NECA Toys TMNT Jim Lawson Figure 4-Pack Review | Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
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Welcome to my in-depth review of the NECA Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Jim Lawson figures! Join us as we delve into this remarkable line of action figures, capturing the unique art style and vision of acclaimed TMNT artist Jim Lawson. From Leonardo, Michelangelo, Donatello, and Raphael to their allies and adversaries, these figures bring Lawson's iconic comic book illustrations to life.
In this comprehensive review, we examine each figure's sculpting, paintwork, articulation, and overall design, highlighting the attention to detail that makes these figures stand out. With a focus on capturing the essence of Lawson's illustrations, these figures boast vibrant colors, intricate sculpting, and dynamic poses that will impress any TMNT fan or collector.
We discuss the packaging, accessories, and pose-ability of each figure, allowing you to make an informed decision before adding them to your collection. The NECA Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Jim Lawson figures offer a unique opportunity to own a piece of TMNT history and celebrate the contributions of this influential artist.
Join the conversation in the comments section, and let us know your thoughts on these figures and their representation of Jim Lawson's artwork.
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So, what's your favorite iteration of the heroes in a half shell?
Such a hard question. I love how the Turtles, like Batman can be written in a serious or more goofy tone and they all work. It did blow my mind in the early 90's when I discovered the original comics and how crazy different it was from the cartoon.
There isn't really a version I say I dislike, to be honest. I'm not a big fan of "The Last Ronin" just because it felt overly dark.
2012 turtles are my childhood
@@vriderch1360turtles are supposed to be overly dark. 🤣
I've always been partial to the original Mirage Turtles from the first 10 issues of the original comic series. I also really like the post apocalyptic future Turtles in the 3 episodes of season 5 of the 2012 show (Wasteland Warrior, Impossible Desert, Carmageddon) that is essentially the series finale of the 2012 show. I also really like the Last Ronin because of how dark it is.
Dude you are a living legend for realizing that THAT was Michelangelo from those initials bc I was just as confused and was hoping it was him because of that smile lol .
Haha! I saw somewhere on Twitter that the initials might be under the heads, so I gave it a look and was so happy to see them and confirm my suspicions. They seemed wrong the second I opened that flap.
@@Pixel-dan Yeah, and to better differentiate Raph and Mikey, his belt and kneepads are all scratched up, like his shell, meanwhile Mikey hardly has any.
Glad to see I’m not alone in recognizing that these are based on Eastman’s pencils and Laird’s inks, a reversal of the original NECA Mirage TMNT. Jim Lawson’s work is similar but was based on this style.
Yeah, calling these Lawson is false. If you are copying another person's style, it doesn't make it yours. These are Eastman's turtles. Maybe it takes an actual artist to understand and see the difference but that's how it is.
I addressed this in the video.
@@truerc They look like early lawson to me, later lawson got more angular but these are fosho Lawson
I’ve mentioned this on a couple other reviews but these remind me heavily of the 2003 TMNT designs, and I think that’s why I like these so much because that show’s style is very similar to these particular comic turtles.
Oh! That's interesting!
I'm getting the DVD!
For me these figures have almost ideal iconic look. Some doubt about the same red masks for all four brothers but the anatomy, grungie brutal style and steady standing on normal foots - just awesome.
These are truly great!
For this early era of the first volume I definitely get the feeling Jim was drawing his style thru a peter laird prism. Once you get to city at war it gets more his style of boxy turtles.
These are my favourite TMNT figures of all time. ❤️
It’s not Jim Lawson, it would be more accurate to say it’s Peter Laird’s style from Return to New York, although Jim Lawson did adopt it later on.
I addressed that in the video.
From what I understand back when they did return to New york jim lawson, only did the pencils and kevin eastman and peter laird did the inking nowdays jim does both pencils and inking and his art style has evolved crazy
@@jackko21 Jim Lawson has directly addressed this, as there's been a number of people swearing blind they are not based on his style: he said specifically that he was drawing them in his own style at the time with no guidance from Eastman and Laird, but his style did evolve over time. Pretty much everyone involved in the creation of these has said they are Lawson turtles, including the sculptor, NECA and even Eastman (although I can't find the quote for that one), so yeah. I don't think Lawson minds so much if people don't want to refer to them as Lawson turtles, but he has got a bit upset when people say "oh they're not his, look at his art" and then proceed to show his later work. He is quite specific in emphasising that these are just like his older work.
