The 2024 Audi Q7 55 TFSI Is Pleasant & Stolid 3-Row Luxury Family SUV

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  • Опубликовано: 14 дек 2024

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  • @Thebuscommunityleader
    @Thebuscommunityleader 6 месяцев назад +11

    I'm a Audi fan for years now & I will buy this.

    • @brq44
      @brq44 6 месяцев назад +2

      You say basically this on every single video he makes lol

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME 6 месяцев назад +1

      You still haven’t bought that Saturn yet. You are falling behind.

    • @dirkpalmer1067
      @dirkpalmer1067 5 месяцев назад +1

      We did, but we got the Premium Plus 55.
      Love it with new black optic pkg and you can get just about every option most want in a Prestige.

  • @joshharrison1160
    @joshharrison1160 6 месяцев назад +50

    Two comments for you to consider: 1. most you tube reviewers (like you) are against piano black but consumers actually like it based on my anecdotal evidence. 2. bigger screen size isn't necessarily better. it's getting a little out of hand. some of us don't want an Escalade screen. Love your reviews!

    • @DamnManSam
      @DamnManSam 6 месяцев назад +22

      It is all fun and games with Piano Black, until you drive the car 20,000+ miles with kids constantly in the car and you have to clean said piano black.

    • @jr1885
      @jr1885 6 месяцев назад +14

      Piano black sucks. As soon as you clean it, and then open the door, it’s back dusty. Also Audi’s MMI setup loves fingerprints. Some touchscreens don’t show fingerprints as much, but these systems do. The older MMI systems (and interior) were so much better.

    • @snacking5908
      @snacking5908 6 месяцев назад +10

      Disagree with the piano Black part. But definitely don’t see a huge screen as a bonus

    • @TheBreakfastLover
      @TheBreakfastLover 6 месяцев назад +16

      Anecdotally and statistically, piano black sucks big time. It collects dust, fingerprints and scratches/swirls easily if you clean it.

    • @singh5004
      @singh5004 6 месяцев назад +12

      100 %Agree with screen size , not with piano black !

  • @dirkpalmer1067
    @dirkpalmer1067 5 месяцев назад +1

    One reason we got the Q7 was for the somewhat unique size.
    3rd row for kids or in a pinch, but executve level comfort in a slightly smaller suv (for lg suvs).

  • @jrussianintel
    @jrussianintel 6 месяцев назад +10

    They need to add an RSQ7. It would do well like the X5M

    • @KHD1982
      @KHD1982 6 месяцев назад +4

      SQ7 is enough

    • @jakes5530
      @jakes5530 6 месяцев назад +2

      RSQ8… (both are 2 row, Q7 is 3 row)

    • @jrussianintel
      @jrussianintel 6 месяцев назад

      @@jakes5530 no shit. Just stating my opinion.

    • @e_yiizy
      @e_yiizy 4 месяца назад +1

      I don't think they can. Same thing with an "RSQ5". Heard it's something to do with Porsche already having the Macan and Cayenne (in certain trims), and some agreement the brands have with each other to not "step on each other's toes".

  • @JRB41
    @JRB41 6 месяцев назад +12

    Honestly, get an X5 or X7 - this car is not only getting extremely outdated (MMI especially) but is also having many many problems with the drivetrain (48V mild hybrid system) which requires an expensive fix, no matter the milage.. not to mention that these cars come standard with a 4 CYLINDER for the same price as the X5 which has the B58.

    • @RonsmooveTI
      @RonsmooveTI 6 месяцев назад +1

      The X5 is and X7 is new gen the Q5 and Q7 not new gen right now in 2025 they will possibly be ahead of X5 and X7. Audi been slow updating their lineup.

    • @JRB41
      @JRB41 6 месяцев назад +1

      @Jazc-mp889 BMW has significantly higher reliability than Audi as of late.. used to be the other way around

    • @JRB41
      @JRB41 6 месяцев назад +1

      @Jazc-mp889 Glad you find it funny but it’s the truth. Audi’s have had numerous drivetrain issues as of late.. BMW with its B58 engine are pretty much rock solid

    • @JRB41
      @JRB41 6 месяцев назад

      @Jazc-mp889 Fair enough. Have a good day

    • @ronaldlamascus1944
      @ronaldlamascus1944 4 месяца назад

      Hmm? Really? Haven’t had any problems with my ‘21 Q7 Prestige.

