Had the Pi6's and returned them (twice) due to Bluetooth connectivity issues (a software update may be able to fix). Also note that the Pi6's only utilize a 2 band EQ versus the 5-7 band on the Pi8's.
@@Fredo.heavyy Because it's way cheaper and they want to make it seem like having a more flexible EQ makes the few hundred dollar difference worth it. If they put the same band on the Pi6 there would be no reason for people to choose the Pi8 over it
Great Vid Fredo. I also agree, the connection process is a bit longer than usual for me. I heard B&W don't really release firmware updates and more so on the notion that you get what you get. What's the camera you use to record? It's crisp.
Was using the FX30 for this video but just recently sold it for a ZVE10 II. Real secret to the crispy image is the lens I use, Yongnuo 16mm f1.8. It’s perfect blend of price and performance.
Great review, due to the issues and lack of expected software updates I’ll probably pass on these. Have you had a chance to review the Master and Dynamic Mw09’s ? I feel liked they’re severely overlooked by most reviewers for some reason!
Thanks for the great review, bro! Would you consider comparing the Pi8 with the B&O Eleven? As an audiophile, I’m finding it tough to decide without being able to try the demo units.
I just bought the pi8, they are insane and with the retransmission it sounds even better. I had the same doubts but they are worth it. The ANC is not the better I realize after a few hours it gets better. They don’t have many features to personalize but if you want the best sound they are insane. Also they are very loud
Would you do a Pi6 vs Pi8 review? I don’t think the distributor will have the Pi6 in Taiwan(but i could get them from amazon), so i wont be able to try them out and compare them with the Pi8. I really care about the audio, but haven’t found a good pair of wireless earbuds that satisfy me. I’ve been a Bose headphones/speakers user for over a decade. Their in-ear cable ones are great especially with the noise cancelling feature. And i also own a QC 30, it has served me well especially when travelling by plane. I’ve tried the Ultra in store, but the left earbud would just gradually slips out of my ear, and didn’t satisfy with the audio quality. On the very same day i also tried out the Pi7 S2, I’m happy with the audio quality, but the controls….so I didn’t get them. I’m so glad they have these 2 updated versions this year.
@@Fredo.heavyyI’ll check them out, Thanks! I’ve been checking out a lot of earbuds reviews on RUclips today, I think the Az80 will be on my check out list. And I’m looking forward to your Gemini review~
I’ve been told the Pi6 have less EQ options than the Pi8. Honestly the Pi6 took too long to get to market and I’m happy with the Bose quiet Comfort gen 2 and don’t have a desire to test the Pi6. That being said I still have the Pi8 they really are “reference” earbuds but not “bass bumping” edc buds I might pick up Pi6 in 2025 if I get bored
@@Monkeyindatrees The Pi8 delivery an all around best experience but I don't think general public will appreciate the "reference" sound. Like a wagyu stake given to a toddler.
They’re great for run, no ear tips but they have a mini ridge that locks nicely into my ear. I’ve put about 20-30 miles in these buds no problem and the aware mode handles ambient street noise well
The bass doesn’t blow me away, these really are reference earbuds so more “true” sound reproduction. Using the Bose quiet comfort gen 2 and loving those as my daily driver
@@Hijynx87 I have the Dali io 12 and Mark Levinson 5909. I don't regard any IEM as Reference. That's just not the case. That's not what they are supposed to be. I've had the XM4 and XM5 and Pi8 IEM's. They each have their own sound profile. Bose is typical Bose (all of which I've had) ie, their profile doesn't deviate from the Original Soundlink, The Soundlink Mini 2, the Mini and Large Revolves; it's all typical Bose so you know what you are buying into. They are certainly not odd. They are Tuned for Bose. In terms of Noise Cancelling they are exceptional. They also are flawless in every respect - basically they are IEM Holy Grail.
i had these and i had horrendous connectivity issues with them... cutting in and out, both ear buds refusing to connect, one or the other refusing to connect randomly. they sounded great when they worked but that was for like 2 minutes. the app is also terrible. i ended up trying out the Devialet gemini 2s, they are better. give those a try
Need to make time to test the Gemini 2, what device do you use them with? I heard some reports of people having connection issues with Pi8, this video is pretty old just took me awhile to upload. So far my pair work great with only random issue if I’m somewhere over populated with BT signals etc.
@@Fredo.heavyy ya I've had every fold except for the 5 cause it was the same as the 4. I still have the original that I use as a backup phone, they are amazing. I could never use a non folding device again. I really wish we could buy the mate XT but it sounds way too difficult to use not being able to use Google apps
Have these idk if they updated the software but mine didn't need an update when I got them. Haven't had any connection issues really and these things sound incredible for BT earbuds. Loudest and best sounding buds I've ever had and they aren't just loud they actually sound good when turned up. The app does kinda suck but it's not a deal breaker for me .
Lol! That's an interesting perspective. Psychologically it's reasonable to wonder if the price is worth the price gap between less expensive buds that offer exceptional sound quality. And then deciding between LDAC and APTX can leave you with a inconclusive mindset especially if you don't have the money to purchase both and decided based on listening experience.