Lawson’s artwork in Return to New York was based on an updated look that Laird created.
After all this time, finally some Mirage Turtles! Was very pleased to be able to find these and the other releases without having to pay scalper prices!
That's always nice!
How much did it cost for one of these?
I just payed scalper prices... I love this set tho. The one I've been waiting for since I was 5!
@@nonxistnt19 Hey as long as you're ok with it and it brings you joy then all is well right?
@@terrancemayes2192 They retail for $150
I'm baffled where this Jim Lawson thing came from. Neca never said such in their reveal at Toy Fair.
These are the mid Mirage comic version if the turtles. The ones airbrushed as well on the OG NES game.
Dan pointed this out that they didn't look like Lawson. What they do look like is the damn cover of the comic he showed. Drawn by Eastman. Like he did fir the box art.
Is it just cause I am old? Mine are on the way this is my version if the turtles I grew up with. Excited to get them.
Agreed. People need to quit with the Lawson nonsense.
Great review! Thanks for all the in-depth tips and observations. I would love to see NECA give us Ninja Turtles that are reflective of specific artists' work during various arcs. Simon Bisley, Micheal Dooney, Joe Mad, Jim Lee, etc. I also enjoy so many of the various iterations of the Ninja Turtles, but I was really impressed by the animated series produced during the early aughts.
Love this set! I've been wanting this version of the TMNT in figure form for a long, long time!
I decided to keep the smiling head on Raph--to me, that grin is too unwholesome to be Mikey. And it seems to match the set better as a whole--generally, if Leo, Don and Mike are scowling, then Raph is smiling. 😁
How much I love this reviews... TMNT + Pixel Dan = happiness.
Thank you so much.
By far my fave TMNT artist.. always loved the look of his Turtles
This is my favorite iteration. Lawson wasn’t the first one to draw the turtles like this though. RTNY is from 1989.. Kevin and Peter both started drawing them like this in 1986 with the bulky bodies, the new style of belts, box shaped like heads and long bandanna tails. I understand that this set is based off RTNY but people are crediting Lawson for creating this style of Turtles. Nothing against Lawson (I love Jim lawsons art) but he wasn’t the first to draw them like this. Woulda been cool if they included alternate heads, one set Peter Lairds style and one set Kevin Eastmans style in addition to the Lawson (RTNY)heads. Completing the mirage Trifecta.
Awesome!
Kevin Eastman also did the layouts for these books, and if you look at them, Lawson’s pencils follow those layouts in RTNY. Peter laird’s inks also add alot to their style. They really are Eastman, Laird, and Lawson turtles as you explained.
@@PhillipTajalle exactly my friend! Exactly!
These figures are absolutely fantastic!
These look absolutely amazing. I know it doesn't fit with the comic, but I wish they made a version of these with the different colours.
I thought there was something off with the whole Michelangelo/Raphael when looking at the box photography as well as how the figures were packaged.
The more scratched up turtle is definitely Raph.
I know it isn't accurate for the looks, but I would definitely like to see these figures with the toon color masks as well.
Now these have solidified themselves in collector history.
I knew I wasn’t the ONLY one who thought these looked more like the Return to NY Turtles a bit more than Jim Lawson’s art (not that it matters though because all the art and figures look amazing)
Yep!
Lawson did the art for Return to New York man☠️☠️
@@thebombsquadtv6151 oh shoot you’re right… WHOOPS
So glad to see someone finally referring to these as the Jim Lawson set. Its insane how many comments are saying "Um actually this isn't Jim Lawson's style"... This set is clearly based on the Return to New York storyline. Jim Lawson penciled RTNY, these are based on his drawings. What's so hard to understand?
As someone who owns full runs of the various Mirage titles. I can kind of understand it. Eastman & Laird did the major work on those early issues from issues 1-10 I want to say.
