@gattodiossa6227 i am 72 and remember those pittsburgh years. it should be remembered that even though the league cracked down on quarterback injuries, big ben, peyton manning, rogers, and everyone else, including mahomes has played under the same rules. when you look at the two decades of work, where brady would have been inducted into the hall of fame in either decade; when you consider that often he did not have the best players on his teams, when like montana, again and again he had to carry the team on his shoulders for a comeback win; the 'will of the wisp' has carried himself rather well. i wonder how big ben, rogers, and mahomes would fare in the 70's and 80's. now to terry bradshaw. he might make my top ten. he was an undervalued quarterback in that he had a bevy of hall of famers in front of him. the steel curtain was one of the best in football, if not the best of all time. the quarterback could be badly injured in that era, but you had to get to him first. bradshaw could throw that biscuit. he did his job. he made it count when it was important to do so. would he have brady's career or stats in the last 20 years? would he have won 7 superbowls? brady benefited from a bad division, but brady had to show up when it counted the most, and he did. would bradshaw have won 6 superbowls with belichek? maybe ..... would montana have won 6? maybe. would stabauch? i believe bradshaw is overlooked because of how good and powerful those pittsburgh teams were. i never was a fan of favre. i would put bradshaw in his spot. otherwise i put bradshaw in the top 15 because 'we will never know.'
@@JoeKoOhNo gotta give u a thumbs down when you were giving #1 to steve young. wow! he was no joe montana. no one puts steve young in the top ten. give me a link that states otherwise, my friend.
@@edwardjjanzen23 Going to have to give you the finger. Don't care what the ignorant think. Steve Young: #1 rated passer 6 times. He's #1 all-time .Montana & Brady? Only rated #1, twice. Steve Young: #6 total rushing yards in career. Montana & Brady? Not in top ten Steve Young: #2 rushing TDs career Montana & Brady: not in top ten. Young: 64.3 per cent completion avg,. Montana: 63.2. Young: 8.0 yds per completion avg; Montana 7.5. Young career QB rating: 96.8; Montana: 92.3. So, Young was the better passer and runner. Obviously, Montana was no Steve Young.
Bart Starr? In an era when the quarterback was the game manager. He became the one who cemented dynasty. Winning the first two Super Bowls and MVP in both.
It's rare that you see Starr on these top ten lists. I would have him on my top ten list. A 9 and 1 playoff record speaks volumes for me about how great of a Q.B. he was.
@@cleanestbestpleasure14 Serious I thank you for correcting me,I though it was 2. hat gives him 5 titles. When teams could play Defense and Qb's were fair game.
Favre and Rodgers aren't even the best Packers QB of all-time, that accolade belongs to Bart Starr. Also, what about Otto Graham, a 10 year career, where he reached the Championship game every season, and won 7 titles.
Same year ! That is a RECORD that will NEVER come close to being set again ? Love Unitas , Fouts , Marino . But, this is the man that CHANGED passing for the NFL at that time !
Geez, Thank You So Very Much for not being the only guy (besides me) who knows that. How good would today's QB's be if they had to play DB instead of sitting on the sidelines?
Please don't get too big on 'Gunslingers'. Favre was a gunslinger, he won one championship, and the kick returner was the MVP. In the playoffs, gunslingers tend to throw interceptions. @@markfrommaryland3825
@@Profeex22 Wrong. He was entirely responsible for two Super Bowl victories and held Super Bowl passing records for years. Steelers were losing when Bradshaw threw Immaculate Reception that won the game. If you think anyone could have completed that pass, you don't know how to throw a football.
If you use the REAL GOAT" scoring system that measures how far above average all quarterbacks were among the quarterbacks in their own era, Tarkenton is the best quarterback of all time. #2 Peyton Manning #3 Drew Brees #4 Johnny Unitas and #5 Rodgers. #6 Y. A. Tittle #7 Tom Brady #8 Staubach #9 Steve Young #10 Dan Fouts #11 Norm Van Brocklin #12 Dan Marino #13 Joe Montana. These 13 IMO deserve a special wing in the Hall of Fame. It is a long drop in the scoring down to Sonny Jurgensen at #14
@@csnide6702 ottos impact was so important that it forced the NFL TO EXPAND to 3 additional teams from the AAFL ,colts, 49ers, Browns. He also forced the Rams out of Cleveland even after the Rams won The NFL TITLE there. Ottos also was beating NFL TEAMS while with the AAFL BROWNS. PAPA BEAR HALLES WAS SMART BUISNESS MAN to do all the things he did to make the NFL YOU KIDS WATCH TODAY.
@@csnide6702 that's a very arogant statement. The game was much tuffer at that time then it is today. The rules of the NFL of today are so players can play more games to make money, so the contact is not as brutal. They played in mud,ran across baseball in fields of hard dirt, helmets were weak, no face masks. Please stop degrading early football that created this great league. Otto should be up there with Tom Brady and if you don't like that opinion then your a sore looser.
The rules of earlier eras were so greatly different and yet have had a tremendous effect on the passing stats. So much so that we are basically comparing apples and oranges. Instead of greatest of all time, we should just focus on greatest of each era. One thing for sure is the Quarterbacks of the 1930s thru the mid 70s had it a lot tougher.
I agree. I dislike Brady because he's is really good and im salty. BUT, if Brady was to play back when Montana played.....Brady would be crying on the ground like a little bitch..
I agree but the era should include the 80s because coaches still ran the ball a heck of a lot more than passing. Put Marino or Elway in today's offenses and they'd have 6000 yards and 40 tds a season.
Drew Brees never gets the respect he deserves. Brees finished with a total of 80,358 passing yards and 571 touchdowns. He ranks first in NFL history in career yards passing and second in touchdown passes, only behind Tom Brady. He holds the record for most consecutive games with a touchdown pass (54). He is also the only player with multiple 5,000-yard passing seasons (5 of the league's 14) and holds the record for most 300+ passing games (123) Brees also holds the records for most career completions (7,142 completions) as well as best career completion percentage (67.7 percent). He holds the best completion percentage in a single season (74.4 percent), as well as the 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 7th and 9th all-time spots on that list. No one else on this list even shows up until Joe Montana at 16th. He's the most accurate QB in history, ranks 1st all-time in yards and 2nd all-time in TD's - but he's only 6th on this list? C'mon. Give me the Manning argument that beats that.
@Ellis_Hugh Drew Brees 1 superbowl only and 0 league mvps in 19 seasons never been best Quarterback in league no all decade teams and just played long enough to get longevity stats he's not top 6 best Quarterbacks ever Greatsat Quarterbacks all time 1. Tom Brady 2. Joe Montana 3. Patrick Mahomes 4. Peyton Manning 5. John Elway Patrick Mahomes already better Quarterback then Drew Brees Rings Mahomes 2 ✔️ Brees 1 Superbowl Mvps Mahomes 2✔️ Brees 1 League Mvps Mahomes 2✔️ Brees 0 Passer rating Mahomes 105.7✔️ (1st all time/ Brees 98.7 Yards per game passing Mahomes 303.0✔️ (1st all time) Brees 280.0 Passer rating playoffs Mahomes 107.4✔️ (1st all time) Brees 97.1 Patrick Mahomes stronger arm, more mobile, better playmaker, better deep ball thrower, and better Quarterback then Drew Brees Drew Brees a weak arm dome system Quarterback What does Drew Brees have over Patrick Mahomes other then playing longer time
Drew Brees 1 superbowl only and 0 league mvps in 19 seasons never been best Quarterback in league no all decade teams and just played long enough to get longevity stats he's not top 6 best Quarterbacks ever Greatsat Quarterbacks all time 1. Tom Brady 2. Joe Montana 3. Patrick Mahomes 4. Peyton Manning 5. John Elway Patrick Mahomes already better Quarterback then Drew Brees Rings Mahomes 2 ✔️ Brees 1 Superbowl Mvps Mahomes 2✔️ Brees 1 League Mvps Mahomes 2✔️ Brees 0 Passer rating Mahomes 105.7✔️ (1st all time/ Brees 98.7 Yards per game passing Mahomes 303.0✔️ (1st all time) Brees 280.0 Passer rating playoffs Mahomes 107.4✔️ (1st all time) Brees 97.1 Patrick Mahomes stronger arm, more mobile, better playmaker, better deep ball thrower, and better Quarterback then Drew Brees Drew Brees a weak arm dome system Quarterback What does Drew Brees have over Patrick Mahomes other then playing longer time
I'm right there with you .. I was sitting here thinking I'm either a delusional cowboys fan. Or Troy Aikman was one of the best to do it and probably the most accurate
you sound butt hurt lol. funny you say that as the balls were properly inflated in that game in the second half and actually beat em worse than the first half. oh ya they were properly inflated for the super bowl too which is bradys second best second half 4th qtr in the super bowl 😮
Joe Montana cheated then since WRs of 49ers admitted to sticker gloves Goat 🐐 Brady 7 rings, 5 superbowl mvps surpassed Montana 4 rings, 3 superbowl mvps Greatest Quarterbacks all time 1. Tom Brady 2. Joe Montana 3. Patrick Mahomes 4. Peyton Manning 5. John Elway
I put montana at number 1 because he missed 8 starts in 1986 season and missed entire 1991 season and did not start a game in 1992 at all because of torn elbow and he was knocked out of 3 playoff games too. For brady he played 7 full seasons more than joe retiring at 45 while montana retired at 38. Plus bradys numbers are inflated because the league does not let the pass defenses play like you can't go high or low on brady, cannot hit him anywhere with your helmet or land on him with your full weight . These rules made the passing defenses facing brady to get worn down early plus he benefited from the defenses could not go high on his receivers when the ball got there. Joe never had any of these protections as a qb, and I rest my case.
You nailed it, Joe played in a era when the defense,s didn’t have any rules , Brady wouldn’t have played near aslong with the defense,s that joe had to endure
@@andrethegiant2877 No not quite the end. How about the THREE more Super Bowl losses? And if Montana was the 49er QB in '94 season, he'd have won that one too.
@@andrethegiant2877 Yeah, and his record is 7 - 3. I'm saying by all rights Montana would have been 5 - 0. (Siefert went with Young but Montana was still the better QB, and should have remained in that roll.)
Again for everybody: “Every QB had to adapt and learn to operate in the era in which they found themselves in. The two QB’s that rise to the top in my mind are Tom Brady and Bart Star. Brady was a 7 time Super Bowl champion over an 21 year career, and Bart Star was a 5 time NFL champion and a 2 time Super Bowl champion over a 15 year career. Both adapted to a changing league well enough to be a champion no matter how the league presented itself.”
If your just talking Championships, Otto Graham went to 10 straight NFL Championships and won 7 of them. Of course Paul Brown had a lot to with it too.
It is a team game, quarterbacks don't win championships. Both Starr's and Brady's teams were led by the defenses. For Bart that was true every year and for Tom all but two. Brady's teams had the luxury of 17 top 10 defenses which is more than twice as many as any other quarterback in history.
