Comments live again after my dinner date: this a statement from Breakthrough Listen... In December 2020, it was reported that in April and May 2019, a narrowband signal at 982.002 MHz was intercepted that showed shifts in its frequency consistent with the movement of a planet. No modulation was detected.[39] The signal appears to have originated from the direction of Proxima Centauri. It has been given the name Breakthrough Listen Candidate 1 (BLC1). As of December 2020, the researchers were still working to rule out terrestrial interference, which they considered the most likely cause. One researcher called it "on par" with the Wow! signal.
Anton Petrov said the BLC-1 signal was found not to be a techno signature in his 2022 video (SETI Signal From Proxima Centauri Detected Last Year Finally Explained)
Sooo.... Let's try and restrain the research field. You say Italy, I say Sardinia, maybe not far from some appel trees + S. The inductive thread of an "homme de la rue" - following latest announcements of international investments on the island for astronomical research + the inaf engagement with seti EU and the former biennal of architecture on multi-species ....
@@Nebx1989I agree, been watching for years and he's been getting worse for clickbait with a very abstract video.. mainly waffle.. that says absolutely nothing.
I've just subscribed Simon. Thank you for your excellent work. We need your plain and direct delivery of the facts to clarify the complex science...especially now! Please keep us all up to date on this matter.
Your a hero mate your doing the world an incredible service by informing us, extremely exciting hopefully in the next few years more and more will come to light 🎉🎉🎉
On the SETI website, in the summary regarding BLC1, they say 'Ultimately the team determined that the candidate signal appears to be interference from human technology/
@TwoTubesADV And if you read the paper he referenced in Nature Astronomy, it also says that the signal is interference from earth technology. As much as I'd like it to be true... Check out George Knapp's reporting. The aliens are already here.
The Nature abstract actually says: ""we find that blc1 is *not an extraterrestrial technosignature,* (my emphasis) but rather an electronically drifting intermodulation product of local, time-varying interferers..." Surely that means it's just a signal from earth's tech? Is that why no one is bothered? What's the Prof up to?
On 2019 April 29, the Breakthrough Listen SETI project observed Proxima Centauri with the Parkes ‘Murriyang’ radio telescope. These data contained a narrowband signal with characteristics broadly consistent with a techno signature near 982 MHz (‘blc1’) The signal appears to have originated from the direction of Proxima Centauri. It has been given the name Breakthrough Listen Candidate 1 (BLC1). As of December 2020, the researchers were still working to rule out terrestrial interference. One researcher called it "on par" with the Wow! signal.
@@ProfSimonHolland The arcticle still appears to conclude that its terrestrial interference and there is a further article publihsed in 2021 stating that the beacon was a false alarm
@@1962drwill Yep. "Using this procedure, we find that blc1 is not an extraterrestrial technosignature, but rather an electronically drifting intermodulation product of local, time-varying interfer- ers aligned with the observing cadence. We find dozens of instances of radio interference with similar morphologies to blc1 at frequencies harmonically related to common clock oscillators. These complex intermodulation products highlight the necessity for detailed follow-up of any signal of interest using a procedure such as the one outlined in this work." - Nature Astronomy | VOL 5 | NOVEMBER 2021 | 1153-1162." So the main point of the article is how important it is to ensure you exclude the possibility of earth-based interference, and showing us how they managed to eliminate this "signal" as just another false positive.
@@lucasventerPeople are saying this all over the comments and the prof is answering using the same cut & paste answer. It seems he hasn't read the paper to the extent he understands the conclusions and is just quoting it as a reference. Seems to be either a mix up about the paper or he's omitted to tell us something important.
I absolutely love that room your in. Wow your very creative! Its kinda amazing to see that people of your caliber still exist. Good job keeping your audience entertained. Ill be watching.
Hello from Florida, USA. Just found your channel and I’m super excited to watch your other videos. Thank you for your efforts professor, they are greatly appreciated. ❤
After doing some research it seems this is a massive red harring I'm afraid :/ From OCT. 26, 2021 article: "Mysterious ‘alien beacon’ was false alarm Radio signal seemed to originate from the star Proxima Centauri, and provided a helpful drill for future searches." “And so we had to fall back on the explanation that sometimes drifts can come from malfunctioning electronics or electronics that are heating and cooling,” Sheikh says. “So it became likely that the signal was stationary relative to this telescope, so somewhere on the surface of the Earth, and was something that was malfunctioning.” The malfunctioning equipment was likely within a few hundred kilometers of the telescope.
On 2019 April 29, the Breakthrough Listen SETI project observed Proxima Centauri with the Parkes ‘Murriyang’ radio telescope. These data contained a narrowband signal with characteristics broadly consistent with a techno signature near 982 MHz (‘blc1’) The signal appears to have originated from the direction of Proxima Centauri. It has been given the name Breakthrough Listen Candidate 1 (BLC1). As of December 2020, the researchers were still working to rule out terrestrial interference. One researcher called it "on par" with the Wow! signal. new telescopes are funded and are being built, to look for technological signatures
@@ProfSimonHollandBut the commenter's reference is from 2021 and thus more recent than yours of 2020. Would you mind elaborating why your 2020 update is still relevant?
But that article was 5 years ago and that BLC1 ( Break Through Listen Candidate 1 ) was found that it was some interference from human interactions. about 4 years ago . . Is there more about that or is this just old article re-visited ???
I am an Electrical Engineer in South Africa. The core of the Square Kilometer Array is near Carnavon in the Northern Cape Province of my country. Other telescopes forming part of the array are in other African countries, and others still are in Australia. I can speak with some authority because I know people who work at the SKA or used to work there. I was also part of an unsuccessful bid for providing electrical infrastructure to the expansion of the SKA. They are building it in stages. Now I'm thinking that there REAL purpose of the SKA is the detection of alien signals, not only providing answers to the questions about the origin of the universe!
So when people pointed out that the abstract of the paper clearly and directly contradicts what you've claimed in the video, your response is to pause comments, remove the link from the description, and reply to anyone who questions it with a copy-paste 'as of December 2020' answer when the paper is from October 2021? Classy. Were you just hoping nobody would actually bother to read the paper?
