One of my personal favorites is at the start of Super Paper Mario. You need to talk to an NPC to raise a bridge to progress. The NPC then asks you what his favorite color is, and he kicks you out of his house if you answer anything but red. Now the next guy does the same, but since his favorite is green and Mario is dressed in red, he kicks you out regardless of your answer. It’s one of my favorite examples of this, and the thing is, the bridge raises anyway! It gets you nervous over answering wrong for nothing! I feel like more games need to use some humor like that now.
@@XxXQuickScoperXxXJoinTheParty i think hes talking about multiplayer games, and in those games, no matter how good you get, theres gonna always be someone far better than you. But I mean, it happens
To clarify, it's not that I hate losing. But it ticks me off when the enemy team kick our asses with no real way to retaliate. I wanna have fun whether I come out on top or not.
I remember in Halo Reach, depending on the map design you could literally spawn trap a team on the invasion mode. Grenades placed RIGHT where you'd spawn, and explode exactly when spawning in and instakilled by pistol. Now THAT is downright oof material
@@plumdowner1941 That's what I implied with "play easier games" Your chances to win (or to enjoy the game) are more even if the game is easy to learn for everyone.
My favorite 'Trollish' behaviour was back in Overwatch spamming Mei's "Sorry, SORRY, sorry I'm sorry..." Voice line on repeat. Before they nerfed it down to 3 voice lines per 15 seconds, you could tell everyone in the game Sorry 16 times/15 seconds. Maximizing your trolling output.
This is the equivalent of spamming literally any quick chat in Rocket League (you can to a max of 4 lines in a row until chat cooldown which is only like 4-5 seconds or something)
You never trash talk someone in a game. You just make them furious and troll them in game whilst sometimes dropping "ok" or "mad" for maximum mald on their part.
sometimes game devs make their game challenging but in a fun way . but sometimes the devs just make certain times in the game down right frustrating that its not challenging but just feels like they want to increase play time
Honestly, the motivation for me doesn't come from the anger, it comes from the adrenaline of getting further than my previous attempt at a boss or level in a difficult game.
I forced my roommate to play getting over it. He would have quit but what held him was me telling him he would lose the right to call himself stubborn if he quit. He actually grew into greater patience because of it. I don't believe getting over it is just to make you mad. There are lows, but as in life, the highs are often found on the other side of hard.
What makes me genuinely mad is when the game runs perfectly in singleplayer or local area network but when you go to online you start regularly dying from desync/lag/rubberbanding/generally-bad-netcode.
I vividly remember slamming my desk while fighting Demon of Hatred, having my mom scream at me, screaming back at her, then taking a deep breath, calming down and going for another (unsuccessful, obviously) run. 10/10 would recommend
Why anyone would enjoy being mad is beyond me, I tend to have a hard time turning something off that's making me mad until I overcome it, but that's not because I enjoy being mad, I just wanna beat whatever is angering me so I can move on with my day
@@XxXQuickScoperXxXJoinTheParty I... literally just explained that I don't, I try to work through my anger because like I already said, I want to get on with my day, and if I just shut off the game that will put me in a bad mood for the rest of it. I get no enjoyment from getting mad or having something to be mad at
@@The_Number1Candyman Don't mind them, they're just stupid and don't understand how genuinely insane the average neurotypical's sense of normality really is. Being angry is horrible and exhausting and I would know because I am constantly stressed out and I want everything to fucking end. You're the sane one.
I recently beat Ninja Gaiden Black, and that game basically starts hard and only gets harder. There's a point in the game where you, a ninja, fight two tanks followed by a helicopter. It was frustrating to be sure, but the combination of the game's mechanics being rock-solid (if you die it's literally your fault) and the absurdity of the situation kept me playing.
i absolutely love if games make you mad if it was your fault. i never played much shooter games before doom eternal, but now its one of my favourite games because of this
The problem with the anger factor (for me) is if it goes beyond reasonable, while it won't stop me from completing the game, it will prevent any future replays as the experience was soured to the point of being a chore rather than enjoyment. Elden Ring did this to me recently where instead of catharsis from a victory after 100 tries my thoughts were simply "What a waste of time."
At the ripe old age of 28 the only thing that actually annoys me now is lag. Everything else i can laugh off or just not be phased by anymore. But lag... it just gets under my skin instantly to the point I'll just close the game down at the first sign of it lol. You will not get into my head!
Only thing that really REALLY made me pissed of was the power outages in my house while playing a game, my city is shit with electricity so when that happens I just die from the inside
Earlier in my life, I was addicted to winning games. I staked my entire self-worth on it, and the only response to losing was that I had to play better, practice more, and beat myself up harder for allowing failure. The good feelings only persisted as long as the "victory" text was on screen, but the pain of never being good enough was constant. If I lost, it was MY FAULT, so I tilted, played worse, tilted harder, and that would lead to a painful session where I attempted to prove that I had what it takes to win. Usually, the tilt would not allow this and I would crash irl, drowning under the weight of my own expectations. These days I've restructured my relationship with games. I get angry far less, and if I feel myself getting frustrated it's quitting time, at least for 10-30 minutes or just switch game. I game less than I used to, but enjoy it so so so much more. Now that winning isn't my life, I'm actually a better player because the pressure isn't there. If I kick ass I kick ass, and if I don't, there's next match. If getting angry at a game is actually fun for you, that's okay. I still bitch at the TV for bullshit desync or whatever, everyone needs an outlet. However, if you are internally abusing yourself because you lost, you need to find out why. Nobody deserves to be abused. There's only one person you can truly make treat you right, and they're always there. How they treat you matters. Take care of yourselves guys.