However, guys like Mike Dooney, Steve Lavigne, Jim Lawson, Ryan Browne, Eric Talbot, and Dan Berger usually don't get mentioned dispite their contributions (which does irk me)
I think alot of it has to do with how scarce the original comics are (in comics shops as available back issues) even the guest artists issues. The IDW collections of the old issues also have that horrible coloring job(s) which takes away the great b/w art of the original presentation. Also the fact that IDW couldn't print the series in order and just collected the E&L stuff, subbing the guest series stuff to a separate collection series.
Granted, since Kevin became re-involved with TMNT and does the Con circuts, people tend to focus on him more. Peter seems to enjoy his retirement and doesn't seem to have much involvement after he sold the rights to Viacom back in 2012, although he did appear with Kevin on Cartoonist Kayfabe to discuss those early issues recently.
All valid comments and opinions for sure
Hi Dan, I can see that a few people have pointed this out already however Jim lawson was not the main inspiration they have the look but they ate more Eastman style with a touch of Michael Dooney I can see Jim lawson but there's no boxy sharp edges or the squared off fingers and toes so these are definitely a mixture of a few artists
Indeed. Labeling these Lawson is flat-out misinformation.
I addressed this in the video.
I'm very much a casual when it comes to "TMNT" comics, so I actually did think these were based off of Eastman's art when they were first shown. Also, as someone who is not a NECA fan, because of the spotty quality and the way they present themselves online and in interviews, I am quite impressed by this set!
It's a really good set!
very cool video. the details are amazing on the figures , but where did you get them and can you get them in stores?
These are up for pre-order on Kapow Toys in the UK. Around £154 mark.
Getting those in Quebec Canada is gonna be a pretty big hunt and a pain in the butt but dang! I think they look even better than the Super 7 ones that I have and I love those.
Better than the Super7?! Maybe so!
Hoping it shows up at Toys R Us because a lot of the Target exclusives in the US end up becoming TRU exclusives up here in Canada.
@@sleeplessknight99 So jealous you have TRU!
I honestly prefer the newer Mirage TMNT figures.
You can see the influence Jim Lawson's designs had on Jim Henson's 1990 turtles and probably even the 2003 cartoon.
I REALLY hope I can find these. ☢ 🐢 🥋 ⚔ 🍕
They’re a tough find for sure
This is how Mirage Turtles should look. The figures don't look like Lawson's stylized art, but they still look great.
The Lawson art you showed for comparison was much much later Mirage Lawson art when his style evolved to be a little more boxy and cartooned like that. During Return to NY (and Tales of the TMNT from around this time or earlier) Lawson’s art was very much like these figures. He was of course kind of basing off of the way Eastman and Laird had evolved to draw the Turtles prior to this, so it’s definitely more than fair to credit this Turtle look to Eastmand and Laird.
Both answers are correct.
Nice u made me want to get this set haven’t ran across it my wife just hit a target and found a shredder and a master splinter
The toys look like Raph got cloned. AND I LOVE IT!
Art box alone is worth the purchase. Great packaging
Yes it is!
The hood sits in Raph a lot better when you remove the tail from his bandana.
Good note!
I really hope these get released in Canada sometime soon. I refuse to pay eBay prices. I have no nostalgia for the cartoon, I missed it, I prefer this version of the Turtles.
Amazing! More NECA Ninja Turtles. Can't wait for the IDW Figures and the new Movie Figures. I have alot of the BST Figures and Super 7 and NECA Movie Star figures. Maybe they'll make the Image Version too.
What do you think of the BST AXN figures? A lot of mixed feelings about those!
@@Pixel-dan I like Shredder (Helmet Shiny), Slash (Shell Spikes only on top like Cartoon), Bebop and Rocksteady (Switch their Human and Mutant Heads).
@@timdakis2107 Interesting.
@@Pixel-dan if you buy the BST Slash, please compare his shell with the NECA and Orginal figure.
I hope they make a movie base on mirage comics with this design
That would be epic!
