No doubt. Over the years I have camped with several differnt groups. Everyone wants to show off their gear and techniques. I call it shock n awe. But thats the fun of it. Enjoyed the video and look forward to more.
I too use the night-ize figure nines and I love the ease of use. I know some people cringe because of the weight. Im a NC rescue ropes instructor and tie knots all the time and I still love those things. I am 230 lbs. and was concerned about failure so after I set the rope in the figure nine, I tied a couple of safety knots in the webbing loops( I use a python strap for tree huggers) just in case. I also hang in a Hennessey and I found that tying off my hammock guy lines to my tarp guy line saves me from having to use extra stakes. it works great for me. Great set up you have there. Happy hanging
Ronald Ellis Thanks Ronald, the figure 9's have always worked for me and I feel confident they will keep me off the ground. (good idea w/ the back-up knots). You've got about 80 lbs. on me so with that being noted I can rest even more assured that they'll hold up, lol! Thanks for watching and take care!
I too was looking into the warbonnet. I like the bug net and saddlebag features. Not impressed by the price though. I use the "great guide tarp" I got mine off ebay but I'm sure Amazon has it too. It's the bigger one 11x11 I think. It was the least expensive for the lightest weight I could find. It's huge and has held up well. I use it when I'm expecting rain. Thanks for the reply and hang loose.
Enjoyed the video, especially the hat, Who Dat! Just finished a weekend in an Eno with katrina tarp. Looking at new tarps now as you can imagine. :) Pulled a ridge between my two caribiners the second night and got a much nicer flat lay to sleep on. Like your system and thanks for sharing the video.
Lol!...I was reading threads on SaintsReport when your comment came through my phone (weird huh? :) Glad you liked the video, and I gotta say this particular hammock set up has really worked out well for me over the past couple of years or so (takes a while to get things the way you like it...and every hanger is a little different) but I think I can live with this system for a while. Honestly, I think I have more fun trying new / different set ups more than just laying around in the hammock :) Looking forward for some warmer weather to get that puppy back in the trees...C'mon Spring! Thanks for watching, take care, and most importantly...Who Dat!
so, the "Hitch" (from what i understand) is called a toggle. you made an amazing knot for the hitch, and if you put your line from your hammock onto the back of the knot rather than the figure 9, you could technically hold the amount of weight that your hammock and suspension can hold. Keep it up!
Nice set up, I used to have HH but I got tired of trying to get in the hammock and then try and get into my sleeping bag, especially at night when you have to pee. However they are a great sleep. I use an eno now and like just being able to jump right in and pee over the side at night. (just sayin) I really like the way you tie up your loose ends I'm going to start using that. I also like your tarp set up. I'm still trying to find out what I like. Seeing your set up gives me some good ideas. Thanks for sharing and enjoy the outdoors!
Thanks, I agree in regards to the bottom entry (can be a pain, and makes lounging a bit harder) I got my sights on a Warbonnet BB and in hindsight I would also opt for a larger tarp maybe 10x10 or 10x11...just cuz I like "plenty" of coverage. Oh yeah,...loose ends drive me nuts!
Who dat back atcha! Should be an exciting year. Trying to figure out where to go make an overnighter in this heat thats close to the Big Easy. Any you showed up on the river. :))
Its a nice kit you have. Altough i think all the clips, figure 9's and other hardware arent needed if you just learn how to tie knots. So buying lightweight stuff, to minimize the weight on items that you dont need, sounds a bit weird to me. Besides that, i like our video. Its fun to watch and yougive a good explanation. Keep on hanging ;)
Hutjeopdeheij Yep, I know what you mean....I gave up on the whole "ultralight" thing as I became obsessive over ounces and I realized it was taking me away from enjoying my time in the outdoors. Now I choose more of the "moderately lightweight but reasonably comfortable" style of backpacking. I used to use a hammock lashing to hang the hammock, then prussik knots for the tarp , but I always found myself having to tie and re-tie to get it just right(especially when it rains) With my system everything is easily adjustable w/o using and knots at all. I would happily add a few oz's back to my system with gadgets/clips etc. as it makes the whole experience bettter IMHO:) Now I try to stay somewhat light, but no more counting grams...it's just too fussy. Thanks for watching and happy hanging to you as well!
Pete Braginton I just readin about weight classes when backpackin earlier today, Some there called it comfort light (CL) backpackin. Carryin what you feel is comfortable while in the great outdoors.