  • @RonsmooveTI
    @RonsmooveTI 6 месяцев назад +7

    2026 Q7 will be next gen with new interior, tech and design Q6 inspire the car got minor refreshed for 2025 to stay competitive and bridge the cap before next generation

  • @naveenthemachine
    @naveenthemachine 6 месяцев назад +7

    It may look dated but it’s aged well since it already does a lot of things well.

    • @RonsmooveTI
      @RonsmooveTI 6 месяцев назад +1

      The 2026 is next generation Q7

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME 6 месяцев назад

      Wearing a white Titleist cap helps too.

  • @aristhecargayandavgeek
    @aristhecargayandavgeek 6 месяцев назад +14

    Hi Sofyan, it's your friendly local Audi sales gay here. The 2025 Q7s are on the ground NOW. However, the V6 is still under supply constraints. Hope this helps!

    • @JulezWinnfield
      @JulezWinnfield 6 месяцев назад +5

      Sales "gay"? Not that there's anything wrong with that

    • @mhassouneh
      @mhassouneh 6 месяцев назад +2


      Check his username.. Not a typo 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @mhassouneh
      @mhassouneh 6 месяцев назад +2


      Seinfeld reference for the wing ❤

    • @aristhecargayandavgeek
      @aristhecargayandavgeek 6 месяцев назад

      @@mhassouneh I'm also friends with Sofyan personally, so it was a bit of an insider reference 🙂

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME 6 месяцев назад

      VW took all the 6’s ?

  • @nathanwright8616
    @nathanwright8616 6 месяцев назад +3

    premium gas is required or recommended? you said “recommended” but i’ve heard both.

    • @DamnManSam
      @DamnManSam 6 месяцев назад +3

      If it’s a Turbo, premium gas.

    • @michellet7930
      @michellet7930 6 месяцев назад +3

      It actually says on gas cap door that at least 91 octane required.

    • @zedzedski7382
      @zedzedski7382 6 месяцев назад +2

      91 minimum recommended. So, yes, required as minimum.

  • @dirkpalmer1067
    @dirkpalmer1067 5 месяцев назад

    Was road also wet when mdx ran .2 faster? If not, that's important even with awd.

  • @Vandantcyclone
    @Vandantcyclone Месяц назад

    7.7k lbs towing!! That’s awesome! Can tow a boat, or two jet skis, side by sides; golf carts; whatever!

  • @midengineZ06
    @midengineZ06 6 месяцев назад +1

    Where does the 55 come from????????????

    • @dougr5809
      @dougr5809 6 месяцев назад +2

      Just naming… 45 is the 4cyl so they went “55” for the 6cyl

  • @planetarizona9865
    @planetarizona9865 5 месяцев назад

    I have this same vehicle in white with a black out package. My only complaint is the small center console storage. Also the 3rd row is small and if used the rear storage space is small. We usually just keep the 3rd row down. With the 3rd row down the rear storage space is adequate. Overall I love this vehicle. I also have a new Tiguan Rline and having both of them, compliments each other. The Audi Q7 and is very comfortable for a long road trip, the Tiguan feels just as nice, it obviously has less power but it’s just as adequate for long trip and feels more nimble on long trips.

  • @ronaldlamascus1944
    @ronaldlamascus1944 4 месяца назад +1

    We love our ‘21 Q7 Prestige! And while this design is older, it’s still very classy and looks great in person. It’s just perfect for two retired executives who love Audi’s and want a good all round vehicle for everyday use. Plenty roomy, good performance and handling, comfortable, stylish, great heated (and cooled) massage seats, adequate cargo space, excellent sound system and manageable technology. We have not had a single problem with this vehicle of any kind. When Audi strikes a winning design, they stick with it and I don’t feel like I am driving an obsolete vehicle a year later. I looked at and test drove the competition before we bought and the Q7 was a far better vehicle overall.

  • @tyresepalmer4732
    @tyresepalmer4732 6 месяцев назад +3

    Love all the content.. keep it coming!!!

  • @xxxpensive1415
    @xxxpensive1415 6 месяцев назад +10

    You always forgetting to mention the heated side mirrors for cars

    • @williamegler8771
      @williamegler8771 6 месяцев назад +2

      Because they have been standard equipment on a majority of vehicles for years.

