Why Red Bull's Upgrade Crisis Could Cost Max Verstappen Dearly

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  • Опубликовано: 29 окт 2024

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  • @sh-spectrum409
    @sh-spectrum409 2 месяца назад +91

    I think something else that needs mentioning is Charles taking George’s mantra as the Tyre Whisperer because holy moly, how he managed to hold off Oscar with 10 lap older tyres to the finish is an achievement.

    • @EversonBernardes
      @EversonBernardes 2 месяца назад +9

      Hard tyre compound this season behaves super weird. If up to temp, a driver that doesn't shred the tyres seems to be able to get pretty consistently good performance for a really long time - it doesn't seem to degrade all that much in performance over time.

    • @VistokDB
      @VistokDB 2 месяца назад +2

      Charles is true, George had an underweight car. Tho stunning drives from both

    • @de1623
      @de1623 2 месяца назад +3

      Oscar said he took too much life out of the tire early on getting past George and then chasing down Charles.

    • @chipsawdust5816
      @chipsawdust5816 2 месяца назад +3

      @@de1623 Oscar also mentioned racing in dirty air was difficult. He was within DRS multiple times, and at one point less than 0.350 behind, but could never make the pass.

    • @de1623
      @de1623 2 месяца назад +1

      @@chipsawdust5816 Team mistake not boxing him at same time or before Charles. The car was fast in free air, that should have been priority. McLaren are always too passive with strategy, never make first moves, only react.

  • @opposedscroll7596
    @opposedscroll7596 2 месяца назад +71

    It's ironic to see that Red Bull, who once had a car that was kind on its tyres, now have a car that is extremely tough on its tyres

    • @Spyk27632
      @Spyk27632 2 месяца назад +7

      When equal brake pressure is applied,it chows the tyre thats under load😂

    • @nerexxnerexx9012
      @nerexxnerexx9012 2 месяца назад

      @@Spyk27632 evidence???? redbulls tyre problems are mainly due to balance problems but hey

    • @EversonBernardes
      @EversonBernardes 2 месяца назад +9

      @@Spyk27632 And when you remove torque vectoring, the car needs more front grip or it will understeer, as well. That will _also_ eat tyres.

    • @cococalm
      @cococalm 2 месяца назад

      kinda proves the cheat theory .....

    • @nerexxnerexx9012
      @nerexxnerexx9012 2 месяца назад +4

      @@cococalm First of All it wouldnt have been cheating if they even used this Kind of System because it would have been a clever loophole they were exploiting. I mean no one considers DAS to be cheating right because it was just a clever loophole .

  • @parsamns6677
    @parsamns6677 2 месяца назад +208

    You. Can. Not. Tell me that thats the same RB20 as Bahrain. Something has changed. Maybe not the asymmetric breaking, but somethting.
    Edit: I think that there are many factors to it, Newey leaving the team, RedBull not listening to Newey during the initial stages of making the car, Some sort of gray area change which is most likely to be asymmetric breaking, and of course other teams specially McLaren bringing upgrades that actually work.

    • @F1Unchained
      @F1Unchained  2 месяца назад +46

      there is a possibility there was something up

    • @emil3672
      @emil3672 2 месяца назад +20

      was there not talks about newey not being as involved with this years car compared to before? cause to me it seems like a crew that doesnt understand their car just like at merc - so if neweys involvment was everything they had going, and the crew themselves doesnt understand the car. i feel that could also be whats going on

    • @Awfully_good
      @Awfully_good 2 месяца назад +27

      Oh no it’s for sure the asymmetric braking how many more signs do you need? He complains about the brake bias and turns yet again meaning before he had an unfair advantage when it came to it

    • @MyRealName
      @MyRealName 2 месяца назад +16

      The opponents changed and got better. Max has to push harder and the car simply has a lower limit than the opposition. It's just visible now because he actually has to push hard when he didn't have to before.

    • @imkingelijah
      @imkingelijah 2 месяца назад +16

      Guys the breaking system wasn’t even part of the RB look this up. The FIA has put the rule in the regulations as they assumed teams would try this system in the future.

  • @BoyeeSmudger
    @BoyeeSmudger 2 месяца назад +69

    Lando's fasted lap on old hards, on the last lap. That was a statement.

    • @GrapplingwithPhysics
      @GrapplingwithPhysics 2 месяца назад +5

      The lowest fuel load, makes sense to me

    • @joshualamp2438
      @joshualamp2438 2 месяца назад +15

      @@GrapplingwithPhysicstyres are still shit, people pitted just to get fastest lap

    • @GucciBurrr
      @GucciBurrr 2 месяца назад +1

      That he has the fastest car?

    • @Bobby11
      @Bobby11 2 месяца назад +2

      Yes however hard tyres that old normally wouldn't allow that. Otherwise we would see itnalot more often. Last lap fastest laps (without a ture change)

    • @Franceee___
      @Franceee___ 2 месяца назад

      @@GrapplingwithPhysicsHe went 1 sec faster against the Mercedes who were running soft tires, so yeah the car did most of the job, but he also did well managing imo

  • @MCRailway18-rl
    @MCRailway18-rl 2 месяца назад +37

    Im happy that the Ferraris had a lot of race pace this weekend, expecting the same next week...

    • @chipsawdust5816
      @chipsawdust5816 2 месяца назад

      I'm hoping, for sure, but not expecting, sadly. They haven't had enough form all year long to have an expectation.

  • @Denis-gw9eu
    @Denis-gw9eu 2 месяца назад +87

    Redbull is testing this atm. Perez is with the newest floor and every practice session are they downgrading max his RB20 to see where they took the wrong turn. They have to be quick otherwise lando will run away with it.

    • @itshammertimeF1
      @itshammertimeF1 2 месяца назад +17

      asymmetric braking system removal was the wrong turn

    • @AdmiralRex
      @AdmiralRex 2 месяца назад +23

      @@itshammertimeF1 They were not using it. The FIA was shoring up the rules for next year and 2026, so nobody COULD use it. Nobody was using it.

