Suspend Your Disbelief (or, how to ruin everything in 7 steps)
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- Опубликовано: 27 июн 2018
- I guess we should regulate ouija boards, eh? ok is it awkward if I offer to sell you a shirt now: store.dftba.com/products/tau-...
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It is not inevitable that we ruin everything! People are good at stepping up and doing not-ruining, sometimes. 
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“It takes effort to not accidentally become a cult”
I uhhh... i just got here...
It also takes effort to not accidentally make a cult
I've done it on at least 3 different occasions
one of us! one of us!
Same, I had a cult phase years ago when I accidentally mentioned a fruit name change-
Whatdaya mean???? It’s not a cult it’s just… educational lying! /j
@@combatneenja4528block pig with crown
I like this video; I'm a fairly information literate person (I _think_ ), but you make sure throughout the video that you don't do that which you warn of. I'm the guy who takes pride in disliking or not caring about clickbait, but you make sure to call me out on that too. I think this video raises a bit of awareness of how some content creators operate, but it doesn't allow those who aer allready aware sit up on their highhorse.
Also, it's an effective use of satire.
And it's funny.
Mainly that.
Now, let me resume my suspension.
That was an azing peice of literature lemme just print that off... there we go cheers mate
Yeet
That....was so much more profound than I was expecting it to be. You never fail to amaze and impress Vihart - with this superb self-awareness, meta-commentary, sensible metaphor, and powerful implications, I will never see my browsing on RUclips as I used to.
That was really, really meta, and had a lot of definite implications that are solid yet subjective.
if Jreg was actually good
I’ve already accepted the world is like this
I'm meta commenting now
"It might seem... unethical."
Ethics aren't the first thing you think of when you're trying to ruin everything.
And ethics aren't exactly present in politics either, which I think this is meant to be an allegory/metaphor for.
@@trickytreyperfected1482 A metaphor? She's right in a direct, literal sense.
@@gamerdomain6618 right, but as far as I know she doesn't talk directly about politics in the video with the exception of making the passing joke "pi-litically" correct.
This video becomes more relevant with each passing year. I try to watch it at least once a year, and every time it gets me to take a pause and think about what factors I allow to influence my media consumption. Thank you Vihart, you are a blessing to us all.
Love the 1984 newspeak double entendre at the end.
While I never thought of those doodling in math class series as "real", I always assumed they were based on your grade school experience of being bored and doodling in class.
I've read it takes around 1,000 hours of practise to obtain mastery, so you need to get your time in somewhere!
When I was Still in school after I watched one of your videos I would talk about them with my math teacher. And we got really close over it and I just want to thank you. I also want to do more and more with math because of you.
I'm a math teacher, and I regularly break up the monotony of lessons with a Vi Hart video. Students look forward to it every week.
As such, I also thank you, Vi. You're inspiring a lot of people.
I am feeling so conflicted about buying a shirt after thus.
Split the difference and steal a shirt
conflicted between choosing one color, or buying both?
I suddenly had the horrible idea that either color would pair well with a red baseball cap. I am so torn.
i'm thinking that was kind of the point, too. :O
The main question is: What should we do with the people who don't buy shirts, that look down on us, hate us and want to ruin everything!
I cracked up on "pilitically correct" XD
Dwolfy 11:00 Wouldn't be surprised if stumbling upon that pun snowballed this script idea.
I come back to this one every once in a while when I recognize these things happening to me. It's a pretty good guide on how to spot manipulation in many forms. Thanks vihart of years past.
"it might be hard to find people who love you if you hurt others to get what you want."
Wow, I wish this was true.
Hmmm I agree sort of (that it's not true). In one sense, people who are more likely to love you are also the ones who are more likely to get hurt by you (citation: am sociopath :p).
It's also not hard to get a following of adoring fans when everyone else is always labeled the enemy;
that being said, I would consider neither of these forms of love to be anything particularly intimate, and in fact fall more along the lines of convenient untruths people tell themselves to justify actions.
I do think it's incredibly hard to find intimate, long-term love when you foster an environment too cold to facilitate the warmth of mushy affections.
This is perhaps your best yet - and all of your videos are fantastic. Everyone needs to watch this several times… as I will!
I need to watch this again, and develop countermeasures.
you forgot the most important step:
convince *yourself* of everything , thus becoming part of the cult yourself and removing the last week point in the cult.
Wait a second... it took me this long to realize Vihart tells her stories in second person?
