The Honda Prologue Is Honda's First Serious EV for America: Did They Get It Right?
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A panoramic roof that actually opens!!!🤯👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
This is by far the nicest looking Honda (besides the Honda E) that I have seen in a very, very long time. What a beautiful color, too. Nice job, Honda!
Heh...more like GM
Honda "Co-developed the skateboard platform with GM"...?? You mean Honda bought the skateboard platform from GM
The only way to beat Tesla:
Have inventory
lower prices
no dealerships (LOL)
The Station Wagon is coming back.
Sounds like Honda is playing catch up and is still behind the right ball. Get it together Honda.
How could they produce a car that's 11" longer than a ID4 and have less luggage space? It's also going to cost more, and have slower charging.
I had made a reservation for the Blazer EV but because GM decided to get rid of CarPlay I canceled my reservation & was glad to hear that Honda will still offer it in their version. I'm still going to wait and see so maybe I'll look into the Prologue for the 25 model year.
In my opinion it's a case of too little too late from a lot of newcomers. Years to get ready for this model and they can't hardly crack the 300 mile mark, can't charge past 150kw PEAK! Also, no innovative storage solutions in the form of a frunk? day to day it will go unused, but for a vacation? Hell yes! now you have to decide if you bring a stroller, or a wagon for the kids. Or if you bring golf clubs or your kids clothes!
We're glad theirs's no car play. It's redundant, superfluous and captures all the other cars electronic features. Car Play is driver distracting, a pita to clear its pop up's, no reason what so ever to have it.
@@Dive-Bar-Casanova Then don't use it? It's not like the car forces it on you
There was a stop order for the Blazer so these get no chassis either. The Ulltium Platform is a joke now matter what name is on them. Get an EV9 Kia with seven seats at 50 grand THIS year. If you lease then you get the tax incentives but not if you buy it. You can buy later if you want or walk away to something better 3 years later. Carplay and Android Auto on all and KIA / Hyundai said they will always keep it because owners want it
@@travisyarbrough4033 The EV9 will be more capable but in no reality will it be $50K even before destination. It's going to have high demand and the lowest trim will probably be $60K for 1/10 of them with minimal ADM. I expect most of them (9/10) to be past $60K as it's a bigger vehicle than the Model Y and would compete with the likes of the Highlander which easily pushes past $60K when loaded.
I can take about 230 kw on my Ioniq 5. When the 350kw chargers are full, I use the 150’s. It only adds about 5 minutes to the charge time when going from about 20% - 80. It’s not a big deal really. If it keeps costs down, I wouldn’t mind sacrificing the speed.
Nice walk around guys. And yes Nathan, 1 of the 1st thoughts I had was about the scenery put up for you 2. Did it make you feel more at home? lol
Interesting, but I will wait for information that is not directly from the marketing department.
This is a good looking car! Honda finally enters the race. I wish them luck.
Pontiac Vibe
Looks like a decent car if they can get the price right. In terms of specs, it's mostly competitive with the ID.4, but the Model Y still has them both beat. Model Y has more cargo space, much faster charging, more power and for now, exclusive access to the Supercharger network. But if you just want a normal looking/driving car, then the Prologue looks like a good deal.
This is far better in every way
@@allentoyokawa9068 Care to elaborate?
Fit and finish, better repair options, parking sensors ( heh..that is insane that tesla did away with parking sensors)
Very nice! Much nicer than the Honda eNy1 that we will soon get in Europe.
I am curious if the Canoo will ever be released. I really want to see EVs with lots of space! Like over 75 cubic feet
Lets hope they don't go the route GM took. When they said the Blazer EV RS was going to be $51995, and now it comes with a price of $61,000. Nedless to say I canceled my reservation, especially when I saw a Model Y performance with white interior at $51,000 and change in Tesla Inventory!
Here is an idea for a future RUclips article: So of the 4 (Cadillac, Chevy, Acura, Honda) on this “skateboard,” which do you prefer and why?
The Blazer because our Local Chevy dealer has been amazing to us for decades. Our Honda dealer is brutally horrible.
I mean, if I'm gonna buy a GM, I have no interest in paying Honda for it.