    • @itshammertimeF1
      @itshammertimeF1 2 месяца назад +6

      @@AdmiralRex lol

    • @Spyk27632
      @Spyk27632 2 месяца назад +5

      ​@@AdmiralRexlmao the rule always said equal pressure must be applied to both wheels,they came and added Asymmetric braking bcoz teams like Redbull dont understand English

    • @devonledgister3997
      @devonledgister3997 2 месяца назад

      ​. You didnt read what you wrote. Corruption is big in f1 , and the fía is part of it.

  • @jacobsiegfried3675
    @jacobsiegfried3675 2 месяца назад +2

    The Race mentioned a couple months ago that Perrelli increased their minimum tire pressures after the first few races. I think this potential change definitely benefits some teams and hinders others. I believe Alonso made this claim in interviews early in the season too. I’d love to see this channel investigate this claim further. Great content, cheers!

  • @Nonixification
    @Nonixification 2 месяца назад +128

    Leclerc was 2 seconds behind Max :O

    • @bertramfischer2905
      @bertramfischer2905 2 месяца назад +3

      Yet people say the Ferrari was a tractor 🤦

    • @lunaticgamer75
      @lunaticgamer75 2 месяца назад +26

      @@bertramfischer2905None of the top 4 cars are tractors, they all go up and down on different circuits except for Mclaren always being near the top

    • @kenzabel5394
      @kenzabel5394 2 месяца назад +11

      @@lunaticgamer75 yes that's the thing with f1 fans when their favorite driver is not winning they will say the car is tractor to make him look special, if it's a tractor then what should we call sauber, alpine and the other slow cars

    • @lunaticgamer75
      @lunaticgamer75 2 месяца назад +3

      @@kenzabel5394 ikr, some casual fans like to say their team have tractor cars while getting a podium 🥲

    • @ryno4859
      @ryno4859 2 месяца назад +5

      @kenzabel5394 you are right and there's only 1 tractor on the grid and that's the Sauber. The fact a talented driver like Bottas hasn't scored a single point.

  • @TheVillageIdiotUk
    @TheVillageIdiotUk 2 месяца назад +1

    Lando’s final lap was sensational and very ballsy. Great analysis and summary, thank you. You’re P1 here on The Tube. 👍🏻 🏆 😊

  • @AverageGamer_r
    @AverageGamer_r 2 месяца назад +22

    This is sort of like button in 2009. Max had many wins at the start but can’t anymore. Wonder if he’ll also be able to keep his drivers championship lead

    • @NotAn_NPC
      @NotAn_NPC 2 месяца назад +10

      It's panic time for him if Lando keeps winning and he is not able to limit damage with 2nd and 3rd place finishes

    • @ChuyR.
      @ChuyR. 2 месяца назад +4

      He will activate crashtappen mode

    • @whogivesafack-ch3lj
      @whogivesafack-ch3lj 2 месяца назад

      He is going to win. Lando won't win every race and max won't finish below 3rd. He's way too consistent. I think he has matched Lando in points since Miami. Why should he lose 70 in 8 races all of a sudden

    • @WH0oo...
      @WH0oo... 2 месяца назад +5

      For Lando to win the WDC, he would need to tie the old record of 9 consecutive wins in a row. Riiiiiight! Little Chucky got lucky because of the car. His reputation to dethrone Charles as the pole pisser is still in play.

    • @kevinhanandi
      @kevinhanandi 2 месяца назад +2

      1 dnf from max, and lando on at least podium place, it is on for Lando to win championship, otherwise, it is unlikely

  • @haidermalik5744
    @haidermalik5744 2 месяца назад +3

    Lowkey it would be funny if they go back to the old rb19 spec, old sidepods, old floor, old everything and see what happened with the car

  • @ballerblocks
    @ballerblocks 2 месяца назад +8

    I think ultimately this braking rule change may have some truth to it, i suspect red bull is designed to be very stiff on the front suspension, and the assymetric braking hack helped rotate the car whilst maintaining a stable front aero profile. ( Essential mechanical oversteer)

    • @EversonBernardes
      @EversonBernardes 2 месяца назад +1

      Stiff front suspension or low aero for the front wing, probably both. Stiff suspension would help with floor height, low aero would reduce drag (so faster straight line speed) and provide the floor with cleaner air. Either (or both) of those things would make the car consistently understeer, and if they make significant changes to those it will have a massive impact overall on how the car drives and will have other downstream consequences (like lower straight line speed, less ground effect efficiency, more tyre degradation, etc).

  • @MrEkin03
    @MrEkin03 2 месяца назад +17

    That DNF (brake on fire) may cost RB and Max the entire season

    • @brentt8940
      @brentt8940 2 месяца назад +4

      Mayb Lando giving up 1st place might cost him too. Such a dumb decision by them.

    • @Karozy4869
      @Karozy4869 2 месяца назад +1

      more like shunning Newey costs RB this season and probably the next one

    • @iulian2548
      @iulian2548 2 месяца назад

      ​@@brentt8940Also the Spielberg dumpster fire that led to Lando DNF.

    • @dominicviner6619
      @dominicviner6619 2 месяца назад

      Or that win Oscar got over Norris could cost Norris the season imagine if lando misses out by 5 points…

  • @KristijanSokol
    @KristijanSokol 2 месяца назад +4

    Almost at 60k keep up the great job Miki 🤘

  • @perqtalkinq456
    @perqtalkinq456 2 месяца назад +8

    great video once again brother!

    • @F1Unchained
      @F1Unchained  2 месяца назад +2

      ❤️❤️ thank you brotha

  • @Real28
    @Real28 2 месяца назад +20

    Charles deserved DotD, and I say that as a McLaren fan.
    But as McLaren enjoyer, yes, I am enjoying this.
    Still can't tell if the car is getting worse, or just hasn't gotten better and we couldn't tell until someone matched them. It took half the year but now Mercedes is good enough to challenge at the right tracks.
    Maybe they did make a car with no development path. If so, that's wild.

  • @AvocadoAfficionado
    @AvocadoAfficionado 2 месяца назад +25

    Imagine being Chrisitan Horner and thinking that you're RedBull's secret sauce, not Adrian Newey. You'd feel like a right tit right about now.
    Horner went full Ron Dennis and RBR is cooked.

    • @lucasntenteni4377
      @lucasntenteni4377 2 месяца назад

      You do know that Newey had contributions to the RB20 right? He worked on this car from last year so this is also a newey designed car

  • @PesheWild
    @PesheWild 2 месяца назад +2

    Randomly stumbled on this video. Great one mate. Really enjoyed it.

