Septuagint 📖 The Most Dangerous Book in the World
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- Is the Septuagint the oldest translation of the Bible in the world, or a complete fraud? It's the 3rd century before Christ. In the fabled library of Alexandria, a work has begun which will shake the foundation of the world! On the request of the Greek ruler of Egypt, Ptolemy II, 72 Hebrew scholars are translating the Old Testament into Greek. It is a monumental task which they will complete in a remarkable 72 days. For the next six centuries, the Septuagint (which is Greek for 70) will become the most commonly used Bible in the Middle East. But hold on. Some Jewish scholars think it's a fraud because it clearly points to Jesus Christ as the Messiah. They want this changed. Can they do it? Let's find out!
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I'll have to paraphrase this, but Dr. Chuck Missler used to say something along the lines :"You know the Bible is true b/c the old testament foretells the new, and the new testament proves the old" something like that. he also goes on to say " he really doubts a bunch of jewish scribes who lived hundreds of yrs apart, were able to cook up this grand conspiracy and make the 2 books coincide with one another"
they don't coincide at all. they are very different. so they mention each other? lol that means nothing. all it implies is there was an intended update to the ideological data.
"I assure you, these ancient mystics would have produced a radically different body of work had they in their wildest nightmares imagined that in some future dark age their secret coded scriptures would be seized by half-witted and sadistic European cannibals and interpreted literally, like some grotesque and racist history book."
Lilo Duquette, Chicken Qabala.
nope
nothingburger
The Old is in the New concealed, The New is in the Old revealed
In the New Testament, there are 332 direct references from Matthews (51), Mark (11), Luke (29), John (20), Acts (53), Romans (29), 1&2 Corinthians (23), Galatians (3), Ephesians (8), Philippians (3), Colossians (1), 1&2 Thessalonians (8), 1&2 Timothy (11), Titus (2), Hebrews (23), James (22), 1&2 Peter (9), 1 John (1), and Revelations (22), to the Tobit, Judith, Wisdom, Baruch 1 & 2 Maccabees, within the Septuagint Bible.
Here's an example where the Greek gospels present Jesus as quoting the Septuagint: In Mark 7:6-7, Jesus quotes the LXX of Isaiah 29:13 when he says, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written, ‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.’”
Amen and thank you for that wisdom - it’s so easy to change our clothes or looks or sects or
Books - but it isn’t easy to change our hearts
From lovers of mammon to lovers of the Supreme Person God Aba
Can you please direct me to a complete list of these NT references to the deuterocanonicals?
It seems to me more likely that the Septuagint quotes the new testament.
@@DavidLoveMore It can't because all the books in the Septuagint were written before Jesus was born.
@@carminelombardi9575 How come when Paul summarises a Psalm, the Septuagint has the summary from the Greek rather than a translation of the Hebrew?
YOU MISSED SOME major ISSUES: Jesus quoted from the Septuagint 80% of the time. and the Hebrew scrolls used to translate into the Septuagint were 700 to 1,000 years older than the scrolls used for the Mesuretic texts. The older scrolls were lost, apparently by the later date of the Mesuretic translation.
WRONG....as they did not exist at that time.
you mean the "authors" quoted lxx.
List the quotes that he’s quoting 80% of the time but don’t give me a quote for anything that’s not in the first five books of Moses because that’s all the Septian covers. No bait and switch crap here. He just didn’t quote the agent in any other text. Other than the first five books show me the 80% of the time that he’s quoting it chapter and verse. Otherwise you’re just repeating nonsense that people put out on the Internet.
@@SeanEustace-zk3mc other OT books were gradually translated after the Torah was initially done
Jesus did not quote from the Septuagint in the Traditional text line of which the KJV is, but only in the corrupt Alexandrian text which is obviously a fraud, as is the letter of Aristaius. Extant texts seal this certainty as there are no Alexandrian/Septuagint sourced extant texts they are all of Traditional source text line of which the KJV is sourced from; obviously Septuagint claims are fraudulent.
Well, the Orthodox use the Septuagint because of Apostolic succession. The church was started by the Apostles and they had to use the Septuagint because they were talking to gentiles and they used it to prove that Jesus was the messiah as well as for liturgical text. The Greek book was already in the Synagogues of the diaspora Jews (many of them only spoke Greek anyway). Even if they knew any variation in the Jewish text the authors of the new testament had to use references to the Septuagint and not anything else because the early church knew only that and their followers would be confused by any other terminology.
A lot of hellenized jews in the world at that time.
Jesus used the "70" to preach to the masses, then the apostles. There's no apostolic succession; that's a human fairytale of the Catholics & then the Greeks who fawned after them perpetrated. The bride is the succession of Christ, & the bride is the ekklesia, not some exalted popette. Use your kefali, maragoudakis! Would any apostle be able to call down Christ to a successor to make him an apostle? And what about unbelieving children, or apostles who had no children? Paul was the last apostle appointed & anointed by Jesus Himself. Why would there need to be more, anyway? I was born & raised Greek Eastern Orthodox, so please don't waste time telling me what you believe. Orthos had some doctrines straight, but over time have slipped increasingly into nonsense & Catholicism, even the filthy heresy of universalism. The Bible teaches nothing of such things.
You won't change that abysmally thick-headed sect. Either you do as God commands, Come out & be holy, or be rounded up & chucked into the lake of fire. I wouldn't wish that on anyone, let alone my own. You have a great advantage, too, if you can read the Koine w/understanding of all the nuances & verbal aspects. Xroniasou polla!
The Dead Sea Scrolls adds more credibility to the Septuagint than it typically does to the Masoretic. All sources should be taken into account when translating, and all variants should be noted.
when someone says that dss isaiah 7:14 renders "virgin" (using the word "almah"), they are being intentionally deceptive. lxx gives us "parthenos" which is greek for "virgin" (i think). but the hebrew betulah is specifically "virgin", as the hymen is betullim (think i did that right). my old interlinear bible shows betulah. but dss is almah. and while almah can refer to someone who is a virgin, calling her an almah is not calling her a virgin. only that she is young, and may be a virgin. so dss if translated honestly renders: "behold, the young woman who might be a virgin will give birth..."
but nope. its a virgin!!!
The book of Isaiah in its fullness is found in the dead Sea scrolls. It matches the king James version which is based off of the Muretic text if memory serves me.
@@PrescottJohnson-gfh What you are stating here regarding Isaiah 7v14 (almah) is False - do not mislead people, God's Judgment will follow if you do - check out all contexts in the Old Testament for Hebrew words Almah and Betulah and you will find the opposite to what you said is True - in other words in Isaiah 7v14 God is telling us a 'Virgin' will conceive and bear a Son (God's Only Begotten Son) which the New Testament Confirms.
@@SeanEustace-zk3mc Yes correct - the Masoretic Text - but NOT the corrupt Roman Catholic bible the video is trying to promote - which Luther, Calvin, John Notts and all the Reformers Rejected as corrupt - they instead used the same manuscripts that underlay the King James Bible
@@MrWrath777 Isaiah 7:14 did not originally say virgin. The DSS make this clear. The LXX authors chose a bad translation that allowed for the authors of Matthew and Luke to justify their virgin birth myth.
Only sounds dangerous if you don't want people to know Jesus IS the Christ. Now who would want that🤔🤫
Muslims? JW? mórmons?
Atheists, Hindus, and Muslims are pretty fanatical about Christ and his non-divinity.
My point is that the devil is against Christ, don't be a bigot and defile the name of our Lord.
By all means, call out the antichrist wherever they are found.
Synagogue of satan
Fake argument!
What translation using the mess erratic text tries to imply to Jesus is not the Christ or even God incarnate. That’s what you get out of the king James Bible, which I believe is going off of the Messer text most modern. Most modern Bibles are following the Alexandria test and obscure text that doesn’t have duplicates and is clearly a bad text. Again, where are you getting sept two agent books beyond the first five books of Moses this needs to be explained only had the first five books translated as he was looking for constitutions of countries, not religious texts in their entirety. He wanted to know the law of the Jews, like he knew the law of the Spartans.
The fact that Joseph "sojourned" by way of bringing his family to Egypt from Canaan makes 430 years precise...got it?
They call the Septuagint dangerous, due to it being older than the Masoretic Text.
It's dangerous because of the truth contained therein. The rebel angels, those spoken of by Paul and called by many names throughout the bible, do not want people to know the facts of our history and why things are the way they are.
