Why Qui Gon Jinn Didn't JOIN the HIGH JEDI COUNCIL

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  • Qui Gon Jinn was offered a spot on the high jedi council by none other than the grand master Yoda himself. But he ultimately would turn down the promotion, one of the only jedi in history to do so. We discuss today in this video why he did it.
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Комментарии • 299

  • @s4m_1223
    @s4m_1223 5 лет назад +632

    “Bring me the biggest fish on the menu.”
    “I’m afraid that’s not possible because...
    Qui-Gon: There is always a bigger fish.”

    • @darthsidious1183
      @darthsidious1183 5 лет назад +8

      How does this have 154 like and only 1 reply which is me?

    • @WalrusWinking
      @WalrusWinking 5 лет назад +14

      @@darthsidious1183 Because you're the Senate.

    • @saharshadhikari4595
      @saharshadhikari4595 4 года назад +8

      @@darthsidious1183 Because you have UNLIMITED POWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    • @dragonlord3376
      @dragonlord3376 4 года назад +4

      @@WalrusWinking not yet

    • @landonletterman831
      @landonletterman831 4 года назад +3

      I love that moment in the movie, where Jar Jar passed out, and then that "bigger fish," show's up with Sith eyes to save them.
      Darth Jar-Jar, anyone?

  • @victorbruant389
    @victorbruant389 5 лет назад +522

    Because the other members of the council didn't have a very particular set of skills acquired over a very long career.

    • @yogidemis8513
      @yogidemis8513 5 лет назад +15

      Haha, I was just thinking the same!!

    • @themadtitan7603
      @themadtitan7603 5 лет назад +5

      Lol

    • @englishlady9797
      @englishlady9797 4 года назад +4

      ...and they weren't Aslan. Although Dooku was also Saruman the White. So he really didn't need the Jedi.

    • @megandunnett7900
      @megandunnett7900 3 года назад +5

      While we’re on the topic of Jedi masters day jobs, I think the real reason why Windu went through the window is because he was sick of all these m&f# sith on this m&f# planet and he had his hands full dealing with the Avengers antics and trying to find all the hydra agents in shield. 😜😁

  • @sillybob9689
    @sillybob9689 5 лет назад +93

    Not enough pros to outweigh cons: weak retirement benefits, poor pay, inadequate healthcare, inadequate safety, hostile environment, little too political, and most noticeable: extremely uncomfortable seat.

    • @robertagu5533
      @robertagu5533 5 лет назад +9

      Yeah an the ground might not've high enough for Gin either...

  • @rgreed20081
    @rgreed20081 5 лет назад +192

    Qui Gon Jinn was one of the true last Jedi. He had likely seen the need to restore the balance. In order for the balance to be restore, some Force seekers must learn how to master the Dark Side of the Force. In one video on the Sith, one of the Sith's ways was originally focus primary on the search for knowledge. A true master of the Dark Side must have a very strong mind and will to help him to overcome the temptation of using the Dark Side to gather power. If there were Dark Side masters by the time of the Fall of the Jedi, they have likely remain in hiding until they were needed to help in the restoration of the balance in the Force.

    • @xenile2030
      @xenile2030 5 лет назад +13

      That is why anakin did bring balance to the force

    • @waz207
      @waz207 3 года назад +4

      I’ve read something similar...that in the pursuit of knowledge the Sith felt they were in the best position to lead the galaxy or w/e, which drives their need for power in that regard. Sith are always looking to better themselves, while the Jedi were set in their ways

    • @Werrf1
      @Werrf1 3 года назад +8

      @@waz207 The problem was not the Jedi. The problem was Yoda. Yoda had a god complex the size of Jabba's grocery bill; he didn't actually _trust_ anyone, so he did everything himself. He trained the younglings, he advised all the Jedi, he sat on the council. And he did this for _centuries._ Yoda kept the Jedi static. This is why Qui-Gon's refusal to join the council was so disastrous, and why he was selfish to refuse the offer. The council desperately needed more diversity of opinion. They _needed_ Qui-Gon, and Dooku, and even Anakin.

