So true, although it could also be the opposite, it speaks very badly of Forces [more than it already was], I hope that if the modders remade the Forces levels, they would do it at the level of Sonic x Shadow [just like they did with Sonic 2006]
@@RizzyGyatt Uh, summa-lumma, dooma-lumma, you assumin' I'm a human What I gotta do to get it through to you I'm superhuman? Innovative and I'm made of rubber so that anything You say is ricochetin' off of me, and it'll glue to you and I'm devastating, more than ever demonstrating How to give a motherfuckin' audience a feeling like it's levitating Never fading, and I know the haters are forever waiting For the day that they can say I fell off, they'll be celebrating … 'Cause I know the way to get 'em motivated I make elevating music, you make elevator music
they actually took the time to put those mad skips, much appreciated nice work for an early speedrun, i'm looking forward for the crazy strats in the future
I finally got the game. Also it already sold a millipn copies. I can go on about it the whole day but summary it was worth it. It was the ultimate a true shadow the hedgehog 2 game that we waited for a very very long time
@@sonicovertime Hum, he is in 06, Shadow the Hedgehog, and Forces. You don't see him in Unleashed or Frontiers, or even original Generations. I'm not sure your theory is working.
Doom: "Uh... I stopped dodging. Seriously, are you even trying to hit me?" "No." "The hell you mean, no?" *Flies across the entire stage throwing Chaos Spears*
My favorite run is definitely Space Colony Ark, less than a second from the WR! Then it goes Sunset Heights and Chaos Island. The video took about 20 hours of practice, if you could leave a like that would be epic!
The WR already decreased by like 6 seconds!! Someone must have found a new chaos control spot. I probably won't aim to beat the WR just wanted to see how far I could get on the leaderboards in 2 days. I did begin practicing after 100% the game.
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@@sonicovertime Nice! Can't wait to see more speedruns from you!
I love that even the very first levels are still long on a speed run due to the sheer amount of areas you go through. In generations GHZ and Chemical Plant felt very short on a modern sonic speed run. Its great fun that even going max speed still has you engaging with so many fun mechanics rather than just trying to skip over everything
HOLY CRAP! I just S ranked all the way up to sunsets and thought i mastered these stages, but geez.......... THIS SETTELS IT! This is a true sonic game thru and thru. The shortcuts and jumping you are doing was very common in old ps2 days of gaming when gaming was at its peak. The fact that you can play this game they way you did in the video and its not a requirement for S ranking a stage is what aonic games SHOULD ALL BE LIKE ❤❤❤
if chaos control is activated you can still hit a chaos control capsule and it will replenish it after the activated one is over to save some time from stalling
Yes I do that for many of the runs, however if you do that in Space Colony Ark It seems that you lose milaseconds of time. As the refill crystals of the capsule takes abit. If you grab another capsule manually you get it right away. Also this doesn't work on the inside of the ark because you'd loose the bonus from attacking the enemies, so it's faster time wise to wait for the capsule to reset.
I find it insane that you can speed run these levels and they’re still over 3 minutes long. Meanwhile after Unleashed, you saw many stages being as short as 30 seconds with speed runs. I’m loving they’re making stages longer.
That has less to do with the length of the stage and more to do with people actually learning how to break the stage and sequence break. Give it another Month or two and it’ll be the same thing here eventually
@@AbyssDefiantBlack Nah, notice I said games AFTER unleashed. I mean what I said. Colors, Forces, and Frontiers boost stages can all be finished is about a minute, maybe a bit more. Base Generations you can finish most stages at around 2 minutes. This is normal play throughs, no techs no exploits no glitches. Here we have people doing Shadow Generations stages using techs and exploits and still managing to take 3-4 minutes to finish a stage.
@@autosaver I don't see how Colors is a part of this because the game has more than 2 acts, and the stages can go on quite a bit in every zone. None of the gimmicks here has nothing to do with Colors levels design so it's foolish to compare. Your logic also fails further because after Unleashed is also this same game and Lost World. Which is long as Unleashed and Heroes. Longest Sonic game to beat.
Shadow generations has had some of the most fun/well designed levels in a sonic game in years. I would love for them to keep doing more like this and keep improving it than get something else like sonic frontiers.
normally right at the start there is a jump panel and halfway up there is a hole where you could boost and get to this path. There also will be a collection item
This is one my favorite sonic speedruns. Plenty of skips, but it's not ten minutes of stupid out of bounds clips where the character just falls in a void for 5 minutes. These seem realistic for the average player to pull off and still allows flexibility/choice in routes. Hopefully players don't discover a bunch of out of bounds glitches that take over the speedrun community
i just managed to S rank the stages and was curious what speedrunners were doing. so many shortcuts and skips i had no clue about :0 hats off to you, these are impressive! when figuring this out do you just take a few rounds poking through the stage to find or make your own alternate routes before mastering it?
