Sekigahara Aftermath | Sengoku Jidai Episode 58
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- Опубликовано: 17 фев 2022
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With the battle of Sekigahara having ended, the victorious Tokugawa Ieyasu seeks to cement in authority over the land in the aftermath of the great clash.
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Sources Used:
"Sekigahara 1600: The Final Struggle for Power" By Anthony J Bryant
"Samurai Battles" by Michael Sharp
"A History of the Samurai" by Jonathan López-Vera
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If a samurai commander lost his head the victor will clean it up and send it to his family, but if a footsolider lost his head they put in a pile to rot away.
Mostly, they would bury it in mounds.
I bet Ieyasu and co. could have never imagined in their wildest dreams that some 420 years in the future some internet samurai nerds would be discussing the ins and outs of their every move in great detail.
@Ethan S They'll just talk about how the world was lead into Hell by a bunch of Globalist maniacs who thought they had all the answers to mankind's problems.
@Ethan S p.s putin and virus
@Ethan S Are you sure about that?
And we don't know what will result of current events in the near future.
Regardless, there's more going on than the unnamed virus of unknown origin.
@Ethan S i think historian just all try to milk everything about modern conflict like Syria war and Russia invasion of Ukraine
Why would they have any reason to imagine that???
Ishida Mitsunari maintained his pride and honor to the very end, when he reached the Temple he attempted to shelter at, the monk there asked what he needed, expecting him to say food and water, instead Mitsunari exclaimed what he needed was, "Ieyasu's head!"
When asked why he did not commit Seppuku, he is said to have intended the pursuit of his person and his execution to be a further burden on Ieyasu.
Even on the way to his execution when he was offered a persimmon, he declined as it would 'affect his digestion' when his fellow captives pointed out that didn't matter as he was about to be executed, he replied, "One can never know how things will turn out so one must always take care of one's health."
Pride for championing the Toyotomi? But his lord, Hideyoshi, is also a usurper lol. Usurped power from Oda's heir.
Mitsunari is just a lowly insecure dog. Shooed away potential allies, made enemies during the Imjin war and ruled out strategies from veteran generals, just to name a few of his blunders. He was not the right man for the job but he acted like he was. The downfall of the western army should be greatly attributed to him.
I copied this from a site, but there is a great story about Mitsunari on the way to his execution.
The captured trio of Ishida Mitsunari, Ankokuji Ekei, and Konishi Yukinaga were publicly exhibited around Osaka with metal rings around their necks and carried through the city streets in a large open crate. Mitsunari was made to shout out his alleged crimes in a loud voice and describe the troubles he had caused as a further embarrassment. The three of them were further exposed to public ridicule in Kyoto. On November 6, they were executed at Rokujo-ga-hara, the dry riverbed of the Kamo River in Kyoto. Their heads were then put on display beside the city’s Sanjo Bridge.
Mitsunari never gave up hope. A well-known story is that on his way to the execution grounds, Mitsunari was offered a persimmon, but refused it on the grounds that it would be bad for his indigestion. Konishi, his partner in death, is said to have remarked that as they were about to be executed, it was hardly necessary to consider his digestion. Mitsunari replied that, “As one can never tell how things are going to turn out, one must at all times take care of one’s health.”
what site
Kinda ironic to think that what Ieyasu did to Mori clan, lead to chain of revanchism that finally avenged 250 years later, when Mori led Choshu Domain, finally toppled Tokugawa family in Boshin War
250 years later
Tokugawa Iyeasu is the luckiest guy in feudel Japan history if u ask me...
Luck favors the prepared mind and Ieyasu has been preparing for this for a long time.
Luck always plays a significant factor in the lives of historical figures. For example William the Conqueror faced numerous situations early in his life where he could have died long before he even had a chance to contest the English Crown.
Imagawa Yoshimoto should’ve been shogun!
Ieyasu was destined to this crucial moment of Japan History. His Expirience along with Imagawa, Nobunaga, Shingen, Hideyoshi and others teach him some good lessons...
Didn't he loose his wife and son?