    • @TheFirstCurse1
      @TheFirstCurse1 Год назад +1

      This is just wrong. The Dark Side is a plague to The Force, and any Sith is like a tumor. To bring balance to The Force, you need to get rid of the Sith.
      The reason why The Force was so clouded and dark during Palpatine's rise and eventual reign was BECAUSE of Palpatine. He was arguably the biggest "tumor" in the history of The Force, if that makes sense.

    • @innesgibson6181
      @innesgibson6181 Год назад +1

      That was my initial thought, but George Lucas was saying that balance in the force isn't having equal parts dark and light but rather having no sith at all just jedi

  • @bassmasta605
    @bassmasta605 5 лет назад +71

    Dooku being obsessed with Jedi eschatology is something I didn't know I wanted until I got it.

    • @ONEIL311
      @ONEIL311 5 лет назад +2

      bassmasta605 fucked up part dooku’s prophecy can true

  • @EddyA1337
    @EddyA1337 4 года назад +49

    Technically qui-gonn eventually became Yoda's master

  • @akumaking1
    @akumaking1 5 лет назад +622

    "The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent."

    • @chrissnyder8415
      @chrissnyder8415 5 лет назад +26

      Nor does the ability to quote a movie.

    • @cheesaliciousable
      @cheesaliciousable 5 лет назад +24

      A comment that adequately dezcribes Jar Jar's entire existance

    • @admiralsquatbar127
      @admiralsquatbar127 5 лет назад +33

      This perfectly describes Trump.

    • @wardeni9603
      @wardeni9603 5 лет назад +33

      @@admiralsquatbar127 That perfectly describes quite a lot of people

    • @Selkirkie002
      @Selkirkie002 5 лет назад +26

      @@wardeni9603 including AOC

  • @kvaldez46
    @kvaldez46 5 лет назад +108

    At this point, I assume the Christmas tree will never be put away

    • @moonlittear218
      @moonlittear218 5 лет назад +10

      Kevin Valdez lol. It's been there for so long I didn't even realize it was still there. Yes. That makes perfect sense.

  • @turkeybeard2010
    @turkeybeard2010 5 лет назад +24

    Power is like a drink the more you have the more you want, and there are few people who can handle it.
    Drew McFarlane RDR

    • @duncanshaw1256
      @duncanshaw1256 4 года назад +4

      In other words, power is simply an addiction, nothing more and a self destructive addiction it is.

  • @GothicXlightning
    @GothicXlightning 5 лет назад +7

    one of the biggest reason for me to love SW EP 1
    will always be master Qui gon jin
    and one of the most memorable good things about it

  • @davidstorm2224
    @davidstorm2224 3 года назад +4

    Really wish they would make it canon that Luke’s green Kyber Crystal came from Qui Gons lightsaber. Would really help connect everything. Why else would Obi have had it in his Hutt?

  • @ganykaliya7811
    @ganykaliya7811 5 лет назад +10

    The laws of the Republic replaced the laws of the Force. Cough, cough Jedi not being allowed to have families. It's telling that Vergere criticism to Luke Skywalker about Ben's birth was not about attachments but the fact that he just founded a dynasty. Meaning, that Jedi not being allowed to have families was imposed originally by the Republic out of fear.

  • @gibby8540
    @gibby8540 5 лет назад +8

    Do a video on jedi that hated each other or disliked each other

    • @TheCrackedFirebird
      @TheCrackedFirebird 5 лет назад

      Fear leads to hate, hate leads to anger, anger leads to the Dark Side

  • @Kaiju-Driver
    @Kaiju-Driver 5 лет назад +3

    This is one of the best videos I've seen on this channel, keep up the great work everyone.

  • @curtis2077
    @curtis2077 5 лет назад +17

    Pretty sure these people are using the force. Posting comments before the video is even released

  • @loud479
    @loud479 5 лет назад +24

    Because they are blinded by there own status

  • @apachehelicopter9032
    @apachehelicopter9032 4 года назад +2

    He was a grey Jedi... He could never fully devote himself to the council's likes and dislikes but appreciated that the force had to be tempered and entertain the thought that the dark side was a given when you use the force....he appreciated this instead of denying it....