I keep my tarp in some snake skins and on a continuous ridge line which runs under the tarp. Go around the tree and hook the carbiner to the line and tarp then do it at the other end. Adjust the tarp so it is centered over the hammock and stake it out. Or leave it in the skins if it is going to be a nice night but have it overhead just in case, There are several videos on how to do the continuous ridge line. The hammock is keep in a Bishop Bag.
for people watching this video who want to do a similar suspension system, I would highly recommend the Nite Ize Cam Jam XT solid aluminum cord tightener. They have a weight rating of 980lbs each and are very rugged, I use them for my hammock and they work great, they're also a better option in my opinion because they do a better job of locking the rope and are very easy to tighten.
I like your set up, pretty similar to mine :) though mine has no hardware and I weigh about one third less than you do. How mine works, is I use one set of three straps, and run webbing from them, to where I need it, Either tied off in a marlon spike hitch with a thick piece of bamboo, or a becket hitch. Sometimes the becket hitch is really too slippery which is why I use the bamboo on the MSH. I haven;t gone backpacking in a while, though for the super light kind of hammock, I keep it in a zinched up beanie hat bag. Seems to work pretty well I keep the hammock ridgeline in there, and also like you have a rigging line bag. I even use a similar one to that, minus the dutch hook hardware. I keep two little carabiners and a type of prussik hitch that wraps around 4x before coming back to lace into the first two wraps and being pulled :)
very nice setup and I like the tensioners on the tarp guide lines. the knot you did to the figure 9 was called a marlinespike hitch if you were curious
Clouds Rain Nope, I missed that too. I tie about a 4" piece of paracord on the main (hammock) suspension line about 1' up from the gathered end. If any rainwater begins to travel down the line it is interuppted by the small paracord "wick" and drips down harmlessly to the ground. Hope that made sense...Thanks for watching!
Hey Pete, Great Video, I like your setup, one of the best I've seen on youtube. Please could you let me know where you got the Titanium Dutch Hook and Dutch Fly from? And your Stuff sack (Bishop Back)? Cheers Mate
Thanks for the kind words! The Dutch Flyz and Dutch Hooks...and the Bishop bag for that matter, all came from jacksrbetter.com. (shelter accessories). Great folks there! Thanks for taking an interest in my set up & take care!
I've seen somewhere else that the Grip Clips don't slip on silnylon if you put two pieces of balloon plastic or a similar anti-slip material on both sides of the tarp, so the clip holds them. Take a look at this web: shelter-systems.com/gripclips/ultra-light-silicon-tarps.html
very cool stove!!! question for u sir: how comfy was that type of air mattress for you?I was told that the vertical type of mattress are much more comfy.there are some pads that makes one feel as if they were in a swimming pad
Hey George, I LOVE that mattress (Neo Air Trekker All Season). Actually, I find the horizontal baffles more comfortable than the vertical baffle type. However, the vert. baffles seem to "lay" better in a hammock where as the horizontal seems more "bed like" while tent/ground camping. Either way, that pad is warm, warm, warm, & pretty light as well. Thanks for watching!
not bad, but your safety margin on them figure nines is way into the negative. most generally you would want a 3 to 1 to be safe. having 1 on each end does not make them rate to 300lbs, each one will bare all of ur wieght
You dont need to go through all that its just so simple he dont know i live in a hammock and tarp made a simple jungle under quilt and this is how i live free in Hawaii he dont know its a waist of time spingolli
too much complaining about minor details of folks videos.. these vids arent meant to be engineering seminars, instead fun reviews of what each does & what works for them.. knots will replace hardware, yes but folks like the small clips & hooks etc.
Very nice kit. I like your guy outs and ridge line quick and easy adjustments. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for posting - I enjoyed watching your hammock set up. Very good and educational for new hammocker.
No doubt.
Over the years I have camped with several differnt groups. Everyone wants to show off their gear and techniques. I call it shock n awe. But thats the fun of it. Enjoyed the video and look forward to more.
LOL! That's classic! ." Shock N Awe"....Good stuff!
Know what ya mean!
That hitch is called a marlin spike hitch. Easy and fast for hammock set . Thanks for sharing.
This is one of the better videos I have look at, great job..thanks
I too use the night-ize figure nines and I love the ease of use. I know some people cringe because of the weight. Im a NC rescue ropes instructor and tie knots all the time and I still love those things. I am 230 lbs. and was concerned about failure so after I set the rope in the figure nine, I tied a couple of safety knots in the webbing loops( I use a python strap for tree huggers) just in case. I also hang in a Hennessey and I found that tying off my hammock guy lines to my tarp guy line saves me from having to use extra stakes. it works great for me. Great set up you have there. Happy hanging
Ronald Ellis Thanks Ronald, the figure 9's have always worked for me and I feel confident they will keep me off the ground. (good idea w/ the back-up knots). You've got about 80 lbs. on me so with that being noted I can rest even more assured that they'll hold up, lol! Thanks for watching and take care!