The strange thing about SETI@Home is that the Project is still there to be downloaded - but the servers are either shut off or it won't run on current Windows packages. We are getting screwed over with Redmond OS these days - more & more spyware, worse & worse programming.
You're blowing our minds here, Prof Simon. Thanks for sharing. What a time to be alive. This whole story reminds me of the sci-fi novel "The Sparrow", by Mary Doria Russell. This is a quote from its Wiki page: 'In the year 2019, the SETI program at Arecibo Observatory discovers radio broadcasts of music from the vicinity of Alpha Centauri.' In the book, what we think we're listening to, doesn't turn out to be the case. It's quite disturbing, in fact. Let's hope this story doesn't turn out to be the same...
It’s great to know, that all the units I crunched on the many PC’s and laptops actually counted towards something. By the time there is a global announcement, will general people really care? I suspect they will be so far away, there will be comfort in knowing we are genuinely not alone, but it will have very little impact in our lifetime.
" Using this procedure, we find that blc1 is not an extraterrestrial technosignature, but rather an electronically drifting intermodulation product of local, time-varying interferers aligned with the observing cadence. We find dozens of instances of radio interference with similar morphologies to blc1 at frequencies harmonically related to common clock oscillators."
Also from the abstract: “Analysis of BLC1-which we ultimately attribute to being an unusual but locally generated form of interference-is provided in a companion paper. “ I’d post a link but that’s against the rules…
Doesn't this other article just say that further analysis of the signal showed it is not a technosignature? I'm confused. Analysis of the Breakthrough Listen signal of interest blc1 with a technosignature verification framework
On 2019 April 29, the Breakthrough Listen SETI project observed Proxima Centauri with the Parkes ‘Murriyang’ radio telescope. These data contained a narrowband signal with characteristics broadly consistent with a techno signature near 982 MHz (‘blc1’) The signal appears to have originated from the direction of Proxima Centauri. It has been given the name Breakthrough Listen Candidate 1 (BLC1). As of December 2020, the researchers were still working to rule out terrestrial interference. One researcher called it "on par" with the Wow! signal.
But they didn't find it again right? "As of December 2020, follow-up observations had failed to detect the signal again, a step necessary to confirm that the signal was a technosignature" Or did your contact claim otherwise?
This needs to be on every world news program and on the front of every web site, etc. It's absolutely despicable that they have been lying to humanity for this long🤦♂️
@@MrAdammace Proxima century is the next closest star to us after our own Sun and is only 4.3 light years away but still a colossal distance of 25,300,000,000,000 miles away.
Thoroughly enjoyed this video and excited to see how this story progresses. Question is if we are now listening in and no where it is how long have the messages taken to get to earth
Based on the kind of signals emanating from planet earth, it is safe to conclude the following: Their is about a .01 percent chance that the signal contains data and information about them, and a 99.99 percent chance that it's alien porn.
unfortunately radio astronomy on the detail to resolve a single star requires a very large dish - out of our price range. Producing a virtual antenna from an array of smaller ones also takes timing and location precision that we can't afford.
Thanks Prof S. I don't think we need to start rolling out the red carpet for our alien overlords just yet. Definitely worth some research money though.
Im confused about the point that the offset from the star means it's orbiting. Even if it was the nearest star, an angle of 12 degrees would mean the transmission source was 0,9 light years away from the star,...some orbit!? What am I missing?
Do we all refer to the 'I love Lucy' show when speaking about space signals? I related your revelation to my wife earlier using just that reference. I guess being a boomer...🤣
So i went back a bit and saw the first videos you posted about this some months ago. If this is the same topic, there you said that at least part of the signal was resolved and maybe even decoded. Is this still accurate?
I was always loved the thought that some radio jockey alien is out there somewhere decked out in black lizard leather collecting, then pumping out Ozzy Osborne, the animals & the like....
That was highly convincing. Has this event or discovery been covered by New Scientist magazine? I have no idea about Nature magazine or it's standing within the science community. Because the signal was not in any way modulated, does this indicate a natural source rather than some type of Alien intelligence?
On 2019 April 29, the Breakthrough Listen SETI project observed Proxima Centauri with the Parkes ‘Murriyang’ radio telescope. These data contained a narrowband signal with characteristics broadly consistent with a techno signature near 982 MHz (‘blc1’) The signal appears to have originated from the direction of Proxima Centauri. It has been given the name Breakthrough Listen Candidate 1 (BLC1). As of December 2020, the researchers were still working to rule out terrestrial interference. One researcher called it "on par" with the Wow! signal.
The aim of the search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI) is to find technologically capable life beyond Earth through their technosignatures. On 2019 April 29, the Breakthrough Listen SETI project observed Proxima Centauri with the Parkes ‘Murriyang’ radio telescope. These data contained a narrowband signal with characteristics broadly consistent with a technosignature near 982 MHz (‘blc1’)
On 2019 April 29, the Breakthrough Listen SETI project observed Proxima Centauri with the Parkes ‘Murriyang’ radio telescope. These data contained a narrowband signal with characteristics broadly consistent with a techno signature near 982 MHz (‘blc1’) The signal appears to have originated from the direction of Proxima Centauri. It has been given the name Breakthrough Listen Candidate 1 (BLC1). As of December 2020, the researchers were still working to rule out terrestrial interference. One researcher called it "on par" with the Wow! signal.
I can't recall the title, but some years ago there was a movie where aliens visited, but to 'fit in' they mimicked the Honeymooners, and I Love Lucy, characters. Right down to the clothing. It was hilarious. (It's even better than "Earth Girls Are Easy".)
I used to email Dan Tapster a bit regarding Mythbusters. Very inclusive type of show, Mythbusters. High marks!! So, as Adam Savage's British dad, are you going to test myths too?
Serious question - how do we equate ‘very good reasons’ re search for a signal (and the cost involved with this) with serious and credible people who say we are already in contact with ‘ET’ and have been for decades.
Does it ever make you wonder why its not easy contacting aliens? Everything we have ever tried is based on our understanding of intelligence and technology. I'm thinking its more different than we can imagine . We are having so much fun trying to figure it all out. Not to mention how expensive its getting to be to research.
