308 Winchester or 7mm-08 Remington? Which is Better???
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308 Winchester or 7mm-08 Remington? Which is Better???
As an old cowboy in Montana told me back in the 1970's "son, there aint an animal on gods green earth that can't be killed with a hammer - IF your good enough." That said I love 6.5 (.264") 7mm (.284") and .308 (7.82 mm) bullets in many cartridges and have taken many deer with all over the years. 260 Remington, 7mm/08 and 308 being favorites. And all utilizing the same case, just necked to different bullet diameters. Great video!
The 7mm08 is a hand loaders dream
That's right. Good bullet weight selection and availabilty,. 7mm08 is right on the heels of .280 Rem. Deadly at typical hunting ranges.
That’s why I like it and I don’t need 165 to kill anything around here my elk days are counting down If that’s the deal I built a 300 wsm just for that 1:12 185 Berger’s
So is 308
243win, 260rem, 7-08rem, 308win 338fed and 358win. The 308 case family amazingly versatile. It’s hard to pick a favorite.
Don't forget the 6mm BR (6mm Norma BR) , .277 SIG Fury, .375 Raptor, .45 Raptor, .307 WIN (.308 Marlin Express, .356 WIN, 6.5 JDJ)
Ive taken Deer with both...and they perform great. Never lost a deer with either cartridge....but 308 is usually cheaper and easier to find most times.
That is the reason I stick with the 308
That's right. At practical ranges not much difference. I like them both.
Which caliber has less recoil ? In your opinion !!
@@elvinirons5959 feels similar. But 7mm08 supposedly had less recoil and is usually good for kids or woman or new shooters.
@@bradbo3 I just bought a T/C Demension in 7mm-08 n haven’t fired it as of now but own a couple 308 n wanted to try the 08 out for the less recoil, thanks for your response !!
If memory serves, the 7mm08 was designed for sales in countries where there was a prohibition against the use of military calibers. Jeff Cooper suggest it for use in his "Scout Rifle" if you were in such a country The two are identical in practical use. Both good choices.
I like both equally but I stuck with my .308 just because of the availability of ammo and the ability to utilize heavier projectiles for elk moose bear hunting . The 7mm-08 will take those critters as well but the .308 has more frontal area , larger wound channel and better stopping power say on a charging animal .
Have both, prefer the 7mm-08, but hard to beat the 308 ammo selection and availability.
I didn't realize they were so close. I went with 308 for multiple platforms for the availability, but I see how the heavier boolots do better at longer ranges. Do I ever dream of catching anything past 200? Nope. But cool to see them all stacked up against each other.
It’s bullaught
I like the 308 mainly on price and availability ! Happy Friday everybody! whoteewhoooooooo
The 308 might have a bit lower ballistics, but the 308 more than makes up for it in selection, availability, and cost. Also, I have an ar-10 and a bolt action that both shoot 308. And the larger cross section is not nothing. I like them both, but the 308 is much more practical.
I handload for both… both are great can’t go wrong either way not picky on powder
As a hunter, the energy charts are more important than the drop chart.
.308 for the win
I see what you did there
308 is my choice. Took my first deer and first moose with a cheap remington 788 rifle in 308 cal with a basic Tasco scope.
Thanks for the videos. 🇺🇸😁👍
I ran the same setup except mine was in 7mm-08. Those 788's are fugly, but man can they shoot.
7mm08 is my favorite rifle cartridge behind the 7mm Mauser. Both great cartridges and very similar ballistics
Same here. Ended up selling mine last year though, because of the lack of available ammo. So purchased the same rifle but in 308. Also figured that any advantages the 7mm has over the 308 would be lost on the distances I'm shooting anyway.
I didn't know anything about the 7mm-08 Remington until 2000!
I started hunting with a 20 gauge single shot.. in 1982.. graduated to the 303 British in 1986.. and bought my first rifle in 1991 a 30-06 Springfield!
After using the the 30-06 for nine years.. I wanted something light weight less recoil accurate too! I researched different calibers and firearms and decided to purchase a Remington 700 chambered in 7mm-08.