On "frunk" being trademarked: No. Or not really anyway. Tesla never trademarked it. Other idiots have tried to trademark it long after Tesla started using it, but they have generally been struck down. (There are two recently filed (one by "Nickolas Brands LLC" and one by an e-cigarette company) that haven't been killed yet.)
3:40 - I wish all SUV-type vehicles with a top-mount spoiler would mount the rear wiper under the spoiler so that it sweeps down instead of up. (A downward half-circle, instead of an upward half circle.) It would hide the wiper visually, and probably have slightly better aerodynamics.
Yeah I’m sure you know more about aerodynamics than all these multi-billion dollar car companies that have been designing cars for aerodynamics with CFD and wind tunnels for decades now
Good looking entry from Honda into this category! Will be interesting to see the final production model.
Who'd of thought Chevrolet would start building Hondas and Acuras, this is a first. Actually, everything mechanical (Batteries, motors, electronics, wiring, suspension etc) is 2024 Chevy Blazer EV, everything cosmetic (Sheetmetal, interior design, wheels etc) is all 2024 Honda Prologue. This is based upon GMs Ultium EV platform.
This Honda is why it will take so long to get the Blazer EV. Same vehicle.
Nice looking EV and glad to see Honda finally getting onboard. Efficiency doesn't sound great with 200-300 miles of range from an 85kWh battery and only making 288 HP. I'm getting 260 miles give or take a few from my Polestar2 with a 78kWh 75 useable battery making 408 hp. The Prologue is certainly bigger than the Polestar2 but my kids are grown and gone so it's just me, the wifey and the dog so it's just right for us.
"No transmission hump". Shame they cant think that clearly in front instead of the gigantic pointless (unless actually needed because of a manual, doubt thats an issue with electric) console fracking up the front seat space and floor. Thats why I went with the Volt instead of the Clarity.
Kind of disappointing. Tesla MY is similar size but has a Frunk and bigger lower rear storage area. Seems like another legacy vehicle where they didn't take advantage of the better packaging an EV allows.
This is far better than a Tesla in every way
@@allentoyokawa9068 I just listed 2 ways the Honda is not. Not to mention, the model Y rear seat folds down flatter to make sleeping in the back better, not to mention the far superior Test Super Charger network.
@@allentoyokawa9068Tesla Model Y, for less money, will save hours on any long road trip. And the plug and charge experience would be way better.
Still, the Prologue looks nice. I'm sure most buyers will love it.
@@allentoyokawa9068What ways? It’s heavier than the equivalent Tesla, less efficient, has less storage, isn’t actually a Honda power train… There’s a whole lot of negatives vs. a Tesla.
It's funny, honda's best and most famous asset by far is their gas engine. Now they are using GM's powertrain for propulsion. So if a honda, isn't powered by honda anymore, is it still a honda? And also interested to know, will Honda dealerships advertise that the powertrain is from GM and not honda, or will they "kinda try to hide it." How would honda customers feel about that? One of the key reasons people buy a honda is for the reliability of the engine. Finally, I'm sure there's *some,* but I don't know if the majority of honda people feel that GM products are reliable or cross shop honda with GM (as opposed to say Toyota and to some extent Nissan).
the average person will have no clue about any of that. they will walk onto a honda lot and buy one. these types of powertrain sharing agreements have been around forever, and no one ever notices or cares. the difference between your average honda crossover and GM crossover is virtually zero.
I think what's important to know here is that an EV drivetrain is inherently far more reliable than internal combustion drivetrain.
In the US, all EVs have an eight year warranty on the drivetrain.
That hOndA font on the back is futt bugly
So this is basically a GM car Honda put out just to say they have a BEV on the market. I have very low expectations for this and don't think they will sell many of them.
Nice looking SUV. One thing which I don't like with these EVs is no spare. People talk about mileage all the time but no one mentions spares and at least with the Tesla, you are very prone to get flat tires. Already got 3 this yr over 2 cars. And neighbor got one 2-3 days after getting his Model Y. I would be happy to pay for it but there is no room to put that spare. I wish the new EV companies think about it.
Seems like it would be a good use for the frunk.
Good review, funny too. Will this thing tow and if so what kind of overall range? Thanks.