The fact that there were two head viewing sites at Sekigahara speaks to the numbers of prominent Western Army samurai who died at the scene. In my opinion the fact that the Tokugawa were able maintain cohesion in the Eastern Army and prevent a consolidation of the remaining Western Army forces was probably a greater feat than winning the day at Sekigahara. In fighting amongst various factions of the Eastern Army could have prevented Tokugawa from imposing his will and led to a continuation of the Sengoku Jidai, for an indeterminant period of time. The war was not truly ended until power of Tokugawa Shogunate was dominate, throughout Japan.
That's IMO the sign of a great leader to keep such a strong cohesion.
It would be cool if there were a samurai game that was open world, open character development, with little plot beyond what the player wants to do. The player would just roam around the open world, interacting with npcs and other players (in both good and bad ways), developing in skill and amassing their fortunes, establishing a clan or staying as a ronin. Have damage remain and effect the mobility of the character, once healed the wounds turn into scars. Granted it would be for a niche market, but that is the game that would bring me back to playing.
LIke a taikou risshiden game , but that game's artwork is mostly interactive fiction
The most similar game that comes to my mind is a mod for Mount & blade warband called Gekokujo. Search for it. It is very good
Are you talking about Straw Hat Samurai Deuls?
It be cool if you did a deeper view on the last head taking ceremony it must’ve been the greatest head taking ceremony in history with so many big names not to mention those who they took a live and forced to kill later they must’ve wrote a lot about it instantly
Just like it had been recommended in numerous texts of strategy, the battle of sekigahara was won before it ever began; secret pacts.
I know this might be more focused on the battle than the aftermath, but it'd be interesting to know the perspective of the people who lived nearby, or perhaps even on the battlefield itself. They probably didn't think too kindly of a bunch of samurai coming by just to tear each other to pieces.
Well, actually blood and corpses make for good fertilisers. The corpse piles would stink maybe for a year or two, but eventually the field of the battle could have been the most productive farmland in the country.
Try to google about "Ochimusha-gari" a k a Samurai hunter gangs
Theyre vigilante self defense groups who hunted any tunaeay or stray Samurai
I have been told my family name was Okada and was in service of the Mori as a high level advisor, we lot power and land after this battle, but my Ogasawara side prospered as they sided with the Tokugawa. we took the name Ogata during the Meiji restoration and left Okada I guess as a new beginning Kanji is ko-kata.
That’s so interesting about Japanese culture or just an incredible coincidence. When katsuyori takeda was ultimately betrayed at the end, I think nobunaga punished those same lords who weren’t loyal to their master. I guess punishing the Mori who I thought would’ve been in Tokugawa’s good graces. But I guess the Mori probably were the only other powerful player left, I guess it might’ve been calculative to put them in with the other western lords
Kikkawa Hiroie appears to have been very distraught when his secret pact with Tokugawa was voided. Not least of which because Ieyasu initially proposed to give him 2 provinces as his domain after stripping the Mori of their land. However Hiroie pleaded with Ieyasu to preserve the family and in effect Hiroie's potential reward for betraying Mitsunari ended up being the lands the Mori got to keep after being punished.
Thus is the fate of Traitors. The Mori lost most of their lands and power as a direct result of Kikkawa's treachery and Kobayakawa became a drunk, going mad haunted by nightmares of those he'd betrayed, dying a mere two years after his great betrayal at Sekigahara without any heir, leading to the confiscation of his family lands.
Tokugawa used this opportunity to destroy the Mori after the war. Had Mori committed his troops or had Mitsunari listened to Shimazu and made the initiative during the night i think Western army would have still won. But the descendants of Mori and Shimazu would have their revenge much later.
@@grandadmiralzaarin4962 that is a moot point why? Because this is the last in a chain of treasons that started all the way back to honnoji. If mitsuhide didn't betrayed nobunaga things would have been different
@@james-97209 not really moot. Think about it. The shogun betrayed Nobunaga and met ignominious end, Nobunaga betrayed many of his own and died due to betrayal, Toyotomi betrayed Oda and were in turn betrayed ending their dynastic ambitions, the traitors at Sekigahara met with ignominious ends and finally the Tokugawa were betrayed by the descendants of the Shimazu and Mori ending the Shogunate. Traitors die ignominious deaths.