The international community of astronomers, have the same pressures of stigma applying to them as the France, as an ESA member, has an office devoted to UFOs. France has always been very open about UFOs, and have remained very curious in their investigations.
I assume there are a number of conclusions that we can derive from the signal itself. Such as what part of bandwidth is the signal, what is the strength of the signal, along with the characteristics of the signal. All of it could provide information on how they compare to our level of technology and what their signal characteristics suggest as to their civilization. Is there signal similar to our military tech signals, and other similar or dissimilar characteristics.
@@ProfSimonHollandHey Simon, your linked paper's description says: "Using this procedure, we find that blc1 is *not an extraterrestrial technosignature*, but rather an electronically drifting intermodulation product of local, *time-varying interferers* aligned with the observing cadence. We find *dozens of instances of radio interference with similar morphologies* to blc1 at frequencies harmonically related to common clock oscillators. These complex intermodulation products highlight the necessity for detailed follow-up of any signal of interest using a procedure such as the one outlined in this work." How do you square their stated conclusion that this is electronic noise with the assertion that this is an alien technosignature?
The aim of the search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI) is to find technologically capable life beyond Earth through their technosignatures. On 2019 April 29, the Breakthrough Listen SETI project observed Proxima Centauri with the Parkes ‘Murriyang’ radio telescope. These data contained a narrowband signal with characteristics broadly consistent with a technosignature near 982 MHz (‘blc1’)
@@RyneLanders in the words of Mandy Rice-Davies "Well he would say that wouldn't he". Nothing like throwing a spanner in the works just to put off any amateurs i.e. who stumble across this paper and start blabbing. Although as the Prof is suggesting those in the know are taking this signal seriously but they are being told not to talk about it. Notice the Prof only made his announcement after the project got the go ahead to avoid anything being cancelled. So if this is all a nothing burger why is the horizon project going ahead?
@@sharonjuniorchess Simon's data source has been open and reviewed since 2021. What he provided is proof of a methodology, but unless this own source is lying (which, at that point, why point to a source that is contradicting you?) then the scientists are saying they don't believe it's a technosignature. If you don't believe the authors of the data he cited as proof, what is your standard of proof then? You don't have one. You will never be satisfied with any standard.
On 2019 April 29, the Breakthrough Listen SETI project observed Proxima Centauri with the Parkes ‘Murriyang’ radio telescope. These data contained a narrowband signal with characteristics broadly consistent with a techno signature near 982 MHz (‘blc1’) The signal appears to have originated from the direction of Proxima Centauri. It has been given the name Breakthrough Listen Candidate 1 (BLC1). As of December 2020, the researchers were still working to rule out terrestrial interference. One researcher called it "on par" with the Wow! signal.
I’m not sure how you’re interpreting the article that clearly states that this IS NOT an alien technology signature. I mean it’s even in the abstract. This paper is establishing protocols for detecting actual signal. This was proven to NOT be a signal. Just curious.
No wonder the signal was strong enough to be pulled from the data, they are right on our doorstep! About 4.5 light years away. No wonder they kept it quiet. If we can 'hear' them, perhaps they can 'hear' us? We could converse, albeit one decade per Q&A session.
Love the channel love the work U do dude . I'm a kid of the school it's best not to shout but watch quietly and learn . And in this universe of the unknown do we really want to be screaming out in to the dark as loud as we do ... And what if by doing so ...we attract the attention of an advanced race of other worlders ... And they turn out not to be the nice kind ... And they would have missed us if we where not so shouting style in to the void . The massive madness that's can not even be fathomed by a human of the universe is so massive it's arrogant for Us to think.we are the only ones here ... Now ...we maybe a little late to the party and missed some stuff but it's to massive for.us to be the only ones left .. maybe in my kids life time we may find Intelligent life and it's not malevolent I hope .
How closely or not does the BLC1 signal correspond to the so called "WOW" signal. Is it close or not at all? If it is close or even dead on, I think that would be enormous in that we probably discovered this back in 1977.
Everybody's celebrating finding aliens, and I'm like, "bro, if you see sails on the horizon, you better hope that they're not Vikings or colonizers." Everybody assumes almost religiously that an advanced civilization is going to be some enlightened people. All history tells us advanced = conquer. Better get us interplanetary before somebody arrives.
I asked this on yr last post however now I think you've answered my question. So this is separate from the Aliens they're already talking to via quantum tunneling right?
What are the chances that a confirmed technosignature is discovered in the nearest solar system to our own? I want to believe this but i remain sceptical.
@@ProfSimonHolland someone read the article you linked to, and the results were it was not an alien signal... Im somewhat confused not reading it myself... are you saying that is a cover story and you have more insider information? how many light years away is the signal? do you even know? here is the result of that article as reported by @Idleness76 13 minutes ago in another post... The abstract of the linked article says that their analysis shows it was local interference, not a technosignature... Or am I mistaken, from the abstract: Here we present a procedure for the analysis of potential technosignatures, in the context of the ubiquity of human-generated radio interference, which we apply to blc1. Using this procedure, we find that blc1 is not an extraterrestrial technosignature, but rather an electronically drifting intermodulation product of local, time-varying interferers aligned with the observing cadence. We find dozens of instances of radio interference with similar morphologies to blc1 at frequencies harmonically related to common clock oscillators. Will you please clarify? thx
The aim of the search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI) is to find technologically capable life beyond Earth through their technosignatures. On 2019 April 29, the Breakthrough Listen SETI project observed Proxima Centauri with the Parkes ‘Murriyang’ radio telescope. These data contained a narrowband signal with characteristics broadly consistent with a technosignature near 982 MHz (‘blc1’)
The problem is that we are speaking about proxima centauri b. It's so close to it's star that its year is only 11.2 earth days long. Proxima centauri is a red dwarf flare star, so b gets wiped out with radiation every other day, not to mention we don't even know if it had managed to retain any atmosphere. And it could be tidally locked. In short, it could be, if really, life always finds a way. Let's keep an open head about this. But it is very unlikely. Really, in this case, more research is needed.
