Also got an Emerson Delica 4 which that training blade at the begginnig is like, and a regular delica, Emerson Karambit, Fox 479 karambit, and what I trained with in the military, the Ka-Bar of course.
Clarence Baluca a punch doesn't move faster then a knife slash or stab since its the same arm. the only thing the knife has going is the blade. its use and length. so your right with being able to stop the arm. just depends on the attack and weapon. a knife doesn't need a lot of force so you can swing it around and it will work. but a punch needs more power and thus will be slower. of course it won't cut some material or thick clothing as good or at all.
In real life if you want to live. RUN FUCKING RUN. DO NOT SQUARE UP WITH A PERSON WHO HAS A KNIFE THERE IS NO GLAMOR Theres a saying in a knife fight the winner goes to the hospital the loser goes to the morgue. There is no area that you can be stabbed or cut safely we are talking severed tendons and arteries with adrenaline pumping. Its game over if youre cut in an artery. No one squares up they leverage arm you and come in with a strong armed forward stab multiple times. Youll live from the initial attack long enough to die from blood loss. Theres a video of a kid from the UK who was stabbed and only once. He had a major surgery to save him and had a gigantic open wound on his back for 8 months. That had to stay open to drain. He survived the attacker got 8 years. He still has nerve damage. RUN.
If you ever check in real life, slash the throat or the inside of the thighs or biceps. If you stab, stab the gut or the sides of the neck behind the collar bones and rapidly step backward. Not run. Never look away form a threat untill it is no longer a threat. But this will ensure the agressor drops before you are also mortaly wounded. I am a realist. These "techniques" are fun to practice but in real life there are no drills and no practice. Life and death, the man across from you will be fighting just as hard as any human ever has to stay alive, he will be wild and savage and "pinning an elbow to the ribs", is a useless time expendature that could be used severing or puntcuring vital organs. But even more practical, rather than being a hero, avert, de-escalate, decieve, decompress, or last resort, run. You have to understand these guys are making money "training" you so therefore there will always be new "techniques" but in real life if you kill a person, even the bad guy of all bad guys, you will see a trial there will be lawyer fees and legal battles that will follow draing time and resources out of your life. So if you have ANY OTHER choice aside from killing him, that is the best course you can take. With that said, if hes trying to kill you, fight like its yiur last fight because it could be, these videos are cool and fun. But as far as traing goes the only thing you need is to know how to check and hit vital areas quickly. Throw punches with your oppisite hand. Kick for the groin, knees. Spit, headbutt. Throw dirt in thier eyes if you can. Knife to knife, you have to take any advantage you possibly can. Not pin an elbow.
+Jake Wagner Couldn't have said it better myself. I've wasted countless hours on youtube looking for a fighting style with real practical "techniques" only to find them being very unrealistic and impractical. Your enemy goes for a single hit and then stands completely still, like a fucking idiot, for you to mess him up, no resistance or improvisations whatsoever. Also they seem to relay on accurate predictions a little to much, like if you don't know EXACTLY when his next attack is coming and how he will deliver it your SCREWED. These demonstrations belong exclusively to movies and video games. Because they are fun to watch, they are entertaining. Hell, even movies are more realistic then this. Also, not once I've found a real-life street fight or war-footage where these "techniques" were put to use. The most complex "techniques" were always: block then hit or avoid then hit. Nothing went beyond that. No "twist his arm like that to force him to drop the knife then hit his knee to lower him " then " "hold his leg like this then grab him by the shoulder to throw him like that" or " block his hit like that then simultaneously twist his wrist like this to make him flip himself in mid-air and fall on his back" then "hold him by the neck to do this and that". They go on forever!!!! It is like you are fighting a brainless doll!!! The most insane ones were those who included guns. He holds a gun to your BACK and you just TURN around and next thing you know he is pointing his gun in a different direction for you to fuck him up. LOL he couldn't just pull his hand back? or take a step back to avoid it? how fast are you suppose to turn? and how do you make sure his hand moves with you? what if it doesn't work? might as well tell us to go kill ourselves. I remember Bruce Lee (the greatest martial artists of all times) saying in one of his interviews something like the following: "The more complex a technique is, the more dangerous and less practical it becomes in real life." He also said something like: "Each person has his own instinct and spontaneous fighting style, his own reflections. People think differently so it is natural for them to fight differently as well. Most, if not all, martial arts ignore that and just impose their own teachings on you even if that might serve as a disadvantage. We should not place restrictions on our students when their enemies have none. We should not tell them what to do and what not to do and instead tell them how they could do it better." This is why his fighting style included the most basic and simplest moves coming from many fighting styles. It also takes into account what works better for YOU. This was to make sure everyone finds what works best for him and improve on it. Also his "techniques" were, because of the fact that it takes real life situations into account, very simple and straightforward. This is to make sure they are very PRACTICAL for YOU. Block then hit, avoid then hit. Nothing crazy or over the top and I will take his word for it.
+Ahmed Lilo this isn't meant to be "live" sparring. it's meant so simply be a flow drill to get you used to the movements. you crawl, walk, run... just because crawling doesn't look like running doesn't mean it has no practical purpose. this video is far from perfect but unfortunately you are missing the point of the drill.
