What a train route!! Very interesting, wheeling through some fascinating countryside, slithering through train yards, creeping through a city and linking with other lines, in addition to navigating through some long tunnels, sans lights, with weather patterns that changed at least 5-6 times during the hour and 20 minute journey. Smooth, quiet ride, great video and a nice run. Thanks for the video in HD. Faved such.
I watch this Film regular,,,i was once a signalman at BR or Railtrack back then,,,,i use to Be employed at the Diggle box,,,20 mins before this Clip arrives at Picsdilly,,,,As i left the railways i regret applying for a driver vacancy that later that year was advertised,,,,,
I still remember the 1st time I rode a 185. I'd headed over to the NRM with my grandparents for my 12th birthday in October, 2006. We went on a 158 from Piccadilly & came back on a 185, I remember waiting on York Station watching it come down the platform & thinking "aww, I wanted one of those maroon things (didn't know what a 158 was then), what the hell is this new thing?!" :)
@Eddie J Parsons Yes there are signs, but the driver is also expected to know the speed limits off by heart as part of his route knowledge. The signs are white circular with red edges a bit like road signs. Where the speed limit drops by a significant amount (I think its a third or more) there is a warning sign before hand which is a triangle with a yellow edge. If the speed limit sign also has an arrow this means its showing the speed for turning out at the junction rather than the straight ahead speed.
Done the journey several times from Warrington via Manchester and york to Newcastle . The irony of this film is that once you leave Leeds, the heavens open - a typical welcome to Manchester ! ! !
brings back good memories,i used to work at Greenfield and Diggle signal boxes and of course in my free time with friends through Standedge Tunnel walked in 1993
Me cousin is a train driver for past 15 years , He has a PHD and drove HGV 1 for 10 years before making it as a train driver [ which he enjoys ] He said the tests are pretty hard and ongoing , bit like a pilot but I think having the PHD and doing HGV 1 for 10 years must of helped a lot , He drives intercity trains now from Paddington which pay good wages .
Actually it's the not being able to do things that makes it different. Train driving is a very repetitive environment, you drive the same routes on the same trains in the same conditions and yet you have to spot when things are out of the ordinary and react without fail.
There's an awful lot of work needed to get the clearance for the overheads between Huddersfield and Stalybridge , especially at the station with houses built right next to the track - glad it's not my problem.
I have 2 favourite things about this video 1 is when it is like just past sunrise and then like 30 minutes later the sun is out! 2 is it's kinda hard to explain but do you hear at times in this video it makes a noise? It kind of reminds me of a camera when filming! 📷
I often go down to London Euston from Stoke -as I did yesterday (and back). Be really interested to see one of that journey; often wondering which stations 'rush by'.
Good evening,Great video,the Standedge Tunnel we walked though many years ago,not the main line of course,but the single bore,,have you by any chance the same route going back towards York?or even Manchester Vic-Leeds via Summit tunnels Beacon hill,Wyke and Bowling Tunnels?I would love to see that,,,Thanks again and happy filming
Nice to see the old 1500 V catenary still in place. Just fit with larger insulators to take the 25kV tension. Similar to the Liverpool street line to Shenfield.
Thank you for such a fascinating video - however, 79 minutes for a limited stop service between York and Manchester seems pathetic, even allowing for the difficult route across the Pennines.
Hey George Nice Filming Mate, Im Also 14, Me Names Jack, I Love trains to, How did you get into the cab, Did you know the driver or book a day with a driver or asked at york? Thanks
If Br drivers need to learn routes, signals lights etc then what about these steam train charters that are run by volunteers and enthusiasts. How do they know about signals light aspects, when they should stop etc?
+ELPaso1990TX The numerous steam main line charters are crewed by trained railway drivers who know the routes being worked, many of whom began their lives driving or firing steam. Each trip also has a Traction Inspector on the footplate, also a man experienced in steam loco operation and, usually, particularly on the class of loco being used. On the "preserved" railways there is always a very structured training program for footplate crew involving independent examination. And remember that the main line charters are not normally run by volunteers. They are operated by reputable companies like VSOE, who specialise in offering this particular sort of special event experience. The enthusiasts are in the carriages - they're the people many of the trips are run for and happily pay good money to ride on.
