I'm a Sri Lankan who had the privilege of travelling all over Bangladesh during my 5 year career there. When I returned to Sri Lanka just a week before the 2024 elections, I predicted to my Bengali friends that the situation in Sri Lanka would be mirrored in Bangladesh, even without the opposition's support, because I observed the people were so angry at the lack of tolerance for alternative views and the extreme corruption under the Hasina regime. This is the most balanced discussion I've seen by a group of Indians who truly understand the ground realities. Best wishes to my Bengali friends for a better future after enduring prolonged oppression under the former regime.
@@GoProColomboStreets Thanks a lot friend. I am a Bangladeshi and trust me its a great relief for me that you are talking positively about the current situation of Bangladesh
As an Indian, Bangladeshis should be a little relieved about the fact that fake news in India about Bangladesh is being countered now. We know its a people's movements, and Islam, Hindu, ISI has nothing to do with it. Social media is countering it and mainstream media is also coming back although partly. We support the people of bangladesh against dictator Hasina.
@@subhrajitgupta5535 Thank you. It was highly offensive seeing people dismissing a people's justified and organic efforts to topple a dictator. Nice to see people with sense countering that
@@subhrajitgupta5535 this is what we really need, India should support the people of Bangladesh and Their assents. Look as a Bangladeshi we can clearly see the unpopularity of India in Bangladesh. The question is why? This podcast discussed some of the reason. And we will be happy if India become next global power (bishwogoru), seems like India become usa & we become canada, we are looking for our prosperity, right now we expect from India is Simply support the people of Bangladesh and Their Bangali-Muslim identity, and make sure Regional peace Through "extremist in check" |
As far as I've seen over the last couple of days, this is the best neutral and honest discussion about the current issues in Bangladesh. I appreciate it.
The issues of dictatorship, corruption, money laundering, and forced disappearances have heightened my political awareness. These factors have profoundly changed my perspective, transforming me from a supporter to a critic.
I hope the Indian government, politicians, intellectuals, and more general people realize this. Unfortunately, the Indian government, as well the speakers here, considers the dictator, Sheikh Hasina, accused of all the horrible things you mentioned, 'a friend'. It is giving a signal to the people of Bangladesh, who were on the receiving side, that the Indian government cares more about an individual Bangladeshi leader/political party than the interest and well-being of the Bangladeshi people and the Bangladeshi state. I hope the Indian government and people will stand beside the Bangladeshi people, not the tyrant Sheikh Hasina, and help us to bring her to justice by a fair trial in International court.
Shivsankar Menon is a smart guy and the only Indian person who has got it. It was a people's movement. This discussion is so refreshing to watch. Finally we got a logical and intellectual discussion from Indian media without shouting. Thank you.
These Zandu experts are less informed. Now Leftists and Librandus changed narrative from Students' movement to People's when islamic students waved undergarments stolen from woman PM of the country. This compelled Librandus change their narrative. For what reason they first call it students' movement ? Same thing is happening in India too. Earlier they called Kissan movement for Khalistani protest. Read Print's article 9-10 month ago that banned group Jamat e Eslami is trying to highjack power of Bangladesh. Russia had also warned about it.
Who supported these "people"? I refuse to believe for even one second that these so called people/students whatever caused the ouster of hasina. There's some very powerful entities behind this whole exercise. After the supreme court order this movement should have ended BUT that wasn't their true objective or their demand in the first place, but just a made up pretext
@@MrG_11 by the time the supreme court verdict came, hundreds of students died. You have no idea about the student movement in Bangladesh. No matter which government is in power, none was able to hold power by killing student. Be it 1952, 1969,1971, or 1990.
We can't compare a rapidly growing economy like Bangladesh to a struggling country like Pakistan. India must closely monitor the situation in Bangladesh. Since independence, the minority population in Bangladesh has decreased to 8%, while in India, the minority population has only increased. This could be a student-led movement striving for a better-functioning democracy. However, we cannot ignore the rise of Islamist movements in Bangladesh. India will never allow another genocide of non-Muslims in Bangladesh-that's for certain. If it comes to that, India has to dispel millions of illegal Bengali Muslim migrant workers back to Bangladesh. Most of them have illegally crossed the border. The question we have is, if this is a democratic movement, why do Hindus, Christians, and other minorities have to suffer at the hands of Islamists? Are they not a part of your country?
Shivshankar Menon You're right, it's unfair for India to blindly support the Hasina government and then deflect blame onto other countries when things go wrong. Bangladesh is a sovereign nation and deserves respect. Bangladeshis are not fools, and they can see through these tactics. It's important for India to engage with Bangladesh as an equal partner and acknowledge the concerns of its people. Only then can the two countries build a truly strong and mutually beneficial relationship.
Finally a discussion from India which is not steering into unsubstantiated conspiracy theories. Of all 4 people on the panel, Mr Menon have the most cleared eye view of the situation in Bangladesh. His approach to this situation is very sensible, those in power should heed his advise and work towards improving relationships with all neighbours.
unfortunately these people are already labelled as anti national by those who are in power or their supporters. Politics is India is no more inclusive and when somebody have a different opinion to ruling party is called as anti hindu, anti national, foreign funded etc.. politics is now become so divisive that i feel there is no way out to reverse the situation. the long term future of india determine on upcoming 2-3 years. It's hurting my heart while saying this, if divisive politics continues there is no future of India but chaos and civil unrest will be there.
Glad to have found one of those rare Indian channels-hosting a panel of enlightened individuals-discussing the political upheaval in Bangladesh without biases. It has truly transcended the deplorable penchant for propaganda, hysteria and myopia, prevalent in the overwhelming majority of the media outlets in India. Instead of projecting distorted images of the reality (filtered through the lenses of unilateralism, sectarianism, and apathy), this channel has revealed it with great clarity and accuracy. I'm deeply appreciative of the channel, the host, and the guests, for their insight and integrity.