    • @F1Unchained
      @F1Unchained  2 месяца назад +2

      Thank you my friend ❤️

  • @leninmercedes6567
    @leninmercedes6567 2 месяца назад +8

    ❤ was waiting for this. Ty

  • @AdmiralRex
    @AdmiralRex 2 месяца назад +23

    I think Red Bull is trying to find where they went wrong. Also, I'm not sure I'd call this an embarrassing defeat. That would be like calling everyone who came behind Red Bull last year embarrassing, when they were doing all they could. It's just the state of things now, with McLaren having a rocketship. I hope, as a Red Bull fan, that they can bring it back, cause I don't want this to just flip and have McLaren 20 seconds ahead instead of Max. I want proper racing.
    In any case, thanks for continuing to make quality content man. Stay safe. :)

    • @_RPG_16
      @_RPG_16 2 месяца назад +2

      it was embarrassing for other teams last year

    • @KailamiMwiinga
      @KailamiMwiinga 2 месяца назад +4

      We haven't had proper racing in the front since 2022 thanks to RB... As long as Max doesn't win a WDC I am happy with the Mclaren gaps...

    • @emsan54
      @emsan54 2 месяца назад +1

      I guess you also wanted proper race when Max was leading by 30s. 😂😂

    • @AdmiralRex
      @AdmiralRex 2 месяца назад +1

      @@emsan54 I'm a new fan, so no... I want this to be exciting, not dominated by one team

    • @AdmiralRex
      @AdmiralRex 2 месяца назад +2

      @@KailamiMwiinga So you want the exact same thing as RB dominance, just with a different team? All you want is Max to lose? Doesn't sound like a good fan to me.

  • @Snazzy16
    @Snazzy16 2 месяца назад +22

    McLaren was crazy good this race. Genuinely insane. It seems like the rb19 except with the McLaren

    • @anubiam3004
      @anubiam3004 2 месяца назад +6

      Lando's was. Piastri was good not great.

    • @darthsnarf
      @darthsnarf 2 месяца назад +2

      they have a good car now, wait 3 races, mercedes or rbr may be back, these new regs are unpredictable

    • @theuniversaldisneyian2021
      @theuniversaldisneyian2021 2 месяца назад

      Well, I mean it kinda is. McLaren and Ferrari (at the start of the season) brought cars that were essentially RB19Bs. McLaren get upgrading based on that concept, while Ferrari started copying the RB20, such as the massive undercut on the sidepod and others that I don’t remember right now. The rest is history. Data from Hungary show that the RB20 was *slower* than the RB19, and Red Bull was one of only two teams to have a slower car than last year’s. Sauber is the other team.

  • @jrrosberg9324
    @jrrosberg9324 2 месяца назад +24

    Ferrari race was unexpected

  • @weRchecking
    @weRchecking 2 месяца назад +4

    Love your content and data, fact driven analysis - simply the best go to F1 content on the web- thanks keep up the good work and please keep the salacious content out as you do so well - your channel is one of the only channels thats data based - thanks

  • @klausjager1826
    @klausjager1826 2 месяца назад +8

    Oh my... That RB20 was understeering like cars in F1 2020 but harder...

  • @cmoreshead
    @cmoreshead 2 месяца назад +10

    Stuff gets exciting when the pressure is on at the top!

  • @andredornelles8014
    @andredornelles8014 2 месяца назад +1

    I’ve been a follower since ~10k and truly I don’t really remember how I found your channel. But man I got say the quality of your content is unmatched. The way you put together the mechanical, the technical, the strategy, relevant data all in a sum bigger than its individual parts is really music to my ears. Honestly, this is content quality comparable to The Race (which of course is an Aramco sponsored, top stablished media channel within the paddock). Great job!

    • @F1Unchained
      @F1Unchained  2 месяца назад

      Made my day reading this ❤️ thank you my friend

  • @ronCZ23
    @ronCZ23 2 месяца назад

    The edits for the videos are getting so much better u can tell efforts has been put in these videos great to see this channel do well 🎉

  • @Bobby11
    @Bobby11 2 месяца назад +6

    I wonder if Max's driving style would benefit from asymmetric braking and Perez not so much. Seems a bit odd that Max slower Perez much better than recently. Just a thought.

    • @F1Unchained
      @F1Unchained  2 месяца назад +2

      It does

    • @WH0oo...
      @WH0oo... 2 месяца назад

      Perez went backwards, again. Looks like you're thinking is more like Perez's driving. LOL

  • @elhonkler
    @elhonkler 2 месяца назад +1

    I was waiting for the video, thanks

  • @leninmercedes6567
    @leninmercedes6567 2 месяца назад +28

    ❤ that’s not the same RB 20 from the beginning of the season

    • @cococalm
      @cococalm 2 месяца назад +1

      And what was "removed" to make this a reality ? A cheat perhaps ??

    • @HANNIBAL30ro
      @HANNIBAL30ro 2 месяца назад

      @@cococalm what cheat? is there official source of them cheating? or just some media rumors?

    • @cococalm
      @cococalm 2 месяца назад

      @@HANNIBAL30ro ... You really need to get out more. Get off the copium m8. Not good for ya. I am not in the 2 + 2 = 5 camp. You blindly believe what the FIA and RB are telling you ? There is no transparency, not integrity and sadly imncreasing moral bankrupcy within F1 these days. Where is the independent scrutiny ? I thought so !!

    • @leninmercedes6567
      @leninmercedes6567 2 месяца назад

      @@cococalmperhaps

    • @cococalm
      @cococalm 2 месяца назад +2

      @@leninmercedes6567 - methinks more than perhaps. Smoke and mirrors m8

  • @darthsnarf
    @darthsnarf 2 месяца назад +3

    oh boy this season is going to go down as one of the best of all time i think, i remember when people said give max the trophy after 2 races

    • @darthsnarf
      @darthsnarf 2 месяца назад +1

      the regulations for keeping the teams close seems to be working as intended

    • @karthikcmohanyt
      @karthikcmohanyt 2 месяца назад +1

      @@darthsnarfhow are you concluding the teams are closer now?
      McLaren are way ahead of everyone else, the domination just switched hands.

