Johnny Depp: "what's going on with the beard?" Al Pacino: "I don't want people to know I'm in an Adam Sandler movie" Buuuut.... DEPP WAS OKAY WITH IT?!?!?!?
I like how people are down voting because of the controversy, but to people completely out of the loop; it just makes it look like a bunch of people are upset he badmouthed Jack and Jill.
The comments of this video was where I first learned about the controversy, and my initial thought when seeing the like to dislike ratio was that Doug was going to say he kind of liked the film.
You have to realize that a lot of people were already tired of the character and his vids havent been as funny in a long time to many. The fact that he is an uncaring prick in real life doesnt help though.
I find amusing that this movie is often considered as the worst one ever made while The Godfather is considered as the best one. Al Pacino was in both...
I can't actually find what the controversy was about because of all the comments talking about how everyone is commenting about the controversy. *Ironic*
Basically from what I remember the controversy is that the head of Channel Awesome was being an unfair jackass to everyone there and people jumped to the conclusion that man was Doug.
To be fair, Doug and Rob did some horrible stuff too. A RUclipsr called Cinematic Venom made a documentary on it, covering everything from the span of a year since the controversy
MLBlue30 I thought it was funny. Call me a blindly devoted fan if you will but I still find entertainment in these reviews, I have for almost ten years now
Pacino is so cool. He became one of greatest actors of all time but now he stars in ridiculous movies. Tbh I feel like if we had given him more Academy Awards we wouldn't have this problem...
For anybody who is confused about the controversy, I will try to explain it to the best of my ability without being biased. I will try to simply go by facts. Recently, a large amount of Channel Awesome employees left the Channel, and put up a Google Doc listing several ways they were mistreated, including abuse of employees (particularly females), blatant favoritism, really bad work environments, and being fired for ridiculously petty reasons (seriously, who fires someone for taking time off to have a surgery?). They also talked about how filming the anniversary specials was a nightmare, thanks to rushed schedules, poor communication, a large amount of injuries, and Doug and Rob being rather bad at handling big projects like those (they seemed to both overestimate themselves and everybody else). The majority of these problems (not including the anniversary specials) can mostly traced to Mike Michaud, the owner of the Nostalgia Critic (Doug gave him the rights because Doug just wanted to focus on making videos) and Channel Awesome, who at some point decided to practice being a mustache-twirling evil overlord. Doug and Rob are getting a huge chunk of the blame since: A. They’re the cocreatorrs and faces of the website. B. Obscurus Lupa (a former employe) recently posted a tweet about how Doug essentially stood by and did nothing while Michaud abused his authority (like firing her for not immediately responding to a Skype). C. A certain quiz show money-handling fiasco (Doug ended up with more than planned, and a lot of it didn’t go to what it was supposed to). D. I refer you back to the anniversary specials. So basically, everybody’s mad at Doug and Rob for just looking the other way when Michaud treated everyone else like shit while they were essentially treated like kings. The Walker Brothers are also getting a lot of hate for trying the *if I ignore it, it’ll go away* strategy regarding all this instead of talking about it. I have my own theory regarding the Walker’s reasons for doing this, *but* I said I was going to keep this unbiased. If you want my opinion, check my response.
So, if you want my opinion on why the Walkers aren’t talking about all this, it’s because they *can’t.* I’ve seen their Sibling Rivalries and Vlogs and, for the most part, they seem like pretty nice guys. Hell, Doug once even apologized to Noah Antwiler (Spoony) for accidentally stealing one of his ideas (Doug just happened to think of the exact same thing)! So, while I don’t deny they probably did nothing to stop it, I don’t think it was willingly and/or they were OK with it. I think it’s because by that point, Michaud had gained so much power that now the Walkers are near-powerless figure heads *at best,* or just glorified regular employees *at worst.* Michaud essentially constantly has a gun pointed at their job (Mahuad *really* owns the Nostalgia Critic), so he’s probably forcing them to keep quiet. I love Doug and the Nostalgia Critic, and I’ll continue to watch his videos, but I won’t deny I’m a bit disappointed by all this.
Welp, the bubble was bound to burst eventually. In a strange way, I'm glad this issue is finally seeing the light of day. On one hand, change for the company is anticipated, for better or worse, which I'm looking forward to. On the other, I really despise to see such talent go to waste by the mishandlings of a puppeteer. He is no Gepetto, no Jeff Dunham, but simply a greedy overlord who is confined to see a 1-dimensional view of "awesome". This channel should emulate at least 3 dimensions of awesome, be it creativity, well-rounded communication, and overall fluid cameraderie. hell, it needs to be more than 3 dimensions. I still wish to stick by this channel, if only because I have hope in what's right, and that what's right, will be done. After all, the show, the review, must go on.
Thanks! I scrolled for something like ten minutes to get a clue what the toxic comments are about! I like the nostalgia critic and it's sad to hear what's behind the scenes. If this document is true, it needs to be dealt with, especially Mike. I hope, it won't affect other people's jobs like Dougs, since I love his content, but when all of his fans swing the hammer like this, it probably could. People need to calm down, think of something rationally and I would support it. Not this shitstorm in the comments.
Thanks for posting this. Wish it was posted at the top so every one would see it first thing. Controversy is depressing and reading the comments it feels like a lot of people are jumping the gun and making assumptions left and right.
My wife and I went on opening night to see this movie. She actually thought it was really funny. It was the first time in my life that I thought I married the wrong woman.
@@ninjabluefyre3815 Idk they had chemistry and were weirdly cute together. I guess it's because they leaned into the campiness of Hairspray and had fun with it.
I never ever EVER read RUclips comments, but it was worth scrolling down to read this one. Thank you for making my 1 and only trip to the comments section worthwhile.
That would have actually been a good way to address the problem. Sadly Doug and everyone else probably wouldn't be able to do that with the way things have been lately
I've tried to not address this in the comments but it's such a big problem I just can't let it pass... 12:40 Those aren't Jalapeños, those are actually Chile de Árbol, or tree chili...
Yep. Its especially true now since only two producers are left on the site: Brad Jones and Guru Larry (who's only sticking around to troll on twitter).
I'm betting Doug is under contracted obligation to keep doing these reviews and isn't allowed to talk about the controversy. **Edit** There is an official response on the Channel Awesome website. It's likely not from Doug and it doesn't cover every issue, but it's way better than just saying nothing forever. Still, it would be nice to get Doug's thoughts as he pretty much is the face of Channel Awesome.
Oukawa王川Kenshin謙信 Normally I think that would be the case but judging from the document Michaud is very sensitive about their image so even saying he can't talk about it makes them look bad.
Fun fact : 11:35, that a cameo from a french comedian, Gad Elmaleh. He got a carrier of comic stand up and movies in france, and even got a part in a Spielberg (Tintin where he played the owner of the third unicorn). And right now, he is in a scandal of stealing joke from little comedian... and everybody hate him for a really bad commercial he did for a Bank company where he just do a stand-up and says "I dream of a bank that engaged himself, that help me" and the public laugh... Yep... I supposed we can say he's the french Adam Sandler, complete with having a character in drags and beeing tolerate to play a populare cartoon characters (he's the french voice of Gru in despicable me)
Remember when Pewdiepie, Fine Bros and Screen Junkies had their own controversy? What do they do? They took a long break because people were still talking about their controversy. And later, they made an apology video or apologize on social media. But, seems like Doug doesn't give a shit. Even Logan Paul made his own apology video.
Damn... This must be when all the "Change the Channel," shit first hit. I can't imagine he got this many downvotes because so many people love Jack and Jill and are mad he's raging on it...
I honestly don't care or want to care about all that drama. As entertainment goes this is still one of my favourite shows, and i'm gonna stick by it as long as it's still good.
Looking back it funny that people who claim to be victim and people who support them try every thing to ruin channel -Fake news about Doug leave -Criticize CA when he do charity, tell every one he just do it save face, but ignore the fact that CA do this many years before -Rant show that NC review not Nostalgia enough Yes channel suffer, but just a bit they start to recover now
Eugenio Dervez is actually a really beloved and funny comedian and improvises really good in Mexico but in this movie as Felipe is one of his worst acts, he even recognized that and made fun of in a sketch he made
beloved? He was funny in the 90s, had a hit-and-miss in the early 2000s and was basically running on fumes by the time he made "La Familia P.Luche"... His comedy's been dead for years as his last cinematic bombs show, along with the feud he held for a couple of years with Televisa's directives, and working with Happy Madison is not really an upgrade.
Derbez es muy querido aquí en México... Pero si tenemos en cuenta lo malísima que es esta película en sí misma, y aparte el humor que Derbez solía incluir en sus show sin ningún contexto... El resultado es un desastre...
I really hope Mike gets what is coming to him. I honestly feel bad for Doug, being unable to give an actual apology due to what Mike would do. Hopefully Doug manages to leave, and that CA will go down shortly afterwards.