@@grandadmiralzaarin4962 have you heard tale of Marshall Jean Bernadotte ? He was a Marshall of the French empire Napoleon but in 1810 he was elected crown prince of Sweden and upon his arrival he became practically the head of the state. 3 years later in 1813 he decided to betray Napoleon(it was Napoleon's influence and the fear that he inspired in Europe that got him elected) and this led to the war of 6th coalition and eventual 1st abdication of Napoleon. And he his dynasty is the royal house of Sweden so yea unfortunately traitors sometimes get away in the end. But back to the sengoku jidai the point of my comment was that the mori kinda deserved that for throwing their lot with mitsunari and especially hideyoshi who I think was kind of a treacherous moron especially in his later years (there is a reason why the theory that hideyoshi was involved in some way in the honnoji incident is rather popular)
- Treason is loved by many , traitors by none
Aesop
Thanks for the new video which as usual shows to us another viewpoint to think about the topic. I' like to highly appreciate your time and ceaseless efforts in studying and making your video series.
Sekigahara aftermath: Yoshikawa's book Musashi begins.
Brilliant book, that!
This will be an interesting chapter in this series. Looking forward for the next episode.
Amazing video!
Love the thumbnail colors for part 4!
Thanks for the info. Much ❤ as always
"If the cuckoo doesn't sing, wait for it." - Tokugawa Ieyasu.
Thanks for the video & information 👍🏻
Well done here.
Excellent work.
Ieyasu Tokugawa: Checkmate
I've been following you and watching your videos for a long time already and I see that finally the sengoku jidai is about to end with the Osaka campaign.
I don't know what you have in mind but it would be very nice if after you have shown how the Tokugawa Shogunate has come to power, you demonstrate how it ended.
I suggest a new serie about the bakumatsu. There are a lot of stuff you can approach 😍🙏🏻
WOW i Just finish all of the season for the second time and this pops up. Very cool
Woah there! Nearly slipped through my notifications 😃
Funny picture for Matsudaira Tadayoshi. He was thirteen years old at the time.
It's kinda amusing in a way Hideyoshi became the first Unifier but had so many problems with his heirs but the Tokugawa seemed not not have any problems and lasted a long time not sure how long the Tokugawa Shogunate lasted, there is one person Teruzumi Akashi a Lieutenant of Hideie Ukita in Kessen it stated Ieyasu hated him more the Ukita, not sure why kind of surprised he wasn't mentioned in the battle he must have done something important in the battle to cause Ieyasu to want to hunt him down so badly.
i love it and it is very good
Pour one out for Mitsunari and the Western Army. The Western forces generals were always more interesting to me honestly. Western Army 4 life!
"Mitsunari held his head high, he did what was right, he had championed the Toyotomi name in the face of one who would usurp it" the absolute irony in that when the Toyotomi only came to power because they did usurp the power of the person they were meant to protect and champion for. the Toyotomi were a family of traitors, they deserve their fate.
That goes for the Oda clan as well, they were supposed to serve the Ashikaga Shoguns.....
@@Etzellll the difference is the Ashikaga had never done anything for Oda, they came to him and he helped them even if only on the surface and the Ashikaga betrayed Oda multiple times. Hideyoshi on the other hand was nothing before Nobunaga, Nobunaga brought him up from nothing into one of the most powerful lords in the land, everything Hideyoshi had was because of Nobunaga and how does he thank him? by usurping his family and turning the Oda into a tiny useless clan. absolutely disgusting, Hideyoshi should be remembered as the great traitors not a founder.
The more I've learned of Mitsunari, the more I've come to admire the man.
@@mikeehrmantraut1899 they aren't but they sure as hell should be. Hideyoshi is remembered as 1 of the 3 unifiers but really she should just be remembered as the second great traitor along with Mitsuhide, Mitsuhide started killing the Oda but it was Hideyoshi that did the killing blow
@@grandadmiralzaarin4962 He's an ass. He made a lot of daimyo enemies during the Imjin war as an overseer. Writting "unfair" reports back to Hideyoshi. Damn, a daimyo could lose his life or his landholdings if wrong reports were sent back to Japan. His loyalty to the Toyotomi is, for plenty of reasons, the only thing admirable in him.
I was hoping we go over other battles that came during this time such as the Sieges of Hasedō, Udo & Yanagawa. Oh well.
It's a pity that this video is not longer:(
How did the samurai even search heads? Considering 30,000 samurai died, How did the tokugawa army soldeirs know which head was that of a prominent samurai considering common ashigaru and samurai would not have even seen high ranking daimyos their entire life?
usually the helmet, higher ranked soldiers and Samurai had flashy looking helmets.