Dan Means I did understand the point of this drill, it is you who didn't understand my comment. First of all, of course this isn't suppose to be live sparring. HAHAHA you thing I didn't know that? you're missing the point completely! Let me try again. I don't believe in styles and whatever chains of moves or techniques they have to offer anymore. Not because that is what Bruce Lee said, but because I tried them and it didn't work out for me, as well as the majority of people. At least not in real life. You always go back to your instincts and brutality to win, or you end up using the most SIMPLISTIC moves and techniques you can remember. No one blocks a certain knife-attack only to have the arm which he used to block moved from one side to another!, then twist the direction of the knife 180 degree, only to slash his LEGS!! IF THAT IS NOT IMPRACTICAL I don't know what is. It is not about how much time you need. It is about how complex this move set is and how impractical as well. Why not just hit him in the guts? I do realize this is about self-defence but this guy is coming at you with a knife to KILL you!!
amen, brother. these are neat exercises but too choreographed. of course you may gain a measure of reflexive muscle memory, but real-life street situations are chaotic by nature. are you reverse gripping? go for the bowls, thighs, biceps. then, spin out or around, or push or shove
the funny thing about such "techniques" - if you are in the real knife fight you will never get to such close distance. You`ll try to sting from as far as it`s possible, these are reflexes, organic human behavior. And reversed grip is an entire bullshit as it shortens fighter`s reach. So even if experienced fighter lets his opponent to come this close (we`d rather have to call him "man with the sharp reflexes" coz experienced fighter wouldn`t allow this situation) he`ll not be able to block the knife. The drill is useless.
see the problem with wing chun and all other self defense shit again. those stationary drills that are more complex than swinging or sticking the knifr to your opponent WILL NOT WORK against live resistance and you wom't rely on it to save your life. and its gonna end up a pathetic 2 seconds of rapier fencing followed by a prison shanking contest: who will die *first* . we see this training not work in wing chun, krav maga, aikifo, Hamido and a lot of other bullshido systems namely kung fu styles. you need a basic REALISTIC approach and you need to ACTIVELY and DYNAMICALLY train with basic moves if you wanna keep breathing when push comes to show. you can john wick this guy all day long in front of the camera but when shit actually hits the fan and an attacker comes dashing with his knife it will be like you haven't picked a knife in your lifetime at all. this, this won't help, it will give you a very false sense of security and that is not good. think about it. and if you dont believe me, just google up leakreality or other gore sites and watch some real knife fights. there is plenty out there for you to learn from. wise your ass up this ain't mortal kombat there is no round 2 people.
Forward vs reverse grip has a lot of controversy. I'll clear it up by saying if you aren't a good fighter and just want to defend yourself, learn forward grip techniques, reverse grip won't do shit. If you're already a good fighter, only use reverse grip. This is because you will be using your hands and feet as your main mode of attack and forward grip will make it difficult, if not dangerous.
Yeah, that's similar to what I was thinking. I have always liked practicing boxing and MMA but never Kali and knife fighting until recently. I realized that reverse grip is a more secure grip plus I can use moves more similar to what I would naturally do without a knife. I don't feel like I'm fencing or sword fighting.
Drills are made to keep you moving and practice consistent motions. In a real fight you most likely won't be using full drills/combo movements. (An example being kempo learning blocks 1 through 8. You may use 1,3,7, instead of always 1,2,3 in a row). Usually you take the basic of a move, then you look for your openings and go from there. You learn basics like this in any martial art. It's all about how you use these techniquics with your own skill to your advantage, This helps muscle memory
We do train with them, you missed that part. Soke is so old, he doesn't leave Japan anymore to teach. You're missing the big difference between Budo Taijitsu and MMA, and other styles-We use weapons. And I have no problems breaking a bone on someone, or just embarrassing them, I figure I'd send you to someone, wherever you live, that runs a Dojo. I'm not offering to meet anyone out of sheer humbleness. That's why I sent you to a dojo, they're used to being tested by you likes. And won't hurt you
a system is a system, and I am thankful to be graced with the knowledge. as for the children commenting trying to prove what's better why don't y'all respect the perspective and leave the criticism in your head. a systemless system is understanding the perspective and creating your own path... there's a million ways to skin a cat
There really aren't any. There's so much that doesn't get explained in the video's. I've been training since 2000, in the Bujinkan. My sensei is a Shihan that travels to Japan yearly, and has other shihan visit frequently from Japan, who train directly under Massaki Hatsumi, the grandmaster. If you can find anything with Rob Renner, he's one the best at explaining all of what he's doing in his video's. And he's American who has been living in Japan for years. He even has a dojo there, himself.
Even worse - these drills are harmfull, as they give the "video watcher" an idea that he can control something in the knife fight (especially dangerous on this close distance). But he can not. So as said in one of the comments - BETTER RUN. Knife fight is a lottery. If you are an extremely good trained fighter you`ll have higher chances to survive, but it is still a lottery.
If you think the attacker wont twist the wrist and keep going after your "block" you are dreaming. If your priority is not to stop the knife from moving at all by grappling, then you are asking yourself to get killed. All this wing chung with knifes is all bull shit. The longer you play that game the most chances to get cut. You should be controling wrist, elbow shoulder etc... Not this
Of course you lose interest when it comes to actually visiting a dojo, the only place someone can teach you, and end your curiosity. Stand and call BS far away from those who would prove you wrong. You're opinion is just ignorant. I tried to help you, but you deside to learn the hard way. So be it. All the moves MMa fighters use, are from the Bujinkan. The Japanese thought of it, and wrote it in a scroll many years ago. Do some research outside youtube. You may learn something for once.