DJ Prime i wish that could happen. But considering how tough it will be to get the rights back (seriously, Dumb move on Doug's part. Who gives away THEIR OWN CHARACTER?!) I don't assume people would just return to Channel Awesome since bonds and trusts have been broken, but it would be a start!
Ladondorf It's amazing that there are a bunch of idiots around here who haven't figured out why Doug can't speak out yet and it really just feels like the videos are cash ins now.
I'm still curious about the outcome of the fiasco. Malcom did say a video was coming soon addressing the situation. I still do care about the whole thing, as it was something that had been festering for years. I just wanna hear it from Doug and Rob's POV. Their response to the allegations in question is still important; not to us, but the ones who wrote their part in the document. Granted, the majority of allegations were against Michael, but Doug and Rob were major players in the channel's success and how it was run. In essence, they were, and still are, "managers" of some variety.
I know you're not going to address the controvercy Doug. From everything I've heard, I know that Mike probably won't let you say anything, especially since he owns the Nostalgia Critic character. Your livlihood is on the line, and despite the crap going on I feel like you're kinda stuck. I just sincerely hope that Mike gets what's coming to him and that you can go on to create and be more.
Just a reminder that other content creators left and made money elsewhere. Doug has nothing to lose and everything to gain by supporting the other content creators.
Mike Michaud owns Nostalgia Critic. The next couple videos from Doug will probably have less effort put into them as they all try to work this out. It would be great if Mike Michaud released the rights to Nostalgia Critic but I doubt that’s going to happen. You guys can still enjoy Nostalgia Critic but be against Mike Michaud though.
That's exactly what I'm doing. I will continue to remain a fan and supporter of Doug Walker and the NC but I will hate and stand against Mike Michaud. The more I look into it, the more it looks like all this started from him and the more he looks like Amy and Samy from Amy's Baking Company and Matt and Karen from O Face Bar. I understand that bars/restaurants are different from internet shows but they're both businesses that need to be handled and managed carefully and that's something those people all failed to do.
"You guys can still enjoy Nostalgia Critic but be against Mike Michaud though." *THIS.* I unsubscribed from this channel out of protest against Mike Michaud. Not because I no longer appreciate Doug's work. If they get rid of Mike Michaud (which is extremely unlikely unless Doug can somehow get the rights to the NC back from him), I will gladly resubscribe.
i was thinking the same thing. did you notice that this video has no adds no charity shout out and is 2 days late? shits hitting the fan over at channel awesome right now
Bonehead Trevor So? Other people had criticized Ed Wood films long before, but MST3000 still took their turn to roast them. We are the Mad Scientists, and Walker is our tormented Astronaut.
I guarantee all the downvotes have nothing to do with his performance or critique. This same video 6 months ago wouldn’t have had 300. Which I find almost an abuse of the system, almost. I generally hate it when people downvote for reasons that have nothing to do with a video’s specific merit, but I suppose if Doug is being that stubborn, then perhaps there may be no other way to get his attention. If he DOES apologize, I would expect everyone to return to this video and express their acceptance of his apology by either up voting or at least un-Voting.
Personally I'm not a fan but can't you just leave him alone? adam sandler always made films for his fans. He never claimed he makes films for the world. He also doesn't care for awards. And to anyone who likes this film, more power to you.
Ben Martin I don't understand that. Does Mike own the name and likeness, because if so couldn't Doug just change his outfit, his clothes and then be done with Mike? It's not like someone can own the rights to angrily talk about bad movies, and if he is afraid no one would follow him if he changes names, the AVGN use to be called the Angry Nintendo Nerd and no one stopped watching him because of that.
kerrr rr it won’t be that easy, his boss owns the rights to nostalgia critic which means that if he went with making critical nostalgia he has the power to at best strike these videos down and at worst can sue for copyright infringment. so if he spoke out and lost his job he woulden’t even be able to get himself the ability to make these videos. (i will admit i don’t know if that is how it works but i think this could happen)
God, I hate this movie. This was not only a bad movie, this was the worst movie I have ever seen. Bar none. Seriously, this movie makes me so uncomfortable that it makes me feel sorry that I was ever an asshole to my younger siblings.
I couldn't agree more. This was worse than DragonBall: Evolution, Shyamalan's Last Airbender, Highlander: The Source, Transformers 4 AND 5, and Mortal Kombat: Annihilation COMBINED. And those were ALL on my Top 10 Worst Movies Ever list..... YES. Jack and Jill is somehow WORSE than everything I just listed.
@@mitchellneu Admittedly, I liked Transformers 4, despite its glaring flaws. I will agree that TF 5 wasn't very good, though. And yeah, Dragonball: Evolution and The Last Airbender is also on my personal shitlist. Never seen Highlander: The Source. Wasn't a fan of the original MK movie, so Annihilation didn't even catch my radar.
Matthew Cool Highlander: The Source is the fifth(and final)movie in the Highlander series....and the WORST ONE. MK: Annihilation was just...awful. Until Jack and Jill, that was my all time worst movie ever. Makes the original MK movie look Oscar worthy....check it out if you’re brave enough to deal with cringe-worthy dialogue, meh fight sequences, awful visuals....you get the idea.
Winds of March Journey/Perry tribute band is that the one on Che Guevara before he became a Castro supporter/icon for rebellion and anarchy? I had to watch that in high school AND college and both times I wanted to blow my brains out.
Napalm Blaziken pretty much how the general public works. One minute we're glued to the controversy and ready to up and arms, the next we'll get bored and move on to the next. It's like watching a trainwreck that you can't unsee.
I do feel so bad for Tamara and Malcolm....no one should attack THEM. They're caught in the crossfire and it sucks. Hell even Doug is stuck in a rock and hard place.
I feel bad for them too but they really need to step up and make the right choice and address the huge elephant in the room before things get any more worse than it already has.
mjangelvortex they have enough views on their own to where they can split from CA and they should for their own sake. I really feel bad for Doug cause he's straight effed. Mike owns the NC character
Some old employes releashe a document about how channel awesome mistreed them. That star the controversy. Then channel awesome apologize in twitter but no one was satisfied with that. And we end up with this shitshow
I know doug doesn't own this anymore, but you always say "come on!" And point out faults in things.... I have yet to see SOME (you know who you are) be so open and introspective publicly. So now it is our turn...COME ON, REALLY?!
The thing is, on the list of people that deserve blame, Doug's pretty low on the list. He's not innocent, but a recurring theme I'm seeing is that most of the problems were caused by Mike. I think Doug can recover from this, but not as long as he stays with Channel Awesome. But that kinda puts him in a rough spot because He doesn't own the rights to his own character.
I remember the Robot Chicken sketch about Jack and Jill where it's revealed that Jill is actually Jack, but only a separate personality, and then it suddenly turns from a comedy into a psychological horror. Honestly, that would've made for a better movie. Also, at the end, it should've been like this: "Jack and Jill is Jack and Sh*t, and Jack left town."
That sounds implausible, like something they'd do in a parody, but not the actual movie, but if you think about it, Click kinda did that... I can see them writing that movie like "Oh yeah, then he uses the pause button, and then the fast forward button, but at the end he confronts the woman he loves and learns his lession." So they're ready to produce the movie, but that night at the bar some guys from the meeting are making fun of the movie half drunk like "Oh yeah these movies are all the same dumb shit!" "I know right!" "Ahah! Imagine this, what if we actually make a serious movie for once, wouldn't it be hilarious? Like after using the remote and all the shenanigans, Sandler accidentally skips years ahead and misses his children growing, and misses his dad dying and all of a sudden the movie becomes super dramatic!" "Ahaha!" Then the next morning one of them is like "You know what..."
Say whatever you want about Adam Sandler but at least he paid his actors and at least had drinking water on set. You should quote one of your songs dedicated to Sandler: "What the hell happened to me?".
I mean. Not a lot of people really know, nor do they particularly care. There are allegations, and that's it. You're assuming guilt based on someones statements, most of which are contradicted by the response (Which provided physical evidence to substantiate their claims). And honestly. Do you actually care?
joseph stalin The main face should exactly be the one talking bout these issues. You think wouldnt get mad if Zuckerberg wasnt the one answering the Senate right now and just some random Facebook employees? Doug represents channel awesome whether he likes it or not and some allegations are thrown his way too. If youre accused of something wouldnt you defend yourself?
I don't know why but Jill punching that guy that fixed jack's Jill costume made me feel bad. I mean he was just trying to help and wasn't trying to grope her, so it makes me kinda sad.
Well actually I would've said from '' Channel Not So Awesome document'' to 10, how bad was the movie, unless you consider the movie to be worse than his responce
At first, I though the opening was a joke about Doug hiding from the Channel Awesome controversy. Actually, I still think that Doug did that on purpose.
Celebrities playing themselves in this: Al Pacino, Johnny Depp, Jared Fogle, John McEnroe, Drew Carey, Regis Philbin, Christie Brinkley, Billy Blanks, Michael Irvin, Bill Romanowski, and the person formerly known as Bruce Jenner.
