a max 450 lumen @ 2 hours run time. Doesn’t have the option of reactive lighting and only tilts down, not both ways (useful for not blinding people in a group or shift the light without turning off).
Both good head torches, just different. 🤷🏻♂️
Have you ran with the light?
I wish petzl made a fully waterproof actik core
Can't you just switch to standard mode? Also, it does have red light. Or did they introduce these new features later? Watching this in 2024...
you can - but it takes a few clicks to get there.
The reactive feature is amazing! if I don't want it to dim I will simply just turn it on without the reactive feature on it can do both.
Hello Yankee. I have the old Tikka RXP and I also have the 1500 lm Nao RL. The reactive technology is awesome when running in woods or hiking in Alpes... But YOU CAN JUST TURN IT OFF... even more awesome yeah?
Why would I have my headlamp on if I was sitting around a campfire?
press and hold power button for 2 seconds.. and RL is off..
Also, you can turn off the RL function by holding the button.
And also, you can put tape over the sensor to cancel its functionality.
we already covered that and proved that I am an idiot lol
@@YankeeTankerOutdoors Nah! You made a very important point. Changing modes is not intuitive in this model. I also have these 2 models and I use the Actik more than the new one, it is lighter
Thank you for opinion!
Hold the button to turn it off. it will then come back on on the latest setting. If you want the brightness, that your eyes are adapted to, you do need the dimming function when light is bouncing back.
Sorry but will have to disagree with this. I've been using the old model for years and today bought the new 1100 swift rl. Is absolutely amazing. You can use this in normal mode if you find it too annoying in some situations but for climbing and mountaineering is spot on. I don't have to keep pressing buttons all the time. The new model is now USB C so even better.
sound to me like you didn't do your home work before you brought it, it meant for running, hiking and general activities at night, you should have got a different model, I think this is the best model they've done for what it designed for.
I just want them to bring the Zipka back! Red light is essential imo too
IMO, the reactive lighting is great for being out and about on the trail or wherever at night, or you can turn off reactive if you don't enjoy it. Cycling through all the modes before it turns off is pretty annoying tho.
The problem here is you bought the wrong head torch for the wrong job. It’s designed for runners. The reactive lighting is great for night running when you go from a busy road with good street lighting to a dark trail with no ambient lighting at all and vice versa. You save burn time on the battery as it dims automatically when environment is lighter.
It wasn’t designed for reading books or pottering around a camp site, although if you don’t like reactive lighting in these situations I don’t understand why you cannot just use it in the standard constant mode instead of reactive mode? That way it won’t dim automatically, which I think is what you are moaning about?
Instead of trashing a perfectly good runners torch, I would suggest just doing your research better in future and buying the right tool for the job
Best trail running torch on the market. Bar none.
All very good points! And I would rather have the red for when I'm hunting elk hunting elk .
I used it hunting this year and it worked excellent.
good to know
ProTip: put a small peace of black elektrical tape on the lightsensor. No anoying automatic adjustment anymore.
Pro Tip: Turn off the Auto Adjust by following the instructions in the manual.
I don’t think you could me more wrong, sorry but it works perfectly for its application. When I find the RL gets annoying(like you stated and sometimes warm breath in certain temps) I turn off a RL and toggle to the lowest setting which does conserve battery life.
Even if it does blind people in front of you can’t you just angle it down towards the ground like I’ve done for yrs with other headlamps?
This review is BS. This is not a headlamp for reading books, but for outdoors, with a brilliant reactive function
shhh... the adults are talking..
How long have you used it ??
Real reason for RL to save battery and reduce weight.
Good advice.. when u are out in mountains for weeks far away from anything... (yeah been there) ... good with ability to run AAA on the core
You can turn the RL option off tho?
Yes you can. However if you are just using it as a normal headlamp you can get a better one for cheaper.
@@YankeeTankerOutdoors but why would you want constant lighting if objects are closer to you? If they're closer you would require less light to have the same visual on the object. I find it very useful because if I hiking during the night I dont have to lower the lamp if I enter technical section where I am rock climbing and the rock is close to my face
@@ivangochev2950 I can see how some would like it.. Probably cause my eyes are shit is why I do not like it. Im too old - but you do have a vaild point!
My eyes suck. Take too long to adjust at night. I need bright light on everything to see.
The 2024 model HAS red light! The 2024 lets you change the Bpack for normal batteries! This is a perfect headlamp for camping and or Hiking, running, basically all outdoor stuff.
Can you use AAA batteries with the 2024 model?
@@2rocshipsorry that was a mistake. You cannot.
Just bought this for $80 on sale and its very good lamp, all of these things are not so important for me, its still very good lamp !
yes it is
You can turn off the sensor. Dan you do not have the problem and always they same brightness.