The main factor in towing is the aero impact of the trailer. If it has a low profile, then it might reduce range by 25%. A big flat-front trailer will reduce range by more like 45%, based on the testing done by experienced EV reviewers.
Looks interesting.
So it's a Blazer EV with CarPlay/Android Auto (big plus) but with service done at dealers that have zero experience with EVs. Interesting tradeoff.
Wait … EV fanboys are continually touting that they need no service …
@@Clyde-2055 They don't need much maintenance... Until they do need service (yeah, it does happen LOL) and their service rep has no idea how to help. I've been driving EVs for 6 years, I know how that goes.
Where are those magic fold seats they had in the fit when folded down!
Part of me wants one. Part of me is a little iffy about GM components and dealer mark ups.
I like this!
Fact:
That’s actually made by GM.
The true HONDA EV (from. Japan) will coming from 2025 - onwards, period.
If they can do a prologue please bring back the Prelude. It won’t sell, I just want to see it done 😂 A prelude has never been built without a standard sunroof, please keep that tradition. I love the name Prologue and it looks pretty cool too.
Compete w basic: model y. No frunk a minus. Looks good tho
talk about VINFAST and INEOS grenadier cars
As I watched the video it struck me that the car, while nice looking, has no personality. I experienced the same feeling years ago when I drove our 1997 Honda Civic.
No spare tire is a disappointment. The same for the lack of a frunk.
Toss in a high $40s price tag and I just want to look elsewhere.
The Kona EV does have a rear wiper.
Sounds like the dimensions are similar to an Ioniq 5.. so good ride quality and space but likely a larger turning radius.
The 5 is junk though
@@allentoyokawa9068 wrong
@@BowlerActuary "NHTSA has opened an investigation into the 2022 Kia EV6, which joins the Hyundai Ioniq 5 under a probe of loss of power during driving. Both EVs have been the subject of owner complaints that power is reduced or lost completely while the vehicle is being driven."...yeah, bricking themselves mid drive is pure fantasy...
@@puzer1 old news that has already been remedied in a consumer service campaign. I’m sure your favorite vehicles have zero issues coming out ever.
The skateboard concept I swear was first discussed like 15 years ago, but then nothing really came of it. Good to know that GM is finally getting it out there into the marketplace.
30 years ago....
@@siamean1sounds right! I remember there being lots of talk
GM invented the concept but didn't bother to use it. Now they're very late and falling further behind.
@billermanthegreat and my dad leased an EV1 on 1996. Gm voided his lease because he took it to the drag strip many times destroying Supras and 300ZXs. They eventually voided everyone's lease and scrapped the project. GM love affair with big oil destroyed it.
@@jamesengland7461Further behind who? Tesla is the only one to outsell GM in the EV space.
seems like a great vehicle with room for improvement. i may have missed it in the video but i wonder how much this costs... hopefully around $50k
At the end Nathan says it will “start in the $40k zone” according to Honda.
@@markhavelka4924 thanks haha I didn’t watch all the way to the end lmao
AWD with 200-300 miles of range is great for what I would want, but I will get an off-road focused EV whenever one is released.
Imagine going offroading and running out of battery lol i saw a f150 lighting with a generator in the bed 🤣
Have fun with that. When I'm out wheeling, I want to be able to dump a can of gas in the tank and drive out of the woods, not unfold a solar panel and call in sick for the next week.
@@TheCharleseye : If the solar panel won't work for you then can deploy the optional mast & sail. You'll just have to hope the wind is blowing in the right direction. 😄
i like it. but wagon it out a bit more. lower it about 2 inches and give it a powertrain like the dang ex30 so its a rocket.
Will they require dealership maintenance visits to maintain the warranty? Did they say what the warranty was going to be? Honda usually has the worst warranties.
I believe there is a requirement in the US to cover EV batteries or drive train for at least 8 years.
And batteries are different from engines in that miles aren't the main factor for longevity, it's mainly time. High mileage EVs last almost as long as low mileage.
Doesn't matter. Honda never honors their warranties on any of their products anyway.