    • @darthsnarf
      @darthsnarf 2 месяца назад

      i watched the last few races, lol, 6 races 5 different winners. there is no more midfield. we have 4 teams at the top end competing for the podium every single week. this mclaren dominance you speak of has lasted for 3 entire races.

  • @Zadkiel862
    @Zadkiel862 2 месяца назад +5

    "the car isn't able to do that." Almost like something was clarified recently...

  • @Simracingisgoated
    @Simracingisgoated 2 месяца назад +10

    Lando is still mathematically in the championship fights. It’s not the most likely thing. Just something to keep in the back of you mind just in case.

    • @WH0oo...
      @WH0oo... 2 месяца назад +1

      For Lando to win the WDC, he would need to tie the old record of 9 consecutive wins in a row. Riiiiiight! Little Chucky got lucky because of the car. His reputation to dethrone Charles as the pole pisser is still in play.

    • @Simracingisgoated
      @Simracingisgoated 2 месяца назад +1

      @@WH0oo... No he doesn’t at all actually. He only needs a few wins and redbull fucking up the car so merc and Ferrari can take points of him. And I hope you realize everyone wins races because of the car they’re in. This isn’t a spec series bud.

    • @WH0oo...
      @WH0oo... 2 месяца назад

      @@Simracingisgoated hopium. the other drivers have a lot of sway in assisting or hindering the outcome. I wouldn't be surprised if jeolousy under currents come into full play heading into ABU 24. The spice drama is about to ignite.

  • @luciddreams3493
    @luciddreams3493 2 месяца назад +1

    Been forced to have equal brake bias has really destroyed the RB

  • @KingsmenRagnarok
    @KingsmenRagnarok 2 месяца назад +8

    2025 is shaping up to be one of the very best F1 season ever with all 4 top teams competing for wins multiple drivers contending for WDC and multiple contenders for the constructors.
    (I’m on pure hopium) but can you blame me 😂😂😂

    • @mjolnir1981
      @mjolnir1981 2 месяца назад +1

      That is what everyone said in 2012 and Vettel wiped the floor with them in 2013

    • @WH0oo...
      @WH0oo... 2 месяца назад

      There's really only 2 with mathematical chance and one of them, Lando would need to tie the old record of 9 consecutive wins in a row. Riiiiiight! Little Chucky got lucky because of the car. His reputation to dethrone Charles as the pole pisser is still in play.

  • @AbcAbc-th4yl
    @AbcAbc-th4yl 2 месяца назад

    Great video again. What's your opinion on Brundle commenting that Max might have been deliberately a bit slower in the second stint especially?

  • @Bobby11
    @Bobby11 2 месяца назад +5

    The part that impressed me was Landos fastest lap.

    • @milk3013
      @milk3013 2 месяца назад +1

      The 22 second gap wasn't impressive?

    • @Bobby11
      @Bobby11 2 месяца назад

      Of course, but that could have been down to alot more than just him. Like Verstapen losing tire grip etc. whete as the fastest lap on that old tires is all Lando.

    • @Franceee___
      @Franceee___ 2 месяца назад

      That showed how towards the end he was managing the tires probably not even pushing

  • @CryptoAero
    @CryptoAero 2 месяца назад +7

    ok. Redbull has a massive problem.
    Ferrari seems to have caught up on race trim, MCLaren is far off in race pace.
    Mercedes probably has a problem with new floor and may have to revert back to old one and be faster than RB again.
    Seems like MAX is gonna be flirting with p6-p7 soon. Worst part, if he fights angrily he will crash with norris quite a lot.

    • @todd8155
      @todd8155 2 месяца назад

      Looks like Max was well behaved in the Lando overtake today, so perhaps Max has matured.

    • @WH0oo...
      @WH0oo... 2 месяца назад

      Never underestimate the power of the Schumacher, Senna, Prost will to win. It would only take a race to upset the apple cart.

  • @philanimagagula5458
    @philanimagagula5458 2 месяца назад +13

    Pretty clear that RBR problem is mechanical (assymetrical braking?) and not aero relating, that much understeer is actually INSANE

    • @srthebox4946
      @srthebox4946 2 месяца назад +2

      It was already stated by the FIA that nobody was using asymmetric braking

    • @maxsteel32
      @maxsteel32 2 месяца назад +7

      ​@@srthebox4946you believe them? 😂

    • @95mushroom
      @95mushroom 2 месяца назад +2

      @@maxsteel32 Also, I forget exactly, but the FIA said it in a super weird way too, "No team has used a system mentioned so far." Like, its probably not an inertia valve, that never made sense to me. But some other system that had to be removed that would allow asymmetrical braking, like a expandable diaphragm or something

  • @elig8003
    @elig8003 2 месяца назад +3

    Well, perhaps Redbull designed a car that prioritized other aerodynamic characteristics that overcompensated in some areas since they were able to tuned out under/over steering by using a breaking-bias trick. Now they have to undo those characteristics to balance the car like everyone else.

    • @Spyk27632
      @Spyk27632 2 месяца назад +1

      Thing is,u cant dial out the understeer of these cars,you can just make them more predictable to drive. The brake trick gave Max the turn in he likes and now the car doesnt turn and it slides,image how bad they going to be in Singapore,they lost asymmetrical braking and they are dog shit over the curbs😂😂😂

    • @WH0oo...
      @WH0oo... 2 месяца назад +1

      Wild speculations. Do you even know what you're talking about?

  • @lukenemeth
    @lukenemeth 2 месяца назад

    Great video! 💚 I am finding it difficult to not get ahead of myself as a McLaren supporter but I think it is important because there are some great teams out there I don't want to sleep on. I do wonder what the rest of the season will look like. 🤔

  • @neilpateldpt
    @neilpateldpt 2 месяца назад +6

    Asymmetric braking unavailable :/

    • @ua697
      @ua697 2 месяца назад

      That could explain why Mercedes has lost its mojo

    • @neilpateldpt
      @neilpateldpt 2 месяца назад +1

      @@ua697 well for sure have to look into it. Curious to see how it is in a track like Monza where it’s best qualities could shine

  • @anotheruser9876
    @anotheruser9876 2 месяца назад +5

    After Monza they are going to revert to the RB19.