@@jasonleveck8546well said 💯
@@jasonleveck8546 you're right about it being dangerous because of the truth contained therein - the truth about Jesus's true identity and profession, and yes, why "things" are the way they are (think Catholic Church scandals)... The information there would basically destroy the Church if everyone knew and understood it.
@@lorenfulghum2393 There is so much in Book of Enoch and that ties one end of the bible to the other, together. Genesis itself is chocked full of absolute gems, which we miss. I only have begun to understand various truths in the bible and I give thanks to God Almighty first and then good teachers like Dr. Michael Heiser, whom changed my life.
It followed a different line of texts (Alexandrian). The original scrolls are the basis of texts. Some guy(s) came along and translated it incorrectly. The septuagint is an incorrect translation.
(Hebrew to Greek. Counterfeit bibles come from the Alexandrian sources).
Some other guy(s) then came along and compiled the scrolls into one Masoretic text (still Hebrew). These are correct. From which later translations came from. The NT came through the Byzantine text, also known as the Textus Receptus or the Majority Text.
(These are where good translations come from such as the King James).
The devil messed with the manuscripts and translations. That's why there are so many counterfeit bibles today but there still remains only one true scripture.
Thank you so much for taking the time to produce this video. I find it very helpful and fills many gaps in my understanding. God Bless!!
Thanks, Steve! (Is that your real name??)
Titus was the Chrestus author of All biblical scripture, Amen Ra Sol the creator, Satan owns YT,this guy obviously works for him, Matthew 26 53 proves who's author and Messiah can't be denied can it, scripture been corrupted by the Jimmy Choose, Septuagint LXX 70 the year Titus promised to return to slaughter all House of David Satan, he's back that's why they're making all these Satanic videos discrediting Gods word.
@@diggingupthebiblelol
The Septuagint was translated by 72 Jewish scholars, six from each of the 12 tribes of Israel. They were not Greek scholars but Jewish ones. If there was any error in the translation. do you not think that one of these 72 scholars would have discovered this error and corrected it? If anyone believes the Septuagint is somehow a false version of the Old Testament then they believe they are wiser than these scholars and that is a very arrogant claim to make.
They were not Jewish they were Israelites.
@@exit5620 Israelities were Jewish.
@@georgfriedrichhandel4390 - No, Not all Israelites were or Are Jewish. Israel had 12 Tribes, the Jews came from One of Those Tribes, Judah,. They were not The 12 Jewish Tribes. And Modern Day Samaritains aren't Classified as Jews, Either.
@@georgfriedrichhandel4390 Jew means Judean. Jesus made a distinction between Jews and Israelites because the majority of Jews(Judeans) were not Israelites. Harrod and the leaders in Judea were descendants of Cain thru Esau/Hittites. King Harrod was born in Edom. After the fall of the temple all the Israelites left.
@@georgfriedrichhandel4390If anyone believes the King James Bible is somehow an erroneous translation of the Scriptures then they believe they are wiser than 47 of some of the greatest Biblical scholars that ever lived and that is a very arrogant claim to make.
The fact of the matter is,
JESUS WAS, JESUS IS AND JESUS IS TO COME.
They can't change that.
They changed his race!!
Time to learn war no more Isaiah 2:4
Time to repent and stop sinning too...
Jesus Christ is returning and this is all written in The Holy Scriptures... perhaps the extreme killing is what man needs to listen to God?
God help us please...
Armageddon
Para Sympathetic Nervous System = Love: Joy; Faith; Goodness; Kindness; Mildness; Patience with Self Control not to sin or hurt another for Peace, Twofold Peace via a quiet conscience with God and self for Peace with others via a quiet conscience with God and self for Peace from The Holy Spirit of Peace; The Whole Spirit of Love Anointed namely Jesus Christ who is returning quickly for Healing All Nations and Heaven on Earth as promised for The Promised Land to come... Come...
Sympathetic Nervous System response - Fright, Fight, Flight Syndrome Adrenalin Response of Fear... Stress hormones and fleshly traits... Galatians 5: 16 - 26
Love is not a cortisol stress hormone of fear but a naturally occuring endorphin blood made whole and One in our body which is The Temple for God's Love to dwell for healing All Nations and Heaven on Earth as promised for The Promised Land to come... Come...
Do not 'Positively Die' Genesis 2:17
We are saved by Grace through Faith...
With thanks to God/Love for Faith: ' the assured expectation of the things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities not yet beheld ' Hebrews 11:1
Happy Easter, Happy Christmas via The Holy Spirit of Peace...Pentecost where we at One with Peace and Love, Atonement,
At One ment with Love for Light and enlightenment of Love Anointed namely Jesus Christ, Yeshua Hamashiac in Jewish, Isa in Arabic, Krīstös in Greek... who is returning quickly for Healing All Nations and Heaven on Earth as promised for The Promised Land to come... Come...
Time to end all abuse Time for Heaven on Earth as Love is not a cortisol stress hormone of fear but a naturally occuring endorphin blood made whole and One in our body which is The Temple for God's Love to dwell...
Time to cleanse our minds, body and environment...rivers, seas, soil, homes, towns, planet...
Time for Thy Kingdom Come...Come...
HalleluYah...
Praise Jah.
Revelation 7, 12, 19, 21, 22 and all scripture
Babylon the Great is falling... 🕊💖🕊✨✨✨✨
God bless us all in every language and tongue through God's moral and righteous Love Anointed namely Jesus Christ who is returning quickly... Isa in Arabic, Assalum Aliakum...Yeshua Hamashiac in Jewish... Shalom Alekhem...
Krīstös in Greek...
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@@stardel Cleopatra, the Ptolemys were of Greek descent and looked like Greeks and nothing like the Ethiopians.
The Hebrew language was never completely dead.
The name "Jesus" has existed since the 17th century, and God never revealed this name. Jesus (gee-sus) comes from Iesus (ee-sus, this name is found in the KJV of 1611), and Iesus comes from Iesous (ee-sous). Iesous is a transliteration of the Aramaic name Yeshua. Now consider the testimony of the apostle Peter, "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12). What does this mean? This means that the names of Jesus, Iesus, and Iesous were never revealed by God, but come to us by the tongue of mankind, and therefore, these names, Jesus, Iesus, and Iesous are counterfeit names never revealed by God. Once again, mankind makes void the revelation of God for their traditions.
Then the Pharisees and scribes asked Him, “Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders...?”
He answered and said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:
‘This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’
For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men..." He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition" (Mark 7:5-9).
God revealed the name of salvation, but mankind rejected the revealed name, YAHSHUA, for names not revealed but produced by the tongue of man.
Jews are a white ruddy people (Lamentations 4:7; 1 Samuel 16:12; Song of Solomon 5:10).
Ham is the progenitor of the Dark Race (Zondervan Dictionary, 1967).
Esau married women of the Hittites, who are the descendants of Ham, and therefore, Esau had black kids (Genesis 26:34).
Jews.
@@stardelI doubt that!!!
Thank you for this fantastic content!🙌🏼📖🎉
Thanks, Jason. You're the best!
Thank God, the Orthodox Church has always used the Septuagint for their Old Testament translation! 🙏 ☦️
The Catholic Church includes the Septuagint books as well including the books removed by the Protestants.
Roman orthodox catholic nunes helped create Muhammad islam (the Ishmael falsd narrative) Aka created by the vatican Jesuits... all needs to be shut down and charged for blasphemy towards Yesus.
Originally, the West used the LXX too, until St. Jerome opted for the Hebrew & Aramaic text for his "Vulgate" translation. St. Augustine of Hippo protested but could not persuade Jerome otherwise after the two exchanged a serious of letters about this question.
@@michaels4255 However, the Catholic Old Testament canon includes the books from the Septuagint which are not included in the Hebrew canon.
@@michaels4255 Eventually, Jerome accepts the Septuagint.
Isaiah 9:6 (Masoretic): For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Isaiah 9:6 (LXX): For a child is born to us, and a son is given to us, whose government is upon his shoulder: and his name is called the Messenger of great counsel: for I will bring peace upon the princes, and health to him.
Surely the Masoretic conspirators should have been wise enough to agree with the Septuagint on this one?
You said that Matthew quoted the septuagint for Isaiah 7:14, but this is contradictory with your introduction when you say that the spetuagint is a greek translation of the jewish Torah. Isaiah is not part of the Torah.
