Been using the Ford branded version of this EVSE for a year now with my Mustang Mach-E (A Tesla Model 3 and a Chevy Bolt also use it too 😅). It lives outside when charging or inside my trunk. It's held up well to heavy rain, snow, hot and cold temps. The one thing I don't like is that water gets inside where you connect the adapter that you want to use. Its never stopped charging and it doesn't look like it caused any issues for the adapter but I don't like that it does that. Also in very warm tempatures it will reduce charging speed. Other than that I love it. The cable holds up well in the cold (well below freezing temps). Not too hard to handle since it doesn't weigh much and its a good length. Very happy that Ford gave us a dual voltage EVSE.
Definitely a solid unit (I have the Ford Mobile Power Cord version from my Lightning). We use this all the time at our cottage at the full 32A output. Also as a 120V at times. We have a permanent holster at our cottage next to our weather proof 14-50R. Very heavy use since July of 2022 with no issues. I like the auto switching for voltage (we use is with a 10-30 adapter at our condo in FL on a dryer plug). I've even charged Teslas with the Tesla adapter without issue.
I own 2021 VW I’d.4. Using a Mustart 40 amp evse it stops charging after about 25 minutes. The breaker doesn’t trip, but it stops charging. If I unplug it and plug it back and will restart charging, but for a shorter time. Question: what could be the problem?
Tom, great review! I have two comments: 1) This is the charger that comes with the Bolt EUV and is optional on the Bolt EV. Many people have had problems due to the plug adapter (the NEMA 14-50 or NEMA 5-15) not being inserted far enough. My guess is that this is the problem the Tesla owner had in that Amazon review. There will be lights on the unit, but it will error and won't charge. 2) The biggest problem I see with this unit is that it does not have adjustable amperage. The most common 240V outlet someone is going to have already available in or near their garage is a 30 amp dryer outlet. Since this unit pulls 32 amps, that is not possible, even with an adapter. It seems like they dropped the ball here. This should at least be able to be dropped down to 24 amps, and ideally to 16 amps as well (for 20 amp circuits). I worry that a number of people will get these and then get an adapter to plug into their dryer outlet. Bonus comment: If you use the 120V adapter, but plug into a 240V outlet (with yet another adapter), this unit will run at 12 amps 240V, or twice the charge rate of the 120V setting.
I own a ‘22 Bolt EUV and ‘23 Mach-E. Am I correct that the supplied EVSEs are mechanically identical, with the only differences being the case designs and cord length? Looks like Ford kept the stock case design from Webasto and slapped their logo on it, where Chevy has a custom case with (frustratingly) upside down screw mounting points for a ground-up outlet install.
I bought a used 2020 Chevy Bolt EV that didn't come with a portable charger. I bought one of these on FB marketplace for $100 new, from someone who got it with their Mercedes and didn't need it. Working like a charm!
It's a little expensive when it's sold under the Webasto brand, but if you buy it as a Ford, GM, or VW unit, it's usually a lot cheaper. I wish they'd sell other adapters for it: 6-20, 15-30, etc. That would make it better for travel and better for new EV owners who might have a receptacle that was installed for some other purpose.
They've developed them, they're just not released yet for some reason. They did release them for the charger they make for Cadillac/GM, but they only work with the GM charger...........
Tom - PLEASE ask Webasto when they are going to release their dongles ("Grid plugs") for other outlets already. Having the ability to plug into a TT-30 or 14R30 would make this charger really appealing. They've developed them, they're just not for sale yet.
The specifications, layout, and the diameter of the cord of this charger seem identical to the Chevy Dual Level Charge Cord. This costs about $50 more, but it also has a wall bracket, travel case, and rubber-armored case. Looks pretty competitive, but I think that they made a mistake with the submersion proof claim. Great channel, never knew about the Lectron holster, that looks very useful for this type of unit.
Good review as always. You should try and find a way to test for hot weather performance. Most of the issues I've heard of with these units seem to be related to overheating, I'm not sure if it's the unit itself overheating or if there is a thermal sensor in the plug that is causing the errors. If it was the later, it would be an indication of an issue with the outlet or plug and I would give a bunch of bonus points to EVSE that detect overheated plugs based on some of the failure photos I've seen.
Hey Tom - another great review. Thanks for doing these portable chargers! I, too, wish Tesla would come out with a TMC with J1772. You may have already noticed this, but you have a minor typo in your ChargerRater. In the Convenience & Portability section under Dual Voltage, you accidentally missed the T in "adapter." Not a big deal, but figured you'd want to get that updated for the next one. Thanks again and keep up the great work!
Little off-topic from the Webasto review, but State of Charge is the best place for conversations on anything EVSE. Being frugal, I hate to see EVSEs trashed due to a pinched communication cable or a damaged plug. This happens, or Tom wouldn't keep doing the drop test. I am more throwing out a request than a solution, but I would love to see a well-documented page for educating electricians on replacing the plug. I agree there is no substitute for a great company like Qmerit, but this resource is needed. Essential to recognize quality certified replacements, the difference between 32amp, 48 amp, and 80 amp plugs, and a proper crimp tool. An EVSE is probably the first continuous-use appliance in your home, so quality matters. Commercial Nema 14050 plugs matter if you don't hardwire. We need an internet resource page to keep people out of trouble. The plugs are going to be replaced. Maybe Qmerit would consider this? Maybe State of Charge?
It's pretty hard to get adaptor fittings like the ones on this unit to be truly watertight, so I think the big thing here is that it's good enough it should be fine in most rain and very importantly, when water does get into the connecter, it faults but does not get into the unit itself and short circuit. So after drying out the connector the unit survives just fine. While perhaps that means it's not accurate for it to have the rating it does, it is an important distinction that the unit's internals are sealed and it survives the connector getting wet.
Another excellent EVSE review - You continue to provide the most comprehensive information for charging equipment! Did the company respond when you told them about the failed submersion test? Since this is the same/similar unit to the OEM Ford EVSE, how did that fare in the submersion test? It would be nice to get to the bottom of the issue you found. For your rankings, I suggest adding points possible for additional adaptors. A portable EVSE is going to be used in a wider variety of scenarios, and the more plugs that you can use (14-50, 6-15, TT-30, etc) the better. Doing so would encourage makers of units that are capable of modular plugs to produce more options.