Should... Chaos Control count? I mean, yes it counts in game, but what happens when someone does a full game speed run? That has to be timed outside of the game ...I guess this is going to a categorical thing, at best
Frontiers was great. Granted it was a sonic and banjo Kazooie hybrid, but it was a lot of fun. Sonic team has been hitting their stride lately. And this is coming from someone who's been disgruntled with them for a long time now.
I hate that you can't home on enemies off-screen. Especially in spots like the last 5 enemies of the first stage. Bruh, I know the enemies are there. Don't stop me from homing in on them just because YA'LL removed my ability to control the camera.
Dang, you even got through radical highway without the wings! Chaos Spear is just a better version of the wings then I guess? It doesn't cost boost, it doesn't need 50 rings and it skips having a 2 second animation as well.
even on speedruns the levels are 3 minutos long, what an improvement on original sonic generations, and thats counting the fact you can slow the in game timmer
(EDITED, SEE READ-MORE) I've been trying to run SxSG myself, and while I'm absolutely dazzled by the Chaos Spear usage, something's confusing me here; where are you getting that third Chaos Control during the first Black Hawk encounter in Kingdom Valley (10:23)? You carry one in, that makes sense; you hit a capsule for the second one, that makes sense; you never touched the Black Hawk, you passed right by it, so how'd you get a third Chaos Control? And likewise for the second encounter (11:19); you hit a capsule, use it, gain another Chaos Control from nowhere (near as I can tell), hit the second capsule, then gain a _fourth_ Chaos Control from nowhere (near as I can tell). EDIT: Looking at your Rail Canyon run, I realized all of these "from nowheres" share a common theme: they're all from capsules, and you're using them almost _exactly_ as soon as you get them. Are you telling me you can _double up_ on Chaos Control charges from the capsules just by activating CC the _second_ you break a capsule????
You basically store momentum abit more, so if you're moving in a direction like horizontally, you will continue in that direction slightly more than without the spears. Allowing longer distance jumps and initial boost speeds longer.
Sega: have fun with shadows abilities Sonic Overtime: you mean. MY abilities? Btw! I wanted to ask, What are your settings for shadow control wise apart from the standard control's, and how long did it take you to memorize the path in order to execute the runs
I still can't figure out that 4-fold chaos control sequence at 11:20 you do. did you do something specific or am i missing something? everytime i do this section, i get 2 chaos controls. which are both of the little capsule bubbles. the first one and the one in the river. i feel like the highest im getting on this level is a 3:00 flat. but with those 10 extra seconds, i'd be sitting at a 2:50 which im more than comfortable enough with. i just cant figure that single portion out. good stuff, otherwise!
the fact that these speedruns are still longer than a regular playthrough of a forces level speaks volumes for how good these levels are
So true, although it could also be the opposite, it speaks very badly of Forces [more than it already was], I hope that if the modders remade the Forces levels, they would do it at the level of Sonic x Shadow [just like they did with Sonic 2006]
Chaos control... The ultimate way to speed run.
Cause it stops the clock...
"That's not his speed. He's using the chaos emerald to warp!"
My name is shadow
I'm the world's ultimate life form
There's no time for games
Farewell @@cafequente8252
Everyone including Sega loves Radical Highway so much that they brought it back 5 times in one game.
And no one complained. It was just really funny.
I knew a speedrun was bound to show up real soon, especially coming from such a skilled gamer
It takes a certain kind of bravery to play like this.
super sonic speed
@@RizzyGyatt Uh, summa-lumma, dooma-lumma, you assumin' I'm a human
What I gotta do to get it through to you I'm superhuman?
Innovative and I'm made of rubber so that anything
You say is ricochetin' off of me, and it'll glue to you and
I'm devastating, more than ever demonstrating
How to give a motherfuckin' audience a feeling like it's levitating
Never fading, and I know the haters are forever waiting
For the day that they can say I fell off, they'll be celebrating
… 'Cause I know the way to get 'em motivated
I make elevating music, you make elevator music
@@arkangel1926some of the most corny lyrics ever so bad
@@maccamachine You make elevator music
@@Rubenz343 Good thing I don’t make any music at all…. But even I can tell eminem is corny and washed up.
they actually took the time to put those mad skips, much appreciated
nice work for an early speedrun, i'm looking forward for the crazy strats in the future
I finally got the game. Also it already sold a millipn copies. I can go on about it the whole day but summary it was worth it. It was the ultimate a true shadow the hedgehog 2 game that we waited for a very very long time
Shadow always is in the best games, guess he is the coolest afterall 😆
@@sonicovertime except he was mentioned in froniters
@@redsonic7rickoverload560Why Frontiers gets the pass (kidding around)
@@sonicovertimewell he was in forces and 06, but shadows story in 06 is pretty good even today.