On 2019 April 29, the Breakthrough Listen SETI project observed Proxima Centauri with the Parkes ‘Murriyang’ radio telescope. These data contained a narrowband signal with characteristics broadly consistent with a techno signature near 982 MHz (‘blc1’) The signal appears to have originated from the direction of Proxima Centauri. It has been given the name Breakthrough Listen Candidate 1 (BLC1). As of December 2020, the researchers were still working to rule out terrestrial interference. One researcher called it "on par" with the Wow! signal.
@@ProfSimonHolland maybe as of Dec 2020 they were still working to rule out terrestrial interference but by October 2021 (the article you showed) they state “we find that blc1 is not an extraterrestrial technosignature”…
So is the planet called proxima Centauri or is that a region where the planet is? You have said we know which planet it is so can you please name the planet and if not why not?
Not sure why you say there is a signal when the peer reviewed paper itself says right at the beginning that the signal is not extraterrestrial and is due to local interference.
The aim of the search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI) is to find technologically capable life beyond Earth through their technosignatures. On 2019 April 29, the Breakthrough Listen SETI project observed Proxima Centauri with the Parkes ‘Murriyang’ radio telescope. These data contained a narrowband signal with characteristics broadly consistent with a technosignature near 982 MHz (‘blc1’)
I have had a thought, perhaps the disclosure of the fact that mankind's biggest question has been answered, could be very beneficial if done through a channel on youtube! It would filter out gradually and be much less of an impact to the general public? Once the idea is out there through the grapevine, a more formal high level announcement would be easier make! 🤔
mate, there are still major problems with BLC1. if it comes from Proxima Centauri (the closest star system to us), and it has a technological civilization, what are the odds that we've found NHI in the nearest proximity to us yet still cant see anything anywhere, not a sign for thousands and millions of LYs? Besides, it is more likely the planets in Proxima Centauri goldilocks zone are all tidally locked.
@@Mong00se22 Earth's nearest star and an orbiting planet identified as the nearest for possibly supporting life.🤔 That is some coincidence that a creature evolved like ourselves at that point in the universe. "Assuming" that this is from a communication signal and not natural. That would mean that human development on Earth and this planet almost certainly are linked either through the creators of the signals themselves or some intermediary. At 4.24 light-years away though, humans certainly won't be travelling there anytime soon, unless taken by a UFO.😲
Comments live again after my dinner date:
this a statement from Breakthrough Listen... In December 2020, it was reported that in April and May 2019, a narrowband signal at 982.002 MHz was intercepted that showed shifts in its frequency consistent with the movement of a planet. No modulation was detected.[39] The signal appears to have originated from the direction of Proxima Centauri. It has been given the name Breakthrough Listen Candidate 1 (BLC1). As of December 2020, the researchers were still working to rule out terrestrial interference, which they considered the most likely cause. One researcher called it "on par" with the Wow! signal.
And no link in the description when telling viewers link in the description.
Anton Petrov said the BLC-1 signal was found not to be a techno signature in his 2022 video (SETI Signal From Proxima Centauri Detected Last Year
Finally Explained)
@@BrokenCircuitRanch Google search nature astronomy 5, 1153
Sooo.... Let's try and restrain the research field. You say Italy, I say Sardinia, maybe not far from some appel trees + S. The inductive thread of an "homme de la rue" - following latest announcements of international investments on the island for astronomical research + the inaf engagement with seti EU and the former biennal of architecture on multi-species ....
Let's hope it's not the san ti
Professor Simon is an example of what is right about RUclips.
@@Nebx1989I agree, been watching for years and he's been getting worse for clickbait with a very abstract video.. mainly waffle.. that says absolutely nothing.
100%
@@Nebx1989No, not that part or those examples.
Absolutely agreed
Agreed.
Drinking my coffee and listening to Prof. Simon is wonderful for the mind and well-being
Me too!
I've just subscribed Simon. Thank you for your excellent work. We need your plain and direct delivery of the facts to clarify the complex science...especially now! Please keep us all up to date on this matter.
Your a hero mate your doing the world an incredible service by informing us, extremely exciting hopefully in the next few years more and more will come to light 🎉🎉🎉
On the SETI website, in the summary regarding BLC1, they say 'Ultimately the team determined that the candidate signal appears to be interference from human technology/
They are just economical with the truth.
@TwoTubesADV And if you read the paper he referenced in Nature Astronomy, it also says that the signal is interference from earth technology. As much as I'd like it to be true... Check out George Knapp's reporting. The aliens are already here.
The peer reviewed paper itself says right at the beginning that the signal is not extraterrestrial rather is local interference.
The tested shirt is just too funny we've all been talking haha.
my joke
The Nature abstract actually says: ""we find that blc1 is *not an extraterrestrial technosignature,* (my emphasis) but rather an electronically drifting intermodulation product of local, time-varying interferers..." Surely that means it's just a signal from earth's tech?
Is that why no one is bothered? What's the Prof up to?
On 2019 April 29, the Breakthrough Listen SETI project observed Proxima Centauri with the Parkes ‘Murriyang’ radio telescope. These data contained a narrowband signal with characteristics broadly consistent with a techno signature near 982 MHz (‘blc1’)
The signal appears to have originated from the direction of Proxima Centauri. It has been given the name Breakthrough Listen Candidate 1 (BLC1). As of December 2020, the researchers were still working to rule out terrestrial interference. One researcher called it "on par" with the Wow! signal.
@@ProfSimonHollandbut you said we know which planet,ok thanks for telling us the 🌟 system,why are you refusing to tell us the planet?
@@ProfSimonHolland The arcticle still appears to conclude that its terrestrial interference and there is a further article publihsed in 2021 stating that the beacon was a false alarm
@@1962drwill Yep. "Using this procedure, we find that blc1 is not an extraterrestrial technosignature, but rather an electronically drifting intermodulation product of local, time-varying interfer- ers aligned with the observing cadence. We find dozens of instances of radio interference with similar morphologies to blc1 at frequencies harmonically related to common clock oscillators. These complex intermodulation products highlight the necessity for detailed follow-up of any signal of interest using a procedure such as the one outlined in this work." - Nature Astronomy | VOL 5 | NOVEMBER 2021 | 1153-1162." So the main point of the article is how important it is to ensure you exclude the possibility of earth-based interference, and showing us how they managed to eliminate this "signal" as just another false positive.