Oh shit she does. That's wack but dope
Excuse me?? Step 5?? Did you think I would miss that? Cause I almost did. Dont suspend your disbelief too much, kids!
Brighton Betoit ViHaRt sAiD 5 oN ThE 6tH sTEp omG !!1!1!!11!1!!one1!!
Ata Güler fair enough.
Fake views, only the failing Brighton Betoit thinks she said 5 when she was on 6. The real people (TAU) know better. SAD. What about when the Pi people are wrong? What's your answer for that?
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Nick Jonas once baked a tau and he binned it without even thinking. He's a monster, and his Pi is hollow.
Your start is so random and nonetheless the stream of consciousness proceeds in a direction so rational and so accurate that it's almost frightening in describing collective social interactions. I love you more every tau day.
I remember seeing this video as it came out and thinking i was understanding it...
Man, a lot has changed in three years
I don't think you broke the fourth wall. I think you actually showed us that we are within the four walls of the narrative.
This is an amazing comment, holy shit
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Anyone else bugged by the hole in the center of her notebook?
Daniel Taber hat to rewatch the video for that. Yes, that is really creepy. Looks as if she had hammered a nail through it...
Came to the comments for this
might it be from when she had the foot spiral?
That... makes sense, actually.
No, just distracted wondering which video it came from.
I have watched your videos for a *very* long time and I *very much* appreciate you taking the time to make this video. It is very much needed.
This made feel about as optimistic as CGP Grey's "7 Ways to Maximize Misery". Well done, Vihart.
Okay, I've watched it 3 times now... I feel like I got it and also feel like I still missed a lot of it. The 3 most important questions I got now are:
1. which of my own peer groups are somewhere into these 7 steps?
2. what could we do, to break a peer group which is already kind of deep into these 7 steps?
and
3. how to best defend yourself against falling for such things?
Me: Man, this is a good Vi video
Video: Starts getting all metaphor-y about biases ingrained by fiction
Me: Heck yes!
I think this is your best video yet, which is saying a lot. It's like a classic theorem, applicable on so many levels and to so many situations.
A Greek said that pi should be pronounced pee. If tau (tor, not taow) is 2 pi, then we have two-pee, which sounds like toupie, the French for a spinning top, which is round and turns in circles. Deep or what? Toupie or not toupie, c'est la question. For an indecisive bladder. I'm torn.
Or.... 2*pee =pee pee
put the piss stone down.
Absolutely destroyed the fourth wall, I love it.
It's a Tau Day miracle!
Fantaustic!
13:31 I thought we were following the first rule of fight club
Okay, I did not think you were literally in your algebra class, but I have thought, many times, that you might have really felt that way in your maths classes lol. Like, rather than a character, I thought you were genuinely sharing your thoughts. Personal looking channels like yours, I assume what is told is somewhat authentic and personal experience vs manufactured character. Maybe I am really naive lol.
Wow! Totally nailed it. Everyone should watch this one several times.
I know this isn't really connected except for me, but step 6 applies to how my family views homosexuality. They said to me there are lots of people who pretend to be gay for sympathy.
This is crazy insightful, and it really does apply to everything @_@ Great video.
Thing is there are people that pretend to be gay for sympathy, and there's also a lot of people who pretend to be straight for sympathy too.
Trust me I'm an easily dismissable comment from someone you never met and probably won't talk to again, or maybe exchange a few extra lines of text if you reply.
I'm getting too meta I should go to sleep.
Thanks for that, relatable-fellow-human. I appreciate your insight, and I'm sure there are people who do that as you say. It was just the way they said it made it sound like it was a much LARGER sub-set.
Sleep is good.
I don't know your parents but you can probably argue (put forth counter arguments) when you disagree with them, they may be your parents and older than you but they are still humans, they don't know everything.
Unless they are really stubborn, if you have good points, they probably would accept them.
Yeah, they said it a little while ago so I don't know if they've changed their minds, but they're like... 50/50 stubborn ratio? Thanks for the advice, random human.
This is so applicable to like any opposite opinion groups. Loved this. I know this a video from years ago but still found the need to post this. Thx Vi Hart.
Omds it's been so long and omg your videos are still so great
Happy Tau day! :)
6.28.2018!
-well, in england, its 28.06.2018, but, who cares when you have MATHS?-
2018-06-28 with an ISO 8601 date.
Let's just ignore the year and call it 06-28.
Can't we just skip to the last step? Hail overlord Vihart! Your legion awaits your command!
oh my gosh this is amazing we love you happy tau dayyy
This is media literacy.