  • @lordseelenfresserdemonking1168
    @lordseelenfresserdemonking1168 5 лет назад +12

    The Christmas tree is still there

  • @geraldburke5147
    @geraldburke5147 4 года назад +1

    Really interesting points you make. Always loved Qui Gonn, he left us too quickly. Thank you

  • @johanlindgren5801
    @johanlindgren5801 5 лет назад +12

    I have an idea for a video how about you take us on a tour so to speak, show us the various rooms in the Jedi temple and there exact function and purpose, I know there are maps of the temple, you can use those as a baseline. just an idea

  • @breadeater7192
    @breadeater7192 4 года назад +1

    Now that I think about it. Maybe Ahsoka was given to Anakin to keep him off the council, simultaneously hopefully getting him to grow the fuck up in the meantime.

  • @markel4745
    @markel4745 5 лет назад +5

    Obi Won was on the council while Annakin was his padawon

    • @metzger5850
      @metzger5850 4 года назад

      Obi-Wan beat the brakes off of everyone he fought. No one was going to stop him.

    • @chino19963
      @chino19963 4 года назад +1

      Obi-wan was his master in episode 2 and he wasn’t on the council, in episode 3 he is in the council but he’s no longer anakins master so the same rules still apply there

  • @SPAZ2D2
    @SPAZ2D2 4 года назад +1

    That was a great video Qui-Gon Jinn is the best Jedi of that era

  • @colerinne3021
    @colerinne3021 4 года назад

    Good vid. Is this your channel or part of a bigger group?

  • @cherudium
    @cherudium 5 лет назад +25

    Is this supposed to be unlisted or am I way to early?

  • @ericshawn3169
    @ericshawn3169 4 года назад

    That thumbnail is hilarious you guys are the funniest people on yt

  • @hyperchord
    @hyperchord Год назад

    Great stuff! What are your sources? Just the book you mentioned at the beginning?

  • @sdaly5391
    @sdaly5391 4 года назад +1

    Dooku's chosen prophecy was about his padawan Qui Gon Gin, and Qui Gon Gin's chosen prophecy, was about his padawan, Anakin. Hmmm

  • @scottbraun2457
    @scottbraun2457 4 года назад +1

    Yes. I like him the best for these very reasons. You could call him a, "whole picture, kind of guy", as opposed to MOST, others, who are -were only, "looking at the smaller view".

  • @kevinkarnes4067
    @kevinkarnes4067 3 года назад

    10:08 This is why Qui-gon belongs on the short list of great Jedi.
    ✌❤

  • @kenwhitfield1569
    @kenwhitfield1569 4 года назад

    Can you do an episode explaining how hyperspace lanes work and how they are developed?

  • @shadowchaser8786
    @shadowchaser8786 5 лет назад

    Hey GT, not sure if the idea has been posited to you yet or if you'd already considered it or not, but I had just thought about it today:
    What if the Vuutun Palaa had closed her hangar bays and docking areas and resorted to picking off starfighters one by one with the quads, rather than launching all of her starfighter squadrons and straining the central computer? The N-1 could only carry a limited number of torpedoes (), which clearly had very little to no effect, and its guns were obviously only useful from other starfighters up to maybe corvette or light and medium freighter-class ships.
    What do you think? Would a hunker-down approach have saved the DCS, or would Bravo Squadron have found another way to harm it? Also wanting to know what the subs think, I'm genuinely curious to know how solid this is.

  • @thesharpercoder
    @thesharpercoder 5 лет назад +3

    Wasn’t there were five Jedi councils? One in each tower, with the High Jedi Council in the tallest, center tower.

