I remember a comment from a fellow RC member when I 1st started. He said, Pete doesn’t matter how heavy the plane is if the CG is spot on it will fly. I like your videos no BS and to the point. 1st lesson for any beginners. CG can’t stress it enough. 2nd, pre-trip your plane before flights.
Hi! Tnx for the upload! At 3:52, u say that u have a tail heavy aircraft, but, if you are holding your airplane upside down, is it not actually nose heavy?
A simple tip for beginners indeed James I've been in rc flight about 2 years now have about 15 planes and always use that method before taking flight it never fails for solid cg my flying however sometimes is funny I absolutely love rc 😎👍🛩
Great video James, CG is definitely critical, and can change with every plane and wing type, along with gear up or down and battery size and placement, thanks for all these great tips👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼
James I like your approach to move around internal components instead of adding ballast. I know lots of guys that add ballast and it’s really wrong for aircraft. Weight to power ratio is critical and optimization of internal is the best approach. Of course for a single day of strong winds, ballast is okay but I often don’t fly those days and rather take out the boat or buggy!
see where my confusion is, some people say cg with gear down, others say gear up. my next confusion is on higher wing jets like say the f22, yak 130, gripen, f16 etc are those to be balanced upside down or right side up?
If the CG moves toward the tail when the gear is retracted, do it with the gear retracted. The plane is more stable on your fingertips if the vertical CG location is below them..
All Freewing, skynetic, and Flightline models manuals are available digital on the product page of the product 😉 so if it’s one of our products you still have a manual.
@@MotionRC yep, But this is a old plane Not one from Motion Rc, Have you signed the official secrets Act, With ref to the information i am after, Or is this only available for Motion Rc customers!? 😉
I use little plastic clear pads used to keep items from scratching furniture table tops and glue them on wing surface where CG points are....no need to look at where your fingers are.....just place them on pads....works great.
Some planes, like the F4U Corsair and the P-40 Warhawk, need to be CG’d with the landing gear retracted. After the maiden flight, I adjust the CG based on how much forward stick it takes to maintain level inverted flight. I like to hold just a touch of forward stick so that I can relax the pressure to descend and it reminds me to push harder to go up..
Beginners would REALLY need to know about retracts, extended or retracted. I don't think I've EVER had a manual specify one way or the other. Not even Freewing, always seemed like a significant omission by every manufacturer. It certainly can make a difference, depending on how the gear retract.
If you had nothing from the manufacturer regarding CG, then the spar would be my first choice to start from. Then I would apt to fly it nose heavy of that position first and work my way from there
you also forgot to mention the retracts having to be up vs down, and also explaining when there is a CG range and also heavier lipos vs lighter lipos.......just a thought.
The ultimate test is then done in the air: Go to a save height, cut the power, press the plane down at 45° and watch what it does. If it goes back to level flight very quickly, it is too stable and the CG could move a little back. If it slowly goes back it is perfectly stable for most planes. For aerobatic and 3D planes, it should stay at 45° -> Indifferent, that's where the fun starts 🙃 Edit: If it takes the nose down, land immediately and put some weight in the nose
i thought the 45 dgree test was done inverted? if the plane immediately nose dives its nose heavy, if it climbs its tail heavy, and if it has a slow nose down like quite slow, thats a good all around cg
I wish one day an EDF Jet based on a Black Project such as the Boeing Bird of Prey or as the possibly real F-19 Aurora, I would defenitley buy that, so pls...... I beg to Freewing or any developer to do that.
The T33 looks much better in silver! If cg is so important, why do so many manufacturers give the wrong location. Many people have crashed or near crashed planes because of incorrect information.
@@MotionRC Why are we all getting mixed results? Of course, this isn't an accurate statistical analysis and my planes have flown well given book cg, I just hear of so many people I respect having experiences that counter mine and yours. All that being said, I've only ever flown 6 planes. Pretty small sample size. Take care and thanks for your reply :) Nick
Please stop shouting, I have a volume control. It’s very irritating, on a positive note, spot on info, as said by another no BS. It’s good to see some one who knows what they are talking about.