While yes, the Torah is generally for the first 5 books, there are in some instances, though probably incorrectly, where it refers to the whole of the Old Testament.
I have an LXX and read it as well as the MT. How often do read the LXX???
How does gematria obtain its miraculous cohesion in the Masoretic text if it is a corrupt version? What is the score with gematria and the LXX?
Sorry, I don't know enough about gematria to answer that one.
Who cares about Gematria anyway? How does it lead to any conclusions of truth? This seems like an arbitrary qualification.
@@DigenisAkritas116 Book of Revelation: Gematria is how 666 was associated with the devil.
Gematria is gnostic kabbalah nonsense lol it has no bearing on the Word of God.
Because Emmanuel was a title, Jesus is his name. This is the Hebrew word for Joshua. When Moses calls him I am or Yahweh that is the name God gave to them because he didn’t want to tell them his secret name but he hit it in the text anyway when Joshua Meets the angel of the Lord, which is Jesus Christ himself. We see that Joshua, the son of nun(none= Think Melky Sedeck without beginning our end mother or father) Hear the typology gets thick. Moses cannot enter the land of promise because he struck the rocket Mara twice that’s for one offense. He is unable to enter the promised land. But the people have brought into the promised land by Joshua, which is to say Jesus. By the law shall flesh be justified. Moses represents the law.
But by Joshua or Yeshua people enter the land with him. Because Christ paid for their sins that he said on the cross, it has finished because there is nothing you can add to his salvation if you do damned and you’re not covered from your sins. You try to take the work of your hands, fig leaves or cotton, and cover yourself instead of covering yourself with the lambkins that God provided for Adam and Eve. Which required a sacrifice of a lamb. That’s we are told not to mix our works with the finished work of God that we do not wear a garment or a covering that is made of wool and cotton Wall again representing a lamb will cotton is the work of your hands. You have to grow it out of the ground. Remember Kane and Able Kane tries to sacrifice the work of his hands out of the ground, but Able a lamb. It’s all metaphor so you understand the truth of God you’re saved by faith alone, not of works less any mentioned boast
The original Septuagent was lost when burned down in the library of Alexandria. A corrupted version survived in Greece.
Im interested to learn more. Please share links etc. Many thanks
Me too.
There were copies in every Hebrew temple throughout the Mediterranean.
@@diggingupthebiblethe original Septuagint was only the first 5 Books of Moses.
And you believe that narrative???? WHY?????
have you not figured out that ALL of our history is false and our current timeline as well????
The Vatican has miles of underground catacombs and miles of hidden books that we will never know of....
Binge watch a few "My Lunch Break" videos and see how the narrative unravels...
This is why the Orthodox Church bases its understanding of Holy Scripture on the Septuagint.
As does the Roman rite.
@@user-pl3el3vr4q No. Jerome used the then current Torah for his Vulgate version. It had already been corrupted and parts were missing - the Seleucids - Hanukkah story - did much more harm than defiling the Temple. Jerome used the Septuagint only where the Hebrew made no sense or was missing. Jerome was warned NOT to use the Hebrew Scriptures. He was brilliant but misguided/ignorant.
Too bad the orthodox church rejects the teaching of the Bible and puts tradition ABOVE Scripture, just like ALL "Catholic churches".
@@ownpetard8379 Sorry, you have been mislead: It is well known that St. Jerome used the earliest copies of the Septuagint to complete the original Latin Vulgate translation.
*[Christian History originally published this article in Christian History Issue #28 in 1990]*
_[(...) At first Jerome worked from the Greek Old Testament, the Septuagint. But then he established a precedent for all good translators: the Old Testament would have to be translated from the original Hebrew. In his quest for accuracy, Jerome consulted Jewish rabbis.
In translating the Old Testament, something struck Jerome: the books the Jews regarded as Holy Scripture did not include the books we know as the Apocryphal. These books had been included in the Septuagint, the basis of most older translations, and Jerome was compelled by the church to include them. But he made it clear that in his opinion the Apocryphal books were only liber ecclesiastici (church books to be read for edification), as opposed to the fully inspired liber canonici (canonical books to establish doctrine). Over one thousand years later, the leaders of the Reformation would follow Jerome’s lead and not include the Apocrypha in the Protestant Bibles (...)]_
You mean the Greek orthodox church ....go figure!
Well done sir 👍🏻 keep it up!
I've heard this--that the 72 translations were identical, thus demonstrating that the translation was divinely guided. However, scholars comparing the Septuagint with the Hebrew and Aramaic originals have found errors in the translation. Did every translator also make identical errors? Curious indeed!
What originals?
It's not curious at all, because that story about the 72 scholars is just a legend with no basis in fact.
There aren't 72 translations, it is one translation made by 72 translators.
The errors were on purpose because it was a rewrite. The errors were identical because the scholars all agreed on what the bible would say going forward.
The errors we have found adds time to our timeline. We're not far past the millennium reign.
The tradition of the septuigent, only accounts for the books of the Torah. Not the prophets. Not the writings. Any greek translation of the books of the prophets or the writings were not part of the referenced septuigent tradition professed here. Did scribes eventully make greek copies of the writings and the prophets. Yes, but they were done so seperately, and no copies exist today to confirm. Many of the fragments of greek portions from the Tanakh may in fact be scribal errors that were discarded for the error. As scribes can not destroy any document containing the name of Hashem on them, we, finding fragments 2000 years later can not confirm or deny that these fragments and their "errors" may infact have been known as errors. Not all, but some. Not making a black and white stance. Just informing the less informed who are interested in this topic.
Here is some food for thought. For those who think older is better. The oldest fragments are from the 1st century bce. The term septuigent refers to any and all copies and fragments we have, from different sources, of any part of the bible written in greek. The septuigent mentioned as being referenced for the writing of whatever translation your reading used different sources by different authors who produced a translated commentary. No language directly translates into another. Translators have biases. If your not reading it in hebrew, your readibg a translators biases into the translation.
Summarize. The septuigent is not a book of the greek hebrew bible. The tradition was the Torah was translated, not the whole Tanakh. Later scribes did translate other books into greek. Some of these had errors and were disposed of but not destroyed, meaning many of what we have today may be the erroneous copies deemed unworthy. The copies we have today are multiple, differing in some places. Any and all attempts to copy the hebrew bible into greek is called septuigent, even the bad copies.
G-d loves us all, we have no excuse in this day and age not to seek His truth and grow in our knowledge and understanding. So anyone reading this, make G-d a priority, do some research and learn and challenge what you learn from multiple sources.
It can’t be dangerous if it no longer exists. The narrator originally admits the Septuagint was only the Torah, later relies on it for Isaiah text. It’s magic like cups and balls; where’s the ball now?
The Torah was translated in the 3rd century BC, and the rest of the Old Testament in the 2nd century BC.
The dead sea scrolls are older and don't line up with the genealogy of the Adam in the septuagint.
How do you resolve that?
Source please
@@thedude9024
dssenglishbible.com/genesis%205.htm
The genealogies of Genesis are not found in any of the dead sea scrolls, so they don't resolve the question. But the Septuagint mostly agrees with the Samaritan Pentateuch, which affirms that a longer Hebrew chronology existed prior to the Masoretes.
@@yooperish6985
13 Kenan lived after he became the father of Mahalalel eight hundred forty years, and became the father of other sons and daughters.
~Genesis 5:13
That's found in the Dead Sea scroll. I posted a link to it, but guess, who deleted it.
@@theprogrammer8200 My reply seems to have disappeared. Apologies if this now shows up twice. I believe that in your source, if it's the one I found, everything in that verse is in italics except for the name Kenan, the rest supplied for readability by using the WEB translation. My sources say, "Unfortunately, the only DSS fragment directly recording the genealogies of Gen. 5 or 11 is a tiny piece from a Late Herodian or post-Herodian manuscript. 4QGenb has one word from Genesis 5:13 or 14, the name of Cainan (qynn).
Omg cant belive this only has 350 views, this is a graet video and chanel
Actually, 350 is pretty good for me.
It's typically lying Christian propaganda. The Septugint has been altered by centuries of Christian forgers twisting the original Hebrew often into the exact opposite of the original Hebrew to prophecy Iesous.