It's an awful lot of work, becoming efficient with a knife. Now, throw in the mix the umpteen dozen other weapons, not including firearms. Knife fighting isn't a sport, and this training causes people focus on the knife, more than the opponent, who controls the knife. It's a rare case 2 people will have a knife, and want to attack each other. Good training, though. All martial arts are helpful to a degree. This is elaborate stuff, that rarely has a need in today's society.
Yeah, at 3 am, I'm liable to spell something wrong. Ganseki nage isn't a hip throw. Maybe that's why you have such a negative outlook, you have no real idea of what's actually happening in video's you watch.
To me it just seems like a bad idea to do a whole lot of thrusting at all with a folding knife, but even more so in reverse grip. I know you're probably still quite unlikely to overcome locks like the Spyderco lock backs or a Benchmade axis lock for example but I'd still be nervous chancing it much...
Eric has clearly been diligent in his skill building. Very impressive. Thanks Mr. J. I'm doing everything I can to work these drills in my current circumstances, and as soon a I can do more, I will.
Actually knife disarms are extremely useful - plenty of potential street attackers will have a combat knife or switchblade, if not a gun. Knowing a disarm without a knife in your hand is crucial, but if you have a blade on you (or once you take your attackers), even better.
Agreed. Mike is the man when it comes to the use of/defense against anything sharp and pointy, and like the arts MBC is derived from, it carries over to general empty hand self-defense very well. I haven't mastered the FMAs, so I appreciate the concision and similarity of the techniques. As much as one may want to, there are still quite a few places where you can't legally carry a handgun, whereas a knife may be okay, and you just may have to use it for more than cutting open packages.
Gunslinger800 I’m going to get it gives you more strength in your jabs. And you can use your entire forearm to block and return a cut fast and simultaneous
Great video, I always follow your work in the firearms magazines whenever you contribute or write anything. Curious, what is your go to defensive blade, everyone loves different things about different makers and blades, what would yours be?
And yes, guns are mostly better, IF you have enough distance to get it clear and fire. But most experienced cops know that if you go up against a knife within 10 or 12 feet, no matter how it ends you ARE going to get cut. And a competent enemy won't show a knife until he's close enough to use it. At which point you won't have time to bring a gun into play. Three times a knife is generally better than a gun; in a crowd, at very close quarters, and in the dark. As for other weapons, stun guns are unreliable, knucks and blackjacks bring you in too close, and sprays simply aren't universally effective. A good club has potential IF you know how to use it (training in fencing or something comparable), but the way most people use a club is pretty ineffective and leaves them wide open to a good counter. Knives and guns are really the only effective weapons without years of training, and the optimal choice is to carry both...
what i like about mr. janich is as his method evolves it no longer resemble the arts( silat-fma) in their traditional manner but morph into the combat mode that is applicable in confronting a western style aggressor with a larger build. mind you this is not a pot shot at silat or fma as i am a practitioner of both(sayoc kali-pekiti tirsia and kuntao silat) but this is very well suited to the concrete jungle of america. sempok/dempok would not be very wise to apply in a glass filled alley.
I don't carry weapons, they're laying around everywhere you go. If I take a weapon from an opponent, I usually toss it far from both of our reach. Killing is easy, preventing damage to either person in the fight is the hard part.
Oh yeah, can already tell the speed stops have evolved from the Master Fighting Folders DVDs. Janich is always reviewing, adding, and deleting from his unique system of edge and unarmed tactics. I'd be calling Mr. Rigg up if it wasn't for the fact I had someone pick me up a copy when they were at the MBC 2012 camp. I get my copy this Saturday. Can't wait! Also excited by the Keen Yojimbo trainers
+Christian Schill It is no necessary, it is optional. Some people just don´t want to be helpless victims and since A) MANY people carry knives with them (and knife attacks are much more likely to kill you) B) you can´t carry pistol everywhere so if you carry a knife, its better to know how to use it.
+tarkurius well, you always carry your mouth around you to talk you out of most situations. Depending on where you live or how good you are in running, that might not be enough. I love knives, keep them in good shape and sharp but prefer them in use as a chef's knife. I actually have also a nice Al Mare, but's that's mostly a sheer weapon, quite useless at cooking. Your movie is very well made. Enjoy your passion, cheers from Alsace, Christian.
+Christian Schill but not everyone in the world is interested in being civil. And not everyone is going to bother to listen while you try to talk yourself out of a situation.
When you throw someone, and you're standing on his foot, the body travels, but his foot stays in place, pretty much mangling all the tendons and ligaments. Or, it breaks the ankle. either way, it's been used for about a thousand years in combat.
I like filipino knife fighting, can we add more of the chi sao experience. Not only block-cut-check....but cut-cut-cut when block...more like the pak sao-fak sao-lan sao stuff. Thanks!!
It's a strength and speed, over strength and speed concept. Very limited in design, for the trainee, having to exert so much energy in a fight, this way. Hope there's not many attackers.
These things are fun to watch and do like bo stick spinning tutorials. None of these video actually help you in fights. if you're actually anticipating a potentially lethal fight, I suggest you get a firearm instead... also if you're the victim make sure its legal and you know how to use it. if it's a non-lethal fight might I suggest a taser (if its legal), or pepper spray if at all possible. (feel free to use chairs, batons, spud guns, etc.). Try to avoid small stuff like knives and fists
"None of these video actually help you in fights." Do you think anyone thinks that? This is just a demo of a technique, if you like it, you can go to the dojo and practice with an MBC instructor. I doubt the video was uploded to "help you win fights" just by watching it.
As a lefty myself, I use my right hand as my dominant knife / cutting hand. Its really convenient for transitions since my left hand is my shooting hand.