For the first time, an unbiased realistic discussion on Bangladesh is conveyed when it comes to Indian media. Development of a country is futile if people's voice is not heard by leader. Bangladesh has built a good example by sacrificing numerous lives especially youths for the upcoming generation.
@madhukarmurthi9064 bro in a country where central bank needs to manipulate GDP figures and blocks economic statistics and inflation reports,can you really verify the news?The only way is to wait for authenticated statistics and data that can be independently & locally verified and accepted.Again,look at it this way.What do indians hate the most?Islamic extremists and Pakistan winning in cricket.Establishing a narrative that Hindu lives are endangered,Islamic radicals has taken over etc is the easiest way to earn your support.Surely,in terms of national interest people rarely go against their country and rarely question what their own govt incentive is.Jamaat e Islam has never won more than 5% votes in any election,even though we are a Muslim majority country,we have historically voted for more secular forms and lived in harmony w different religions.Again, Indian people has elected a party whose ideology is in Hindu unity.So,If you can exercise democracy and establish such a govt then why we can't? If you fear a Muslim majority rule,then how do you legitimize your own govt?We are not Pakistan,we are not India,we are Bangladesh.Yes we are largely Muslim yet we have fought against Pakistan in 1971.We have a separate identity as Bengali and Bangladeshi, religiously discriminating politics have never been established in our country.Even yesterday when I went to provide supplies for flood relief,we were bringing back two families on our truck,one was a Muslim couple with their child and the other was a Hindu family.They had 3 women,one being the mother,daughter and the other being the wife of her son.The husband was with them too.At one point the Muslim women got really sick and vomited.However,the women helped her clean,gave her water and was sheltering her in their lap while trying to treat her rising fever with a cold towel.It made me so proud of our people,of our unity.All I can hope is that such level of unity will be established throughout south Asia and the world.
Proud of Bangladesh. Bangladesh literally showed to the world that you can stand against injustice in an united fashion like this and topple a powerful regime very quickly. People think Bangladesh in a young country. But Bengal culture is not young. This has been a region rich with history. 1100 years of history. And the entire history is filled with moments when the Bengal people rose up against bad leaders.
Respect from a fellow Bangladeshi, thank you for understanding us. Hopefully we can now take the new path worthy of Indias respect and cooperation, lets win
Thank you Nimisha. In recent history, Bangladesh once rose against the tyrant oppressors in 1971 and this time again, against the most heinous dictator of her own soil. Sadly, our success in 1971 has been hijacked by India who thinks she gave Bangladesh their victory against the Pakistanis. While we deeply appreciate the sacrifice of the Indian people, particularly those of the then West Bengal alongside us, and the generous support of the then Prime Minister Indira Gandhi and the Indian Army, we condemn the efforts of the later Governments of India to undermine the efforts of our freedom fighters and take away the credit altogether themselves.
The way these four discussing on the Bangladesh issue, I wish Indian policy makers could think like this. Really, a constructive discussion. Salute from Bangladesh.
We talked about a few parallels in India to what has been happening in Bangladesh and then a week back blew up on the face of Sheikh Hasina! We also talked about hounding, Nobel Laureate, Prof Muhammad Yunus by Sheikh Hasina on the charges of some embezzlement of funds but did our Govt not do the same to Prof Amartya Sen from Nalanda University and accused him of embezzlement of funds and even accused him of stashing the university with his own people and daughter of Dr Manmohan Singh, which wasn't the case! Prof Upinder Singh, a Historian, moved to Ashoka University from Delhi University and never came to Nalanda! Therefore, Modi Govt has many parallels to the happenings of Sheikh Hasina Govt.
What is Amartya Sen's contribution to the Country I remember in one interview some 15 years back professing that we should export Iron ore to China as we do not have high grade coke . We should export Rice and cereal to China. He was pushing India into Agrian economy
@@shrikanthbhat2811 What are we discussing here? Sheikh Hasina targeted Mohammad Yunus and the Modi Govt hounded out Prof Amartya Sen. Do you mean because he was of the view that India to press on in the Agrarian sector and also export Iron Ore, which many Govt in have done, it was right to hound him? He is an academic and was in Nalanda in that capacity!
I am a Bangladeshi. I was really concerned to see how many Indian media outlets were far from the reality. I was a supporter of Awame League at one point of my life. What Shaikh Hasina did to her own countrymen was nothing less than genocide! We genuinely want a progressive change now towards justice and prosperity for all the citizens of our country irrespective of social class or religion. Finally, I found some sensible speakers here. Appreciate the speaker panel here.
Shiv Shankar Menon Sir is phenomenal. He has excellent knowledge about Bangladesh. This is the only show i finds unbiased, on ground and realistic. Thanks from Dhaka.
Just remember current situation in Bangladesh is solely created by India. India wanted to see Bangladesh through her authoritarian eyes. India made partnership to one person while putting aside the interest of the entire 170 millions. This just demonstrates how bad and ignorant of Indian foreign policies are, if this does not teach us, slowly and surely India will find themselves as the sole hostile neighbor of the entire region. Don't make your neighbor your enemy's, there are still time to be sober!
The Awami League is a major party, the party of independence, and many people still support the Awami League. No matter what you say, if they want to return to Bangladesh's politics and elections, they must first return the 98 billion dollars that they have allegedly embezzled from Bangladesh over the past 16 years. Only then can they reenter politics. If this is not implemented, other political parties may also be emboldened to do the same in the future.
Correctionsl - Awami League WAS a major party - not anymore. Very small minority do support it like they support Jatiya Party pioneered by Ershad. After confessions came out of the torture chamber, aynaghar, even awami league supporters hate Hasina. There are brainwashed people out there though.