Yes! That's very well put.
Had it at the tip of my tongue, but couldn't quite get there.
Planky brought me back to this video today. Planky made me very happy.
Is this a,,,,, METAPHOR???
But what's the meta for?
17inchcorkscrew could be many things (the whole thing kind of our zeitgeist).
Some manifestations of feminism maybe, or the cultural appropriation thing etc.
That's the beauty of it, eh? My mind immediately jumped to xenophobia/the acolytes of Trump. The people who we perceive as doing harm are the ones we'll ascribe this cult mentality to. It's up to us to reflect on our own beliefs/actions to determine which cults we ourselves have fallen prey to!
Graemyr Interesting - it seems to me that the metaphor perfectly describes intersectionalism and identity politics - especially the part 4 about making the group feel like they are hated (IE victims) even when nothing could be further from the truth.
OTOH now that I got to #6 it sounds like radical Islam.
Sounds to me like this analogy fits for pretty much any radical ideology.
I was so interested in this so I’m sad she stopped posting… she learned me most of my fun math facts :)
As someone who is in a class about the study of genocide, this isn't far off of how to start a genocide, and is similar to the steps Hitler himself took. So that's cool.
10:49 Step 5 ? Vi has gone to the other side. Numbers are meaningless and no-longer real!
10:50 First you tell me tau is better than pi and now that six doesn't really exist???? #Justice4Six
Best video yet. It can be so hard to take a step back and realize what's going on around us. (and within us)
If your first reaction to this video is, "See, that's what does! I knew they were bad!"; may I suggest you re-watch, this time examining your own thoughts, motives, and perspective to see if you yourself aren't infected with the same disease? See how similar that sounds to what you just accused of?
I tried but all the actual murders they'd been doing kind of skewed it all over again.
Does a group do murders? Is a group responsible?
Fellshard If a group has come together under their shared interest in murder, then I'd say signs point to yes.
Now find me such a group, and show me that their intent and interest is indeed murder. Ascribing motives and intents to someone that does not hold them is itself part and parcel of what Vihart is speaking of.
The Klan? Can we agree that the Klan is legitimately interested in murdering/enslaving non-whites? Nazis wanting to eradicate the Jewish people, maybe? Surely we can generally agree on those.
I feel like I could watch this 1000 times and each time focus on a different senario that this applies to cause it applies to so much
This is a brilliant video, and your V/O work is excellent.
Yay! New vihart video!
Yay! ViHeart content!
"Trapezoids are always the villain"
Wow now I feel sorry for Trapezoids... >.>
It can actually be shown that they are prone to commit more crime than ANY other shape! Also... just look at them...two sides are always crooked ... disgusting.
Well, did you ever stop to think that there might be a reason for that?
Not shapist, btw. my sister's boyfriend is a trapezoid, so.....
Insights from 5 years ago 5:00
, vi hart
You’re a real inspiration
Don’t make me rewatch all your videos, please we need more nutrition
This was awesome. I love all of your videos but this one stands out.
Bravo!
May I drop something in the suggestion box?
The Bowl and the Laser Bat (the jazzy version) on a T-shirt.
So my school celebrates pi day and not tau day? Wow ok whatever
i fangirl cos i can girl yeah, it really suck for people who like tau, with schools even pushing pi.
I’m not even in school for tau day. Isn’t it summer vacation for you too?
Aethermations I’m pretty sure no one is in school lol
Those two-faced bastards
Same
This video is incredible. You're an amazing content creator
I was getting George Orwell vibes from this, and the ending confirmed it.
Great video btw. Probably one of my favorites you've made. :)
Vihart? RUclips animator? Musician? Mathmation? Educator? Entertainer? Cult leader? The world will never know
Brooklen wits because she’ll send the cult out to keep it a secret I mean uhm...nope...nobody will know.
Thank you for being honest with us, even at the cost of breaking the 4th wall ;)
You have one of my favorite youtube channels :)
8:30 "I will make you non-convex!! RAAAH"
(threatening to take a bite out of him lol)
This is wonderful. I love how the hole is still in the notebook.
I do not leave comments anywhere, however this was genius. Thank you for making the world ever so slightly better via your presence and output.
You are absolutely amazing. Dear lord this video was good.
Yeesh, this is scary. Good thing no-one would actually “ruin everything” like this, right?
...Right?
+TIMOTHY YOUNG Yep. My comment was sarcastic.