It has now reached 22k 😅
It's the antisemitism holding it down
Now more than 100k ❤
In the preface to his 1844 translation of the Septuagint, Lancelot Charles Lee Brenton acknowledges that the Jews of Alexandria were likely to have been the writers of the Septuagint, but dismisses Aristeas' account as a pious fiction. Instead, he asserts that the real origin of the name "Septuagint" pertains to the fact that the earliest version was forwarded by the authors to the Jewish Sanhedrin at Alexandria for editing and approval.
I believe that
Thanks. That's really interesting.
How did He Know This?
he was wrong any way
This seems to clear up the issue of how there could not have been 6 from every tribe when the Northern tribes were lost in assimilation due to exile by the Assyrians when the Septuigant put together.
You did not mention the Syriac Sinaticus, which is estimated to be from around 375 CE.
absolutely one of the most interesting and informative videos I have ever seen. I do believe in the timelines, AD appears where BC is meant. does not detract from the fascinating information.
Thanks! That means a lot. (And yes, I messed up AD.)
The pyramids were in water at one point huh
Absolutely yes, indeed .
Some people have thought that, but it seems more likely (based on the lack of erosion) that they were constructed after the great flood.
@@diggingupthebible No shit Sherlock.
Such a bizarre conclusion to this video
It's funny how each source has a different story about the translation
Great video. The content is something that every Christian leader, or teacher, should be aware of.
One slight correction: Septua + ginta (70 or LXX) is Latin; not Greek.
Thanks!
There are two problems with the criticism of the Masoretic Text presented at the end of this video: 1) The Great Isaiah Scroll discovered among the Dead Sea Scrolls is as old as the original translation of the Septuagint and is nearly identical to the Masoretic (proving the Masoretic Text already existed in some form alongside the Septuagint), and 2) the Masoretes were hyper-OCD about copying the EXACT text they were looking at to the extent that they even included known scribal errors and other aberrant features found in the scrolls they were copying from! Therefore It’s HIGHLY unlikely that the discrepancies between the Masoretic and Septuagint were intentional. Now, I agree that the Septuagint is worthy to be analyzed alongside the Masoretic since Christ and the Apostles quoted it so frequently, but that doesn’t mean the Hebrew text is worthless!
But not Isaiah 7:14 which is in the video. For that verse dead sea scroll and LXX agree, Masoretic does not.
@@vincentcoppola9832 I know. Doesn't mean the Masoretic is completely illegitimate though.
@@allenfrisch No, I don't think so. But neither is the LXX.
@@vincentcoppola9832 100% agree! I believe God preserved BOTH on purpose. I like the idea of using the Hebrew Masoretic as our primary text, but going with the DSS and LXX when supported by the New Testament. I think the NKJV at least notes all the important passages where they differ.
@@allenfrisch I like NKJV myself.
Pope Damasus gave to Jerome the order to translate the septuaginte to latin. Jerome used the knowledge of Rabbies and hebrew manuscripts to understand better the greek text of the septuagint. Even though the vulgata did use some hebraic sources it is not based on the masoretic text. Jerome did also examine the question of Betulah and Almah and came also to the conclusion that the word almah that is now used in the masoretic text renders the best the word of virgin. In fact to say a women was young was the oriental way to say that she was virgin. Also in the indogermanic languages this is the case. In german a virgin is a "Jung-Frau". A Betulah may have been married. She only has no man now. A widow is a Betulah but no virgin. Even the masoretic text adds the precision Almah to Betulah when it comes to affirm the virginity IMHO.
I value your opinion very much. Jerome aside, Jewish scholars (and Wikipedia) continue to argue that Almah does not imply virginity, which is the central issue for the miraculous birth of Christ.
@@diggingupthebibleI can’t imagine why Jewish scholars and their unofficial journal, Wikipedia, would insist on disproving Jesus’ miraculous birth? 🤷♂️😂
@@diggingupthebible Jerome actually mentioned he was aware of Rabbinic statements about this in his time--as well as before the time of Christ, and that not only were Hebrew users aware it signified "Virgin", but the sages said so: likewise Rashi refers to this.
Christians didn't arise ex nihilo from Pagans misreading Jewish texts. Jewish figures are really in a fight with their own ancient forbears' own understandings, and departures that came later for reasons of remaining distinct.
Jerome did not Translate The Septuagint, He Translated The Hebrew. But it was Not the Masoretic Text as That did Not Exist Until The 6th-10th Century AD.
Alexander the Great, Plato, Jesus all virgin born. Must have been something in the water
My pastor is teaching us from both holy bible and Septuagint, thank you Lord for sending him into my life
Amen!
My advice: run!
Very interesting and informative.
I am awed by not only this presentation, but by the comments below. I feel 'cheated' by religion for presenting only the Bible as the one document. Some of the discussion below, has opened my eyes of 65 years, to the historical records that have been used to explain the validity of the Torah and the Bible, for example. A number of years ago, I began looking (a 'heretical' examination) at the Apocrypha and the unused Gospels. Later, my curiosity reached to those Nag Hamadi finds. These are all in the New Testament period.
But now to learn about the Septuagint and the earlier Jewish texts, has revised new interest.
It was always my understanding that the writing of a Torah, was overseen by rabbinical scholars, to insure that the text was copied exactly as it had been for thousands of years and that there were no mistakes. Now, I wonder if monks weren't the only scribes who may have tweaked the original text.
What are you talking about. It's taught that it's a collection of books. What kinda Church was it ?
Septuagint has 1500years between Adam and Abraham. All the corrupted versions tampered by the Devil has those 1500years removed so it can hide the true timeline and make you lot still wait for the 2nd coming. 6000years from Adam to 70AD. After 70AD was the final 1000years aka Millennial Kingdom. Then comes the period of complete deception which we are currently living in
The vital new people would try to add books that’s why if you take the book of Isaiah, which is 66 chapters you can find traces in each chapter that talk about each of the 66 books and letters. A hidden index. Also trans late the genealogy as follows…
Adam-Seth- ect into Hebrew without the begets and you get hidden sentences which are very Christian.
@@SeanEustace-zk3mc omg. Gtfu otta here this the 600 year after edits.
in 1650 Sy Francis DeSales converted 72,000 Calvanist by defending the Septuigate as canonic scripture because it is the Catholic old testament. he said that the Jews who rejected the 7 books in 90 AD at Jomnia had no standing since Jesus gave the keys to Peter.
Very well put together. You hit the historical points on the head. It's a dangerous book today as well. Most professing Christians won't read it, or see it's value. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for this excellent and vitally important historical view.
Thanks. I'm glad you liked it.
I’ve not heard Septuagint pronounced with a hard g, instead more like a j sound. Please inform as to where you got the hard g pronunciation. Thank you.
Yes your 3 syllable pronunciation is very odd. It really detracts from your work.
The g comes from the Greek letter gamma (γ) which represents a "hard g" sound. Those who pronounce it like a "j" simply don't know better, or are used to hearing it that way.
Gymnasium is originally pronounced with hard G as in Good
@@andyb2977 thank you
@@coolcoreancat thank you
There are some issues here, the original Septuagint manuscripts are long lost. And when it eas first translated it was only the Torah, all the other books came later so that contradicts that Justin Martyr quote. In reality we don't know what the original manuscripts said because they don't exist anymore.
Except for the part where the quotes from the new testament to the old follow the Septuagint and not the Hebrew.
So they existed in Justin martyrs time.
The original Septuagint manuscripts are not long lost. The earliest fragments date within a century or two of the originals. That's better historical evidence than almost all other ancient manuscripts from that time period.
@@eddardgreybeard If your referring to the Prophets and writings, I said those were translated to Greek at a later time and not by the 70 translators.
@@diggingupthebible I was referring to complete manuscripts, fragments are also of value. But where they are incomplete it's hard to say if any editing had taken place, or if you're reading it in the same context as our Bibles today.
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"Later" meaning much earlier than you were willing to concede, because we're taking about quotes from Isaiah that Matthew and even Christ himself made that line up better with the Greek than they do with the Hebrew.
So they were in very good circulation by the first century.
Jesus read from the Septuagint every Word out of his mouth was that of the Father, you do the math.
that's what your told... you don't really know. also its pretty convenient that NONE of the original writings exist.
Why are you adding the ages of Moses, his father and grandfather to make one long timeline, when they would have overlapped? Moses wasn't born for example, when his father's life ended. So why add their years together? Nonsense.
Yes you are right😊
The story of the translation is believed to be a fable.
It's possible, but there is a good historical record of it which is more than we can say for most fables.