I just use the eraser end of two pencils. More accurate than fingers
The real quick tip in the comments right here!
You can stuff those pencils in your nose and pretend to be an elephant too lol 🐘
Love the quick tips! Been in the hobby 35 years and love it when people are willing to share.
Beginner or expert always appreciate the information and tips.
I remember a comment from a fellow RC member when I 1st started. He said, Pete doesn’t matter how heavy the plane is if the CG is spot on it will fly. I like your videos no BS and to the point. 1st lesson for any beginners. CG can’t stress it enough. 2nd, pre-trip your plane before flights.
Thanks for the CG center of gravity tips. Just starting to learn more about rc model plane.
I always appreciate beginner tips because I am a novice with much to learn!!!
Nice work James! 💪thumbs 👍
thanks for your explanation. this is the easiest way when we do CG outside field.
The most important thing to do before each flight 👌🏻🤩
Hi! Tnx for the upload! At 3:52, u say that u have a tail heavy aircraft, but, if you are holding your airplane upside down, is it not actually nose heavy?
No. regardless if the plane is upside down or right side up, the weight of the tail is being pulled down by gravity. That's tail heavy
Another great tip James 👍🏻
A simple tip for beginners indeed James I've been in rc flight about 2 years now have about 15 planes and always use that method before taking flight it never fails for solid cg my flying however sometimes is funny I absolutely love rc 😎👍🛩
Man this was uploaded just when I needed to balance a plane
Love these tips James , awesome..👊👍
Thanks so much!
Great video James, CG is definitely critical, and can change with every plane and wing type, along with gear up or down and battery size and placement, thanks for all these great tips👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼
Thank you so much!! I’ve been trying to understand how to properly measure CG of my planes for many years but not sure exactly how to do it.👍
James I like your approach to move around internal components instead of adding ballast. I know lots of guys that add ballast and it’s really wrong for aircraft. Weight to power ratio is critical and optimization of internal is the best approach. Of course for a single day of strong winds, ballast is okay but I often don’t fly those days and rather take out the boat or buggy!
Thanks my man!
Great explanation James, lol I have the exact model ND colour scheme of the T33 as well 😁👌
thanks for your tips james,am aviation enthusiast in Kenya wishing to start my RC workshop,hope to communicate wit engineers like you
Brilliant video.
see where my confusion is, some people say cg with gear down, others say gear up. my next confusion is on higher wing jets like say the f22, yak 130, gripen, f16 etc are those to be balanced upside down or right side up?
If the CG moves toward the tail when the gear is retracted, do it with the gear retracted. The plane is more stable on your fingertips if the vertical CG location is below them..
This is great in the world of i have a manual or its marked on the plane. What about if you have nether??
All Freewing, skynetic, and Flightline models manuals are available digital on the product page of the product 😉 so if it’s one of our products you still have a manual.
@@MotionRC yep,
But this is a old plane Not one from Motion Rc, Have you signed the official secrets Act,
With ref to the information i am after, Or is this only available for Motion Rc customers!? 😉
you said so many times "CG", I'm going to dream of it 😂😂😂 thanks for the advice 👍🏻
Have more painting tutorials lol I want to win your guys March competition 😁
I use little plastic clear pads used to keep items from scratching furniture table tops and glue them on wing surface where CG points are....no need to look at where your fingers are.....just place them on pads....works great.
When is the henglong t 34 coming in stock
Some planes, like the F4U Corsair and the P-40 Warhawk, need to be CG’d with the landing gear retracted. After the maiden flight, I adjust the CG based on how much forward stick it takes to maintain level inverted flight. I like to hold just a touch of forward stick so that I can relax the pressure to descend and it reminds me to push harder to go up..
I put a button pin, cut the length and push it at the right CG spot on both sides, easy to feel your finger tips where CG is .
Forgive my ignorance but why move an inch forward from the marked CG?
He’s using the batteries weight to change and find the balance point/CG.