MBC teaches response to attack angles, not specific hands. So your response to and angle 1 or angle 3 attack is the same, regardless of which hand they send it with.
great techniques, I train a lot with pikal and Wharrencliffe, I got a dual-concept blade designed by Tops (C Despins) the Backbite and it's meant for these techniques.
The Spydercol Paramilitary 2 is my favorite carry knife overall, fixed blade I carry the Tops Backbiter or Tops Street Scalpel or Lions Toothpick. or Ka Bar USMC Short.
Honestly knives are very tricky to wield even in experienced hands. Pepper spray with purple dye will blind you're attacker and oh yes it hurts! Now you could say that having a knife could eliminate a threat but that could go either way. Better to blind a man and have both. Unless were talking about a man to man fight but we all know those don't happen anymore.
Two completely different things. You shouldn't use pepper spray in the face of deadly force. You shouldn't use deadly force (a knife) in the face of a non serious/non lethal threat. The 2 tools might be classified as self-defense equipment, but never confuse lethal tools with condiments.
These exercises remind me of wing chun's sticking hands and rolling bong sau they are good to develop feeling like this would except if you did this blind folded the consequences would be a lot worse haha I will ad these to my excercises thanks for posting
I feel like the aggressor with a hammer grip wouldn't be standing so straight if attacking. Why have his center mass so close to the enemies attacks.Look at US Airborne vs. An Israeli defense knife fight. They are constantly moving and won't just stand still. Fighting is not as cookie cutter as is made to be in this video.
Assuming you're fast enough to perform a check in the first place, after you "check" why don't you just go for his body rather than focus so much on his arm? And in the time you cut upward and hook, that is time he can use to make a movement with that free arm, step, or something. Or what if he has a second weapon or steps more strongly into you? What if he prefers the blade facing inward and after you check, he pulls back and cuts your arm? Or if after you hook he delivers a nice knee to the groin? There's too many what-if's against a very singular approach of attack. 1. Check, 2. Cut. 3. Hook. 4. Cut. That's 3 moves in which you are giving your opponent a chance to react back and move; a single step or simultaneous punch to your face would ruin the entire point of the drill. It also assumes your opponent is going to be striking in a smooth, predictable pattern and angle within your own method. Most knife fights anyone is going to get into is against a street thug clown who thinks having a knife gives him an advantage, and all he's going to do is wildly sling and thrust with it against which all technique goes down the toilet.
Facepalm. Your comment assumes this drill is all you need to know. Worse, your comment assumes that Michael Janich, is telling you that this is the one move you need to know. Do you even know who Janich is? Wake up! Turn off the wofo and go to the gym and try other MBC styles if you don't like this. Then report back.
First video I've found that actually gives some instruction on reverse grip instead of focusing on the pros and cons
Libre knife fighting is a reversed edged methodology.
It’s just drills bro
Also got an Emerson Delica 4 which that training blade at the begginnig is like, and a regular delica, Emerson Karambit, Fox 479 karambit, and what I trained with in the military, the Ka-Bar of course.
How do you block a super fast reverse grip slash ? almost like impossible unless you moved away..
close in if hes close or no room to move other wise yeah step back.
Clarence Baluca he's talKing about a knife slash not a punch.
Clarence Baluca a punch doesn't move faster then a knife slash or stab since its the same arm. the only thing the knife has going is the blade. its use and length. so your right with being able to stop the arm. just depends on the attack and weapon. a knife doesn't need a lot of force so you can swing it around and it will work. but a punch needs more power and thus will be slower. of course it won't cut some material or thick clothing as good or at all.
do you suppose you can shorten your intro?
right?!
The intro is straight from his video series
Just remember though, this is a training drill designed to create muscle memory. It is not actual fighting technique.
The main problem with any of these videos: Actual fights are not as predictable.
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This comment made my day! 😂
+nzhotpepper Yeah, it would be much better if they used real blades and made contact (dripping with sarcasm)
The intro is annoying as hell
@bangmeister2012 me too
In real life if you want to live. RUN FUCKING RUN. DO NOT SQUARE UP WITH A PERSON WHO HAS A KNIFE THERE IS NO GLAMOR Theres a saying in a knife fight the winner goes to the hospital the loser goes to the morgue. There is no area that you can be stabbed or cut safely we are talking severed tendons and arteries with adrenaline pumping. Its game over if youre cut in an artery. No one squares up they leverage arm you and come in with a strong armed forward stab multiple times. Youll live from the initial attack long enough to die from blood loss. Theres a video of a kid from the UK who was stabbed and only once. He had a major surgery to save him and had a gigantic open wound on his back for 8 months. That had to stay open to drain. He survived the attacker got 8 years. He still has nerve damage. RUN.
If you ever check in real life, slash the throat or the inside of the thighs or biceps. If you stab, stab the gut or the sides of the neck behind the collar bones and rapidly step backward. Not run. Never look away form a threat untill it is no longer a threat. But this will ensure the agressor drops before you are also mortaly wounded. I am a realist. These "techniques" are fun to practice but in real life there are no drills and no practice. Life and death, the man across from you will be fighting just as hard as any human ever has to stay alive, he will be wild and savage and "pinning an elbow to the ribs", is a useless time expendature that could be used severing or puntcuring vital organs. But even more practical, rather than being a hero, avert, de-escalate, decieve, decompress, or last resort, run. You have to understand these guys are making money "training" you so therefore there will always be new "techniques" but in real life if you kill a person, even the bad guy of all bad guys, you will see a trial there will be lawyer fees and legal battles that will follow draing time and resources out of your life. So if you have ANY OTHER choice aside from killing him, that is the best course you can take. With that said, if hes trying to kill you, fight like its yiur last fight because it could be, these videos are cool and fun. But as far as traing goes the only thing you need is to know how to check and hit vital areas quickly. Throw punches with your oppisite hand. Kick for the groin, knees. Spit, headbutt. Throw dirt in thier eyes if you can. Knife to knife, you have to take any advantage you possibly can. Not pin an elbow.