@@bryanjones4444 Then kudos to Belichick for that. I don’t know any SB winning team that didn’t have a defense that came through in big moments. In the patriots championships and defeats the plays that stand out are on both sides of the ball.. But I can’t agree with you that QB’s don’t win championships. QB’s making plays when they need to make them win championships too.
Best defenses of all time. Only had to put up 20 points to win 1 time in any of his 4 Super Bowl games. Defenses were definitely the main reason for his rings, not Terry.
In no particular order: - Tom Brady - Peyton Manning - Aaron Rodgers - Drew Brees - Joe Montana - Roger Staubach - Otto Graham - Johnny Unitas - Patrick Mahomes - Dan Marino Honorable Mention: - Brett Favre - John Elway - Steve Young - Fran Tarkenton - Ben Roethlisberger
Good list, but Dan Fouts should always get at least an honorable mention. The stuff the Air Coryell offense was doing over 40 years ago set the table for what teams did much later.
And it [ WAS ] this Dan that changed the NFL into a passing league , NOT Marino ! Fouts was doing it at least 5 years before Marino was even in the NFL ?
Damn fuckin' right RE: Dan Fouts. BTW; Air Coryell = The ORIGINAL West Coast Offense. If my memory serves me correctly; San Diego's on the WEST COAST!!!!! There4; I stand by what I've said RE: The Air Coryell Offense.
@@philipbiggs5883 W/all due respect; I believe that u r actually alluding 2 the 1981 AFC Championship Game vs. the Bengals (the "-59 WC" Game). 1980 was The Oakland Raiders.
Obviously, Ronald, we spent ages having someone write and research a piece, then spent days putting together footage but Ron thinks we didn't do any research 😐
Sammy Baugh, Sid Luckman - a different era and a different game, but those guys had it. And they had to play offense and defense. Let today's QB's try to go both ways and that will certainly thin the ranks.
In this 'new era' list, I sure wasn't expecting to see my boyhood hero, Johnny Unitas. Very cool. It's like someone below said, and I agree. There should be a list for each era or decade. But thank you for this one. A '70s list would have to include Dan Marino.
Like you, Unitas was my boyhood hero when growing up, learning the game of football from my dad. Unitas is on the list, if you ask me, because his influence on the game is timeless. He was a masterful field general - one of the best to ever play.
IDK for instance Matt Ryan was on a pace take most of Brady's records and he would have done it in less time had he kept playing. If Mahomes is able to play 19 years he will likely pass what Tom did in 22 years. Someone will do it. Brees and Manning would be higher if not for the late career injuries.
Terry Bradshaw never lost a Super Bowl and was 4-0 like Montana. He easily should’ve been at least mentioned or tied for second with Montana I also noticed some great QBs not even mentioned such as Bart Starr for the Green Bay Packers for all their NFL Championships before the Super Bowl was arranged. Then he went and won those first two Super Bowls. How he’s left out of this list is incredulous. I know Joe Namath didn’t have the the best overall stats but he virtually was the QB / player that initiated the merging of the two leagues AFL / NFL. AND…. Namath orchestrated the greatest upset in Super Bowl history by beating the then great Baltimore Colts that set in motion the two league merger into the now one NFL. Lenny Dawson sealed the deal the next year by upsetting the powerful Minnesota Vikings in SB 4.
Namath had horrendous stats. You are right, the upset, prediction, fur coats and commercials got him in the Hall. His performance in the Super Bowl had little to do with the win, Matt Snell and the Jet Defense won that game. Namath had a strong arm, no knees and was mostly a bad decision maker. He had maybe three good seasons. I would take a dozen QBs just from his era over him.
I've always felt that people have always overrated Montana a bit. Yes he won 4 SBs, etc, but so did Bradshaw. It takes more than just the QB to win a SB. It takes all the players and coaches.
A pretty good list there could be some honorable mention like Terry Bradshaw , Troy Aikman,Ben Roethlisberger and Joe Namath i strongly agree with the top three
While Namath may have been "important" because of Super Bowl III, he was mediocre for most of his career. Namath was 25 at that game. Name me one other big game he won after that.
You missed one of the best. Fran Tarkenton of the Vikes and the Giants, Before he retired he owned all of the records until that time. Also he invented tie ART of scrambling. No supere bowls but no other QB was as feared. Thanks
Oh Joe Kapp was the losing QB, not Tarkenton, when Vikings lost their 1st SB. Tarkenton then lost 3 SBs. We, Patriots, got saddled with Joe Kapp the following season (1970), he was terrible!!!
Otto Graham 3 NFL championships only ànd that league his other titles came from another league AAFC y'all need to do y'all research before y'all try to twist a false narrative lol We talking greatest NFL Quarterbacks Greateat Quarterbacks all the NFL 1. Tom Brady 2. Joe Montana 3. Patrick Mahomes 4. Peyton Manning 5. John Elway
@@TerryLanda-fj9iv They didn't keep the stats needed to fully analyze Sammy's career at the time that he played, but he is definitely top 5 and very likely the GOAT.
1. No such thing. Can't be the best of all time unless you played all time. It surprises me none that most of these guys played in the era where rules (and rules enforcement) were customized to PROMOTE passing offense.
Like most millennials, you have next to no knowledge or appreciation of anything before you were born. Any all-time QB list that doesn't include Otto Graham is a complete and absolute joke. I'm amazed you were even able to consider Johnny Unitas. Go look him up. (shaking my head in disgust) And Dan Marino was a great PASSER... not a great quarterback. Don Shula was able to win championships with 2 different teams but couldn't win one with Marino. That says a lot.
First off, I didn't say or even presume anyone was a millenial. I do stand on the statement that 'most' millenials know little (and care less) about anything before they were born. This post exemplifies 'recency bias' and a 'passing' bias in the extreme. There is actually more to playing QB (and a truly crazy idea... FOOTBALL) than throwing the ball. Now that's not only true about millenials but is particularly true about young people irrespective of any labels. I hated Terry Bradshaw, but I wouldn't let Dan Marino carry his jock. And for me Archie Manning was better than both Peyton and Eli. Unfortunately, the teams he was on were lousy. How about Dan Fouts, Jim Plunkett, Warren Moon, Sammy Baugh, or Fran Tarkenton to name just a few.
@@JKRDBA "Like most millennials, you have next to no knowledge or appreciation of anything before you were born" - were your exact words. You are presuming the person that wrote this is not only a millennial, but also has no knowledge or appreciation of anything. Perhaps you need to not be so mad about lists that people make and post online for fun. And also, maybe as someone who has no respect for millennials (which the author of this article is not) you might set an example by acting a little more your own age and showing others some respect.
@@thesportingblog23 Yep, they smoked and pounded beers and played hungover a lot. Some guys used steroids but players are still getting caught for "PEDS" in modern football. It's sad when golfers & baseball players are using roids, lol. Someone said that Barry Bonds' head is still growing.
It's subject to debate, certainly, but view all available footage from their careers (regular season as well as playoffs/Super Bowl) and the opposite view might emerge. Plenty of reasons why. I won't list them all here, and maybe a tie at the #10 spot would be the most logical outcome of all. But if I had to choose one, I'd have to take Roger. We all know that Bradshaw and the Steelers defeated the Cowboys head-to-head during the 70s, but judging from the stats, Terry was under much less defensive pressure. In the four times they played, Pittsburgh allowed less than half as many QB sacks as Dallas...and that's despite Staubach's ability to escape the pass rush. It's pretty impressive that he kept them close in the Super Bowls. Dallas's offensive line was solid by NFL standards, but overmatched against Pittsburgh's front four. Besides that, despite the perception that Bradshaw "called the plays" and Staubach didn't, there are many accounts of Terry struggling to understand and remember the playbook, asking for reminders in the huddle (if it's of interest, read Preston Pearson's book, available on the Internet Archive), and finally just cranking it up and throwing...into a blanket of opposing defenders. Take a look at the pick-six he threw to Vernon Perry in the 1979-80 AFC Championship game, on which Merlin Olsen remarked, "There's no way that pass goes to anyone but Vernon Perry." And this is prime Bradshaw, not his early-career stumbles - and there are plenty of other examples. In contrast, Staubach had a much lower interception %. (See: ruclips.net/video/bw4by31W24g/видео.html View the replay starting at 14:31) Despite the trope that Staubach relied on having his plays sent in by Tom Landry, Roger actually reworked many of the individual pass patterns in the huddle, which sounds even more intricate than just calling the play from the outset. Moreover, Landry and the QBs worked out a detailed, situational game plan early in the week, in order to practice the plays, so they'd already knew what they were going to call. This being said, Bradshaw absolutely ranks as an all-time great and as long as the list doesn't extend beyond #10, why not a multi-way tie that also includes Bart Starr, Fran Tarkenton, and Dan Fouts? If a key criterion is impact on the game, each of them definitely bore that impact. Meanwhile, in terms of ability and performance, I'd have to put Steve Young near the top.
These assholes never put Steelers on their lists. One moron did a top ten dynasties and left the "70's" Steelers off the list. Acting like Dallas with 3 SB's in 5 seasons was phenomenal. I guess he forgot the Steelers 4 SB's in 6 seasons. The ONLY ream to win back to back twice! The NFL changed rules because of the Steelers defense. Otherwise they might have won 6 in a row.
@@stevendreifach7737Preston Pearson? You mean that malcontent the Steellers got rid of? Always whinning about not getting enough carries! We had Franco, of course you're not going to get a bunch of carries. He hated Bradshaw, and Noll! Of course you would take Roger! You're a Cowboys fan! Terry was better! Look at the winning TD pass to Swann in SB X Roger would never stand in there like that, knowing he was going to get smashed. Look at SB XIII Terry threw 5 TD passes. Without Bradshaw, even our great defense wouldn't have won those games. You need to rewatch the films!
