Wirh all due respect, if four of your friends wrote biographies of you there would be different versions of you to, because we treat people different to what level your relationship is to them.
100% exactly true. This guy is an enigma wrapped in a hypothesis of straining exegesis. With regard to what he said … almost too ludicrous to address but let’s just say… “how” any single of us “relates” to another will dictate THAT persons personal experience and overall relationship.
If 4 friends independently wrote biographies of you when all of them were with you at your most important life moments, you shouldn't expect to see that 3 of these biographies to share the exact same word for word parables about you, while the remaining one just tells a completely different story about what you did and said during your lifetime
Except we know for a fact that Dan is one person, a real person. The character of Jesus is a fictional character that represents an ideology rather than an actual person.
This is simply because of the fact that most Christians don't really know anything about the Bible. They know some things in the Bible, but have zero understanding of the history, the historical context, or the archaeology around the Bible. What Dan is saying here shouldn't be news to anyone that has studied these things
If you presuppose that people are getting things wrong, you must also presuppose that people are getting things right which is much more interesting to hear about.
That's not what he's saying, what he is saying is that each Gospel has a different portrait of who Jesus was and what he did, with Abraham Lincoln, there was one, and with Jesus, there was probably one too. He's not saying that there were 4 different Jesuses going around preaching, he's just stating that each Gospel has a different portrayal of him.
I don't know what kind of New Testament you are reading, but I read the New Testament and all four gospels reports the exact same Jesus. You are the one who is trying to create fake assumptions.
The difference is in their perspectives not in the person. There's only one Jesus. You're an intelligent man Sir. Stop studying the Bible for the purpose of debate and dialogue.I pray that one day you'll come to the knowledge of the one true God. You'll be a tremendous asset to the body of Christ.
Then you’re clearly not listening to what he’s saying, and this is indeed a fact, and has been understood by Old & New Testament scholars alike. The four canonical Gospels that are in the Bible as we have it in the 21st century did NOT exist in the 1st or 2nd century. The Gospels were written decades after the supposed events that happened before, during, and after the life of the historical figure of Jesus, not Jesus “The Christ” as he is portrayed by the Synoptic Gospels. The names “Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John” were given as titles years later after the individual Gospels had been in circulation amongst the earliest churches. The Gospels are anonymous, and are written in the third person, without ever identifying any specific authors. Go study the serious scholarship on this, and stop listening to Christian apologists. 👍🏼
@@φαρμακεία-πρωταρχικόςexcept that’s incorrect, because there are manuscripts that go back into the 1st century. Even atheist scholars have admitted that. Don’t shop for confirmation bias.
@@c2s2942 Clearly you’re not very good at comprehending what I’m stating. I never said we don’t have manuscripts that are earlier than the 1st or 2nd century; my point entirely is that we do not have COMPLETE copies of manuscripts as we have them in the NT today, from the 1st or 2nd century as most Christian’s assume we do. Partial pieces of Manuscripts do not help your case in anyway, irregardless of the date. Nice try though.👍🏼
Oh you mean the one who’s supposed to be created & is lucifer’s brother? Well that’s blasphemy & totally false. JS was into the occult & made up that book of lies.
I like this guy however, his presupposition here is incorrect. There is one Jesus presented throughout the Gospel accounts in different ways. Each has a different goal in showing a different aspect of the man. It is still the same man they are speaking of. If it isn't, there is no Gospel and no New Testament, no Christianity. I have no problem with this because Christianity shouldn't exist. The fact it exists is mainly due to government power plays, misunderstandings of the Old Testament over time and Paul breeding an alternate faith suggested by Jesus but not entirely fleshed out. Whether we can know if Paul would be accepted by Jesus is an unknowable quantity.
If there is only one Jesus, why does John's gospel describe a crucifixion that necessarily happened in a different year to the synoptics (as John's gospel puts Jesus' death before the passover, while the synoptics put it after)?
There are 4 gospels because the Old Testament law requires 2 witnesses. This is why Jesus says to go the extra mile and be more charitable than you think you need to be; because he has given us twice what God required.