No one had any hands in this revolution. Indians need to come out of this idea. Anyone who has been in these protests, know, it was a revolution of the people.
The only Indian media discussion which could sum up the whole situation in Bangladesh accurately. Absolutely loved hearing all you say what needs to be said. Thank you
One thing this panel has missed out is the people-to-people relationship which are crucial to draw the bigger picture. As a Bangladeshi married to an Indian for over 30 years, I find it deeply unfair that neither I nor my son are eligible for OCI status simply because we are from Bangladesh. While citizens of almost all other nationalities are granted this privilege, Bangladeshis and Pakistanis are categorically excluded. I believe this policy violates my wife’s constitutional rights and is discriminatory, as it prevents her from extending a privilege to her husband and son that is readily available to others. This discrimination against Bangladeshis indicates that the Indian government still fails to separate Bangladesh from Pakistan. Such policies hinder the development of genuine people-to-people connections between our nations. It is disheartening to see that, while our dogs can be friends, genuine friendships and trust between people of our two countries are obstructed, even when family ties exist. I wonder this respected panel can understand why friendship across borders remains elusive when the Government of India fails to recognize the sanctity of marriage and the rights of women to ensure equal rights for all.
Can Bangladeshi "intelligensia" and what Bangladeshis consider to be "Indian" intelligensia provide an explanation as to why the Hindu population in your country has been declining?
I am impressed with quality of discussion in this show. Wire shows it is an channel worth watching. Very different from other channels who are harping on foreign hand in Bangladesh recent change. Further, they are over playing the treatment of minorities in Bangladesh after the monumental change in Bangladesh.
Mr.Siblal Sir,i am a follower of your not now since past when you talked about your country's issues inside the court room and outside.my deep gratitude to you that you always talk the right thing which is actual happened.thank you again that you pick the actual situation of Bangladesh.you know,in a Democratic society,it the people who decides how and who will rule country.nobody should dictate them.everyone should respect the desire of Bangladeshi people which is democracy.
The group dialog went extraordinary. The participants are very high standard and well qualified. Kapil sibel is the most honoured person who took the apt subject in time. In the end the young women journalist took the steering. Congrats all for the discussion without any leniency even so called national hegemony. There are so many hiccups in our foreign policy especially by the modi period.
Excellent discussion and the panel really understand Bangladesh. Specially Mr. RCA Raghavan so nicely articulated the difference between Bangladesh and Pakistan as a culture and country, was so on point. It’s great to see the counter of mainstream Indian media campaign against Bangladesh.
It is very important to remember that Hasina is not a refugee. She's a brutal dictator and ruthless killer on the run. If India wants to be a friend of Bangladeshi people, then it should hold hasina as a captive until she is brought to justice. Also, remember that she proclaimed herself as elected through rigged election. So india will be better off if india takes the side of the people of bangladesh. All in all, hasina is a fallen dictator. Strict with this narrative.
The most balanced and beautiful conversation i have heard from any indian media after the regime change. Thank you all. We Love indians as they are OUR brothers and sisters but we hate the Bjp policy/comment about Bangladesh. And the medias over there
One of the best panels for any discussion. One dilemma always stays with me about the region. We can't intrude into the neighbouring countries' internal affairs & challenges like income inequality, suppression of dissent, etc & the political results that they yield. But if these challenges are common across the subcontinent, isn't it possible for a country like India to lead by example. What kind of leadership role can we aspire to at UNSC or G-20, when we can't provide a sort of leadership in our own neighbourhood. However it's important to point out that we are not the only region with such asymmetrical geography facing challenges of coherence. The Americas are an example too.
The lady says," India is largest county and we have to be magnanimous ". In India, you have to do major psychological overhauling of your society which is plagued by Hindutva and RSS etc to achieve that goal.
Despite everything, India is the only country in the region where the minorities have increased, as a percentage of total population. Your own minority population has come down to half, percentage wise from what it was.
at 30.24 the lady spilled the truth, indian interest. As Hasina once said in her speech how much she gave to India that they will not forget and now the Indian govt repaying it. And yet they dare to term it as the replica of Maldives.
This is fascinating discussion. I hope politicians from all sides listen. Please invite guests from other side of the border so that we can hear their perspectives.
@@RitikaPriya-fz9dd If you want to show hate by asking questions, please don't ask, it will only increase the hate. If the question is polite, genuine, then you're welcome..
Mr. Menon is perhaps the most pragmatic and one can see that his vast experience is allowing him to see through the smokes and mirrors when it comes to India and its neighbourly relationships, and especially in reading what happened in Bangladesh. Amongst the Nepalese, for example, I felt that there was an angst towards India meddling into her affairs. Pakistan-India is case that needs no comment. Now Bangladesh. Basically India doesn’t have a cogent foreign policy when it comes to its neighbours. If it can’t rise above individuals and regimes (Rajapakse or Hasina) and create a people to people connect, it lands up being blindsided like it has been, not having been able to read the mood of the Bangladeshi people, having seen Bangladesh through Hasina’s lens. And now Hasina is now sort of ‘stranded’ in India, with India not knowing what to do about it. She being a ‘friend’ to India has been double-edged sword in Bangladesh; seen as someone who’s had made her country a client-state of India.
Indeed a commendable discourse . South Asian countries have to be inclusive in their approach for development and welfare of their ppl irrespective of religion or origin .👍👍👍
Gr8 discussion. Especially at 34:55. When the government feels that the Indian diaspora across the world can help in achieving certain foreign policy goals what about these communities on either side of almost all of our borders?