@@sonicovertime Hum, he is in 06, Shadow the Hedgehog, and Forces. You don't see him in Unleashed or Frontiers, or even original Generations. I'm not sure your theory is working.
Holy shit that skip at the start is insane
Doom: "Uh... I stopped dodging. Seriously, are you even trying to hit me?"
"No."
"The hell you mean, no?"
*Flies across the entire stage throwing Chaos Spears*
I recognize those DBZA lines
Shadow: Hya hmm gyh hmm heh hmm gah
A man of culture 🙏🏿
Ohhh... shit
Shadow: DOOM SPEARS!
Black Doom: "Aww man, it even has a cool name-"
Seeing Shadow just flying through the level at Kingdom Valley was amazing to see in an un-modded sonic game.
You are an extremely skilled and talented player. Really impressed.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the runs. 😊
The amount of thought went into the level design. Is insane. Shows how good a game can be with just level design
My favorite run is definitely Space Colony Ark, less than a second from the WR! Then it goes Sunset Heights and Chaos Island.
The video took about 20 hours of practice, if you could leave a like that would be epic!
serious dedication bro
take a break man
also how
You gonna try to beat the WR? And did you start practicing once you beat the game?
The WR already decreased by like 6 seconds!! Someone must have found a new chaos control spot. I probably won't aim to beat the WR just wanted to see how far I could get on the leaderboards in 2 days. I did begin practicing after 100% the game.
@@sonicovertime Nice! Can't wait to see more speedruns from you!
Your sunset heights run was amazing.
Sadly invalid, because you didn't switch the BGM to enemy territory 😔
I love that even the very first levels are still long on a speed run due to the sheer amount of areas you go through. In generations GHZ and Chemical Plant felt very short on a modern sonic speed run. Its great fun that even going max speed still has you engaging with so many fun mechanics rather than just trying to skip over everything
God this game is so sick. Also funny how even speedrunning the levels they're still longer than the average forces level
HOLY CRAP!
I just S ranked all the way up to sunsets and thought i mastered these stages, but geez..........
THIS SETTELS IT!
This is a true sonic game thru and thru.
The shortcuts and jumping you are doing was very common in old ps2 days of gaming when gaming was at its peak.
The fact that you can play this game they way you did in the video and its not a requirement for S ranking a stage is what aonic games SHOULD ALL BE LIKE ❤❤❤
Hell of a first level in a game, and crazy amounts of coolness with those transitions in and out of gameplay
Yep I'm calling it the chaos spear speed extension or CSSE
Chaos skipper
*_*Chaos_*_ skipping_
Spear vaulting?
Sky Spear?
Spear glide ?
Nah that kingdom valley run was INSANE
19:44 i was specifically watching for this shortcut so i could consistently pull it off for S Rank. Tysm for this.
Speed runs with high speed gameplay are so much fun to watch
0:22 I had no idea there were even platforms with rings over here. I freaking love this game.
Dang, you been practicing! Color me impressed! Great job, Overtime!
if chaos control is activated you can still hit a chaos control capsule and it will replenish it after the activated one is over to save some time from stalling
Yes I do that for many of the runs, however if you do that in Space Colony Ark It seems that you lose milaseconds of time. As the refill crystals of the capsule takes abit. If you grab another capsule manually you get it right away. Also this doesn't work on the inside of the ark because you'd loose the bonus from attacking the enemies, so it's faster time wise to wait for the capsule to reset.
I find it insane that you can speed run these levels and they’re still over 3 minutes long.
Meanwhile after Unleashed, you saw many stages being as short as 30 seconds with speed runs. I’m loving they’re making stages longer.
That has less to do with the length of the stage and more to do with people actually learning how to break the stage and sequence break.
Give it another Month or two and it’ll be the same thing here eventually
@@AbyssDefiantBlack Nah, notice I said games AFTER unleashed. I mean what I said.
Colors, Forces, and Frontiers boost stages can all be finished is about a minute, maybe a bit more. Base Generations you can finish most stages at around 2 minutes. This is normal play throughs, no techs no exploits no glitches.