I'm not going to mock and belittle you like many have done here. I have never met you and don't know you personally. I have no idea what you were brought up to believe. However, a lie the enemy passes off as truth that then gets repeated for generations is still a lie. Going to share some passages here that show there is only one Messiah-Jesus: Matthew 26:17-20 Now the first day of the feast of unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover? And he said, Go into the city to such a man, and say unto him, The Master saith, My time is at hand; I will keep the passover at thy house with my disciples. And the disciples did as Jesus had appointed them; and they made ready the passover. Now when the even was come, he sat down with the twelve. Matthew is describing his memory of the last Passover/feast of unleavened bread that He will eat with His disciples before he gets betrayed by Judas and denied by Peter three times before the cock crows as described later in the chapter. Mark 14:12-17 And the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the passover, his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the passover? And he sendeth forth two of his disciples, and saith unto them, Go ye into the city, and there shall meet you a man bearing a pitcher of water: follow him. And wheresoever he shall go in, say ye to the goodman of the house, The Master saith, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples? And he will shew you a large upper room furnished and prepared: there make ready for us. And his disciples went forth, and came into the city, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the passover. And in the evening he cometh with the twelve. Now Mark is describing his memory of the same last Passover/Feast of unleavened bread that He will eat with His same twelve disciples before he gets betrayed by Judas and denied by Peter three times before the cock crows as described later in the chapter. Luke 22:7-14 Then came the day of unleavened bread, when the passover must be killed. And he sent Peter and John, saying, Go and prepare us the passover, that we may eat. And they said unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare? And he said unto them, Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you, bearing a pitcher of water; follow him into the house where he entereth in. And ye shall say unto the goodman of the house, The Master saith unto thee, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples? And he shall shew you a large upper room furnished: there make ready. And they went, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the passover. And when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him. Now Luke is describing his memory of the same event: the last Passover/Feast of unleavened bread that He will eat with His same twelve disciples before He gets betrayed by Judas and denied by Peter three times before the cock crows as described later in the chapter. John 13:1-4 Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end. And supper being ended, the devil having now put into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, to betray him; Jesus knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands, and that he was come from God, and went to God; He riseth from supper, and laid aside his garments; and took a towel, and girded himself. This is John's memory of the same event: the last Passover/Feast of unleavened bread that He will eat with His same twelve disciples before He gets betrayed by Judas and denied by Peter three times before the cock crows as described later in the chapter. Do you ever reminisce with friends/family about a specific event? Don't you each remember something about the event that the rest may have not brought up before?
Major problem with your claim: Luke was a follower of Paul (allegedly) and was not at the Last Supper… Mark was not there either, so any memory either one would write about would be the second hand (at best) of someone else. Dr McClellan is a biblical scholar who has studied the Bible and the historical context that it was written in. Each gospel has a different agenda, and at times they contradict each other in effort to prove their point as the one to follow. They were not written with the intention of being collected into a single book, they were each written to stand alone.
@@jackaltwinky77 Isaiah 53:2-12 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth. He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand. He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors. One Jesus. Not 4. period. People who think that because a person has a college degree or are a "bible scholar" they have more understanding of the bible than anyone else need to stop and think about who these college professors are. Not all professors are Christian and some are atheists. As for me, I'd much rather be taught by His Holy Spirit.
There are a lot of "biblical scholars"who have studied extensively that would disagree with him as well. So who's to say who's right?@@jackaltwinky77
This is a really bad clip, missing important context. There is only one Jesus, Son of God, Savior of the World. Our relationship with Him and how He communicates to us may be different, but He is still the same Jesus.
Yes, I’ve been watching his videos and I’ve been having a lot of doubt because a lot of what he says makes sense. It’s really conflicting me and making me doubt. Help!!
@@Mro637 the unexamined faith isn’t worth believing. There are very good reasons to believe in the veracity of scripture and an orthodox interpretation of them. What kind of questions are you having? I’ll see if I can point you to some good resources. But just as a rule of thumb, stay away from Dan. He says things with a level of confidence that can be compelling, but if you boil what he says down, it’s just flat out nonsense. Be careful with him.
@@Mro637Don't ask for help, especially from people with an agenda, like the op. Look into these things for yourself, get into scholarship, and come to your own conclusions. Dan is a good creator for unbiased information as a starting point, but look for more resources yourself. Don't listen to what jesseletkeman642 is saying, Dan presents biblical information without presupposition and just looks at raw text and data, which is absolutely the correct way to approach any academic subject. Also stay away from apologetics, as it's a fundamentally flawed area of study due to it working from a presupposed notion and is generally not taken seriously by actual scholars. Good luck on your journey ❤
I think his honesty and the way he simplifies things is truly refreshing.hes a most welcome iconoclast ...the fact that he has so many people squawking is delightful
If only there were a group of people who compiled all of this and lived it, and understood the culture and history at that time, and then preserved it for 2000 years…
@@canecorsodoxa4060it’s not dumb 😂😂 Bart Ehrman teaches the same thing… because it’s true the Jesus of mark is way different from the other gospels you’re just too stupid to see it
How about this: Joseph's tomb was a well. It wasn't used because he was destroyed for his inheritance...a continuous theme throughout the entire bible. Omniscient God walking around (with his god feet) asking people where their dead family members are. Barabbas wasn't even born yet.....
Our OWN Jesus?? SMH! We will ALL be responsible for the many people we positively and negatively impact. We can’t crest a Jesus that fits our own narrative. Seriously?? May you find your way back to reality and peace.
@@MetanoiaOfferMastery how is the commentary creating their own Jesus? The comment is just saying that we can’t create a Jesus that fits our own narrative. Hes just stating that.