I drove trains in NYC. BR has its act together! I would love to drive for BR! Can't understand one thing though... All of Europe is metric. But BR uses "miles per hour" instead of Kilometers per hour! Funny!!!
It's Ardwick, a virtual ghost station, to offically close it would take a lot of time and money, so they just have a train stop there 5 times a day Check wikipedia !
I dont understand this obsession UK railways have with EMU/DMU trains...Apart from the fact that some of them are so ugly that would be better to be scraped lol
What's technically termed 'Modular Operations' which eliminate the need for loco run-rounds and the additional track and infrastructure these require. Also termed 'Operational Rationalisation' ...
+Ian Tucker Yes, Westyrules is correct; it's a stop sign prohibiting any further progress along that track. Could be permanent pending lifting of an unused line, or temporary because there are works in progress which require track to be either lifted or obstructed.
+Geoff Barry The line is actually still in use. It is part of the Stockport-Stalybridge line and has only a single one-way service to Stalybridge on a friday. Although the line is often used by freight avoiding Manchester.
I think I’d have aborted this video with the crap weather! Must’ve been filmed a while ago, because I’ve noted three foot crossing that have since gone between Cottingley and Batley.
There are many foot/ level crossing which before approaching them there are 'W' boards which tell the driver to blow the horn for the walkers and cars on the crossings.
+David Sanderson Either because of the 'W' (Whistle) signs on the trackside, or in some instances to warn workmen (gangers) the driver has seen up ahead. They in turn acknowledge the train's presence by raising an arm to signal to the driver as the train passes.
I'm a trainee driver and I found this link very helpful with my understanding of the route . Don't suppose you have a link for the return journey .? Regards.
What a train route!! Very interesting, wheeling through some fascinating countryside, slithering through train yards, creeping through a city and linking with other lines, in addition to navigating through some long tunnels, sans lights, with weather patterns that changed at least 5-6 times during the hour and 20 minute journey. Smooth, quiet ride, great video and a nice run. Thanks for the video in HD. Faved such.
Thanks for the ride, I have never travelled over this route before,
Thanks for the video i use this route very often interesting to see it from this viewing point .
I watch this Film regular,,,i was once a signalman at BR or Railtrack back then,,,,i use to Be employed at the Diggle box,,,20 mins before this Clip arrives at Picsdilly,,,,As i left the railways i regret applying for a driver vacancy that later that year was advertised,,,,,
I still remember the 1st time I rode a 185. I'd headed over to the NRM with my grandparents for my 12th birthday in October, 2006. We went on a 158 from Piccadilly & came back on a 185, I remember waiting on York Station watching it come down the platform & thinking "aww, I wanted one of those maroon things (didn't know what a 158 was then), what the hell is this new thing?!" :)
@Eddie J Parsons Yes there are signs, but the driver is also expected to know the speed limits off by heart as part of his route knowledge. The signs are white circular with red edges a bit like road signs. Where the speed limit drops by a significant amount (I think its a third or more) there is a warning sign before hand which is a triangle with a yellow edge. If the speed limit sign also has an arrow this means its showing the speed for turning out at the junction rather than the straight ahead speed.
Thanks for the ride. Congratulations for the beautiful work.
Thx for posting. Travelled that route many times.
love looking at the dead winter trees
Done the journey several times from Warrington via Manchester and york to Newcastle . The irony of this film is that once you leave Leeds, the heavens open - a typical welcome to Manchester ! ! !
Very nice ride. Thank you.
Better than buying a ticket!
Real nice George!!
LUV it!!
brings back good memories,i used to work at Greenfield and Diggle signal boxes and of course in my free time with friends through Standedge Tunnel walked in 1993
Excellent video. considering I have recently applied for a trainie train drivers job with First It is great that I can watch a video like this
Very good, thank you!
rrealy enjoyed this vid thank you
First class and it is York as I live there hope you do more from york
Me cousin is a train driver for past 15 years , He has a PHD and drove HGV 1 for 10 years before making it as a train driver [ which he enjoys ] He said the tests are pretty hard and ongoing , bit like a pilot but I think having the PHD and doing HGV 1 for 10 years must of helped a lot , He drives intercity trains now from Paddington which pay good wages .