Boy what a difference in recoil and accuracy! I now could shoot half moa consistently with several brands of factory ammo. Without the pounding on my shoulder!
However.. heres the thing.. the deer that I harvested with these three center fire cartridges didn't know the difference! But my confidence was boosted by being able to shoot the 7mm-08 consistently better 😊
More range time too!
Since then.. I've tried other calibers.. the 350 Remington Magnum the 350 Legend the 358 Winchester and got the same results! But the 7mm-08 remains to be my favorite cartridge for whitetail deer!
Thanks for sharing this brother
Thanks for watching!
.308/7.62×51=NATO round. Easier to find and barter. I prefer 165-180 gr to thump deer size game, and it's a solid Elk round as well. If the military converts to .277 Fury i'll grab a 5lb, 16" barrel mountain rifle and use that there on out.
I'd stick with the 308 because if nothing else the availability and there's not that much difference in performance but there is in price and how avaliable they are.
Yep. I like and use both. But your logic is dead on in my opinion.
You did alot of work for this one. Great information! I have a. 308, so probably don't need a 7mm-o8.
I have both. The 7 is a Tikka T3, the .308 is in a Ruger American, a Savage 99 and a Winchester 88. All are just plain fun to shoot.
Reloading the 7mm08 is the way to go.
Funny thing..I just reloaded a bunch of Barnes and Hornady boolats…165 grainers in my .308 and my 300WSM. RANGE DAY COMING UP SOON!
Oops..the Barnes are 168…
I can't say I remember seeing any 7mm08 ammo in my local gun shops in years. They always have 308, which is what I shoot for deer, and hogs.
Love this video, I shoot 308 and never shot 7mm before because I never had to go past 100 yards! Great job showing the difference!
Nothing past 100yds your good with a 223 or 7.62x39. Heck if 45 acp was a legal cartridge you'd be good with that.
@@user-cl2ls7kz7o i shoot 5.56 and 308 the most but i have plenty more to have fun with
You will never notice a difference really. I have both and have killed deer with both. If you are happy with the 308 don't buy a 708. In my opinion.
I have Both and I really do not have a preference for 1 or the other! I will hunt Bear with the 308(under 300 yards) and Not the 7mm-08. I use the -08 Deer and Elk hunting! Better distance with the 7mm-08! WTW, using the 180 grain 308 round is a Outlier. MUCH heavier the the rest of the field! Having said that, If in wooded country I use my 30-30 or 35 Rem. I have NEVER taken anything over 350 yards! It's ALL about shot placement NOT the Bullet or the firearm!
Thanks for sharing. I'm a big fan of 7mm-08 but have an appreciation for 7mm in general. I started with the 7x57, then 7mm Rem Mag. All will get the job done. It seems the most prolific bullet is the 140 grain in 7mm.
I love 7x57mm Mauser
Yes sir, the 140 is the one I liked reloading if I can find it. I'll sud with the 130.
I go .308 because of availability in Rifles and ammo, not taking anything away from the 7mm-08.
Out to 400 yards a deer won't know the difference but out to 150 yards I prefer a 308 just because it has more kinetic energy and the 7mm08 at farther but you can't go wrong with either caliber
My model 700 7mm-08 is my go to gun. Had it for many years. I really like it. Just bought a whetherby 308 the other year. Haven’t shot it much but I still like it too. I prefer my 7mm-08 over my 6.5 creedmoore. Great video!