Thank you for your review! I had for years the taktikka+ and will renew because it works for only 40 Euros.
Completely wrong take on the reactive lighting tech. It's intuitive and extremely useful. I won't buy a headlamp without it.
And if you don't like it, you can use the light in regular mode.
Poor review.
I totally agree, nailed it!
Dude… did you even read the manual? 😂
So, you bought the wrong headlamp for your use case scenario and now you're telling other people not to buy it? Makes sense... not.
Its for trail running, hiking etc. Not for a campsite
Don’t know if mine is a defect or operator error, but I used it one time and it worked great, come hone cleaned it, tried to use it again a few weeks later and it won’t turn on.
Did you lock it?
@@0utcast 🤝
I'm about buy A PETZL Swift RL for £67,
$120 is somewhat excessive I would Not fork out.
No offense dude, but your complaints are ridiculous.
The reactive lighting sounds like a bad idea, but you can then the feature off. And since there are only 2-3 different settings for the light intensity, pressing the power button three times to turn the light off isn’t a problem unless you are the laziest human being on the planet.
And to compare this product to a Petzl Actic Core lamp that produces only 300 lumens is just plain silly. One headlamp produces way more light than the other. They are radically different products. Justifying your comparison by saying that “300 lumens is enough in the dark” is downright intellectually lazy on your part. More lumens, as you may (or may not) know, means not only brighter light, but greater range. Some people like having things further away illuminated.
And yes, the battery running down quickly is part of life, but at least the RL gives you the option to have more light when you need it.
The RL is ideal for night skiing.
You see, I like the cycling to switch off! It annoys me with non-cycling lamps that when you need a bit more brightness, it first switches off and then you have to cycle through past the brightness you were on in the first place to be where you want to be!
I find the RL to be at its most useful when you have to read a map on the go and can do so without dazzling yourself or fiddling with your brightness settings.
The headband I find comfortable and stable. Yes, it does slacken off over time, but it is so easy to adjust and tighten, I don't find it a problem.
I'm with you on the tactile feel of the switch. It does feel flimsy on a headlamp of this price.
Overall, I am very pleased with mine.
Welcome back buddy!! 👍👍
Thanks man
irelevantná recenzia. Matt sa dostatočne nezoznámil s produktom. Ak sa niekomu smievanie nepáči, môže tutp funkciu jednoducho vypnúť.😀
You can operate without RL. Sorry, I disagree. This is a very great lamp, Actik. You can't be serious.
Regarding reactive lightning - Read manual
Manuals are for squares. 😂😂
Its great,, no problems here
I just bought another old actik core 450 lumen had good luck with last one 6 years but rubber button worn away, haven't heard anything about the new actik core 600L as far as quality?
I am curios as well. Might pick one up today.
I disagree the SWIFT RL is a good light and well built. depends what you want to do with it.
He has a point though… can you turn off that feature? I need a head light as my route takes me into the night sometimes especially in the winter and I need an easy to push button with winter gloves on
You have 3 standard modes and 3 with RL
* and the lack of SOS red light? I doubt any of you guys are going to expedition to Alaska. You dont need it.
lol
Can you get a spare battery for it?
not totally sure
@@0utcast I got the the light for spotting fish in really dark rivers at night and its great for that, but camping and running are out with this light. I will not spend $50 on a spare battary , it should charge off a portable battary but Petzel want you buying the spare, FORGET IT!!!
I have personally used this and the Swift RL Pro for the past 3 years and highly recommend both models. For trail running, hiking, working on the car @ night, you name it. Works flawlessly. Wasted 6:28 min of my life watching this video.
Have you done a video review of Petzl PIXA 2 Pro Headlamp?
I don't think this was designed for people sitting on their ass while being considerate to others at the campfire.
I feel like active outdoor activities is what they were aiming for.
totally agree, its for moving...............
Единственный грамотный и развернутый обзор на этот фонарик на всем ютубе
Great review, spot on for sure, thank you for posting!
Definitely kicking myself for not verifying if the RL had an Auxiliary Red/Green Light setting prior to purchasing.
However, for $120+, I thought it was a no doubter. I have a few cheapo-gas stations lamps equipped with the Aux light. Curious to know if there is a logical explanation as to why not……?
id recommend the black diamond storm 400. ive used it relentlesly for the past 2 years and id say i used it 5 days out of the week. the best part is that it uses AAA batteries, and the battery lasted me an entire summer last year using it every night for biking. i dislike rechargable headlamps as the battery usually is worse
I've had my BD spot 300 for 5 or 6 years and it's been amazing for bushcraft, trail or night running ect.