  • @midas7394
    @midas7394 2 месяца назад +1

    Congratulations to Lando & the McLaren team for a brilliant race execution.😊

  • @justincharles6585
    @justincharles6585 2 месяца назад +4

    I was most surprised by Ferrari of all teams honestly, the boys drove that red tractor well

  • @lyks1727
    @lyks1727 2 месяца назад +3

    Hard to believe Redbull were dominating beginning of the season

  • @anubiam3004
    @anubiam3004 2 месяца назад +3

    Mercedes was trying to steal the point for faster lap. I like the idea of the point but far too often it is claimed by the 7/8th place runner that has a free pitstop to the car behind. To me this is making a mockery of the system. And kind of scary that Lando put in the fastest lap on the last lap while driving off line in the final corner and on 40lap old hard tires!

    • @eden5260
      @eden5260 2 месяца назад +2

      They didn't put George for the fastest lap , ( which he never took off Hamilton anyways)
      George lost a position to checo while pitting
      They either thought he can gain it back or he had some issue

    • @WH0oo...
      @WH0oo... 2 месяца назад +1

      Why? They deserve the point if earned and are eligible. Points for the middle and lower tier are vital and can be bonus pay for end of year performance metrics. You like looking at bottle ships instead of sailing the real ones it seems.

  • @nicolastshilambo8571
    @nicolastshilambo8571 2 месяца назад +5

    Russell’s tire looked to fall off. Guess he couldn’t whisper to them anymore.

  • @KolyaBennett
    @KolyaBennett 2 месяца назад

    What team outside the top 4 will improve the most next season? Thanks in advance. Your videos are very informative.

  • @back_hom3
    @back_hom3 2 месяца назад +1

    I'm a Lando fan so obviously happy with the race, but kudos to Max for his drive in what seemed to be a tough car to drive, and for me personally Leclerc/Ferrari driver and team of the day by far. Shout out K-mag for setting up overtake(s) moment of the race 😄

  • @santamom_lolreal
    @santamom_lolreal 2 месяца назад +3

    you know its getting bad when verstappen fell onto charles with like 7 laps newer tyres

  • @imkingelijah
    @imkingelijah 2 месяца назад +28

    That understeer is horrendous on the RB. They need to fix their downforce upgrades to help with the balance.

    • @Awfully_good
      @Awfully_good 2 месяца назад +9

      Hahaha see what happens when the asymmetric braking is gone? 😂

    • @imkingelijah
      @imkingelijah 2 месяца назад +13

      @@Awfully_good RB never used those breaking systems. This has been disproven already

    • @AvocadoAfficionado
      @AvocadoAfficionado 2 месяца назад +4

      ​@@imkingelijahBy whom?
      Scarbs diagram was straight horsesh*t but that ain't the same RedBull as a few months ago - they've had to cut something off that they're now unable to put back on.
      The brakes are currently the most likely culprit the public is aware of.

    • @imkingelijah
      @imkingelijah 2 месяца назад +2

      @@AvocadoAfficionadothe recent F1 tech talk, go to 1:42. There is no proof FIA asked RB to remove anything and the mechanics themselves confirmed they never used those parts. The reason the RB is having these issues is due to the downforce effecting the balance of the car and the suspension not heating up the tires.

    • @AvocadoAfficionado
      @AvocadoAfficionado 2 месяца назад +4

      @@imkingelijah you're not reading my comment.
      It's obvious the car no longer has something it used to have in terms of handling. It's also obvious that Redbull is unable to add this part back to the car for whatever reason or they would have solved their current problem by.. just doing that.
      What this part is nobody knows (maybe it's just neweys massive brain) but the most likely explanation is that whatever they had to remove is no longer allowed to be placed on the car.
      What some guy on "techtalk" said is irrelevant. Most people are talking about brakes because that's all the public has heard anything about.. relevant or not.

  • @YUNGDRAYK
    @YUNGDRAYK 2 месяца назад +47

    Charles should’ve gotten driver of the day

    • @klausjager1826
      @klausjager1826 2 месяца назад +5

      Looks like Charles fangirs base is smaller than Lando

    • @agraiell5048
      @agraiell5048 2 месяца назад +9

      Why is anyone caring about that popularity contest award ? I don't get it . Both Lando and Charles were impressive in their own rights.

    • @YUNGDRAYK
      @YUNGDRAYK 2 месяца назад

      @@agraiell5048 boy calm down, it doesn’t matter anyways I was just voicing an opinion

    • @NotSamuzed0o0
      @NotSamuzed0o0 2 месяца назад

      ​@@klausjager1826only if he would have surpassed Verstappen.

    • @agraiell5048
      @agraiell5048 2 месяца назад

      @@YUNGDRAYK And i was voicing mine,boy.

  • @samghost13
    @samghost13 2 месяца назад

    I love it! Ferrari was not sure why they where so good and Red Bull is like the car is not working at all like they want to. Looking forward to Monza!

  • @kresostefancic
    @kresostefancic 2 месяца назад +3

    Sad to see AM can't beat Alpine

  • @endlessmotion2255
    @endlessmotion2255 2 месяца назад +6

    It's quite incredible to see Red Bull getting things wrong and looking so lost lately. Not just because they were looking dominant just earlier this season but because since they became competitive at the front all the way back in 2009, they've never really ever suffered in terms of losing their way when it comes to the chassis and aero package. It was all engine trouble with Renault at the start of the hybrid era which wasn't really anything to do with them. Seeing them like this lately is really quite strange and bizarre, even if I am quite enjoying it

    • @Ethanius_Zeus
      @Ethanius_Zeus 2 месяца назад

      It's because of their aerodynamic concept. Their main concept since 2022 was to prioritize the strength of the ground - effect floor and make it as low as possible without banging it up so it made their suspension way stiffer and It brought up a kerb - riding weakness since 2019 in slow and medium speed corners. Redbull has basically strengthened their high-speed corner and straight-line performance. Other teams like McLaren and Ferrari fixed purposing issues then went to strengthen the aero floor, RedBull is doing the Opposite

    • @mrthecodguy
      @mrthecodguy 2 месяца назад

      Ehm they started with renault?