7mm is probably a better round for most things I do but I still shoot 308, can always find ammo and it definitely does the job. 7mm maybe slightly better but useless to me if I can't get ammo. Can be difficult at tomes here in New Zealand
I think your comment sums it up well. The 7 should be what the 308 is in terms of popularity. I have a 308 as a result. :)
My 350 legend drops everything I shoot at. 7lb recoil. My longest shot in 40 years was 175yds. Ammo is half the price too. I used 7mm-08 and 243 for 37 yrs. Sold all my hunting rifles and use my Ruger Ranch. Oh I did keep a 243 for long field shots which ive never taken lol. 243 wallops deer at 300 yds. thks WTW
Mogulrider- I have a 350 LGD in a Mossberg Patriot, and a Savage Axis. These bolt guns are a pleasure to shoot, and have low recoil. Given that most people take game at moderate ranges, what more could you want? Okay, I do want one in an AR...😁
@@duranbailiff5337Out west for sure do they take long 300yd + shots. In my region it's very rare. Deer, Bear, Moose, are usually under 200yds. We are heavily wooded. But yes they need horsepower in other regions for sure.
@@mogulrider Being that I live in East Tennessee, we rarely get distance shots in the field. When considering the old-timers, they certainly put meat on the table with 30-30, and the trusty old 12 gauge shotgun. Think about how many huge gators and giant boars get put down with the lowly 22LR.
@@duranbailiff5337 We are Canada. Growing up in Alberta my first 12 animals as a kid were with a marlin 336. 30-30. I still have it for sentimental reasons but I don't use it anymore. I took 4 moose, 6 deer, and 2 black bear with that 30-30. Very capable under 200yds. this is my point I think. People over gun for hunting. They poo-poo a 30-30 which is an outstanding bullet and also the coolest hunting weapon there is imho. My family was fed for 20 years with 3030s (brothers, uncles, etc). But the 350 Legend completely changed my hunting preferences. That 180gr drops bear, moose, deer like nothing I've seen. If you totaled the distance of all the animals taken with it it would 20yds. My brother took a moose last fall in Alberta. He was deer hunting and 1000lb bull came out. One the engine room, one in the shoulder (standard practice regardless of calibre) and it was down. Guys are calling 350 L a kids gun. Complete BS
I bought my wife a 7mm-08 for deer hunting and she's sold on it. I shoot a .308 but wouldn't hesitate to use 7mm-08 myself. A little less recoil than .308 so you can get away with a lighter rifle without any issue (not that .308 is hard kicking anyway). Great content as always!
Appreciate you watching Mark
The 7mm-08 was the worlds most accurate cartridge for like 20+ years, awesome target round.
7mm-08 came out in 1980. very nice round but i will stick to my 99 savage in .308, never had a problem with any moose i downed with it. happy hunting people!
They are very close and most game would never know the difference when shot by either caliber but that being said the ammo is a whole lot easier to find and cheaper in most cases for the 308 over the 7-08. I like the 7-08 better but have very few 7-08 in my collection also because there is a whole lot few used guns for sale used in the 7-08 then the 308 but I think you can’t go wrong with either caliber
Great video! Apple to Apple comparison. BUT, for us poor working class folks, 308 will win because of availability and price. I stocked up on federal non-typical in 150gr before COVID, $13 per box. Vs $28 per box for 7mm-08. That's a LOT more dead deer and pigs for less $$.
7mm-08 is doing it with less recoil, plus if you add in a 150 grain 7mm-08 them numbers would be a bit better to the 308 also..
I say 308 because I have one, and my rem model seven is wicked accurate. Small light and accurate extremely fast handling. Great woods deer gun.
I have both of them it’s more how I feel,about taking where I go hunting at I don’t have more then 100 yard shot
Personally I prefer a 7mm over a 30. Across the board. I have a couple 308s and 7mm-08s. Im no professional so my filling on it is just that. I just prefer the 7mm. Now in the case of 308 vs 7mm-08. There is a difference in felt recoil. I believe its a good round for young shooters.
Trophy bonded is key! It is type of bullet! Spire points have more drag! Reloading gives more accuracy And ability to tune rifle!
First time on your channel. I like your rambling 👍. Great video. I've been wanting to get a 7mm-08, and now I will!
Thanks for watching!
Been a very long time. Been very busy with the marines. I’m back now! Amazing video as always. You never disappoint
Hey Samuel! Appreciate you watching!