A Webasto Go Portable unit came with my Kia EV6 and I had a 240 Volt receptacle installed in the carport to use it. The first charging session ran perfectly. The second one did not. I had set the charging to begin at 10 pm but when I checked on it at 1030 no charge was flowing. Turns out that the 50 amp breaker that serves the unit had been tripped by a ground fault. After I reset the breaker an orange light appeared on the unit instead of the nominal blue light, but there was still no charge flowing. Within seconds a loud POP came from the unit and everything went dead. I had believed the claim that the Webasto is so water tight that it can operate under water but that is not the case. We had had a day-long windy rain the day before I started the 10 pm charging and during that period enough rain had seeped into the apparently water tight interface between the NEMA 14-50 adapter and the (wall mounted) charge unit to create a virtual pool of water around the four electrical contacts. The short circuit that produced the POP created a micro explosion of metal and rubber that rendered the charger worthless. Buyer beware.
Tom The GM mobile charger for the Lyric, which is also made by webasto, offers a tt-30 adapter to provide 240v 24a. Users on the Mach-e site tried it and it didn't work with the Mach-e charger. I don't believe it has been tried with the Lightning MC. Might be worth an attempt with this unbranded Webasto Go (and the Lightning) There is also a way to do 240v 12a with the Ford MC, but not sure if you want to get into that.
Hi Tom. I know that this review has been up for a while, but as a new Bolt owner, I just found it. As you know, Webasto provides the dual level charger for the Chevy Bolt EUV. While searching the internet, I found that the J1772 cable AC conductors in the Webasto charger are listed as AWG #10. Usually, that size cable is rated for 30 Amps, which is slightly less than the 32 Amps that the charger puts out. This probably explains why the cable is a bit warm to the touch while in operation. One thing I would look out for is placing this charger wire in the snow during the winter. It will probably melt its way through the snow. Worse yet, when the charger shuts off, the snow/ice may re-freeze over the cable. Someday I'll tell you the story of having to dig 4/0 welding cable out of the snow and ice with a pickaxe...
I have to power cycle mine (Ford version) every month or two. It just randomly goes into a fault state. It is mounted on the wall and plugged into a 14-50 and generally only gets weekly use. It does go back to blue after each off-on but I can't say that this inspires a lot of confidence that the unit is reliable. I also own one of the Shell Recharge units that you didn't like so I do have a back up. The Shell unit makes much more sense as a travel EVSE as it has full power level selections from 40A down to 12A so no matter what the circuit is rated, I can choose the correct amperage. I think you need to modify the scoring for Adjustable Power. Some units don't follow the 80% guideline for amps so you get weird power levels that could result in either charging the car slower or overloading the circuit. I think a unit that has 40,32,24,15,12 amp selections deserves extra points. I've charged on both 20 and 30 amp circuits using 15 and 24 amps respectively. The seller insists that the Shell unit is now UL listed but I've not been able to verify their claim. Glad to see you are going to be evaluating more mobile EVSEs. This will be a huge benefit. Looking forward to watching them all. Thanks for being my "go to" expert.
I have webasto charger at home, works every time with my Tesla and Jeep 4XE. A few times the Tesla has reported a charge port error-check connection. Even with this occasional error the charge will start at the scheduled time. My thoughts for the benchmark for a 32 amp charger should be $330 like the Tesla portable charger.
Tom, I see where you're coming from in terms of disappointment that the unit faulted when submerged. But I think the argument could be made that it operated as advertised and intended. Hear me out. Water ingress into the unit likely didn't occur, instead it only entered the removable electrical connection which caused it to temporarily fault. Functionally it stopped working, but no damage was done. Most modern smart phones can be submerged, but I don't think people expect them to work underwater. We recognize that touch screens, microphones, and speakers will fail to function correctly when submerged. The expectation is once dried, they will start working again. Just as this EVSE did. Also, submersion is a pretty demanding condition for an EVSE that is essentially a smart extension cord. Personally, I would appreciate the unit opening its contactor to isolate as much as possible if it was submerged. Ideally traditional extension cords would do that if their connector were say submerged in a puddle.
That's why I only deducted 1 point for it failing the test. With an IP67 rating, it should work in 3-ft of water for 30 minutes, like the J Booster + did in its test: ruclips.net/video/QX_oyj_bsbc/видео.html
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney The scoring approach seems more than fair. But I'm not convinced that our expectation should be that this EVSE continues to work when submerged given the IP rating. The J Booster + did, fantastic, but that shouldn't suggest any other EVSEs with the same IP rating will behave the same. I scanned through IEC 60529 to refresh my memory, and there is no mention of the electrical device continuing to work or function under these conditions. Instead, they say: "The second characteristic numeral indicates the degree of protection provided by enclosures with respect to harmful effects on the equipment due to the ingress of water". As far as we know, no "harmful effects" (damage) was done here. Also, I think the argument could be made the impacted connector was not within the enclosure. Just like it's Nema connector isn't. Ingress protection isn't my area of expertise, and I don't have a horse in this race. But in my line of work, it's very important to document product requirements to avoid differing expectations during the validation stage. Much like you're doing here.
@@-Enginerd the problem with your logic, is it's not an "assumption".... the company is "explicitly" stating, that it can perform in that manner.... the test results are contrary to what they are directly telling potential customers.... I don't see a way, that the test results can be rationalized, to coincide with what the company is directly and succinctly telling potential customers? But if you do, so be it....
@@nc3826 I have to disagree that the FAQ response from the manufacturer is explicitly stating their product will continue to function when submerged. Perhaps the individual writing that response was picturing the unit was unpowered at the time. They were thinking, yeah, the IP67 rating will absolutely protect the internals allowing it to function afterwards. As it did. Whereas you and others are picturing it is powered up. General statements leave so much room for interpretation. That's why Engineering standards are so lengthy and boring to read. Laws are the same way.
@@-Enginerd "function when submerged", so how can it be, "unpowered at the time"??? i'm scared you're going to try to sell me a perpetual motion machine, based on that logic.... (So you're trying to say, "is" doesn't' mean is. (Where is Bill Clinton when we need him?) None of this matters, but the illogical aspect of it was so amusing, I had to mention....And if you want to pretend that there is no incongruity, that's fine... It's not worth debating.... Since as expected you misleadingly attempted to change the context and narrative of my retort.... i purposely avoided referencing standards or any form of legality.... This is not about suing the company.... "it's about being completely honest, with customers, period" (Since most of us, want the word "is" to mean is, when we ask a simple question to a company .... and if a misrepresentation is made we want the company to be honest about it... and clarify It in a concise manner) So thank you for proving my point.... And have a nice day rationalizing, my litigious oriented friend...