First time I have seen such a realistic, delicate and meaningful discussion. It's because of the honorable guests who care about India and building relations with neighbors as a friend and family. Not like the political leaders, specially by current Facist Government and their Hindu (I have doubt are they really Hindu or Gandu? As in Hinduism, their should not be any hatred, jealousy same as like other religion) leaders. Let's bring peace among this region, by going beyond sensitive deviding issues, which are been played by politician as Trump card.
What a remarkable perspective right at the outset of this discussion. You have accurately identified the core of the issue. While per capita GDP may appear satisfactory, it holds little relevance for the common people, particularly the youth, who comprise nearly 50% of the population aged 1-28/29 years. The situation worsens when a regime deliberately enacts divisive policies and places its loyalists in positions of power at the expense of the broader population. The revolution we witnessed is the culmination of accumulated grievances, widespread corruption, and the destruction of institutions, including the judiciary, as primary causes. When internal issues are present, external factors inevitably come into play, albeit later. Therefore, India's alignment with the sentiment of the Bangladeshi people would be the right stance in the end.
Brilliant discussion. The fact that India under Modi has isolated itself from the region is quite a set back. And trying to be more active on other international forums like BRICS, G-20 etc., I believe is too far fetched. Also, India becoming a poodle for America in trying to counter China world wide has done India no favor to it in South Asia. Lastly, Suhasini Haider made the most sense amongst all the participants. An extremely smart and educated woman.
Wow. Will you give her respect after what she has done to the country and its people? Oh, I am sorry, I forgot that she did more for India than what she did for Bangladesh.
What a wonderful way to describe the situation, the guest says they see chaos and take advantage of it either from outside or inside. Kapil stands as a paragon of the inside variety. I guess Kapil has so much struggle within himself when he has to say something critical about an islamic country, he always has to come back to India and its problems and equating the islamic state to India.
[ If you we view everything prosumer of the past or through chaina, pakistan presume we will not able to establish good base to what is going to happen in Bangladesh. ] I never saw or listen any Indian or Indian media to held and speck such a constructive discussion about Bangladesh and it's current situation like this before. Thank you so much for representing real fact.
When Indian couldn’t imagine or calculate such a revolutionary move coming it tells how poor the political relationship had been with Bangladesh! India Being Democratic, Pluralistic, Secularist it believed all the good things for India while treating for neighboring nations have been absolutely opposite, treated with all vague tools like conflicts like “Islamists” or “Minorities” etc. India needed to understand long ago that Bangladesh was friendly, secular, pluralistic and democracy-loving deprived of getting fairness in all institutions, India deprived from fair share of waters with LARGE trade deficits. India has been putting all their eggs on Hasina. Hasina dug her grave by destroying her future by leaving the country’s population behind handicapped, embraced the autocratic corruptions that killed the souls of PEOPLE over time. India lost all friends around its large land boundaries. Policy and politics must be learned and adjusted by the US-Canada and EU nations relationship. Neighborhood cannot be lost by wrongdoings. It can be repaired by doing things right ! Thank you India
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I'm a Sri Lankan who had the privilege of travelling all over Bangladesh during my 5 year career there. When I returned to Sri Lanka just a week before the 2024 elections, I predicted to my Bengali friends that the situation in Sri Lanka would be mirrored in Bangladesh, even without the opposition's support, because I observed the people were so angry at the lack of tolerance for alternative views and the extreme corruption under the Hasina regime. This is the most balanced discussion I've seen by a group of Indians who truly understand the ground realities. Best wishes to my Bengali friends for a better future after enduring prolonged oppression under the former regime.
Thank you, dear friend of Bangladesh people.
@@GoProColomboStreets Thanks a lot friend. I am a Bangladeshi and trust me its a great relief for me that you are talking positively about the current situation of Bangladesh
I predcited same before election and my fellow countrymen though I am not sane !
As an Indian, Bangladeshis should be a little relieved about the fact that fake news in India about Bangladesh is being countered now.
We know its a people's movements, and Islam, Hindu, ISI has nothing to do with it.
Social media is countering it and mainstream media is also coming back although partly.
We support the people of bangladesh against dictator Hasina.
@@subhrajitgupta5535 Thank you. It was highly offensive seeing people dismissing a people's justified and organic efforts to topple a dictator. Nice to see people with sense countering that
Agree.
You are totally correct
Yes
@@subhrajitgupta5535 this is what we really need, India should support the people of Bangladesh and Their assents. Look as a Bangladeshi we can clearly see the unpopularity of India in Bangladesh. The question is why? This podcast discussed some of the reason.
And we will be happy if India become next global power (bishwogoru), seems like India become usa & we become canada, we are looking for our prosperity, right now we expect from India is Simply support the people of Bangladesh and Their Bangali-Muslim identity, and make sure Regional peace Through "extremist in check" |
As far as I've seen over the last couple of days, this is the best neutral and honest discussion about the current issues in Bangladesh. I appreciate it.
Kanglus spotted
If it's a movement for real democracy, why do Hindus, Christians, and other minorities have to suffer at the hands of Muslims?
@@stuartcook7362Hindi vashi bigot
The issues of dictatorship, corruption, money laundering, and forced disappearances have heightened my political awareness. These factors have profoundly changed my perspective, transforming me from a supporter to a critic.
I hope the Indian government, politicians, intellectuals, and more general people realize this. Unfortunately, the Indian government, as well the speakers here, considers the dictator, Sheikh Hasina, accused of all the horrible things you mentioned, 'a friend'. It is giving a signal to the people of Bangladesh, who were on the receiving side, that the Indian government cares more about an individual Bangladeshi leader/political party than the interest and well-being of the Bangladeshi people and the Bangladeshi state. I hope the Indian government and people will stand beside the Bangladeshi people, not the tyrant Sheikh Hasina, and help us to bring her to justice by a fair trial in International court.