@@davidmenasco5743 The main factor is actually dendrite formation as once the cathode and anode short that cell is useless. Heat contributed the most to dendrite formation. So either poor cooling and bad BMS or very aggressive charge profiles contribute to most of the cell wear. So if you avoid fast charging, charging past 90% and driving through deserts at high speed you'll have better life. If a battery cell sat still in a indoor room for a decade and was only topped to 60% once every 3 months it would probably be good even after 3 decades. The cells on Voyager 1 spacecraft are still functioning decades later.
@@Tokamak3.1415Gas tanks don't have those issues.
@@TheCharleseye gastanks will corrode from the inside out because gasoline and diesel are caustic. I had to replace a tank on my Ford Fairmont. The chance of a high voltage power line corroding vs a fuel pump and fuel line is 1 to 2 magnitudes less. It's why refrigerators can run for decades problem free. Power a fridge with a hydrocarbon combustion and it can't run maintenance free for decades. At the end of life batteries are recycled for 95-98% of their metal saving much more energy than mining.
Either March or April I'm thinking when that EV will come to market. I do have a request for this channel, Subaru Solterra, I would like to see a long term living with the vehicle. Nobody on RUclips have that review or have much of a review of that EV.
Nathan you remind me of Jim The Anvil Neidhart(in his prime of course)
Equinox EV 68 kWh battery $30,000 preview with 11 inch screens
Just get the Blazer EV
Too expensive. EV's need to be 30k so people will take a chance and get a second or third car and not feel like they're getting fleeced. Charging issues prevent EV's from being a main family car because travel is too difficult. Every trip is not on a perfect charger schedule.
Definitely think more and faster charges are absolutely necessary for mass adoption and a decent ownership experience, great point!!!;)
Not to worry, the charging infrastructure is being built out pretty rapidly. Not as rapidly as I'd like, but a lot of companies plus every state, and the feds, are all investing heavily in chargers.
@@davidmenasco5743Do they have any that take cash, yet? Are there any where you can pick up a few miles of charge and walk it back to your car, when you don't quite make it all the way to the charge station? Are there any where you can charge up, even if you left your phone at home?
EVs are still for wealthy people who don't worry about about such things. Most of the rest of us have had to walk a few miles with a gas can. Those who wouldn't stoop to such things are happy to pay $200 to get their car towed to a station. A great majority of people live in places where they can't just charge at home, either.
The charge station "solutions" will never be good enough for the majority. Without the majority adopting EVs, the entire thing is pointless. Each Tesla will continue to be surrounded by dozens of pre-2000 ICE vehicles that are being held together with duct tape and bubble gum, burning some oil and leaking some on the ground. Why? Because at least you can still put a $20 bill on a counter, and have a person turn on a pump, so you can get your kids to school and yourself to work that day.
GM Ultium platform is amazing. GM infotainment is amazing. It will also qualify for 7,500 tax credit since it is built in Mexico.
Mustang Mach E is built in Mexico. Ultium is built in US.
@@davidmenasco5743 check your sources. Honda Prologue will be built in Mexico along with Blazer EV. Ultium battery could be shipped from the US.
GM ultium platform is dead already. No megacastings
@@thomas735 oh really? I wonder how Kia/Hyundai selling their EVs without megacastings.
@@00_UU cheaper Korean labor. Korea has modernized a lot in 15 years but it's still quite a bit cheaper than Japan's labor market.
The most important item added to this car is the tow hook.
I can't wait for iEV-Tec eSHAWD
It's not a Honda it's a GM product 😂😂😂
too bad no front bench seat. No one really need a center console so 1980s styling. no family car need body hugging seat. it's meant to transport you family from one place to another. your going way too fast if your butt can't keep you in place and you need some external device to do that.
Who wants a Honda made by GM?
EGGZACTLY!!!;)
Not even GM guys.
They should call it E Honda
Like a sumo wrestler with a six pack
I really just wanted the Honda E. Oh well.
will it be able to share supercharger with tesla? non-tesla ev's are not great for longer road trips given the un-predictable charging on the road.
Yes, they said in the video it will be able to use the NACS (Tesla) charging.
The screen and climate controls are lifted straight from the 23 Colorado.
looks like drivers are gonna need a huge turning circle for this vehicle.
Compared to the Suburbans and full-size pickups they already drive?