I use the charger ford provided with F150 Lightning. I use it regularly and have been very pleased with its performance. I also have the 80 amp Ford pro which I use with my wife’s Hyundai Ioniq 5. In the Lightning I cannot see any truly measurable difference between those 2 chargers, however, in the Ioniq, the Pro does a much better job than the 32 amp model. Nice to see this one rated.
Looks like a solid charger, but a little disappointed with the $500 price tag. IMO, the Tesla mobile charger for $230 + $99 Tesla-to-J1772 adapter is a better value. I like the Lectron mount, too, for J1772 plugs only. I also prefer the horizontal holster mount to the wall, though with Tesla controlling 50% of the market, there is a good chance you would like a versatile holster or two. Meaning one holster outfitted with Tesla-to-J1772 adapter. We have two EVs, one being a Tesla. I always keep a Tesla J1772-to-Tesla adapter in the Tesla and prefer to leave an adapter on one of the EVSEs at all times. An important note in evaluating EVSE holsters like the very clever $399 Emporia smart EVSE capable of charging on excess solar. Excellent charger for $399, and killer for $479 with Vue2 solar kit. At first glance, the Emporia holster stinks facing up until you realize it is quite handy if you leave a J1772-to-Tesla adapter on your plug if mounted in a garage. Still, the Webasto looks excellent. How about $400 instead??
I own one. Let me warn you. This unit tests the supply polarity (common vs hot) and the grounding. I have seen two installations where properly wired and grounded outlets were failed by the unit. I'm not sure what's going on here.
I've been using the ford version on this with my lightning for two weeks and this thing failed multiple times at -10 even though it is rated to -20. I reinstalled it inside and it constantly de-rates to 6 mAh and 3 mAh. It has overheated more than once inside. The bottom of the charger and wire gets really hot. Now I'm going have to figure out how to prove to my dealer that it needs to be replaced.
With the ChargePoint Flex in the garage, I’m looking forward to something like this that could work at a cabin rental or at a relatives home. I’m thinking 20’ may be on the low end of the needed reach. Also camp ground adapters and NEMA 14/50 extensions would be handy resources. Thanks for the awesome review Tom. Would love it if Charge Point or someone made one with app access.
Do we know for certain that the IP67 submersion rating doesn't mean the unit can withstand that depth when NOT activated? The legal language to me was a bit unclear. Another thing to note is that this is one of the fairly few UL-listed, dual-voltage EVSE options for sale. That made it an easy choice for me. Thanks for the great work.
The unit is IP67 rated, but did the manufacture state that it will function without fault while submerged under water? A takeaway from the study could be that it's rated for being dropped in up to 3' of water and not being ruined. Which it will likely pass on and did so for the brief moment it was submerged.
Tom, you may want to suggest to your viewers that they should discount the deep freeze test if they live in the Southern States from your chargerator calculation.
We also received this unit with our Ford EV, a Mustang Mach E. We successfully used it for daily charging for 7 months, but the connector was dropped on our garage floor and a spring popped out. The latch at the top no longer functions. I was surprised your unit passed the drop test. Must have been some bad luck on our part 😢
EVSEs in Europe use a separate charging cable.... It would be nice if that would be adopted in the US too.... In which case over the charging cable would have to be replaced...
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney You should drop the connector from different directions during your tests, not all the same way. Such as end down. The latch is a known weak point on this charger, there many reports of it breaking (Ford also has a service bulletin on it). Because of the weak latch and the overheating issues that pop up after months of use, I don't recommend this charger.
@@WSandig My comment was in reference to "all EVSEs".... And it is irrelevant If it's "usual or not." anyway... the point, is that configuration, has distinctive advantages.... But thank you for your input my pedantic friend....
Any recommendations for an affordable portable EVSE to keep in my car for occasional opportunity charging? I want to be ready for any opportunity to charge with the right set of adapters, including 120v 15A, 240v 30A to 40A charging from 650, 1450 or dryer outlet. I'll also carry a Tesla to J1772 adapter.
Like you said, it is expensive for a 32 amp portable charger. I don't understand why more portable chargers do not let you select the AMPs. If you think why you are buying a portable unit, you are buying it to use at different places, and not all places have the same Amps.. Not all Nema 14-50 plugs are on the same size circuit.
If you have a NEMA 14-50 on anything less than a 50A circuit you have a fire hazard and a serious code violation. You need that fixed immediately. You are allowed to put an outlet on a circuit with a higher Amp rating, but never less. Remember too that continuous loads are limited to 80% of the rated capacity of the circuit. That is why the maximum charge current allowed on a 50A circuit is 40A, or 12A on a 15A circuit. However, you also have to keep in mind what else might be on that circuit, so the Webasto unit seems to limit the draw to 10A on a 15A circuit with the 120V adaptor.
@@pondking2801 yes I understand electric current and the 80%. Most ovens are on 40 amp breakers that I have seen. Might be an older code? Also, what if you want to connect 2 EVSEs to one 50 amp circuit? I can't do that if the car nor the EVSE is not adjustable.
You should keep charging while the charger is submerged even if that isn't technically part of the IP rating. Your test should be harder than the IP rating.
I purchased one of these from my dealer (no markup) when I bought my new Kia EV6, which does not come with any auxiliary cords. I am using it temporarily for overnight charging on my 120 garage outlet until I get my 240 outlet installed. My question, for which I have not yet seen an answer even in the owner's manual, is how to remove the 120 adapter from the main unit once it is pugged in. I tried pulling on it, but it seems very tightly seated. If I can't remove it, there is no way to change to the 240 adapter when needed. Also, you can't get the charger unit & cords back into the carrying case with an adapter attached. Maybe this is self-evident to some, but it has me puzzled.
Tom, Is there a portable dual voltage EV charger with safety certification that you have tested, and recommend, that’s under $400? Thanks for your excellent videos
I just found your page. I really appreciate your content. I was wondering if you could review the Grizzl-E mini? I'm interested in your opinion, esp. regarding exposure to high outside summer temperatures. Thanks in advance!