    • @endlessmotion2255
      @endlessmotion2255 2 месяца назад

      @@mrthecodguy My bad, brain fade. Of course it was Renault

  • @shakesnbake
    @shakesnbake 2 месяца назад +1

    How much do you think Red Bull's deficit is down to the new regulation around assymetric braking? The RB20 used to be super kind on it's tyres, but now Max is complaining about grip more and more. Can you imagine if they didn't have Max behind the wheel - defininately not finishing on the podium today.

  • @danydeezy3243
    @danydeezy3243 2 месяца назад +3

    George the tyre whisperer cooked his tyres 😂😂😂

  • @samghost13
    @samghost13 2 месяца назад +2

    McLaren no longer has to use the Toyota Wind Tunnel and it shows. Forza Ferrari

  • @imkingelijah
    @imkingelijah 2 месяца назад +20

    The dirty air caused by the downforce created by these cars is a lot. The first undercut will always work.

    • @Randomvideos-zi7pe
      @Randomvideos-zi7pe 2 месяца назад +9

      which just showed the 2022 regulations is a massive flop

    • @imkingelijah
      @imkingelijah 2 месяца назад +4

      @@Randomvideos-zi7peya these regs suck. The cars are big like a boat and handle like a boat. When the cars are nice and nimble you can really see F1 drivers racing at the limit and throwing the car around each corner

    • @askeladden450
      @askeladden450 2 месяца назад +14

      ​@@Randomvideos-zi7pethere have objectively been far more overtakes than pre-22 seasons. Its far from being a 'flop'. And now we have 4 cars fighting at the front, which we havent seen since 2012.

    • @Randomvideos-zi7pe
      @Randomvideos-zi7pe 2 месяца назад +1

      @@askeladden450 it is a massive flop when the 2026 car is abandoning most of what the 2022 car is built for. Teams being competitive is another story.

    • @dj9959
      @dj9959 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Randomvideos-zi7pe Wouldn´t say its a flop, we definitely see more close racing now than the previous regulation, dirty air was a massive issue in the previous regulation to the point where racing was impossible no matter which track it was. However before the new regulations were established, teams did raise the point that with development the issue of dirty air will come back again no matter what FIA decide what to do. Think Spa is a good example of that being a major issue again with Mclaren and Red bull both struggled to overtake even though they were significantly faster than the cars ahead.

  • @mesterorange8181
    @mesterorange8181 2 месяца назад +1

    Tough day for a Hamilton Fan. But good for the championship. Thanks Miki

  • @Umar-gw6fy
    @Umar-gw6fy 2 месяца назад +2

    Redbull really have to sort their problems out if they want the wdc the wcc is basically confirmed to be McLarens, If lando wins the rest of the races and sprints with 5 fastest laps he will beat max by 1 point even if max is p2 in every race

  • @arbiter1
    @arbiter1 2 месяца назад

    I think its more of a rule change that happened many weeks ago least 5-6 weeks ago when races were decided by 20+ sec then was 2. Redbull was using something that got banned by the FIA and seems since their cars been avg.

  • @calebalxndr
    @calebalxndr 2 месяца назад

    Other teams catching up to you doesn't throw the balance of your car out the window. Whats missing from the RB is obviously asymmetrical braking.

  • @hilroydaniels5109
    @hilroydaniels5109 2 месяца назад +4

    If Mercedes didn't mess up their setup, Max would've finished P4 or P5. The next few races will be a lot worse for Max and Redbull.

  • @stevepiccinnin1157
    @stevepiccinnin1157 2 месяца назад +5

    Don’t think RB lost as much as Mclaren has gained

    • @KailamiMwiinga
      @KailamiMwiinga 2 месяца назад +3

      RB is definitely lost a huge chunk.. I mean LeClerc was catching Max on older tyres...

    • @anubiam3004
      @anubiam3004 2 месяца назад +2

      Undoubtedly RB has lost out compared to the other 3 top teams. If it was just 1 of the 3 closing the gap and out running RB, that would be one thing. When all of the sudden the RB is clearly at best 2nd best car, and some race 3/4th, that is a team being out developed.

    • @stevepiccinnin1157
      @stevepiccinnin1157 2 месяца назад

      @@KailamiMwiinga yeah and Lando set the fastest lap on the last lap.. beating Hamilton on a new set of softs .. tell me that’s not suspicious…. Betcha Mclaren is up to some hanky panky

  • @sushantpawar1461
    @sushantpawar1461 2 месяца назад

    This all happening bcoz of these big reasons
    1. The wind tunnel which mclaren now have, it has the most updated technology in f1 industry and it is giving them exact data which is needed to develop car. ( Aston soon will also have new wind tunnel which is another latest wind tunnel lets see how it goes)
    2. Rob marshell who was the chief designer in redbull, he and his team knows how and where to put parts inside an f1 car which make the car more efficient. As he worked with adrian for so long and developed car as per adrians vision that knowledge is benefiting mclaren.
    3. Mclaren creates there own Gearbox and rear of the car which is the most important part of the f1 car, thats the reason why they are faster than mercedes bcoz they dont use Mercedes gearbox which gives them freedom to create their own suspension setup and other parts.
    4. As mclaren is growing and growing redbull choose path to develop a car similar to mercedes last year and now adrian stopped working their other technical head dont have a direction on how to develop this car which is very different from rb19 while current mclaren current car is an extension of rb19 and it is becoming better and better.
    5. Now bcoz of cost cap redbull cannot bring their rb19 car bcoz they already invested on current design so there no going back now and they have to continue like this for the rest of the season and hope that max can hold off.
    This season will go down the wire like 2021 and 2012. Now only max might and most importantly luck can hold lando.

  • @MIXDJ3000
    @MIXDJ3000 2 месяца назад +1

    I think Red Bull is doing what Mercedes did early on with testing parts. Mercedes only got it right late in the first half of the season so hopefully this doesn't effect them that much because I wanna see a fight. And Red Bull also need to watch out for Ferrari and Mercedes as well. A scenario that can happen but unlikely is Max can drop to p5 or below and Lando gets podiums every race.

    • @anubiam3004
      @anubiam3004 2 месяца назад +2

      P5 would mean that Max is running 7th each race or the RB suddenly became unreliable. He has built up quite a cushion on everyone. If Lando can in front of Max at each race he has a chance, but 1 bad race (no pts) where Max gets even 15-18points and it become nearly impossible without a lot of help. It looks as though McLaren will stay up in the front pack each race and the Merc/Ferr are more a threat to RB and could create the buffer for Lando to chase Max down. Any given weekend the 7 race winners could win again and it wouldn't be a complete shock to me.