@@markellison1707 By Preston Pearson, I'm referring to the running back who consistently averaged 12.0+ yards per reception, and was money on third down passes. He liked Terry a lot, as do most people - they were very good friends, and spent a lot of time together off the field. What happened was that Bradshaw couldn't remember any plays to call in the red zone, and was asking around the huddle. The other offensive players were taken aback, and Pearson, as a friend, tried to talk Bradshaw through the situation. Word got back to Noll, who told Pearson to keep quiet in the huddle. Obviously, Noll didn't want anyone to throw Terry a life preserver; they had a notoriously hostile relationship, which Bradshaw has spoken about at great length. On certain occasions, Noll, a former offensive lineman, grabbed Terry by the jersey or even the face mask as he came off the field. There were altercations. Bradshaw has stated that Noll was very abusive - other Steelers of the era disagree - and in the middle of all this conflict, Terry bypassed the Steeler organization in choosing someone to present him in Canton, which is a major ceremonial distinction. Franco was presented by Swann, who in turn was presented by Stallworth, etc. Bradshaw was presented by a longtime Cowboys announcer, Verne Lundquist, whom he hadn't even known that long. As for Pearson, not long after Noll told him to keep quiet in the huddle, he got pulled into more tense situations because of his role as union rep when the players held a one-month preseason strike (summer of 1974). He was released and picked up by Dallas, where he undoubtedly saw more action than he would have with Pittsburgh. But you're wrong to claim he had any sort of tension with Bradshaw. As far as Noll and Bradshaw...that's a different story, but Noll had a harsh life and could seem extremely unsympathetic. . Now, going back even further to Roger vs. Terry...if you want me to look at Super Bowl X, I think that makes my point, not yours. Dead equal in yardage (Staubach: 204 yards passing, 22 running; Bradshaw: 209 yards passing, 16 running). The difference, as I mentioned in the first post, is that Staubach was under much more pressure - he was sacked seven times, compared to two for Bradshaw. The Dallas offensive line was good, but overmatched by the Pittsburgh front four. As for your claim that Roger wouldn't stand in, well, he stayed in the game despite being sacked seven times. Super Bowl XIII? Bradshaw threw four touchdowns, not five as you said. Staubach threw three, and a certain fourth TD was dropped by Jackie Smith. Staubach threw for 228 yards and ran for 37. Bradshaw threw for 309 and ran for minus 5. So you have a 50-yard difference. That difference stems completely from a single after-the-catch run by John Stallworth. Added to that, Bradshaw lost two fumbles (none for Staubach). Granted, Bradshaw had an MVP performance and a great game, but in both Super Bowls, the difference in QB performance is pretty much a wash. Now that's just Super Bowls; the focus belongs on the entire season. Although it's obviously a team sport, Staubach's regular season winning percentage (which I believe is about 75%) is pretty extraordinary. I think people willingly give him credit despite his shortened career, because he spent a long time in the military, including a year overseas in Vietnam. Maybe it's too bad he didn't play a couple of additional years, but he had a lot more going on than football. That''s not to take anything away from Bradshaw, a definite All-Pro. You could just about rate them tied, and add Bart Starr, Fran Tarkenton, Dan Fouts, and Steve Young to the tie. If it's a top 10, why worry about a huge tie for the tenth spot? Nobody comes after.
Terry Bradshaw, Troy Aikman, Joe Montana all had hall of fame wide receivers on their teams. Just think if Tom Brady had a Jerry Rice, Michael Irvin, and other hall of fame wide receivers on his team he would have won more than 7super bowls .
I would have to say Otto Graham needs to be recognized for sure I agree...Im Thankful for your inclusive Rodger Staubach but we would be remiss if we didn't at least mention the several years of service to his Country just think of the additional mark on the game...Wow ! What might have been. Also the same could be said of Warren Moon who had set so many records for years in the Canadian League before having a Great Career in the NFL... OMG.Thnx Live Long and Prosper
The list is just 10, but it doesn't go back beyond Unitas. Bill Kilmer comes to mind. Dan Fouts is another great. All of those QBs who played in the 50s and 60s when they weren't protected like they are today.
I’m aWashington fan! Billy Kilmer was not a ‘great QB’ . He wasn’t even the greatest qb on that era’s teams. The Hall of Famer, Sonny Jurgenson was better. Kilmer was a wing T QB in college and was mostly a runner and with San Francisco 49’s. He was a sacrificial lamb in New Orleans and was beat to hell by that expansion franchise. Watch the 1969 movie ‘Number One’ starring Carlton Heston and you will see it is Kilmer who is taking all those beatings used in the film. It was George Allen who admired his grit and resurrected his career. I am an old,old timer and actually saw this stuff.
@@MBubbaBlumeTheBeardofModesty Otto Graham 3 NFL Championships so try again he's not goat of NFL Otto Graham others championships came in a whole other league AAFC learn the difference Greatsat Quarterbacks all time 1. Tom Brady 2. Joe Montana 3. Patrick Mahomes 4. Peyton Manning 5. John Elway
Greatest superbowl era qbs maybe someone should tell him football existed before superbowl as he included Marino he broke his own rules to get on this list
When you stand on the shoulders of Giants, you look even more impressive. What about Luckman, Baugh, Graham...who transcended their position at a time when their position was largely irrelevant. RESPECT.
Also how do you not put Terry Bradshaw on the list I mean he won four super bowls not to mention to this day he is the only one to ever go back to back twice unless I'm mistaken unless it was two years between each title run but I think it was one he was pretty darn close to going five-in-a-row how do you not even put him on the list what's up with that???
This list is completely scued. Tom Brady, like Peyton Manning, competed in an era in which Quarterbacks were treated like Porcelain Dolls!! In the era of Johnny Unitas and Bart Starr, anything and everything went!! Receivers and Quarterbacks were cheap shotted with impunity. In the late Seventies the so called "Mel Blount Rule" was implemented. Defensive Backs were no longer allowed to hold a Receiver outside a five yard window. Far worse, were the Head Hunters like Jack Tatum and George Atkinson. Now, Defensive Backs are scrutinized like a bug under a microscope. Back then, every play was a targeting call!! In the days of Pittsburghs "Steel Curtain," Jack Lambert griped that Quarterbacks should be "Wearing Dresses." Now, they're treated like a China Doll collectible!! My personal list would have Joe Montana Number One. Johnny U would be a solid number two. Tom Brady would be no better than third. "The Man Named Brady" would have spent more time in a Hospital Bed than on the field in that brutal era. His career would have lasted 25 games, rather than 25 seasons. One hit like the type that the Signal Callers routinely endured in that era would have shattered Tom, like a ticking time bomb.
This is a long essay! All appreciated but do you think that these old school players would have the athletiscm to compete at the level of today's professional players?
@@thesportingblog23 Oh, yeah. Like Brady was the best athlete ever. Gimme a break! Brady is a cheater. Most of the metrics they use to make Brady #1 have to do with team success.
Brady how many sb did he lose 2. Same thing with manning a legend in His own mind How many sb did Joe lose???? None 4-0. Tired of this brady manning crap. Mediocre at best
@@richardeverson6994 Thank you. Montana never threw an interception in a Super Bowl and never lost one. And Brady lost 3. Two To Eli and One to Nick Foles, plus Brady was a cheat.
@@richardeverson6994 Joe Montana 15 seasons means 11 times he lost and failed to win or get to superbowl including losing to Giants 15-13 over 49ers in 1990 NFC championship game Last I checked Joe Montana didn't play only 4 seasons Goat 🐐 Brady 7 rings, 5 superbowl mvps has surpassed Montana 4 rings, 3 superbowl mvps I'll take 7-3 and having more rings and mvps then 4-0 and losing early in playoffs Greatest Quarterbacks all time 1. Tom Brady 2. Joe Montana 3. Patrick Mahomes 4. Peyton Manning 5. John Elway
Graham is the greatest still hold record most yards per attempt won same amount of championships in less than 10 years guess what won an NBA championship as well Brady is tied with him took half of 50 years to do it read statistics when he retired he played for Cleveland but last game was in California they gave him a standing ovation that was Otto Graham
The number of championships a player wins does not indicate their individual greatness. If it did, Robert Horry would be considered better than Jordan. If I were an opposing DC or defensive player, there isn't a player on this list I would want to face having to make a stop. But there are some I would rather face than others. That said, Marino and Moon should both be considered for this list. Neither won a championship, but those guys could sling it as well as anybody who has played the game.
Warren Moon. Had to play about 5-6 years in the CFL at the start of his career, losing many great years. I hated that man. He always beat my team-the Blue Bombers, especially in the playoffs. Yes I respect him a lot. He was awesome in his prime and we had him in Canada.
@@thesportingblog23 I would consider fouts and Otto for roger staubach or aaron rodgers for me, but that doesn’t mean the list is bad, just my personal preference. This type of a list would be much easier to do as a top 20 instead of top 10. Of course then you would have to select 5 more quarterbacks…
Winning a Super Bowl Championship is not an indicator of greatness for the QB. Many great QB's never made it to the big game. It takes a great team to do that.
Any list that puts Staubach above Bradshaw is a joke. I admit it, a lot of this is opinions because you are judging from different eras but Bradshaw won 4 SB's and dropped Staubach in 2 of them. Bradshaw also called his own plays, Staubach didn't. As for Marino, I think he is overrated. Yes he has the stats, on paper he looks incredible but no championships. Now if he never had a team around him then I could understand but the first 5 years in the league he had the team. He took over a team David Woodley took to a SB, a team that should have won that SB and he never did anything with it. One SB appearance and that was it, if he had gone to 3 or 4, even if had lost them all then I could then say it was the lack of talent but that wasn't the case. I would rate Jim Kelly over Dan Marino. I would also take Aikman over Rodgers but I admit that is solely based on Championships. I just feel that Aikman won 3 and he belongs where I think Rodgers ( I admit it, I think he's overrated too) doesn't.
What ignorance. Woodley went to the Super Bowl with the #1 ranked defense. Marino went there with the #19 defense, and that defense got way worse as Marino's career progressed. Bradshaw had about 4 inept seasons, before he turned it around permanently in 75. In 74, as the Steelers won their first title, Terry was benched and had a bad season. Staubach never had a pair of receivers that Terry had. Staubach had a +44 TD to INT ratio, and Bradshaw was +2. Net Yards per Attempt is the stat the best measures a QB's effectiveness. Staubach's was much better than Bradshaw. Roger led the league in passing 4 times. By every metric Staubach was better. Staubach had 3 defensive hall of famers alongside him Lilly, Renfro, and Randy White. And they never played together. Bradshaw?????? That's why you can't say rings is the ultimate arbiter of greatness as a QB. Is Eli Manning a better player than Dan Marino cause he has 2 and Marino has none? A ridiculous statement. That philosophy is dumb.
i love bradshaw but im okayee with staubach over bradshaw// bradshaws team was stacked, particularly the first two super years the defense was dominating like 85 bears-- now staubach lost head to head and i get that but use the eyeball test--- emmit had better numbers than barry sanders,,,,, who are yo picking as yr RB for one season, you are picking barry because emmitts team was stacked, and yr simple eyeball test tells u barry was about as elusive as they ever made a human being
@thesportingblog23 A great defense can win with an average or below average QB, the 2000 Ravens and 2002 Bucs, being exhibit A. How often has a great QB won with a bad defense? Montana won his first 3 playoff games, all while his defense gave up more than 17 points. After that first title, Montana never won a playoff game for the Niners when his team gave up 17 points. Not once. The 91 Eagles, are the forgotten all time great defense. They didn't win the Super Bowl, they didn't even make the playoffs. Cunningham was hurt in the opening game, and while they had the corpses of Jim McMahon and Jeff Kemp at QB, they managed to win 10 games in the powerful NFC East. SEVEN teams in the NFC won at least 10 games that year. It was unfortunate that we didn't get to see that defense go to work against a playoff offensive team. Great QB's and great defenses sort of go hand in hand.
I personally don’t like to compare players from different eras because the game revolves and change in fact the modern era of quarterbacks are statistically much better between Brady rogers and manning and breeze
Joe was a super accurate QB with that West coast short throw offense. He and Brees also were the best defense readers they rarely went to the wrong guy. another great reader is Mahomes. Still young but if that guy stays healthy he's gonna have a shitpot fulla records. we also gotta remember that Brady played until he was 45 AND had great receivers, coaches, OL AND the rules prevented the bad guys from killing him. No mention of Bradshaw and why was Staubach even in there? No Fouts, either I don't get it.