Here we have people doing Shadow Generations stages using techs and exploits and still managing to take 3-4 minutes to finish a stage.
Radical highway shows how good the ranking system can be if they just more strict with the times or skill in the level
@@autosaver I don't see how Colors is a part of this because the game has more than 2 acts, and the stages can go on quite a bit in every zone. None of the gimmicks here has nothing to do with Colors levels design so it's foolish to compare. Your logic also fails further because after Unleashed is also this same game and Lost World. Which is long as Unleashed and Heroes. Longest Sonic game to beat.
Shadow generations has had some of the most fun/well designed levels in a sonic game in years. I would love for them to keep doing more like this and keep improving it than get something else like sonic frontiers.
19:23 WHAT!? I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT PATH
normally right at the start there is a jump panel and halfway up there is a hole where you could boost and get to this path. There also will be a collection item
@@ShanyaTC yeah i tried that path out today and I was able to get an S rank lets goo!!
The fact his voice actor is Yujiro whom is a badass is even better, though I’ll miss the old voice actor 🔥
So does flinging chaos spears make you hold momentum longer?! God I played this game all wrong! MORE SPEED!
It keeps your momentum and it is AMAZING!
Finally a game with no flying speedruns!
This is some of the most epic stuff i've seen
This is one my favorite sonic speedruns. Plenty of skips, but it's not ten minutes of stupid out of bounds clips where the character just falls in a void for 5 minutes. These seem realistic for the average player to pull off and still allows flexibility/choice in routes. Hopefully players don't discover a bunch of out of bounds glitches that take over the speedrun community
I loved this run to boot! I am struggling with getting S rank in sunset hights. I am very bad at this game.
18:25 THIS IS THЕ ULTIMATЕ NICЕ!
i just managed to S rank the stages and was curious what speedrunners were doing. so many shortcuts and skips i had no clue about :0 hats off to you, these are impressive! when figuring this out do you just take a few rounds poking through the stage to find or make your own alternate routes before mastering it?
wow, i used your channel to help me find all the medals and you are one talented player. u have my sub for sure
Thanks! Glad to hear you enjoy the vids. :)
0:21 I just simply can’t get the skip down😭
i cannot wait to get this game for christmas
If Only Homing Dash Was In This Game 😂
Thank god it isn't.
I really hope they add an air deceleration slider like in frontiers
Eh that was pretty garbage actually
No, I don’t like the idea of flying over entire levels, I actually wanna play them
@@igottakirbranger8995 Frr Bro
You make me feel so bad at the game, I could never do half of this stuff 😭 If the missions had leaderboards, I think I'd be high on those though!
theres online mode for that
@@mclover5433 I could be wrong, but I think only regular levels have leaderboards and not missions
This is awesome 😮
The radical highway strats by wilding
This looks and sounds so sick!!! 😂😊
At 11:34 how did your Chaos Control replenish?
If you hold Left trigger before you hit a capsule and continue holding, shadow will actually get a second chaos control from one capsule.. lol
0:23 im losing my mind trying to replicate that jump, how
Even I never went that fast 😳
These are insane, I wonder how using chaos spear a lot helps though
It basically preserves your speed, so if you're going horizontally you will keep going for longer.
@@sonicovertime Oh, I see. Thanks!
So we're calling it the chaos spear speed extension?
9:13 I don't know what the game was doing there, but it looked cool!
Should... Chaos Control count? I mean, yes it counts in game, but what happens when someone does a full game speed run? That has to be timed outside of the game
...I guess this is going to a categorical thing, at best
Yeah I've seen in speedruns there's usually an "in game" time and a "real time" that they'll show together on official streams and such.
I'm so glad to be able to witness a good sonic game FINALLY
Frontiers was great. Granted it was a sonic and banjo Kazooie hybrid, but it was a lot of fun. Sonic team has been hitting their stride lately. And this is coming from someone who's been disgruntled with them for a long time now.
@@randomd00d19 this was made by the bowser's fury/mario oddyssey/generations team.
If anyone can restore a series it’s the guy who made it so massive in the first place
Sick bro !!
Lore accurate Shadow the Hedgehog
I knew this was coming truly impressive
0:43 Having the ability to control time itself has many advantages!
I really like these maps just hope in the future they can make the doom parts separate so you can play just the map itself
3:22 the music syncs up w the gameplay really nice here
It would be funny if people made a "real time" speedrun video similar to the Dishonored spamming Bend in real time video.
That Ark act 1 run was insane!
I hate that you can't home on enemies off-screen. Especially in spots like the last 5 enemies of the first stage.