@@lucasventerPeople are saying this all over the comments and the prof is answering using the same cut & paste answer. It seems he hasn't read the paper to the extent he understands the conclusions and is just quoting it as a reference. Seems to be either a mix up about the paper or he's omitted to tell us something important.
Great video Professor can't wait for more.
I absolutely love that room your in. Wow your very creative! Its kinda amazing to see that people of your caliber still exist. Good job keeping your audience entertained. Ill be watching.
Hello from Florida, USA. Just found your channel and I’m super excited to watch your other videos. Thank you for your efforts professor, they are greatly appreciated. ❤
After doing some research it seems this is a massive red harring I'm afraid :/
From OCT. 26, 2021 article: "Mysterious ‘alien beacon’ was false alarm
Radio signal seemed to originate from the star Proxima Centauri, and provided a helpful drill for future searches."
“And so we had to fall back on the explanation that sometimes drifts can come from malfunctioning electronics or electronics that are heating and cooling,” Sheikh says. “So it became likely that the signal was stationary relative to this telescope, so somewhere on the surface of the Earth, and was something that was malfunctioning.”
The malfunctioning equipment was likely within a few hundred kilometers of the telescope.
On 2019 April 29, the Breakthrough Listen SETI project observed Proxima Centauri with the Parkes ‘Murriyang’ radio telescope. These data contained a narrowband signal with characteristics broadly consistent with a techno signature near 982 MHz (‘blc1’)
The signal appears to have originated from the direction of Proxima Centauri. It has been given the name Breakthrough Listen Candidate 1 (BLC1). As of December 2020, the researchers were still working to rule out terrestrial interference. One researcher called it "on par" with the Wow! signal. new telescopes are funded and are being built, to look for technological signatures
@@ProfSimonHolland that's not answering the question. What do you think of the report? Or is it not true?
@@ProfSimonHollandBut the commenter's reference is from 2021 and thus more recent than yours of 2020. Would you mind elaborating why your 2020 update is still relevant?
@@makasuuu just seems like that explanation was ruled out in the first report, they took into account interference?
But that article was 5 years ago and that BLC1 ( Break Through Listen Candidate 1 ) was found that it was some interference from human interactions. about 4 years ago . . Is there more about that or is this just old article re-visited ???
Thank you for the breathtaking update Prof Simon
My pleasure!
I am an Electrical Engineer in South Africa. The core of the Square Kilometer Array is near Carnavon in the Northern Cape Province of my country. Other telescopes forming part of the array are in other African countries, and others still are in Australia. I can speak with some authority because I know people who work at the SKA or used to work there. I was also part of an unsuccessful bid for providing electrical infrastructure to the expansion of the SKA. They are building it in stages.
Now I'm thinking that there REAL purpose of the SKA is the detection of alien signals, not only providing answers to the questions about the origin of the universe!
Fella you have got to sort out Load Shedding first ...and no 10 rand in the meter when it goes off..🤣🤣🤣
Surely, the equipment can multitask?
So when people pointed out that the abstract of the paper clearly and directly contradicts what you've claimed in the video, your response is to pause comments, remove the link from the description, and reply to anyone who questions it with a copy-paste 'as of December 2020' answer when the paper is from October 2021? Classy. Were you just hoping nobody would actually bother to read the paper?
Fascinating Simon, thanks for getting this out, ill report it on my show too.
thanks Gary....stand by for my head of Breakthrough Listen interview
Oh SETI@Home, brings me back memories... Maybe it was my computer that detected it 😆
The strange thing about SETI@Home is that the Project is still there to be downloaded - but the servers are either shut off or it won't run on current Windows packages. We are getting screwed over with Redmond OS these days - more & more spyware, worse & worse programming.
Cheers!
Great news because this world is struggling.
I would rather do UFOs.
You're blowing our minds here, Prof Simon. Thanks for sharing.
What a time to be alive.
This whole story reminds me of the sci-fi novel "The Sparrow", by Mary Doria Russell. This is a quote from its Wiki page: 'In the year 2019, the SETI program at Arecibo Observatory discovers radio broadcasts of music from the vicinity of Alpha Centauri.'
In the book, what we think we're listening to, doesn't turn out to be the case. It's quite disturbing, in fact.
Let's hope this story doesn't turn out to be the same...
Thank you for the book recommendation! 🙏
"I's got a techno signature for ya'!"
*Begins to boogie on down*
2:16 The Aliens are going to be concerned because Lucy's got some "splaning" to do!!
It’s great to know, that all the units I crunched on the many PC’s and laptops actually counted towards something.
By the time there is a global announcement, will general people really care?
I suspect they will be so far away, there will be comfort in knowing we are genuinely not alone, but it will have very little impact in our lifetime.
Nice one Prof. Keep at them.
" Using this procedure, we find that blc1 is not an extraterrestrial technosignature, but rather an electronically drifting intermodulation product of local, time-varying interferers aligned with the observing cadence. We find dozens of instances of radio interference with similar morphologies to blc1 at frequencies harmonically related to common clock oscillators."
@@jannealatalo in plain English please?
No we don't.
@@jannealatalo I am confused by this also. The Abstract directly contradicts the message in this video, what am I missing?
So it's not Little Green Men after all?
Also from the abstract:
“Analysis of BLC1-which we ultimately attribute to being an unusual but locally generated form of interference-is provided in a companion paper. “
I’d post a link but that’s against the rules…
I love this show ❤! Great approach - awsome.
Thanks so much!
Absolutely Fascinating! Thank You Simon for opening our “Electronic Eyes” to this important astronomical data. 😮
Absolutely!
You are on a roll professor keep on trucking 😊
Doesn't this other article just say that further analysis of the signal showed it is not a technosignature? I'm confused. Analysis of the Breakthrough Listen signal of interest blc1 with a technosignature verification framework
On 2019 April 29, the Breakthrough Listen SETI project observed Proxima Centauri with the Parkes ‘Murriyang’ radio telescope. These data contained a narrowband signal with characteristics broadly consistent with a techno signature near 982 MHz (‘blc1’)
The signal appears to have originated from the direction of Proxima Centauri. It has been given the name Breakthrough Listen Candidate 1 (BLC1). As of December 2020, the researchers were still working to rule out terrestrial interference. One researcher called it "on par" with the Wow! signal.