I think you're right on it being Eastman's art. More like his later artwork. Lawson's art is boxy.
"Jim Lawsons artwork in that comic is a bit more boxy and a bit more cartoony than I feel like these are"
Proceeds to show Jim Lawson art from 15+ years after the he did the art for Return to New York.
Man Neca is really been stepping it up
You're not kidding!
these figures are so sick
I love them!
I just to have a wall with ninja turtles and pictures with this style was a favorite of mine ♥️
I think it's a favorite for a lot of people!
I've seen this set at Target recently.
Its very tempting
You saw them at let them sit!?
@@Pixel-dan didn't have the money to grab em, sadly
So glad I secured this set at retail. Sold out so damn quick!
Yes it did! Glad you were able to get one!
That's a very menacing smile
I nearly fell out when I saw this set at my target.
You're one of the lucky ones!
I need a 4 pack of the 2003 Turtles. That's my childhood turtles. I remember getting the 2003 Playmates Donatello (favorite turtle) on the same day my sister had her belly button surgery when she was little. Just so happens an episode of the 2003 show was on the tv in the hospital room. I literally carried that figure with everywhere I went for weeks after that. I also had the 2003 Splinter and Foot Solder.
Yes! Love it!
I hope we get the Foot Soldiers and a Shredder figures in red again!
The angular turtle faces are a million times better than the rounded cutesy cartoon designs.
What we need now is a Casey Jones in this style.
Good video my friend
Keep making excellent videos.
There is already a casey jones mirage figure
Oh that would be great! I'd love to see that!
ok, these broke me. i want them and I am in australia, so, probably not gonna ever see them…. effin heck! I hope they make these in two packs with alternate painted heads, because, why not?
Sucks ill never be able to get these in Canada without paying scalpers, which I refuse to do.
Love this set.
Neca seems to have reverted to only servicing certain areas and not other. Can't find these anywhere.
I would love to know what they're formula is.
Where did you get those two images from? 2:31-2:38? Th😅se aren’t from TMNT 19-21. I’ve never seen those before.
I was just showing from that era.
I wish they would sell them individually. I would get Leo but the whole pack is just too much to justify. Plus Neca may make good stuff but they just seem to love scalpers. Something comes out and it sells out quick but there are hundreds on eBay for even more then retail.
I am excited to see you review the new action figures from the new Mutant Mayhem film!
Me too!
I was on the fence with these as I am a big fan of the early issues Turtles, but I went ahead and copped then today at my local Target. No regrets.
No regrets!
We need to have a pep-talk with the photographer, since this is strike two (April 2.0 giraffe neck)
What does this mean?
Return to new York raph, that comic cover is one of my favorite
It’s greatness
Awesome Dan, is it possible to use the new turtles hands in the old turtles? I have the classic ones but they are from that 4 pack, it'd be awesome if I could use other hands with them
That's something I need to check out for myself.
Do you still collect from super7 or am I just not seeing it on your channel 😅
I hope I can find this set. I don’t think my local targets have got them yet. I’ve found everything but this set and 2 of the stores I went to had just put out there stuff but no 4 pack. I know there doing a TMNT drop on the 26th and a couple store already put out the displays.
Yea. They're a tough find. And you've got Mutant Mayhem dropping today as well.
I don't know how many people have noticed it or randomly found out but if you pop the turtle's heads off there initials are on the inside of each head to help you identify whose head is who 🐢👊
I should watch the rest of the video before I comment but lol glad you noticed that too
Ha! At least you got to the end of the video!
@@Pixel-dan what did you expect🤔 that I of all people wouldn't finish something I started 😆 i spoke why to soon, Within the 1st 2 minutes you're like which one's Raphael and Michaelangelo then 5 minutes later after I wrote that you popped the heads off.. when I got mine and I opened them up and was looking at Raphael, I figured Michaelangelo would have the opposing head and Raphael would have the gridded expression... leave it to the 87 cartoon to make my mind think like that 😆 But I popped the heads off and looked inside and saw the the individuals
@@chrisbarcode3411 Awesome!