ATAG Chozo Same. I still got a lot of respect for them but an apology or an announcement is in order. Silence or ignoring it makes me think there is some validity to the claims.
GUYS: Remember that the Nostalgia Critic is OWNED BY MIKE MAUCHAD. If Doug tries to say anything about what's happening publicly he'll get fired and he can't be the NC anymore. It's stupid but it's true.
Part of me wants to say, "Doug, is it really worth holding on to the Critic if it means getting dragged down with Michaud?" But on the other hand I don't know all of the logistics, so I don't know if it's that easy.
Lauren Frost Have some empathy man... This is Doug's Career and passion, its not easy for ANY normal person to just leave all those years of work behind in an instant. And remember CA owns nostalgia critic its not like he can leave and keep doing it, it isnt his creative property.
Doug please leave the sinking ship that is Channel Awesome. Besides you only Brad Jones, witch is Cinema Snob, and Guru Larry are left. Threaten to leave, then buy the rights to Nostalgia Critic from Mike and be down with him. Then continue your Nostalgia Critic life on RUclips.
The issue is the bad reputation Mike has earned for Channel Awesome and that he owns the Nostalgia Critic character. If Doug leaves or buys the rights to Nostalgia Critic he can distance himself from Mike.
I'm just sad because I really do enjoy the nostalgia critic episodes even some of the new ones, its just fun stuff to listen to, but its hard to enjoy with all the controversy I'm really just sad this all had to happen. I mostly blame mike for just being a bad CEO but you know just about everyone involved had a part in doing the website bad. I'm for sure Doug shrugged off things all the time. I know very little about anything behind the scenes as I believe most others do as well but I'm just disappointed this is the positions these entertainers I like are in.
Toxic Turtle One of the best anime ever, Rurouni Kenshin, turns out to have been written by a man who purchased child pornography. I know how you feel, but we should hate the jerk and still appreciate the work.
A part of me really wishes we had a better idea of just how much of the problems with the channel were directly doug's fault or doing. Doug is the face of the channel and likely did play a part, but we don't know how much it is. We don't know if doug is as bad as some of these other criminals, or if doug was less guilty than most or had less control than we thought. He'll ultimately still suffer the damage and considering how much I've enjoyed their content, it still hurts to think about. I still enjoy Doug and Rob's work, and I specially love how much Tamara and Malcolm do for it.. and i hate to think of what they may all suffer due to actions committed by the former, or the troubles that surround them now. I just really wish we knew more. But at the same time, knowing more would probably be more harmful than we think.
sebastian guerrero you're an idiot if you still believe that after everything that has come out. You realize that they in effect validated most of the grievances put forward through their "response" don't you? At this point anyone still supporting CA based on the false belief that the google doc is all lies is being willfully ignorant. Enjoy your burning house.
They're great people who have nothing to do with the growing controversy. Therefore, for their own professional reputation, they should stay out of this. Hopefully the site burns down before this supposed "Addressing the concerns" video goes live so they can have a chance at further acting work after this.
After both Tamara and Malcolm pretty much defended this whole thing on twitter and said the claims were full of shit (funny because Malcolm or Tamara were never there when this stuff happened, but they KNOW these are all lies!), they deserve every bit as much hate as the Walkers and Michaud are getting. As far as I'm concerned, it's fair game now.
Man, I was convinced the comments were going to be deactivated when this video came up. Maybe Michaud is so incompetent he doesn't even know that's an option.
He's going to keep the comments up cause people are coming here to complain. He probably figures fuck it, let them come and give him ad revenue. Of course, I enabled ad block for this channel since I heard everything. Fuck these guys.
Ni N Mikeys just giving everybody what they wanted; to bash more hate on the comment section. Like controversy gives celebraties even more publicity, adding fuel to the flames
Has Doug struck out on his own? I really hope so, he can keep doing reviews even if he's not allowed to be the Nostalgia Critic anymore, I'd still watch them.
@XSeatoriaX *late comment* it all started with "not so awesome", a document written by a group of ex-members of channel awesome. It talks about the walkers, and how they and Mike michaud had mistreated them. They complained about poor payments and disagreements, along with sexism, strict rules and even conflicts.
11:59 Okay, so here's the deal. I've seen quite a bit of Latino-stereotype jokes and for the most part, I find them to be funny (as long as they're in good fun). Favorite examples would be "Do The Right Thing" (11 to a car, 30 to an apartment
He can't, the CEO of Channel Awesome owns the rights to nostalgia critic which would mean leaving the company would force him to stop doing Nostalgia Critic
the problem is he's built up this show for 10 years its human nature to want to keep at what you do it's why so many captains go down with the ship's they know no other life and are afraid to change it
My bet His boss won't let him talk about whats going on beacuse of a contract or threats maybe to his show I mean his boss owns Nostalgia critic as a whole character
Cemser it looks like he’s chosen his career. The reason why he doesn’t leave is if he does he loses all of his hard work and has to start over, still carrying the tarnished reputation of Channel Awesome but no longer having the SEO or even general brand recognition and preexisting revenue stream staying here provides.
Cemser yeah, tells someone struggling to pay their bills that at least they have a good reputation. I love how people tell him what he should do even though they won’t have to deal with the consequences.
@@Kaefer1973 it lasted longer than it would in 2019 though. If the controvercy happened this year hashtags would have gone up on Twitter commentary videos would be made. And everything would have lasted about a weekend before everyone forgot because Schiff supposedly has new impeachment evidence that will end up changing no ones mind.
@@zackbrangen1528 That's not true, some cared enough in their righteous anger to commit online harassment of these who didn't leave the channel as well as their their families.
@KANYANTA MWANSA one was they didnt have enough fizzy drinks and snacks at the filming of one of thier movies, and the other was some ppl thought maybe some one in ca (not the walkers) knew jew wario was a pedo and didnt tell everyone after he was fired. thats all i could gather.
Rob and Doug you need to seperate from Mike and get your IP back. You might be able to survive this as a solo act if you throw him out. Youll still have fans.
Agreed. No idea of the actual power Mike has over the Nostalgia Critic or general Channel Awesome stuff in general but it's clear that he's the source of the problem, and Doug/Rob being too close friends with him has only worsened that. If they can both come clean and cut him off then they can probably save this situation, or at least save a lot of face. Either way this week will probably be their last chance since people were already telling them this last week.
From what I've heard, Mike owns the Nostalgia Critic name, so Doug can't leave without loosing that IP and all associated characters. It's probably not impossible to start again from scratch, but would be a huge effort.
Yeah, that would be Tumblr. Pretty awkward to sit next to someone sprouting random "facts" from a google docs and act all mighty and entitled about bringing down companies they don't agree with.
Xvladin He makes NC videos every week, and the controversy started shortly after last episode. And considering this episode came out 2 days after it was supposed to, it would make sense that he did this as a last ditch effort.
Johnny Depp: "what's going on with the beard?"
Al Pacino: "I don't want people to know I'm in an Adam Sandler movie"
😂 priceless
Johnny Depp: "what's going on with the beard?"
Al Pacino: "I don't want people to know I'm in an Adam Sandler movie"
Buuuut.... DEPP WAS OKAY WITH IT?!?!?!?
Back Country Pastimes I dont get why Nc said Depp should have been wearing the beard
It’s weird how Johnny was in Charlie And The Chocolate Factory. He is so different now then compared to his 2011 self
Austin Kruse it’s because the current films Johnny Depp starred in weren’t good
9:45
I like how people are down voting because of the controversy, but to people completely out of the loop; it just makes it look like a bunch of people are upset he badmouthed Jack and Jill.
Because Adam Sandler's quality makes that plausible... :|
The comments of this video was where I first learned about the controversy, and my initial thought when seeing the like to dislike ratio was that Doug was going to say he kind of liked the film.
That makes it extra hilarious
Robert Sides True. Lol
You have to realize that a lot of people were already tired of the character and his vids havent been as funny in a long time to many. The fact that he is an uncaring prick in real life doesnt help though.
I find amusing that this movie is often considered as the worst one ever made while The Godfather is considered as the best one. Al Pacino was in both...
I don’t see your reasoning...
The duality of man
Don’t forget Pacino was in Gigli too 😳
Al Pacino is truly the duality of men, one minute he is in Godfather, Heat and Glengarry Glen Ross, next he is in this movie
Godfather is trash. It is beyond me why people like that trash.
I can't actually find what the controversy was about because of all the comments talking about how everyone is commenting about the controversy.
*Ironic*
I feel fucked with too.
WHAT THE SHIT ARE YOU PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT? !
HAL 9000 Hey, at the very least you know it isn't important.
Basically from what I remember the controversy is that the head of Channel Awesome was being an unfair jackass to everyone there and people jumped to the conclusion that man was Doug.