Double plus good, Vi. I normally try not to discuss algebrolitics, but the Orwell reference pulled me in.
You rule... with an iron marker!
This video is what RUclips was meant for. *It made it all worth it.*
Lucas Preti +
this is hilarious. also i found your channel just today and ilysm already
i'm joining in on this cult idc
My favorite manufactured controversy is Qwerty versus Dvorak keyboard layouts.
*Jesus Christ why are you so well versed with this topic*
#CircleConstantsCanCoexist
Ew no, let's not teach teach redundant things to already-confused geometry students.
NO!
Follow that line of reasoning and the rest of us are going to have to learn imperial in addition to metric.
I never said that both constants had to be taught, and even if they were, one can be easily converted to the other, unlike the imperial and metric systems.
Moderates, in choosing to take both or neither side, will always be hated by everyone not also a moderate.
In a war one of the worst things you can do is stay neutral, because if you reject both sides then the only outcome in which you win is if both sides destroy each other to a degree that the winner is either you or does not have the strength to exact revenge against you, which is rather unlikely.
In almost all cases one side will win and, whichever one does, they will punish you for not helping them just as severely as if you had fought against them.
It reminds me of the prisoner's dilemma, where the optimal solution for both parties in long term is to do one thing, but in the short term doing that thing will always lead to a worse outcome.
I love your mind. Thank you for elucidating.
Vi, you need to condense this into a TED talk.... absolutely genius.
Snakes? Snakes??? SNAAAKKEEES!
justin, why
SNEEEEEEEEEKSSSSSS
Who are you?
Justin Y. U seem fimiliar
Justin Y. I have found u.
Great video !! How have I not seen your channel before today tho
Someone: *mentions pi*
Me: *eats that person with a letter opener*
Holy crap, Vi. Well, that was amazing. And hurt. Well done.
All proceeds go to the supreme triangle who loves us
I hadn't thought about collaborating with an algorithm before, thank you for this insight!
Cults of personality are really, really scary...
Thank you for this analytical breakdown of the plot of Mean Girls
is this some weird political allegory
edit: yeah, i’m pretty sure it is.
Yes.
Yup
And I can ride my bike with no handlebars...or have em all killed by assassination, I can make anybody go to prison just because I don’t like em!
Mister Apple you're everywhere!
No, it is not some weird political allegory. It is a clever political allegory.
Yes! Now I have an algorithm on how to brainwash people!
Please make a "Supreme triangle who loves you" shirt
This is honestly the best thing on the internet
i clicked as FAST as i could
_i came as soon as i heard_
Plainly dragged me here, run.
This is why I love vihart
why is τ 2π, when it looks like half of π 🤔
CyanGaming | ᴹᶦᶰᵉᶜʳᵃᶠᵗ ⁻ ᴳᵃᵐᵉᴾᶫᵃʸ asking the real questions here 👍
One leg because it takes 1*τ to go around a circle, two legs because it takes 2*π to go around a circle.
CyanGaming | ᴹᶦᶰᵉᶜʳᵃᶠᵗ ⁻ ᴳᵃᵐᵉᴾᶫᵃʸ Because ππ would look stupid if you used it in mathematic equations.
I meant, π should be tau
Take it up with the ancient Greeks
all hail the supreme triangle who loves us
... and sells us merch!
can't wait for 2019's video :-)
That's it.
I'm converting to taoism.
Governing a large nation is a lot like frying small fish.
You, lady, are a brilliant philosopher! 🤗
YES thank you for this video!!
Thanks for the tutorial!
1. Group identity around shared belief
2. Body of Rhetoric
3. Spread the word/start beef
4. Make sure your group feels like the scum of the earth and everyone hates them
5. Escalate
6. The enemies beliefs and feelings can be completely dismissed
7. Benevolent dictatorship
What if those shared beliefs are correct things?
I mean.... Tau IS objectively better than Pi.
I love perspectives that involve hyperdimension! The triangly thing cuts a paths through the story latent space by watching your actions really closely so you think you're doing it.
RUclips space! Story space would be huge, humans have told a lot of those and they capture bug ancient patterns that night be older than old. But RUclips space is still pretty big, in fact it's huge for how young it is.
I guess this is the Vihart video I needed :(
jeez, Vi, this is more heavy-handed symbolism than “The Fable of the Dragon Tyrant”
Best channel of all time🙌🏼
"RUclips is like a giant cross-temporal Oujia board with a algorithmic triangle thingy."