Does anyone have experience using this Webasto with an EV6? This is what Kia dealership sells for a portable EVSE. I bought a Lectron level1/2 that keeps shutting down when even trying to charge on a new 14-50 outlet with a 50 amp circuit. It will charge only after I adjust car AC charging settings to "minimum" which means 4.4 kW...which is slow. My outlet is only 5 feet from the main circuit board- I am wondering if the short run means maybe too much voltage compared to my home 50 amp circuit which has probably a 50' run to the outlet from the main circuit board? Any ideas? I have heard the Lectron EVSE is "junk" but is it working properly? They have no phone support and email is not getting answers. Thanks!
I have had my EV6 for just two weeks now and have been using the Webasto Go charger (purchased from my Kia dealer) while waiting for my permanent wall-mounted GrizzleE level 2 charger to be installed end of the week. It has worked fine (if slowly because of 120) up until now since this is not our only vehicle. Seems like I could possibly have used this as my permanent charger as well. It was quite expensive at $545. Hope I get some further use out of it on trips after the permanent level 2 is installed!
Tom, thanks! I appreciate finding out who makes the Ford portable EVSE. I really like the dual voltage portable EVSE that came with my wife's XC40 Recharge - it is quite a beefy unit. Might you know who makes it for Volvo?
Hi Tom, great review! I just bought my first EV, the Ioniq 6 which has a 361 mile range, but still have Range Anxiety for an upcoming trip from Austin to Houston. You can count the number of Level 3 chargers on one hand, and the Level 2s aren’t abundant! I understand you can use this type of portable Level 2 charger on Dryer outlets or RV sites. I would love to see a video showing the options. Also, I would love to see a video comparing the top portable Level 2 chargers, like your recent 48 amp video. Keep up the great work! Joe
I think you’ll be fine with a quick charge in Houston just for comfort. If you want to make it in one go, slow down and drive the speed limit or slightly slower as long as it’s safe
Tom, Love your reviews, but you missed a critical issue in this review and your scorecard. A *portable* EV charger absolutely needs to adjust amperage somehow, someway, for whatever circuit you might be stuck with. Like a 30-amp dryer plug at an AirBNB. Or 30-amp RV plug in the middle of nowhere. I know UL or NEC or somebody doesn’t like user-adjustable amperages (except if you pay more for a larger, heavier, “permanent“ Internet of Trash charger plus a wonky app), because consumers Might Do Something Stupid. So instead we hook up an over-amped EVSE like this through a chain of dodgy Amazon adapters, and pray that no fires start or circuit breakers pop. Exactly what improved? Even if consumers are not allowed to flip switches to adjust amperage, maybe something like this would work: Sell a very similar EVSE with multiple adapters, so that when you plug in a TT-30, the unit drops to 24 amps. A NEMA 14-50 supplies 32 amps just to be safe. NEMA 5-20: 15 amps. And so on. Not rocket science. Tesla owners are giggling because they can fine-tune amperage on their car. The rest of us country bumpkins can’t. Sorry for the rant, but until we have widespread but reliable fast DC chargers, many EV owners need portable Level 2 chargers that can adjust to whatever current and voltage is available. Note: Webasto private labels chargers for most EV makers. That’s why it looks so familiar.
I do have a line on the ChargerRater for adjustable amperage, so it is considered in the scoring. Many (perhaps even most) EVs allow the owner to set the amperage limit in the vehicle or app, and I believe that all EVs will have that functionality built into them within a few years. But yes, as you point out, it is important.
Key differences between Ford Mobile Charger and Webasto Go: the Ford charger has a 30 Amp rated NEMA 14-50 cord adapter and overheats. And the Webasto Go has a 40 Amp rated NEMA 14-50 and doesn’t overheat.
Hey Tom, probably not wise to recommend adapters that violate electrical code (NEC). These should NEVER be used with an extension cord or adapter to match your outlet. Additionally, you defeat the temperature sensing feature in the grid plug that is used to determine if the wall outlet is faulty and has a high resistance connection. Please do a little more homework before sharing potentially dangerous suggestions.
@Marc Popelsky I wouldn't expect that to happen. Typically, when a company uses one US-based certification lab, they don't also use another. There's very little reason to because the testing will be the same.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney I also reached out to a tech person at Grizzl-E. They said they expect the mini to be certified around September, although that date is subject to change.
@@user-hf2bn8po9z I'm sorry I'm replying on mobile and misunderstood. I thought you were asking about the Webasto Go. The Grizzl-e Mini should have UL cert very soon.
Because that's what people understand them to be. Also, it's what all of the companies that sell them call them. I have explained in many videos that they are actually "EVSE", and that the charger is built into the car. Nobody is saying "I need to buy a new EVSE", just about everyone calls them chargers, even if that's not technically correct. The ship has sailed people search for "charger" online, not EVSE, so that's what they are going to be referred to by everyone besides the real technical geeks, it's time to move on.
Been using the Ford branded version of this EVSE for a year now with my Mustang Mach-E (A Tesla Model 3 and a Chevy Bolt also use it too 😅). It lives outside when charging or inside my trunk. It's held up well to heavy rain, snow, hot and cold temps. The one thing I don't like is that water gets inside where you connect the adapter that you want to use. Its never stopped charging and it doesn't look like it caused any issues for the adapter but I don't like that it does that. Also in very warm tempatures it will reduce charging speed. Other than that I love it. The cable holds up well in the cold (well below freezing temps). Not too hard to handle since it doesn't weigh much and its a good length. Very happy that Ford gave us a dual voltage EVSE.
Definitely a solid unit (I have the Ford Mobile Power Cord version from my Lightning). We use this all the time at our cottage at the full 32A output. Also as a 120V at times. We have a permanent holster at our cottage next to our weather proof 14-50R.
Very heavy use since July of 2022 with no issues. I like the auto switching for voltage (we use is with a 10-30 adapter at our condo in FL on a dryer plug). I've even charged Teslas with the Tesla adapter without issue.
I own 2021 VW I’d.4. Using a Mustart 40 amp evse it stops charging after about 25 minutes. The breaker doesn’t trip, but it stops charging. If I unplug it and plug it back and will restart charging, but for a shorter time. Question: what could be the problem?
Tom, great review! I have two comments: 1) This is the charger that comes with the Bolt EUV and is optional on the Bolt EV. Many people have had problems due to the plug adapter (the NEMA 14-50 or NEMA 5-15) not being inserted far enough. My guess is that this is the problem the Tesla owner had in that Amazon review. There will be lights on the unit, but it will error and won't charge.