@@sabbathb6548 Oh alright
To be fair, Doug and Rob did some horrible stuff too. A RUclipsr called Cinematic Venom made a documentary on it, covering everything from the span of a year since the controversy
I was curious so I dipped into the comment section
almost didn't get out alive
I sincerely regret that no one here will actually be talking about the movie review.
Steven Wills no
MLBlue30 I thought it was funny. Call me a blindly devoted fan if you will but I still find entertainment in these reviews, I have for almost ten years now
This is the first time I loaded the video specifically to pause it and read the comments instead. What can I say? I like a good Internet soap opera.
TheCoolperson1996 stay a fan if you want, I'm just here to monitor meme accuracy.
I find it hilariously ironic that Pacino dropped out of Despicable Me 2 a month before its release, yet stayed aboard this sinking ship.
At least he's gonna be in The Irishman
Not the brightest bulb
Pacino is so cool. He became one of greatest actors of all time but now he stars in ridiculous movies. Tbh I feel like if we had given him more Academy Awards we wouldn't have this problem...
That's like being on a Yatch and then landing on a small boat with a hole in it
i just think pacino was blackmailed into being in this movie
For anybody who is confused about the controversy, I will try to explain it to the best of my ability without being biased. I will try to simply go by facts.
Recently, a large amount of Channel Awesome employees left the Channel, and put up a Google Doc listing several ways they were mistreated, including abuse of employees (particularly females), blatant favoritism, really bad work environments, and being fired for ridiculously petty reasons (seriously, who fires someone for taking time off to have a surgery?). They also talked about how filming the anniversary specials was a nightmare, thanks to rushed schedules, poor communication, a large amount of injuries, and Doug and Rob being rather bad at handling big projects like those (they seemed to both overestimate themselves and everybody else).
The majority of these problems (not including the anniversary specials) can mostly traced to Mike Michaud, the owner of the Nostalgia Critic (Doug gave him the rights because Doug just wanted to focus on making videos) and Channel Awesome, who at some point decided to practice being a mustache-twirling evil overlord. Doug and Rob are getting a huge chunk of the blame since:
A. They’re the cocreatorrs and faces of the website.
B. Obscurus Lupa (a former employe) recently posted a tweet about how Doug essentially stood by and did nothing while Michaud abused his authority (like firing her for not immediately responding to a Skype).
C. A certain quiz show money-handling fiasco (Doug ended up with more than planned, and a lot of it didn’t go to what it was supposed to).
D. I refer you back to the anniversary specials.
So basically, everybody’s mad at Doug and Rob for just looking the other way when Michaud treated everyone else like shit while they were essentially treated like kings. The Walker Brothers are also getting a lot of hate for trying the *if I ignore it, it’ll go away* strategy regarding all this instead of talking about it. I have my own theory regarding the Walker’s reasons for doing this, *but* I said I was going to keep this unbiased. If you want my opinion, check my response.
So, if you want my opinion on why the Walkers aren’t talking about all this, it’s because they *can’t.* I’ve seen their Sibling Rivalries and Vlogs and, for the most part, they seem like pretty nice guys. Hell, Doug once even apologized to Noah Antwiler (Spoony) for accidentally stealing one of his ideas (Doug just happened to think of the exact same thing)! So, while I don’t deny they probably did nothing to stop it, I don’t think it was willingly and/or they were OK with it. I think it’s because by that point, Michaud had gained so much power that now the Walkers are near-powerless figure heads *at best,* or just glorified regular employees *at worst.* Michaud essentially constantly has a gun pointed at their job (Mahuad *really* owns the Nostalgia Critic), so he’s probably forcing them to keep quiet. I love Doug and the Nostalgia Critic, and I’ll continue to watch his videos, but I won’t deny I’m a bit disappointed by all this.
You left out the part where they knew Jew Wario was grooming his young fans and they covered it up.
Welp, the bubble was bound to burst eventually. In a strange way, I'm glad this issue is finally seeing the light of day. On one hand, change for the company is anticipated, for better or worse, which I'm looking forward to. On the other, I really despise to see such talent go to waste by the mishandlings of a puppeteer. He is no Gepetto, no Jeff Dunham, but simply a greedy overlord who is confined to see a 1-dimensional view of "awesome". This channel should emulate at least 3 dimensions of awesome, be it creativity, well-rounded communication, and overall fluid cameraderie. hell, it needs to be more than 3 dimensions. I still wish to stick by this channel, if only because I have hope in what's right, and that what's right, will be done. After all, the show, the review, must go on.
Thanks! I scrolled for something like ten minutes to get a clue what the toxic comments are about!
I like the nostalgia critic and it's sad to hear what's behind the scenes. If this document is true, it needs to be dealt with, especially Mike. I hope, it won't affect other people's jobs like Dougs, since I love his content, but when all of his fans swing the hammer like this, it probably could.
People need to calm down, think of something rationally and I would support it. Not this shitstorm in the comments.
Thanks for posting this. Wish it was posted at the top so every one would see it first thing. Controversy is depressing and reading the comments it feels like a lot of people are jumping the gun and making assumptions left and right.
My wife and I went on opening night to see this movie. She actually thought it was really funny. It was the first time in my life that I thought I married the wrong woman.
U still married
Thank you for postıng a comment that actually about thıs revıew.
Not some drama bullshıt that has nothıng to do wıth ıt.
i'm sorry man... :(
Yeah, you done goofed.
Divorce
It's the only option
Al Pacino romancing Adam Sandler in drag is probably exactly what hell is like.
Honestly...
I’ve seen Hell its not to bad, it’s just Adam Sandler kissing your neck, oh wait, wrong person, it’s Joe Biden
It makes Christopher Walken and John Travolta in drag look credible.
That’s just the beginning of hell
@@ninjabluefyre3815 Idk they had chemistry and were weirdly cute together. I guess it's because they leaned into the campiness of Hairspray and had fun with it.
Al Pacino should at least be portrayed as a T-chaser loving dongs
This review was way better than the actual movie XD
Mauricio Arroyave agree
@@pidolor72 Hello, mid 15th century corrupt priest here, I can confirm that is atleast 200 times better than this sack of shit of a movie.
I agree
True
Like most of his reviews
This would be a good time for the "Elephant in the Room" character from his old reviews to interrupt this review and mention Mike Michaud.
I never ever EVER read RUclips comments, but it was worth scrolling down to read this one. Thank you for making my 1 and only trip to the comments section worthwhile.
Yep
That would have actually been a good way to address the problem. Sadly Doug and everyone else probably wouldn't be able to do that with the way things have been lately
Yes, we need The Elephant back at least once
I don't remember that one. when did the Elephant show up?
I like how this movie was released in 11/11/11 and winning a razzie for every category! This should be on nostalgia critic S11 E11!
Looking at the count, this is Season 11, Episode... 14. In the words of Wario:
"D'oh, I missed!"
I've tried to not address this in the comments but it's such a big problem I just can't let it pass...
12:40 Those aren't Jalapeños, those are actually Chile de Árbol, or tree chili...
In the context of this comments section this is a god tier comment
Titan Slayer Why, thank you sir
Me sacaste de la duda... Thank you.
And that is not an old lady, is Eugenio Derbez in drag
You're welcome :)
Let’s be honest the nostalgia critic is the only reason people come to channel awesome
Also for Chris Stuckmann, Cinema Snob, Angry Joe, and Jeremy Jahns.
Alberto Productions Who?
Ironically found this RUclips channel through the recommends after binging Phaelous'.... whole library.
Yep. Its especially true now since only two producers are left on the site: Brad Jones and Guru Larry (who's only sticking around to troll on twitter).
+Alberto Productions and Masako ^_^
I'm betting Doug is under contracted obligation to keep doing these reviews and isn't allowed to talk about the controversy.
**Edit**
There is an official response on the Channel Awesome website. It's likely not from Doug and it doesn't cover every issue, but it's way better than just saying nothing forever. Still, it would be nice to get Doug's thoughts as he pretty much is the face of Channel Awesome.
could he be allowed to say he isnt allowed to speak of the controversy?
Oukawa王川Kenshin謙信 Normally I think that would be the case but judging from the document Michaud is very sensitive about their image so even saying he can't talk about it makes them look bad.
It's not like the accusations were against him so he probably doesn't give a fuck. He's gonna stay successful and still not give a fuck.
Key Strix I bet it is. The boss seems like a dick tbh
Oukawa王川Kenshin謙信 pobally not either
Cause its still indirectly talking about it
Fun fact : 11:35, that a cameo from a french comedian, Gad Elmaleh. He got a carrier of comic stand up and movies in france, and even got a part in a Spielberg (Tintin where he played the owner of the third unicorn). And right now, he is in a scandal of stealing joke from little comedian... and everybody hate him for a really bad commercial he did for a Bank company where he just do a stand-up and says "I dream of a bank that engaged himself, that help me" and the public laugh... Yep... I supposed we can say he's the french Adam Sandler, complete with having a character in drags and beeing tolerate to play a populare cartoon characters (he's the french voice of Gru in despicable me)
Do you have any more facts on this film?They’re actually interesting. No joke.