No spare tire is a deal breaker
Most EVs don't come with a spare tire - too much weight. But some do come with a space where you can carry one if you want. You should look for one of those.
top AWD model has 288hp? that’s not competitive
Wasn't their first hybrid the prelude?
Their first hybrid in the US was the Insight. Prelude was a sport coupe favored by “tuners” in the late nineties after the first Fast & Furious came out.
@@eeyorebill04Trust me, it was favored by tuners before the first F&F movie came out. The Prelude existed from '78-'01, IIRC. Anything Honda and 2-door has been sought after for such things for a long time. Other than the Prelude, it was the CRX, Del Sol, etc (the 2-door Civics of any variant, really). There are things like the S2000 but they were pretty niche. The tuner scene loves cheap cars that can be spooled out as fast as you can afford to make them.
It’ll cost 80k 😂😂😂😂
Junkomatic? What were they thinking, 85kw only 300 mile range? Waste of the world's resources maybe?
Of course it's a waste of resources. It's an EV. 😊
Of course they got it right...
It's a frunk or a froot and imo it must be present for me to even consider an ev. However I haven't found a reason, ev or ice, to part with my 4 yr old Camry with 25,000 miles on it.
Shame on the price. If it was priced in the 30's it would be the top contender for my new commuter in the next twi years.
Can I get an Elite with 19” wheels, I just don’t like that the main software is google like the Volvo’s
Sure. Buy an Elite and then buy some 19" wheels. I mean, if you're willing to spend $40,000+ on a vehicle that, realistically, should only cost about $30,000, what's another few grand on wheels and tires? Buy them with a credit card and you can get that nice, high interest rate, too.
They should have called it the Prelude instead of Prologue, bring back the old name just for fun
People would’ve freaked out lol, I can see them maybe bringing back the prelude 👀
There will be a lot of backlash from Honda fans if Honda makes the Prelude an electric crossover.
@@damilolaakanni I know, that's why I said it would be fun :)
Nope. Like Ford calling the Mach-E a mustang.
@@damilolaakanni call it the Prelude Mach E
I really hate how the whole car industry keeps making wheels bigger and bigger. Please stop!
So wanted to like this thing. Doesn’t Honda understand that a good portion of their customers are trying to avoid the very company they’ve just climbed into bed with??
Buy a Kia, then. Or a Hyundai. Brand loyalty up to this point has largely been based on drivetrain reliability. Electric motors are nothing like ICEs, so there's no reason for brand loyalty until there are enough of these things to find out if anyone actually makes a demonstrably more reliable electric motor. I mean, why continue to be a loyal Honda customer, even if it had a Honda drivetrain? It's not like they have a proven track record of producing reliable electric motors for cars. For all you know, they could be complete turds when they do come out and get put to the test of time.
Although somewhat ugly, this is an ev I'd actually consider purchasing. Although I wish the battery pack was larger for the longer-range
What kind of ADAS does Honda offer on this new EV?
Should be built in and designed in JAPAN
That would be nice. Unfortunately the Japanese auto industry made a big mistake when they decided not to go electric.
They had good reasons for this decision. But it turns out, there were much better reasons to go electric.
They didn't want to be dependent on China for the battery materials (while the whole legacy auto industry was making excuses why EVs won't work, the Chinese were buying up the minerals and getting ready to DO IT). Now, the Japanese automakers are about to lose most of their customers to Chinese brands if they can't bring some good EVs to market RIGHT NOW.
And of course it's not just the Chinese. The companies that lose the most customers to Tesla are Honda and Toyota.
Five years from now, Japanese factories will be making a lot of very good EVs, with good quality, good reliability and good value. But I hope those companies can survive through the very difficult period between now and 5 years from now.
They build their plugins in Japan. My 2014 Accord and 2018 Clarity were both built in Japan @@davidmenasco5743
I'm not buying a Honda made by chevy. Nope.
IMO, Honda didn't do enough.
Honda makes too many varieties of gas engines for so many applications to take EV that seriously. Using a GM platform makes me think Honda is doing this for compliance.
I think they are using this to learn. The next platform will be theirs.
Not compliance. Pure panic.
@@MrLalasdYou can not „learn“ by selling a alien product. You can only learn by making all the mistakes yourself.