Driving a train is nothing like flying a plane. A pilot is on a whole new scale.
Actually it's the not being able to do things that makes it different. Train driving is a very repetitive environment, you drive the same routes on the same trains in the same conditions and yet you have to spot when things are out of the ordinary and react without fail.
PHD my arse
nice long tunnels
I'm an expat brit living in Oz. Gee I miss your weather and trains!!!
There's an awful lot of work needed to get the clearance for the overheads between Huddersfield and Stalybridge , especially at the station with houses built right next to the track - glad it's not my problem.
very smooth ride, nice video
super video, merci!
I have 2 favourite things about this video 1 is when it is like just past sunrise and then like 30 minutes later the sun is out! 2 is it's kinda hard to explain but do you hear at times in this video it makes a noise? It kind of reminds me of a camera when filming! 📷
I often go down to London Euston from Stoke -as I did yesterday (and back). Be really interested to see one of that journey; often wondering which stations 'rush by'.
Good evening,Great video,the Standedge Tunnel we walked though many years ago,not the main line of course,but the single bore,,have you by any chance the same route going back towards York?or even Manchester Vic-Leeds via Summit tunnels Beacon hill,Wyke and Bowling Tunnels?I would love to see that,,,Thanks again and happy filming
york -leeds - manchester vctoria cab ride is available on dvd
Nice to see the old 1500 V catenary still in place. Just fit with larger insulators to take the 25kV tension. Similar to the Liverpool street line to Shenfield.
Thank you
GREAT VIDEO
I have added this video to the playlist 'long cab rides'. I have reviewed hundreds of cab ride videos and added the ones I think are the best.
Were those vandalised speedboards between Huddersfield and Manchester? Nice video shame about the rain.
It doesn't surprise me
Xaiano They looked like someone had scribbled blue marker ink or perhaps spray painted over them.
Yes, I noticed that too.
Any Wigan NW to Lime Street ?
Thanks for the video it really goes through some beautiful countryside - is it a much used route ?
Are you a fucking idiot?
Seems like an innocent question to me...unless you know better Ciaran?
What class... Dmu
Class 180
Train Tube *185
Cool video, nice run across the pennines, may i ask what class the unit is? 185? or a 170?
Thank you for such a fascinating video - however, 79 minutes for a limited stop service between York and Manchester seems pathetic, even allowing for the difficult route across the Pennines.
Woah .. a 60-mile bird flight ending up taking THAT long in an over-crowded system .. woah
are those overheads still in use at Manchester as they were the old electric train system when woodhead were part of the network
Hey George Nice Filming Mate, Im Also 14, Me Names Jack, I Love trains to, How did you get into the cab, Did you know the driver or book a day with a driver or asked at york? Thanks
@Raymond Nelson That is Leeds.
this cab ride is available on dvd in the opposite direction
How is this a "route learner" ??
You need to put the name of the stations , junctions etc. on the video
31:52 That's a fair length of tunnel. Where is it and do you know the length?
U do hope this line gets electrified, as it can then be utilised to ease loadings on the ECML twixt Donny and York, utilising the Leeds loop
59:43 shows Saddleworth Viaduct which is 16 arches in length. Then 1:00:17 OMG there's my old house in Uppermill!!!
You went past Cottingley my village
If Br drivers need to learn routes, signals lights etc then what about these steam train charters that are run by volunteers and enthusiasts. How do they know about signals light aspects, when they should stop etc?
+ELPaso1990TX The numerous steam main line charters are crewed by trained railway drivers who know the routes being worked, many of whom began their lives driving or firing steam. Each trip also has a Traction Inspector on the footplate, also a man experienced in steam loco operation and, usually, particularly on the class of loco being used. On the "preserved" railways there is always a very structured training program for footplate crew involving independent examination. And remember that the main line charters are not normally run by volunteers. They are operated by reputable companies like VSOE, who specialise in offering this particular sort of special event experience. The enthusiasts are in the carriages - they're the people many of the trips are run for and happily pay good money to ride on.