My only reason for picking the 308 is I can never find the same ammo twice for the 7mm-08 got to pick up what I can find every box got to revert for different ammo
All Of this is good info Who-Tee-Who but Bullet performance is the most important, if that bullet does what it should then
mostly not a problem nothing beats expansion and penetration to get the job DUN 👍🏻 I guess shot placement helps too.
Please do a 6.5 and 7mm-08 comparison.
As always, great info.
Keep up the great content .
Good idea
my 308 ruger american loves the 150 grain norma whitetail
Excellent breakdown of the differences. I've always said the bullet matters much more than caliber. I down graded from a 7 mag to a 243 because i wasn't shooting more than a couple hundred yards for deer now. I'm also starting to gravitate to the TTSX or LRX bullets over traditional cup and core.
I really like both calibers both of them built on a 308 win casing
I have both. 308 in semi auto and 7mm08 bolt gun. For me they have different roles and application
I just recently got a really good deal on sportsmans guide for some shotgun slugs and am very pleased but, they had awesome rifle ammo prices too if you have the free shipping. This is a really interesting good vid
165gr Sierra game king 308 doing 2715fps dropped my elk in one shot this year. Jacket seperated and core was under far shoulder. Elks insides were devastated
I'm a 7mm08 fan, .y Sako 85 in 7-08 has never let me down and does everything I need it to do, will never part with it, my eldest grandson will end up with it one day, good vid WTW, take care and stay safe cheers Yogi 👍🤘🇦🇺
I just bought and experimented with 2 6.5 creedmoor barrels for my AR-10's, and a couple lowers and triggers sets to shoot the small .264 bullets with the same setups.
That's my favorite deer round with much less recoil.....great knock down power especially vs. the God forsaken 6.5 CM. Try the 150gr Norma Whitetail in 7mm08 it's the best!
I agree with you on the 6.5 Creedmore, the craze is unjustified. It was disheartenening to go to a gunstore and see dozens of 6.5 CM chambered rifles and no blammo. I would go with the tried and true .260 Rem before the CM. My favorite 6.5 is my Grendel in a Ruger Predator bolt gun. One day I look forward to getting one in the AR or AK platform. Why not both? 😍
Norma whitetail good bullet in 270 win to like half inch at 100 yards
@Joshua Hammond What rifle are you getting those groups with?
I also use Norma Whitetail for my Tikka T3 Hunter!
It shoots them .67 inches at 100 yards! I tried Winchester Ballistic silvertips and got .55 inches at 100 yards! I also tried Hornady whitetail and I get 1.37 inches at 100 yards!
I went with Norma Whitetail due to being able to find the ammo and harvested a nice eight point with it too!
@@duranbailiff5337 Was considering a 6.5 Grendel. Have you deer hunted with it? If so, how has it done? Thanks.
I live in the west, out here, beyond the horizon.
Both seam anemic to me. But we all shoot 7 mags and 300 win mags.
Great video and very informative. That's a lot of good information. It comes to if someone is a thirty caliber lover your not going to change their mind.
I own love and use 30-06 loaded hot and heavy, 308 fast and 7mm-08 stock it works with 150 ELDX perfect for me. I own several rifles in all 3.
7mm 08 is flatter great round
Never used the 7mm-08 always loved the .308
Can't speak to the difference from raw diameter, but for those curious about handloading, 7mm-08 has weights as low as about 115 and up to 170 I believe, so you get a lot of variety with the same powder capacity and more efficient outer dimensions which is pretty cool
Fabulous conjecture, and I have shot all the above, .300 Winchester Magnum still doing it for me. My Uncle loves the 7mm Remmington Magnum, he even said he coudl pierce the track of a railroad iron. Well that being the best of all worlds for me, my dad was stuck on his Colt .270 and took a lighter rifle trekking more times than I ever will most likely. After shooting my friends 7 mm I have decided to look into a better recoil setup, and that is now my grail what hits hard and don't knock my shoulder out of socket.
500 yards ? 🤔 mean while my longest shot ever was 62 yards with a 170 grain.30-30 ! The venison was delicious! 🦌😎
I ended up with a 7mm-08 by chance. Hit an 8" target at 300 yards first time first squeeze and it gets 3/4 groups at 100!