@@STYLIX_ about this movie, no, but about french actors, maybe...
@@MJFERMEZLA salut MJ
When this video opened with Doug hiding, I thought it had to do with the recent controversy. I’m sure most of you thought the same
i did 2, i hope things get better soon
yes! lol
Poeticphyre I agree. I've been a fan of the Nostalgia Critic for 11 years this whole thing is a kick to the heart.
I knew Doug wouldn't acknowledge it, so I just mentally switched Adam Sandler to the controversy to make myself a mem.
Cheers what controversy?
To all of you disappointed that Doug still hasn't addressed the Channel Awesome controversy...
I'm really sorry you feel that way.
oh damn that was good
i see you are a smart one
Based on the comments, I believe it already has.
Reeee!! But jokes aside thats a damn good one lol
This comment needs to be pinned to the top!
Remember when Pewdiepie, Fine Bros and Screen Junkies had their own controversy?
What do they do?
They took a long break because people were still talking about their controversy. And later, they made an apology video or apologize on social media. But, seems like Doug doesn't give a shit. Even Logan Paul made his own apology video.
Damn... This must be when all the "Change the Channel," shit first hit. I can't imagine he got this many downvotes because so many people love Jack and Jill and are mad he's raging on it...
That's not what the dislikes are for lol.
@@Gloomyraindrop did I miss something? What is it for?
@@Gloomyraindrop o think he was attending it to be a joke
Little did Doug know Dunkaccino would become even more popular than the film itself.
I honestly don't care or want to care about all that drama. As entertainment goes this is still one of my favourite shows, and i'm gonna stick by it as long as it's still good.
Doug quit channel awesome and doesnt have the rights to the nostalgia critic character. The show is cancelled
Well that's a bummer.
Dude...his recent videos have been trash/forced....
No it isn't he's still doing it
Looking back it funny that people who claim to be victim and people who support them try every thing to ruin channel
-Fake news about Doug leave
-Criticize CA when he do charity, tell every one he just do it save face, but ignore the fact that CA do this many years before
-Rant show that NC review not Nostalgia enough
Yes channel suffer, but just a bit they start to recover now
I don't hate you Doug. At all. You're the reason I watch this channel. But you need to at least ADDRESS the controversy that's going on.
Nah, this is the "Ignore everything and hope it blows over" strategy.
Blackiecomics Mike probably isn't going to let it
Blackiecomics true shit
they've addressed it poorly and dug themselves into a deeper grave
Blackiecomics
no he doesn't. If it was worth it he would.
The fact that al Pacino, the man who played in motherfucking Scarface is in this movie is insane to me
Ok
And Godfather!
Eugenio Dervez is actually a really beloved and funny comedian and improvises really good in Mexico but in this movie as Felipe is one of his worst acts, he even recognized that and made fun of in a sketch he made
agree but it almost to say that he has lost his charm once he start doing movies in Hollywoood
Which one?
Luis Enrique Galicia Don’t even get started with Overboard. The dude can act but he has chosen some shitty movies to star in. What a waste of talent
beloved? He was funny in the 90s, had a hit-and-miss in the early 2000s and was basically running on fumes by the time he made "La Familia P.Luche"... His comedy's been dead for years as his last cinematic bombs show, along with the feud he held for a couple of years with Televisa's directives, and working with Happy Madison is not really an upgrade.
Derbez es muy querido aquí en México... Pero si tenemos en cuenta lo malísima que es esta película en sí misma, y aparte el humor que Derbez solía incluir en sus show sin ningún contexto... El resultado es un desastre...
I really hope Mike gets what is coming to him. I honestly feel bad for Doug, being unable to give an actual apology due to what Mike would do. Hopefully Doug manages to leave, and that CA will go down shortly afterwards.
Doug isn't innocent in all this, make no mistake. Mike is the main issue though.
Either that or they manage to kick mike and find a better ceo to take over and channel awesome becomes grest again
SomeCartoonChick I know, I've learnt that after making the comment. I know Doug isn't completely innocent.
where is the proof
DJ Prime i wish that could happen. But considering how tough it will be to get the rights back (seriously, Dumb move on Doug's part. Who gives away THEIR OWN CHARACTER?!)
I don't assume people would just return to Channel Awesome since bonds and trusts have been broken, but it would be a start!
If Doug stays quiet, he loses the public's respect.
If Doug speaks out, he loses his job *and* the Nostalgia Critic.
Well he's fucked.
Ladondorf It's amazing that there are a bunch of idiots around here who haven't figured out why Doug can't speak out yet and it really just feels like the videos are cash ins now.
If i was in Doug's shoes i would rather lose my Job then work for someone like Mike Machud.
He could just do a new kind of review series. Nostalgia Critic was getting stale anyway.
why did he give him of all people the rights to his character?
I highly doubt it'd be a success, though.
Jack and Jill went up a hill to fetch a pail of water. Jack fell down, and broke his crown, and Jill said "I'm sorry you feel that way".
Moonbeam ok that was really funny
T McK Thanks!
*fell that way
Heeeeey, that didn't rhyme - kidding. You've won the Earth.
Bronson Ferrigno Nah, he won the universe for that comment. Shit was hilarious.
Where were you? *laughs in adam sandler*
Verified person with no replies? That’s a first
This comment section did not age well
Don't you understand? It's all ogre! Nostalgia Critic will never recover!
Edit: Oh wait, Doug uploaded a NC video 2 days ago. My bad.
I'm still curious about the outcome of the fiasco. Malcom did say a video was coming soon addressing the situation. I still do care about the whole thing, as it was something that had been festering for years. I just wanna hear it from Doug and Rob's POV. Their response to the allegations in question is still important; not to us, but the ones who wrote their part in the document. Granted, the majority of allegations were against Michael, but Doug and Rob were major players in the channel's success and how it was run. In essence, they were, and still are, "managers" of some variety.
didnt take long.
Well it just poor management company + many un-pro people who have too much safe space + angry SJW who think it big deal
So yes it won't last long
@@MidnightSonnet What are these allegations? I just got back into NC and people are talking about some drama with Channel Awesome, what's going on?
I know you're not going to address the controvercy Doug. From everything I've heard, I know that Mike probably won't let you say anything, especially since he owns the Nostalgia Critic character. Your livlihood is on the line, and despite the crap going on I feel like you're kinda stuck. I just sincerely hope that Mike gets what's coming to him and that you can go on to create and be more.
Just a reminder that other content creators left and made money elsewhere. Doug has nothing to lose and everything to gain by supporting the other content creators.
Mike is his partner and I have a feeling Doug is doing fine
Ni N imagine quiting your job and losing all rights to your creation and thinking you have "nothing to lose and everything to gain"
A Marvelous Geek call me an idiot but, what exactly did CA do?
Mike is truly a terrible human being it seems.
Mike Michaud owns Nostalgia Critic. The next couple videos from Doug will probably have less effort put into them as they all try to work this out. It would be great if Mike Michaud released the rights to Nostalgia Critic but I doubt that’s going to happen. You guys can still enjoy Nostalgia Critic but be against Mike Michaud though.
That's exactly what I'm doing. I will continue to remain a fan and supporter of Doug Walker and the NC but I will hate and stand against Mike Michaud. The more I look into it, the more it looks like all this started from him and the more he looks like Amy and Samy from Amy's Baking Company and Matt and Karen from O Face Bar. I understand that bars/restaurants are different from internet shows but they're both businesses that need to be handled and managed carefully and that's something those people all failed to do.
"You guys can still enjoy Nostalgia Critic but be against Mike Michaud though."
*THIS.*
I unsubscribed from this channel out of protest against Mike Michaud. Not because I no longer appreciate Doug's work.
If they get rid of Mike Michaud (which is extremely unlikely unless Doug can somehow get the rights to the NC back from him), I will gladly resubscribe.
i was thinking the same thing. did you notice that this video has no adds no charity shout out and is 2 days late?
shits hitting the fan over at channel awesome right now
"Why is Katie Holmes the strangest thing in that lineup?" Cause she's normal.
I'm just here to see the like/dislike ratio
manamajoj, probably from the controversy going around.
ChaoticOwl 24 what controversy?
Look for the highly rated comment on this video by Zachary Herzfeld - he explains it
Cyborg Wolf oh hey me to
manamajoj everyone's being bitches over simething that happened almost 10 years ago that wasnt even that bad
1:14 when you try to escape the CA drama but the fans expect an apology
Doug:
>Looks at CA drama
*Screams while attempting to jump out a window so he can't talk about it*
Edward Jones
How much did Michel (what ever the fuck his last name is) pay you to say that?
Edward Jones do you even know what is going on with channel awesome?
malemuffin64 why do you even care? Does it effect us as fans? No? Then stay out of it. Its that simple. It's none of our business
Edward Jones ok mike
I haven't seen a single comment that was actually about Jack and Jill
Ryan Luster i happened fortunately to write a comment about it than going through the comment section
🤣🤣🤣
Bonehead Trevor
So? Other people had criticized Ed Wood films long before, but MST3000 still took their turn to roast them. We are the Mad Scientists, and Walker is our tormented Astronaut.