When you talk about Johnny Unitas, holding a record for 52 years, you must have an asterix nearby since he only played 12 game seasons. Of course his record was beaten by quarterbacks who play 16 games per season. Consecutive starts?
Joe Montana is always and will always be number 1 he never lost a Super Bowl never threw a interception in the super-bowl and highest quarterback rating over 150. Brady had a better team every year with belichick also had many superbowl got lucky to win he should of been not 7-3 but 6-4 or 5-5 aorry kiddooo
Brady benefitted from the illegal taping of defensive coaches signals and team practices. Belichick was fined $500,000. The Patriots were fined $250,000 and stripped of their 2008 1st round draft pick. Brady ordered the footballs deflated for the AFC Championship game in 2014. Brady was suspended for 4 games and the Patriots were fined a million dollars. The U.S. Second Circuit Court of Appeals upheld Brady's suspension. He legally fought it and lost and again the Patriots were stripped of 2 draft picks. Brady played in the cheap yardage, concussion era. He benefitted from the tuck rule. A cheater can't be the GOAT.
@@thesportingblog23 Brady cheated....twice. He lost to Eli Manning in the Super Bowl....twice. He lost to back up Nick Foles. Malcolm Butler saved Brady from a Super Bowl loss to Seattle. These are historical facts, and they make Brady less distinguished than some other QB's, on your list. Other guys did it with less failure and more dominance. Facts are facts. Don't even know why you brought up the steroid thing, no way you can factually state ''the entire NFL was on steroids.''
@@kennyo6582funny how you bring up malcolm butler as he didnt play against the eagles in the game brady threw for over 500 yards yet you blame brady for the lose. btw brady and the pats were leading both super bowls when he left the field to eli and giants only to have a hail mary chance left.
@@BrianK-zz4fk that's true, sir. he still lost to the Giants twice and Malcolm Butler did save him a SB loss. all I am saying is he is not the GOAT for the reasons I explained. I actually have Brady at #2. Montana at #1. Montana was just better and He had no losses in Super Bowl's and holds the record for most points scored in a Super Bowl @ 55. No defensive TD's or Field Goals. Montana had 8 scoring drives in SB 24. Never threw a pick in 4 SB's. Montana was better, never had to cheat and never suspended.
Staubach should be higher. The thing most people that aren't baby boomers is that there was mandatory military service. Roger went to the U.S. Naval academy and then was in the U.S. Navy from 1965-1969. Those years are arguable the most productive. If he would not have had military service. His career would have been longer and had much greater stats. A guy should not be penalized for doing what less than one percent of NFL players can do. That is graduate from one of the U.S. Military Academies where they have to maintain a specific weight. Then leave the game completely for 4 years and come back to be a star.
Tell me in 15 years how well this holds up 1. Tom Brady 2. Patrick Mahomes 3. Joe Montana 4. Peyton Manning 5. Aaron Rodgers 6. Joe Burrow 7. Dan Marino 8. Josh Allen 9. John Elway 10. Brett Favre
To be fair to all great qbs u can't compare 60s to 70s and 80s to 90s the NFL has evolved into a pass happy league so if u take stats as total rating of greatest u are wrong doing. Comparing Staubach and Bradshaw to John Elway or Drew Brees just wrong different eras of NFL.
HOW LAME at 14:40 talking about Joe Montana they show so generic QB in KC Chiefs wearing #11.............Montana wore #19 in KC. Montana is the best QB of all time, brady played in an era where QB were treating like fine China, better not hit the QB or a 15 yard roughing the wimp penalty.
@@thesportingblog23 Wow, a player can't time travel, brilliant observation. Nice picture of #11 while talking about Montana at KC, hint we wore #19. You need to work on your content Montana never lobbied the refs to throw a flag until fragile fine china brady.
@@stevenbaer9061 I don't need to do anything. If you don't like someone's opinion on a game that's fine, but we're allowed to post video just like you are. You can do it if you try.
Don't you know its RUclips so you're not allowed an opinion. The only place you are allowed an opinion is in your mind, in silence and even then don't think about it very loud. Opinion police are watching!
Yep, the great Johnny U. He was the man.. Never a particularly athletic QB but definitely one of the most respected and top field generals in the whole history of the game.
where is Otto Graham 10 Championship Games and winning 7
Amen, brother. The real GOAT.
Different game
@@paulclancy789 no same game football
I sadly get why Sammy Baugh was left off of the list, but leaving off Otto Graham is s crime.
You must be a Bears fan.
Terry Bradshaw belongs in the top ten somewhere in the mix, you cannot ignore 4 superbowl wins among the other aspects of his career.
He was great, but he also had the best supporting cast of any QB ever.
@gattodiossa6227 i am 72 and remember those pittsburgh years. it should be remembered that even though the league cracked down on quarterback injuries, big ben, peyton manning, rogers, and everyone else, including mahomes has played under the same rules. when you look at the two decades of work, where brady would have been inducted into the hall of fame in either decade; when you consider that often he did not have the best players on his teams, when like montana, again and again he had to carry the team on his shoulders for a comeback win; the 'will of the wisp' has carried himself rather well. i wonder how big ben, rogers, and mahomes would fare in the 70's and 80's. now to terry bradshaw. he might make my top ten. he was an undervalued quarterback in that he had a bevy of hall of famers in front of him. the steel curtain was one of the best in football, if not the best of all time. the quarterback could be badly injured in that era, but you had to get to him first. bradshaw could throw that biscuit. he did his job. he made it count when it was important to do so. would he have brady's career or stats in the last 20 years? would he have won 7 superbowls? brady benefited from a bad division, but brady had to show up when it counted the most, and he did. would bradshaw have won 6 superbowls with belichek? maybe ..... would montana have won 6? maybe. would stabauch? i believe bradshaw is overlooked because of how good and powerful those pittsburgh teams were. i never was a fan of favre. i would put bradshaw in his spot. otherwise i put bradshaw in the top 15 because 'we will never know.'
@@edwardjjanzen23 Bradshaw belongs in top ten. Any great passer could have played for Belichick. Staubach is definitely top ten. Steve Young is my #1.
@@JoeKoOhNo gotta give u a thumbs down when you were giving #1 to steve young. wow! he was no joe montana. no one puts steve young in the top ten. give me a link that states otherwise, my friend.
@@edwardjjanzen23 Going to have to give you the finger. Don't care what the ignorant think. Steve Young: #1 rated passer 6 times. He's #1 all-time .Montana & Brady? Only rated #1, twice. Steve Young: #6 total rushing yards in career. Montana & Brady? Not in top ten Steve Young: #2 rushing TDs career Montana & Brady: not in top ten.
Young: 64.3 per cent completion avg,. Montana: 63.2. Young: 8.0 yds per completion avg; Montana 7.5. Young career QB rating: 96.8; Montana: 92.3. So, Young was the better passer and runner. Obviously, Montana was no Steve Young.
Bart Starr? In an era when the quarterback was the game manager. He became the one who cemented dynasty. Winning the first two Super Bowls and MVP in both.
Agree completely! It's a different game now, but in the days of Unitas and Starr, the QBs truly led.
And I believe one N F L Title before Super Bowls. Maybe 2. Touchdown on the Frozen Tundra.
It's rare that you see Starr on these top ten lists. I would have him on my top ten list. A 9 and 1 playoff record speaks volumes for me about how great of a Q.B. he was.
@@davidwadsworth8982 He had 3 NFL titles before the Superbowls.
@@cleanestbestpleasure14 Serious I thank you for correcting me,I though it was 2. hat gives him 5 titles. When teams could play Defense and Qb's were fair game.
Favre and Rodgers aren't even the best Packers QB of all-time, that accolade belongs to Bart Starr. Also, what about Otto Graham, a 10 year career, where he reached the Championship game every season, and won 7 titles.
If they never played on TV they never existed. Sammy Baugh, led the league in passing, punting, and interceptions at one time or another.
Same year ! That is a RECORD that will NEVER come close to being set again ? Love Unitas , Fouts , Marino . But, this is the man that CHANGED passing for the NFL at that time !
And Sonny Jurgensen, one of the finest long passers/gunslingers in the game's history.
There are too many great ones to name a top 10. Maybe a top 20 or 25 would get them all in.
Geez, Thank You So Very Much for not being the only guy (besides me) who knows that. How good would today's QB's be if they had to play DB instead of sitting on the sidelines?
Please don't get too big on 'Gunslingers'. Favre was a gunslinger, he won one championship, and the kick returner was the MVP. In the playoffs, gunslingers tend to throw interceptions. @@markfrommaryland3825
Terry Bradshaw won 4 Superbowls and don't even get an honorable mention? Don't quit your day job Sir
Carried chill out dude had 2 more TDs than picks he’d be average if it wasn’t for the curtain
Needs to go to hairclub for men Opppppps women
@@Profeex22 Wrong. He was entirely responsible for two Super Bowl victories and held Super Bowl passing records for years. Steelers were losing when Bradshaw threw Immaculate Reception that won the game. If you think anyone could have completed that pass, you don't know how to throw a football.
@@JoeKoOhNo dude okay Franco made the catch. Iykyk, the guys average stay mad it looks good on you
@@Profeex22 Like I said, you don't know how to throw a football. Stupidity looks exemplary on you.
Top QBs
1)Brady
2)Montana
3)Elway
4)Favre
5)Manning
6)Staubach
7)Young
8) Aikmen
9) Marino
10) Bradshaw/Starr/Namath/Unitas
Starr and unitas over elwey and aikman
Time and again, history forgets. Fran Tarkenton was a marvel.
Who?????? Never heared of him
Yes, when he retired he dam near owned every record in the book.
He held the passing yardage record for 19 years and his scrambling was ahead of its time and now everyone wants a mobile QB.
@@goeast12 what hurt Fran was he never won a Super Bowl !
If you use the REAL GOAT" scoring system that measures how far above average all quarterbacks were among the quarterbacks in their own era, Tarkenton is the best quarterback of all time. #2 Peyton Manning #3 Drew Brees #4 Johnny Unitas and #5 Rodgers. #6 Y. A. Tittle #7 Tom Brady #8 Staubach #9 Steve Young #10 Dan Fouts #11 Norm Van Brocklin #12 Dan Marino #13 Joe Montana. These 13 IMO deserve a special wing in the Hall of Fame. It is a long drop in the scoring down to Sonny Jurgensen at #14
Anyone ever heard of Otto Graham? No? That’s sad. The Real GOAT.
yep 7 championships in 10 seasons,pretty darn good
maybe in AAFL ... NFL numbers were average. - especially by todays standards
@@csnide6702 ottos impact was so important that it forced the NFL TO EXPAND to 3 additional teams from the AAFL ,colts, 49ers, Browns. He also forced the Rams out of Cleveland even after the Rams won The NFL TITLE there. Ottos also was beating NFL TEAMS while with the AAFL BROWNS. PAPA BEAR HALLES WAS SMART BUISNESS MAN to do all the things he did to make the NFL YOU KIDS WATCH TODAY.