But they didn't find it again right? "As of December 2020, follow-up observations had failed to detect the signal again, a step necessary to confirm that the signal was a technosignature" Or did your contact claim otherwise?
This needs to be on every world news program and on the front of every web site, etc.
It's absolutely despicable that they have been lying to humanity for this long🤦♂️
Welcome to the world, this doesn't fit into the mainstream narrative. Have patience, my fellow world citizen.
But if you read the science paper, it's clearly not alien signal at all. I've read the paper.
@@simon3745 What is the explanation for it?
@simon3745 - Yeah, in a nutshell, what would you say is your explanation for why the prof is so wrong about it?
@@cabforwardooo9983 “an electronically drifting intermodulation product of local, time-varying interferers aligned with the observing cadence” apparently 🤷🏽♀️
Excellent Prof, why is such a thing not mentioned in the Press? I wonder how many light years away the signal is?
@@MrAdammace Proxima century is the next closest star to us after our own Sun and is only 4.3 light years away but still a colossal distance of 25,300,000,000,000 miles away.
4.3?
Thoroughly enjoyed this video and excited to see how this story progresses. Question is if we are now listening in and no where it is how long have the messages taken to get to earth
Just found this channel. Just what I’ve been looking for 😊
hey Dan
Based on the kind of signals emanating from planet earth, it is safe to conclude the following: Their is about a .01 percent chance that the signal contains data and information about them, and a 99.99 percent chance that it's alien porn.
😂
I think we should be building our own grassroots antenna network
go on then
@@TheWorkmonkey1 Lets do it, you gonna help or just be negitive?
@@monkeyjshow u can use closed networks...but each person needs to have the right hand set.........search online......similar to dolphin.....but not
unfortunately radio astronomy on the detail to resolve a single star requires a very large dish - out of our price range. Producing a virtual antenna from an array of smaller ones also takes timing and location precision that we can't afford.
Bro they might come eat you 😮
Thank you so much! You are wonderful at explaining the research. ❤
Thanks Prof S. I don't think we need to start rolling out the red carpet for our alien overlords just yet. Definitely worth some research money though.
Can we get a long format history of plasma physics with interviews from robert temple and bob grenyer ?
good idea
From the same article: "Although we attribute blc1 to RFI, the benefits from its unique analysis will inform searches for years to come"
Genuine Question. Are we going to hear what they were doing 1000s of years ago, or will it be more recent?. Thanks. Great channel.
depends on how many light years away it is... 10 light years away... the signal was produced 10 years ago..etc..
Brilliant Simon. Just brilliant. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Thank you very much for your work!
Im confused about the point that the offset from the star means it's orbiting. Even if it was the nearest star, an angle of 12 degrees would mean the transmission source was 0,9 light years away from the star,...some orbit!? What am I missing?
Do we all refer to the 'I love Lucy' show when speaking about space signals?
I related your revelation to my wife earlier using just that reference. I guess being a boomer...🤣
In other words, we are looking, but we haven’t actually found an actual signal.
No. watch again.
Awesome " Scotish" let's get Anti-Gravity to the people! Dean( Soul) Toronto
So i went back a bit and saw the first videos you posted about this some months ago. If this is the same topic, there you said that at least part of the signal was resolved and maybe even decoded. Is this still accurate?
they have modulation...but working on decoding ...i heard
@@ProfSimonHolland Where is the signal coming from? What star system?
From what i've read, BLC1 is from Proxima Centauri.
I was always loved the thought that some radio jockey alien is out there somewhere decked out in black lizard leather
collecting, then pumping out Ozzy Osborne, the animals & the like....
Proxima Sent Terry
ITES > Proxima 📡... 🌎
'Yes we have heard you and are talking now back to your listening devices'
SETI < > ITES
This is great stuff - thank you!!! (New subscriber here.)
Awesome, thank you!
That was highly convincing. Has this event or discovery been covered by New Scientist magazine?
I have no idea about Nature magazine or it's standing within the science community.
Because the signal was not in any way modulated, does this indicate a natural source rather than
some type of Alien intelligence?
On 2019 April 29, the Breakthrough Listen SETI project observed Proxima Centauri with the Parkes ‘Murriyang’ radio telescope. These data contained a narrowband signal with characteristics broadly consistent with a techno signature near 982 MHz (‘blc1’)
The signal appears to have originated from the direction of Proxima Centauri. It has been given the name Breakthrough Listen Candidate 1 (BLC1). As of December 2020, the researchers were still working to rule out terrestrial interference. One researcher called it "on par" with the Wow! signal.
Closest system we can actually send a cube sat to? Sounds like the sci fi I like.
So where is the signal coming from? You said that they know, but you never said where?
The aim of the search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI) is to find technologically capable life beyond Earth through their technosignatures. On 2019 April 29, the Breakthrough Listen SETI project observed Proxima Centauri with the Parkes ‘Murriyang’ radio telescope. These data contained a narrowband signal with characteristics broadly consistent with a technosignature near 982 MHz (‘blc1’)
Subsequent research found that the BLC1 signal has most likely terrestrial origin.
On 2019 April 29, the Breakthrough Listen SETI project observed Proxima Centauri with the Parkes ‘Murriyang’ radio telescope. These data contained a narrowband signal with characteristics broadly consistent with a techno signature near 982 MHz (‘blc1’)
The signal appears to have originated from the direction of Proxima Centauri. It has been given the name Breakthrough Listen Candidate 1 (BLC1). As of December 2020, the researchers were still working to rule out terrestrial interference. One researcher called it "on par" with the Wow! signal.
Thank you Simon!
For an interesting read just download the 7 page Roswell report document that can be found here on RUclips Simon.
Some species is just getting Mr ED the talking horse, it's going to confuse the F out of some aliens :)
Wait until they get Star Trek tos. They'll think we could easily go visit them.
I can't recall the title, but some years ago there was a movie where aliens visited, but to 'fit in' they mimicked the Honeymooners, and I Love Lucy, characters. Right down to the clothing. It was hilarious. (It's even better than "Earth Girls Are Easy".)