Hit the nail on the head with this one. It can be miserable getting your ass kicked over and over again, but the satisfaction of beating the challenge is something rarely matched.
Fulley agree, the secret final boss of the splatoon 2 octo expansion was insanely difficult and took me putting the game down for ages at a time and coming back to it, it was relentless but actually beating it felt so unbelievably rewarding and i think that it genuinely improved how i play the game online
big innovation in making people mad is mw 2019's death comms HEARING the person whine when you kill them was the absolute best part of getting decent at that game
Combining this and that open world video about Elden Ring and New Vegas by Adam Milard, the idea of near impossible difficulties in some places of the map. "What place is that?" "Those are the badlands. But we don't go there. It's safer to go around." "But it's faster to go through."
so glad you are talking about this topic. i still think about and miss the days of halo 3. me a group of friends used to go into halo 3 and shoot/melee teamates until they are 1 shot. but never actually betray so they couldnt boot us. 9/10 times you get a dude to kill you cause he gets so tilted. then you can boot him. god i miss 2008.
Good stuff man! I totally agree. I’d get my ass kicked in Elden Ring but it won’t stop me from progressing. There’s a drive within everyone to keep playing even going through the difficulty the game endures. It’s the reward of getting that difficulty to completion that we all love. The *satisfaction*. But anyways, love the video! Can’t wait for the next one BAEBY ❤️
I agree that anger can be a good motivator. I platinumed a game once, and half the reason I platinumed it was because people said it was too hard and tedious.
@@pleasegoawaydude It's like when you wanna punch someone in the face, but you can't because assault is illegal, so you have to find a nonviolent way to get back at them for annoying you.
The best thing is when a game like red dead online has a parlay option so if you are tired of someone killing you you can stop it for a short time but... Your "honor" doesn't let you press the button. you even get a chance to parlay everytime you die.
when i get mad it's either because for whatever reason i am in a shitty mood or i have gotten absolutely STEAMROLLED in an FPS game. like team getting literally no where because the enemy team is so batshit sweaty
Back in the early days of Overwatch, I'd realize how frustrating it was to get frozen and wait for her to kill you. So I'd Teabag after I'd freeze a person. It'd get so bad that I'd have 2-3 enemies hunt me down, completely ignoring the objective and open areas that'd benefit them in a fight against Mei.
1:11 So I went back and examined this frame by frame and…. It doesn’t look like it’s the player’s fault at all? Fully scoped in, crouched, crosshair is dead on target and there’s no blur which means he’d stopped long enough to shoot. That looks like bad hit reg to me. Can anyone else chime in?
0:17 Making any mess in that game (Viscera Cleanup Detail) is going too far. The game is addicting but you're also always wishing you could do it faster, a weird balance
I disagree with this framing, at least in my personal experience. I am a disturbingly calm player. I was once playing LFD2 and trying to beat every chapter on the hardest difficulty. On one level I was continually getting matched with a troll. He would show up, kill me and my teammates, and then leave. And he kept showing up to do this every time I tried reloading the level. One by one my allies left until I was the only one playing. I kept playing though. He kept killing me over and over. Annnnnnd....I didn't feel an ounce of rage. I just considered it a part of the challenge and carried on. At one point curiosity overtook me and I started a conversation with the troll. Me: Wait (before he left again) Me: Why are you doing this? Him: Because I like to make people mad. Him: I can stop if you want. Me: I honestly don't care. Him: Well, its not fun if you don't get angry. Good bye. Me: Take care! And he left. Some teammates joined the match and I kept pressing on. Eventually he showed up again...only to immediately leave without doing anything to my teammates or me. I was amazed for a moment until a new troll showed up to mow us all down. I laughed, checked the clock, and powered down the game to go to bed. Rage is an experience I rarely feel, or that motivates me to keep playing. I was playing a rage game called 'Will you Snail' and I was actually disappointed in the insults of the antagonist and their inability to stir any emotion in me. I recently picked up Elden Ring. Same story, I can keep fighting the same boss over and over without feeling an ounce of rage. None of the characters in Heroes of the Storm, Overwatch, or League of Legends make me mad to fight against them. I love everyone in the roster and am unbiased by my failure to beat them at times. Moments like this made me realize there is something weird with my brain compared to many other gamers that I meet. There are things in real life that make me mad, but I am always quick to mitigate that anger through things like meditation or angry emails that I don't actually send.
I envy you more than you could ever imagine. The only response my brain can produce is stress, no matter the stimuli. Living is pain, and any recreational activity (video games, videos, books, shows and movies) end up making me feel worse. Every waking moment is anger and stress and I would gladly kill somebody with my bare hands to have your experience.