Literally everyone who believes in a Jesus, Christian or not, invents their own version of him. It's inescapable. Matthew's is different from Mark's and they're both different from yours. And you, as a Christian, can know this is true if you've ever disagreed about Scripture with any of your friends.
30k denominations of Christianity back up Dan's claims.. Christianity is the most broken religion of them all. It's because of the Bible. It's so vague and contradictory. It can mean anything to any reader.
That’s a new kind of heresy right there. It’s four accounts of one Christ. How on earth do you not know that you are blaspheming? It’s not like spider man and the amazing spider man, or Michael Keaton Batman, Christian Bale Batman, and BenAffleck Batman.
@@FilthyXylophone man, y’all get testy when somebody’s front’n your high priest of the soy-boys don’t you? Two replies, one mentioning evidence, the other data as if you have something other than uoutube conjecture and/or the last marvel movie you saw. You have no evidence or data, you just have McLellan’s woke dogma. And all he wants to do is pervert the word to fit his soy-boy woke opinion.
@@silverlightsinaugust2756 No He Doesn't I Prove All His Vids Wrong He Doesn't Know The Mysteries I Am A Master Of The Mysteries And His Freemasonic Degrees Are Satanic And Mean Nothing At Best. He Is Lost He Says People Faith Are All Dogmas And Aren't Real We Believe In A Fairytale But Yet He Is A Mormon Y Because They Are A Freemasonic Cult That Believes In Polygamy And Idol Worship.
He's not saying the gospels literally thought there were three different people called Jesus. Consider it from a historical stance, before the Bible, when the gospels were being written each one was written in a different period. (They weren't all written in the same generation). For each generation the focus point of Jesus in each gospel was different. Jesus and what he highlights is a little different in each gospel, yes there's some overlap, but not as much as you'd think. The best way to explain this is follows: If you separated to each gospel and gave one each to an isolate inhabited island that never heard of the Bible or Christianity and gave Mark, Matthew, Luke, John each to a different isolated human population, they cannot contact eachother. After coming back 200 years later you're gonna have 4 very different version of Christianity with 4 different versions of Jesus. Matthew and Luke might have the most in common. But isolated Mark and John would be wildly different. The island given Mark (the earliest written) would likely just think Jesus was a holy person, Matthew would probably think he's a prophet, the one given John would think Jesus is the son of God and has God powers. One island wouldn't even know Jesus was born of a virgin. One would think he was born in a stable and another would think he was born in a house. One would think his last words on the cross were one thing and two anothers would think it's something else. Jesus's last words are 3 different things depending what gospel you read. And this is just narrative stuff, we haven't gotten to the diverging (not saying contradictory) messages of each gospel and what each population would learn and apply out of it. This is what he means by different Jesuses. When isolated, at least 2 of the gospels would become different religions.
How to prove yourself an unworthy-of-trust "scholar" to the whole internet... "The four different gospel authors are presenting four different Jesus's". May you find the truth Dan before it is too late. I will pray for you.
I can guarantee you he knows a lot more about the bible than you, or most people in this comment section for that matter. Don't be passive aggressive. It's a bad look
@mrjdgibbs when you say words like "obvious", please make sure that the overwhelming concensus of scholars, historians, theologians, and ordinary people don't disagree with you. Mark and Matthew present us with the same Jesus, but obviously describe what they saw Him do and teach from different perspectives, as they (Mark and Matthew) are not the same person. Their accounts are not only reinforcing one another, but also confirming one another, when describing the same event
@@VasmarOrthodox Since Matthew copied large parts of Mark verbatim that's largely true that their Jesus' are similar, but I'd be careful about words like confirmation since they're hardly independent. But the point being made is that, as you point out, they will not be the same. They are not univocal.
@@hrv4908 false ur just imposing univocality on the text, Paul saw Jesus as a blinding light and the gospels say he looked like a man. They disagree because there wasn’t one perspective of Jesus at the time, John thought Jesus was god and the other gospels never said that
Christianity is the Burger King of religions. Everyone gets to have it their way. Whoever wrote the Bible had to be a dumb genius. You can see the stupidity of the Bible and the genius of it.. That right there in itself is some kind of miracle. 😂
Not at all. He reads the Bible trying to understand what the people meant back then. It would be projecting if he read the Bible and inserted his own meaning. Besides that, it’s really uncool to psychoanalyze strangers on the internet.
Hahahahha. By “trying to understand”, of course, you mean massaging the text until it correlates with his own presuppositions - the very thing he accuses other people of doing. BTW, he’s the one picking apart strangers on the internet, haven’t you seen his other videos? Your comment is so ironic, lol.