2) The biggest problem I see with this unit is that it does not have adjustable amperage. The most common 240V outlet someone is going to have already available in or near their garage is a 30 amp dryer outlet. Since this unit pulls 32 amps, that is not possible, even with an adapter. It seems like they dropped the ball here. This should at least be able to be dropped down to 24 amps, and ideally to 16 amps as well (for 20 amp circuits). I worry that a number of people will get these and then get an adapter to plug into their dryer outlet.
Bonus comment: If you use the 120V adapter, but plug into a 240V outlet (with yet another adapter), this unit will run at 12 amps 240V, or twice the charge rate of the 120V setting.
I own a ‘22 Bolt EUV and ‘23 Mach-E. Am I correct that the supplied EVSEs are mechanically identical, with the only differences being the case designs and cord length? Looks like Ford kept the stock case design from Webasto and slapped their logo on it, where Chevy has a custom case with (frustratingly) upside down screw mounting points for a ground-up outlet install.
I bought a used 2020 Chevy Bolt EV that didn't come with a portable charger. I bought one of these on FB marketplace for $100 new, from someone who got it with their Mercedes and didn't need it. Working like a charm!
It's a little expensive when it's sold under the Webasto brand, but if you buy it as a Ford, GM, or VW unit, it's usually a lot cheaper.
I wish they'd sell other adapters for it: 6-20, 15-30, etc. That would make it better for travel and better for new EV owners who might have a receptacle that was installed for some other purpose.
They've developed them, they're just not released yet for some reason. They did release them for the charger they make for Cadillac/GM, but they only work with the GM charger...........
@@1970351C2V Yes, I've seen a picture of them hanging on a display board in their offices.
Tom - PLEASE ask Webasto when they are going to release their dongles ("Grid plugs") for other outlets already. Having the ability to plug into a TT-30 or 14R30 would make this charger really appealing. They've developed them, they're just not for sale yet.
I think in Miss Go Electric's video you can even see all the dongles on the wall. What's the hold-up?
You can get 14-30 and TT-30 adapters from Cadillac/GM, they fit but not sure if they work.
@TechnicalLee They don't, I already asked Webasto. Also someone on the Mach E forum tried and the charger faulted.
Mine came with my EQE and it passed the dunk test, so I’m very surprised why it failed. But thank very much for the great educational video.🙏
The specifications, layout, and the diameter of the cord of this charger seem identical to the Chevy Dual Level Charge Cord. This costs about $50 more, but it also has a wall bracket, travel case, and rubber-armored case. Looks pretty competitive, but I think that they made a mistake with the submersion proof claim. Great channel, never knew about the Lectron holster, that looks very useful for this type of unit.
The Chevy unit not including a wall bracket is a big miss, considering it can only be mounted one way (J1772 cord up) with the stock mounting points.
Good review as always. You should try and find a way to test for hot weather performance. Most of the issues I've heard of with these units seem to be related to overheating, I'm not sure if it's the unit itself overheating or if there is a thermal sensor in the plug that is causing the errors. If it was the later, it would be an indication of an issue with the outlet or plug and I would give a bunch of bonus points to EVSE that detect overheated plugs based on some of the failure photos I've seen.
Pretty sure this is exactly what came with my Chevrolet Bolt EUV. Has worked well for me
Hey Tom - another great review. Thanks for doing these portable chargers! I, too, wish Tesla would come out with a TMC with J1772. You may have already noticed this, but you have a minor typo in your ChargerRater. In the Convenience & Portability section under Dual Voltage, you accidentally missed the T in "adapter." Not a big deal, but figured you'd want to get that updated for the next one. Thanks again and keep up the great work!
Little off-topic from the Webasto review, but State of Charge is the best place for conversations on anything EVSE. Being frugal, I hate to see EVSEs trashed due to a pinched communication cable or a damaged plug. This happens, or Tom wouldn't keep doing the drop test. I am more throwing out a request than a solution, but I would love to see a well-documented page for educating electricians on replacing the plug. I agree there is no substitute for a great company like Qmerit, but this resource is needed. Essential to recognize quality certified replacements, the difference between 32amp, 48 amp, and 80 amp plugs, and a proper crimp tool. An EVSE is probably the first continuous-use appliance in your home, so quality matters. Commercial Nema 14050 plugs matter if you don't hardwire. We need an internet resource page to keep people out of trouble. The plugs are going to be replaced. Maybe Qmerit would consider this? Maybe State of Charge?
I have a Webasto sunroof in my Nissan LEAF for the past 10 years and it has never leaked yet and I used it yesterday.
Webasto makes good stuff.
It's pretty hard to get adaptor fittings like the ones on this unit to be truly watertight, so I think the big thing here is that it's good enough it should be fine in most rain and very importantly, when water does get into the connecter, it faults but does not get into the unit itself and short circuit. So after drying out the connector the unit survives just fine.
While perhaps that means it's not accurate for it to have the rating it does, it is an important distinction that the unit's internals are sealed and it survives the connector getting wet.
Another excellent EVSE review - You continue to provide the most comprehensive information for charging equipment!
Did the company respond when you told them about the failed submersion test? Since this is the same/similar unit to the OEM Ford EVSE, how did that fare in the submersion test? It would be nice to get to the bottom of the issue you found.
For your rankings, I suggest adding points possible for additional adaptors. A portable EVSE is going to be used in a wider variety of scenarios, and the more plugs that you can use (14-50, 6-15, TT-30, etc) the better. Doing so would encourage makers of units that are capable of modular plugs to produce more options.
A Webasto Go Portable unit came with my Kia EV6 and I had a 240 Volt receptacle installed in the carport to use it. The first charging session ran perfectly. The
second one did not. I had set the charging to begin at 10 pm but when I checked on it at 1030 no charge was flowing. Turns out that the 50 amp breaker that serves the unit had been tripped by a ground fault. After I reset the breaker an orange light appeared on the unit instead of the nominal blue light, but there was still no charge flowing. Within seconds a
loud POP came from the unit and everything went dead. I had believed the claim that the Webasto is so water tight that it can operate under water but that is not the case. We had had a day-long windy rain the day before I started the 10 pm charging and during that period enough rain had seeped into the apparently water tight interface between the NEMA 14-50 adapter and the (wall mounted) charge unit to create a virtual pool of water around the four electrical contacts. The short circuit that produced the POP created a micro explosion of metal and rubber that rendered the charger worthless. Buyer beware.
Tom
The GM mobile charger for the Lyric, which is also made by webasto, offers a tt-30 adapter to provide 240v 24a.
