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- Опубликовано: 30 ноя 2021
- There were a lot of comments saying that wood movement is blown out of proportion and you shouldn't worry about it. That's just as loaded of a statement as saying that wood will break if you capture a solid wood panel and don't allow for seasonal expansion and contraction. I'm convinced the reason for the poplar bottom panel to not break on this tray is that it was created with quality lumber, free of defects, lumber that was properly air dried before use and didn't undergo a drastic change in climates such as going from the humid south east USA to the dry south west USA.
I am from Nebraska. It can get humid here. That being said I will never complain about the humidity. I was stationed in Meridian, MS for 2 years in the early 70's. I had never experience that kind of humidity before or since. Siesta in the afternoon was common there. Great vid.
In Oregon instead of Hot Soup weather we have Cold Soup weather. I lived in Florida for over 30 years, can't decide which is worse.
Many years ago I was taught that wood moves after I screwed up the bed of my truck by trying to make a tonneau cover out cedar tongue and groove boards. It broke the welds on the bed near the cab and bent the tailgate latches. I even left the boards loose when fitting it.
But it sure smelled good ;)
Moot point at this juncture since you've fixed it, but I've found that my VPN causes problems with the 'reCAPTCHA in the past. I also agree with your theory about the hole in the middle of the tray, makes logical sense. Great info. Thanks!
Agreed I have never understood the statement that wood movement does not exist. Up here in Minnesota it's certainly an issue, and it really stands out in areas like breadboard ends. One of the things I do now is not enclose the end of the breadboard so that the haunch is free to travel with the wood movement, ... yep it can crack the end of the breadboard, and yep I had to replace it :-)
My Dad fell down the ham radio rabbit hole SMH. He got to know some nuts that had his wife telling him to come back down to earth and take off his tinfoil hat. Love her LOL! From one Jay to another, watch out! They will suck you in fast. He was driving off to meetings at cabins in the woods in no time. His wife said... No! You're not going! Again... Love her
Jay-you mentioned the chest was used for ammo in the mid-1800’s? Black powder was the only accelerant in wide use at that time. That stuff is incredibly hydroscopic. My theory is the black powder acted like a water-sucker (like the little bags you see in some metal tool shipments). Just a theory that, along with other factors, might explain how that panel has remained intact.
I've made joinery on a wet and rainy Summer day. The joints were nice and tight when dry fitting. The next day it was hot and dry and every single joint was like throwing a sausage down a hallway. Loose as a goose! The point being, it really doesn't take much to make the timber swell or dry out.
Build loose in winter and tight in summer.
Your comparison to Mississippi and Arizona is spot on. I live in Houston. We've also got hot soup weather.
I had an interesting experience last month. I took a 2 week camping trip in my trailer from Houston to the deserts of New Mexico and Arizona. In AZ I noticed that the nails (18 gauge nail gun type) that held the paneling to the wood frames inside the trailer were popping out. Some all the way. Figured out that the trailer that had "lived" in the Houston humidity for the last 5 years dried out in the desert, and the wood frames that were swollen with humidity shrunk down causing the nails to all loosen and shake free.
I've since nailgunned in new ones, but the next trip to dry areas I'll probably bring the gun along and reapply.
Interesting discussion.
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Interesting vid about the trays - I really enjoy looking at old designs and how they work!
I was also thinking of getting back into amateur radio (got my ticket back in the early 90s but didn't renew it). Met a lot of nice folks on the air and did some local radio foxhunting exercises.
Well... I don't know, Jay. I still think there's no glue, only nails on that tray.
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
There is glue. All materials are bonded at the seam. No gaps at all.
Yeah Ham Radio! 73 de N9JOD Welcome to another great hobby. Love the videos.
Hey jay maybe you could contact another maker that lives in another state with a totally different climate and humidity and let it live there for a while and then make a video showing the results. I think that experiment would be interesting.
Your theory on the hole in the bottom is spot on, but misses an important point. As a munitions chest, humidity and moisture is a concern. Having holes in the bottom of the trays throughout the chest allows moisture and humidity to pass through the chest, instead of accumulating in the different sections and causing issues not only with the chest, but also with the munitions stored inside!
As a volunteer firefighter (retired), I had the honor to participate in firing our city fireworks for many years during the holidays. Our mortars were stored in pyrotechnic safe boxes, similar to a munitions chest. I can tell you first had that humidity affects the range and distance of a simple mortar firework, and I imagine it would do the same with the munitions.
Yeah I figured it must have some drainage benefits too.
@@markpalmer3071 only if there are holes in the very bottom of the chest, which, if memory serves from the munitions chest he did previously, did not have. Otherwise, water would collect in the bottom layer of the chest.
The bottom of these chests is typically 3 white oak boards joined with a spline joint. All glued and nailed in place in a rabbit along the bottom inside edge of the case. No holes. Tight fitting.
@@JayBates2 I thought that was what you had done before. Thanks for chiming in!
I guess i'm spoiled, because of the climate here in Colorado. I've made lots of furniture without even thinking about seasonal expansion, and i've not yet had anything that cracked or distorted. I'm glad i'm not a professional, selling to people outside the state and what not - i think my luck would run out if something i made was moved somewhere humid.
Jay and I both used to live in Michigan. From hot soup in the summertime to desert dry in the winter. EXTREME weather conditions.
Im guessing if u put a liner in it, it allows you to push it out.
Love your newsletter, especially the interesting things around the web stuff. Absolutely hate and do not participate in anything Facebook. FB can suck on my right big toe.
Jay, several years ago you reviewed the Festool CT 26 v. ShopVac and said if you started your shop from scratch you would select the ShopVac. Do you still feel the same? thx
HAM...come down into the black hole I have discovered. 73
I thought the hole on the bottom was for a sheet of wood to be put there and be moved out easily by poking through the bottom
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Wow, Ham Radio! KN6IKE here…73!
Why would you waste good money to water down your RUclips videos to cater to Facebook folks who can't take the time to watch the full version. Your adding to the chaos that is Facebook.
How is it a waste of money?