@@yeboscrebo4451 sheesh, dude. If you knew anything about Mormonism, you would know that Dan, a practicing Mormon, is not massaging the text for his own religious agenda. He is actually actively teaching many ideas that go against the doctrine of the Mormon church. He is risking getting kicked out, which would be really bad considering he’s discussed how important it is to him. He takes an academic approach, which strives to be unbiased and is more informed about the consensus of scholarship than most Christians. A scholarship, by the way largely populated by christians. So he’s hardly going against the grain in describing what the consensus of Christian scholars is. He takes people to task for their incorrect readings of the text, but he doesn’t use pop psychology terms like “projecting.” Assuming you know where others are coming from is not acceptable behavior. He is constantly talking about how the best way to understand the text is to figure out what the writer was trying to say within their time and place, which you would likely agree with about most other books. If he has psychoanalyzed people, then I would disagree with that too. But you’re being very rude about him. Not very Christian of you.
@@silverlightsinaugust2756 If you would have read more carefully, you would have noticed that I did not say “massaging the text for his own RELIGIOUS agenda”. I said he’s “massaging the text until it correlates with HIS OWN presuppositions”. Why did you completely misunderstand? Did you do that on purpose or was that a mistake? Very careless of you. I’m very aware of his post-modern bias which is antithetical to the Mormon religion. How are you so sure of his “unbiased” strivings? I’ve never heard of “projection” being described as “pop-psychology”. Is that a feeble attempt to downplay the seriousness of the accusation?
I hope the one and only Jesus guide you on the right path. There is only one Jesus our lord and savior. He is for everyone, no matter who you are, where you're from, and no matter what situation you are in, or have been in. Jesus loves everyone on earth. All he asks is your love and faith in return.
@davidjanbaz7728 what does that even mean? Lol talk to 50 christians..get 50 answers...and don't say the trinity jesus...Dan's already debunked that fake doctrine...non biblical
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Wirh all due respect, if four of your friends wrote biographies of you there would be different versions of you to, because we treat people different to what level your relationship is to them.
100% exactly true. This guy is an enigma wrapped in a hypothesis of straining exegesis. With regard to what he said … almost too ludicrous to address but let’s just say… “how” any single of us “relates” to another will dictate THAT persons personal experience and overall relationship.
But this is more like if one of your friends said you're the son of God and you were born from a virgin but the others make no mention of it.
But these are no eyewitness accounts
If 4 friends independently wrote biographies of you when all of them were with you at your most important life moments, you shouldn't expect to see that 3 of these biographies to share the exact same word for word parables about you, while the remaining one just tells a completely different story about what you did and said during your lifetime
Except we know for a fact that Dan is one person, a real person. The character of Jesus is a fictional character that represents an ideology rather than an actual person.
I like Family Guy Jesus, South Park Jesus, Buddy Jesus, and Brian.
I like Family Guy Jesus because he admits he's fictional.
Jesus won't be fictional when you meet Him.
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Family guy's black jesus is the bomb
Man Dan really triggered a lot of people here 😂😂
Right?!
A difference of opinion is triggered?
This is simply because of the fact that most Christians don't really know anything about the Bible. They know some things in the Bible, but have zero understanding of the history, the historical context, or the archaeology around the Bible. What Dan is saying here shouldn't be news to anyone that has studied these things
Well, a lot of people here have different opinions about you. Does that mean you are not a real person?
At no time in this video does he ever say Jesus was not a real person.
If you presuppose that people are getting things wrong, you must also presuppose that people are getting things right which is much more interesting to hear about.
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How many Abraham Lincolns are there, considering how many different books there are about him? How many Richard Nixon's? How many MLK's?
That's not what he's saying, what he is saying is that each Gospel has a different portrait of who Jesus was and what he did, with Abraham Lincoln, there was one, and with Jesus, there was probably one too. He's not saying that there were 4 different Jesuses going around preaching, he's just stating that each Gospel has a different portrayal of him.
@@adrianvargas1380I think this is an excellent explanation as to what he is saying.
@@adrianvargas1380Whether Jesus was complex enough to warrant that treatment is a different question. I don't believe he was.
@@razorbeard6970 Hilarious
@@elijahjacob4505 Care to be a bit more loquacious about what you find humor in?
Four different views from their own perspective.
Their own perspective? The 3 synoptic gospels used the same source to write their respective accounts. Hardly their own perspective.
I don't know what kind of New Testament you are reading, but I read the New Testament and all four gospels reports the exact same Jesus. You are the one who is trying to create fake assumptions.
AMEN!!
You sure you know how to read?
You don’t get your own Jesus. This man is an unbeliever.
There's only one Jesus!! I don't know what your argument is. If only one person wrote about Jesus, you would have said there's not enough Evidences
The difference is in their perspectives not in the person. There's only one Jesus.
You're an intelligent man Sir. Stop studying the Bible for the purpose of debate and dialogue.I pray that one day you'll come to the knowledge of the one true God. You'll be a tremendous asset to the body of Christ.
Look up the Rashomon Effect.
With four different views of the same person, you can't tell which is the *real* one.
Stop thinking and just believe is not enticement you think it is.
This dude is literally presupposing the gospels are speaking of four different Jesus’s….