Cool dude...i get through same issue when I take the earphones out too. However, yes I hate the battery life. I also hate how long it takes for the buds to actually recharge the earphones when you put them back in the case. Also Anc sucks for me. I hear so much more things vs others. At times the off mode works better than anc for certain sounds. The hear thru doesn't match bose or airpods. I also have delays in touch controls and the battery issues...( putting earbuds in for hours and pulling them out and the app tells me that they are still not 100%) Also be careful with your assumption that the pi6 are just like the pi8 ....they aren't. They sound quality isn't the same at all. I also hear things about connection issues with them. Hands down this the greatest sounding earphone on earth. But it sucks with every other feature most people need. And not worth $400
exactly. I had owned pi7 s2 i had got all these problems + more and B&W ,never ever release any patch to fix any single issuse.. so i never buy again premium level earbuds like this from elite audio company cuz their customer serrvice disaster i even rised the issue opened Ticket no reply lol. anyway thanks for video. in term of sound quality they are best but all other things worst
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Had the Pi6's and returned them (twice) due to Bluetooth connectivity issues (a software update may be able to fix). Also note that the Pi6's only utilize a 2 band EQ versus the 5-7 band on the Pi8's.
😂 2 bands?
Yep... only treble and bass for the EQ😅
Thanks for that info, not sure why’d they cripple the Pi6 like that
@@Fredo.heavyy Because it's way cheaper and they want to make it seem like having a more flexible EQ makes the few hundred dollar difference worth it. If they put the same band on the Pi6 there would be no reason for people to choose the Pi8 over it
@Fredo.heavyy did you end up getting the pi6 after all? If so, what do are your thoughts?
Great Vid Fredo. I also agree, the connection process is a bit longer than usual for me. I heard B&W don't really release firmware updates and more so on the notion that you get what you get.
What's the camera you use to record? It's crisp.
Was using the FX30 for this video but just recently sold it for a ZVE10 II.
Real secret to the crispy image is the lens I use, Yongnuo 16mm f1.8.
It’s perfect blend of price and performance.
Thanks for your response Fredo, much appreciated. Locked in!
Loving your content! Do you think you could please do a PI6 and AZ80 comparison video?
Great review, due to the issues and lack of expected software updates I’ll probably pass on these. Have you had a chance to review the Master and Dynamic Mw09’s ? I feel liked they’re severely overlooked by most reviewers for some reason!
Thanks for the great review, bro! Would you consider comparing the Pi8 with the B&O Eleven? As an audiophile, I’m finding it tough to decide without being able to try the demo units.
I just bought the pi8, they are insane and with the retransmission it sounds even better. I had the same doubts but they are worth it. The ANC is not the better I realize after a few hours it gets better. They don’t have many features to personalize but if you want the best sound they are insane. Also they are very loud
You mentioning switching out the eartips in the video but were not sure of the company name. What make and model are you using?
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Thanks for liking my comment but what is the product you are using?
@@BlacklistBill I likened it up above, AZLA SednaEarfit Crystal Standard 2
These are the best sounding earbuds hands down
Awesome video, what are the ear tips you are using?
Would you do a Pi6 vs Pi8 review? I don’t think the distributor will have the Pi6 in Taiwan(but i could get them from amazon), so i wont be able to try them out and compare them with the Pi8. I really care about the audio, but haven’t found a good pair of wireless earbuds that satisfy me. I’ve been a Bose headphones/speakers user for over a decade. Their in-ear cable ones are great especially with the noise cancelling feature. And i also own a QC 30, it has served me well especially when travelling by plane. I’ve tried the Ultra in store, but the left earbud would just gradually slips out of my ear, and didn’t satisfy with the audio quality. On the very same day i also tried out the Pi7 S2, I’m happy with the audio quality, but the controls….so I didn’t get them. I’m so glad they have these 2 updated versions this year.
The Pi6 took to long to come out, I’ve been using the new Bose quiet comfort gen 2 and they’re amazing. Go with those new Bose over the Pi6
@@Fredo.heavyyI’ll check them out, Thanks!
I’ve been checking out a lot of earbuds reviews on RUclips today, I think the Az80 will be on my check out list. And I’m looking forward to your Gemini review~
So good you had to make another video on them?!
This honestly should’ve been the only video but yea they’re good for me.
Thank you for going over these, I just picked mine up
Can you judge the sound quality difference in pi6 and pi8? After you (said in vid u) go for the pi6?
I’ve been told the Pi6 have less EQ options than the Pi8.
Honestly the Pi6 took too long to get to market and I’m happy with the Bose quiet Comfort gen 2 and don’t have a desire to test the Pi6.
That being said I still have the Pi8 they really are “reference” earbuds but not “bass bumping” edc buds
I might pick up Pi6 in 2025 if I get bored
@@Fredo.heavyy in terms of pure audio quality. Is pi8 the best you have tried? No features.