Just overall a great idea investment for $30
The none rechargeable route is expensive and tedious and you need to but new batteries after every 2 or 3 hours of use. No ways the batteries lasted you an entire summer unless you used the headlamp for very short periods or your summer was 2 hours long 😂 I was running with the Black diamond cosmo and needed to change batteries twice a week.
You can turn the reactive off.
Is this waterproof
to a certain depth - showers of rain fine - waterfalls fine wouldn't scuba dive with it lol
Wow. Just turn off the reactive feature if you don’t care for it or don’t need it, turn it on when you do. 🤦♀️
Led lenser is king of light
You should probably know how to actually use the headlamp and the light settings before doing a review.
sorry my parents only had kids who lived.. not some square.. get bent..
The worst part about Petzl is the constant cycling through countless modes to turn off and on
that is hands down the worst part about this model!
Very good review. I was going to buy Petzl RL swift before i saw this video.
But i change mine mind now. Thanks.
I seriously think that the Actik is such a better buy.. You could actually buy 2 core batteries and the headlamp for the cost of one RL
This review is bad. You don’t have the name of the product right (it is not “RL Swift”), and you don’t seem to understand what this product is intended for
wow. super helpful and never would have guessed.
Long story short, if you’re a lazy slob that hikes 30’ from his over-accessorized truck to his 3 bedroom tent, this light is not for you.
If there's anything that needs to cut down on 'weight' its YOU my guy. So now that you've spent 100 plus dollars on a lamp used by Ultra Marathoners. That should hopefully inspire you to go for a run. You say you hike? I doubt that highly since all you do is complain about a lamp that's not intended for "social use".
This Video is proof you shouldn’t listen to RUclipsrs .
I'm sure Now he's Not Aware that The Reactive Lighting Can be
turned off/On.
As they say, Not to bright.🙈🙉🙊
I don't think it's 900 lumens
You really need to check your product before reviewing. The reactive lighting can be easily turned off into normal mode. I am a hiker and this is an awesome light, better than my previous Ledlenser. It is lightweight, easy to use and very user friendly. Your review is misleading and incorrect. I hope people read more reviews than this one! 👎
You can turn the Dimming Mode off.
It is not for stupid people
Got mine for 68 bucks
All the things you are moaning about is stuff you could have looked up before buying. This lamp is not made for reading a book. This complain is about as stupid as buying a Ferrari and complaning that you cannot go offroad with it. I own the RL swift for running, and I just love it.
Swift Rl spot uzak atışlarda iyimi bende actik core 450 var 50 metreden sonrasını göremiiyorum üretici 100 metreden bahsediyor ama 450 lümen güç olsa bile uzak odak dış yansıtıcı tasarım yüzünden uzağa malesef seçici atış yapamıyor karışım hüzme yüzünden bence bu bir tasarım hatasıdır ben lambamı seviyorum ama çok karanlık bir yoldan dönerken 450 lümenle uzağı görememek bence kusurdur aynıca geniş aydınlatma çok başarılı ama 2.spot ışığın malesef uzak odakta hiç tatminkar değil .
Petzl Swift Rl Pro Bu modelin üzerine kırmızı ışık ekleyerek 4 . modu dahil ederek piyasaya sürdü ve tasarım birebir aynı merak ediyorum 450 lümen actik fara göre uzun hüzmenin dış reflektörü farklıdır gerçekten uzağa iyi atış yapabiliyormu satın almaya değermi Emin Değilim
Ayrıca Dİğer Üreticiler ıp66 sertifikaya sahipken petzl neden ısrarla basit kırılgan malzeme kullanımda ısrar ediyor anlamak mümkün değil ayrıca Swift Rl Pro kızmızı ışık eklentisi varken bir SOS koymayı akıl etmemiş olmaları fiyasko ben mesela sisli havalarda yol koşusu yaparken karşıdan gelen araçlara uyarı niteliğinde çok ihtiyaç duyuyorum petzl far tasarımında güzel işler çıkarıyor ama eksiklerde mevcut ve farları güncelleme revizyon için çok yavaşlar aynı modellerin benzerlerini üreterek ayrıcalık kazandıklarını sanıyorlar fakat reactif mod dışında kasanın sağlamlığını ve spot farın uzaktaki başarısı hedefe net parlak atış yapması gerekir
Yes, he is talking nonsense.
Yeah. What he said. 🤦♂️
I like Petzl. I was very very disappointed, however, by Black Diamond Storm 375 - lens cracked for no particular reason and there is a design flaw , because of which the fourth battery is incredibly difficult to remove without any sort of tool.
Black diamond spot is awesome
only bought one Petzl head torch. Never again. Cheapest elasticated head band ever!! Utter garbage. Stretched beyond adjustment. Attached to my m/bike now as a spare.
Why would I turn on the red light when sitting by a campfire with friends? 😂