I guarantee all the downvotes have nothing to do with his performance or critique. This same video 6 months ago wouldn’t have had 300. Which I find almost an abuse of the system, almost. I generally hate it when people downvote for reasons that have nothing to do with a video’s specific merit, but I suppose if Doug is being that stubborn, then perhaps there may be no other way to get his attention. If he DOES apologize, I would expect everyone to return to this video and express their acceptance of his apology by either up voting or at least un-Voting.
Elder Millennial nah. People are pretty stubborn. Look at what happened to Pewdiepie. This is gonna stick for a few weeks. Maybe a month or 2.
Once when i was little, i saw the ending of jack and jill and thought it was a bad dunkin donuts ad...
I was right
Shit, this makes me feel old. When I was little, Adam Sandler still made good movies...
Personally I'm not a fan but can't you just leave him alone?
adam sandler always made films for his fans.
He never claimed he makes films for the world. He also doesn't care for awards.
And to anyone who likes this film, more power to you.
Same.
I love the different edited versions people had made for it on Twitter.
I blame Doug shaving his head for everything that happened with Channel Awesome recently
Flash He did it for his Norm of the North review.
I blame him changing the color of the wall.
The intro was a pretty good representation of Channel Awesome avoiding responsibility. And Doug, Im sorry you feel that way.
Well when he waits this long to review one of the most reviewed and hated movies, im not surprised he steals ideas.
Doug just take your favourite actors and ditch C A. Make a channel called Critical Nostalgia and be done the baggage.
kerrr rr he can’t they own the rights to nostalgia critic
or ignore people that cry about shit all the time
Ben Martin I don't understand that. Does Mike own the name and likeness, because if so couldn't Doug just change his outfit, his clothes and then be done with Mike? It's not like someone can own the rights to angrily talk about bad movies, and if he is afraid no one would follow him if he changes names, the AVGN use to be called the Angry Nintendo Nerd and no one stopped watching him because of that.
kerrr rr it won’t be that easy, his boss owns the rights to nostalgia critic which means that if he went with making critical nostalgia he has the power to at best strike these videos down and at worst can sue for copyright infringment. so if he spoke out and lost his job he woulden’t even be able to get himself the ability to make these videos.
(i will admit i don’t know if that is how it works but i think this could happen)
Cristovao Chocha they would strike his videos the would make him sign a contract
Jack and Jill is the worst horror movie ever made. However, It doesn’t mean it isn’t the scariest movie ever made.
What is the scariest movie ever made
@@michaelgrand346 jack and jill
A post-Halloween film since it came out in November.
Agreed. A Home Of Our Own (1993) released 18 years earlier starring Kathy Bates and Edward Furlong is a horror movie, but it’s not scary.
God, I hate this movie. This was not only a bad movie, this was the worst movie I have ever seen. Bar none.
Seriously, this movie makes me so uncomfortable that it makes me feel sorry that I was ever an asshole to my younger siblings.
I couldn't agree more. This was worse than DragonBall: Evolution, Shyamalan's Last Airbender, Highlander: The Source, Transformers 4 AND 5, and Mortal Kombat: Annihilation COMBINED. And those were ALL on my Top 10 Worst Movies Ever list..... YES. Jack and Jill is somehow WORSE than everything I just listed.
@@mitchellneu Admittedly, I liked Transformers 4, despite its glaring flaws. I will agree that TF 5 wasn't very good, though.
And yeah, Dragonball: Evolution and The Last Airbender is also on my personal shitlist.
Never seen Highlander: The Source.
Wasn't a fan of the original MK movie, so Annihilation didn't even catch my radar.
Matthew Cool Highlander: The Source is the fifth(and final)movie in the Highlander series....and the WORST ONE. MK: Annihilation was just...awful. Until Jack and Jill, that was my all time worst movie ever. Makes the original MK movie look Oscar worthy....check it out if you’re brave enough to deal with cringe-worthy dialogue, meh fight sequences, awful visuals....you get the idea.
Try The Motorcycle Diaries.
You'll see a sh*t movie, lol
Winds of March Journey/Perry tribute band is that the one on Che Guevara before he became a Castro supporter/icon for rebellion and anarchy? I had to watch that in high school AND college and both times I wanted to blow my brains out.
I hope Adam Sandler responds to this by saying, "I regret you feel that way man."
Napalm Blaziken lmao oh boy this isnt gonna stop for a long time is it
TraGicLife Maybe. But it could also blow over very soon. That's the thing about the internet.
Regardless of the controversy, I can totally see Sandler responding that way to hate
Napalm Blaziken pretty much how the general public works. One minute we're glued to the controversy and ready to up and arms, the next we'll get bored and move on to the next. It's like watching a trainwreck that you can't unsee.
An actual cameo by him or the real shyamalan would be so unexpected.
I do feel so bad for Tamara and Malcolm....no one should attack THEM. They're caught in the crossfire and it sucks.
Hell even Doug is stuck in a rock and hard place.
I feel bad for them too but they really need to step up and make the right choice and address the huge elephant in the room before things get any more worse than it already has.
mjangelvortex they have enough views on their own to where they can split from CA and they should for their own sake. I really feel bad for Doug cause he's straight effed. Mike owns the NC character
fr, I hope they can get there money doing this job and then move on to bigger and brighter things.
I need some clarity here. Can someone give me a few details cuz i still can't understand what's going on. Who's at fault at CA?
Zephyr Weiss petty small content creators made a document saying how they were t treated properly
9:24 Adam Sandler's reaction to this movie when he was sober.
I'm just here for the shitshow in the comments.
I’m here to help that shitshow
Riley Redux I don't get what this controversy is, could anyone fill me in?
Riley Redux think there being deleted
Some old employes releashe a document about how channel awesome mistreed them. That star the controversy. Then channel awesome apologize in twitter but no one was satisfied with that. And we end up with this shitshow
This is just what happens when you channel gets big. Where was all this controversy before 1mil??? People who left are salty
I know doug doesn't own this anymore, but you always say "come on!" And point out faults in things.... I have yet to see SOME (you know who you are) be so open and introspective publicly. So now it is our turn...COME ON, REALLY?!
The thing is, on the list of people that deserve blame, Doug's pretty low on the list. He's not innocent, but a recurring theme I'm seeing is that most of the problems were caused by Mike. I think Doug can recover from this, but not as long as he stays with Channel Awesome.
But that kinda puts him in a rough spot because He doesn't own the rights to his own character.
if he can get his NC ip back from Michaud adn fire him,a nd hire managers and hr people, he could survive! Get rid of Michaud.
Michaud is the CEO
Michaud is the majority Shareholder
Machaud literally CAN'T be fired.
Yea Doug should leave and restart his reviews somewhere else. He's got a good show and it doesn't deserve to get ruined by Michaud.
They should just make a movie starring Adam Sandler called “Product Placement: The Movie”
We had that, it was called Foodfight. It just didn't have Adam Sandler.
@@aidanredding8058 Oh really?
Stop writing that down Adam Sandler
I remember the Robot Chicken sketch about Jack and Jill where it's revealed that Jill is actually Jack, but only a separate personality, and then it suddenly turns from a comedy into a psychological horror. Honestly, that would've made for a better movie.
Also, at the end, it should've been like this: "Jack and Jill is Jack and Sh*t, and Jack left town."
That sounds implausible, like something they'd do in a parody, but not the actual movie, but if you think about it, Click kinda did that...
I can see them writing that movie like "Oh yeah, then he uses the pause button, and then the fast forward button, but at the end he confronts the woman he loves and learns his lession." So they're ready to produce the movie, but that night at the bar some guys from the meeting are making fun of the movie half drunk like "Oh yeah these movies are all the same dumb shit!" "I know right!" "Ahah! Imagine this, what if we actually make a serious movie for once, wouldn't it be hilarious? Like after using the remote and all the shenanigans, Sandler accidentally skips years ahead and misses his children growing, and misses his dad dying and all of a sudden the movie becomes super dramatic!" "Ahaha!"
Then the next morning one of them is like "You know what..."
Say whatever you want about Adam Sandler but at least he paid his actors and at least had drinking water on set. You should quote one of your songs dedicated to Sandler: "What the hell happened to me?".
You weren't at adam sadler's set and you weren't at channel awesome. Therefore you can't have a right to criticize them like that
godot Yeah, but you can still call out facts. Just because you never made a movie, does not mean you can't criticize them.
You weren't there. You don't have a clear picture of what REALLY happened. Only some allegations. Therefore such hard critisizing is unfitting
godot and you were?
Where are the proofs?
When the Elephant in the Room is never addressed. Dougs old meme has come back to haunt him
I mean.