+Jake Wagner Couldn't have said it better myself. I've wasted countless hours on youtube looking for a fighting style with real practical "techniques" only to find them being very unrealistic and impractical. Your enemy goes for a single hit and then stands completely still, like a fucking idiot, for you to mess him up, no resistance or improvisations whatsoever. Also they seem to relay on accurate predictions a little to much, like if you don't know EXACTLY when his next attack is coming and how he will deliver it your SCREWED. These demonstrations belong exclusively to movies and video games. Because they are fun to watch, they are entertaining. Hell, even movies are more realistic then this. Also, not once I've found a real-life street fight or war-footage where these "techniques" were put to use. The most complex "techniques" were always: block then hit or avoid then hit. Nothing went beyond that.
No "twist his arm like that to force him to drop the knife then hit his knee to lower him " then " "hold his leg like this then grab him by the shoulder to throw him like that" or " block his hit like that then simultaneously twist his wrist like this to make him flip himself in mid-air and fall on his back" then "hold him by the neck to do this and that". They go on forever!!!! It is like you are fighting a brainless doll!!! The most insane ones were those who included guns. He holds a gun to your BACK and you just TURN around and next thing you know he is pointing his gun in a different direction for you to fuck him up. LOL he couldn't just pull his hand back? or take a step back to avoid it? how fast are you suppose to turn? and how do you make sure his hand moves with you? what if it doesn't work? might as well tell us to go kill ourselves.
I remember Bruce Lee (the greatest martial artists of all times) saying in one of his interviews something like the following: "The more complex a technique is, the more dangerous and less practical it becomes in real life." He also said something like: "Each person has his own instinct and spontaneous fighting style, his own reflections. People think differently so it is natural for them to fight differently as well. Most, if not all, martial arts ignore that and just impose their own teachings on you even if that might serve as a disadvantage. We should not place restrictions on our students when their enemies have none. We should not tell them what to do and what not to do and instead tell them how they could do it better."
This is why his fighting style included the most basic and simplest moves coming from many fighting styles. It also takes into account what works better for YOU. This was to make sure everyone finds what works best for him and improve on it. Also his "techniques" were, because of the fact that it takes real life situations into account, very simple and straightforward. This is to make sure they are very PRACTICAL for YOU. Block then hit, avoid then hit. Nothing crazy or over the top and I will take his word for it.
+Ahmed Lilo this isn't meant to be "live" sparring. it's meant so simply be a flow drill to get you used to the movements. you crawl, walk, run... just because crawling doesn't look like running doesn't mean it has no practical purpose. this video is far from perfect but unfortunately you are missing the point of the drill.
Dan Means I did understand the point of this drill, it is you who didn't understand my comment. First of all, of course this isn't suppose to be live sparring. HAHAHA you thing I didn't know that? you're missing the point completely! Let me try again.
I don't believe in styles and whatever chains of moves or techniques they have to offer anymore. Not because that is what Bruce Lee said, but because I tried them and it didn't work out for me, as well as the majority of people. At least not in real life. You always go back to your instincts and brutality to win, or you end up using the most SIMPLISTIC moves and techniques you can remember.
No one blocks a certain knife-attack only to have the arm which he used to block moved from one side to another!, then twist the direction of the knife 180 degree, only to slash his LEGS!! IF THAT IS NOT IMPRACTICAL I don't know what is. It is not about how much time you need. It is about how complex this move set is and how impractical as well. Why not just hit him in the guts? I do realize this is about self-defence but this guy is coming at you with a knife to KILL you!!
amen, brother. these are neat exercises but too choreographed. of course you may gain a measure of reflexive muscle memory, but real-life street situations are chaotic by nature. are you reverse gripping? go for the bowls, thighs, biceps. then, spin out or around, or push or shove
to go in to anything with out an understanding of it is to fail befor it starts
They are training guys - training muscle memory. Automatic reflex.
I think the technical term is larping
the funny thing about such "techniques" - if you are in the real knife fight you will never get to such close distance. You`ll try to sting from as far as it`s possible, these are reflexes, organic human behavior. And reversed grip is an entire bullshit as it shortens fighter`s reach. So even if experienced fighter lets his opponent to come this close (we`d rather have to call him "man with the sharp reflexes" coz experienced fighter wouldn`t allow this situation) he`ll not be able to block the knife. The drill is useless.
“Which one is right, Yes”. I love it just win the fight for your life, there are no rules just laws. Stay safe. 👍🇺🇸🤺
see the problem with wing chun and all other self defense shit again. those stationary drills that are more complex than swinging or sticking the knifr to your opponent WILL NOT WORK against live resistance and you wom't rely on it to save your life. and its gonna end up a pathetic 2 seconds of rapier fencing followed by a prison shanking contest: who will die *first* . we see this training not work in wing chun, krav maga, aikifo, Hamido and a lot of other bullshido systems namely kung fu styles. you need a basic REALISTIC approach and you need to ACTIVELY and DYNAMICALLY train with basic moves if you wanna keep breathing when push comes to show. you can john wick this guy all day long in front of the camera but when shit actually hits the fan and an attacker comes dashing with his knife it will be like you haven't picked a knife in your lifetime at all. this, this won't help, it will give you a very false sense of security and that is not good. think about it. and if you dont believe me, just google up leakreality or other gore sites and watch some real knife fights. there is plenty out there for you to learn from. wise your ass up this ain't mortal kombat there is no round 2 people.