I too was looking into the warbonnet. I like the bug net and saddlebag features. Not impressed by the price though. I use the "great guide tarp" I got mine off ebay but I'm sure Amazon has it too. It's the bigger one 11x11 I think. It was the least expensive for the lightest weight I could find. It's huge and has held up well. I use it when I'm expecting rain. Thanks for the reply and hang loose.
Enjoyed the video, especially the hat, Who Dat!
Just finished a weekend in an Eno with katrina tarp.
Looking at new tarps now as you can imagine. :)
Pulled a ridge between my two caribiners the second night and got a much nicer flat lay to sleep on.
Like your system and thanks for sharing the video.
Lol!...I was reading threads on SaintsReport when your comment came through my phone (weird huh? :)
Glad you liked the video, and I gotta say this particular hammock set up has really worked out well for me over the past couple of years or so (takes a while to get things the way you like it...and every hanger is a little different) but I think I can live with this system for a while. Honestly, I think I have more fun trying new / different set ups more than just laying around in the hammock :) Looking forward for some warmer weather to get that puppy back in the trees...C'mon Spring!
Thanks for watching, take care, and most importantly...Who Dat!
WhoDat
Awesome awesome awesome.
I want to setup my Grand Trunk SKB the same way when it arrives!!
that perfect. thanks again for the feedback. & thanks for good videos. stay well
so, the "Hitch" (from what i understand) is called a toggle. you made an amazing knot for the hitch, and if you put your line from your hammock onto the back of the knot rather than the figure 9, you could technically hold the amount of weight that your hammock and suspension can hold. Keep it up!
Nice set up, I used to have HH but I got tired of trying to get in the hammock and then try and get into my sleeping bag, especially at night when you have to pee. However they are a great sleep. I use an eno now and like just being able to jump right in and pee over the side at night. (just sayin) I really like the way you tie up your loose ends I'm going to start using that. I also like your tarp set up. I'm still trying to find out what I like. Seeing your set up gives me some good ideas. Thanks for sharing and enjoy the outdoors!
Thanks, I agree in regards to the bottom entry (can be a pain, and makes lounging a bit harder) I got my sights on a Warbonnet BB and in hindsight I would also opt for a larger tarp maybe 10x10 or 10x11...just cuz I like "plenty" of coverage. Oh yeah,...loose ends drive me nuts!
Who dat back atcha! Should be an exciting year. Trying to figure out where to go make an overnighter in this heat thats close to the Big Easy. Any you showed up on the river. :))
I am 300+ and the figure 9's work great for me!
I'm about 240 and use them also.
Its a nice kit you have. Altough i think all the clips, figure 9's and other hardware arent needed if you just learn how to tie knots. So buying lightweight stuff, to minimize the weight on items that you dont need, sounds a bit weird to me.
Besides that, i like our video. Its fun to watch and yougive a good explanation.
Keep on hanging ;)
Hutjeopdeheij Yep, I know what you mean....I gave up on the whole "ultralight" thing as I became obsessive over ounces and I realized it was taking me away from enjoying my time in the outdoors. Now I choose more of the "moderately lightweight but reasonably comfortable" style of backpacking. I used to use a hammock lashing to hang the hammock, then prussik knots for the tarp , but I always found myself having to tie and re-tie to get it just right(especially when it rains) With my system everything is easily adjustable w/o using and knots at all. I would happily add a few oz's back to my system with gadgets/clips etc. as it makes the whole experience bettter IMHO:) Now I try to stay somewhat light, but no more counting grams...it's just too fussy. Thanks for watching and happy hanging to you as well!
Great explanation m8. enjoy hanging :D
Pete Braginton I just readin about weight classes when backpackin earlier today, Some there called it comfort light (CL) backpackin. Carryin what you feel is comfortable while in the great outdoors.
I keep my tarp in some snake skins and on a continuous ridge line which runs under the tarp. Go around the tree and hook the carbiner to the line and tarp then do it at the other end. Adjust the tarp so it is centered over the hammock and stake it out. Or leave it in the skins if it is going to be a nice night but have it overhead just in case, There are several videos on how to do the continuous ridge line.
The hammock is keep in a Bishop Bag.
for people watching this video who want to do a similar suspension system, I would highly recommend the Nite Ize Cam Jam XT solid aluminum cord tightener. They have a weight rating of 980lbs each and are very rugged, I use them for my hammock and they work great, they're also a better option in my opinion because they do a better job of locking the rope and are very easy to tighten.
Garret R 980? You mean 280?