The age of the pyramids should be no one’s barometer
At 1:08 you list "the rest of the old testament" including 3 volumes of Maccabees - chronicles of events that took place in 168-164 BC. When you see the so-called "star of David" (10:04) you are seeing the "star of Remphan" of Acts 7:43.
i don't think so. check douglas hamp's article on this subject in his website.
Revelation 2:28 KJV
And I will give him the MORNING STAR
Revelation 2:28, NLT: "They will have the same authority I received from my Father, and I will also give them the Morning Star!"
Revelation 2:28, CSB: "just as I have received the same from my Father. I will also give him the Morning Star
The breath the wind
🌬 💨 of the Spirit of God that moved upon the face of the deep..
Sheol
NKJV . Proverbs 8:27
I was there when He established the heavens, when
“He inscribed a circle on the face of the deep,”
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Brenton Septuagint Translation
Proverbs 8:27
When he prepared the heaven, I was present with him and when he prepared his throne upon the winds
King James Bible
Revelation 3:21
To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me (in) my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father (in) his throne
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King James Bible
Isaiah 40:22
It is he that sitteth upon the ( Circle ) of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
Good News Translation
Isaiah 40:22
It was made by the one who sits on his THRONE above the earth and
( beyond the sky;)
the people below look as tiny as ants. He stretched out the sky like a curtain, like a tent in which to live.
KJV Revelation7:17
(For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne )
shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
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And those not written in the book 📖 of life, lost to death and sin
😔😞😟😕🙁☹️😣😖🥺😢😭😬😧😮🤧🥵😨😱😰😳
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KJV Revelation 14:10
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be
(tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in
🗣The Presence Of The Lamb)
Revelation 22:16
“I , Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and Stem of David,
“The Bright Morning Star."
11 (I am coming soon). Hold fast to what you have, so that no one will take your
( Crown )
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The Bride Has Her Good Clothes On, for when :the Lord comes like a thief in the night, and: the Morning Star rises in the Heart ♥️
2 Peter 1:19
New King James Version
And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the Morning Star rises in your hearts;
1 Thessalonians 5 :2:: NIV.
for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.
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Jeremiah 30:24
24 The Lord shall not turn away the ire of (his) indignation, till he do, and
((ful]fill the thought of his heart;))❤️
in the last days ye shall understand those things
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Six lines
Six triangles surrounding
A Hexigone(hex=cursed)
Not to be confused with Ezra 2:13 which is the name that accompanies the number 666 and is the answer to the riddle given in the book of revelation?
Steve Kerp, You are wrong, but let's change the subject to some comments on this video: Cleopatra, the Ptolemys were of Greek descent and looked like Greeks and nothing like the Ethiopians.
The Hebrew language was never completely dead.
The name "Jesus" has existed since the 17th century, and God never revealed this name. Jesus (gee-sus) comes from Iesus (ee-sus, this name is found in the KJV of 1611), and Iesus comes from Iesous (ee-sous). Iesous is a transliteration of the Aramaic name Yeshua. Now consider the testimony of the apostle Peter, "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12). What does this mean? This means that the names of Jesus, Iesus, and Iesous were never revealed by God, but come to us by the tongue of mankind, and therefore, these names, Jesus, Iesus, and Iesous are counterfeit names never revealed by God. Once again, mankind makes void the revelation of God for their traditions.
Then the Pharisees and scribes asked Him, “Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders...?”
He answered and said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:
‘This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’
For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men..." He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition" (Mark 7:5-9).
God revealed the name of salvation, but mankind rejected the revealed name, YAHSHUA, for names not revealed but produced by the tongue of man.
Jews are a white ruddy people (Lamentations 4:7; 1 Samuel 16:12; Song of Solomon 5:10).
Ham is the progenitor of the Dark Race (Zondervan Dictionary, 1967).
Esau married women of the Hittites, who are the descendants of Ham, and therefore, Esau had black kids (Genesis 26:34).
@4:10 FYI: Your Masoretic & Septuagint timeline graphics are completely backwards. The correct chronological order is from earlier to later dates, so it should be:
• 2344 BC ------ 4000 AD - Masoretic
• 2994 BC ------ 5650 AD - Septuagint
BC should be first, as it is earlier in history, followed by AD, which is much later.
Yup. I did screw up the AD.
The video mentions codex Vaticanus and the older complete copies as well as the Dead Sea Scrolls but does not reference the oldest copies (or fragments) of the Septuagint. Including this would strengthen the video imho.
yeah but Shem had a father and a mother
but Melchizedek had neither
so shem is totally faulty as the non believing jews would take it
of course melchizedek had a mother and father. and this was not his name, its his title: "melek-tzadik". genesis genealogy demonstrates that shem, being "pre-flood" lived into the times of abram, isaac and jacob, as a consequence was very old at the time, perhaps leading to an oral tradition down through the years. i've read somewhere that some suggest he may have lived to the time of solomon. but shem is the most likely "origin" of melchizedek.
@@PrescottJohnson-gfh no Hebrews 7:3 clearly refers to Melchizedek as Divine having no father or mother and without beginning of days nor end of life sorry to burst your bubble
@@biblicaltheologyexegesisan9024 yes... that was an understandable statement... he was... let me check my genealogy chart here...yeah... he was at least 500 years old when he met with abraham. he would have been 4-5x older than your average elderly man at the time. wikipedia has an interesting entry for melchi, everything thing from being born of a virgin, being born after his mother died, fully clothed... and more... probably the most bizarre of all biblical characters, in terms of what people have come to think of him at various times. and no... 3 virgin births is just to much... let alone 1.
@@PrescottJohnson-gfh that is rubbish the Bible does not mention any of those things to Melchizedek in the OT. All you are is a scripture twister. that makes you very dangerous. please repent before you destroy your life.
Melchizedek refers to and is Christ at that time, the very name tell you this.
Just for clarity in Genesis its talking about Abraham to Moses so if you add in the time from Abraham settling in Canaan into the 430 years it fits perfectly
The verse is Exodus 12:40 "Now the sojourning of the children of Israel, who dwelt (in the land of Canaan and) in Egypt was four hundred and thirty years." So it could only refer to Jacob (Israel) and his children, not Abraham or Isaac.
@@diggingupthebible how come you still haven't figured out the timeline deception? Septuagint is the legit old testament. Adam to Abraham timeline will have 1500yeas added in the Septuagint. All the other corrupted versions systematically removed these 1500years so people can be deceived with a deceptive timeline.
If you have time, just go and genealogy years. A new world of possibilities will open up
@@diggingupthebible The covenant was given to Abraham. So hence that's when the time frame began.
From the promise to the deliverance is 430 years.
@@RisenShine-zy7dn you are correct.
Is it not true that there was no such thing as "the" Septuagint available to the New Testament writers? There were several different versions of it by that stage
IN THE TIME OF SAINT JEROME DID NOT THOSE JEWISH MANUSCRIPTS EXIST & IN DOING THE TRANSLATION WORK IN THE HOLY LAND WOULD HE MOST LIKLY HAVE ACCESS TO SUCH WORKS?
Keep in mind that when it is said that bible translations use the Septuagint (the original one dating to Alexandrea in 200bc) as its source, it can only use the first 5 books of Moses and that's it. . what people commonly refer to as "septuagint" which includes the whole Old Testament is NOT technically the original septuagint but a much later invention and fabrication, with many different variations (just like todays bible as many translations: king james, NIV, English standard etc.. so to the later fabricated "septuagint" has all sorts of variations .. and only the original Torah translation is the official septuagint that is not a fabrication)
The oldest fragments of the Septuagint Torah date to 2nd century BC (Rahlfs nos. 801, 819, and 957) within a century or two of the original copies. The other books could not have been translated much later because we have fragments of them from at least 50 BC. The historical evidence for the Septuagint isn't just good; it's almost unparalleled in antiquity.
I disagree with that hypothesis. The Septuagint was known as the Septuagint fairly soon after it's emergence, Septuagint means 70. And the legend of the 72 scribes was already circulating in the time of Philo and Josephus. I believe one or the other makes mention of it by that term.
Malachi, Psalm, Isaiah are quoted by the disciples and Jesus.
septuagint does at its most technical refer to those 5 books but generally the rest of the canon in koine greek is called that as well because they were all together
Man some of these comments are worrying.
More like aware of bullshit
Another breakthrough masterpiece novel “Where Do We Go Now, LORD? - Burke.” Explains much. Very much.