    • @xxxpensive1415
      @xxxpensive1415 6 месяцев назад

      B. S you think car companies will waste their time to put that in a gay car like yours

  • @LobbanVlogs
    @LobbanVlogs 6 месяцев назад

    I would have liked to see you adjust the air suspension to its highest and lowest position.

  • @kreizorvip2289
    @kreizorvip2289 6 месяцев назад +4

    Still one of the best in the segment! FAR BETTER THAN it's RIVALS

  • @2012Edger
    @2012Edger 6 месяцев назад +7

    I doubt they sell more than 20,000 units here in the states. 4000 so far (all trims). I just don’t see the value for what you’re paying. I’m sure it drives nice but that’s not enough. 3rd row is very tight. Go for it. Just not for me.

    • @Carfan678
      @Carfan678 6 месяцев назад +5

      I see a ton of them 🤷

    • @RonsmooveTI
      @RonsmooveTI 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@Carfan678 It sold almost 30,000 in 2023

    • @RonsmooveTI
      @RonsmooveTI 6 месяцев назад +1

      In the USA atleast

    • @wazgoodjj
      @wazgoodjj 6 месяцев назад

      Acura MDX, BMW X5, Mazda Cx-9, Lincoln Aviator etc... so many good choices

    • @wazgoodjj
      @wazgoodjj 6 месяцев назад +1

      Acura MDX, BMW X5, Mazda Cx-9, Lincoln Aviator etc... so many good choices

  • @BocaAtractivo82
    @BocaAtractivo82 Месяц назад

    I used to want a SQ7, well not anymore the financial upkeep to maintain and major repairs are too expensive compared to a single turbo. A regular 2018 Q7 w/o HUD and air ride plus a stage 1 91 OR 93 octane tune and upgraded intercoolers is more than enough. Any 4M Q7 with the touchscreen controls fair better in reliability than the newer to present models. The only good thing so far I've seen from the 2025 model year, are actual visibile exhaust ports/tips

  • @mattspeer01
    @mattspeer01 6 месяцев назад +1

    This vehicle is a straight-up dinosaur. Wasn’t even competitive 8 years ago when it first launched. The mild refreshes haven’t fixed it.

    • @RonsmooveTI
      @RonsmooveTI 6 месяцев назад

      It was competitive back then especially industry first car in segment to have fully digital virtual cockpit, predictive efficiency, traffic jam assist, all wheel steering system, exit warning, turn assist was ahead of competitor. Audi was first do digital thing and some advanced safety feature but competitor caught up later especially 2019-2024 model year throughout model range. Audi hasn’t really innovated past 5 years but they have new models 2025-2028 they get ahead right now playing catch up give them time.

    • @RonsmooveTI
      @RonsmooveTI 6 месяцев назад

      The new Q7 is 2026 model year

  • @markb3866
    @markb3866 6 месяцев назад +7

    All these 2020 and up 48v Q7s , all have alternator issues. Research before purchase. People get stuck randomly , no matter what milage.

    • @rachegreenrg
      @rachegreenrg 6 месяцев назад +3

      $3000 or more fix.

    • @macjoseph2375
      @macjoseph2375 6 месяцев назад

      That's surprising, especially for a new car.

    • @tonytony2753
      @tonytony2753 6 месяцев назад

      @suspicionofdeceitit is covered under warranty, mine was atleast.

    • @rachegreenrg
      @rachegreenrg 6 месяцев назад

      @suspicionofdeceit after 36 month of warranty you are doomed .

  • @esaireyna899
    @esaireyna899 6 месяцев назад +1

    As you mentioned earlier of the powertrains the 2.0L is too freakin small for the size of the Q7 it’s gonna be lame despite being turbocharged but the 3.0L Turbo V6+ 48 volt mild hybrid is good and if you want more muscle then the SQ7 with the TT V8 is just as good

  • @dougr5809
    @dougr5809 6 месяцев назад +8

    Very nice, but the wife made me buy the Palisade Calligraphy (same options and luxury features but saved $25k)

    • @tame5358
      @tame5358 4 месяца назад +2

      The try hard Audi. Good luck.