Users on the Mach-e site tried it and it didn't work with the Mach-e charger. I don't believe it has been tried with the Lightning MC. Might be worth an attempt with this unbranded Webasto Go (and the Lightning)
There is also a way to do 240v 12a with the Ford MC, but not sure if you want to get into that.
Hi Tom. I know that this review has been up for a while, but as a new Bolt owner, I just found it.
As you know, Webasto provides the dual level charger for the Chevy Bolt EUV. While searching the internet, I found that the J1772 cable AC conductors in the Webasto charger are listed as AWG #10. Usually, that size cable is rated for 30 Amps, which is slightly less than the 32 Amps that the charger puts out.
This probably explains why the cable is a bit warm to the touch while in operation. One thing I would look out for is placing this charger wire in the snow during the winter. It will probably melt its way through the snow. Worse yet, when the charger shuts off, the snow/ice may re-freeze over the cable.
Someday I'll tell you the story of having to dig 4/0 welding cable out of the snow and ice with a pickaxe...
I have to power cycle mine (Ford version) every month or two. It just randomly goes into a fault state. It is mounted on the wall and plugged into a 14-50 and generally only gets weekly use. It does go back to blue after each off-on but I can't say that this inspires a lot of confidence that the unit is reliable. I also own one of the Shell Recharge units that you didn't like so I do have a back up. The Shell unit makes much more sense as a travel EVSE as it has full power level selections from 40A down to 12A so no matter what the circuit is rated, I can choose the correct amperage. I think you need to modify the scoring for Adjustable Power. Some units don't follow the 80% guideline for amps so you get weird power levels that could result in either charging the car slower or overloading the circuit. I think a unit that has 40,32,24,15,12 amp selections deserves extra points. I've charged on both 20 and 30 amp circuits using 15 and 24 amps respectively. The seller insists that the Shell unit is now UL listed but I've not been able to verify their claim.
Glad to see you are going to be evaluating more mobile EVSEs. This will be a huge benefit. Looking forward to watching them all. Thanks for being my "go to" expert.
I have webasto charger at home, works every time with my Tesla and Jeep 4XE. A few times the Tesla has reported a charge port error-check connection. Even with this occasional error the charge will start at the scheduled time. My thoughts for the benchmark for a 32 amp charger should be $330 like the Tesla portable charger.
Nice demo... great job Tom, again!
Tom, I see where you're coming from in terms of disappointment that the unit faulted when submerged. But I think the argument could be made that it operated as advertised and intended. Hear me out. Water ingress into the unit likely didn't occur, instead it only entered the removable electrical connection which caused it to temporarily fault. Functionally it stopped working, but no damage was done.
Most modern smart phones can be submerged, but I don't think people expect them to work underwater. We recognize that touch screens, microphones, and speakers will fail to function correctly when submerged. The expectation is once dried, they will start working again. Just as this EVSE did.
Also, submersion is a pretty demanding condition for an EVSE that is essentially a smart extension cord. Personally, I would appreciate the unit opening its contactor to isolate as much as possible if it was submerged. Ideally traditional extension cords would do that if their connector were say submerged in a puddle.
That's why I only deducted 1 point for it failing the test. With an IP67 rating, it should work in 3-ft of water for 30 minutes, like the J Booster + did in its test: ruclips.net/video/QX_oyj_bsbc/видео.html
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney The scoring approach seems more than fair. But I'm not convinced that our expectation should be that this EVSE continues to work when submerged given the IP rating. The J Booster + did, fantastic, but that shouldn't suggest any other EVSEs with the same IP rating will behave the same.
I scanned through IEC 60529 to refresh my memory, and there is no mention of the electrical device continuing to work or function under these conditions. Instead, they say: "The second characteristic numeral indicates the degree of protection provided by enclosures with respect to harmful effects on the equipment due to the ingress of water".
As far as we know, no "harmful effects" (damage) was done here. Also, I think the argument could be made the impacted connector was not within the enclosure. Just like it's Nema connector isn't.
Ingress protection isn't my area of expertise, and I don't have a horse in this race. But in my line of work, it's very important to document product requirements to avoid differing expectations during the validation stage. Much like you're doing here.
@@-Enginerd the problem with your logic, is it's not an "assumption".... the company is "explicitly" stating, that it can perform in that manner....
the test results are contrary to what they are directly telling potential customers....
I don't see a way, that the test results can be rationalized, to coincide with what the company is directly and succinctly telling potential customers? But if you do, so be it....
@@nc3826 I have to disagree that the FAQ response from the manufacturer is explicitly stating their product will continue to function when submerged. Perhaps the individual writing that response was picturing the unit was unpowered at the time. They were thinking, yeah, the IP67 rating will absolutely protect the internals allowing it to function afterwards. As it did. Whereas you and others are picturing it is powered up.
General statements leave so much room for interpretation. That's why Engineering standards are so lengthy and boring to read. Laws are the same way.
@@-Enginerd "function when submerged", so how can it be, "unpowered at the time"???
i'm scared you're going to try to sell me a perpetual motion machine, based on that logic....
(So you're trying to say, "is" doesn't' mean is. (Where is Bill Clinton when we need him?) None of this matters, but the illogical aspect of it was so amusing, I had to mention....And if you want to pretend that there is no incongruity, that's fine... It's not worth debating....
Since as expected you misleadingly attempted to change the context and narrative of my retort.... i purposely avoided referencing standards or any form of legality.... This is not about suing the company....
"it's about being completely honest, with customers, period" (Since most of us, want the word "is" to mean is, when we ask a simple question to a company .... and if a misrepresentation is made we want the company to be honest about it... and clarify It in a concise manner)
So thank you for proving my point.... And have a nice day rationalizing, my litigious oriented friend...
I use the charger ford provided with F150 Lightning. I use it regularly and have been very pleased with its performance. I also have the 80 amp Ford pro which I use with my wife’s Hyundai Ioniq 5. In the Lightning I cannot see any truly measurable difference between those 2 chargers, however, in the Ioniq, the Pro does a much better job than the 32 amp model. Nice to see this one rated.
This looks like the VW 2 in 1 EVSE. The dealership threw in this charger when we bought our ID.4 a couple of weeks ago...
Looks like a solid charger, but a little disappointed with the $500 price tag. IMO, the Tesla mobile charger for $230 + $99 Tesla-to-J1772 adapter is a better value.