That's pretty much what I've been saying all along. Whenever old people ask what's RUclips, I tell them it's a like a cross-temporal Ouija board, and they're like, "Well why didn't they just say that in the first place?"
I’ve added “Cross-temporal ouija board” to my vocabulary
Right~! It makes so much more sense now I see it this way too!
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I heard somewhere that ouija boards were originally sold as a simple party game without any pretence of talking to ghosts, the premise being an honest illustration of how people would string together meaningful sentences without conscious, deliberate coordination. Now I'm starting to think messages emanating from beyond the grave were a better marketing tactic not because it's scarier, but because it frees people from the greater horror of assuming responsibility for the stories and messages they create.
I probably went too far into Slavoj Zizek mode to make myself understood earlier, but if we continue the theme of RUclips as a ouija board, there's an interesting parallel between "why is the ghost such a creepy pervert? Not our fault, blame the ghost" and "why is [dumb controversy] getting so much attention? Not our fault, blame the algorithm / advertising incentives / manipulation by this or that malicious actor"
Of course, there is more truth to the latter objection than the former (and if you didn't want to summon an entity with a tentacle fetish, you shouldn't have used the Necronomicon), but the psychology behind both is pretty similar.
"No John, you are the demons - mon semamble, mon frère!"
"It takes effort to not accidentally become a cult."
This is some Night Vale level stuff.
Actually , on the subject of Night Vale, Vihart would make a really good Voice. I wonder if they've ever considered a position in radio...
I totally agree
When you only have four things you're interested in, everything will start to look like one of those four things.
@@TheEvilCheesecakeWhen the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a nail.
Absolutely brilliant! A brilliant way to break down a very complicated topic.
This happens everywhere but is only seen by the _fake enemies_
RUclips is the enemy. I call for a boycott
sorry, I just ruined your pretty 888 likes by liking your comment....
.. what?
+dorkly morkly
You clearly missed the point of the video. The Nazis did follow the 7 steps, but this video wasn't specific to Nazis. Many awful cults and dictators have followed some variant of the 7 steps. This video is a warning to not allow ourselves to fall into the hands of some leader.
dorkly morkly looks like somebody liked their own comment.
People should really watch this multiple times. The first time I saw this, I saw it as an allegory of Trump and the alt-right. The second time I saw this, I saw it as an allegory for... well... me, and my own political beliefs.
I think that really is a good point. Trump and his fans fit this to a T. They aren't quite to step 7 yet, but they are in it. But also, people can easily fall for it for other ideologies. I briefly fell for this line of thinking in the Bernie or Bust movement. I snapped out of it by the time of the election, but I did fall for a bit. If I were to do it all over, I would still vote Bernie in the primaries, but I wouldn't fall into the Bernie or bust camp. Also, Bernie himself didn't want Bernie or bust, we were just hijacked by other people who took over. Even had an ally, Jill Stein who is close to Bernie on the political compass, make those flames even bigger.
I dunno, dude. /pol/ is looking pretty unironic.
now im trying to figure out who's tricking me and make sure all of my ideas are my own
Kavukamari There's no such thing, you're always influenced by the society you live in before coming up with your own ideas... Best you can do is pause and reevaluate from time to time to make sure you're making sense
Hm, when she made the comment about how the other side does not even believe what they claim to believe, and is just trying to be pi-litically correct, I thought it was pretty clear that it was an allegory of the alt-right.
At first I was angry, thinking that your were talking about [INSERT BELIEF HERE], but then I realized you were talking about [INSERT OPPOSITION TO BELIEF HERE] and I totally agree. [INSERT OPPOSITION TO BELIEF HERE] is totally a cult and are basically evil in every way.
Xenath Cytrin this is pretty cutting, thats great.
But I'm allready agaisnt both of two opposing sides (that I'm NOT bringing up here) so maybe thats why...hmmm........)
likira111
against both or for both or not giving a shit. it's all the same pretty much. it's still all taking a stand.
likira111 You are aware that the same narrative can be applied to centrists?
I was gonna say:
Meta Step 1: Watch this video and conclude that the other side is exactly doing these steps.
Meta Step 2: Be proud of yourself and move along, completely missing the point of the video.
R0DisG0D Yup I was trying to make a little self depriciating humor about that as well.
Though I'm not centrist I'm more liberal (but I could be a bigger narsistic fuck and say I pride myself on centrists being more able to make fun of the self and thus futhering the cycle by calling myself a narsisistic fuck....hmmmm...........)