Not a lot of people really know, nor do they particularly care. There are allegations, and that's it. You're assuming guilt based on someones statements, most of which are contradicted by the response (Which provided physical evidence to substantiate their claims).
And honestly. Do you actually care?
Storms and Saugeye Based on Dislikes a lot of people care. Not addressing the issue only makes it worse
I WAS FROZEN TODAY
joseph stalin The main face should exactly be the one talking bout these issues. You think wouldnt get mad if Zuckerberg wasnt the one answering the Senate right now and just some random Facebook employees?
Doug represents channel awesome whether he likes it or not and some allegations are thrown his way too. If youre accused of something wouldnt you defend yourself?
666melodeath666 Me and the elephant are playing blackjack, care to join us?
I don't know why but Jill punching that guy that fixed jack's Jill costume made me feel bad. I mean he was just trying to help and wasn't trying to grope her, so it makes me kinda sad.
Any one notice there wasn't any sponsor?
Gotta wonder why...
hakukahn No clue. It's an enigma.
Not even a charity shout out by the end of this video...
黒井カイKai Kuroi do charities not even want to be associated with him?
OnigiriPuff thank god, those were getting annoying.
So... uh... anybody here wanna talk about how bad Jack and Jill was?
* crickets chirp *
On a scale of 1 to Channel Awful's response to the Channel Not So Awesome document, how bad was Jack and Jill?
Well actually I would've said from '' Channel Not So Awesome document'' to 10, how bad was the movie, unless you consider the movie to be worse than his responce
We kinda all knew already... I'll let the " lets not talk about this whole issue" to brad's videos, Doug has a whole fucking lot to answer to
No to talk about it will let live on and it needs to die
Dragon Gameing Agreed
At first, I though the opening was a joke about Doug hiding from the Channel Awesome controversy. Actually, I still think that Doug did that on purpose.
StarKiller 56 I'm pretty sure it was a just a reference to end of the movie Fargo.
Celebrities playing themselves in this: Al Pacino, Johnny Depp, Jared Fogle, John McEnroe, Drew Carey, Regis Philbin, Christie Brinkley, Billy Blanks, Michael Irvin, Bill Romanowski, and the person formerly known as Bruce Jenner.
What's that Doug? You didn't like the movie?
I'm sincerely sorry you felt that way.
Anime Professor well that was childish, but I’m sure channel awesome is grateful for your exposure.
i don't get it...
What a shock.
So you suddenly like the movie now?
Shayla Nash I'm sure they're grateful too. All 3 of them. :)
I don’t hate you guys, but I would like a response video detailing what’s next for the channel
ATAG Chozo hopefully nothing they just shut down.
The 11th Anniversary movie will star Doug and Guru Larry. It's gonna be great!
ATAG Chozo its coming they sed on twitter
ATAG Chozo Same. I still got a lot of respect for them but an apology or an announcement is in order. Silence or ignoring it makes me think there is some validity to the claims.
Well they have already released 2 announcements. Both of which made them look guilty and like complete idiots. Not sure what a 3rd will accomplish.
Well, ten bucks says that most of the dislikes will be because of the channel awesome controversy.
I will take that bet... so how do we find out?
Al Hoyt You like unfunny skits?
Nathan Price You dont, outside of maybe asking every single person who disliked why they did. So either get busy or pay each other I guess.
Eh I would bet my social security number.
Anime is Trash funny that you commented that on a review with 0 skits
This Movie: The trailer got people to say it was the worst movie ever.
Cats (2019): Hold My Beer...
Freddy Got Fingered, Garbage Pail Kids, Bio-Dome, Death of a Nation(2018), and even The Room. The list goes on.
GUYS: Remember that the Nostalgia Critic is OWNED BY MIKE MAUCHAD. If Doug tries to say anything about what's happening publicly he'll get fired and he can't be the NC anymore. It's stupid but it's true.
Part of me wants to say, "Doug, is it really worth holding on to the Critic if it means getting dragged down with Michaud?" But on the other hand I don't know all of the logistics, so I don't know if it's that easy.
If he had a conscious he'd leave, but he's part of the problem.
Lauren Frost Have some empathy man... This is Doug's Career and passion, its not easy for ANY normal person to just leave all those years of work behind in an instant. And remember CA owns nostalgia critic its not like he can leave and keep doing it, it isnt his creative property.
creating a new name isn't hard. They can stop him from doing the same thing under a different name
Monkey Game who the fuck would be the nostalgia critic then!?!
Like it’s that simple to replace him!!!
the best critic of all time. I like his reviews
Indeed
Doug please leave the sinking ship that is Channel Awesome. Besides you only Brad Jones, witch is Cinema Snob, and Guru Larry are left. Threaten to leave, then buy the rights to Nostalgia Critic from Mike and be down with him. Then continue your Nostalgia Critic life on RUclips.
He has no reason to. If there are no other content creators, then all the problems they were having go away.
That's not the issue.
Yes it is.
The issue is the bad reputation Mike has earned for Channel Awesome and that he owns the Nostalgia Critic character. If Doug leaves or buys the rights to Nostalgia Critic he can distance himself from Mike.
Zackary Korczak wow that’s so simple, I’m sure Doug has so much money lying around no to mention the bills he need to pay in the meantime.
"Its just adam sandler"
*SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE*
I'm just sad because I really do enjoy the nostalgia critic episodes even some of the new ones, its just fun stuff to listen to, but its hard to enjoy with all the controversy I'm really just sad this all had to happen. I mostly blame mike for just being a bad CEO but you know just about everyone involved had a part in doing the website bad. I'm for sure Doug shrugged off things all the time. I know very little about anything behind the scenes as I believe most others do as well but I'm just disappointed this is the positions these entertainers I like are in.
Toxic Turtle Well, if Mike litterally owns the Nostalgia Critic, I guess Doug couldn’t realy say anything in fear of losing his job.
Toxic Turtle One of the best anime ever, Rurouni Kenshin, turns out to have been written by a man who purchased child pornography. I know how you feel, but we should hate the jerk and still appreciate the work.
From what I've seen Doug's worst actions typically amount to not standing up to Mike, or not publicly standing up to Mike, after he crosses the line.
A part of me really wishes we had a better idea of just how much of the problems with the channel were directly doug's fault or doing. Doug is the face of the channel and likely did play a part, but we don't know how much it is. We don't know if doug is as bad as some of these other criminals, or if doug was less guilty than most or had less control than we thought. He'll ultimately still suffer the damage and considering how much I've enjoyed their content, it still hurts to think about. I still enjoy Doug and Rob's work, and I specially love how much Tamara and Malcolm do for it.. and i hate to think of what they may all suffer due to actions committed by the former, or the troubles that surround them now.
I just really wish we knew more. But at the same time, knowing more would probably be more harmful than we think.
Can’t wait for the million subscriber special
identifymenot Ok, that was legitimately funny
I don't get it-
qwp
•muffin Lover• they currently are over a million, you can fill in the rest.
A Ninja but it's dropping like flies now
This made me laugh out loud, congrats
"One of the most despised flicks ever made! Let's hope Nostalgia Critic can get through it."
LOL The least of his problems.
Jesus SuckedGayPenis what a stupid edgelord name
John Doe Makes him feel good about himself. Sad, really.
Stephen Hawkins took it up the ass til he was paralyzed.
That user name is better for someone who wants attention.
I love it when NC makes Godfather references. Those first two movies are gems.
Doug's actual Facebook profile now says "Worked at Channel Awesome"
Ouch
Wait what is his actual facebook account? Link please
Never mind, found it
Wow.
thats sad
The critic wasn't hiding because he didn't want to review jack and jill. He was hiding from the channel awesome controversy.
He tried to kill himself cause Doug knows they will kill him cause he knows too much!
no it was because of the movie the controversy is stupid and only idiots believe that stuff when there is no proof
sebastian guerrero google doc and recorded conversations plus phony appoligy isn't proof?
sebastian guerrero you're an idiot if you still believe that after everything that has come out. You realize that they in effect validated most of the grievances put forward through their "response" don't you? At this point anyone still supporting CA based on the false belief that the google doc is all lies is being willfully ignorant. Enjoy your burning house.
What "Controversy"?
I love malcolm and tamera.
Don't leave...
They're great people who have nothing to do with the growing controversy. Therefore, for their own professional reputation, they should stay out of this. Hopefully the site burns down before this supposed "Addressing the concerns" video goes live so they can have a chance at further acting work after this.
They are normal people, let’s be honest...a lot of the older crew where unstable people at best, with clear underlying issues.
SmaMan hopefully it doesn’t burn down, on Twitter they said it was their favourite jobs
After both Tamara and Malcolm pretty much defended this whole thing on twitter and said the claims were full of shit (funny because Malcolm or Tamara were never there when this stuff happened, but they KNOW these are all lies!), they deserve every bit as much hate as the Walkers and Michaud are getting. As far as I'm concerned, it's fair game now.