Sir, i love the concepts; but that second phase: Palisut , you made a grave mistake. You blocked live blade facing downward. 8:34
Forward vs reverse grip has a lot of controversy. I'll clear it up by saying if you aren't a good fighter and just want to defend yourself, learn forward grip techniques, reverse grip won't do shit. If you're already a good fighter, only use reverse grip. This is because you will be using your hands and feet as your main mode of attack and forward grip will make it difficult, if not dangerous.
Yeah, that's similar to what I was thinking. I have always liked practicing boxing and MMA but never Kali and knife fighting until recently. I realized that reverse grip is a more secure grip plus I can use moves more similar to what I would naturally do without a knife. I don't feel like I'm fencing or sword fighting.
fighting is all about muscle memory, if you dont put it into practice these video wont serve you much purpose
what's with all this kali silat nonsense drills - it gets too stylized - learn a few basic moves - then spar spar spar
Drills are made to keep you moving and practice consistent motions. In a real fight you most likely won't be using full drills/combo movements. (An example being kempo learning blocks 1 through 8. You may use 1,3,7, instead of always 1,2,3 in a row). Usually you take the basic of a move, then you look for your openings and go from there. You learn basics like this in any martial art. It's all about how you use these techniquics with your own skill to your advantage, This helps muscle memory
We do train with them, you missed that part. Soke is so old, he doesn't leave Japan anymore to teach. You're missing the big difference between Budo Taijitsu and MMA, and other styles-We use weapons. And I have no problems breaking a bone on someone, or just embarrassing them, I figure I'd send you to someone, wherever you live, that runs a Dojo. I'm not offering to meet anyone out of sheer humbleness. That's why I sent you to a dojo, they're used to being tested by you likes. And won't hurt you
I like this video and al. But I ca't resist XD
Grown men playing Patta-cake. :]
🤔thanks for that without prejudice
Hey, this looks ALOT like Datu Kelly Worden and Jimmy Keating's stuff!
Thank you for your videos. Can't believe I'm just discovering them now.
One question.. Your Crossada looks a lot like a Gunting, are they the same thing... or are they different... Just asking.
The guy on the right at 6:00 looks like a goddamned albino T Rex.
a system is a system, and I am thankful to be graced with the knowledge. as for the children commenting trying to prove what's better why don't y'all respect the perspective and leave the criticism in your head. a systemless system is understanding the perspective and creating your own path... there's a million ways to skin a cat
Million ways to skin a Cat, but only ONE way to do it properly.
@@steverogers4612 a dead cat is a dead cat, a fight is unpredictable.
@@litewerx4409 Not true at all.
@@steverogers4612 if you think every fight is the same you clearly lack the experience to speak on the subject.
@@litewerx4409My opinion doesn't change the subject or the reality of the outcome.
There really aren't any. There's so much that doesn't get explained in the video's. I've been training since 2000, in the Bujinkan. My sensei is a Shihan that travels to Japan yearly, and has other shihan visit frequently from Japan, who train directly under Massaki Hatsumi, the grandmaster. If you can find anything with Rob Renner, he's one the best at explaining all of what he's doing in his video's. And he's American who has been living in Japan for years. He even has a dojo there, himself.
I admire that you admit training for so long in the Bujinkan. Would it count, if Mr. Janich ate japanese food for 30 years?
Even worse - these drills are harmfull, as they give the "video watcher" an idea that he can control something in the knife fight (especially dangerous on this close distance). But he can not. So as said in one of the comments - BETTER RUN. Knife fight is a lottery. If you are an extremely good trained fighter you`ll have higher chances to survive, but it is still a lottery.
What if dude is left handed?
What if dude has two knives ? ^^
different drill lol
Adapt! Or as most fma instructors would say - flow!
Doesn't matter.... treat it as an Angle 2 attack.
@@abcxyz9534 then you have to get to the outside, so don't Meet. Pass, Follow, or Crossada
If you think the attacker wont twist the wrist and keep going after your "block" you are dreaming. If your priority is not to stop the knife from moving at all by grappling, then you are asking yourself to get killed. All this wing chung with knifes is all bull shit. The longer you play that game the most chances to get cut. You should be controling wrist, elbow shoulder etc... Not this
I presume that you learn this art from Filipino Kali, Escrima knife. We called it "Palusot" rather than "Palisut".
ya know all the guy has to do is to twist his wrist inwards and the inside of your blocking arm gets skinned off...
Of course you lose interest when it comes to actually visiting a dojo, the only place someone can teach you, and end your curiosity. Stand and call BS far away from those who would prove you wrong. You're opinion is just ignorant. I tried to help you, but you deside to learn the hard way. So be it. All the moves MMa fighters use, are from the Bujinkan. The Japanese thought of it, and wrote it in a scroll many years ago. Do some research outside youtube. You may learn something for once.
It's an awful lot of work, becoming efficient with a knife. Now, throw in the mix the umpteen dozen other weapons, not including firearms. Knife fighting isn't a sport, and this training causes people focus on the knife, more than the opponent, who controls the knife. It's a rare case 2 people will have a knife, and want to attack each other. Good training, though. All martial arts are helpful to a degree. This is elaborate stuff, that rarely has a need in today's society.