You should do a review of Sword of the Stranger it's a good anime samurai movie.
Interesting video at the least
Tho ngl i know want to know above anything else what happened to the shimazu and sanada
Part of me wonders what punishment Mitsuari would have levelled on Ieyasu if the Western Army would have lost.
Do a video about life for the common people during the Sengoku period
Yay!
Well, Tokugawa Ieyasu may have united Japan under his banner but the long standing reign of the Tokugawa will be overthrown by the combination of the Choshu, Satsuma and Tosa natives who happen to be somehow descended from the Mori, Shimazu and Chosokabe warriors who defied the Tokugawa during the Battle of Sekigahara.
Just like the Sengoku Jidai, the late Bakumatsu Era featured major players like Saigo Takamori, Katsura Kogoro, Sakamoto Ryoma, Takasugi Shinsaku and the Shinsengumi
It's like they were getting a late revenge.
@@BountyFlamor yep, they took time to plan their revenge and they waited for opportunities to seek their redemption
They could not have done it if not for Foreign Assistance.
@@itsrye8001 And a bit of Imperial shenanigans
And afterwards they themselves get wiped out during Shiroyama because they couldn't see that the age of samurai was over
And so the wars were over, and Ieyasu could just go ahead and rule without opposition... Unless some people that had yet to be taken out decided to split him in two, or something like that.
I think it would be nice if you could present lives of important figures separately
Tokugawa Ieyasu : Mori terumoto , I don't like anybody to break any oath even to my enemy. As you have broken your oath to fight for the Western Army, I am reducing your estates and punish you
Kobayakawa Hideaki : (heavy sweating and breathing)
Like what was the point? He turns coat for someone and still gets punished?
@@Yusa_Beach well mori troops did the same thing but got punished
I just finished Komyo ga Tsuji (the taiga drama from 2006 that was about the lives of Kazutoyo Yamauchi and his wife Chiyo and Yamauchi serving under all three great unifiers (Nobunaga, Hideyoshi, and Ieyasu) and I noticed that you never mentioned anything that happened between 1600-1603.
In 1601 Ieyasu sent Katsutoyo Yamauchi to Tosa to take over after the fall of the Chosokabe and how they invited the Chosokabe retainers to a fake sumo tournament before gunning them all down Red Wedding style. I’ve seen arguments that it did happen and that it was also a fabrication, but the crucifixion of 73 dissidents on the beach seems to have been legit. I’d be interested to hear your take on the matter if you ever see this.
I realize this video is like two years old and don’t know how well RUclips notifies people about comments on old videos.
Could a paper 📄 pusher like mitsunari be shogun if he won 🥇? Or would the coalition break down and some other dude reap the benefits?
The Kanto King becomes Tenkabito.
Kuroda Nagamasa is overlooked so much though.
What do you intend to do after you've covered the Siege(s) of Osaka ? Will you make videos concerning events of the Edo period ?
I do want to move into the Edo period but I will also be going back to fix old videos as well
This series is almost done....
next, the battle of Osaka
So the mori gets disgraced for being traitors but not the kobayakawa? 🤔
Nominal reason:
Hideaki Kobayakawa actively participated in last Phase of the battle
Theoretical reason:
Ieyasu eant to show discord between Kobayakawa clan with Mori clan, weakening Mori in the long run
why didn’t the samurai go into guerilla war after a single battle? all that honor talk and giving up so easy😢
Mitsunari shoulda seppuku
He declined the offer I think.
hi
It’s strange Japanese feudalism was solidified with Japanese unification while it was destroyed when China unified under The First Emperor. Didn’t Tokugawa learn anything from Chinese history?
Unlike China, Japan didn't necessarily follow the patterns of a "mandate of heaven" which is largely a Confucian political construct. Peasant leaders and foreign invaders don't change the the Japanese political establishment the way it happened numerous times in China.
@@mikotagayuna8494 Until a well-developed fleet of foreign intruders did (besides signaled warnings from a sympathetic trading partner), and thus the age old decadent but stable feudal structure would crumble in the face of old vendettas and inevitable restoration.
@@shinsenshogun900 That's true but the changes were self-directed and those who comprised the new government were still mostly from the old ruling caste.
@@shinsenshogun900
Commodore Perry?