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂❤
😅😂😅
@@alankeeling2946, Proxima Centauri is only ~4.25 light years away, they’d be getting 2020 March Madness about now.
I used to email Dan Tapster a bit regarding Mythbusters.
Very inclusive type of show, Mythbusters. High marks!!
So, as Adam Savage's British dad, are you going to test myths too?
definitely
@@ProfSimonHolland fair warning... watch the eyebrows.
The next Doctor Who
very cool idea..
Serious question - how do we equate ‘very good reasons’ re search for a signal (and the cost involved with this) with serious and credible people who say we are already in contact with ‘ET’ and have been for decades.
Does it ever make you wonder why its not easy contacting aliens? Everything we have ever tried is based on our understanding of intelligence and technology. I'm thinking its more different than we can imagine . We are having so much fun trying to figure it all out. Not to mention how expensive its getting to be to research.
@@anthonytaylor8672 They are here already. Wake up.
@@EMAGA I liked it better when I was asleep. I'm hearing that the UAP itself is the alien not a being as expected? Now go back to bed lol!
I love that basement
The international community of astronomers, have the same pressures of stigma applying to them as the France, as an ESA member, has an office devoted to UFOs. France has always been very open about UFOs, and have remained very curious in their investigations.
yes....France has been open about its ufo sightings and publish sightings.
Love the hair!!
need a haircut
I assume there are a number of conclusions that we can derive from the signal itself. Such as what part of bandwidth is the signal, what is the strength of the signal, along with the characteristics of the signal. All of it could provide information on how they compare to our level of technology and what their signal characteristics suggest as to their civilization. Is there signal similar to our military tech signals, and other similar or dissimilar characteristics.
@simon is it possible to get access to this data? I work in machine learning and would like to take a look,
yes....the data in open source....link to the study at the bottom of the nature report in my film description....let me know how you get on.
@@ProfSimonHollandHey Simon, your linked paper's description says:
"Using this procedure, we find that blc1 is *not an extraterrestrial technosignature*, but rather an electronically drifting intermodulation product of local, *time-varying interferers* aligned with the observing cadence. We find *dozens of instances of radio interference with similar morphologies* to blc1 at frequencies harmonically related to common clock oscillators. These complex intermodulation products highlight the necessity for detailed follow-up of any signal of interest using a procedure such as the one outlined in this work."
How do you square their stated conclusion that this is electronic noise with the assertion that this is an alien technosignature?
The aim of the search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI) is to find technologically capable life beyond Earth through their technosignatures. On 2019 April 29, the Breakthrough Listen SETI project observed Proxima Centauri with the Parkes ‘Murriyang’ radio telescope. These data contained a narrowband signal with characteristics broadly consistent with a technosignature near 982 MHz (‘blc1’)
@@RyneLanders in the words of Mandy Rice-Davies "Well he would say that wouldn't he". Nothing like throwing a spanner in the works just to put off any amateurs i.e. who stumble across this paper and start blabbing. Although as the Prof is suggesting those in the know are taking this signal seriously but they are being told not to talk about it. Notice the Prof only made his announcement after the project got the go ahead to avoid anything being cancelled. So if this is all a nothing burger why is the horizon project going ahead?
@@sharonjuniorchess Simon's data source has been open and reviewed since 2021. What he provided is proof of a methodology, but unless this own source is lying (which, at that point, why point to a source that is contradicting you?) then the scientists are saying they don't believe it's a technosignature. If you don't believe the authors of the data he cited as proof, what is your standard of proof then? You don't have one. You will never be satisfied with any standard.
What’s the name of the star, planet….and galactic position? Great channel Prof Simon!
On 2019 April 29, the Breakthrough Listen SETI project observed Proxima Centauri with the Parkes ‘Murriyang’ radio telescope. These data contained a narrowband signal with characteristics broadly consistent with a techno signature near 982 MHz (‘blc1’)
The signal appears to have originated from the direction of Proxima Centauri. It has been given the name Breakthrough Listen Candidate 1 (BLC1). As of December 2020, the researchers were still working to rule out terrestrial interference. One researcher called it "on par" with the Wow! signal.
I’m not sure how you’re interpreting the article that clearly states that this IS NOT an alien technology signature. I mean it’s even in the abstract. This paper is establishing protocols for detecting actual signal. This was proven to NOT be a signal. Just curious.
wait and see...l the truth will come out...follow the funding
No wonder the signal was strong enough to be pulled from the data, they are right on our doorstep! About 4.5 light years away. No wonder they kept it quiet.
If we can 'hear' them, perhaps they can 'hear' us? We could converse, albeit one decade per Q&A session.
Love the channel love the work U do dude . I'm a kid of the school it's best not to shout but watch quietly and learn . And in this universe of the unknown do we really want to be screaming out in to the dark as loud as we do ...
And what if by doing so ...we attract the attention of an advanced race of other worlders ...
And they turn out not to be the nice kind ... And they would have missed us if we where not so shouting style in to the void .
The massive madness that's can not even be fathomed by a human of the universe is so massive it's arrogant for Us to think.we are the only ones here ... Now ...we maybe a little late to the party and missed some stuff but it's to massive for.us to be the only ones left .. maybe in my kids life time we may find Intelligent life and it's not malevolent I hope .
hi Fireflash keep being interested in science and UFOs
Evidence not of just life, but of life advanced enough to produce energetic technology? Like we do? This is going to change EVERYTHING.
So much like ‘we do’ that the article claims it’s not extraterrestrial it’s us!
How closely or not does the BLC1 signal correspond to the so called "WOW" signal. Is it close or not at all? If it is close or even dead on, I think that would be enormous in that we probably discovered this back in 1977.
Everybody's celebrating finding aliens, and I'm like, "bro, if you see sails on the horizon, you better hope that they're not Vikings or colonizers."
Everybody assumes almost religiously that an advanced civilization is going to be some enlightened people. All history tells us advanced = conquer. Better get us interplanetary before somebody arrives.
I think we've already been conquered
@turdfurg1517 maybe 🤔
I asked this on yr last post however now I think you've answered my question. So this is separate from the Aliens they're already talking to via quantum tunneling right?