And this is why I main Spy in Team Fortress 2. It pisses the entire enemy team off, it pisses my team off, it even pisses me off! But we all enjoy it regardless, _r-right?_
With Doom eternal, a single mistake in the Ultra Nightmare run can reset your run. One mistake and that’s it, there’s no wiggle room and I love being able to see the trophy I get once I complete it
I remember playing those Slayer Gates so many times But not to brag, I (technically) beat the Icon Of Sin in one go (with 35 extra lives, ended with 5 lol... and I was on Hurt Me Plenty)
I find people making each other on social media and in games angry ultimately and unsurprisingly irrelevant, stupid, mediocre and tired. In my opinion, “teabagging” is the most exhausted and pathetic way of making someone break their controller. (This probably explains why I have no reaction to it)
I only really get mad in competitive games when im doing well or even really good and then start failing, after failing once losing confidence and failing over and over for the rest of the time I play.
This is why co-op splitscreen games are very rare because when a player does a little bit of tomfoolery he is guaranteed to get f-u-c-k-e-d by the other one
Bruh. When someone backstabs me in any gun-game with knives, then dances/T-Bags me, I would hunt them down (99% In-game, 1% IRL) and do whatever I can to make them rage quit. If they're hacking, and T-Bagging the whole server, I will still do whatever I can to make the Hacker rage quit. Even if it goes up to two hours, I'll be there 3, 4, 5 hours? Yes indeed.
I play a game where the developers intentionally encourage toxicity and unhealthy gameplay habits. (Manipulating you into feeling like you have to grind for hours/spend money on it. Getting mad is expected and it's more an issue of not getting mad enough to get banned.
haha lol i saw that Doom gameplay in the video defenitely an old school un-heard of game that really touches the heart in gaming and hits different than other games
I use to play games until they get me really mad until I think its been like 4 years now, I punched a massive hole in my wall because i tried to get into Battle Royale games (BTW I am really bad at games for how much i play them) and looking at physical property damage made me realize that videos games aren't really worth this amount of energy, and that combined with me realizing I don't really like feeling mad, is the reason why now whenever I get upset with games I just turn them off and play something else. And that is why I will never finish Elden Ring especially now that I can play Lego Skywalker Saga, a game for children more inline with my skill level.
See, I played Dead Space 2, I love the game. However later in the game I found myself being stuck for an hour or more at sections. I never exactly got mad, but excitedly frustrated. Despite that after the section I'd be desperately low on ammo and low on health and no stasis, but I'd say "I wish that was harder."
I'm fine putting a game down because the level of challenge it offers or the patience and dedication that it demands just isn't what I want to put up with. I can realize when I'm out of my depth and I'm just not clicking with a game on a fundamental level. But when I _almost_ enjoy a game, though it pisses me off and it's clear that my wasted time honestly wasn't due to a screwup on my part, I get upset to a point that might seem excessive to others but is certainly warranted to me. If the game allows me to softlock myself because I approached a combat zone understocked, that's not my fault. If the map is just too open and enemy players make it a sniper-infested hell, that isn't my fault. When a boss is obnoxiously sponge-y or possesses disgustingly overpowered attacks (and slim as hecc dodge windows), that isn't my fault. There are solutions for all of these issues, but why should I be forced to load a save from an hour back, boycott half of a game's maps, exploit bumps in the AI, abuse an obscure meta strat, or otherwise optimize the fun out of my own experience just to play my game without being a step away from uninstalling at every turn?? I'm willing to adapt to a context in which the it seems fair to ask that of the player, but some things are just unreasonable to demand of me. I feel no shame about being a casual player, don't you dare punch down. Just let me have fun.
RNG makes me mad because I have dog crap luck. I'll drop in Apex Legends, grab a p2020 and a bandage out of a crate, turn around and have a full squad with r-301, wingman and peacekeeper and purple Evo murdering me. It would be a fluke, but it will happen 4 or 5 games in a row and piss me off.
I by no means consider myself a good player, even games where I have the movement down to a science. I refuse to play hard difficulties because I will get so unbelievably mad and start hating a game I love. Halo Reach is the only halo i've done legendary on and will never again. The part that hurt the most is that the halo community says that Reach is the easiest to do legendary on yet I struggled so hard with it. If it's a fighting game like smash bros. that's one thing cause it's a nice challenge, but a shooter (3rd or 1st person) will make want to drive to the developers house and kick them in the balls because I suck at their game.
I'd like you to talk about games that have frustration built in, but not intentionally: Games with terrible multiplayer balancing of weapons, abilities, vehicles, you name it it'd be interesting to hear what you think on that topic
Seems misleading to me. As you said , it's not the art of getting mad, it's the art of overcoming difficulties. Also don't believe teabagging or trolling can be compared to intentional game design. As that was a learning curve that was programmed into the game to help players get better. Trolls don't care if one gets better, unlike devs. They just want to bully to bully. The already implemented design for all games is the defeat screen and loss/reduction of score, that's the true motivation intended by devs. Trolling is something a player does that is an unintentional, possible game mechanic. The unintentional nature is what makes it considered fun. I appreciate the video. I just don't understand the relation to player trolling. I already accepted the intentional design that devs create for challenge, as an achievement hunter, it makes me believe every achievement is possible. Thanks for the vid
My own Slayer Gate is the Trial of the Fool from Hollow Knight. I have beaten both Nightmare Grimm and The Radiance (after many, _many_ tries, granted) and this challenge still mocks both my lack of skill and poor hardware choices. But it does come at a point where I can't take the stress and anger anymore, and I have to back down, defeated, and let me tell you, it's not a fun feeling. I don't keep on trying because I enjoy being mad, I keep on trying mostly becasue my pride is too damn high and fragile sometimes, and being bested by a computer sucks.