  • @ashitkotian2396
    @ashitkotian2396 2 месяца назад

    People saying its asymmetric braking, then why its just Mclaren that is quick. Why it is that RedBull suddenly didn't fall off after Miami. RedBull brought bad upgrades and went downhill, even Mercedes team stated that.

  • @ts777b
    @ts777b 2 месяца назад +1

    idk man, I like seeing different people challenging for wdc/wcc
    but lando is cocky when he wins and childish and upset when he doesn't
    still hope, that it'll be close in the end though
    ferrari seemed to be the second fastest car today, which was surprising, hopefully we can see more from them as well in the next races
    all in all the best season so far since the regulation changes

    • @imkingelijah
      @imkingelijah 2 месяца назад +1

      Don’t fully agree with you as a McLaren fan, but I don’t like that its Lando doing the winning. I would definitely prefer Oscar

    • @ts777b
      @ts777b 2 месяца назад

      @@imkingelijah i don't really care who's winning, if it's many different drivers
      it's just lando's attitude that i find to be let's say "unpleasant" at times haha

    • @imkingelijah
      @imkingelijah 2 месяца назад +1

      @@ts777bcan definitely see how someone could think that. But I don’t know the guy personally so I can’t comment. Just would prefer Oscar to dominate Lando as revenge for Ricciardo 😅

    • @ts777b
      @ts777b 2 месяца назад

      @@imkingelijah yeah i'd like to see that too lol

    • @agraiell5048
      @agraiell5048 2 месяца назад

      @@imkingelijah The Aussie is showing m8. For the moment being,hope for Oscar to dominate slower cars first.

  • @waltersheens1087
    @waltersheens1087 2 месяца назад

    Lando thrrowing his car through the turns today, using all the track he wanted, Max had to back off and be gentle on the steering. McLaren sticks to the track way more than Redbull. Max from now on will need to pickup max points where normally he only drives to win and hope his team will improve the car..... Max won't like this but F! needed this.... Hope for an epic but fair battle up to Abu Dabi last lap😀

  • @williamdalgren7240
    @williamdalgren7240 2 месяца назад +2

    Not suprised if Max ends up fighting Mercedes, Ferrari and Piastri in a lot of races. Norris is not going to win every race, but Max will not get 2nd in every race either. This ain´t over yet.

    • @agraiell5048
      @agraiell5048 2 месяца назад +2

      Was hoping today for Piastri to challenge him at least,but he was very poor today. Hopefully more drivers can challenge at the front the upcoming races,and this will turn out to be a very interesting end for this season.

    • @Spyk27632
      @Spyk27632 2 месяца назад

      Lol Singapore i say max will finish p7 at best 😂😂😂 the curbs,the car already doesnt turn and they admit its shit over curbs hahah max to bin it into wall during qualy😂

  • @MarbleGiant
    @MarbleGiant 2 месяца назад

    Is Max’s heart in a future at RB? I feel the performance and team dynamics have him in a less motivated place.

  • @klaushaunstrupchristensen7252
    @klaushaunstrupchristensen7252 2 месяца назад

    Like many I have been thinking about why Red Bull have suddenly fallen behind. Sadly I am a complete layman so everyone is allowed to take my theory with a laugh. But here’s my theory anyway. The only way I can think of which would make an agile car as a formula one car resist turn in to the degree showed in your footage is a super highly aggressive differential lock system. If we imagine a car without a differential it would have fantastic traction and extreme resistance to turning. So if we imagine that the Red Bull runs with a very aggressive differential lock it will explain why it’s so fast of the line leaving the McLaren’s in the dust at the start of the races and it will also explain why it’s under steering into corners. And now here comes my second element of why The Bull’s have fallen behind. Perhaps the talks about asymmetrical braking are not related to the braking system as such, maybe they had a differential which could distribute the engine braking asymmetrical which would induce oversteer at corner entry and compensate for the under steer caused by the highly aggressive differential locking. If this is what has been forbidden as asymmetrical braking, then they are faced by either making the car lose traction because they would have to use a less aggressive differential or lose a good turn in into corners. Greetings from Denmark

  • @themarimo3324
    @themarimo3324 2 месяца назад +1

    If only Mclaren did not do a P1 driver swap, Lando may have had a chance at winning the championship

  • @joelpierce3940
    @joelpierce3940 2 месяца назад

    I wonder if the RB 19 would be better? Are they required to have a new car every season?

  • @ACHRAF1644
    @ACHRAF1644 2 месяца назад +3

    Ohhh that McLaren giving me mercedes vibes 😅

    • @pushanchowdhury4411
      @pushanchowdhury4411 2 месяца назад +3

      u mean armchair with rockets..abu dhabi 2021 was sweet 😂

  • @mesterorange8181
    @mesterorange8181 2 месяца назад

    Could be that the RB is mot good in dirty air too

  • @Mbartel500
    @Mbartel500 2 месяца назад +1

    There is a fair chance that Max will not win the championship this year. Red Bull is imploding and Lando is taking off like a rocket. Remember, there are two sprint races as well, where Lando will probably outscore Max.

    • @ua697
      @ua697 2 месяца назад +3

      2 wins don't make a summer

  • @einsteinalbert8372
    @einsteinalbert8372 2 месяца назад +1

    Max was so back of mclaren tv channels thought bottas was p2 for a few seconds there. Lol

  • @mannjoya68
    @mannjoya68 2 месяца назад

    Max didn't need to race Lando as he is just managing his position with a slower car against every one else behind him so the gap didn't represent anything since max isn't chasing!

  • @Snazzy16
    @Snazzy16 2 месяца назад +6

    It’s interesting to think we have races like Baku and Singapore that are coming up which RedBull might struggle more at. McLaren seems to be amazing everywhere. I think it’s very realistic to think lando could win the WDC but he still needs to get a hold of those starts

    • @KarenTondro
      @KarenTondro 2 месяца назад +2

      Max will get the wdc, but man if checo continues to be horrible mclaren will win WCC

    • @anubiam3004
      @anubiam3004 2 месяца назад +2

      So frustrating as a Lando fan, to know he starts on pole, but won't be leading coming out of turn 1.