    • @dougr5809
      @dougr5809 4 месяца назад

      @@tame5358 10yr warranty and 3 yrs free service… wife’s argument was strong

  • @OriginalCovfefe
    @OriginalCovfefe 6 месяцев назад

    I love my Audi, and Audi in general, but the maintenance costs are ridiculous

  • @josephlau8476
    @josephlau8476 6 месяцев назад +3

    This is a very nice car.

  • @hamidmghazi
    @hamidmghazi 6 месяцев назад +5

    7:53 30/30/30 ! What happened to the remaining 10? 😂

  • @craigroosa9321
    @craigroosa9321 6 месяцев назад +1

    Audi does one of the best interiors ,,,not a fan of the new huge tablet style center screens , don't get it . They stick out and do not flow ,, look out of place.. Very elegant interior , great materials .

    • @RonsmooveTI
      @RonsmooveTI 6 месяцев назад

      The new 2026 Q7 interior is long continuous curve screen 11.9 inch display for virtual cockpit and 14 inch MMI screen similar to Q6

  • @Zen-877
    @Zen-877 4 месяца назад +1

    Looks good. Why so many haters don't get it

  • @ahmedxkhan
    @ahmedxkhan 6 месяцев назад +1

    I honestly dont know what you have against maserati? They have the grecale, ghibli, granturismo that have all bern updated and are competing in this market yet you dont review them? Why?

    • @chibbyylol
      @chibbyylol 6 месяцев назад +2

      Think he only reviews what he can get and they haven’t sent anything

  • @namliuzza7896
    @namliuzza7896 6 месяцев назад +4

    Boring car but great review.

  • @Mr_Nobody0007
    @Mr_Nobody0007 6 месяцев назад

    audi need to start making full size SUV.
    ASAP

  • @baoanprounited
    @baoanprounited 6 месяцев назад

    Rumor has it Audi is developing a Q9, which will rivals the BMW X7 and Mercedes GLS. Cant wait for that, Audi fit my personality of a younger, more youthful compared to the x7 and gls

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME 6 месяцев назад

      You should get rid of your Velcro sneakers and cell phone holster. Those really ruin your image.

  • @deztroyer76
    @deztroyer76 6 месяцев назад +1

    *Solid

  • @Unknownevanuser
    @Unknownevanuser 6 месяцев назад +2

    Next gen is due in 2026 finally.

  • @OPC249
    @OPC249 6 месяцев назад +1

    The fact that the acura rdx (a compact crossover) has the same max cargo as this vehicle just shows how inefficient the packaging is

    • @RonsmooveTI
      @RonsmooveTI 6 месяцев назад

      The current Q7 is 9 year old now went on sale in mid 2015 in Europe and 2016 for global debut got facelift for 2020 model year and another one for 2025 mostly exterior and minor interior. The Q7 will be new gen for 2026 model all new.

    • @OPC249
      @OPC249 6 месяцев назад

      @RonsmooveTI that still doesn't change the fact that a compact vehicle has as much interior space as a giant boat

    • @RonsmooveTI
      @RonsmooveTI 6 месяцев назад

      @@OPC249 Audi have new model call Q9 it will have more space than Q7. The Q7 will grow little bit longer for next gen so have more room.

  • @jesusalbertobeltranosorio1963
    @jesusalbertobeltranosorio1963 6 месяцев назад +3

    Hermosos ♥️

  • @faisalarafat9127
    @faisalarafat9127 6 месяцев назад +2

    Good one

  • @MCJ-jt7hq
    @MCJ-jt7hq 6 месяцев назад

    The Audi Q9 will be the full-size suv, so no the Q7 will not increase significantly in size.

  • @shawnharris7747
    @shawnharris7747 6 месяцев назад +3

    Super outdated when they gonna refresh it

    • @jr1885
      @jr1885 6 месяцев назад +4

      They just did for 2025. New grille, exposed exhaust, new headlights, new wheels, and slightly different taillights. Is it still dated? Yes.

    • @tame5358
      @tame5358 4 месяца назад

      Go for the Lamborghini Urus.

  • @x7wolverines7x
    @x7wolverines7x 6 месяцев назад +3

    Supercharged v6 hasn’t been around since like 2018 lol

  • @cameronmcintosh2049
    @cameronmcintosh2049 6 месяцев назад

    The 2025 refresh appears disappointing. The prior Q7 refresh really seemed like a “lipstick on a pig” back then, so I don’t know why they would not take this chance to fix it. A ground up redesign could put it within the territory of the X7 and GLS.