I complain the most about games I enjoy That said, good challenges leave you feeling satisfied when they're overcome, bad ones just make you say "finally that's over with"
I'm one to take it too far, back at the height of TF2, and COD Zombies, tossing a teammate live grenades, or singling out someone with a Cloak and Dagger. I've never been one to take games seriously, but hope there are still people who do so I can resume my shenanigans.
Cod 2019 has Skill based matchmaking, but for as long as I knew, I’ve always been on top of the scoreboard of most my games. It keeps throwing tryhards at me and I can see their hands shaking fighting me. But all I can do is laugh knowing I don’t have to break a sweat. So much shit talk gets tossed around and I just laugh. No other game can I consistently get 3kd average and easily get 1-3 10kd games a day.
I really only get very annoyed or outright angry when I feel like a game has cheated me. Example: Maybe 40% or so through Outlast 2 you are put in a typical horror situation: arena with scary boss who will kill you instantly if you are caught, and it's up to you to get away with your wits and your wits alone. This trope is used all the time in horror because it never fails to make a player feel smart for playing around a boss and outsmarting them. This particular arena was a small riverside town, with a big gate you needed to hop over. You needed to roll a cart up to it to jump over, but it takes a while, so you have to avoid the monster and come back a few times. Great so far. Buuuuuut, here's the issue: even if you're about 100ft away from your objective, and see Marta near you, and you use that chance to get over to the cart, she'll instantly teleport over there. This leads to feeling like you were cheated. You can lead her away, knowing she doesn't walk very fast, and get as far away as possible, then sprint all the way to the cart, just to plainly and blatantly get cheated by the game. Made me quit the game for a week. I was playing on the harder difficulty and was really happy when I felt like I had got a hold of the monster and had outsmarted her, just to have the game spit in my face and say "fuck you, asshole".
I normally don't rage much, the most I'll do is throw my controller onto my mattress (its bounced off a few times and it was hilarious enough to make me laugh). That said, dark souls brought that out in me. I've NEVER been so angry at a game, but I like it. Idk maybe dark souls enjoyers are masochists.
One of my personal favorites is at the start of Super Paper Mario. You need to talk to an NPC to raise a bridge to progress. The NPC then asks you what his favorite color is, and he kicks you out of his house if you answer anything but red. Now the next guy does the same, but since his favorite is green and Mario is dressed in red, he kicks you out regardless of your answer. It’s one of my favorite examples of this, and the thing is, the bridge raises anyway! It gets you nervous over answering wrong for nothing! I feel like more games need to use some humor like that now.
What happens if you say red?
"its just a little bit of trolling"
the guy who fell 8 stories, broke his spine, and will never be able to walk or speak again:
the maidenless NPC might be one of the funniest things i’ve ever seen in a video game
And the best part is that his questline requires you to invade other players. A little trolling.
Stryxo: "Doom Eternal"
youtube auto captions: "do maternal"
Do Matter know?
Easiest way to annoy me, especially in multiplayer, is getting steamrolled. I *hate* playing a game only to basically not be able to play it anyway.
@@XxXQuickScoperXxXJoinTheParty i think hes talking about multiplayer games, and in those games, no matter how good you get, theres gonna always be someone far better than you.
But I mean, it happens
someone has to lose for someone to have fun. it sucks that game devs ahvent figured out a good enough balancing stragetgy yet, but it just happens.
To clarify, it's not that I hate losing. But it ticks me off when the enemy team kick our asses with no real way to retaliate. I wanna have fun whether I come out on top or not.
I remember in Halo Reach, depending on the map design you could literally spawn trap a team on the invasion mode. Grenades placed RIGHT where you'd spawn, and explode exactly when spawning in and instakilled by pistol. Now THAT is downright oof material
@@plumdowner1941 That's what I implied with "play easier games" Your chances to win (or to enjoy the game) are more even if the game is easy to learn for everyone.
My favorite 'Trollish' behaviour was back in Overwatch spamming Mei's "Sorry, SORRY, sorry I'm sorry..." Voice line on repeat. Before they nerfed it down to 3 voice lines per 15 seconds, you could tell everyone in the game Sorry 16 times/15 seconds. Maximizing your trolling output.
This is the equivalent of spamming literally any quick chat in Rocket League (you can to a max of 4 lines in a row until chat cooldown which is only like 4-5 seconds or something)
@@MinerDiner "Nice Play! Nice Play! _Nice Play!_ *Nice Play!"*
@@EZOnTheEyes nothing beats "Nice shot!" and "Nice save!" when your random teammate fucks something up
"h2 legendary isnt hard" :>) wojak mask infront of coping crynig wojak
You never trash talk someone in a game. You just make them furious and troll them in game whilst sometimes dropping "ok" or "mad" for maximum mald on their part.
MALDING
"you seem upset" is my favorite lol
68th like, I have granted the next person to see this a great opportunity.
sometimes game devs make their game challenging but in a fun way . but sometimes the devs just make certain times in the game down right frustrating that its not challenging but just feels like they want to increase play time
Like the Doomsday, Casino and the Cayo Perico heists?