Are you self-advertising? Cleopatra, the Ptolemys were of Greek descent and looked like Greeks and nothing like the Ethiopians.
The Hebrew language was never completely dead.
The name "Jesus" has existed since the 17th century, and God never revealed this name. Jesus (gee-sus) comes from Iesus (ee-sus, this name is found in the KJV of 1611), and Iesus comes from Iesous (ee-sous). Iesous is a transliteration of the Aramaic name Yeshua. Now consider the testimony of the apostle Peter, "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12). What does this mean? This means that the names of Jesus, Iesus, and Iesous were never revealed by God, but come to us by the tongue of mankind, and therefore, these names, Jesus, Iesus, and Iesous are counterfeit names never revealed by God. Once again, mankind makes void the revelation of God for their traditions.
Then the Pharisees and scribes asked Him, “Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders...?”
He answered and said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:
‘This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’
For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men..." He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition" (Mark 7:5-9).
God revealed the name of salvation, but mankind rejected the revealed name, YAHSHUA, for names not revealed but produced by the tongue of man.
Jews are a white ruddy people (Lamentations 4:7; 1 Samuel 16:12; Song of Solomon 5:10).
Ham is the progenitor of the Dark Race (Zondervan Dictionary, 1967).
Esau married women of the Hittites, who are the descendants of Ham, and therefore, Esau had black kids (Genesis 26:34).
VERY WELL PRESENTED, EXCELLENT JOB!
Thanks!
I’ve never heard Septuagint pronounced that way. I imagine if you never heard it pronounced out loud but had to work out a pronunciation in your head this is a good enough guess however peculiar.
I trusted Google, but I guess I shouldn't have.
He pronounces Septuagint but I pronounce it as Septuagint
@@deeveevideossame here 🤷🏽
wmarkfish, Yours is kind of a hollow argument on your part. Here is something else to consider: Cleopatra, the Ptolemys were of Greek descent and looked like Greeks and nothing like the Ethiopians.
The Hebrew language was never completely dead.
The name "Jesus" has existed since the 17th century, and God never revealed this name. Jesus (gee-sus) comes from Iesus (ee-sus, this name is found in the KJV of 1611), and Iesus comes from Iesous (ee-sous). Iesous is a transliteration of the Aramaic name Yeshua. Now consider the testimony of the apostle Peter, "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12). What does this mean? This means that the names of Jesus, Iesus, and Iesous were never revealed by God, but come to us by the tongue of mankind, and therefore, these names, Jesus, Iesus, and Iesous are counterfeit names never revealed by God. Once again, mankind makes void the revelation of God for their traditions.
Then the Pharisees and scribes asked Him, “Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders...?”
He answered and said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:
‘This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’
For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men..." He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition" (Mark 7:5-9).
God revealed the name of salvation, but mankind rejected the revealed name, YAHSHUA, for names not revealed but produced by the tongue of man.
Jews are a white ruddy people (Lamentations 4:7; 1 Samuel 16:12; Song of Solomon 5:10).
Ham is the progenitor of the Dark Race (Zondervan Dictionary, 1967).
Esau married women of the Hittites, who are the descendants of Ham, and therefore, Esau had black kids (Genesis 26:34).
Agreed. It is SEP-TUA-JINT. In Latin, the word is Septuaginta.
The best old testament*
Doesn’t the Septuagint use the Tetragrammaton and the Messoretic does not?
Funny . My NTKJ version claims the Leningrad codex is from 1917. Which does seem pretty damn accurate
According to its colophon, it was made in Cairo in AD 1008 (or possibly 1009).[1] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leningrad_Codex
The 1917 might refer to the change of name of the library where it was housed after the Russian Revolution.
"National Library of Russia in Saint Petersburg since 1863 (before 1917 named Imperial Public Library)."
The account given at the begining, where Aristeas writes to Philocrati that the Judean governor sent seventy two Jewish rabbis, 6 from each tribe, doesn't square with the history of what happened to the Israelites: among the identifiable tribes at that time, as far as I understand, there were only Judah, Levi, and Benjamin. The northern tribes were exiled by the Assyrians, and though there were northern refugees to the south, so they weren't wiped out, they were assimilated and didn't maintain their tribal affiliations as far as I am aware.
😂😂 I never even thought of that!
And the “tribes “ seems never to be a tribe. It appeared a local people forced into an ideology to that wanted to create a nation. There wasn’t any “tribes”.
The gaslighting in the text tries to do the same to you today: turn you into a sheep.
You are not a sheep!
Theories, just theories. Modern theories made by people who don't know, just try to force their modern understanding onto ancient people.
@@magistradox39 No, he has a point. Listen I’m a Christian but I know from studying the Prophets and the Writings that the 10 tribes were sent into exile by the Assyrian captivity around the 8th century BCE. They became utterly untraceable and absorbed into the surrounding regions of their migrations for the most part. The narrative thus doesn’t make sense to say that 6 from each tribe were taken to write and compile the Greek Septuagint. It most likely was an exaggerated story to enforce credibility and authority of the text given the period and circumstances of the Jewish nation at the time. It has nothing to do with whether the Greek Septuagint was divinely inspired or not. I just found it funny because it is such a simple fact and was right in front of our faces in regard to what the OP pointed out. Often that happens a lot because we are human
The northern tribes being the line of David right? Those were the ones that were assimilated into Babylonian culture. So there really wasn't much lineage left of the northern tribes that wasn't either in Babylon or Egypt,
Wait, How can There be 6 Jewish Rabbis from Each Tribe when Judah was Only One Tribe? Israel has 12 Tribes, They were not The 12 Tribes of The Jews. Jews come from The Tribe of Judeah.
As it turns out we have been given so much misinformation and disinformation about our past that it will take forever to try to figure it out. This is just one more disinformation they want us to believe
And weren't 10 tribes already "lost" to history by that time?
I don’t think the 10 tribes were as “lost” as they want us to think. Diaspora isn’t the same as lost.
The Bible affirms that Many from the 10 tribes in the northern kingdom of Israel, migrated south to Judah because of Israel’s ungodliness, prior to the destruction of Judah in 586 BC. So a remnant from all the tribes survived in Judah and some were exiled to Babylon, etc..
@@sombra6153 As they want us to think? You think they are hiding the fact that they know who the ten tribes are or that they secretly meet and hide it from the world?
How is it possible to have 6 scribes from 12 tribes when 10 tribes already long disappear?
It should be 18 scribes. But at the time tribe of Benjamin was already incorporated completely into the tribe of Juda.
Now we down to 12 scribes
Good point. But it does appear that the tribes of Israel still maintained a record of their lineages at the time of Christ which was centuries later.
@@diggingupthebibleappear where?
I am a Jew myself but our propaganda is amazing
10 tribes of Israel that contain most of the land of Canaan got a very different view on everything
Including scriptures Temple Capital etc
CORRECTION: Min 9:20 " _they pierced my hands and my feet_ " is Psalm *22* :16, not 21:16. Easy mistake, but thought I'd mention it.
God Bless!
~mike
Thank you.
Thanks for the encouragement! It really helps.
This is the book that Martin Luther banned when he got rid of 7 books of the Bible for Protestants. The Catholic and Orthodox Bible still maintain all the books of the Bible
He never banned those books, he said they were good for reading but not to be used for dogma or theology. Those books all appear in his translation of the Bible in German, and is still printed in modern times in Luther's translation.
Mein Kampf quotes Martin Luther and new testament. Vile evil antisemite as was all church fathers before Luther.
Mein Kampf quotes Martin Luther and new testament. Vile evil antisemite as was all church fathers before Luther.
"The Catholic and Orthodox Bible still maintain all the books of the Bible"
They do not include the book of Judith because its about a woman who beheaded a king and they didn't want to give women any ideas.
@@havable We Orthodox and Catholic Christians do have Judith in our Bibles. You can double check this easily by looking up the Catholic versions of the Bible online.
In Maccabees it says the Greeks used to paint art overtop the scripture scrolls so another reason why there isn't as many sept manuscripts
Would it hurt to not use an AI speaker?
Bro please pronounce things
Yeah, I'm not Greek.
Since we have found the dead sea scrolls we know that the Septuagint is not a reliable. And only the first five books of the Hebrew Scriptures were translated in the Septuagint between 300 to 100 bce.
Thanks for the comment.