    • @RonsmooveTI
      @RonsmooveTI 6 месяцев назад

      The Q7 is not next generation till 2026 model year which is 12-14 months away got delayed by one year but the 2025 minor refresh was to bridge the gap before next gen and stay competitive for year.

  • @Atl404sFinest
    @Atl404sFinest 6 месяцев назад

    It’s okay… I’m wanting Audi to get a bit more innovative the next go round. I own an A4 and while I can see the design language being evolutionary, it’s been a bit stale when comparing it to BMW.

    • @RonsmooveTI
      @RonsmooveTI 6 месяцев назад

      They have new head of designer in the future be more innovative still have Audi dna

  • @billydanzz
    @billydanzz 6 месяцев назад

    I'm starting to believe that the large grille trend all along has been the lazy equivalent of automotive design. The larger the grille, the less styling design ideas needed to complete the front of the vehicle. Same with every manufacturer slapping "piano black" trim in everything.

  • @ganzonomy
    @ganzonomy 6 месяцев назад +3

    Audi
    Another
    Underbuilt
    Deutschland
    Import

  • @Desertbiker617
    @Desertbiker617 6 месяцев назад +9

    That looks so outdated.

    • @ernestjackson460
      @ernestjackson460 6 месяцев назад +6

      That price is very updated though lol😂😂😂

    • @naveenthemachine
      @naveenthemachine 6 месяцев назад +3

      Nah it doesn’t look dated
      Ive seen far more dated vehicles in this class

    • @RonsmooveTI
      @RonsmooveTI 6 месяцев назад +1

      2026 is next generation 12-14 months from release

    • @futurepaver2039
      @futurepaver2039 3 месяца назад

      Wait until you see the Dacia Duster

  • @shahj8
    @shahj8 6 месяцев назад

    Dude wants every imaginable option available to review he does this for all of the cars he reviews who is going to get that? I get it he is doing it to show what is available but the average car buyer might not get all the options

  • @duder0597
    @duder0597 6 месяцев назад

    Mdx>

  • @SimonGonzalOS
    @SimonGonzalOS 6 месяцев назад +3

    Audis look so boring...the best looking luxury sedans were definitely the mercedes from 2016. Oh and the Lexus IS in the higher trims. Everything else now just got ugly or just okay

    • @RonsmooveTI
      @RonsmooveTI 6 месяцев назад +2

      Audi have new designer from Jaguar and Land Rover so I think design will look more interesting in coming years. Audi have nice interiors I think best fit and finish out of luxury cars it is impressive but not as flashy Mercedes though.

    • @SimonGonzalOS
      @SimonGonzalOS 6 месяцев назад

      @@RonsmooveTI Mercedes has the best interiors. Lexus and BMW are becoming tied for the worst. And I've always been a Lexus fanboy until they started making every car have a 14" touchscreen with no wood that just makes the interior lose warmth and a sense of presence. Which is extremely disappointing coming from the company that designed the LC500, LFA, & pre refresh LS500 interiors

    • @SimonGonzalOS
      @SimonGonzalOS 6 месяцев назад

      @@RonsmooveTI Audi's just tend to be bland now. Fit and finish seems good but at least they aren't super ugly like BMW. But if I had luxury money I would want something that doesn't look outdated and bland. Subtlety is nice which is what I'm sure they are going for but why not something like the R8 incorporated into their main design. Something more futuristic or with the times

    • @RonsmooveTI
      @RonsmooveTI 6 месяцев назад

      @@SimonGonzalOS I am sure Massimo Frascella the new Audi designer will make designs interesting in coming years. I don’t want no Range Rover or Jaguar reliability Audi improve a lot in that department and technology hope they continue with the Audi dna and pride.

  • @chrisbianchi8876
    @chrisbianchi8876 6 месяцев назад +1

    Did a 5 year old write your title?