"r u angry bro?" "is there a problem?"
@@lakerfan2874 Casino isnt hard in the slightest
I’ve played Doom Eternal on nightmare difficulty just to get my Gatler a gold coating
@@alternative6882 what is a Gatler? (no spoilers plz)
Honestly, the motivation for me doesn't come from the anger, it comes from the adrenaline of getting further than my previous attempt at a boss or level in a difficult game.
Same here.
I forced my roommate to play getting over it. He would have quit but what held him was me telling him he would lose the right to call himself stubborn if he quit. He actually grew into greater patience because of it. I don't believe getting over it is just to make you mad. There are lows, but as in life, the highs are often found on the other side of hard.
Great video! I feel it's worth mentioning the game types such as Sea of Thieves and Rust, where people literally fight over eachothers work / gameplay
What makes me genuinely mad is when the game runs perfectly in singleplayer or local area network but when you go to online you start regularly dying from desync/lag/rubberbanding/generally-bad-netcode.
I vividly remember slamming my desk while fighting Demon of Hatred, having my mom scream at me, screaming back at her, then taking a deep breath, calming down and going for another (unsuccessful, obviously) run.
10/10 would recommend
Imagine talking about games that make you mad and not even talking about geometry dash.
thats a skill based game tho
@@shrek9025 so is every other game
@@neontd Not every other game. Sometimes the game just plays against you like Stick Fight.
“Dad why are you crouching on that dead body”
“ITS THE LAW!”
😆 ASSERT DOMINANCE
Why anyone would enjoy being mad is beyond me, I tend to have a hard time turning something off that's making me mad until I overcome it, but that's not because I enjoy being mad, I just wanna beat whatever is angering me so I can move on with my day
@@XxXQuickScoperXxXJoinTheParty I... literally just explained that I don't, I try to work through my anger because like I already said, I want to get on with my day, and if I just shut off the game that will put me in a bad mood for the rest of it. I get no enjoyment from getting mad or having something to be mad at
@@The_Number1Candyman Don't mind them, they're just stupid and don't understand how genuinely insane the average neurotypical's sense of normality really is.
Being angry is horrible and exhausting and I would know because I am constantly stressed out and I want everything to fucking end.
You're the sane one.
@@pleasegoawaydude I'm sorry to hear that, I hope things get better for you in the future
I recently beat Ninja Gaiden Black, and that game basically starts hard and only gets harder. There's a point in the game where you, a ninja, fight two tanks followed by a helicopter. It was frustrating to be sure, but the combination of the game's mechanics being rock-solid (if you die it's literally your fault) and the absurdity of the situation kept me playing.
i absolutely love if games make you mad if it was your fault. i never played much shooter games before doom eternal, but now its one of my favourite games because of this
The problem with the anger factor (for me) is if it goes beyond reasonable, while it won't stop me from completing the game, it will prevent any future replays as the experience was soured to the point of being a chore rather than enjoyment. Elden Ring did this to me recently where instead of catharsis from a victory after 100 tries my thoughts were simply "What a waste of time."
At the ripe old age of 28 the only thing that actually annoys me now is lag. Everything else i can laugh off or just not be phased by anymore. But lag... it just gets under my skin instantly to the point I'll just close the game down at the first sign of it lol. You will not get into my head!
Yeah it's not fun
Only thing that really REALLY made me pissed of was the power outages in my house while playing a game, my city is shit with electricity so when that happens I just die from the inside
Earlier in my life, I was addicted to winning games. I staked my entire self-worth on it, and the only response to losing was that I had to play better, practice more, and beat myself up harder for allowing failure. The good feelings only persisted as long as the "victory" text was on screen, but the pain of never being good enough was constant. If I lost, it was MY FAULT, so I tilted, played worse, tilted harder, and that would lead to a painful session where I attempted to prove that I had what it takes to win. Usually, the tilt would not allow this and I would crash irl, drowning under the weight of my own expectations.
These days I've restructured my relationship with games. I get angry far less, and if I feel myself getting frustrated it's quitting time, at least for 10-30 minutes or just switch game. I game less than I used to, but enjoy it so so so much more. Now that winning isn't my life, I'm actually a better player because the pressure isn't there. If I kick ass I kick ass, and if I don't, there's next match.
If getting angry at a game is actually fun for you, that's okay. I still bitch at the TV for bullshit desync or whatever, everyone needs an outlet. However, if you are internally abusing yourself because you lost, you need to find out why. Nobody deserves to be abused. There's only one person you can truly make treat you right, and they're always there. How they treat you matters. Take care of yourselves guys.
“You got zero bitches” proceeds to beat the shot out of me after he says that?
Good video stryxo, i am suffering in DBFZ rn and you almost summed everything up about getting mad at videogames
Hit the nail on the head with this one. It can be miserable getting your ass kicked over and over again, but the satisfaction of beating the challenge is something rarely matched.
Everyone says this, yet when I once in a million years achieve something, I regret every moment of it and feel horrible.
Fulley agree, the secret final boss of the splatoon 2 octo expansion was insanely difficult and took me putting the game down for ages at a time and coming back to it, it was relentless but actually beating it felt so unbelievably rewarding and i think that it genuinely improved how i play the game online
big innovation in making people mad is mw 2019's death comms HEARING the person whine when you kill them was the absolute best part of getting decent at that game
Combining this and that open world video about Elden Ring and New Vegas by Adam Milard, the idea of near impossible difficulties in some places of the map.