This is a mistake. While 60% of the texts in the Dead Sea Scrolls are of the Masoretic family, 30% are from the Septuagint family, 10% from the Samaritan family and 10% don’t fit comfortably in any of these three families. The notion that the Jewish scribes altered the Bible to discredit Jesus is bunk because the Septuagint is used by one of the very strictest Jewish communities, the Ethiopian Jews.
@BigJFindAWay 110% of the scrolls? And changed to discredit jesus? Maybe not, reinterpretation is the more common tool. 2nd temple judaism is not rabbinical judaism. The hebrew text was changed, though, either on purpose or by error, it's up to you to decide if the changes change meaning.
The DSS are fake, created by rabbis…
@@BigJFindAWay obviously nobody is accusing Ethiopian jews of having that agenda lol how does that even follow? If anything it just suggests that when that community began they considered the septuagint to be valid jewish texts.
Thank you. Should have more thumbs up!
At 4:29 your graphic shows Adam created in 5650 AD. It should show 5650 BC.
Oh... Thanks. Too late now.
Septuagint has some very bad Greek! If all the translators were Hebrew reading priests then that might explain the problem!
Thanks for the info.
Josephus, Ptolemy didn't have a problem with it.
@@exit5620Jesus and His disciples quoted it too.
@@vincentcoppola9832 Their was no evidence he quoted from it. He is God and he knows what he said through the prophets of old. He is the word of God.
@@wendigos_eat_people7177 Of course. But the words He said are the same as LXX not Masoretic. I suppose you can argue that LXX did not exist at that time but I am not convinced of that. More likely, since Greek was the common language at that time and Jews were spread over a large area and we know they spoke and used Greek more than Hebrew, is that the LXX was the scripture used and quoted in the NT.
Unfortunately, it's pronounced Septua-djent, because the word is from Latin.
Thanks.
Then spell it that way. Simple as, simple as.
Septua-djent would be a good name for a meshuggah album.
Like the WORD "LUCIFER" ....a LATIN WORD and is NOT IN THE ORIGINAL HEBREW WRITING.
It's *A.D.* 380-405. A.D. is always placed before the date: (In the) year (of the) Lord 380-405.
Good video!
The Septuagint is the original that was then translated. There never was a complete Hebrew original text. Hebrew was a dead language before the 2nd Century B.C. People in Judea spoke Greek. That's why the original New Testament was written in Greek.
Wrong
Clickbait title, but very accurate and informative video.
Thank you for the explanation.
The issue of the Septuagint differing from the Masoretic has two important subtexts:
1. The danger of ascribing too much importance to the literalness of the Bible instead of the God who it describes and His salvation for us.
2. The deceitfulness of the jews who rejected Jesus as their Messiah. After Jesus and the destruction of the temple in 70AD, they were faced with the literal extinction of Judaism. In response, they corrupted their own Holy Scriptures and also wrote alternate versions of the NT books in order to discredit Christianity.
There is absolutely no way that you could know this or prove
Stop slandering the chosen people this
All His purpose, plan and in the end His GLORY. God is never caught by surprise. This is why He had to give us discernment through His Holy Spirit.
Septuagint ( Sep-2-a-jent ).
I almost didn't watch this because of the title because I don't appreciate people bashing the Holy Scriptures, but I'm glad I did watch. I rely on the Greek Septuagaint OT sometimes, like pointing out how they used the word "Kyrios" as the name "YHWH" because the jews substituted Gods name with "Adoni". Now, both "Adoni" and "Kyrios" translate to Lord, or The Lord, etc, into English; when you see the disciples calling Jesus "Kyrios" in the New Testament I feel like that evidence, given the context, that they knew Jesus was "YHWH". Our God and our Savior. Because if "Adoni" = "YHWH", and "Kyrios" = "Adoni" Then "Kyrios" = "YHWH" also. Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord, Jesus!
You have a language-tech problem here considering that the Septuagint's Greek is a more complex/detailed text; Ancient Hebrew only has appx 8000 words in its lexicon, whereas Ancient Greek has appx 1mil. One could simplify a translation going from Greek to Hebrew as the translators have a bigger pool of words, but not the other way around for Hebrew to Greek - . Go and listen to the Dr Hillman over at Lady Babylon, a Philologist who studies languages evolving over time, expert in Ancient Greek, medical practices and drug use in Antiquity, and hear how we have got it all wrong;
The Hebrew text is the translation of the Septuagint.
The comment at 7:54 was very misguided because the translation made at the court of ptolemy was only from the five books of Moses - not the other books including Isaiah - and in general the name "septuagint" became conflated with any & all greek translations even those having nothing to do with the original ptolemy-rabbinic translation making the whole basic of this video misguided (this video even acknowledges that Isaiah wasn't part of the Rabbis original translation - 1:07 )
*The King James bible **_was_** at one time a literary masterpiece without blemish. There were no spelling, grammar or punctuation errors in it. I have a short film in my playlist on how that was acheived. Now, they're on every page! Satan has **_supernaturally_** attacked it more than any other translation, but all of them in every language have been destroyed in the fulfillment of prophecy! Plus all concordances, encyclopedias, dictionaries, history books, the original manuscripts and the Dead Sea scrolls have been miraculously changed to match!*
*He didn't change every word, Satan is too smart for that and he understands that rats won't eat pure poison so .05% is added to 99.95% corn and the rats love it... and perish for lack of knowlege! He could have changed more but people would notice and stop reading it, but he made sure he changed enough to bring people to Hell!*
*Our Father said to "prove all things" and everybody better obey Him on this thing especially. I memorized many verses word for word and I can draw an accurate picture of my baby stroller. I'm 71, was saved when I was 10 and **_had been_** reading only the **_exact same copy_** of the King James bible since 1961. (I am not a king James onlyist, but now I'm glad I never read any others or I might not have noticed the changes as soon.) I absolutely **_know_** that the word **_demons_** used to be all through it. But today that word is not anywhere in there! It was replaced with **_devils._** And the only place I've ever read the word **_wineskins_** was in my bible, but it's not in it any more either. It was replaced with **_bottles._** And now **_unicorns, easter, matrix, castles, damsels, stuff, corn, colleges, banks, employment, schools, missles, tires, mufflers, manifolds, engines, highways, suburbs, pavement, presidents, doctors, pilots, sheriffs, beer, dumb ass, India, Spain, Italy, ferryboats, couches_** and lots of other words are in my bible that I never saw in it my whole life! Many of these words are anachronisms, **_(THEY DIDN'T EVEN EXIST IN 1611!!!)_** It never talked about men with breasts full of milk or fathers nursing babies either, but now it does!*
*Isaiah 11:6 used to say the **_"LION_** shall lie down with the "Lamb", not the **_"wolf"_** shall also dwell with the Lamb! Lion represents Jesus and wolf is associated with Satan! There are 15+ films in my playlist that will show you plenty of undeniable "residue" which could easily prove it's been changed **_IN ANY COURT OF LAW ON EARTH!_** ("residue" is what they call all the proof of what **_was_** that Satan missed)*
*Luke 17:34 used to say "two shall be in one bed, one shall be taken and the other one left", but now it says "two **_men_** shall be in one bed...! And the following verse said "two women shall be grinding at the mill together" but now it just says "two women shall be **_grinding together"!_** So now the bible makes it sound like some homosexuals are going to be ''raptured"! (BTW nobody's going anywhere until after the tribulation)*
But *this is the BIGGIE,* in Luke 19:27 it has Jesus saying "And those mine enemies that would not that I should reign over them, bring hither and *SLAY THEM BEFORE ME!"* It did say _"eshew them away"!_ This change makes Jesus and all of us sound like radical extremists!! *Millions of Christians will be killed because of this verse!!!* And I know that this is a parable, but the king Jesus was talking about was Himself, the King of Kings! The film titled *Satan's Agents and Doctrines of Demons* which is in my playlist is mainly about this verse, and is the most important video most of you have ever seen. (It has Chuck Missler and Chuck Lawson in is also)
*I memorized the Lord's prayer as a boy because Jesus told us to say it, and I have said it tens of thousands of times, and it absolutely did not say **_which_** art in heaven, it said **_who_** art in heaven, it didn't say **_in earth,_** it was **_on earth._** And it now says forgive us our **_debts_** instead of our **_trespasses!!!_*
*God has sent His strong delusion to all of the people that never received the love of the truth! What's scary is, so far that appears to be almost all believers! This incredible phenomenon they're calling the "Mandela Effect" is absolutely real, but it should actually be called the "Daniel 7:25 Effect" because that's where God said He would give the Antichrist power to do this, (''change times and laws'' which we now know meant ''history and scripture". one of many previously misinterpreted prophecies).*
*I first became aware of some of the bible changes in 2014 before I ever had a computer or had heard of the "Mandela effect", but since 2016 I've watched many hundreds of videos on the subject, and saved some of the best and most important ones for proving our bibles have been changed and pointing out all the places this was talked about in end time prophecies that we had previously misinterpreted in my playlist which you can see by 👉 typing into RUclips (PROOF OF BIBLE CHANGE RESIDUE JUNKIE)* 👈
ruclips.net/p/PLOTw4zBND_NPf66nKUONLoe2MNFLb5LQr
*Even though I will no longer read any bible, mine gives me the creeps just looking at it like a Ouija board or something, I continue to study what God inspired men to write by seeing what scriptures have been changed with proof of what was originally written. I urge you all to do the same, while you still can, because when the lights go out, all we'll have then is hard copies of the bible Satan wants us reading! At that point Amos **8:12** will be fulfilled where it says we will no longer be able to find His words anywhere again.*
*This is without question the biggest and most important event since the day of Pentecost! When you see absolute proof that the miraculous fulfillment of end time prophecies are happening with your own eyes, and how close we are to our Savior's return, it's the most faith strengthening and exciting thing that you've ever experienced!*
*God bless you all!!!* ❤✝️💪🏻
*P.S. After people have taken all of the required 💉's, they will apply a quantum dot invisible tattoo to their head or hand, but anyone who has had just one has a bluetooth mac # that can be read by any smart phone and when you walk through the deal at an airport they know if you have it. They are literally no longer human, have triple helix DNA and their offspring won't be human either! The no buying or selling is happening incrementally and will be complete when cash is abolished and worship can be defined as "to fear, obey and trust in someone or something" which is what they are doing with the Beast System and the Image of the Beast, (NWO and TV!). Yes, this absolutely is it, and if you write me at the address on my about page I'll send you 17 **_shocking_** films that will PROVE it to anyone who has the courage to watch them.*
Praise YHWH!!