Shivsankar Menon is a smart guy and the only Indian person who has got it. It was a people's movement. This discussion is so refreshing to watch. Finally we got a logical and intellectual discussion from Indian media without shouting. Thank you.
Fruitful discussion.
These Zandu experts are less informed. Now Leftists and Librandus changed narrative from Students' movement to People's when islamic students waved undergarments stolen from woman PM of the country. This compelled Librandus change their narrative. For what reason they first call it students' movement ?
Same thing is happening in India too. Earlier they called Kissan movement for Khalistani protest. Read Print's article 9-10 month ago that banned group Jamat e Eslami is trying to highjack power of Bangladesh. Russia had also warned about it.
Who supported these "people"? I refuse to believe for even one second that these so called people/students whatever caused the ouster of hasina. There's some very powerful entities behind this whole exercise. After the supreme court order this movement should have ended BUT that wasn't their true objective or their demand in the first place, but just a made up pretext
@@MrG_11 by the time the supreme court verdict came, hundreds of students died. You have no idea about the student movement in Bangladesh. No matter which government is in power, none was able to hold power by killing student. Be it 1952, 1969,1971, or 1990.
We can't compare a rapidly growing economy like Bangladesh to a struggling country like Pakistan. India must closely monitor the situation in Bangladesh. Since independence, the minority population in Bangladesh has decreased to 8%, while in India, the minority population has only increased. This could be a student-led movement striving for a better-functioning democracy. However, we cannot ignore the rise of Islamist movements in Bangladesh. India will never allow another genocide of non-Muslims in Bangladesh-that's for certain. If it comes to that, India has to dispel millions of illegal Bengali Muslim migrant workers back to Bangladesh. Most of them have illegally crossed the border. The question we have is, if this is a democratic movement, why do Hindus, Christians, and other minorities have to suffer at the hands of Islamists? Are they not a part of your country?
Shivshankar Menon You're right, it's unfair for India to blindly support the Hasina government and then deflect blame onto other countries when things go wrong. Bangladesh is a sovereign nation and deserves respect. Bangladeshis are not fools, and they can see through these tactics.
It's important for India to engage with Bangladesh as an equal partner and acknowledge the concerns of its people. Only then can the two countries build a truly strong and mutually beneficial relationship.
well said.
We are the masters in the blame game and whataboutery!
Finally a discussion from India which is not steering into unsubstantiated conspiracy theories. Of all 4 people on the panel, Mr Menon have the most cleared eye view of the situation in Bangladesh. His approach to this situation is very sensible, those in power should heed his advise and work towards improving relationships with all neighbours.
unfortunately these people are already labelled as anti national by those who are in power or their supporters. Politics is India is no more inclusive and when somebody have a different opinion to ruling party is called as anti hindu, anti national, foreign funded etc.. politics is now become so divisive that i feel there is no way out to reverse the situation. the long term future of india determine on upcoming 2-3 years. It's hurting my heart while saying this, if divisive politics continues there is no future of India but chaos and civil unrest will be there.
Glad to have found one of those rare Indian channels-hosting a panel of enlightened individuals-discussing the political upheaval in Bangladesh without biases. It has truly transcended the deplorable penchant for propaganda, hysteria and myopia, prevalent in the overwhelming majority of the media outlets in India. Instead of projecting distorted images of the reality (filtered through the lenses of unilateralism, sectarianism, and apathy), this channel has revealed it with great clarity and accuracy. I'm deeply appreciative of the channel, the host, and the guests, for their insight and integrity.
For the first time, an unbiased realistic discussion on Bangladesh is conveyed when it comes to Indian media. Development of a country is futile if people's voice is not heard by leader. Bangladesh has built a good example by sacrificing numerous lives especially youths for the upcoming generation.
and how do we get Bangladeshis to provide us an unbiased and realistic understanding of why their Hindu population is declining in number?
@madhukarmurthi9064 bro in a country where central bank needs to manipulate GDP figures and blocks economic statistics and inflation reports,can you really verify the news?The only way is to wait for authenticated statistics and data that can be independently & locally verified and accepted.Again,look at it this way.What do indians hate the most?Islamic extremists and Pakistan winning in cricket.Establishing a narrative that Hindu lives are endangered,Islamic radicals has taken over etc is the easiest way to earn your support.Surely,in terms of national interest people rarely go against their country and rarely question what their own govt incentive is.Jamaat e Islam has never won more than 5% votes in any election,even though we are a Muslim majority country,we have historically voted for more secular forms and lived in harmony w different religions.Again, Indian people has elected a party whose ideology is in Hindu unity.So,If you can exercise democracy and establish such a govt then why we can't? If you fear a Muslim majority rule,then how do you legitimize your own govt?We are not Pakistan,we are not India,we are Bangladesh.Yes we are largely Muslim yet we have fought against Pakistan in 1971.We have a separate identity as Bengali and Bangladeshi, religiously discriminating politics have never been established in our country.Even yesterday when I went to provide supplies for flood relief,we were bringing back two families on our truck,one was a Muslim couple with their child and the other was a Hindu family.They had 3 women,one being the mother,daughter and the other being the wife of her son.The husband was with them too.At one point the Muslim women got really sick and vomited.However,the women helped her clean,gave her water and was sheltering her in their lap while trying to treat her rising fever with a cold towel.It made me so proud of our people,of our unity.All I can hope is that such level of unity will be established throughout south Asia and the world.
Proud of Bangladesh. Bangladesh literally showed to the world that you can stand against injustice in an united fashion like this and topple a powerful regime very quickly. People think Bangladesh in a young country. But Bengal culture is not young. This has been a region rich with history. 1100 years of history. And the entire history is filled with moments when the Bengal people rose up against bad leaders.