"What place is that?"
"Those are the badlands. But we don't go there. It's safer to go around."
"But it's faster to go through."
The only things i get mad games are:
1. Game mechanics doesn't work as intended.
2. The motherfockin lag
so glad you are talking about this topic. i still think about and miss the days of halo 3.
me a group of friends used to go into halo 3 and shoot/melee teamates until they are 1 shot. but never actually betray so they couldnt boot us. 9/10 times you get a dude to kill you cause he gets so tilted. then you can boot him. god i miss 2008.
Good stuff man! I totally agree. I’d get my ass kicked in Elden Ring but it won’t stop me from progressing. There’s a drive within everyone to keep playing even going through the difficulty the game endures. It’s the reward of getting that difficulty to completion that we all love. The *satisfaction*. But anyways, love the video! Can’t wait for the next one BAEBY ❤️
Drive's not within everyone. You're so lucky and you'll never even understand why. God, I'm so tired of being the one who gets left out in this world.
Trolling is an art form sometimes
"why dont you play something else?"
because anger is an addictive substance!
I agree that anger can be a good motivator. I platinumed a game once, and half the reason I platinumed it was because people said it was too hard and tedious.
How do you people exist? I don't understand how people genuinely find anger motivating. I just get tired.
@@pleasegoawaydude It's like when you wanna punch someone in the face, but you can't because assault is illegal, so you have to find a nonviolent way to get back at them for annoying you.
The best thing is when a game like red dead online has a parlay option so if you are tired of someone killing you you can stop it for a short time but... Your "honor" doesn't let you press the button. you even get a chance to parlay everytime you die.
when i get mad it's either because for whatever reason i am in a shitty mood or i have gotten absolutely STEAMROLLED in an FPS game. like team getting literally no where because the enemy team is so batshit sweaty
I wish I'd enjoy getting mad and could finish the first dark souls game... those players seem to be having fun
felt this, i absolutely suck at soulsborne games so i experience the FOMO from fromsoft
It’s called doing a little trolling 🤪
Back in the early days of Overwatch,
I'd realize how frustrating it was to get frozen and wait for her to kill you. So I'd Teabag after I'd freeze a person. It'd get so bad that I'd have 2-3 enemies hunt me down, completely ignoring the objective and open areas that'd benefit them in a fight against Mei.
I click on the video, pause it, and immediately look into the description. First thing to pop up is “Dark Souls”
…so yes…
“making you mad”
I usually don't get angry at games unless I feel like I'm not learning anything from losing
the original half life invented trolling by putting a FUCKING SENTRY AFTER THE FIGHT WHEN I HAVE 6 HP IN A CORNER OF THE ROOM
1:11 So I went back and examined this frame by frame and…. It doesn’t look like it’s the player’s fault at all? Fully scoped in, crouched, crosshair is dead on target and there’s no blur which means he’d stopped long enough to shoot. That looks like bad hit reg to me. Can anyone else chime in?
0:17 Making any mess in that game (Viscera Cleanup Detail) is going too far. The game is addicting but you're also always wishing you could do it faster, a weird balance
Halo 2 Legendary turns into a fun chaos fair after you finish it and make friends play with you
LASO... is where it gets hard.
I disagree with this framing, at least in my personal experience. I am a disturbingly calm player. I was once playing LFD2 and trying to beat every chapter on the hardest difficulty. On one level I was continually getting matched with a troll. He would show up, kill me and my teammates, and then leave. And he kept showing up to do this every time I tried reloading the level. One by one my allies left until I was the only one playing.
I kept playing though. He kept killing me over and over. Annnnnnd....I didn't feel an ounce of rage. I just considered it a part of the challenge and carried on. At one point curiosity overtook me and I started a conversation with the troll.
Me: Wait (before he left again)
Me: Why are you doing this?
Him: Because I like to make people mad.
Him: I can stop if you want.
Me: I honestly don't care.
Him: Well, its not fun if you don't get angry. Good bye.
Me: Take care!
And he left. Some teammates joined the match and I kept pressing on. Eventually he showed up again...only to immediately leave without doing anything to my teammates or me. I was amazed for a moment until a new troll showed up to mow us all down. I laughed, checked the clock, and powered down the game to go to bed.
Rage is an experience I rarely feel, or that motivates me to keep playing. I was playing a rage game called 'Will you Snail' and I was actually disappointed in the insults of the antagonist and their inability to stir any emotion in me.
I recently picked up Elden Ring. Same story, I can keep fighting the same boss over and over without feeling an ounce of rage.
None of the characters in Heroes of the Storm, Overwatch, or League of Legends make me mad to fight against them. I love everyone in the roster and am unbiased by my failure to beat them at times.
Moments like this made me realize there is something weird with my brain compared to many other gamers that I meet. There are things in real life that make me mad, but I am always quick to mitigate that anger through things like meditation or angry emails that I don't actually send.
I envy you more than you could ever imagine.
The only response my brain can produce is stress, no matter the stimuli. Living is pain, and any recreational activity (video games, videos, books, shows and movies) end up making me feel worse. Every waking moment is anger and stress and I would gladly kill somebody with my bare hands to have your experience.