Well written and said. Will delve into your playlists. Thanks for sharing. Bless you.
Who write the Bible?
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*Three groups of theologians who oversaw each of the other groups. Certainly not King James!*
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This is why there is only GOD the truth
Only the truth will set us free...John 8:32
Time to learn war no more Isaiah 2:4
Time to repent and stop sinning too...
Jesus Christ is returning and this is all written in The Holy Scriptures... perhaps the extreme killing is what man needs to listen to God?
God help us please...
Armageddon
Para Sympathetic Nervous System = Love: Joy; Faith; Goodness; Kindness; Mildness; Patience with Self Control not to sin or hurt another for Peace, Twofold Peace via a quiet conscience with God and self for Peace with others via a quiet conscience with God and self for Peace from The Holy Spirit of Peace; The Whole Spirit of Love Anointed namely Jesus Christ who is returning quickly for Healing All Nations and Heaven on Earth as promised for The Promised Land to come... Come...
Sympathetic Nervous System response - Fright, Fight, Flight Syndrome Adrenalin Response of Fear... Stress hormones and fleshly traits... Galatians 5: 16 - 26
Love is not a cortisol stress hormone of fear but a naturally occuring endorphin blood made whole and One in our body which is The Temple for God's Love to dwell for healing All Nations and Heaven on Earth as promised for The Promised Land to come... Come...
Do not 'Positively Die' Genesis 2:17
We are saved by Grace through Faith...
With thanks to God/Love for Faith: ' the assured expectation of the things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities not yet beheld ' Hebrews 11:1
Happy Easter, Happy Christmas via The Holy Spirit of Peace...Pentecost where we at One with Peace and Love, Atonement,
At One ment with Love for Light and enlightenment of Love Anointed namely Jesus Christ, Yeshua Hamashiac in Jewish, Isa in Arabic, Krīstös in Greek... who is returning quickly for Healing All Nations and Heaven on Earth as promised for The Promised Land to come... Come...
Time to end all abuse Time for Heaven on Earth as Love is not a cortisol stress hormone of fear but a naturally occuring endorphin blood made whole and One in our body which is The Temple for God's Love to dwell...
Time to cleanse our minds, body and environment...rivers, seas, soil, homes, towns, planet...
Time for Thy Kingdom Come...Come...
HalleluYah...
Praise Jah.
Revelation 7, 12, 19, 21, 22 and all scripture
Babylon the Great is falling... 🕊💖🕊✨✨✨✨
God bless us all in every language and tongue through God's moral and righteous Love Anointed namely Jesus Christ who is returning quickly... Isa in Arabic, Assalum Aliakum...Yeshua Hamashiac in Jewish... Shalom Alekhem...
Krīstös in Greek...
🙏🏼🕊🙏🏼🕊🙏🏼🕊🙏🏼🕊🙏🏼🕊
And Jesus is His messenger
Where does the the star of David ,the one in the Isreali star comes from??
Not from anything in ancient times. It's the coat of arms of a certain well known family.
Tis not The STAR of David..but the SHIELD of David....
"72 men 72 days every copy identical"
This is obviously a myth created to
promote the Septuaginta
Besides, it is not a 100 % translation.
Much of the material deviates from
the Hebrew version.
There was no ancient hebrew text. The Septuagint was written in Greek because it was a superior language. Hellenization offered a primitive language and culture an identity.
Uh-huh.
There are some Hebrew Septuagints among the Dead Sea Scrolls.
The Orthodox Church has always used the LXX. The Orthodox Study Bible (Thomas Nelson publishing) is an excellent English translation from the LXX Greek. (If your Greek us Rusty.)
That's the one I read!
Question for all of you lovers of Septuagint: is 70=72? And what business had any of the tribes with the Scriptures, other than Levites?
The Septuagint is NOT "a translation." The Septuagint is the ORIGINAL. Many scholars all over the world from different disciplines back up this claim. The Cult of Yahu was roughly a Near Eastern copy of the Cult of Dionysus. That Cult of Yahu did not have any OT texts. Nope. That's what we know from the archaeological record. The Septuagint was a "national literature" on the model of Plato's Laws. Biblion back then were scrolls and expensively copied by hand. Don't imagine uniformity which did not exist at the time.
Nonsense
@@theomnisthour6400 We are not guessing. We have the receipts in the archaeological record. No more fake "folk history." There are no "movie versions of the past." Christians run more Law Schools and Medical Schools than any government on earth. A whopping 1/3 of the global human population are Christians today. Christians do famously write and read and teach but ARE NOT Christians "in a book" or "in their heads."
@@theomnisthour6400so what’s truth . Pervert gardens of nude captives .
Certainly not! Nearest to the original text seems to be the Samaritan Pentateuch.
An assertion is not evidence and conspiracy theories (especially ones equating Yahweh with Dionysus!) are just that: conspiracy theories,
Depending on who the teacher of the Bible, regardless of the translation, the Holy Bible itself in all it's many iterations and translations is the most dangerous book in the world. The Bible can be used as a Book of Good, or it can be wielded to be used as a Book of Evil. More deaths and division around the world are caused by the words coming forth from it's pages. It all depends upon the intention of the one teaching it.
God used Greek to spread the Scriptures around the world..
and He meant to do this.
Amen!
The September Bible corrects a lot of the errors (if not all) of the vulgate. This is why Protestants don’t use the KJV.
I had to look it up, but as far as I can tell, Luther's September Bible was only the New Testament so that wouldn't really help when it comes to the Septuagint (which is the Old Testament). But just so you know, the KJV is the most popular Bible in protestant churches even today.
Extremely well done.
Thank you kindly!
Though St Jerome used Hebrew copies of the Old Testament, he did include all the books. Yes, The Septiuagent is the true Old Testament, one can find the Greek to whatever language in the Orthodox, and Coptic Bibles.
The Dead Sea Scrolls have copies of both the Masoretic and the Septuagint versions. This shows that both the Greek and the Hebrew were used at the time of Christ. The scribes could not have invented scriptures to disprove Christ , before Christ came. There are other reasons for the differences.
“The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.”
-Psalm 12:6-7 KJV ✝️🤍🕊️⛪️
Just so you know, India is in Asia.
Noted.