Respect from a fellow Bangladeshi, thank you for understanding us. Hopefully we can now take the new path worthy of Indias respect and cooperation, lets win
India always sees Bangladesh through the Awami League eyes and it's wrong.
@@kmhassan1362 Exactly
Thank you Nimisha.
In recent history, Bangladesh once rose against the tyrant oppressors in 1971 and this time again, against the most heinous dictator of her own soil. Sadly, our success in 1971 has been hijacked by India who thinks she gave Bangladesh their victory against the Pakistanis. While we deeply appreciate the sacrifice of the Indian people, particularly those of the then West Bengal alongside us, and the generous support of the then Prime Minister Indira Gandhi and the Indian Army, we condemn the efforts of the later Governments of India to undermine the efforts of our freedom fighters and take away the credit altogether themselves.
All characters (Bhutto, Indira Gandhi, Sh Mujeeb) of 1971 episode met their destiny. New lines awaited in India now.
Love the way the room is set up not just with experts but also with the aesthetics placed around according to the topic.
The way these four discussing on the Bangladesh issue, I wish Indian policy makers could think like this. Really, a constructive discussion. Salute from Bangladesh.
We talked about a few parallels in India to what has been happening in Bangladesh and then a week back blew up on the face of Sheikh Hasina! We also talked about hounding, Nobel Laureate, Prof Muhammad Yunus by Sheikh Hasina on the charges of some embezzlement of funds but did our Govt not do the same to Prof Amartya Sen from Nalanda University and accused him of embezzlement of funds and even accused him of stashing the university with his own people and daughter of Dr Manmohan Singh, which wasn't the case!
Prof Upinder Singh, a Historian, moved to Ashoka University from Delhi University and never came to Nalanda!
Therefore, Modi Govt has many parallels to the happenings of Sheikh Hasina Govt.
What is Amartya Sen's contribution to the Country I remember in one interview some 15 years back professing that we should export Iron ore to China as we do not have high grade coke . We should export Rice and cereal to China. He was pushing India into Agrian economy
@@shrikanthbhat2811 What are we discussing here? Sheikh Hasina targeted Mohammad Yunus and the Modi Govt hounded out Prof Amartya Sen.
Do you mean because he was of the view that India to press on in the Agrarian sector and also export Iron Ore, which many Govt in have done, it was right to hound him?
He is an academic and was in Nalanda in that capacity!
Very balanced discussion. As a Bangladeshi, i love the nuanced takes and seeing things beyond Indian lenses.
I am a Bangladeshi. I was really concerned to see how many Indian media outlets were far from the reality.
I was a supporter of Awame League at one point of my life. What Shaikh Hasina did to her own countrymen was nothing less than genocide!
We genuinely want a progressive change now towards justice and prosperity for all the citizens of our country irrespective of social class or religion. Finally, I found some sensible speakers here. Appreciate the speaker panel here.
Thanks a lot to all the honorable speakers. Finally i found to hear something positive and genuine about Bangladesh.
Shiv Shankar Menon Sir is phenomenal. He has excellent knowledge about Bangladesh. This is the only show i finds unbiased, on ground and realistic. Thanks from Dhaka.
At last, a sensible and accurate discussion on what went down in my country.
Perhaps the most balanced and neutral discussion in Indian media
Just remember current situation in Bangladesh is solely created by India. India wanted to see Bangladesh through her authoritarian eyes. India made partnership to one person while putting aside the interest of the entire 170 millions. This just demonstrates how bad and ignorant of Indian foreign policies are, if this does not teach us, slowly and surely India will find themselves as the sole hostile neighbor of the entire region. Don't make your neighbor your enemy's, there are still time to be sober!
Do you remember Hindu genocide in Kangladesh?
The Awami League is a major party, the party of independence, and many people still support the Awami League. No matter what you say, if they want to return to Bangladesh's politics and elections, they must first return the 98 billion dollars that they have allegedly embezzled from Bangladesh over the past 16 years. Only then can they reenter politics. If this is not implemented, other political parties may also be emboldened to do the same in the future.
At list 25 years this boat gone down 😂😂😂😂😂
new report says its over 150 billions usd source-daily star
Correctionsl - Awami League WAS a major party - not anymore.
Very small minority do support it like they support Jatiya Party pioneered by Ershad.
After confessions came out of the torture chamber, aynaghar, even awami league supporters hate Hasina.
There are brainwashed people out there though.
No one had any hands in this revolution. Indians need to come out of this idea. Anyone who has been in these protests, know, it was a revolution of the people.
I agree...Hindus were slaughtered by the general beliefs of Bangladeshi population, not any specific mal-intentioned subset
Finally, some sensible discussion! Thanks.
The only Indian media discussion which could sum up the whole situation in Bangladesh accurately. Absolutely loved hearing all you say what needs to be said. Thank you
One thing this panel has missed out is the people-to-people relationship which are crucial to draw the bigger picture. As a Bangladeshi married to an Indian for over 30 years, I find it deeply unfair that neither I nor my son are eligible for OCI status simply because we are from Bangladesh. While citizens of almost all other nationalities are granted this privilege, Bangladeshis and Pakistanis are categorically excluded. I believe this policy violates my wife’s constitutional rights and is discriminatory, as it prevents her from extending a privilege to her husband and son that is readily available to others.
This discrimination against Bangladeshis indicates that the Indian government still fails to separate Bangladesh from Pakistan. Such policies hinder the development of genuine people-to-people connections between our nations. It is disheartening to see that, while our dogs can be friends, genuine friendships and trust between people of our two countries are obstructed, even when family ties exist. I wonder this respected panel can understand why friendship across borders remains elusive when the Government of India fails to recognize the sanctity of marriage and the rights of women to ensure equal rights for all.