But each of them are...
Then you’re clearly not listening to what he’s saying, and this is indeed a fact, and has been understood by Old & New Testament scholars alike.
The four canonical Gospels that are in the Bible as we have it in the 21st century did NOT exist in the 1st or 2nd century. The Gospels were written decades after the supposed events that happened before, during, and after the life of the historical figure of Jesus, not Jesus “The Christ” as he is portrayed by the Synoptic Gospels. The names “Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John” were given as titles years later after the individual Gospels had been in circulation amongst the earliest churches. The Gospels are anonymous, and are written in the third person, without ever identifying any specific authors. Go study the serious scholarship on this, and stop listening to Christian apologists. 👍🏼
@@φαρμακεία-πρωταρχικόςLook into it more💀💀💀
@@φαρμακεία-πρωταρχικόςexcept that’s incorrect, because there are manuscripts that go back into the 1st century. Even atheist scholars have admitted that. Don’t shop for confirmation bias.
@@c2s2942 Clearly you’re not very good at comprehending what I’m stating. I never said we don’t have manuscripts that are earlier than the 1st or 2nd century; my point entirely is that we do not have COMPLETE copies of manuscripts as we have them in the NT today, from the 1st or 2nd century as most Christian’s assume we do. Partial pieces of Manuscripts do not help your case in anyway, irregardless of the date. Nice try though.👍🏼
What about the Jesus presented in the Book of Mormon?
😂😂😂
He's not in the picture to begin with
Oh you mean the one who’s supposed to be created & is lucifer’s brother? Well that’s blasphemy & totally false. JS was into the occult & made up that book of lies.
I like this guy however, his presupposition here is incorrect. There is one Jesus presented throughout the Gospel accounts in different ways. Each has a different goal in showing a different aspect of the man. It is still the same man they are speaking of. If it isn't, there is no Gospel and no New Testament, no Christianity. I have no problem with this because Christianity shouldn't exist. The fact it exists is mainly due to government power plays, misunderstandings of the Old Testament over time and Paul breeding an alternate faith suggested by Jesus but not entirely fleshed out. Whether we can know if Paul would be accepted by Jesus is an unknowable quantity.
If there is only one Jesus, why does John's gospel describe a crucifixion that necessarily happened in a different year to the synoptics (as John's gospel puts Jesus' death before the passover, while the synoptics put it after)?
@@nathanerrington7983 Two Passovers.
“One Jesus presented…in different ways” is exactly what he’s talking about.
@@diogeneslamp8004 Why would he be?
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Different audiences.
What crap! No they are not! Why don’t you start by analyzing the Book of Mormon and it’s contradictions before analyzing the Bible!
I have to agree here, even though I don't like the Bible. The Book of Mormon is just as crazy.
The Bible contradicts itself
There are 4 gospels because the Old Testament law requires 2 witnesses. This is why Jesus says to go the extra mile and be more charitable than you think you need to be; because he has given us twice what God required.
He could’ve just written something about himself though right? I imagine the son of god was literate and able to write his own story….
A-G-E-N-D-A
He has that anti-messiah spirit tbh
@@grey4621who Dan?
@@Mro637 yeah. His mindset is more agnostic, not surprising coming up in LDS.
@@grey4621Whatever drugs you are on you need to kick the habbit my dude
You're already presupposing that the gospels are talking about different Jesus, but you're saying we shouldn't presuppose.
I'm not going to mock and belittle you like many have done here. I have never met you and don't know you personally. I have no idea what you were brought up to believe. However, a lie the enemy passes off as truth that then gets repeated for generations is still a lie.
Going to share some passages here that show there is only one Messiah-Jesus:
Matthew 26:17-20 Now the first day of the feast of unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover?
And he said, Go into the city to such a man, and say unto him, The Master saith, My time is at hand; I will keep the passover at thy house with my disciples.
And the disciples did as Jesus had appointed them; and they made ready the passover.
Now when the even was come, he sat down with the twelve.
Matthew is describing his memory of the last Passover/feast of unleavened bread that He will eat with His disciples before he gets betrayed by Judas and denied by Peter three times before the cock crows as described later in the chapter.
Mark 14:12-17 And the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the passover, his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the passover?
And he sendeth forth two of his disciples, and saith unto them, Go ye into the city, and there shall meet you a man bearing a pitcher of water: follow him.
And wheresoever he shall go in, say ye to the goodman of the house, The Master saith, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?
And he will shew you a large upper room furnished and prepared: there make ready for us.
And his disciples went forth, and came into the city, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the passover.
And in the evening he cometh with the twelve.
Now Mark is describing his memory of the same last Passover/Feast of unleavened bread that He will eat with His same twelve disciples before he gets betrayed by Judas and denied by Peter three times before the cock crows as described later in the chapter.
Luke 22:7-14 Then came the day of unleavened bread, when the passover must be killed.
And he sent Peter and John, saying, Go and prepare us the passover, that we may eat.