Mate I just want to add theres a 135 g Winchester Bullet also theres a 140g Bullet Regards Trevor.W.Bacelli. Qld Australia.
Don't have a 7mm, but my Remington 700 loves the 150gr Big Green .308...😊
I thinks it's worth having a bigger selection of 308 ammo, but the 7 is still cool
I have both, several rifles in both calibers. I prefer the 7/08 myself. I bruise easily taking blood thinner.
I finally messed with a 7mm-08 a couple years ago. As far as reloading they are pretty similar. As far as butchering the damage basically the same. Really either would be an awesome deer rifle.
I handload for both. Both are awesome cartridges to shoot, but for me it comes down to availability of components.
308 brass, and I guess factory ammo is way easier to come by and typically cheaper. .284 bullets on the other hand, are cheaper locally, but brass is nigh impossible to find, even online in Canada. Factory ammo is running well above $45 a box for decent hunting ammo in 7mm-08. PPU 140gr PSP is under $35 but not consistent in groups or velocity data and that's the cheapest on the shelf.
Basically it's an " are you an ass or tiddies?" Kind of question. It just depends on how I'm feeling that day.
it's just about trivial to convert 308 brass to 7mm-08 brass ... I'm sure you've thought of this...
Great video! I also love both rounds, but I do have one warning for 7mm-08 shooters. If the only thing you can find is Hornady 139, superformance bullets make sure you can ensure proper placement, we've lost two deer and killed two. That gun shoots a .7 moa with that round and a .4 with Nosler 140 BT. Those are hard to find. With my Christensen Arms DMR Fiochii 180 Hyperformance, I shot an elk at 160 yards she was in the move, and the bullet went high left, yes she spooked before the shot and I bricked. The follow-up shot hit her esophagus, but the energy in both stopped her from running and put her down. Nothing has moved from that DMR. 150 core lokt in a deers blood factory put it down now.
This is why after 60+ years of hunting reloading and collecting rifles I only use premium bullets when hunting elk no matter what caliber I am shooting!
Love both, Had one of the 1st 7-08s in 1980 in a 788 Remington Carbine. Many large PA bucks have fallen to both. Here's my take .. MUCH more 308 factory ammo available, AND for larger game , Elk , Black bear etc I'd definitely go with the 30cal . And Military Snipers plus Law Enforcement loved the 308 for decades
For regular hunting rifle, both are fine. But for hunting and combat rifle, 308. Very practical and commonly available.
243 added would have been interesting since it's the same parent case. Cool comparison
Hum, tough choice between purchasing 7mm-08 versus Creedmoor, don't have neither, though the 08 has more versatility.
As said prior, I have a hair up my brass for Creedmoor cause I drive past that facility often.
I have a brass pin 700 bdl in 30-06 it has a stock like glass and is one of my prized possessions.. it shoots 150's good 165's good 180's a little better and 220 grain round nose almost hole for hole at 200 yards .. I really wish it loved something light on the shoulder but 59.2 grs of varget and a 220 gr sierra I know when picking it up it will do they job
Well that’s an easy question to answer, do you want deer hunting. Or general combat? 7mm 08 is a great. “Weak” round for hunting, light. Small. But still 30 cal, basically in short range performance, Luger recoil. That’s what yin give the small.weak. Fun Nato. Is the real round for combat, and the hale. Medium machine guns, DMR’s, snipers. Along with actual. Effect in target, you get bigger, heavier rounds, more payload, knots terminal effect.
Of the two my choice is always the 308 just for the simplicity of finding ammo. Of the 308 family my favorite is the 260 remington for accuracy in my rifles.