  • @JarmelSingsKaraoke
    @JarmelSingsKaraoke 6 месяцев назад +1

    🔥🔥

  • @Spiderfang-pu2zr
    @Spiderfang-pu2zr 6 месяцев назад

    Audi has the most plain Jane unattractive 7 row SUV among the other luxury brands

  • @dustinm8800
    @dustinm8800 5 месяцев назад

    Yours needs a redesign

    • @RonsmooveTI
      @RonsmooveTI 4 месяца назад +1

      2026 Q7 is next gen coming next summer

  • @davidd1692
    @davidd1692 6 месяцев назад +2

    So outdated, interior is too VW like,

    • @timsautovision6145
      @timsautovision6145 6 месяцев назад +2

      ??? You are insane

    • @craigroosa9321
      @craigroosa9321 6 месяцев назад +3

      Audi has one of the best interiors , way better than BMW and the Lexus bunch .

  • @wazgoodjj
    @wazgoodjj 6 месяцев назад

    This cost more than a fully loaded Chevy Tahoe. I guess if you want the Audi name, but I'll pass 😊

  • @lucasportinari4975
    @lucasportinari4975 6 месяцев назад

    It's outdated the interior this is not refreshed they had the same screen since for 8 years now

  • @kylebatzer353
    @kylebatzer353 6 месяцев назад

    Stolid review

  • @taylormarshall-qj9hw
    @taylormarshall-qj9hw 6 месяцев назад +2

    Big nope. Competition has better options that are updated.

    • @timsautovision6145
      @timsautovision6145 6 месяцев назад +1

      Wrong

    • @taylormarshall-qj9hw
      @taylormarshall-qj9hw 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@timsautovision6145 nope

    • @naveenthemachine
      @naveenthemachine 6 месяцев назад +1

      No it doesn’t. One particular rival is significantly worse in every way than the q7 despite being years newer

    • @RonsmooveTI
      @RonsmooveTI 6 месяцев назад +1

      2026 Q7 is next gen Q7

  • @viki6or
    @viki6or 6 месяцев назад

    They stole-id the q7

  • @Nooobcub
    @Nooobcub 6 месяцев назад

    Stolid review 👍🏼😅

  • @ScotsWhaHae
    @ScotsWhaHae 6 месяцев назад +1

    Ancient and boring!

    • @RonsmooveTI
      @RonsmooveTI 6 месяцев назад

      Yes, the Q7 been on sale since mid 2015 in Europe and mid 2016 for global debut as well 2020 model year got facelift the new Q7 is 12-14 months away as 2026 model.

  • @mahdimir
    @mahdimir 6 месяцев назад

    🙏

  • @kybruce1
    @kybruce1 6 месяцев назад

    Those wheels look so basic and dated. Reminds me of a Dodge Journey. Overall styling also looks old and boring

  • @jaylee9269
    @jaylee9269 6 месяцев назад

    3rd row, basically useless

  • @gregpaige4430
    @gregpaige4430 6 месяцев назад +1

    It does look outdated compared to BMW's and Mercedes and even Volvo 's.

    • @RonsmooveTI
      @RonsmooveTI 6 месяцев назад +1

      The Q7 is not new gen although had facelift for 2020 the car been on sale since end of 2015 or mid 2016

    • @tame5358
      @tame5358 4 месяца назад

      Stick to Volvo ahahaha

  • @dafightdoc8836
    @dafightdoc8836 6 месяцев назад

    No we don't like piano black. Nissan puts speckles in it. It only looks worse when it's dusty. My 2022 pathfinder is fading. I also use windshield blinds and have 3M window tint. A $400.00 job at Halstar. This is a miss with manufacturing. I would be very pleased for them to move on. The rest of the materials inside and out appear to be wearing well. Limited chrome helps. The soft materials are fine. The dash materials are a good quality and durable. I swapped the Toyo tires for continentals. That helped with the tracking. Not a bad attempt by Nissan. The 9 speed ZF needs a tune.

  • @albertog.5433
    @albertog.5433 6 месяцев назад

    Yawn,,,

  • @goodshepherd6042
    @goodshepherd6042 6 месяцев назад

    I would say: The ugly choice 🤣🤣

  • @rachegreenrg
    @rachegreenrg 6 месяцев назад +2

    Audi have lost its ways. Low quality materials, high price. Not even made in Germany.

  • @SirChocula
    @SirChocula 6 месяцев назад

    Holy, this is the most boring car I've seen in a really long time. Absolutely no soul to the design... zZzz