I would really like to see some in left on right handed drills. Great video!
Yeah, at 3 am, I'm liable to spell something wrong. Ganseki nage isn't a hip throw. Maybe that's why you have such a negative outlook, you have no real idea of what's actually happening in video's you watch.
To me it just seems like a bad idea to do a whole lot of thrusting at all with a folding knife, but even more so in reverse grip. I know you're probably still quite unlikely to overcome locks like the Spyderco lock backs or a Benchmade axis lock for example but I'd still be nervous chancing it much...
Eric has clearly been diligent in his skill building. Very impressive. Thanks Mr. J. I'm doing everything I can to work these drills in my current circumstances, and as soon a I can do more, I will.
Actually knife disarms are extremely useful - plenty of potential street attackers will have a combat knife or switchblade, if not a gun. Knowing a disarm without a knife in your hand is crucial, but if you have a blade on you (or once you take your attackers), even better.
Agreed. Mike is the man when it comes to the use of/defense against anything sharp and pointy, and like the arts MBC is derived from, it carries over to general empty hand self-defense very well. I haven't mastered the FMAs, so I appreciate the concision and similarity of the techniques. As much as one may want to, there are still quite a few places where you can't legally carry a handgun, whereas a knife may be okay, and you just may have to use it for more than cutting open packages.
See the problem I have with that in a real situation it’s not choreographed
Love the animation leads, Mike! Awesome
Disarm an attack otherwise if you stand there and play patty cake your gonna go down lol just saying
Exactly right! Pin and disarm.
these drills are not force on force. Its about building fundamentals.
This is the content that youtube really lacks of
@Andy born, these are reaction drills, not real combat.
hate the music - we need less drama an more calm in a life and death training
in real life knife atack is lightning speed so i want to see this in real speed and how look like,thx.
these dudes are chopping each other up like fruit salad.
Thank you very much for this one sir...this is what ive been waiting for!!
What are the advantages of the reverse grip over a standard? Personal preference?
Gunslinger800 I’m going to get it gives you more strength in your jabs. And you can use your entire forearm to block and return a cut fast and simultaneous
Mr Janich is the real deal. Its a real treat to see him on youtube.
Great video, I always follow your work in the firearms magazines whenever you contribute or write anything. Curious, what is your go to defensive blade, everyone loves different things about different makers and blades, what would yours be?
Mr. Janich carries a folding knife he designed for Spyderco called the Yojimbo2, and often also carries a second knife; a Delica or Endura.
I came here thinking this is a joke. i was very wrong
Taken right from the old Keating tapes
It's Kali escrima it's a Filipino martial arts
If only is it possible in reality...
thumbs are out to get cut.
This is why I carry a tomahawk
Carry both.
And yes, guns are mostly better, IF you have enough distance to get it clear and fire. But most experienced cops know that if you go up against a knife within 10 or 12 feet, no matter how it ends you ARE going to get cut. And a competent enemy won't show a knife until he's close enough to use it. At which point you won't have time to bring a gun into play. Three times a knife is generally better than a gun; in a crowd, at very close quarters, and in the dark. As for other weapons, stun guns are unreliable, knucks and blackjacks bring you in too close, and sprays simply aren't universally effective. A good club has potential IF you know how to use it (training in fencing or something comparable), but the way most people use a club is pretty ineffective and leaves them wide open to a good counter. Knives and guns are really the only effective weapons without years of training, and the optimal choice is to carry both...
what i like about mr. janich is as his method evolves it no longer resemble the arts( silat-fma) in their traditional manner but morph into the combat mode that is applicable in confronting a western style aggressor with a larger build. mind you this is not a pot shot at silat or fma as i am a practitioner of both(sayoc kali-pekiti tirsia and kuntao silat) but this is very well suited to the concrete jungle of america. sempok/dempok would not be very wise to apply in a glass filled alley.
I don't carry weapons, they're laying around everywhere you go. If I take a weapon from an opponent, I usually toss it far from both of our reach. Killing is easy, preventing damage to either person in the fight is the hard part.
The martial art that you are using in combination with your weapon control looks like Wing Chun. Is that accurate?
doesnt it annoye you thought knowing your target still have a free hand to do whatever with while you trying to close the gap ?
Why do we check and not trap
Oh yeah, can already tell the speed stops have evolved from the Master Fighting Folders DVDs. Janich is always reviewing, adding, and deleting from his unique system of edge and unarmed tactics. I'd be calling Mr. Rigg up if it wasn't for the fact I had someone pick me up a copy when they were at the MBC 2012 camp. I get my copy this Saturday. Can't wait! Also excited by the Keen Yojimbo trainers
Blocking from the out side you should block from the elbow to the shoulder so you don't get elbowed.
Why is it necessary to train such things?
+Christian Schill It is no necessary, it is optional. Some people just don´t want to be helpless victims and since A) MANY people carry knives with them (and knife attacks are much more likely to kill you) B) you can´t carry pistol everywhere so if you carry a knife, its better to know how to use it.
+tarkurius well, you always carry your mouth around you to talk you out of most situations. Depending on where you live or how good you are in running, that might not be enough. I love knives, keep them in good shape and sharp but prefer them in use as a chef's knife. I actually have also a nice Al Mare, but's that's mostly a sheer weapon, quite useless at cooking. Your movie is very well made. Enjoy your passion, cheers from Alsace, Christian.