Theball Player the ones I have have a max load rating of 980lbs
Theball Player oh I see what you mean, yes they say on them 280 but the breaking strength is around 850
Garret R Yeah, major difference between breaking strength (static load) and load limit (dynamic load), but two should hold decent weight.
Nice system thanks hope you enjoy
I like your set up, pretty similar to mine :)
though mine has no hardware and I weigh about one third less than you do. How mine works, is I use one set of three straps, and run webbing from them, to where I need it, Either tied off in a marlon spike hitch with a thick piece of bamboo, or a becket hitch. Sometimes the becket hitch is really too slippery which is why I use the bamboo on the MSH. I haven;t gone backpacking in a while, though for the super light kind of hammock, I keep it in a zinched up beanie hat bag. Seems to work pretty well I keep the hammock ridgeline in there, and also like you have a rigging line bag. I even use a similar one to that, minus the dutch hook hardware. I keep two little carabiners and a type of prussik hitch that wraps around 4x before coming back to lace into the first two wraps and being pulled :)
Like the extra big tarp... Good set
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Ahhhh!...That's it, marlin spike...knew it was one of those crazy hitches...appreciate it!
Munter hitch. Great hitch for tarps and hammocks.
very nice setup and I like the tensioners on the tarp guide lines. the knot you did to the figure 9 was called a marlinespike hitch if you were curious
Very cool
i use to use pennies bro kinda like that sierra blah,blah i did that if i didnt have a grommet your good cheers
What about water seepage at the end points? Don't think you coveried it or I missed it, thx.
Clouds Rain Nope, I missed that too. I tie about a 4" piece of paracord on the main (hammock) suspension line about 1' up from the gathered end. If any rainwater begins to travel down the line it is interuppted by the small paracord "wick" and drips down harmlessly to the ground. Hope that made sense...Thanks for watching!
Pete Braginton Very nice of you to reply, thank you. I subbed and liked you as well. Take care.
Hey Pete,
Great Video, I like your setup, one of the best I've seen on youtube.
Please could you let me know where you got the Titanium Dutch Hook and Dutch Fly from? And your Stuff sack (Bishop Back)?
Cheers Mate
Thanks for the kind words! The Dutch Flyz and Dutch Hooks...and the Bishop bag for that matter, all came from jacksrbetter.com. (shelter accessories). Great folks there! Thanks for taking an interest in my set up & take care!
I've seen somewhere else that the Grip Clips don't slip on silnylon if you put two pieces of balloon plastic or a similar anti-slip material on both sides of the tarp, so the clip holds them. Take a look at this web: shelter-systems.com/gripclips/ultra-light-silicon-tarps.html
Saw these a while back....seems perfect!
The balloon trick works o.k. just a trick to get them set.
very cool stove!!! question for u sir: how comfy was that type of air mattress for you?I was told that the vertical type of mattress are much more comfy.there are some pads that makes one feel as if they were in a swimming pad
Hey George,
I LOVE that mattress (Neo Air Trekker All Season). Actually, I find the horizontal baffles more comfortable than the vertical baffle type. However, the vert. baffles seem to "lay" better in a hammock where as the horizontal seems more "bed like" while tent/ground camping. Either way, that pad is warm, warm, warm, & pretty light as well. Thanks for watching!
+Pete Braginton The vertical baffle type seem to feel like sleeping on a pool raft ( always roll into the center like a taco) Hope that helps you out!
Marlin Spike Hitch.
Tom Keir yes. Marlin spike hitch. Where did I get Munter hitch. lol to much knot work at work maybe. Thanks man
not bad, but your safety margin on them figure nines is way into the negative. most generally you would want a 3 to 1 to be safe. having 1 on each end does not make them rate to 300lbs, each one will bare all of ur wieght
Marlin spike Hitch. ;) This is an ok, setup, but not that light or efficient. Good job.
Without reading back through all the comments that posted before me - marlin spike hitch on your suspension.
where did you get that tarp??
Taylor Town That tarp is an 8' x 10' Sil-Nylon Flat tarp from Ettowah Outfitters " made in the deep South"
You dont need to go through all that its just so simple he dont know i live in a hammock and tarp made a simple jungle under quilt and this is how i live free in Hawaii he dont know its a waist of time spingolli
nice bro =)
taking much time
Why not go with a less complicated system?
I guess I'm a complicated guy :)
I personally enjoyed this because it is well designed, engineered and thought out (some may call that complicated)...
too much complaining about minor details of folks videos.. these vids arent meant to be engineering seminars, instead fun reviews of what each does & what works for them.. knots will replace hardware, yes but folks like the small clips & hooks etc.
Hahahaha!!!
that perfect. thanks again for the feedback. & thanks for good videos. stay well
that perfect. thanks again for the feedback. & thanks for good videos. stay well