    • @user-nm1lx8qb3u
      @user-nm1lx8qb3u 2 года назад

      No no, there were only the 4 councils. The council of reconciliation, reassignment, the council of first knowledge, and the jedi high council. Each of them in the 4 spires surrounding the tallest one. THAT one (the tallest spire that is.) Held the most ancient jedi knowledge and the oldest jedi texts. Most of which are in book form! (Take a moment to realize just how near IMPOSSIBLE it is to find PAPER in star wars!)

  • @kylemiller5148
    @kylemiller5148 4 года назад +1

    If only everyone on the council was like Qui gon jinn they would've had a far easier time teaching jedi and with its approach to politics 👏

  • @cristovive777jg
    @cristovive777jg 4 года назад +4

    He was too busy running the League of Shadows to also participate in Jedi High Council.....

  • @jeffma7507
    @jeffma7507 4 года назад +3

    Had qui-gon actually survived, anakin would have become as wise as him, if not more. And would not have fallen to the darkside so easily.

  • @patrickwentzell4638
    @patrickwentzell4638 5 лет назад +6

    "how can you be on the council and not be a master?" "take a seat young skywalker."

  • @Chill_Beatz
    @Chill_Beatz 4 года назад

    3:40 look guys a jedi with sunglasses!

  • @easter3000
    @easter3000 4 года назад +2

    As much as I love that period of lore and love the Jedi, I cannot understand two thongs:
    1. Why that spiritual order of warrior monks was so deeply involved in politics, bureaucracy and even police and military forces of Republic?
    2. Why the order of warrior monks with their settings of self isolation of the outer world‘s temptations and such stuff was so deeply involved in outer world’s business?

  • @reesebearspaw8700
    @reesebearspaw8700 5 лет назад +2

    what happened to the failed jedi that were in the service corps during/after order 66?

  • @MissVasques
    @MissVasques 5 лет назад

    Interesting. Star Wars Explained did a similar vid based on the book but more to me gave the view that the order found him unfit to join the council rather than that he himself found he didn’t want to join the council.

  • @kylestark1800
    @kylestark1800 5 лет назад

    I'd venture to say that the meridian trench is as wide as a six lane highway. I'm sure there is a metric somewhere that says how wide it is, but I can't find it at the moment. But if we figure the x-wing being 21 feet long and it being longer than it is wide, having three at a time able to make the run slightly overlapping would take up less than 63 feet with plenty of space on either side. Modern autobahn lanes would suggest around 73 feet for six lanes without a center divider.

    • @chrissonofpear1384
      @chrissonofpear1384 5 лет назад

      An X-Wing is 41 feet long, not 21. Nearly three can fly side by side, down the polar meridian trench. Each one is about 10.5 metres wide.

  • @WorthlessDeadEnd
    @WorthlessDeadEnd 5 лет назад +1

    1:57 - *_"KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!"_*

  • @UK8864
    @UK8864 5 лет назад

    Wow. Thanks for the excellent summary. Now I got to read it. This should have been EP 1.

  • @danielrhodes7594
    @danielrhodes7594 5 лет назад

    I liked the video as it relates to the book :"Master and Apprentice"

  • @Werrf1
    @Werrf1 3 года назад

    Qui-Gon should have joined the council. He was selfish to refuse.
    The Council's biggest problem throughout the prequels period was that they were an echo chamber. There was never any serious disagreement between them - they all thought the way Yoda wanted them to think. They desperately _needed_ diverse and unorthodox voices. The offer to Qui-Gon was their attempt to achieve this, an attempt that Yoda had voted against. That fact alone shows why Qui-Gon needed to be there.

  • @alexanderandrew6535
    @alexanderandrew6535 5 лет назад

    Is there a video/ story about how exactly qui gon learned to become force ghost? Since he is the one who teached yoda or smth along those lines

  • @tlreclipse1126
    @tlreclipse1126 4 года назад

    Cause he was a BOSS!
    It's also possible with him on the Council it would be far easier to control his actions.

  • @Praxama
    @Praxama 5 лет назад

    Great vid dude

  • @ComicgeddonTV
    @ComicgeddonTV 5 лет назад

    Yoda even admits that he didn't want him on the council in that book.