@@markkramer487 I'm not saying he wasn't good -especially for that time.... but the competition he was playing against wasn't that great.
@@csnide6702 that's a very arogant statement. The game was much tuffer at that time then it is today. The rules of the NFL of today are so players can play more games to make money, so the contact is not as brutal. They played in mud,ran across baseball in fields of hard dirt, helmets were weak, no face masks. Please stop degrading early football that created this great league. Otto should be up there with Tom Brady and if you don't like that opinion then your a sore looser.
The rules of earlier eras were so greatly different and yet have had a tremendous effect on the passing stats. So much so that we are basically comparing apples and oranges. Instead of greatest of all time, we should just focus on greatest of each era. One thing for sure is the Quarterbacks of the 1930s thru the mid 70s had it a lot tougher.
No doubt 👍
Well, there was no one who thought passing would work.
You realize, there was a tone when no one had ever “gone long?”
I agree. I dislike Brady because he's is really good and im salty. BUT, if Brady was to play back when Montana played.....Brady would be crying on the ground like a little bitch..
I agree but the era should include the 80s because coaches still ran the ball a heck of a lot more than passing. Put Marino or Elway in today's offenses and they'd have 6000 yards and 40 tds a season.
I was looking for this comment! You are spot on, you can barely touch qb’s now without getting a penalty.
Otto Graham was QB1 in Cleveland for ten seasons and they played for a title ten times! They won 7. He's the GOAT.
Drew Brees never gets the respect he deserves.
Brees finished with a total of 80,358 passing yards and 571 touchdowns. He ranks first in NFL history in career yards passing and second in touchdown passes, only behind Tom Brady. He holds the record for most consecutive games with a touchdown pass (54). He is also the only player with multiple 5,000-yard passing seasons (5 of the league's 14) and holds the record for most 300+ passing games (123)
Brees also holds the records for most career completions (7,142 completions) as well as best career completion percentage (67.7 percent). He holds the best completion percentage in a single season (74.4 percent), as well as the 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 7th and 9th all-time spots on that list. No one else on this list even shows up until Joe Montana at 16th.
He's the most accurate QB in history, ranks 1st all-time in yards and 2nd all-time in TD's - but he's only 6th on this list? C'mon. Give me the Manning argument that beats that.
@Ellis_Hugh
Drew Brees 1 superbowl only and 0 league mvps in 19 seasons never been best Quarterback in league no all decade teams and just played long enough to get longevity stats he's not top 6 best Quarterbacks ever
Greatsat Quarterbacks all time
1. Tom Brady
2. Joe Montana
3. Patrick Mahomes
4. Peyton Manning
5. John Elway
Patrick Mahomes already better Quarterback then Drew Brees
Rings
Mahomes 2 ✔️
Brees 1
Superbowl Mvps
Mahomes 2✔️
Brees 1
League Mvps
Mahomes 2✔️
Brees 0
Passer rating
Mahomes 105.7✔️ (1st all time/
Brees 98.7
Yards per game passing
Mahomes 303.0✔️ (1st all time)
Brees 280.0
Passer rating playoffs
Mahomes 107.4✔️ (1st all time)
Brees 97.1
Patrick Mahomes stronger arm, more mobile, better playmaker, better deep ball thrower, and better Quarterback then Drew Brees
Drew Brees a weak arm dome system Quarterback
What does Drew Brees have over Patrick Mahomes other then playing longer time
Drew Brees 1 superbowl only and 0 league mvps in 19 seasons never been best Quarterback in league no all decade teams and just played long enough to get longevity stats he's not top 6 best Quarterbacks ever
Greatsat Quarterbacks all time
1. Tom Brady
2. Joe Montana
3. Patrick Mahomes
4. Peyton Manning
5. John Elway
Patrick Mahomes already better Quarterback then Drew Brees
Rings
Mahomes 2 ✔️
Brees 1
Superbowl Mvps
Mahomes 2✔️
Brees 1
League Mvps
Mahomes 2✔️
Brees 0
Passer rating
Mahomes 105.7✔️ (1st all time/
Brees 98.7
Yards per game passing
Mahomes 303.0✔️ (1st all time)
Brees 280.0
Passer rating playoffs
Mahomes 107.4✔️ (1st all time)
Brees 97.1
Patrick Mahomes stronger arm, more mobile, better playmaker, better deep ball thrower, and better Quarterback then Drew Brees
Drew Brees a weak arm dome system Quarterback
What does Drew Brees have over Patrick Mahomes other then playing longer time
Bart Starr won three championships in a row. In a row.
no they won 5 championships in a row, three super bowls. remember before it was called the super bowl. in response to a toy the super ball
It's debatable, but would The Beatles have scored as often as they did if Bart hadn't given them such great field position?
The "Beatles"?@@billboyle1588
How is Kenny the snake stabler not on this list?
Three straight NFL titles 1965-67, won the first two Super Bowls named MVP in both, 9-1 record in the playoffs! Bart Starr anyone?
you are right ,he was great.giant fan i hated him
Nope
Bart Starr should be top 10 anything as a QB@
I’d take Steve Young over Favre or Rodgers. Otto Graham didn’t get his due either. Other than that, pretty good list. 11-20?
Looks like we may have to do 11-20!
Otto Graham played in the championship game--whether AAFC or NFL--every season of his career, and won 7 out of the 10 of them.
These computer AI voiceovers ARE not worth listening to.. But ya'll do.
@@robertlevine2827
Otto Graham 3 NFL Championships and that's what we ranking NFL Quarterbacks not AAFC
Steve Young is #1.. Rodgers belongs in top ten. Favre, Peyton, Elway, Marino do not.
Jim Kelly of Buffalo Bills was another great quarterback that never got his super bowl ring
Tarkington, Bradshaw, and Aikman would be on my list. Idk why Bradshaw gets no respect.
Booth Tarkington was a novelist-you mean Fran Tarkenton
@@jerrygoldfarb7739 Who's she?
Bradshaw got rings because of the Steel Curtain. Aikman was a lockbox. Tarkenton would be in the top 20.
I'm right there with you .. I was sitting here thinking I'm either a delusional cowboys fan. Or Troy Aikman was one of the best to do it and probably the most accurate
@paulschumann560 and your right Bradshaw is far underrated
I am 72 years old, have watched football for many years, great job compiling this list! Good to see the old guys on the list too!
Thanks, Earl!
Montana is the Best QB if all time. You can’t call a known cheater the Best
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you sound butt hurt lol. funny you say that as the balls were properly inflated in that game in the second half and actually beat em worse than the first half. oh ya they were properly inflated for the super bowl too which is bradys second best second half 4th qtr in the super bowl 😮
Get a life
What a moronic comment
Joe Montana cheated then since WRs of 49ers admitted to sticker gloves
Goat 🐐 Brady 7 rings, 5 superbowl mvps surpassed Montana 4 rings, 3 superbowl mvps
Greatest Quarterbacks all time
1. Tom Brady
2. Joe Montana
3. Patrick Mahomes
4. Peyton Manning
5. John Elway
Big Ben holds 5th passing 8th competitions and 5th in touchdowns for all time. Do your homework
I put montana at number 1 because he missed 8 starts in 1986 season and missed entire 1991 season and did not start a game in 1992 at all because of torn elbow and he was knocked out of 3 playoff games too. For brady he played 7 full seasons more than joe retiring at 45 while montana retired at 38. Plus bradys numbers are inflated because the league does not let the pass defenses play like you can't go high or low on brady, cannot hit him anywhere with your helmet or land on him with your full weight . These rules made the passing defenses facing brady to get worn down early plus he benefited from the defenses could not go high on his receivers when the ball got there. Joe never had any of these protections as a qb, and I rest my case.
You nailed it, Joe played in a era when the defense,s didn’t have any rules , Brady wouldn’t have played near aslong with the defense,s that joe had to endure
THREE less Super Bowl wins. End of discussion. And I don't like Brady.
@@andrethegiant2877 No not quite the end. How about the THREE more Super Bowl losses? And if Montana was the 49er QB in '94 season, he'd have won that one too.
@@stevesilva2780 Proving my point for me. He made it to TEN total SBs. On top of that holds every relevant QB passing record.
@@andrethegiant2877 Yeah, and his record is 7 - 3. I'm saying by all rights Montana would have been 5 - 0. (Siefert went with Young but Montana was still the better QB, and should have remained in that roll.)
No Bart Starr? No Otto Graham? No way.
What's your Top 10?
Otto Graham not on the list??????
Didn't make this one.
Again for everybody: “Every QB had to adapt and learn to operate in the era in which they found themselves in. The two QB’s that rise to the top in my mind are Tom Brady and Bart Star. Brady was a 7 time Super Bowl champion over an 21 year career, and Bart Star was a 5 time NFL champion and a 2 time Super Bowl champion over a 15 year career. Both adapted to a changing league well enough to be a champion no matter how the league presented itself.”
If your just talking Championships, Otto Graham went to 10 straight NFL
Championships and won 7 of them. Of course Paul Brown had a
lot to with it too.
@@loringjohnson7797 Yep. It’s a team and the coach is part of that.
Well said.
It is a team game, quarterbacks don't win championships. Both Starr's and Brady's teams were led by the defenses. For Bart that was true every year and for Tom all but two. Brady's teams had the luxury of 17 top 10 defenses which is more than twice as many as any other quarterback in history.
@@bryanjones4444 Then kudos to Belichick for that. I don’t know any SB winning team that didn’t have a defense that came through in big moments. In the patriots championships and defeats the plays that stand out are on both sides of the ball.. But I can’t agree with you that QB’s don’t win championships. QB’s making plays when they need to make them win championships too.
Otto Graham revolutionized the forward pass.
That was Sammy Baugh 20 years earlier.
Terry Bradshaw? he won a bunch of superbowls and had many times where he just muscled it thru...
.Brett Farve....?
Best defenses of all time. Only had to put up 20 points to win 1 time in any of his 4 Super Bowl games. Defenses were definitely the main reason for his rings, not Terry.
He didnt win those games. The defense won those games
@@richardeverson6994 4-0 in super bowls and called his own plays
Everyone knows…defense wins superbowls. ☺️
In no particular order:
- Tom Brady
- Peyton Manning
- Aaron Rodgers
- Drew Brees
- Joe Montana
- Roger Staubach
- Otto Graham
- Johnny Unitas
- Patrick Mahomes
- Dan Marino
Honorable Mention:
- Brett Favre
- John Elway
- Steve Young
- Fran Tarkenton
- Ben Roethlisberger
Any list of great QB's without Otto Graham is pure B.S.
First time I've ever seen a list like this that didn't include Otto Graham. Why?
Didn't make the writers Top 10.
The writers top 10? Now there is the source of all things football@@thesportingblog23
@@thesportingblog23 I can't believe there are that many stupid know-nothing writers.
No Terry Bradshaw on the list. I thought for sure he would’ve been on.
Good list, but Dan Fouts should always get at least an honorable mention. The stuff the Air Coryell offense was doing over 40 years ago set the table for what teams did much later.