+Christian Schill but not everyone in the world is interested in being civil. And not everyone is going to bother to listen while you try to talk yourself out of a situation.
Become a wolf and you will be eaten by flea.
+Christian Schill Are you professionally stupid?
When you throw someone, and you're standing on his foot, the body travels, but his foot stays in place, pretty much mangling all the tendons and ligaments. Or, it breaks the ankle. either way, it's been used for about a thousand years in combat.
#WHICHONESRIGHTYES
I like filipino knife fighting, can we add more of the chi sao experience. Not only block-cut-check....but cut-cut-cut when block...more like the pak sao-fak sao-lan sao stuff. Thanks!!
It's a strength and speed, over strength and speed concept. Very limited in design, for the trainee, having to exert so much energy in a fight, this way. Hope there's not many attackers.
it is assumed u are not to walk away harmless...the main thing is to stay alive and come out the victor regardless of the damage u took
Do you guys do any "sparring" with knife facsimiles?
At six minutes in the other guy looks like a gay t rex. Otherwise - good info
i like it. a simple Q. how long does a street knife fight takes/last? thanks for sharing.
Oh wow a video on how to use a pocket knife for self defense, nice one chaps keep up the good work:)
I like the intro!
Would like to know where you got the music?
7:28 Spectacular!
Some good stuff here. Drills build skills
Sweet drill sir thank you for sharing!
Then you're watching the wrong video. This has nothing to do with guns.
These things are fun to watch and do like bo stick spinning tutorials. None of these video actually help you in fights. if you're actually anticipating a potentially lethal fight, I suggest you get a firearm instead... also if you're the victim make sure its legal and you know how to use it. if it's a non-lethal fight might I suggest a taser (if its legal), or pepper spray if at all possible. (feel free to use chairs, batons, spud guns, etc.). Try to avoid small stuff like knives and fists
"None of these video actually help you in fights." Do you think anyone thinks that? This is just a demo of a technique, if you like it, you can go to the dojo and practice with an MBC instructor. I doubt the video was uploded to "help you win fights" just by watching it.
What if your left handed and he is right handed?
As a lefty myself, I use my right hand as my dominant knife / cutting hand. Its really convenient for transitions since my left hand is my shooting hand.
+Chris Conwell then you work mirror image. that is why you train both sides of your body.
MBC teaches response to attack angles, not specific hands. So your response to and angle 1 or angle 3 attack is the same, regardless of which hand they send it with.
great techniques, I train a lot with pikal and Wharrencliffe, I got a dual-concept blade designed by Tops (C Despins) the Backbite and it's meant for these techniques.
Thanks guys
The Spydercol Paramilitary 2 is my favorite carry knife overall, fixed blade I carry the Tops Backbiter or Tops Street Scalpel or Lions Toothpick. or Ka Bar USMC Short.
Honestly knives are very tricky to wield even in experienced hands. Pepper spray with purple dye will blind you're attacker and oh yes it hurts! Now you could say that having a knife could eliminate a threat but that could go either way. Better to blind a man and have both. Unless were talking about a man to man fight but we all know those don't happen anymore.
Two completely different things. You shouldn't use pepper spray in the face of deadly force. You shouldn't use deadly force (a knife) in the face of a non serious/non lethal threat.
The 2 tools might be classified as self-defense equipment, but never confuse lethal tools with condiments.
These exercises remind me of wing chun's sticking hands and rolling bong sau they are good to develop feeling like this would except if you did this blind folded the consequences would be a lot worse haha
I will ad these to my excercises thanks for posting
I feel like the aggressor with a hammer grip wouldn't be standing so straight if attacking. Why have his center mass so close to the enemies attacks.Look at US Airborne vs. An Israeli defense knife fight. They are constantly moving and won't just stand still. Fighting is not as cookie cutter as is made to be in this video.
This is a drill.
LOL look at Russian knife fight school. What you doing is LOL))
Hahahaha! 6:30 Paddy cake paddy cake Kung Fu man....
Let’s see this in real time, then slow motion.
Ok..
u haven't tried street fight yet so don't talk rubbish
Very good. Thanks.
Bad ass. That's some straight up Steven Seagal shit!
Who is this guy?? Has he been in combat and knife fight situations??
Yes.
Assuming you're fast enough to perform a check in the first place, after you "check" why don't you just go for his body rather than focus so much on his arm? And in the time you cut upward and hook, that is time he can use to make a movement with that free arm, step, or something. Or what if he has a second weapon or steps more strongly into you? What if he prefers the blade facing inward and after you check, he pulls back and cuts your arm? Or if after you hook he delivers a nice knee to the groin?
There's too many what-if's against a very singular approach of attack. 1. Check, 2. Cut. 3. Hook. 4. Cut. That's 3 moves in which you are giving your opponent a chance to react back and move; a single step or simultaneous punch to your face would ruin the entire point of the drill. It also assumes your opponent is going to be striking in a smooth, predictable pattern and angle within your own method. Most knife fights anyone is going to get into is against a street thug clown who thinks having a knife gives him an advantage, and all he's going to do is wildly sling and thrust with it against which all technique goes down the toilet.
Facepalm. Your comment assumes this drill is all you need to know. Worse, your comment assumes that Michael Janich, is telling you that this is the one move you need to know. Do you even know who Janich is? Wake up! Turn off the wofo and go to the gym and try other MBC styles if you don't like this. Then report back.
What if one person is left handed and one is right handed have you got a video on it as well
Its not his video but I found it useful. Tho its not reverse grip
ruclips.net/video/6kaEAn5rgXk/видео.html