  • @danielmadsen8047
    @danielmadsen8047 5 лет назад +3

    Theres always a bigger fish

  • @WasoTremere
    @WasoTremere 2 года назад +1

    Music always kills me. This one was between Double Dragon and 80's porn 😂

    • @GenerationTech
      @GenerationTech  2 года назад

      That’s a great description of the vibe we’re going for

  • @prdalien0
    @prdalien0 5 лет назад +1

    Well he probably didn't want to join the High jedi council because he doesn't like that Dagobah green.

  • @grey0815
    @grey0815 5 лет назад +1

    Where is the clip at 4:20 from?

  • @RememberTrueStyle
    @RememberTrueStyle 2 года назад

    Thank you! This is very true of the spiritual people on Earth now, few are really aligned to the will of the Higher Self / GodSource, (or the will of the Force as Star Wars call it)

  • @Mystickneon
    @Mystickneon 5 лет назад

    Ben commands the Legion of Gingers, Allen! RUN! RUN UNTIL YOU CAN'T RUN ANYMORE!!

  • @MozartificeR
    @MozartificeR 5 лет назад +3

    The Dark Side has blinded their vision...

  • @dannyd464
    @dannyd464 5 лет назад +1

    Because he had a certain set of skills and he had people to find and kill ?

  • @JamieS1992
    @JamieS1992 4 года назад +2

    3:39 hmm johnny depp

  • @MisterAaft
    @MisterAaft 4 года назад

    Awsm video, very interesting!

  • @coltonmiller3039
    @coltonmiller3039 4 года назад

    What are the four spirals of the Jedi temple

  • @QueenLiliTheRed
    @QueenLiliTheRed 3 года назад

    Qui Gon Jinn is underrated

  • @sheevbinksthewise2781
    @sheevbinksthewise2781 5 лет назад +9

    Hah I beat the notification

  • @kadeembilal3047
    @kadeembilal3047 3 года назад

    Qui gon Jin was a Jedi knight but he was a Jedi knight on his own terms qui gun Jin was a lone wolf he could not be controlled by the sith but couldn’t be controlled by the Jedi council either he answered in a good way he was pure of heart saw good in every good way one the Jedi council wanted him to submit to the the Jedi council to the high ranking masters qui gon Jin he a great connection to the force was a man of God and an instrument god not the tool of man.

  • @ilcontraversientertainment3689
    @ilcontraversientertainment3689 5 лет назад

    isn't it funny that ewan mcgregor, who plays obi wan kenobi, apprentice of qui gon jinn in The Phantom Menace, also stars in the movie Big Fish, and that the title Big Fish is not published as "biggest fish" therefore implying the existence of a bigger fish?

  • @lamajigmeg
    @lamajigmeg 5 лет назад +1

    oh how i love qui gon jinn

  • @thorshammer7883
    @thorshammer7883 5 лет назад +6

    The Forerunners (Halo) vs The Imperium of Man (Warhammer 40k).

    • @nerowulfee9210
      @nerowulfee9210 5 лет назад +2

      Forerunners, they can actually produce their hi-tech shit on large scale. 30k Imperium before heresy, on the other hand...

    • @cheesaliciousable
      @cheesaliciousable 5 лет назад +1

      40k before the dark age of technology...
      Forerunners had trouble with the flood... imagine the time they'd have faceing the Men of Iron

  • @chance79th77
    @chance79th77 3 года назад +1

    So Liam Nelson is the 🐐

  • @brianparker181
    @brianparker181 5 лет назад

    You should do a show on Zerka

  • @bosslax3162
    @bosslax3162 5 лет назад +1

    Dude everyone who is a real fan already knows this by now. Keep up

  • @Mordiaken
    @Mordiaken 4 года назад

    there's a random LOTR shot in this video =p 7:13

  • @manulibertas5619
    @manulibertas5619 5 лет назад +1

    I know he's played both roles but why the saruman clips? XD

    • @ShadeHeart94
      @ShadeHeart94 5 лет назад

      The real question is Y THE HECK NOT

  • @godkingaizen6621
    @godkingaizen6621 5 лет назад

    I wanna know how the Jedi were able fund third missions.