And it [ WAS ] this Dan that changed the NFL into a passing league , NOT Marino ! Fouts was doing it at least 5 years before Marino was even in the NFL ?
Fouts was the best QB to never go to the Superbowl. If the 80 AFC Championship game was in San Diego, the Chargers would have won.
@@philipbiggs5883if me aunty had bollocks she'd be my uncle
Damn fuckin' right RE: Dan Fouts. BTW; Air Coryell = The ORIGINAL West Coast Offense. If my memory serves me correctly; San Diego's on the WEST COAST!!!!! There4; I stand by what I've said RE: The Air Coryell Offense.
@@philipbiggs5883 W/all due respect; I believe that u r actually alluding 2 the 1981 AFC Championship Game vs. the Bengals (the "-59 WC" Game). 1980 was The Oakland Raiders.
Otto Graham should be in this list, as well as his statistics mentioned. You obviously did not do you homework.
Obviously, Ronald, we spent ages having someone write and research a piece, then spent days putting together footage but Ron thinks we didn't do any research 😐
Sammy Baugh, Sid Luckman - a different era and a different game, but those guys had it. And they had to play offense and defense. Let today's QB's try to go both ways and that will certainly thin the ranks.
Sammy Baugh once lead the lead in both TD passes as a QB and interceptions as a DB in the same season
That's awesome.
Sammy, Sid, Otto Graham…kids nowadays don’t give a damn about history.
@@MBubbaBlumeTheBeardofModesty Sadly so.
I think that might be a good argument for who the better 'football player' might be, but NOT the best QB, which is the topic of this video.
Bart Starr, not on this list? What a joke. 5 titles. Greatness is about leadership and winning, not just statistics.❤
In this 'new era' list, I sure wasn't expecting to see my boyhood hero, Johnny Unitas. Very cool. It's like someone below said, and I agree. There should be a list for each era or decade. But thank you for this one. A '70s list would have to include Dan Marino.
Marino played in the 80's and 90's
Like you, Unitas was my boyhood hero when growing up, learning the game of football from my dad. Unitas is on the list, if you ask me, because his influence on the game is timeless. He was a masterful field general - one of the best to ever play.
Records are meant to be broken, but somehow, I think Brady's accomplishments will stand the test of time - at least in my lifetime.
IDK for instance Matt Ryan was on a pace take most of Brady's records and he would have done it in less time had he kept playing. If Mahomes is able to play 19 years he will likely pass what Tom did in 22 years. Someone will do it. Brees and Manning would be higher if not for the late career injuries.
As a Brady fan, I would like to mention the other 4 time SB champ Terry Bradshaw ! I think he should rank in top 5 somewhere.
I almost forgot another one of my all time favorites ... Bart Starr !!! Top 6 or 7 for sure !!!
Terry Bradshaw never lost a Super Bowl and was 4-0 like Montana.
He easily should’ve been at least mentioned or tied for second with Montana
I also noticed some great QBs not even mentioned such as Bart Starr for the Green Bay Packers for all their NFL Championships before the Super Bowl was arranged. Then he went and won those first two Super Bowls.
How he’s left out of this list is incredulous.
I know Joe Namath didn’t have the the best overall stats but he virtually was the QB / player that initiated the merging of the two leagues AFL / NFL. AND…. Namath orchestrated the greatest upset in Super Bowl history by beating the then great Baltimore Colts that set in motion the two league merger into the now one NFL.
Lenny Dawson sealed the deal the next year by upsetting the powerful Minnesota Vikings in
SB 4.
How many people are you dropping out to fit these 4 in? They don't all fit into 10.
Nope nada
Totally agree
Namath had horrendous stats. You are right, the upset, prediction, fur coats and commercials got him in the Hall. His performance in the Super Bowl had little to do with the win, Matt Snell and the Jet Defense won that game. Namath had a strong arm, no knees and was mostly a bad decision maker. He had maybe three good seasons. I would take a dozen QBs just from his era over him.
I've always felt that people have always overrated Montana a bit. Yes he won 4 SBs, etc, but so did Bradshaw. It takes more than just the QB to win a SB. It takes all the players and coaches.
Get your facts straight, Unitas did not win a Super Bowl in 1970
A pretty good list there could be some honorable mention like Terry Bradshaw , Troy Aikman,Ben Roethlisberger and Joe Namath i strongly agree with the top three
Big Ben is top 6 easy
Joe Namath's stats are abysmal
but Namath was so injured he didn't play that long.
While Namath may have been "important" because of Super Bowl III, he was mediocre for most of his career. Namath was 25 at that game. Name me one other big game he won after that.
@@carseye1219 Ummmm????
Brady deserves number 1, but Bart Starr should be on the list!
Fran Tarkington, And I'm a Packers fan.
Tarkenton.n
Tarkenton
Appreciated! Sincerely, a Vikings fan.
You missed one of the best. Fran Tarkenton of the Vikes and the Giants, Before he retired he owned all of the records until that time. Also he invented tie ART of scrambling. No supere bowls but no other QB was as feared. Thanks
Oh Joe Kapp was the losing QB, not Tarkenton, when Vikings lost their 1st SB. Tarkenton then lost 3 SBs. We, Patriots, got saddled with Joe Kapp the following season (1970), he was terrible!!!
Otto Graham.,not mentioned?? 7 championship in 10 years??? Nothing!!!!!!
Feel fre to post your Top 10 and we'll see if we can make a video from it
Otto Graham 3 NFL championships only ànd that league his other titles came from another league AAFC
y'all need to do y'all research before y'all try to twist a false narrative lol
We talking greatest NFL Quarterbacks
Greateat Quarterbacks all the NFL
1. Tom Brady
2. Joe Montana
3. Patrick Mahomes
4. Peyton Manning
5. John Elway
No Jim Otto? Went to the Championship game every year (10 yrs) he played
OOps wrong Otto Should have been Otto Graham
Sammy Baugh=GOAT
1st qb inducted into HOF
Father of the modern passing game
This list is a joke 😅
Sammy Baugh no where near goat 🤣🤣🤣
Just because you first to do something don't make you goat
Goat 🐐 Brady 7 rings, 5 superbowl mvps, 627 touchdown passes and 88 touchdown passes playoffs and 15 game winning drives playoffs
@@TerryLanda-fj9iv They didn't keep the stats needed to fully analyze Sammy's career at the time that he played, but he is definitely top 5 and very likely the GOAT.
1. No such thing. Can't be the best of all time unless you played all time. It surprises me none that most of these guys played in the era where rules (and rules enforcement) were customized to PROMOTE passing offense.
Like most millennials, you have next to no knowledge or appreciation of anything before you were born. Any all-time QB list that doesn't include Otto Graham is a complete and absolute joke. I'm amazed you were even able to consider Johnny Unitas.
Go look him up. (shaking my head in disgust)
And Dan Marino was a great PASSER... not a great quarterback. Don Shula was able to win championships with 2 different teams but couldn't win one with Marino. That says a lot.
How on earth do you know the author is a millennial? Which he isn't btw
millennial or not I have to agree with @JKRDBA any list that does not include Otto Graham is suspect.
Otto Graham: 7 titles in 10 years. The real GOAT.
First off, I didn't say or even presume anyone was a millenial. I do stand on the statement that 'most' millenials know little (and care less) about anything before they were born. This post exemplifies 'recency bias' and a 'passing' bias in the extreme.
There is actually more to playing QB (and a truly crazy idea... FOOTBALL) than throwing the ball.
Now that's not only true about millenials but is particularly true about young people irrespective of any labels.
I hated Terry Bradshaw, but I wouldn't let Dan Marino carry his jock. And for me Archie Manning was better than both Peyton and Eli. Unfortunately, the teams he was on were lousy.
How about Dan Fouts, Jim Plunkett, Warren Moon, Sammy Baugh, or Fran Tarkenton to name just a few.
@@JKRDBA "Like most millennials, you have next to no knowledge or appreciation of anything before you were born" - were your exact words. You are presuming the person that wrote this is not only a millennial, but also has no knowledge or appreciation of anything. Perhaps you need to not be so mad about lists that people make and post online for fun. And also, maybe as someone who has no respect for millennials (which the author of this article is not) you might set an example by acting a little more your own age and showing others some respect.
Most of these guys played when defenses were allowed to play defense and QB's weren't "hands off". Where's Terry Bradshaw?
They also smoked 25 a day, pounder beers and did steroids.
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Yep, they smoked and pounded beers and played hungover a lot. Some guys used steroids but players are still getting caught for "PEDS" in modern football.
It's sad when golfers & baseball players are using roids, lol. Someone said that Barry Bonds' head is still growing.
If we were to read between the stat lines, shouldn’t Terry Bradshaw be on this list @ 10 above Staubach?
It's subject to debate, certainly, but view all available footage from their careers (regular season as well as playoffs/Super Bowl) and the opposite view might emerge. Plenty of reasons why. I won't list them all here, and maybe a tie at the #10 spot would be the most logical outcome of all. But if I had to choose one, I'd have to take Roger.
We all know that Bradshaw and the Steelers defeated the Cowboys head-to-head during the 70s, but judging from the stats, Terry was under much less defensive pressure. In the four times they played, Pittsburgh allowed less than half as many QB sacks as Dallas...and that's despite Staubach's ability to escape the pass rush. It's pretty impressive that he kept them close in the Super Bowls. Dallas's offensive line was solid by NFL standards, but overmatched against Pittsburgh's front four.
Besides that, despite the perception that Bradshaw "called the plays" and Staubach didn't, there are many accounts of Terry struggling to understand and remember the playbook, asking for reminders in the huddle (if it's of interest, read Preston Pearson's book, available on the Internet Archive), and finally just cranking it up and throwing...into a blanket of opposing defenders. Take a look at the pick-six he threw to Vernon Perry in the 1979-80 AFC Championship game, on which Merlin Olsen remarked, "There's no way that pass goes to anyone but Vernon Perry." And this is prime Bradshaw, not his early-career stumbles - and there are plenty of other examples. In contrast, Staubach had a much lower interception %.
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Despite the trope that Staubach relied on having his plays sent in by Tom Landry, Roger actually reworked many of the individual pass patterns in the huddle, which sounds even more intricate than just calling the play from the outset. Moreover, Landry and the QBs worked out a detailed, situational game plan early in the week, in order to practice the plays, so they'd already knew what they were going to call.
This being said, Bradshaw absolutely ranks as an all-time great and as long as the list doesn't extend beyond #10, why not a multi-way tie that also includes Bart Starr, Fran Tarkenton, and Dan Fouts? If a key criterion is impact on the game, each of them definitely bore that impact. Meanwhile, in terms of ability and performance, I'd have to put Steve Young near the top.
These assholes never put Steelers on their lists. One moron did a top ten dynasties and left the "70's" Steelers off the list. Acting like Dallas with 3 SB's in 5 seasons was phenomenal. I guess he forgot the Steelers 4 SB's in 6 seasons. The ONLY ream to win back to back twice! The NFL changed rules because of the Steelers defense. Otherwise they might have won 6 in a row.