And they said unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare?
And he said unto them, Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you, bearing a pitcher of water; follow him into the house where he entereth in.
And ye shall say unto the goodman of the house, The Master saith unto thee, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?
And he shall shew you a large upper room furnished: there make ready.
And they went, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the passover.
And when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him.
Now Luke is describing his memory of the same event: the last Passover/Feast of unleavened bread that He will eat with His same twelve disciples before He gets betrayed by Judas and denied by Peter three times before the cock crows as described later in the chapter.
John 13:1-4 Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.
And supper being ended, the devil having now put into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, to betray him;
Jesus knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands, and that he was come from God, and went to God;
He riseth from supper, and laid aside his garments; and took a towel, and girded himself.
This is John's memory of the same event: the last Passover/Feast of unleavened bread that He will eat with His same twelve disciples before He gets betrayed by Judas and denied by Peter three times before the cock crows as described later in the chapter.
Do you ever reminisce with friends/family about a specific event? Don't you each remember something about the event that the rest may have not brought up before?
Major problem with your claim: Luke was a follower of Paul (allegedly) and was not at the Last Supper…
Mark was not there either, so any memory either one would write about would be the second hand (at best) of someone else.
Dr McClellan is a biblical scholar who has studied the Bible and the historical context that it was written in.
Each gospel has a different agenda, and at times they contradict each other in effort to prove their point as the one to follow.
They were not written with the intention of being collected into a single book, they were each written to stand alone.
@@jackaltwinky77
Isaiah 53:2-12 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
One Jesus. Not 4. period. People who think that because a person has a college degree or are a "bible scholar" they have more understanding of the bible than anyone else need to stop and think about who these college professors are. Not all professors are Christian and some are atheists. As for me, I'd much rather be taught by His Holy Spirit.
There are a lot of "biblical scholars"who have studied extensively that would disagree with him as well. So who's to say who's right?@@jackaltwinky77
So you’ve quoted the Bible a lot. So what? What justification do we have for trusting the Bible?
Think he reads spiderman too much
Jesus Christ looks like me.
esauuuuu ma boy i can’t tell if i want u picking my tobacco or my rice lol. we’ll wait and see
You’re full of it!!
This is a really bad clip, missing important context. There is only one Jesus, Son of God, Savior of the World.
Our relationship with Him and how He communicates to us may be different, but He is still the same Jesus.
Can you give us an example of the 4 different jesus'? Mainstream Christians will disagree
He means, that the four authors of the Gospels present Jesus in four different ways, not that there were actually 4 different people named Jesus.
@@KimSiever how are they different though was the question
Compare the Gospels. You can see that their authors present Jesus differently.
@Kim Siever nah...there might be slightly different things the apostles say about jesus....but no doctrinal difference (about jesus)
I didn’t say anything about doctrinal differences.
Its called individuals perception of the same events. Satan in the flesh.
Exactly. Same events, different perspectives.
same events with tons of contradictions
fundamentalism is a joke
@@cloakedsquid same events with more or less detail, different perspectives.
Satan isn't even an individual entity in the old testament
No, Dan. There is a lot that YOU get wrong about Jesus. This being a prime example.
Yes, I’ve been watching his videos and I’ve been having a lot of doubt because a lot of what he says makes sense. It’s really
conflicting me and making me doubt. Help!!
@@Mro637 the unexamined faith isn’t worth believing. There are very good reasons to believe in the veracity of scripture and an orthodox interpretation of them. What kind of questions are you having? I’ll see if I can point you to some good resources. But just as a rule of thumb, stay away from Dan. He says things with a level of confidence that can be compelling, but if you boil what he says down, it’s just flat out nonsense. Be careful with him.
@@Mro637Don't ask for help, especially from people with an agenda, like the op. Look into these things for yourself, get into scholarship, and come to your own conclusions. Dan is a good creator for unbiased information as a starting point, but look for more resources yourself. Don't listen to what jesseletkeman642 is saying, Dan presents biblical information without presupposition and just looks at raw text and data, which is absolutely the correct way to approach any academic subject. Also stay away from apologetics, as it's a fundamentally flawed area of study due to it working from a presupposed notion and is generally not taken seriously by actual scholars. Good luck on your journey ❤
I think his honesty and the way he simplifies things is truly refreshing.hes a most welcome iconoclast ...the fact that he has so many people squawking is delightful
@jesseletkeman642 Don't test your "faith". Stay away from convincing arguments. Stay narrow minded. Great advice.
If only there were a group of people who compiled all of this and lived it, and understood the culture and history at that time, and then preserved it for 2000 years…
It's a shame we don't have that
Yeah ;)
That's the thing. We don't. And then the interpretations, beliefs, and culture has changed over the years.
@@DaveCM Yes we do. What do you think Christianity is? All of this has been preserved by the Orthodox Church.
@@bradleyperry1735the Roman catholics would like a word.