@@Pixel-dan cowabunga 🐢👊
Got one on Sunday! I was going to get 2, one to display and one to open but I decided to leave the other 3 available to the next collectors to try. I hope they went to collectors and not scalpers.
Wow! Your Target had 4!?
All stores received 2 at first 2nd shipment they received 4
@@neergcorp6320 The 2nd and 3rd store I went to never got the "first" shipment, only the 4. The first one got 2 and immediately sold out before hitting shelves.
None of them were on the floor, I had to get floor associates to help me. Thankfully they were nice
@@Pixel-dan yeah, thankfully I had the SKU and DCI (?) to give them so they were able to look it up. Won't show up on the website and the store I got mine from never had it on the floor...hadn't seen their NECA vendor person in like a month so everything just sat in the back.
@@Sammo212 Good for you for asking!
Anyone know if there's some alternate or 3rd party nunchucks for Mikey that fit well? These are a bit too short and the string is so basic. I have a NECA Last Ronin, but that only brings one set, and I haven't tried it yet
What do you think about mutant mayhem figures?
They look great! Can't wait to get my hands on them!
Pixal Dan I’ve been watching ur vids for while u make th best content
That means so much to me!
I’ve been a tmnt fan since 2012 so for 11 years a
@@anishruparelia703 I love it.
Is it just me, or are all these NECA TMNT action figures super hard to find/buy?
Are they Target exclusives?
This iteration of turtles always confused me, I could only tell them apart by their weapons
Haha! That's all of us. :-D
If you read the books during the Mirage Comics era the boys are very well identifiable by their personalities not just their weapons.
I prefer the all red “team” colors, the toy line & cartoon introduced the other colors which is okay but the initials on belts are too silly for my liking.
@@traviswilcox3472 I can get that.
Do you have the mutant mayhem figures yet if so I can’t wait for your review you were my childhood😃
Nope waiting to hunt for them just like you guys!
Dan is this set still available to pick up anywhere
Best you can do is keep checking Target.
Where can I get these?
Can someone please tell me where can these be bought and for how much?
Thanks for the review Dan.
$160. Target.
Where can you buy these? I’m so confused they say target has them but then they say target does not have them. Where can I buy this?
At a target if they're in stock.
Where did u get this? When will it be hitting online stores
Target site just listed them today. They retail for 150
This set is gorgeous!
Yea it is
These figures look more like Peter Laird turtles.
They're both. Based on his design.
I was actually going to pass on these but glad I didn't. The sculpts look awesome
They're great! Just make sure to change those heads out!
Ugh... Target! I guess I won't be getting these. Hopefully they'll be sold somewhere else later.
I’d liked to know why neca does this to us
Love too see the review on I’m literally dreaming of these figures they look nice I love to see your take on them great vid
Thank you so much!
I don't like the fact that they all have red instead of their original colors. You could put any weapons on either one because they all look like Raphael. I don't need 4 Raphael figures. They would have look so much better with the original, blue, orange, purple and Red colors. I won't buy them unless I could sell them and make a profit off of them. They look great/fantastic though. I just don't like that they have just red instead of their original colors.
Are you saying this on purpose to bait people?
dude that's Micheal Dooney turtles
They look more like Peter Laird than Lawson.
That's because Peter Laird did the inks and Jim Lawson did the pencils.
I did address this in the video.
Daaamn! These look sick!!
They're really good!
How do you open it???
When the mutant mayhem figures release will you do reviews for them?
Of course! You're wanting those!? I know I am!
Couldn’t get my hands on these and some places that are selling them I don’t trust lol
I wouldn't trust anyone but Target, NECA, and a friend. haha
@@Pixel-dan 100% lol
@@abepcf1526 You get it!
Dude the new mutant mayhem figure's are here! when are you gonna review them!!
When I can get my hands on them!
I have no attachment to the original comics Turtles, but maaaaaan, those are some nice figures!
I def remember first buying the Return to NY comic as a kid....i was like WTH am i reading??? Lol it was nothing like the cartoon
So amazing that you like them regardless!
Not at all!
OG red sliders!!!!!
✅👏💪🏽
were do you buy these? besides ebay
Targets.