If India keeps Hasina then you can forget about a good relation with Bangladesh.
Educated and non biased discussion . Love from Bangladesh..
Watched half of it since I have some important tasks to take care of. These gentlemen are having a very nice and sensible talk. Thanks.
Really liked the conversations.U have actually spotted on the ground realities impartially. Best wishes from Bangladesh.
This is an impartial and unbiased discussion as much could be expected from Indian intelligentsia.
True.
Can Bangladeshi "intelligensia" and what Bangladeshis consider to be "Indian" intelligensia provide an explanation as to why the Hindu population in your country has been declining?
Would this group please give an explanation why Hindu Population has declined to 7 percent.
Excellent informed discussion by a learned panel. Should have more of these.
Brilliant discussion! Enjoyed.
I am impressed with quality of discussion in this show.
Wire shows it is an channel worth watching.
Very different from other channels who are harping on foreign hand in Bangladesh recent change. Further, they are over playing the treatment of minorities in Bangladesh after the monumental change in Bangladesh.
I am glad I found this discussion ❤ take love from Bangladesh
really appriciate the honest discussion.Really a fan from now
Great panel and Great discussion
It was an absolute revolution by the people of Bangladesh against oppression and dictatorship.
Amazing panel, would like to hear more from this panel on more such complex issues
This may have been the best analysis of the situation in Bangladesh.Thank you ❤
Mr.Siblal Sir,i am a follower of your not now since past when you talked about your country's issues inside the court room and outside.my deep gratitude to you that you always talk the right thing which is actual happened.thank you again that you pick the actual situation of Bangladesh.you know,in a Democratic society,it the people who decides how and who will rule country.nobody should dictate them.everyone should respect the desire of Bangladeshi people which is democracy.
The group dialog went extraordinary. The participants are very high standard and well qualified. Kapil sibel is the most honoured person who took the apt subject in time. In the end the young women journalist took the steering. Congrats all for the discussion without any leniency even so called national hegemony. There are so many hiccups in our foreign policy especially by the modi period.
Very nice discussion!! Thanks from Sylhet Bangladesh.
Indeed it was a fascinating discussion. Please continue this type of discussions in future.
Excellent discussion and the panel really understand Bangladesh. Specially Mr. RCA Raghavan so nicely articulated the difference between Bangladesh and Pakistan as a culture and country, was so on point. It’s great to see the counter of mainstream Indian media campaign against Bangladesh.
Such a refreshing discussion; this is the most sensible panel I have come across in the last few days.
Kanglu spotted
Excellent analysis. Very impartial and scholars understood the ground situation accurately.
Excellent commentary depicting a better picture of the situation. Really enjoyed the conversation!
The lady with due respect, she has made a very valid point about the relationship between two countries
It is very important to remember that Hasina is not a refugee. She's a brutal dictator and ruthless killer on the run.
If India wants to be a friend of Bangladeshi people, then it should hold hasina as a captive until she is brought to justice.
Also, remember that she proclaimed herself as elected through rigged election.
So india will be better off if india takes the side of the people of bangladesh.
All in all, hasina is a fallen dictator.
Strict with this narrative.
The most balanced and beautiful conversation i have heard from any indian media after the regime change. Thank you all. We Love indians as they are OUR brothers and sisters but we hate the Bjp policy/comment about Bangladesh. And the medias over there
Very informative and very nicely conducted hats off to Kapil Sibbal
Thank you sirs, my sincere thanks to all of you, you have correctly described the situation. I hope Indian government have the same view
The only person who really knows what he is talking about here is Mr. Menon, as a Bangladeshi I felt like he spoke my mind, thank you
One of the best panels for any discussion. One dilemma always stays with me about the region. We can't intrude into the neighbouring countries' internal affairs & challenges like income inequality, suppression of dissent, etc & the political results that they yield. But if these challenges are common across the subcontinent, isn't it possible for a country like India to lead by example. What kind of leadership role can we aspire to at UNSC or G-20, when we can't provide a sort of leadership in our own neighbourhood. However it's important to point out that we are not the only region with such asymmetrical geography facing challenges of coherence. The Americas are an example too.
Really, excellent discussion. ❤ from Bangladesh
Hi, you guys are awesome! Refreshing change in tone from what I’ve been able to follow so far, in terms of media coverage on this change of regime.
Fascinating discussion
only highly educated people like u can put the Bangladesh issue in right perspective Thanks for enlightening us.
Thank you for showing the truth.
Outstanding debate with academicians and all learned dignitaries. Superb.
Great discussion, all are great intellectuals so happened meaningful discussion, really appreciable! Best wishes for all participants!
Kapiljis interview and videos are stand apart and great.
A unique and highly well regarded set of panelists 😊
Very balanced view. Very few Indians have criticised their own govt with regards to their faulty domestic and foreign policy
These panelists can't get over with the fact that Lutyen clout in Delhi has disappeared at the time of PM Modi
The lady says," India is largest county and we have to be magnanimous ". In India, you have to do major psychological overhauling of your society which is plagued by Hindutva and RSS etc to achieve that goal.
Despite everything, India is the only country in the region where the minorities have increased, as a percentage of total population. Your own minority population has come down to half, percentage wise from what it was.
at 30.24 the lady spilled the truth, indian interest. As Hasina once said in her speech how much she gave to India that they will not forget and now the Indian govt repaying it. And yet they dare to term it as the replica of Maldives.
This is fascinating discussion. I hope politicians from all sides listen. Please invite guests from other side of the border so that we can hear their perspectives.
Most open minded discussion so far. Really interested
@@ShafiqUllah-j1n hello I want to ask you some question about islam
@@RitikaPriya-fz9dd If you want to show hate by asking questions, please don't ask, it will only increase the hate.