Kain VS Predator I
*Critic:* “I know this is gonna sound weird, but-“
*Ad:* BA NA NA NA BA BA NA NA
Man, I was convinced the comments were going to be deactivated when this video came up. Maybe Michaud is so incompetent he doesn't even know that's an option.
He's going to keep the comments up cause people are coming here to complain. He probably figures fuck it, let them come and give him ad revenue. Of course, I enabled ad block for this channel since I heard everything. Fuck these guys.
Ni N Mikeys just giving everybody what they wanted; to bash more hate on the comment section. Like controversy gives celebraties even more publicity, adding fuel to the flames
Dreadjaws- that and the fact he's in some basement playing games on computer.
Dude! Don't give Michaud ideas!!!!
Michaud made the right decision by not deactivating the comments. That would just piss people off even more.
Has Doug struck out on his own? I really hope so, he can keep doing reviews even if he's not allowed to be the Nostalgia Critic anymore, I'd still watch them.
He can be the Artist Formerly Known As Nostalgia Critic. Like Prince!
After the Christmas song, I believe that Doug can pull off anything.
He could become the nostalgia cricket again, like during his reviews of the anniversary movies?
He could become the Nostalgic Critic
Hey I thought of that!... I didn't tell anyone...
This controversy is depressing...
Shiny Espeon it is
@XSeatoriaX *late comment*
it all started with "not so awesome", a document written by a group of ex-members of channel awesome. It talks about the walkers, and how they and Mike michaud had mistreated them. They complained about poor payments and disagreements, along with sexism, strict rules and even conflicts.
10:44 almost well-said, Critic. Whether in this movie or not, Pacino IS terrifying! XD
11:59 Okay, so here's the deal. I've seen quite a bit of Latino-stereotype jokes and for the most part, I find them to be funny (as long as they're in good fun). Favorite examples would be "Do The Right Thing" (11 to a car, 30 to an apartment
Would anyone else find it hilarious if one day you watch a new NC video and Mike has replaced Doug with some random guy?
yep,that would be the new =3
audie bridge Wouldn’t surprise me at all.
_Brad Jones' disturbing smile_ "Hello I'm almost the Nostalgia Critic !"
"Killer keemstar here, lets get riiiiight into the revieew!"
I'd have no reason to watch if that happened. I've been with NC since the yellow wall.
I feel like I'm watching the musicians on the sinking Titanic.
Accurate analogy.
I can’t blame critic. If I was told to watch Jack and Jill I’d try to jump out the window and head for the hills too.
I'm just here for the comments and they don't dissapoint.
Doug needs to get out of Channel Awesome now. Please, don’t let the Critic die because Channel Awesome can’t run a company right!
Pichu London he doesn't own the character unfortunately
He can't, the CEO of Channel Awesome owns the rights to nostalgia critic which would mean leaving the company would force him to stop doing Nostalgia Critic
Doug doesn't own the character.
Doug just let the shit go on because he had no power. If he even leaves CA, Critic is over because they own the rights and actually fund this.
The Nostalgia Critic IP is owned by Mike Michaud, so he ultimately has the say of what happens to it.
You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
Heth Rham henlo Meduca fan
They always were villains, we just didn't realize till recently
he is just an misunderstood villain. (which means he looks like an villain but he is not)
Heth Rham Lel
why is everyone hating on doug recently?
Nostalgia Critic: I'm the Nostalgia Critic, I remember it so that you don't have to.
Me: Well yeah, but...NO ONE should have to remember THIS.
How long will it take them to block the comment section and hide the like/dislike ratio
so they can act like Spoony?
Sam Price I give them that at least. They are not using this kind of bullcrap practices.
Sam Price the dislike ratio isn't too far.
Thomas Fernandez Far enough to send a message.
They shutdown the forums on the CA website.
Doug, just leave CA and start a new channel with a new character and keep the same concept. We'll follow you, not CA.
the problem is he's built up this show for 10 years its human nature to want to keep at what you do it's why so many captains go down with the ship's they know no other life and are afraid to change it
LightSchiffer doug is a part of the problem dont be ignorant
But he is CA. He and his brother made it.
LightSchiffer he doesn’t own the rights to the character
Which is presumably why Lightschiffer said "a new channel with *a new character*"...
My bet
His boss won't let him talk about whats going on beacuse of a contract or threats maybe to his show
I mean his boss owns Nostalgia critic as a whole character
Isn't he his own boss?
LoonyHalfBlood you wish. He sold his soul to the dude basically
Didnt realize making videos on the internet could be this seedy
LoonyHalfBlood I thought of the same thing for the longest time, but no... he unfortunately isn’t
It's sad but unfortunately Doug has to stay with channel awesome or lose the Nostalgia Critic.
I’m a girl with a twin brother and this movie always pissed me off as a kid. Good to know it still pisses me off the depths of my soul.
Your soul when it sees this movie “
RAGING FLAAAAAMES
How creepy will it be if Doug never addresses the elephant in the room, and just keeps smiling into the camera like nothing ever happened.
Doug won’t be able to, Mike Michaud has him on a leash pretty much.
Cemser it looks like he’s chosen his career. The reason why he doesn’t leave is if he does he loses all of his hard work and has to start over, still carrying the tarnished reputation of Channel Awesome but no longer having the SEO or even general brand recognition and preexisting revenue stream staying here provides.
Guru Larry is there out of spite, wanting to watch the site sink
Oh my...
Cemser yeah, tells someone struggling to pay their bills that at least they have a good reputation. I love how people tell him what he should do even though they won’t have to deal with the consequences.
You know, maybe someday there will be a comment about the video.
It seems that after 2 month they became the clear majority of comments, it wasn't really a long lived controversy, was it?
@@Kaefer1973 it lasted longer than it would in 2019 though. If the controvercy happened this year hashtags would have gone up on Twitter commentary videos would be made. And everything would have lasted about a weekend before everyone forgot because Schiff supposedly has new impeachment evidence that will end up changing no ones mind.
"Go back to the product placements! Go back to the product placements!"
17:15 "So this is a mental breakdown..."
Remember when everyone thought doug was dead and people actually cared about the controversy?
pepperidge farm remembers
nobody care about the controversy, they did it for the views
@@zackbrangen1528
That's not true, some cared enough in their righteous anger to commit online harassment of these who didn't leave the channel as well as their their families.
@KANYANTA MWANSA one was they didnt have enough fizzy drinks and snacks at the filming of one of thier movies, and the other was some ppl thought maybe some one in ca (not the walkers) knew jew wario was a pedo and didnt tell everyone after he was fired. thats all i could gather.
@KANYANTA MWANSA Nothing to do with Doug himselfn, just that other CA members amd the owner treates their staff like shit
@@Kaefer1973 Really? That is horrible. Who did they harass?
I'm just here for the comments.
Rob and Doug you need to seperate from Mike and get your IP back. You might be able to survive this as a solo act if you throw him out. Youll still have fans.
Doug MAYBE, but Rob? Nah, he is toasted.
Pretty sure he'll survive by just continuing to do his thing
Doug is not the victim here....
Agreed. No idea of the actual power Mike has over the Nostalgia Critic or general Channel Awesome stuff in general but it's clear that he's the source of the problem, and Doug/Rob being too close friends with him has only worsened that. If they can both come clean and cut him off then they can probably save this situation, or at least save a lot of face. Either way this week will probably be their last chance since people were already telling them this last week.
From what I've heard, Mike owns the Nostalgia Critic name, so Doug can't leave without loosing that IP and all associated characters. It's probably not impossible to start again from scratch, but would be a huge effort.
Channel awkward
Yeah, that would be Tumblr. Pretty awkward to sit next to someone sprouting random "facts" from a google docs and act all mighty and entitled about bringing down companies they don't agree with.
garglefunt Is that Mike Michaud using that account? 😂😂😂
Lol good one
WarpedCast I sure am
“I CAN’T STAND YOU BEING HERE!”
More like I can’t stand this movie being here
I remember when people were still hating on Rachel, Malcolm, & Tamara every time they showed up in these reviews.
jp3813 now people just feel bad for them lol
Coincidence that Doug is now reviewing the one movie a lot of fans, including me, wanted him to review amongst all the controversy?
The reviews take some time so this was def in production before he knew anything would be coming out. Just a coincidence.
He’s gonna remain silent what else were you expecting?
TheGreenMachine987 Yeah, if this ain’t damage control, I dunno what is.
Yes considering this was probably made before the controversy happened.
Xvladin He makes NC videos every week, and the controversy started shortly after last episode. And considering this episode came out 2 days after it was supposed to, it would make sense that he did this as a last ditch effort.
Just here for the comments honestly
loser with a whistle come for the comments; stay for the video.
Nope, skipping the video.
Me too
Exact opposite for me. I'm just trying to enjoy the video and avoid the cesspit down below.
While I’m just hanging out saying something stupid like ‘I love you’
Producers: Hey American Girl, can I put your product in this movie?
AG: Hahahahaha no
Even they, with their drop in dignity, had enough to say no.