He should get a refund for the time and money wasted studying theology.
Why?
@@20quid literally teaching woke ideology from the scriptures has to be the dumbest exegesis of all time.
@@canecorsodoxa4060absolutely I am tired of mindset he is phyco I am not joking bro
@@Aghwgs 😳😳😳😳
@@canecorsodoxa4060it’s not dumb 😂😂 Bart Ehrman teaches the same thing… because it’s true the Jesus of mark is way different from the other gospels you’re just too stupid to see it
How about this: Joseph's tomb was a well. It wasn't used because he was destroyed for his inheritance...a continuous theme throughout the entire bible. Omniscient God walking around (with his god feet) asking people where their dead family members are. Barabbas wasn't even born yet.....
Source? We’ll all wait.
Our OWN Jesus?? SMH! We will ALL be responsible for the many people we positively and negatively impact. We can’t crest a Jesus that fits our own narrative. Seriously?? May you find your way back to reality and peace.
And yet so many people do create a Jesus that fits their own narrative.
That’s exactly what you do.
@@MetanoiaOfferMastery how is the commentary creating their own Jesus? The comment is just saying that we can’t create a Jesus that fits our own narrative. Hes just stating that.
Literally everyone who believes in a Jesus, Christian or not, invents their own version of him. It's inescapable. Matthew's is different from Mark's and they're both different from yours.
And you, as a Christian, can know this is true if you've ever disagreed about Scripture with any of your friends.
30k denominations of Christianity back up Dan's claims.. Christianity is the most broken religion of them all. It's because of the Bible. It's so vague and contradictory. It can mean anything to any reader.
That’s a new kind of heresy right there.
It’s four accounts of one Christ. How on earth do you not know that you are blaspheming?
It’s not like spider man and the amazing spider man, or Michael Keaton Batman, Christian Bale Batman, and BenAffleck Batman.
Is it heresy if it's the position that is supported by the evidence?
@@20quid oh, we’re talking about “evidence” now like it’s a court case, and that you or the heretic would know how to examine it.
Your decree of blasphemy is driven by dogma. Dan's position is supported by data. I'll take data over dogma any day.
@@FilthyXylophone man, y’all get testy when somebody’s front’n your high priest of the soy-boys don’t you?
Two replies, one mentioning evidence, the other data as if you have something other than uoutube conjecture and/or the last marvel movie you saw.
You have no evidence or data, you just have McLellan’s woke dogma. And all he wants to do is pervert the word to fit his soy-boy woke opinion.
@@20quidexcept he never actually shows evidence and somehow 2000 years of biblical scholarship shows different results. Weird.
This just seems like a Bart Ehrman copy pasta
Except far worse in my opinion. Bart actually has more to contribute to a conversation in most cases.
It's almost like it's the academic consensus and they're both academics.
@20quid 2 people are not an academic consensus.
UR shirt reflects your comic understanding of the Bible.
This dude is a Christian scholar with four degrees. He knows more about the Bible than pretty much anybody I know.
Ur dum
@@silverlightsinaugust2756 No He Doesn't I Prove All His Vids Wrong He Doesn't Know The Mysteries I Am A Master Of The Mysteries And His Freemasonic Degrees Are Satanic And Mean Nothing At Best. He Is Lost He Says People Faith Are All Dogmas And Aren't Real We Believe In A Fairytale But Yet He Is A Mormon Y Because They Are A Freemasonic Cult That Believes In Polygamy And Idol Worship.
He's not saying the gospels literally thought there were three different people called Jesus.
Consider it from a historical stance, before the Bible, when the gospels were being written each one was written in a different period. (They weren't all written in the same generation). For each generation the focus point of Jesus in each gospel was different. Jesus and what he highlights is a little different in each gospel, yes there's some overlap, but not as much as you'd think.
The best way to explain this is follows:
If you separated to each gospel and gave one each to an isolate inhabited island that never heard of the Bible or Christianity and gave Mark, Matthew, Luke, John each to a different isolated human population, they cannot contact eachother.
After coming back 200 years later you're gonna have 4 very different version of Christianity with 4 different versions of Jesus. Matthew and Luke might have the most in common. But isolated Mark and John would be wildly different.
The island given Mark (the earliest written) would likely just think Jesus was a holy person, Matthew would probably think he's a prophet, the one given John would think Jesus is the son of God and has God powers.
One island wouldn't even know Jesus was born of a virgin. One would think he was born in a stable and another would think he was born in a house.
One would think his last words on the cross were one thing and two anothers would think it's something else.
Jesus's last words are 3 different things depending what gospel you read.
And this is just narrative stuff, we haven't gotten to the diverging (not saying contradictory) messages of each gospel and what each population would learn and apply out of it.
This is what he means by different Jesuses.
When isolated, at least 2 of the gospels would become different religions.
@@FrogknightAk47 you didn't answer
So much bullshit.