Can the heads pop off? Thank you for answering my question.
No Problem
@@Pixel-dan I just started reading the comics again from the beginning.
@@Cinquan Now that is an endeavor my friend!
Super cool
Are you going to do a review on the tmnt mutant Mayham tiys they have been coming out like crazy
You know I am!
It looks like they screwed up and got em mixed up. Yet again proving why they had to give them different colors and shapes to tell em apart 😅😅
ha. You might be right!
I am not to found of these. In my eyes they are to bulky and to boxy.
I am looking forward to the _Turtles XL action fig delux set_ , even if the price tag on that is about *657* USD ~£515 😬 here in Sweden (7000SEK).
You think theyre' more bulky than the other turtles?
@@Pixel-dan
Yes. But I compare them with the Viacom(?)/PlayMates Turtles from 2012* (aimed for kids), and the NECA figs that all had red bandanas. (based on the comics, and also came in a B&W version)
*)If I have understand it correctly, there was a more "box-looking", almost like N64 graphic, set even here. But I refere to the Nickelodeon more scared figures.
@@grotgrusson5124 Oh. Interesting!
When will you do the secret of the ooze turtles?
Pretty sure he did those a long time ago. Those are 2-3 years old
I probably won't go backwards to review those, sorry. I just pre-ordered the Movie 3 set, so maybe I'll review that when it ships in August. Time will tell!
Too much stuff, not enough time. 😀
@Pixel-dan it's okay, I'm excited for the movie 3 turtles
@@smroussel the secret of the ooze turtles came out early this year
@@RobertJHeath They look really good too!
Unfortunately your video is continuing the misconception that these aren't Lawson turtles. It's 100% the Return to New York style. Your video does the same mistake others do - they google Lawson art, and get stuff from his Volume 4 art, instead of his Volume 1 art. His style changed a lot. Bust out your Return to New York comics, and you'll see these are 100% based on that series.
We don’t wanna call Lawson turtles for a reason. You’re giving Lawson full credit for a style of turtles he didn’t invent or draw first. Yes this set is based off the RTNY comics but Peter Laird and Kevin Eastman came up with that style long before Lawson. RTNY is from 1989. Peter and Kevin started drawing the turtles in this new style at least 3 years before RTNY. The style you’re referring to as Jim Lawsons “later style” that’s his only original style that he came up with. If you call them Lawson turtles it sounds like you’re discrediting the artists who drew them in this style first. People are only focusing on the fact this is a RTNY inspired set so you’re labeling it Lawson and giving him credit for that entire design. So if you wanna give Lawson full credit you’d have to prove he was the first artist to draw them in this style. I can’t find any evidence of him drawing them like this before Peter and Kevin did in 1986. 3 years before RTNY…
@@TurtleC0mic Lawson started pencils in issue 9. It's his design with the flatter face without the prominent beak.
I addressed this in the video.
How much do they cost?
$160. I don’t know if that’s fair or not. But 4 x 40 is $160 so
I AM SO GOING TO BUY THIS…….if I can find it…..
That's the thing. So hard to find!
@@Pixel-dan update: I found it lol
I wish content creators would stop calling these the "Jim Lawson" variants. The art is an evolved style of Peter Lairds and was first introduced in Leonardo's micro series between issues #9 and #10. Jim Lawson was on a team that was responsible for inks and tones, he had nothing to do with the pencils. The first storyline Jim worked on featured the turtles with bands that covered the top part of their heads and the belts were drawn in the cloth style (issue #9 The Passing). The rest of the turtles were developed in the new style during Leo's solo run and issue #10 Silent Partner. It was discovered that Shredder returned and the team goes to Casey's farm to regroup and nurse Leo back to health.
I understand that the style started and was continued on with Jim Lawson. When you google image search Jim Lawson TMNT you can see these are spot on with that google search.
Agreed Mr, these are closer to Eastman's art. Makes me think people are blind.
Then why does it say in the comic book credits he did pencils for the Return to New York 3 issue series then?
@@mattdbf Because he did most of the art. It doesn't mean these are based on his art though.