Bruh, I know the enemies are there. Don't stop me from homing in on them just because YA'LL removed my ability to control the camera.
Yeah I noticed that as well.
Basically sonic team is making everyone a goddamn dragon ball character and I dig it
Dang, you even got through radical highway without the wings! Chaos Spear is just a better version of the wings then I guess? It doesn't cost boost, it doesn't need 50 rings and it skips having a 2 second animation as well.
You're actually very good Bro
Insane run!
If I may ask, what’s the purpose of the midair Chaos Spear spam? Does it slow Shadow’s descent, or perhaps give him a horizontal boost in the air?
It maintains his momentum
Ahhhh, I see! Thanks for the tip
omg you are so talented how does one even do a fraction of what you can do
even on speedruns the levels are 3 minutos long, what an improvement on original sonic generations, and thats counting the fact you can slow the in game timmer
Speed runners, cutting corners everywhere & zooming across the sky 😸
insane cuts bro
I JUST LOVE RADICAL HIGHWAY SHADOW
This is great, still doesnt explain how gamergirlotaku got less than 2 mins on space colony ark though
This is so fire
I'm surprised they didn't include a Colours stage or an Infinite fight.
YOU ARE REALLY CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But Incredible.
insane gameplay
(EDITED, SEE READ-MORE) I've been trying to run SxSG myself, and while I'm absolutely dazzled by the Chaos Spear usage, something's confusing me here; where are you getting that third Chaos Control during the first Black Hawk encounter in Kingdom Valley (10:23)? You carry one in, that makes sense; you hit a capsule for the second one, that makes sense; you never touched the Black Hawk, you passed right by it, so how'd you get a third Chaos Control? And likewise for the second encounter (11:19); you hit a capsule, use it, gain another Chaos Control from nowhere (near as I can tell), hit the second capsule, then gain a _fourth_ Chaos Control from nowhere (near as I can tell).
EDIT: Looking at your Rail Canyon run, I realized all of these "from nowheres" share a common theme: they're all from capsules, and you're using them almost _exactly_ as soon as you get them. Are you telling me you can _double up_ on Chaos Control charges from the capsules just by activating CC the _second_ you break a capsule????
0:22 I didn't even know that section was there.
If you think these speedruns are insane, wait until you hear about Sonic Unleashed’s m-speed glitch
I thought Seaside Hill Act 2 had the most branching pathways in the game. Then I played these levels and thought “Yeah, no.”
He literally turned Chaos Island into Frontiers cyberspace length, and it still feels longer somehow 💀
CAN you do all act 2 please ?
I loved this
Just curious, what you win using the spears in mid jump?
You basically store momentum abit more, so if you're moving in a direction like horizontally, you will continue in that direction slightly more than without the spears. Allowing longer distance jumps and initial boost speeds longer.
@@sonicovertimethanks man
*Holy Jesus!*
2:37
“Bro these edibles ain’t sh-“
So Sunset Heights can be longer than 50 seconds
Whats your opinion on this game?
Do you like the speedruns.
And are u gonna do full runs like any%?
21:35 I gotta remember that
🔥🔥🔥🔥
Sega: have fun with shadows abilities
Sonic Overtime: you mean. MY abilities?
Btw! I wanted to ask, What are your settings for shadow control wise apart from the standard control's, and how long did it take you to memorize the path in order to execute the runs
Shadow759 vibes???
Shadow759 Doom : lucky BASTETRD UHHAUHUHUHHUHHHUH😢
So how does the chaos spear momentum preservation work? In my experience it always felt like it STOPPED my momentum more than anything
This game is awesome
The insane is the fucking boost
Does the chaos control really stops the "speedrun timer" or it only counts for the stage timer?
This game is crazy 😂
I still can't figure out that 4-fold chaos control sequence at 11:20 you do. did you do something specific or am i missing something? everytime i do this section, i get 2 chaos controls. which are both of the little capsule bubbles. the first one and the one in the river. i feel like the highest im getting on this level is a 3:00 flat. but with those 10 extra seconds, i'd be sitting at a 2:50 which im more than comfortable enough with. i just cant figure that single portion out. good stuff, otherwise!
How long did it take you to master the Chaos Spear tech? you look like a GOD playing this like bruh.
Dang I’m gonna have to grind a lot
Is this your gameplay? If so what system did you play on? I wanna see your times on the leaderboards!
Yes, this is all my gameplay, it's on my PC under ryguy actually lol.
@@sonicovertime Sweet, Thanks!
What do you use chaos spears in the air for?