Not sure what you mean about too many engine varieties? They pretty much have one V6 and three main 4cyl, plus a 4cyl hybrid (for Honda vehicles, not including Acura). Definitely not the most confusing lineup.
@@BeaudoinEric Yes, i don‘t even know how many different motors Tesla makes. Or in which model year and type designation they used which motor. Only for bragging rights of course.
What's the reason for not including a spare? If that's a new trend like apple not including friggin wallchargers, I'm not going to be buying any NEW car for a long while.
They don't want you jacking the car up. you could damage the under carriage where the batteries are.
@@steveeb9567If it can't handle a jack, it can't handle US roads. What a POS.
android automotive is game changing!
Finally! A no gimmick EV from the Japanese. Hopefully this will fast track Toyota’s roadmap.
EV’s are the gimmick.
GM chassis. GM drivetrain. GM battery bank. GM software. How exactly is this a Japanese offering?
@@TheCharleseye it’s not. It doesn’t look like a GM and that was my point. I know it’s mostly a GM product with make up and that’s ok with me. Again, I like the Lyric but I don’t identify with America brands.
The Name and styling are great however this car is actually a GM product and can not compete with the Tesla Model Y, IMHO! Honda should have brought back the Honda Element boxy top hat on top of the electrified skateboard platform. Now an electrified Honda Element would be available for either a personal or commercial vehicle. The Shape and Storage of the Honda Element could carry family and the family pet(s) or as a UBER to carrying passengers or cargo (example flower shop or catering delivery vehicle).
“When this car comes out.”
“What we know so far.”
Honda has been a disappointment.
@7:15 they knew id be watching showing that nalgene bottles fit in the cup holders
Looks great, except for the stupid all glass roof. Hopefully, it be offered without it.
Paint it black!
I’m sure they will have the poverty spec for you without the roof.
@@jraheemjefcoat429 which is more protective of the sun, metal or glass... Enjoy your cancer 😂
Gm and honda team up
so is GM building these? I think both this and the ac look great. It's neat that GM isn't going to put apple CarPlay in them but you can still get the same basic car as the new caddy but with CarPlay for less $$
Car makers don't make front and rear bumpers anymore????
Of course not. If you have something to protect the car from low speed impacts - that is easy to just replace - you won't wreck it as easily and consider buying a new car. The easier a car gets totalled, the easier the next sale is.
Will sell lime hotcakes
They'll sell every one they make. Unfortunately they'll only make a few thousand.
GM stalled too long and didn't lock in battery supplies. Honda stalled even longer.
Eventually, the supply shortage will ease and the new Honda platform will come out, then they can really sell some numbers.
Still looking at Tesla for our first EV,I have a company car Chevrolet Bolt and the charging stations suck.A Tesla would give us access to Tesla network.
If you think the Tesla network is good, you should check out the network of 100% compatible gas stations in the US! It's like everywhere you look, there's another station that can get you back on the road in just a couple of minutes. Crazy, right? They even take cash and don't require you to use a special app! 🧠💥
6 lug wheels. It's not a Honda, its still a Chevy.
Its funny how an electric car STILL needs an extension cord... i know its a show car but cmon..
Its not a Honda. Except for the price & that silver H glued to front.
Switch Case front of camera. 😃
Model Y specs smoke it
isn't this bigger than the y though? And which specs are the y better?
@randomcheese1719 charging speed is half of the model y. Top trim is only 288hp. Starts at 48k with less hp than that and fwd AND doesn't qualify for the 7500 credit. Warranty is only 100k mile limit and tesla is 150k. Model y smokes it on value.
@randomcheese1719 prologue has much less cargo space too. 57 vs 73 with seats down.
@@randomcheese1719 30 vs 25 with seats up.
Still a Google car... sigh... still no go for me because of that. Why do these companies tie their destiny to another company, beats me. Google has a bad reputation when it comes to privacy. With cars like these, the user has no choice.
Honda does not have any EVs it had to partner with Chevy so it is built on the Chevy EV platform which could be good or bad only time will tell since any new buyer will need to deal with new modal bugs. I do love the design and color so much better then the Toyota Smurf blue color. Also with 19 inch wheels you will pay less for tires 21 inch tires are so expensive. Also no front trunk is a big disappoint.