What are the chances that a confirmed technosignature is discovered in the nearest solar system to our own? I want to believe this but i remain sceptical.
good me too...but i hear its out there
@@ProfSimonHolland someone read the article you linked to, and the results were it was not an alien signal... Im somewhat confused not reading it myself... are you saying that is a cover story and you have more insider information? how many light years away is the signal? do you even know? here is the result of that article as reported by @Idleness76 13 minutes ago in another post...
The abstract of the linked article says that their analysis shows it was local interference, not a technosignature... Or am I mistaken, from the abstract:
Here we present a procedure for the analysis of potential technosignatures, in the context of the ubiquity of human-generated radio interference, which we apply to blc1. Using this procedure, we find that blc1 is not an extraterrestrial technosignature, but rather an electronically drifting intermodulation product of local, time-varying interferers aligned with the observing cadence. We find dozens of instances of radio interference with similar morphologies to blc1 at frequencies harmonically related to common clock oscillators.
Will you please clarify? thx
The aim of the search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI) is to find technologically capable life beyond Earth through their technosignatures. On 2019 April 29, the Breakthrough Listen SETI project observed Proxima Centauri with the Parkes ‘Murriyang’ radio telescope. These data contained a narrowband signal with characteristics broadly consistent with a technosignature near 982 MHz (‘blc1’)
It’s probably just humans who are part of the secret space program.
@@ProfSimonHolland keep in mind that this is the same Observatory that announced a candidate signal that turned out to be the onsite canteen microwave
The problem is that we are speaking about proxima centauri b. It's so close to it's star that its year is only 11.2 earth days long. Proxima centauri is a red dwarf flare star, so b gets wiped out with radiation every other day, not to mention we don't even know if it had managed to retain any atmosphere. And it could be tidally locked. In short, it could be, if really, life always finds a way. Let's keep an open head about this. But it is very unlikely. Really, in this case, more research is needed.
The paper in nature say clearly that the signal is local, is just electronic interference. No extraterrestrial technosignature.
On 2019 April 29, the Breakthrough Listen SETI project observed Proxima Centauri with the Parkes ‘Murriyang’ radio telescope. These data contained a narrowband signal with characteristics broadly consistent with a techno signature near 982 MHz (‘blc1’)
The signal appears to have originated from the direction of Proxima Centauri. It has been given the name Breakthrough Listen Candidate 1 (BLC1). As of December 2020, the researchers were still working to rule out terrestrial interference. One researcher called it "on par" with the Wow! signal.
@@ProfSimonHolland maybe as of Dec 2020 they were still working to rule out terrestrial interference but by October 2021 (the article you showed) they state “we find that blc1 is not an extraterrestrial technosignature”…
Profesor, your video contradicts the paper that you show, is just local interference. This is misleading viewers.
@@Apolopy2 at the very least it’s confusing and contradictory. @ProfSimonHolland can you make another video to explain?
er no, aliens NOT getting touch LOL
The techno signature would have to be many thousands of years old though right?
How long until we get an alien podcast, radio show/tv show or picture deciphered? 🤔
Show us your Delorean📣👍
1million subs for prof Simon.
I second that
I heard summit bout a device in Antarctica is actually a massive Telescope...........
Actually an "alien" base in the bottom of the Ocean could be even better.
So is the planet called proxima Centauri or is that a region where the planet is? You have said we know which planet it is so can you please name the planet and if not why not?
Does this correlate at all with the signature of dimethyl sulphide on K2-18b?
Not sure why you say there is a signal when the peer reviewed paper itself says right at the beginning that the signal is not extraterrestrial and is due to local interference.
the signal is still of interest. its not dismissed as interference anymore
Hearing a clicking sound or voice from space … Some more details would be nice .
Is this signal related to the previouse video where you said that someone in italy said they had found visual data?
How far from Earth is the source of the signal? And from what location in the sky?
The aim of the search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI) is to find technologically capable life beyond Earth through their technosignatures. On 2019 April 29, the Breakthrough Listen SETI project observed Proxima Centauri with the Parkes ‘Murriyang’ radio telescope. These data contained a narrowband signal with characteristics broadly consistent with a technosignature near 982 MHz (‘blc1’)
@@ProfSimonHolland Wow, thanks for clarifying!!!
Signal? 😁
I’ve seen them in my front garden. ❤
Radio waves come on a wave length and the information comes from a wave on that wave. Build a crystal set. So that’s what is happening with SETI.?..
I have had a thought, perhaps the disclosure of the fact that mankind's biggest question has been answered, could be very beneficial if done through a channel on youtube! It would filter out gradually and be much less of an impact to the general public?
Once the idea is out there through the grapevine, a more formal high level announcement would be easier make! 🤔
Told ya a long time ago Professor. hehe
mate, there are still major problems with BLC1. if it comes from Proxima Centauri (the closest star system to us), and it has a technological civilization, what are the odds that we've found NHI in the nearest proximity to us yet still cant see anything anywhere, not a sign for thousands and millions of LYs? Besides, it is more likely the planets in Proxima Centauri goldilocks zone are all tidally locked.
it would be great to see deeper into our galaxy. the sensitivity of the survey is about to get better.
SO WHERE IS THE LOCATION of this signal??????????? How close????????
Ok but where? What planet is this? Where in the sky can I look towards?
Thanks!
thank you so much
Life all throughout the universe is just common sense to me. Dont care what anyone else thinks
Tell us where!!!!!!
That's a region of space tho or is that the planet?
@@Jon-tsuki-geri it’s only a 2 hour drive👍
@@erwinvangrinsven9345 I've been there. They are nudists (and what has been seen cannot be unseen!).
@@Mong00se22 Earth's nearest star and an orbiting planet identified as the nearest for possibly supporting life.🤔 That is some coincidence that a creature evolved like ourselves at that point in the universe. "Assuming" that this is from a communication signal and not natural. That would mean that human development on Earth and this planet almost certainly are linked either through the creators of the signals themselves or some intermediary. At 4.24 light-years away though, humans certainly won't be travelling there anytime soon, unless taken by a UFO.😲