I like the Lectron mount, too, for J1772 plugs only. I also prefer the horizontal holster mount to the wall, though with Tesla controlling 50% of the market, there is a good chance you would like a versatile holster or two. Meaning one holster outfitted with Tesla-to-J1772 adapter. We have two EVs, one being a Tesla. I always keep a Tesla J1772-to-Tesla adapter in the Tesla and prefer to leave an adapter on one of the EVSEs at all times.
An important note in evaluating EVSE holsters like the very clever $399 Emporia smart EVSE capable of charging on excess solar. Excellent charger for $399, and killer for $479 with Vue2 solar kit. At first glance, the Emporia holster stinks facing up until you realize it is quite handy if you leave a J1772-to-Tesla adapter on your plug if mounted in a garage.
Still, the Webasto looks excellent. How about $400 instead??
Unfortunately Ford has started charging $500 for it with the Mach Es. They lowered the price but removed formerly included items.
I own one. Let me warn you. This unit tests the supply polarity (common vs hot) and the grounding. I have seen two installations where properly wired and grounded outlets were failed by the unit. I'm not sure what's going on here.
I've been using the ford version on this with my lightning for two weeks and this thing failed multiple times at -10 even though it is rated to -20. I reinstalled it inside and it constantly de-rates to 6 mAh and 3 mAh. It has overheated more than once inside. The bottom of the charger and wire gets really hot. Now I'm going have to figure out how to prove to my dealer that it needs to be replaced.
Is the GM Dual Level Charging Cord a variation of this unit?
Love your reviews! Thank you. Any plans on reviewing the Rivian charger?
Yep, hopefully soon.
With the ChargePoint Flex in the garage, I’m looking forward to something like this that could work at a cabin rental or at a relatives home. I’m thinking 20’ may be on the low end of the needed reach. Also camp ground adapters and NEMA 14/50 extensions would be handy resources. Thanks for the awesome review Tom. Would love it if Charge Point or someone made one with app access.
Do we know for certain that the IP67 submersion rating doesn't mean the unit can withstand that depth when NOT activated? The legal language to me was a bit unclear. Another thing to note is that this is one of the fairly few UL-listed, dual-voltage EVSE options for sale. That made it an easy choice for me. Thanks for the great work.
The unit is IP67 rated, but did the manufacture state that it will function without fault while submerged under water? A takeaway from the study could be that it's rated for being dropped in up to 3' of water and not being ruined. Which it will likely pass on and did so for the brief moment it was submerged.
I'm investigating this very point and will update once I have clarity from the governing body, the IEC.
Tom, you may want to suggest to your viewers that they should discount the deep freeze test if they live in the Southern States from your chargerator calculation.
Do you think that I really need to tell someone that if they live in an area that doesn't get cold? 😁
We also received this unit with our Ford EV, a Mustang Mach E. We successfully used it for daily charging for 7 months, but the connector was dropped on our garage floor and a spring popped out. The latch at the top no longer functions. I was surprised your unit passed the drop test. Must have been some bad luck on our part 😢
All it takes is 1 drop if it hits in the right (wrong) place
EVSEs in Europe use a separate charging cable.... It would be nice if that would be adopted in the US too....
In which case over the charging cable would have to be replaced...
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney You should drop the connector from different directions during your tests, not all the same way. Such as end down. The latch is a known weak point on this charger, there many reports of it breaking (Ford also has a service bulletin on it). Because of the weak latch and the overheating issues that pop up after months of use, I don't recommend this charger.
@@nc3826 portable units like this usually don't. neither do a lot of home chargers. it's really mainly public chargers that come without a cable.
@@WSandig My comment was in reference to "all EVSEs".... And it is irrelevant If it's "usual or not." anyway... the point, is that configuration, has distinctive advantages....
But thank you for your input my pedantic friend....
Any recommendations for an affordable portable EVSE to keep in my car for occasional opportunity charging? I want to be ready for any opportunity to charge with the right set of adapters, including 120v 15A, 240v 30A to 40A charging from 650, 1450 or dryer outlet. I'll also carry a Tesla to J1772 adapter.
Like you said, it is expensive for a 32 amp portable charger. I don't understand why more portable chargers do not let you select the AMPs. If you think why you are buying a portable unit, you are buying it to use at different places, and not all places have the same Amps.. Not all Nema 14-50 plugs are on the same size circuit.
If you have a NEMA 14-50 on anything less than a 50A circuit you have a fire hazard and a serious code violation. You need that fixed immediately. You are allowed to put an outlet on a circuit with a higher Amp rating, but never less. Remember too that continuous loads are limited to 80% of the rated capacity of the circuit. That is why the maximum charge current allowed on a 50A circuit is 40A, or 12A on a 15A circuit. However, you also have to keep in mind what else might be on that circuit, so the Webasto unit seems to limit the draw to 10A on a 15A circuit with the 120V adaptor.
@@pondking2801 yes I understand electric current and the 80%. Most ovens are on 40 amp breakers that I have seen. Might be an older code? Also, what if you want to connect 2 EVSEs to one 50 amp circuit? I can't do that if the car nor the EVSE is not adjustable.
Tom, have you compiled a video of your top portable EVSE units yet?
You should keep charging while the charger is submerged even if that isn't technically part of the IP rating. Your test should be harder than the IP rating.
On the Webasto Go...is there a 14-30 adapter plug?....I
Great Content!!!!! Have this Ev will work w Jeep 4xe??
I purchased one of these from my dealer (no markup) when I bought my new Kia EV6, which does not come with any auxiliary cords. I am using it temporarily for overnight charging on my 120 garage outlet until I get my 240 outlet installed. My question, for which I have not yet seen an answer even in the owner's manual, is how to remove the 120 adapter from the main unit once it is pugged in. I tried pulling on it, but it seems very tightly seated. If I can't remove it, there is no way to change to the 240 adapter when needed. Also, you can't get the charger unit & cords back into the carrying case with an adapter attached. Maybe this is self-evident to some, but it has me puzzled.
Pull harder. It is a very tight fit.
Tom,
Is there a portable dual voltage EV charger with safety certification that you have tested, and recommend, that’s under $400? Thanks for your excellent videos
I just found your page. I really appreciate your content. I was wondering if you could review the Grizzl-E mini? I'm interested in your opinion, esp. regarding exposure to high outside summer temperatures. Thanks in advance!
have you tried the grizzl e mini,,, seems nice 40 amp portable ,, all the adapters etc
Does anyone have experience using this Webasto with an EV6? This is what Kia dealership sells for a portable EVSE. I bought a Lectron level1/2 that keeps shutting down when even trying to charge on a new 14-50 outlet with a 50 amp circuit. It will charge only after I adjust car AC charging settings to "minimum" which means 4.4 kW...which is slow. My outlet is only 5 feet from the main circuit board- I am wondering if the short run means maybe too much voltage compared to my home 50 amp circuit which has probably a 50' run to the outlet from the main circuit board? Any ideas? I have heard the Lectron EVSE is "junk" but is it working properly? They have no phone support and email is not getting answers. Thanks!