The campaign slayer gates on nightmare were fun and easy, but the ancient gods DLC slayer gates on nightmare are absolutely unplayable
NOT THE CDK CLIP AT THE END LMAOOOOOO anyways great video as always
I be mad at myself sometimes but i love you stryxo i love all your videos
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@@Gandoof Yes
@@AnnNymos And
And this is why I main Spy in Team Fortress 2. It pisses the entire enemy team off, it pisses my team off, it even pisses me off! But we all enjoy it regardless, _r-right?_
Revenge on the toxic, is always the sweetest
They can remove our all chat but they can't remove our t bag
With Doom eternal, a single mistake in the Ultra Nightmare run can reset your run. One mistake and that’s it, there’s no wiggle room and I love being able to see the trophy I get once I complete it
As a hothead, I refuse to play games whose point is to piss me off. I'll just end up cryquitting so I don't need that exhaustion in my life, thanks.
I remember playing those Slayer Gates so many times
But not to brag, I (technically) beat the Icon Of Sin in one go (with 35 extra lives, ended with 5 lol... and I was on Hurt Me Plenty)
literally my favourite channel i fucking love seeing your notification so fucking under rated
I find people making each other on social media and in games angry ultimately and unsurprisingly irrelevant, stupid, mediocre and tired.
In my opinion, “teabagging” is the most exhausted and pathetic way of making someone break their controller. (This probably explains why I have no reaction to it)
I really agree and like the video bro, I enjoy getting mad. Here's a sub✋ 😂
I only really get mad in competitive games when im doing well or even really good and then start failing, after failing once losing confidence and failing over and over for the rest of the time I play.
This is why co-op splitscreen games are very rare because when a player does a little bit of tomfoolery he is guaranteed to get f-u-c-k-e-d by the other one
This art made my brother completely ruin his own phone
failing shadow raid from falling a bit too far 30 minutes into the heist
Bruh. When someone backstabs me in any gun-game with knives, then dances/T-Bags me, I would hunt them down (99% In-game, 1% IRL) and do whatever I can to make them rage quit. If they're hacking, and T-Bagging the whole server, I will still do whatever I can to make the Hacker rage quit. Even if it goes up to two hours, I'll be there 3, 4, 5 hours? Yes indeed.
one time i got so mad, and i punched my desk so hard, that I fractured my thumb. (A very small fracture but still)
Yeah, the slayer gates,were hard, but so much fun :D
it's always fun to tbag someone and get tagged back
I play a game where the developers intentionally encourage toxicity and unhealthy gameplay habits. (Manipulating you into feeling like you have to grind for hours/spend money on it. Getting mad is expected and it's more an issue of not getting mad enough to get banned.
haha lol i saw that Doom gameplay in the video defenitely an old school un-heard of game that really touches the heart in gaming and hits different than other games
“Making you mad” I play siege man I’ve been mad enough
I use to play games until they get me really mad until I think its been like 4 years now, I punched a massive hole in my wall because i tried to get into Battle Royale games (BTW I am really bad at games for how much i play them) and looking at physical property damage made me realize that videos games aren't really worth this amount of energy, and that combined with me realizing I don't really like feeling mad, is the reason why now whenever I get upset with games I just turn them off and play something else.
And that is why I will never finish Elden Ring especially now that I can play Lego Skywalker Saga, a game for children more inline with my skill level.
Actually CSGO has a broken shooting mechanic, clearly visible on Crowbcat video so it's not a lack of skill but crappy mechanic
I troll sweaty nerds everyday in CoD, they think im mad so they get mad at me 🤣
If they thought you were mad they wouldn't actually get mad. Kinda sus that you're saying that 🤨
The only thing that keeps me from throwing my controller and smashing it is not wanting to waste money on a bunch of new controllers
See, I played Dead Space 2, I love the game. However later in the game I found myself being stuck for an hour or more at sections. I never exactly got mad, but excitedly frustrated. Despite that after the section I'd be desperately low on ammo and low on health and no stasis, but I'd say "I wish that was harder."
I'm fine putting a game down because the level of challenge it offers or the patience and dedication that it demands just isn't what I want to put up with. I can realize when I'm out of my depth and I'm just not clicking with a game on a fundamental level.
But when I _almost_ enjoy a game, though it pisses me off and it's clear that my wasted time honestly wasn't due to a screwup on my part, I get upset to a point that might seem excessive to others but is certainly warranted to me. If the game allows me to softlock myself because I approached a combat zone understocked, that's not my fault. If the map is just too open and enemy players make it a sniper-infested hell, that isn't my fault. When a boss is obnoxiously sponge-y or possesses disgustingly overpowered attacks (and slim as hecc dodge windows), that isn't my fault. There are solutions for all of these issues, but why should I be forced to load a save from an hour back, boycott half of a game's maps, exploit bumps in the AI, abuse an obscure meta strat, or otherwise optimize the fun out of my own experience just to play my game without being a step away from uninstalling at every turn?? I'm willing to adapt to a context in which the it seems fair to ask that of the player, but some things are just unreasonable to demand of me. I feel no shame about being a casual player, don't you dare punch down. Just let me have fun.