How to prove yourself an unworthy-of-trust "scholar" to the whole internet... "The four different gospel authors are presenting four different Jesus's". May you find the truth Dan before it is too late. I will pray for you.
I can guarantee you he knows a lot more about the bible than you, or most people in this comment section for that matter. Don't be passive aggressive. It's a bad look
@@brettjohnson536 I can tell how well you know the bible, especially by how humble you seem to be and most people in the comments
They do. Mark's Jesus is different from Matthew's from yours. It's obvious. Why is this hard?
@mrjdgibbs when you say words like "obvious", please make sure that the overwhelming concensus of scholars, historians, theologians, and ordinary people don't disagree with you. Mark and Matthew present us with the same Jesus, but obviously describe what they saw Him do and teach from different perspectives, as they (Mark and Matthew) are not the same person. Their accounts are not only reinforcing one another, but also confirming one another, when describing the same event
@@VasmarOrthodox Since Matthew copied large parts of Mark verbatim that's largely true that their Jesus' are similar, but I'd be careful about words like confirmation since they're hardly independent.
But the point being made is that, as you point out, they will not be the same. They are not univocal.
One Jesus. The authors simply show His actions from their perspective. This guy is an embarrassment to the LDS community -- and other Christians.
Except that’s not even true, read the gospels
@@SatanFollower1 One Jesus.
@@hrv4908 there’s like 5, the four gospels and Paul’s Jesus 😂
@@SatanFollower1 Five perspectives of one Jesus.
@@hrv4908 false ur just imposing univocality on the text, Paul saw Jesus as a blinding light and the gospels say he looked like a man. They disagree because there wasn’t one perspective of Jesus at the time, John thought Jesus was god and the other gospels never said that
Jesus is for everyone....
Christianity is the Burger King of religions. Everyone gets to have it their way. Whoever wrote the Bible had to be a dumb genius. You can see the stupidity of the Bible and the genius of it.. That right there in itself is some kind of miracle. 😂
😂😅😂😅😂😅
This guy is the false prophet bible warn us..
And you’re the clown Barnum warned us about.
i mean it’s a million false prophets out here
Only one Jesus. You are trying to make God in your image to fit your taste and telling others to do the same.
Is everything this guy says a projection?
90%
Not at all. He reads the Bible trying to understand what the people meant back then. It would be projecting if he read the Bible and inserted his own meaning. Besides that, it’s really uncool to psychoanalyze strangers on the internet.
Hahahahha. By “trying to understand”, of course, you mean massaging the text until it correlates with his own presuppositions - the very thing he accuses other people of doing. BTW, he’s the one picking apart strangers on the internet, haven’t you seen his other videos? Your comment is so ironic, lol.
@@yeboscrebo4451 sheesh, dude. If you knew anything about Mormonism, you would know that Dan, a practicing Mormon, is not massaging the text for his own religious agenda. He is actually actively teaching many ideas that go against the doctrine of the Mormon church. He is risking getting kicked out, which would be really bad considering he’s discussed how important it is to him.
He takes an academic approach, which strives to be unbiased and is more informed about the consensus of scholarship than most Christians. A scholarship, by the way largely populated by christians. So he’s hardly going against the grain in describing what the consensus of Christian scholars is. He takes people to task for their incorrect readings of the text, but he doesn’t use pop psychology terms like “projecting.” Assuming you know where others are coming from is not acceptable behavior. He is constantly talking about how the best way to understand the text is to figure out what the writer was trying to say within their time and place, which you would likely agree with about most other books. If he has psychoanalyzed people, then I would disagree with that too. But you’re being very rude about him. Not very Christian of you.
@@silverlightsinaugust2756 If you would have read more carefully, you would have noticed that I did not say “massaging the text for his own RELIGIOUS agenda”. I said he’s “massaging the text until it correlates with HIS OWN presuppositions”. Why did you completely misunderstand? Did you do that on purpose or was that a mistake? Very careless of you. I’m very aware of his post-modern bias which is antithetical to the Mormon religion. How are you so sure of his “unbiased” strivings? I’ve never heard of “projection” being described as “pop-psychology”. Is that a feeble attempt to downplay the seriousness of the accusation?
Jesus's instructions, the way. You got alot wrong .
This is horrible theology. Very much eisegetical conclusions.
I hope the one and only Jesus guide you on the right path. There is only one Jesus our lord and savior. He is for everyone, no matter who you are, where you're from, and no matter what situation you are in, or have been in. Jesus loves everyone on earth. All he asks is your love and faith in return.
Which Jesus is the right one?
Bible doesn't say this, where did you get these frames from? How is he a saviour, who doesn't even know him? 🤣
@@wellsjdan the Historical Jesus!
@davidjanbaz7728 what does that even mean? Lol talk to 50 christians..get 50 answers...and don't say the trinity jesus...Dan's already debunked that fake doctrine...non biblical
Give evidence for Jesus please.
False