If you compare 2 calibers, you should consider performance. Of course the 7mm-08 can't compare to the 308 in availability since the 308 is a military caliber and we all know what that means. While there isn't a very wide variety of loads available in 7mm-08, it is wide enough for almost every hunters needs. If you want best trajectory with less drop and and drift, you have to balance velocity and B.C. A 140 grain 7mm has pretty much the same trajectory as a 165 grain 308. They have similar BC's and velocities. So they are both very close in everything but recoil. As much as we like to say we're not bothered by it, everyone is bothered to some degree. The lower recoiling rifle will allow you to practice more and become a better shooter faster. What your comparison shows is that the typical 308 deer load of 150 grains is soundly beat by the 140 grain 7mm-08. You have to shoot the 165 308's to match the trajectory and that will increase the recoil even more. When you consider energy, you have to remember that all varieties of game are killed using arrows and handgun calibers that have very little energy. The usual bandied about number of 1000 ft-lbs for deer is irrelevant with today's modern bullets. If your bullet doesn't perform at long ranges, the amount of energy means nothing. Shoot a deer with a FMJ bullet and it doesn't matter if it has 1000 ft-lbs or 2000 ft-lbs it won't kill well. You have to chose a bullet that will perform at your maximum range limits. These two calibers are very close in performance except for recoil and that make the 7mm-08 the winner. Specially if you want a light hunting rifle. That's where you'll really notice the difference in recoil. If rifle weight isn't important to you, well the reduced recoil of the 7mm-08 will make it easier to see the trace and impacts. I've hunted with the 7mm-08 since the early 90's and everything I've killed only needed one shot and that includes 2 moose. The 308 would have done the same thing but its just easier with the 7mm-08.
Adam. Thanks for share this one. Very educational . I have 2 @ 308 but really wanna add a 7mm 08. Like you said I cant find 7mm 08 thats why I just got the second 308.
You can't find ammo or rifle in 7mm-08?
Correct.
Great show and thanks for the info my friend 👍👍👍👍
From what I have seen, the 308 and the 7mm-08 seem to be on two ends of the Goldilocks zone. The 308 tends more toward lethality while the the 7mm-08 tends more toward wind resistance.
I'm 100% 7mm08 fan boy here. Everyone jumped on the 6.5 Creedmoor bandwagon, and I didn't understand why when the 7mm08 does everything, the 6.5cm can and does it with more energy. Rem has always had awesome loads like 7mm08 and 25.06, but their marketing wasn't as good as others, and that's why they weren't as popular.
I suspect 7mm-08 might be the better cartridge for extended range precision target work, but only by a small percentage.
7mm-08 is my deer round. Hands down.
One thing you forgot maybe two first being recoil between the two and second the Hornady SST 139 gr with 41 grains! 7mm .284
168 gr 30-06 always used to be my favorite. Plenty of energy and velocity to my personal maximum range, 400 yds. I just found them more accurate.
Either will work. New shooters or people that don't like recoil go with the 7mm/08.
Okay Brother, now you need to compare the 7mm.08 witht the .260 Remington!
I have both and I like the 7mm08 if you reload. Hornady at least loads high BC bullets for it if you just shoot factory ammo. If you reload you have tons of very good high BC bullets for long range work.
I love “geeking out.” Thanks for the fix. 😊
Thanks for watching Mark
I would like to see a .243 Win & .260 Rem comparison. I have a Savage in .243 Win and am thinking of re-barreling it in .260 Rem; like you said just to be a little different.
If you have a .308 Winchester, there is more ammo availability because you can also use 7.62 NATO.
Ammo availability is key whether you hunt or are into self defense. Also cost can be a factor if you keep any amount of it on hand.
The 7-08 does have certain ballistic advantages over 308 relative to trajectory. But the 308 is no slouch on accuracy or distance shooting either. I like semiauto rifles and there are more of them in 7.62x51.
Nice comparison WTW, I like the 7mm-08, but just harder to find than .308.
I love the 7-08 and has dropped everything I have pointed it at. My gun really liked the Hornady 139gr superformance and even better my hand loads with 139gr SST.
Sub moa all day long, easy on the shoulder and did great here in southern Idaho.