How does the train driver know the speed he needs to, or can, travel at? Are there speed limit signs like there are for road users? Thanks.
Is this a cross country train cuz i see this train everyday pass through canley
Whats that old platform and bridge at 1:15 and 40 seconds?? What station was that?
What are the strobing chevron signs at the station stop (Huddersfield?) at around 47:00?
Emergency Temporary Speed Restriction (TSR). A TSR which has had to be applied after the last written list of all the TSRs was issued to drivers
What's the thing in the 4-foot at 4':49" at the crossover?
Judging by the sounds of the horn, I think 185.
At 1.17 going into Picc what do the letters above the signals indicate (UF, DF , DE ETC...) ?
UF: Up Fast. DF: Down Fast.
1:07:53 Looks like the old catenary from the old Woodhead 1,500V DC days.
Thanks for the ride
I drove trains in NYC. BR has its act together! I would love to drive for BR! Can't understand one thing though... All of Europe is metric. But BR uses "miles per hour" instead of Kilometers per hour! Funny!!!
not really, Britain works in miles, Europe works in kilometers. You do understand they are different things and that Europe isn't a country.
Oh, jolly good!
It's Ardwick, a virtual ghost station, to offically close it would take a lot of time and money, so they just have a train stop there 5 times a day
Check wikipedia !
What station is at around 36:30?
arent trains suppose to have lights on in tunnels
I dont understand this obsession UK railways have with EMU/DMU trains...Apart from the fact that some of them are so ugly that would be better to be scraped lol
***** In the past this route, although to Manchester Victoria were pulled by Class 45's mostly.
Basilis Gian Convenience and efficiency
What's technically termed 'Modular Operations' which eliminate the need for loco run-rounds and the additional track and infrastructure these require. Also termed 'Operational Rationalisation' ...
quick question at 1:10:00 is that someone in a red coat walking the track to the left?
+Ian Tucker I don't think so. It looks like one of those signs telling you the track is closed
+Ian Tucker Yes, Westyrules is correct; it's a stop sign prohibiting any further progress along that track. Could be permanent pending lifting of an unused line, or temporary because there are works in progress which require track to be either lifted or obstructed.
Cool. Thanks for the replt
+Geoff Barry The line is actually still in use. It is part of the Stockport-Stalybridge line and has only a single one-way service to Stalybridge on a friday. Although the line is often used by freight avoiding Manchester.
its actually a dead line & that's a stop sign on one of the rails
What loco is this, btw? A '47?
Ian McKinnon a class 185
Our rail network is looking really old.
? class of DMU ? Thanks, Dana Mack
Joanne Mack class 185
I think I’d have aborted this video with the crap weather! Must’ve been filmed a while ago, because I’ve noted three foot crossing that have since gone between Cottingley and Batley.
welcome to train simulator 2020 haha
unreal version coming in february 2017
I wish it was a train simulator, I would never quit driving, err playing it!
Please, what is the name of the large city at 0:24:35?
Leeds.
Arriva doesn't travel from birmingham new st to leeds only cross country
the way the windscreen wipers go, mmmmmm
What was the station at 54 min?
Marsden
Why does the driver keep blowing his horn?
David Sanderson He's happy because he's on a train :)
There are many foot/ level crossing which before approaching them there are 'W' boards which tell the driver to blow the horn for the walkers and cars on the crossings.
+David Sanderson Either because of the 'W' (Whistle) signs on the trackside, or in some instances to warn workmen (gangers) the driver has seen up ahead. They in turn acknowledge the train's presence by raising an arm to signal to the driver as the train passes.
I'm a trainee driver and I found this link very helpful with my understanding of the route . Don't suppose you have a link for the return journey .? Regards.
i want to be a train driver!!
wow
In brazil we don,t have railways. We are poor and politicians robbe all our money. What have to be done?
Probably came from Birmingham New Street.
Superb video Awful weather.
Electrification by 2050?
Do you really know where York is? And do you really know where Manchester is? I think not....
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