I have had my EV6 for just two weeks now and have been using the Webasto Go charger (purchased from my Kia dealer) while waiting for my permanent wall-mounted GrizzleE level 2 charger to be installed end of the week. It has worked fine (if slowly because of 120) up until now since this is not our only vehicle. Seems like I could possibly have used this as my permanent charger as well. It was quite expensive at $545. Hope I get some further use out of it on trips after the permanent level 2 is installed!
After my mach e updated to 4.2.5 it started charging at 6 kw up from 3 kw. I use the ford garage charger. Any thoughts?
Tom, thanks! I appreciate finding out who makes the Ford portable EVSE. I really like the dual voltage portable EVSE that came with my wife's XC40 Recharge - it is quite a beefy unit. Might you know who makes it for Volvo?
Look at the specification sticker on the back, it may say the manufacturer there.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Sticker says Volvo.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney checked UL listing and UL says Delta makes it.
Hi Tom, great review! I just bought my first EV, the Ioniq 6 which has a 361 mile range, but still have Range Anxiety for an upcoming trip from Austin to Houston. You can count the number of Level 3 chargers on one hand, and the Level 2s aren’t abundant! I understand you can use this type of portable Level 2 charger on Dryer outlets or RV sites. I would love to see a video showing the options. Also, I would love to see a video comparing the top portable Level 2 chargers, like your recent 48 amp video. Keep up the great work! Joe
To make is worse I guarantee 280 miles at best for you in that heat.
I think you’ll be fine with a quick charge in Houston just for comfort. If you want to make it in one go, slow down and drive the speed limit or slightly slower as long as it’s safe
Tom,
Love your reviews, but you missed a critical issue in this review and your scorecard.
A *portable* EV charger absolutely needs to adjust amperage somehow, someway, for whatever circuit you might be stuck with. Like a 30-amp dryer plug at an AirBNB. Or 30-amp RV plug in the middle of nowhere.
I know UL or NEC or somebody doesn’t like user-adjustable amperages (except if you pay more for a larger, heavier, “permanent“ Internet of Trash charger plus a wonky app), because consumers Might Do Something Stupid. So instead we hook up an over-amped EVSE like this through a chain of dodgy Amazon adapters, and pray that no fires start or circuit breakers pop. Exactly what improved?
Even if consumers are not allowed to flip switches to adjust amperage, maybe something like this would work:
Sell a very similar EVSE with multiple adapters, so that when you plug in a TT-30, the unit drops to 24 amps. A NEMA 14-50 supplies 32 amps just to be safe. NEMA 5-20: 15 amps. And so on. Not rocket science.
Tesla owners are giggling because they can fine-tune amperage on their car. The rest of us country bumpkins can’t.
Sorry for the rant, but until we have widespread but reliable fast DC chargers, many EV owners need portable Level 2 chargers that can adjust to whatever current and voltage is available.
Note: Webasto private labels chargers for most EV makers. That’s why it looks so familiar.
I do have a line on the ChargerRater for adjustable amperage, so it is considered in the scoring. Many (perhaps even most) EVs allow the owner to set the amperage limit in the vehicle or app, and I believe that all EVs will have that functionality built into them within a few years. But yes, as you point out, it is important.
Looks just like to ford mobile charger
It is. Webasto makes these as a supplier to many vehicle manufacturers
That’s because it is.
Took the words out of my mouth.
Key differences between Ford Mobile Charger and Webasto Go: the Ford charger has a 30 Amp rated NEMA 14-50 cord adapter and overheats. And the Webasto Go has a 40 Amp rated NEMA 14-50 and doesn’t overheat.
It is. Tom mentioned that in the video, you must have missed it.
Looks exactly like the Ford mobile charger that came with my F150 Lightning.
It is the same, I mention that in the review.
Hey Tom, probably not wise to recommend adapters that violate electrical code (NEC). These should NEVER be used with an extension cord or adapter to match your outlet. Additionally, you defeat the temperature sensing feature in the grid plug that is used to determine if the wall outlet is faulty and has a high resistance connection. Please do a little more homework before sharing potentially dangerous suggestions.
I wouldn't be surprised to see all of these portable units fail the submergence test.
They don't, though. The J+ Booster I recently reviewed passed.
The Grizzl-e portable is a better option in my opinion.
We're going to test it out as soon as it gets UL certification
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Do you know if/when they are planning to give it UL certification?
@Marc Popelsky I wouldn't expect that to happen. Typically, when a company uses one US-based certification lab, they don't also use another. There's very little reason to because the testing will be the same.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney I also reached out to a tech person at Grizzl-E. They said they expect the mini to be certified around September, although that date is subject to change.
@@user-hf2bn8po9z I'm sorry I'm replying on mobile and misunderstood. I thought you were asking about the Webasto Go. The Grizzl-e Mini should have UL cert very soon.
Wow. And my Tesla dual voltage adjustable mobile charger (that works great) was only $200.
i mean this is just the same as teh ford andd the tesla branded one
Hope their EVSE is better than their Bronco hard tops….
who makes the EVSC for this unicorn?
This is literally the Ford/Lincoln provided EVSE.
Yes, it is. Webasto supplies charging equipment for many OEMs.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Ooohhh!
Why do you keep calling these things "chargers'?
Because that's what people understand them to be. Also, it's what all of the companies that sell them call them. I have explained in many videos that they are actually "EVSE", and that the charger is built into the car. Nobody is saying "I need to buy a new EVSE", just about everyone calls them chargers, even if that's not technically correct. The ship has sailed people search for "charger" online, not EVSE, so that's what they are going to be referred to by everyone besides the real technical geeks, it's time to move on.
Looks awfully similar to my Lightning's mobile charger lol
It is the same, I mention that in the review.
The Webasto looks exactly like the Ford Mobile charger...
It is the same, I mention that in the review.
why would anyone buy this? A Tesla mobile charger with the 14-50 plug and J1772 adapter is cheaper and more proven.