Great video wtw ... I'd love to see 223 vs 222
I'd like to see something done with a 280 personally it's a really underated caliber and I don't understand why
280 is cool but very expensive rifles and ammo
@@whelen250 I personally don't like a 35 wheelen because of the bullet weight and choices don't care for 30 calibers
@@whelen250 the 270 didn't kill it because it's superior over a 270 and the 270 was brought first what killed it is when Remington brought a 7mm Remington Magnum out if anything but the 280 ai is making a comeback you can even get factory ammo for it
I like .280 Rem. It's definitely a killer. It was getting strong for a while then slowed down.
@@WHOTEEWHO I'd kinda been thinking about a savage ultralite in a 280 ai they are some good factory offerings in it and I like a 7mm is a high bc bullets even in a 150-160 grain I may end up going back to a 7mm Remington Magnum though I Texas heart shot a deer years ago with a 150 grain blastic tip and was a mess to field dress I won't ever do that again was a young kid and didn't know any better and learned my lesson
308 Winchester 168 grains sierra match king or 168 grains Hornady are best.
I like the 7mm-08 vs the .308 in a very light, short action rifle with a 22" barrel. If you want to step up to a 30, you're better served stepping up to a 30-06 with a 24" barrel to take advantage of heavier bullets with higher BCs and sectional density. Nothing "wrong" with the .308 though, especially if you hunt in areas where ranges are under 300 yards. Points about the .308's availability are valid.
If I’m recalling correctly, assuming you have two bullets of the same weight yes, the smaller diameter will have a higher ballistic coefficient AND more sectional density. HOWEVER, the larger diameter, assuming the same weight and same length barrel, will usually leave the muzzle with more velocity and it will take quite a distance downrange to realize the advantages of the higher BC.
I'll be waiting on the 7mm-08 at 1000 yds video. Enjoy the info. Thanks.
Yep same mate would be a good vid
I like both ,but I would choose the 308 because ammo is so easy to find local for me anyway, thanks for posting
Dont have or fired a 7mm-08, but looking at it vs a 308 ballistics wise the 7mm-08 has advantages thst are clear to see. You pair that with some 140-150 gr. Match stuff and you're good to go. Or go light and have lots of velocity
Essentially, a 7-08 has a softer recoil impulse and for a deer rifle, it can definitely do the trick. You would have to go to 7 PRC to push heavier bullets faster, which will increase the recoil impulse. This video is one of the best comparisons with easy-to-read graphs. Out to 400 yards, it really does not matter what you shoot to get a deer. It's the longer ranges where PRC rounds or even the 7-08 do better. But if not hunting past 400 or 500 yards, then the farther reach is primarily for targets and competition.
But, yet, there are a number of wildcat rounds for people who like to tinker or find a specific solution for a problem. For example, I have no use for .224 Valkerie. Yet, there it is, a thing, and plenty of good people use it for valid reasons.
I have a number of .308s, which has been my favorite round for a while. And easy to get. And plenty of inexpensive rifles in that caliber. One of my .308s with a medium bull barrel likes 180 gr. Another sporter barrel likes 165 grain. Even the cheapest rifles are averaging 1 MOA and getting sub Moa on the first two shots, which is very necessary for hunting. I am not taking more than 3 shots at an animal, if I even get that many.
Now, for long range? That is going to be my 7 PRC, which is a wild cat hot rod that pushes heavy bullets.
I have always used 1,000 ft-lbs as the minimum energy for a deer. No one really measured it. Some guy had calculated energy on a successful hunt and it grew from there. And if the energy at impact is 999 ft-lbs, the deer is not going to say, "That was just a tickle. Buh-bye!" and jauntily saunter off.
If you have a 7mm -08, keep shooting it for deer.
7mm rem mag is nice too
so is a 22lr@@hugtango
@@C.D.-tz6sk so are 7x47 and 6.5x55 and 9.3x62 and.....
Exactly my point... so is a 12 guage shotgun.... the video was about comparing two cartridges and you pull in others out of the blue... Yes of course there are so many good ones right?! @@hugtango
@@C.D.-tz6sk 7x64 fantastic and hope's n°9