@@stevendreifach7737Preston Pearson? You mean that malcontent the Steellers got rid of? Always whinning about not getting enough carries! We had Franco, of course you're not going to get a bunch of carries. He hated Bradshaw, and Noll! Of course you would take Roger! You're a Cowboys fan! Terry was better! Look at the winning TD pass to Swann in SB X Roger would never stand in there like that, knowing he was going to get smashed. Look at SB XIII Terry threw 5 TD passes. Without Bradshaw, even our great defense wouldn't have won those games. You need to rewatch the films!
It's a tough call but the author went with his choice... It's a debate for sure!
@@markellison1707 By Preston Pearson, I'm referring to the running back who consistently averaged 12.0+ yards per reception, and was money on third down passes. He liked Terry a lot, as do most people - they were very good friends, and spent a lot of time together off the field. What happened was that Bradshaw couldn't remember any plays to call in the red zone, and was asking around the huddle. The other offensive players were taken aback, and Pearson, as a friend, tried to talk Bradshaw through the situation. Word got back to Noll, who told Pearson to keep quiet in the huddle.
Obviously, Noll didn't want anyone to throw Terry a life preserver; they had a notoriously hostile relationship, which Bradshaw has spoken about at great length. On certain occasions, Noll, a former offensive lineman, grabbed Terry by the jersey or even the face mask as he came off the field. There were altercations. Bradshaw has stated that Noll was very abusive - other Steelers of the era disagree - and in the middle of all this conflict, Terry bypassed the Steeler organization in choosing someone to present him in Canton, which is a major ceremonial distinction. Franco was presented by Swann, who in turn was presented by Stallworth, etc. Bradshaw was presented by a longtime Cowboys announcer, Verne Lundquist, whom he hadn't even known that long.
As for Pearson, not long after Noll told him to keep quiet in the huddle, he got pulled into more tense situations because of his role as union rep when the players held a one-month preseason strike (summer of 1974). He was released and picked up by Dallas, where he undoubtedly saw more action than he would have with Pittsburgh. But you're wrong to claim he had any sort of tension with Bradshaw. As far as Noll and Bradshaw...that's a different story, but Noll had a harsh life and could seem extremely unsympathetic. .
Now, going back even further to Roger vs. Terry...if you want me to look at Super Bowl X, I think that makes my point, not yours. Dead equal in yardage (Staubach: 204 yards passing, 22 running; Bradshaw: 209 yards passing, 16 running). The difference, as I mentioned in the first post, is that Staubach was under much more pressure - he was sacked seven times, compared to two for Bradshaw. The Dallas offensive line was good, but overmatched by the Pittsburgh front four. As for your claim that Roger wouldn't stand in, well, he stayed in the game despite being sacked seven times.
Super Bowl XIII? Bradshaw threw four touchdowns, not five as you said. Staubach threw three, and a certain fourth TD was dropped by Jackie Smith. Staubach threw for 228 yards and ran for 37. Bradshaw threw for 309 and ran for minus 5. So you have a 50-yard difference. That difference stems completely from a single after-the-catch run by John Stallworth. Added to that, Bradshaw lost two fumbles (none for Staubach). Granted, Bradshaw had an MVP performance and a great game, but in both Super Bowls, the difference in QB performance is pretty much a wash.
Now that's just Super Bowls; the focus belongs on the entire season. Although it's obviously a team sport, Staubach's regular season winning percentage (which I believe is about 75%) is pretty extraordinary. I think people willingly give him credit despite his shortened career, because he spent a long time in the military, including a year overseas in Vietnam. Maybe it's too bad he didn't play a couple of additional years, but he had a lot more going on than football. That''s not to take anything away from Bradshaw, a definite All-Pro. You could just about rate them tied, and add Bart Starr, Fran Tarkenton, Dan Fouts, and Steve Young to the tie. If it's a top 10, why worry about a huge tie for the tenth spot? Nobody comes after.
Terry Bradshaw, Troy Aikman, Joe Montana all had hall of fame wide receivers on their teams. Just think if Tom Brady had a Jerry Rice, Michael Irvin, and other hall of fame wide receivers on his team he would have won more than 7super bowls .
Randy moss
thank you for including JOHNNY U. my all time favorite. he averaged 15 throws a game. now they nthrow 30 and 35 times
I would have to say Otto Graham needs to be recognized for sure I agree...Im Thankful for your inclusive Rodger Staubach but we would be remiss if we didn't at least mention the several years of service to his Country just think of the additional mark on the game...Wow ! What might have been. Also the same could be said of Warren Moon who had set so many records for years in the Canadian League before having a Great Career in the NFL... OMG.Thnx Live Long and Prosper
It should be pointed out that John Unitas called ALL of his own plays. None of the other QBs on this list did.
Apparently, Tom Brady did also.
Terry Bradshaw did also
Great point.
😜
Montana did
Where is Otto Graham more championship than Brady won division every year ni second.Was not protected by refs.
The list is just 10, but it doesn't go back beyond Unitas. Bill Kilmer comes to mind. Dan Fouts is another great. All of those QBs who played in the 50s and 60s when they weren't protected like they are today.
I’m aWashington fan! Billy Kilmer was not a ‘great QB’ . He wasn’t even the greatest qb on that era’s teams. The Hall of Famer, Sonny Jurgenson was better. Kilmer was a wing T QB in college and was mostly a runner and with San Francisco 49’s. He was a sacrificial lamb in New Orleans and was beat to hell by that expansion franchise. Watch the 1969 movie ‘Number One’ starring Carlton Heston and you will see it is Kilmer who is taking all those beatings used in the film. It was George Allen who admired his grit and resurrected his career. I am an old,old timer and actually saw this stuff.
Bill Kilmer? Skeet shooters yelled "pull" whenever he threw up one of his ducks.
You got my top 4 let’s gooooo 🐐🐐🐐
Both Farve and Rodgers played in qb passing era's, tops are Brady, Montana, Marino, Elway, Bradshaw, Brees, Staubach, Manning, Star, Kelly
Otto Graham played for the championship every year he played. He belongs before Elway
Otto Graham played in 10 championships and won 7 of them. He’s your GOAT.
Hard to argue with that either
Jim Kelly 0-4 losing record in Superbowls not top 10
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Otto Graham 3 NFL Championships so try again he's not goat of NFL
Otto Graham others championships came in a whole other league AAFC learn the difference
Greatsat Quarterbacks all time
1. Tom Brady
2. Joe Montana
3. Patrick Mahomes
4. Peyton Manning
5. John Elway
Greatest superbowl era qbs maybe someone should tell him football existed before superbowl as he included Marino he broke his own rules to get on this list
Marino couldnt get out of his own way. Way wayoverrated
When you stand on the shoulders of Giants, you look even more impressive. What about Luckman, Baugh, Graham...who transcended their position at a time when their position was largely irrelevant. RESPECT.
Sammy Baugh made the position relevant.
Also how do you not put Terry Bradshaw on the list I mean he won four super bowls not to mention to this day he is the only one to ever go back to back twice unless I'm mistaken unless it was two years between each title run but I think it was one he was pretty darn close to going five-in-a-row how do you not even put him on the list what's up with that???
Pretty good. Can't disagree with any pick. Would like to have seen Bart Starr in there somewhere but can't knock anyone off.
Gotta like Brady and Montana
This list is completely scued. Tom Brady, like Peyton Manning, competed in an era in which Quarterbacks were treated like Porcelain Dolls!! In the era of Johnny Unitas and Bart Starr, anything and everything went!! Receivers and Quarterbacks were cheap shotted with impunity. In the late Seventies the so called "Mel Blount Rule" was implemented. Defensive Backs were no longer allowed to hold a Receiver outside a five yard window. Far worse, were the Head Hunters like Jack Tatum and George Atkinson. Now, Defensive Backs are scrutinized like a bug under a microscope. Back then, every play was a targeting call!! In the days of Pittsburghs "Steel Curtain," Jack Lambert griped that Quarterbacks should be "Wearing Dresses." Now, they're treated like a China Doll collectible!! My personal list would have Joe Montana Number One. Johnny U would be a solid number two. Tom Brady would be no better than third. "The Man Named Brady" would have spent more time in a Hospital Bed than on the field in that brutal era. His career would have lasted 25 games, rather than 25 seasons. One hit like the type that the Signal Callers routinely endured in that era would have shattered Tom, like a ticking time bomb.
This is a long essay! All appreciated but do you think that these old school players would have the athletiscm to compete at the level of today's professional players?
@@thesportingblog23 Oh, yeah. Like Brady was the best athlete ever. Gimme a break! Brady is a cheater. Most of the metrics they use to make Brady #1 have to do with team success.
Snubs: Steve Young, Fran Tarkenton
not mentioning Otto Graham means you don't know history
What's your Top 10 Aristotle?
I would agree. Good selection. Good reasoning. Top 3 are definitely as you said, Brady, Montana and Manning.
Not according to lots of people in the comments!
Manning Sucked !
Brady how many sb did he lose 2. Same thing with manning a legend in
His own mind How many sb did Joe lose???? None 4-0. Tired of this brady manning crap. Mediocre at best
@@richardeverson6994 Thank you. Montana never threw an interception in a Super Bowl and never lost one. And Brady lost 3. Two To Eli and One to Nick Foles, plus Brady was a cheat.
@@richardeverson6994
Joe Montana 15 seasons means 11 times he lost and failed to win or get to superbowl including losing to Giants 15-13 over 49ers in 1990 NFC championship game
Last I checked Joe Montana didn't play only 4 seasons
Goat 🐐 Brady 7 rings, 5 superbowl mvps has surpassed Montana 4 rings, 3 superbowl mvps
I'll take 7-3 and having more rings and mvps then 4-0 and losing early in playoffs
Greatest Quarterbacks all time
1. Tom Brady
2. Joe Montana
3. Patrick Mahomes
4. Peyton Manning
5. John Elway
Graham is the greatest still hold record most yards per attempt won same amount of championships in less than 10 years guess what won an NBA championship as well Brady is tied with him took half of 50 years to do it read statistics when he retired he played for Cleveland but last game was in California they gave him a standing ovation that was Otto Graham
The number of championships a player wins does not indicate their individual greatness. If it did, Robert Horry would be considered better than Jordan.
If I were an opposing DC or defensive player, there isn't a player on this list I would want to face having to make a stop. But there are some I would rather face than others.
That said, Marino and Moon should both be considered for this list. Neither won a championship, but those guys could sling it as well as anybody who has played the game.
Moon must have been close to making anyone's Top 10.
And Moon could scramble very well. All this after tearing up the CFL winning championships and personal awards then.
How many SBs, with Patriots, did QB Brian Hoyer sit on the bench? Now he's sitting on the bench with the Raiders.
Warren Moon. Had to play about 5-6 years in the CFL at the start of his career, losing many great years. I hated that man. He always beat my team-the Blue Bombers, especially in the playoffs. Yes I respect him a lot. He was awesome in his prime and we had him in Canada.