    • @WH0oo...
      @WH0oo... 2 месяца назад

      For Lando to win the WDC, he would need to tie the old record of 9 consecutive wins in a row. Riiiiiight! Little Chucky got lucky because of the car. His reputation to dethrone Charles as the pole pisser is still in play.

    • @KarenTondro
      @KarenTondro 2 месяца назад

      @@WH0oo... I mean he did lead by 20 seconds today, yikes 💀
      As a max fan, I hope max wins in monza, and the other races in the calendar

    • @WH0oo...
      @WH0oo... 2 месяца назад

      @@KarenTondro by seconds doesn't matter, it's more than 8 points consecutively that should be the metric that matters.

  • @doorkman13
    @doorkman13 2 месяца назад

    If this season wasn’t so competitive I really feel like we’d all be talking about how bad Fernando has been. It’s starting to remind me of his McLaren years, where if he’s not running in the top 5 he kind of just gives up. He’s just not being vocal about it.
    Also, wtf is going on with Sauber my god they’re bad.

  • @lebbzawagamer
    @lebbzawagamer 2 месяца назад

    That was a good race

  • @jesperlehmann4336
    @jesperlehmann4336 2 месяца назад

    I'm pretty sure Lewis won at Silverstone, 😉 and if I'm not completely wrong, it was Spain that was max's last win😊 Have a good one guys 👍

  • @thearsenalmisfit2414
    @thearsenalmisfit2414 2 месяца назад

    Oh come on, It's the Fia focing red bull to remove the asymmetrical braking system . This system helped the car through the turns and also helped the tire preservation. This has also slowed then down coming out of the corners so they don't have that dominant top speed on the straights anymore. They got busted big time but it's been kept pretty quite by the FIA. I imagine Ferrari are pretty pissed at the FIA right now as the made an example of Ferrai quite publicly when their engine wasn't lepgal. They even penalized them the next season putting some pretty harsh restrictions on them.
    How this wasn't mention in this video is beyond me.

    • @kennyg1358
      @kennyg1358 2 месяца назад

      Because it's bullshit with no evidence.

  • @Srga91
    @Srga91 2 месяца назад

    Could it be that Red Bull hit the development ceiling with the RB20 or was their pace at the start of the season just a false dawn?! Anyway, the recent signs are not great news for Red Bull and Verstappen. The car is poorly balanced and is lacking downforce. This is why Red Bull started to put more wing on the car, because the drivers otherwise chew up the tyres even more.
    To make matters worse, the last couple of tracks actually suited the RB20 and they still failed to win at anyone of them. Now with Monza, Baku and Singapore coming up we will see circuits that don't suit their car (almost no fast corners and lots of kerbs). I'm curious to find out how Red Bull and Verstappen will fair at those.

  • @myz06rocks
    @myz06rocks 2 месяца назад

    unless that RB starts blowing up every second time Max races it, I don't think there's a real chance for Lando here. Not to raise conspiracy theories here but the performance drop since FIA's crack down on asymmetric braking seems a coincidence.

  • @midas7394
    @midas7394 2 месяца назад

    In industrial engineering, 90% of the solution to the problem is to identify the problem. In this race, the only difference between the Red Bull car & the Mclaren car is that the McLaren car gives the driver an amazing tire advantage.
    As the Red Bull team usually has the optimal tire usage, during the race, it's logical to expect the red Bull team will use this races data to figure out what is needed to restore optimum tire usage so that they can bonce back to winning again next week. Ha-ha

  • @hector.abrach
    @hector.abrach 2 месяца назад

    Checo is not as bad as people make him out to be. Max is a 120% driver while Checo is a 100% driver. In fact, Checo struggles ought to have been a canary in a coal mine event for the car.

  • @beany1987
    @beany1987 2 месяца назад

    Red bull and mercedes both seam to really struggle on hards, unless its warm for mercedes, but Red bull have struggle on them all season.

  • @MrIDFWU
    @MrIDFWU 2 месяца назад

    The red bull car clearly was running something illegal. The drop off is to much considering they have added”upgrades”. What they’ve added is a replacement which ain’t agreeing with the car atm

  • @daveduncan2748
    @daveduncan2748 2 месяца назад +1

    Without the asymmetrical braking to help him steer into corners, Max is struggling. Was he ever as good as we thought he was?

    • @Spyk27632
      @Spyk27632 2 месяца назад

      As good as every one else. He could on some tracks be better than others ,they are all evenly matched up. Give most of them a winning car and they will be capable.

    • @ua697
      @ua697 2 месяца назад

      Hamilton P8

    • @daveduncan2748
      @daveduncan2748 2 месяца назад +1

      @@ua697 P8 is some kind of code for Lewis's 8 championships compared to Max's 2? Yes, 8 and 2, no person with eyes gives any credit to the 2021 championship that F1 blatantly stole from Hamilton and gifted to Max. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what you are referring to. ;-)

    • @ua697
      @ua697 2 месяца назад

      @@daveduncan2748 Verstappen's race win ratio exceeds Hamilton's, but nice try though 😎

    • @daveduncan2748
      @daveduncan2748 2 месяца назад

      @@ua697 Well, of course, he and F1 have been cheating for at least the last four years.

  • @Appletank8
    @Appletank8 2 месяца назад

    on the other hand, if Max isn't doing an well, maybe Perez's performance doesn't look as bad.

  • @P_Camps
    @P_Camps 2 месяца назад +1

    ASSYMETRIC BRAKING! The correlation is too great especially considering that car was a space ship 2 months ago

  • @tonyseath2278
    @tonyseath2278 2 месяца назад

    One dnf for max and it's wide open
    Peace brother
    :0)

  • @Beginnerguitarist10
    @Beginnerguitarist10 2 месяца назад

    I think Max's late dive on hamilton Might cost him in läßt race😢

  • @Keepraging
    @Keepraging 2 месяца назад

    oh how the turn tables

  • @hamza12ism
    @hamza12ism 2 месяца назад +1

    im getting more and more frustrated watching aston martin

  • @MooNwALKER....
    @MooNwALKER.... 2 месяца назад +1

    Not coincidental since Newey left RB!