  • @ryansanico6539
    @ryansanico6539 5 лет назад

    This was great Allen great job.👍👍😍🤩

  • @AdachiSimp
    @AdachiSimp 5 лет назад

    now i kinda want Jhonny Depp as jedi or sith

  • @julianG1212
    @julianG1212 3 года назад

    Cause qui gon wasn’t afraid of the dark side and believed in redemption.

  • @tedrow70
    @tedrow70 Год назад

    Is this Jedi person named Rael you said?👀

  • @henrikandreason7261
    @henrikandreason7261 4 года назад

    Ooor, maybe that rule was based on the failure of Yoda taking on Dooku as an apprentice while sitting on the council?

  • @subtlegong2817
    @subtlegong2817 5 лет назад +1

    Liam Neeson needs to be in a good Star Wars movie

  • @therealcarlxii
    @therealcarlxii 5 лет назад +2

    Hello there...

  • @hardcore476
    @hardcore476 5 лет назад +2

    Yes a very big future the future of I Have The High Ground

  • @frankieramirez2834
    @frankieramirez2834 5 лет назад

    Damn the last time I was this early there was a smaller fish

  • @miguelsanchez-ir7do
    @miguelsanchez-ir7do 4 года назад

    Is that a Christmas tree in your video

  • @paul46403
    @paul46403 5 лет назад +1

    why Jonny Depps face

  • @jendersonmohammed443
    @jendersonmohammed443 4 года назад

    Very interesting!

  • @judsongaiden9878
    @judsongaiden9878 4 года назад

    9:27 "Rife," you mean.

  • @IsaiahAmos017
    @IsaiahAmos017 4 года назад

    Because he’s a bad ass that’s why if Chuck Norris was a Jedi he would be qui gon Jin in fact they are brothers

  • @andrewrankin5436
    @andrewrankin5436 4 года назад

    They simply didn’t want him on Jedi council because he believed and followed only the force and he was willing to go behind the Jedi council to train anakin skywalker they didn’t want him and didn’t believe in the path he was on and he also didn’t want anything to do with the Jedi council except for like asking to train anakin but they said no and when they said no he was going to go behind there backs and train him anyways and plus yoda and the council thought he was a fool with the path he went down and the way he did things and that he followed only the force even yoda told obi wan kenobi after he was killed

  • @misterm2590
    @misterm2590 Год назад

    Qui-gon would have been the best grandmaster.

  • @Onew92
    @Onew92 4 года назад

    Could anyone show me where i can find those interesting comics?

  • @podarogue8428
    @podarogue8428 3 года назад

    He didn't wanna smoke weed

  • @Morgantist
    @Morgantist 5 лет назад +1

    Why do you still have a Christmas tree up?

  • @Fenris77
    @Fenris77 5 лет назад +1

    "Golden age of the Jedi"???

    • @ShadeHeart94
      @ShadeHeart94 5 лет назад +1

      Ever play Civ 6? Like, You do something Great to get into a Golden Age... and then the rest of it can totally suck.

  • @alasdairhicks6731
    @alasdairhicks6731 4 года назад

    Saruman? Really?

  • @forrester791
    @forrester791 4 года назад

    Well luminarie undulie had an apprentice Harris offie band she was on the council

  • @shaundouglas2057
    @shaundouglas2057 3 года назад

    Bacause yoda smelt funny!

  • @mikumartikainen954
    @mikumartikainen954 3 года назад

    Darth saruman, greatest force sensitive demi god wizard.

  • @nobleman9393
    @nobleman9393 5 лет назад

    Qui-Gon Gin

  • @thatplatypusguy9146
    @thatplatypusguy9146 5 лет назад

    What is Master Chief was a Jedi

  • @milk-eg7xi
    @milk-eg7xi 4 года назад

    An Irishman lost in a galaxy far, far away.