It astounds me, that even into the late 1970s, racism didn't allow an obvious first-round draft choice like him to get picked. Disgusting.
Dan fouts, Otto graham, sonny Jorgeson, Fran tarkenton, and arguably terry bradshaw missed this list…
Who would you drop for those 5?
@@thesportingblog23 I would consider fouts and Otto for roger staubach or aaron rodgers for me, but that doesn’t mean the list is bad, just my personal preference. This type of a list would be much easier to do as a top 20 instead of top 10. Of course then you would have to select 5 more quarterbacks…
keep coming up with these Redskin QBs.
No love for sonny jurgenson?? Really??
I agree with the first two and after that they are all great any order is fine
Winning a Super Bowl Championship is not an indicator of greatness for the QB. Many great QB's never made it to the big game. It takes a great team to do that.
Any list that puts Staubach above Bradshaw is a joke. I admit it, a lot of this is opinions because you are judging from different eras but Bradshaw won 4 SB's and dropped Staubach in 2 of them. Bradshaw also called his own plays, Staubach didn't. As for Marino, I think he is overrated. Yes he has the stats, on paper he looks incredible but no championships. Now if he never had a team around him then I could understand but the first 5 years in the league he had the team. He took over a team David Woodley took to a SB, a team that should have won that SB and he never did anything with it. One SB appearance and that was it, if he had gone to 3 or 4, even if had lost them all then I could then say it was the lack of talent but that wasn't the case. I would rate Jim Kelly over Dan Marino. I would also take Aikman over Rodgers but I admit that is solely based on Championships. I just feel that Aikman won 3 and he belongs where I think Rodgers ( I admit it, I think he's overrated too) doesn't.
It's all opinions... It's a list of someone's opinion. There is no right answer.
What ignorance.
Woodley went to the Super Bowl with the #1 ranked defense.
Marino went there with the #19 defense, and that defense got way worse as Marino's career progressed.
Bradshaw had about 4 inept seasons, before he turned it around permanently in 75.
In 74, as the Steelers won their first title, Terry was benched and had a bad season.
Staubach never had a pair of receivers that Terry had.
Staubach had a +44 TD to INT ratio, and Bradshaw was +2.
Net Yards per Attempt is the stat the best measures a QB's effectiveness.
Staubach's was much better than Bradshaw.
Roger led the league in passing 4 times.
By every metric Staubach was better.
Staubach had 3 defensive hall of famers alongside him Lilly, Renfro, and Randy White. And they never played together.
Bradshaw??????
That's why you can't say rings is the ultimate arbiter of greatness as a QB.
Is Eli Manning a better player than Dan Marino cause he has 2 and Marino has none?
A ridiculous statement.
That philosophy is dumb.
i love bradshaw but im okayee with staubach over bradshaw// bradshaws team was stacked, particularly the first two super years the defense was dominating like 85 bears-- now staubach lost head to head and i get that but use the eyeball test--- emmit had better numbers than barry sanders,,,,, who are yo picking as yr RB for one season, you are picking barry because emmitts team was stacked, and yr simple eyeball test tells u barry was about as elusive as they ever made a human being
@@3stacksofHighSociety that exact argument of Eli over Marino was made by someone else in the comments somewhere. Aikman too.
@thesportingblog23 A great defense can win with an average or below average QB, the 2000 Ravens and 2002 Bucs, being exhibit A.
How often has a great QB won with a bad defense?
Montana won his first 3 playoff games, all while his defense gave up more than 17 points.
After that first title, Montana never won a playoff game for the Niners when his team gave up 17 points.
Not once.
The 91 Eagles, are the forgotten all time great defense.
They didn't win the Super Bowl, they didn't even make the playoffs.
Cunningham was hurt in the opening game, and while they had the corpses of Jim McMahon and Jeff Kemp at QB, they managed to win 10 games in the powerful NFC East.
SEVEN teams in the NFC won at least 10 games that year.
It was unfortunate that we didn't get to see that defense go to work against a playoff offensive team.
Great QB's and great defenses sort of go hand in hand.
I personally don’t like to compare players from different eras because the game revolves and change in fact the modern era of quarterbacks are statistically much better between Brady rogers and manning and breeze
What about Otto Graham?
There has never been a quarterback better than Joe Montana.Period.
Joe was a super accurate QB with that West coast short throw offense. He and Brees also were the best defense readers they rarely went to the wrong guy. another great reader is Mahomes. Still young but if that guy stays healthy he's gonna have a shitpot fulla records. we also gotta remember that Brady played until he was 45 AND had great receivers, coaches, OL AND the rules prevented the bad guys from killing him. No mention of Bradshaw and why was Staubach even in there? No Fouts, either I don't get it.
When you talk about Johnny Unitas, holding a record for 52 years, you must have an asterix nearby since he only played 12 game seasons. Of course his record was beaten by quarterbacks who play 16 games per season. Consecutive starts?
Unitas played 14-game seasons for a good part of his career.
Same concept as Babe Ruth in baseball. Adjusted for games per season he would rate even higher.
That's a great point. now They play 17, don't they? yeah these are not orange to orange record keepings.
What record did Unitas hold for 52 years?
Yo cannot leave out some of the older QB's who built the league
Elway #1 dude pulled Broncos into 3 Super Bowls practically alone… other 2 he had a team. Odd ai video sez ppl questioned accuracy lol
I'd like to know which text-to-speech software you used, it's very good and I'd buy it
The producer has a whole list of you want the details.
Joe Montana is always and will always be number 1 he never lost a Super Bowl never threw a interception in the super-bowl and highest quarterback rating over 150. Brady had a better team every year with belichick also had many superbowl got lucky to win he should of been not 7-3 but 6-4 or 5-5 aorry kiddooo
Brady benefitted from the illegal taping of defensive coaches signals and team practices. Belichick was fined $500,000. The Patriots were fined $250,000 and stripped of their 2008 1st round draft pick. Brady ordered the footballs deflated for the AFC Championship game in 2014. Brady was suspended for 4 games and the Patriots were fined a million dollars. The U.S. Second Circuit Court of Appeals upheld Brady's suspension. He legally fought it and lost and again the Patriots were stripped of 2 draft picks. Brady played in the cheap yardage, concussion era. He benefitted from the tuck rule. A cheater can't be the GOAT.
The entire NFL was on steroids in the 90s-00s - are they all null and void too?
@@thesportingblog23 Brady cheated....twice. He lost to Eli Manning in the Super Bowl....twice. He lost to back up Nick Foles. Malcolm Butler saved Brady from a Super Bowl loss to Seattle. These are historical facts, and they make Brady less distinguished than some other QB's, on your list. Other guys did it with less failure and more dominance. Facts are facts. Don't even know why you brought up the steroid thing, no way you can factually state ''the entire NFL was on steroids.''
@@kennyo6582funny how you bring up malcolm butler as he didnt play against the eagles in the game brady threw for over 500 yards yet you blame brady for the lose. btw brady and the pats were leading both super bowls when he left the field to eli and giants only to have a hail mary chance left.
@@BrianK-zz4fk that's true, sir. he still lost to the Giants twice and Malcolm Butler did save him a SB loss. all I am saying is he is not the GOAT for the reasons I explained. I actually have Brady at #2. Montana at #1. Montana was just better and He had no losses in Super Bowl's and holds the record for most points scored in a Super Bowl @ 55. No defensive TD's or Field Goals. Montana had 8 scoring drives in SB 24. Never threw a pick in 4 SB's. Montana was better, never had to cheat and never suspended.
@@kennyo6582 so having more super bowl wins than any nfl franchise doesnt matter 😂
YA Tittle, Bart Starr, Sonny Jergenson, Joe Namath, Warren Moon, Fran Tarkenton
Thanks for mentioning Warren Moon. Won 5 Grey Cups in Canada, when no NFL drafted him.
Brady is unbelievable. He's the greatest to ever play
Yeah, but when they got to him he crumbled just like anybody else. The Patriots were not an interesting team to watch
Staubach should be higher. The thing most people that aren't baby boomers is that there was mandatory military service. Roger went to the U.S. Naval academy and then was in the U.S. Navy from 1965-1969. Those years are arguable the most productive. If he would not have had military service. His career would have been longer and had much greater stats. A guy should not be penalized for doing what less than one percent of NFL players can do. That is graduate from one of the U.S. Military Academies where they have to maintain a specific weight. Then leave the game completely for 4 years and come back to be a star.
His navy time included a Viet Nam tour.
Number 1 qb in nfl history in my opinion is John elway.
This list should be split in 2 parts. QB's who played their prime in the 20th century and those who played theirs in the 21st.
agree, but I would go pre 1975 or so-NFL was already pass happy towards end of 20th century
Troy Aikman won 3 super bowls and was better than some named.
Tell me in 15 years how well this holds up
1. Tom Brady
2. Patrick Mahomes
3. Joe Montana
4. Peyton Manning
5. Aaron Rodgers
6. Joe Burrow
7. Dan Marino
8. Josh Allen
9. John Elway
10. Brett Favre
Not sure we'll be here in 15 years but if so I'll let you know 🤝
That's a fake list since it's not 15 years down line so you can remove it
Greateat Quarterbacks all time today
1. Tom Brady
2. Joe Montana
3. Patrick Mahomes
4. Peyton Manning
5. John Elway
To be fair to all great qbs u can't compare 60s to 70s and 80s to 90s the NFL has evolved into a pass happy league so if u take stats as total rating of greatest u are wrong doing. Comparing Staubach and Bradshaw to John Elway or Drew Brees just wrong different eras of NFL.
Still, it's just for fun!
Am I the only one that will speak up for Jim Kelly? He was pretty good too.
No doubt
brady and montana. the 2 best ever.
Absolutely!!
QB's playing in different eras cannot be compared.
otto graham. if yr younger, google, should be 2 behind brady and possibly 1. thank me later
HOW LAME at 14:40 talking about Joe Montana they show so generic QB in KC Chiefs wearing #11.............Montana wore #19 in KC. Montana is the best QB of all time, brady played in an era where QB were treating like fine China, better not hit the QB or a 15 yard roughing the wimp penalty.
It's not the players fault they play to the rules. He can't time travel as well
@@thesportingblog23 Wow, a player can't time travel, brilliant observation.
Nice picture of #11 while talking about Montana at KC, hint we wore #19.
You need to work on your content
Montana never lobbied the refs to throw a flag until fragile fine china brady.
@@stevenbaer9061 I don't need to do anything. If you don't like someone's opinion on a game that's fine, but we're allowed to post video just like you are. You can do it if you try.
@@thesportingblog23 Your opinion is fine, as is mine.
It's a matter of opinion. Everyone has their own top ten.
Don't you know its RUclips so you're not allowed an opinion. The only place you are allowed an opinion is in your mind, in silence and even then don't think about it very loud. Opinion police are watching!
@@thesportingblog23 Hahahahaha!! Good one
Otto along with Unitas & Brady are definitely among toe top 5.
Yep, the great Johnny U. He was the man.. Never a particularly athletic QB but definitely one of the most respected and top field generals in the whole history of the game.