@@Monkeyindatrees The Pi8 delivery an all around best experience but I don't think general public will appreciate the "reference" sound.
Like a wagyu stake given to a toddler.
What are your thoughts on the PI6 vs PI7?
Pi6 > Pi7
The Pi7 are uncomfortable
Thanks for your honesty, Fredo💯
Is the ANC better than the Bose QC ultra?
Nothing tops the Bose Ultra.
I’m also traveling rn and went with the Quiet Comfort gen 2 as my choice, haven’t been disappointed
@@Fredo.heavyy Thanks for the feedback man!
I would like to know how it performs on running, do they have wingtips adjustable?
They’re great for run, no ear tips but they have a mini ridge that locks nicely into my ear.
I’ve put about 20-30 miles in these buds no problem and the aware mode handles ambient street noise well
How’s the bass on these?
The bass doesn’t blow me away, these really are reference earbuds so more “true” sound reproduction.
Using the Bose quiet comfort gen 2 and loving those as my daily driver
Bass so much deeper and smoother on the QC Ultra IEM.
@@Mr.D.Michaelqc ultra also sounds odd.
@@Hijynx87 I have the Dali io 12 and Mark Levinson 5909. I don't regard any IEM as Reference. That's just not the case. That's not what they are supposed to be. I've had the XM4 and XM5 and Pi8 IEM's. They each have their own sound profile. Bose is typical Bose (all of which I've had) ie, their profile doesn't deviate from the Original Soundlink, The Soundlink Mini 2, the Mini and Large Revolves; it's all typical Bose so you know what you are buying into. They are certainly not odd. They are Tuned for Bose. In terms of Noise Cancelling they are exceptional. They also are flawless in every respect - basically they are IEM Holy Grail.
@@Fredo.heavyy I found the Pi8 had a large but bloated soundstage but also very cumbersome.
i had these and i had horrendous connectivity issues with them... cutting in and out, both ear buds refusing to connect, one or the other refusing to connect randomly. they sounded great when they worked but that was for like 2 minutes. the app is also terrible. i ended up trying out the Devialet gemini 2s, they are better. give those a try
Need to make time to test the Gemini 2, what device do you use them with?
I heard some reports of people having connection issues with Pi8, this video is pretty old just took me awhile to upload.
So far my pair work great with only random issue if I’m somewhere over populated with BT signals etc.
@Fredo.heavyy I have a fold 6. Ya my pi8s never worked, had to return them
Had a chance to play around with a fold 6 and was pleasantly surprised by the construction, low key want to pick one up.
@@Fredo.heavyy ya I've had every fold except for the 5 cause it was the same as the 4. I still have the original that I use as a backup phone, they are amazing. I could never use a non folding device again. I really wish we could buy the mate XT but it sounds way too difficult to use not being able to use Google apps
Have these idk if they updated the software but mine didn't need an update when I got them. Haven't had any connection issues really and these things sound incredible for BT earbuds. Loudest and best sounding buds I've ever had and they aren't just loud they actually sound good when turned up. The app does kinda suck but it's not a deal breaker for me .
Give the master & dynamic 09 a try. They’re pretty good.
Lol! That's an interesting perspective. Psychologically it's reasonable to wonder if the price is worth the price gap between less expensive buds that offer exceptional sound quality. And then deciding between LDAC and APTX can leave you with a inconclusive mindset especially if you don't have the money to purchase both and decided based on listening experience.
I still prefer az80 and 3anc. I might return mine, but there is no denyimng the driver quality, there is a tactility to the sound.
Cool dude...i get through same issue when I take the earphones out too. However, yes I hate the battery life. I also hate how long it takes for the buds to actually recharge the earphones when you put them back in the case. Also Anc sucks for me. I hear so much more things vs others. At times the off mode works better than anc for certain sounds. The hear thru doesn't match bose or airpods. I also have delays in touch controls and the battery issues...( putting earbuds in for hours and pulling them out and the app tells me that they are still not 100%)
Also be careful with your assumption that the pi6 are just like the pi8 ....they aren't. They sound quality isn't the same at all. I also hear things about connection issues with them.
Hands down this the greatest sounding earphone on earth. But it sucks with every other feature most people need. And not worth $400
These or Denon Perl Pro bozo?
Haven’t tried the pearl so Pi8, Pearl are so bulky compared to sleek Pi8
They look bulky but honestly they are not heavy in the ears and look slim. They are on sale atm in Amazon
You haven't tested the gemini 2. Don't move too fast
You mean devialet is better
It is a bit @@mr.casanova7145
Hardware they are awesome, but the software has always been an issue with B&W
exactly. I had owned pi7 s2 i had got all these problems + more and B&W ,never ever release any patch to fix any single issuse.. so i never buy again premium level earbuds like this from elite audio company cuz their customer serrvice disaster i even rised the issue opened Ticket no reply lol. anyway thanks for video. in term of sound quality they are best but all other things worst
@@erkanvural3621In my opinion the more they cost the shitty they are 😂
Best sounding earbuds by a country mile.