RNG makes me mad because I have dog crap luck. I'll drop in Apex Legends, grab a p2020 and a bandage out of a crate, turn around and have a full squad with r-301, wingman and peacekeeper and purple Evo murdering me. It would be a fluke, but it will happen 4 or 5 games in a row and piss me off.
I by no means consider myself a good player, even games where I have the movement down to a science. I refuse to play hard difficulties because I will get so unbelievably mad and start hating a game I love. Halo Reach is the only halo i've done legendary on and will never again. The part that hurt the most is that the halo community says that Reach is the easiest to do legendary on yet I struggled so hard with it. If it's a fighting game like smash bros. that's one thing cause it's a nice challenge, but a shooter (3rd or 1st person) will make want to drive to the developers house and kick them in the balls because I suck at their game.
Nothing will ever beat the Halo teabag smack dab my boii 😆
I'd like you to talk about games that have frustration built in, but not intentionally: Games with terrible multiplayer balancing of weapons, abilities, vehicles, you name it
it'd be interesting to hear what you think on that topic
Seems misleading to me. As you said , it's not the art of getting mad, it's the art of overcoming difficulties. Also don't believe teabagging or trolling can be compared to intentional game design. As that was a learning curve that was programmed into the game to help players get better. Trolls don't care if one gets better, unlike devs. They just want to bully to bully. The already implemented design for all games is the defeat screen and loss/reduction of score, that's the true motivation intended by devs. Trolling is something a player does that is an unintentional, possible game mechanic. The unintentional nature is what makes it considered fun. I appreciate the video. I just don't understand the relation to player trolling.
I already accepted the intentional design that devs create for challenge, as an achievement hunter, it makes me believe every achievement is possible. Thanks for the vid
Underrail Cave Crawler hideout, the one near Rail Crossing, if you know you know.
Listen bro, I retaliate when I hit my head on something. It's always personal
I’ve never understand that ‘this game sucks’. Sure I get mad, but I get made at the players or npc that killed me
i just like hearing people talk about DOOM eternal
My own Slayer Gate is the Trial of the Fool from Hollow Knight. I have beaten both Nightmare Grimm and The Radiance (after many, _many_ tries, granted) and this challenge still mocks both my lack of skill and poor hardware choices. But it does come at a point where I can't take the stress and anger anymore, and I have to back down, defeated, and let me tell you, it's not a fun feeling.
I don't keep on trying because I enjoy being mad, I keep on trying mostly becasue my pride is too damn high and fragile sometimes, and being bested by a computer sucks.
I complain the most about games I enjoy
That said, good challenges leave you feeling satisfied when they're overcome, bad ones just make you say "finally that's over with"
*All challenges are awful and not worth the effort.
when playing doom i accidentally clicked on Nightmare mode and wound up finishing the game in 8hrs
I saw that little clip of teamavolition.. :) Ave gloriosa in nomine satan
I'm one to take it too far, back at the height of TF2, and COD Zombies, tossing a teammate live grenades, or singling out someone with a Cloak and Dagger. I've never been one to take games seriously, but hope there are still people who do so I can resume my shenanigans.
"dont throw EMP when i get ray gun >:(" -person on town after you "accidentally" throw an emp at the box when he gets the ray gun
*cough cough* me- playing 1k hours of project zomboid after giving it a bad review and telling all my friends not to get it
Cod 2019 has Skill based matchmaking, but for as long as I knew, I’ve always been on top of the scoreboard of most my games. It keeps throwing tryhards at me and I can see their hands shaking fighting me. But all I can do is laugh knowing I don’t have to break a sweat. So much shit talk gets tossed around and I just laugh. No other game can I consistently get 3kd average and easily get 1-3 10kd games a day.
Tea bagging makes me MALD
I really only get very annoyed or outright angry when I feel like a game has cheated me. Example:
Maybe 40% or so through Outlast 2 you are put in a typical horror situation: arena with scary boss who will kill you instantly if you are caught, and it's up to you to get away with your wits and your wits alone. This trope is used all the time in horror because it never fails to make a player feel smart for playing around a boss and outsmarting them. This particular arena was a small riverside town, with a big gate you needed to hop over. You needed to roll a cart up to it to jump over, but it takes a while, so you have to avoid the monster and come back a few times. Great so far. Buuuuuut, here's the issue: even if you're about 100ft away from your objective, and see Marta near you, and you use that chance to get over to the cart, she'll instantly teleport over there. This leads to feeling like you were cheated. You can lead her away, knowing she doesn't walk very fast, and get as far away as possible, then sprint all the way to the cart, just to plainly and blatantly get cheated by the game. Made me quit the game for a week. I was playing on the harder difficulty and was really happy when I felt like I had got a hold of the monster and had outsmarted her, just to have the game spit in my face and say "fuck you, asshole".
I normally don't rage much, the most I'll do is throw my controller onto my mattress (its bounced off a few times and it was hilarious enough to make me laugh). That said, dark souls brought that out in me. I've NEVER been so angry at a game, but I like it. Idk maybe dark souls enjoyers are masochists.
Get ya Oreos get ya milk, stryxo uploaded
( begin of the video) I like it
( End of the video) I liked it
Doom Eternal gets so much easier once you start fast-switching your weapons. I guarantee you won't have as much trouble if you tried it.
Pro tip:
If they accuse you of trolling or griefing type haha yeah
I’m playin donkey Kong country returns right now. Those goddam k levels.