If the question is polite, genuine, then you're welcome..
@@noorkhalaasi no no I don't want any hate
@@noorkhalaasi I genuinely want to ask some questions about the misinterpretion of islam
@@RitikaPriya-fz9dd Im not an expert, but I'll try my best to answer you..
Mr. Menon is perhaps the most pragmatic and one can see that his vast experience is allowing him to see through the smokes and mirrors when it comes to India and its neighbourly relationships, and especially in reading what happened in Bangladesh. Amongst the Nepalese, for example, I felt that there was an angst towards India meddling into her affairs. Pakistan-India is case that needs no comment. Now Bangladesh. Basically India doesn’t have a cogent foreign policy when it comes to its neighbours. If it can’t rise above individuals and regimes (Rajapakse or Hasina) and create a people to people connect, it lands up being blindsided like it has been, not having been able to read the mood of the Bangladeshi people, having seen Bangladesh through Hasina’s lens. And now Hasina is now sort of ‘stranded’ in India, with India not knowing what to do about it. She being a ‘friend’ to India has been double-edged sword in Bangladesh; seen as someone who’s had made her country a client-state of India.
Hello Wire management...we appreciate your channel. Very good panel. I also like the interviews of Mr. Thapor.
Oh My God! You guys still alive!!! 😮
Love from Bangladesh ❤❤
Great discussion. The indian government should listen to them.
If it's a movement for real democracy, why do Hindus, Christians, and other minorities have to suffer at the hands of Muslims?
Very worthy discussion.
Kapil bhai’s shows are always excellent.
Indeed a commendable discourse . South Asian countries have to be inclusive in their approach for development and welfare of their ppl irrespective of religion or origin .👍👍👍
Beautiful discussion respect to all panelists especially for Kapil Saab 🙏
constructive and neutral discussion enjoyed on Bangladesh issue from otherside of the border
I feel this discussion is a healthy one.Govt. of India must take this line as far as Bangladesh is concerned.
Thanks for spending the true fact
Gr8 discussion. Especially at 34:55. When the government feels that the Indian diaspora across the world can help in achieving certain foreign policy goals what about these communities on either side of almost all of our borders?
Good discussion...
First time I have seen such a realistic, delicate and meaningful discussion.
It's because of the honorable guests who care about India and building relations with neighbors as a friend and family.
Not like the political leaders, specially by current Facist Government and their Hindu (I have doubt are they really Hindu or Gandu? As in Hinduism, their should not be any hatred, jealousy same as like other religion) leaders.
Let's bring peace among this region, by going beyond sensitive deviding issues, which are been played by politician as Trump card.
Insightful 👏
What a remarkable perspective right at the outset of this discussion. You have accurately identified the core of the issue. While per capita GDP may appear satisfactory, it holds little relevance for the common people, particularly the youth, who comprise nearly 50% of the population aged 1-28/29 years. The situation worsens when a regime deliberately enacts divisive policies and places its loyalists in positions of power at the expense of the broader population. The revolution we witnessed is the culmination of accumulated grievances, widespread corruption, and the destruction of institutions, including the judiciary, as primary causes. When internal issues are present, external factors inevitably come into play, albeit later. Therefore, India's alignment with the sentiment of the Bangladeshi people would be the right stance in the end.
That's an honest discussion, thanks.
It's really 💯 % Right
Brilliant discussion. The fact that India under Modi has isolated itself from the region is quite a set back. And trying to be more active on other international forums like BRICS, G-20 etc., I believe is too far fetched. Also, India becoming a poodle for America in trying to counter China world wide has done India no favor to it in South Asia. Lastly, Suhasini Haider made the most sense amongst all the participants. An extremely smart and educated woman.
It's a balanced discussion on Bangladesh,
Wow. Will you give her respect after what she has done to the country and its people? Oh, I am sorry, I forgot that she did more for India than what she did for Bangladesh.
Thanks sir, finally we appreciate your thoughts & idia. Only you are not propaganda. All you are educated people.
Take love from Bangladesh ❤
What a wonderful way to describe the situation, the guest says they see chaos and take advantage of it either from outside or inside. Kapil stands as a paragon of the inside variety.
I guess Kapil has so much struggle within himself when he has to say something critical about an islamic country, he always has to come back to India and its problems and equating the islamic state to India.
[ If you we view everything prosumer of the past or through chaina, pakistan presume we will not able to establish good base to what is going to happen in Bangladesh. ]
I never saw or listen any Indian or Indian media to held and speck such a constructive discussion about Bangladesh and it's current situation like this before. Thank you so much for representing real fact.
Thank you sir!
An honest discussion.
The most honest discussion I came across in any Indian media. Brilliant mind matters. From Bangladesh
Madame is so great , u raise very fundamental issues Bangladeshi Nation facing aggressively! Best wishes
Finally, a sensible discussion based on facts from India
When Indian couldn’t imagine or calculate such a revolutionary move coming it tells how poor the political relationship had been with Bangladesh! India Being Democratic, Pluralistic, Secularist it believed all the good things for India while treating for neighboring nations have been absolutely opposite, treated with all vague tools like conflicts like “Islamists” or “Minorities” etc. India needed to understand long ago that Bangladesh was friendly, secular, pluralistic and democracy-loving deprived of getting fairness in all institutions, India deprived from fair share of waters with LARGE trade deficits. India has been putting all their eggs on Hasina. Hasina dug her grave by destroying her future by leaving the country’s population behind handicapped, embraced the autocratic corruptions that killed the souls of PEOPLE over time.
India lost all friends around its large land boundaries. Policy and politics must be learned and adjusted by the US-Canada and EU nations relationship.
Neighborhood cannot be lost by wrongdoings. It can be repaired by doing things right ! Thank you India