Beginners would REALLY need to know about retracts, extended or retracted. I don't think I've EVER had a manual specify one way or the other. Not even Freewing, always seemed like a significant omission by every manufacturer. It certainly can make a difference, depending on how the gear retract.
Personally, I always look for the CG with the retracts below, because when you land your tail gets heavy in many cases
Has FlightLine looked at making the T6 Texan II? I think the modern USN/USMC Primary trainer deserves it
Thanks👌👍
Is the statement " The main spar is generally the CG " a true statement ? If true dose it hold true for foamies that have spars ?
If you had nothing from the manufacturer regarding CG, then the spar would be my first choice to start from. Then I would apt to fly it nose heavy of that position first and work my way from there
what to do for homemade rc aircraft
Does it make a difference whether you don't turn the plane over with low wings?
in theory no, but having the weight below the wings is easier to manipulate
you also forgot to mention the retracts having to be up vs down, and also explaining when there is a CG range and also heavier lipos vs lighter lipos.......just a thought.
We could expand on it more in future videos.
Don’t forget to trim your finger nails before handling foam planes!! Love these videos James 👊👊
hahaha
I have a p51 Mustang with no instructions ,where should the CG be ?
How do you find CG when it a scratch built Airplane?, I've built a Bi Wing and need to know how to CG it.
I wish I could help you, but I never did that either.
The ultimate test is then done in the air: Go to a save height, cut the power, press the plane down at 45° and watch what it does.
If it goes back to level flight very quickly, it is too stable and the CG could move a little back. If it slowly goes back it is perfectly stable for most planes. For aerobatic and 3D planes, it should stay at 45° -> Indifferent, that's where the fun starts 🙃
Edit: If it takes the nose down, land immediately and put some weight in the nose
Good tip!
i thought the 45 dgree test was done inverted? if the plane immediately nose dives its nose heavy, if it climbs its tail heavy, and if it has a slow nose down like quite slow, thats a good all around cg
@@WickedMoto That should work the same way, but some planes might gain a lot of speed pretty quick. Gliders for example.
@@M0rdH0rst 45 degrees inverted climbing, not descending
My plane seems to fall on either sides, I tried a lot but it doesn't stay a little touch and it falls.
Any suggestions for me?
Ok what if its nose heavy and the battery is all the way to the back?
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HOLA!! EL PESO NO EQUILIBRADO DE UNA ALA MAS PESADA QUE LA OTRA , COMO CALCULAMOS EXISTE IUN METODO ?
Puede calcular esa medida con un dispositivo diferente, pero no es necesario para la mayoría de los aviones RC eléctricos de espuma. ¡Gracias por ver!
T 33 beautiful
I wish one day an EDF Jet based on a Black Project such as the Boeing Bird of Prey or as the possibly real F-19 Aurora, I would defenitley buy that, so pls...... I beg to Freewing or any developer to do that.
Never know what the future may hold
@@MotionRC Yes...... you're right.
James the landing gear got to be out... . I had a hell of a time with this plane .
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Appeared that the left side of ur jet wing was loose. I noticed a gap after u moved the battery forward!
(Or was it just me? 😳)
We need FW190D rc with large 3 propellor please! I will pay the $
doing CG from manuals is great, but how do i find CG for a homebrew RC plane?
Search for “cg_calc”..
The T33 looks much better in silver! If cg is so important, why do so many manufacturers give the wrong location. Many people have crashed or near crashed planes because of incorrect information.
Every video I have ever filmed had the CG at the book and they all flew great.
@@MotionRC Why are we all getting mixed results? Of course, this isn't an accurate statistical analysis and my planes have flown well given book cg, I just hear of so many people I respect having experiences that counter mine and yours. All that being said, I've only ever flown 6 planes. Pretty small sample size.
Take care and thanks for your reply :)
Nick
Ther is no way that u can find CG on mig-29 Fulcrum I have done everything
Think this is called the G spot in Eastern Europe, lol.
Never seen a cg machine?
Please stop shouting, I have a volume control. It’s very irritating, on a positive note, spot on info, as said by another no BS. It’s good to see some one who knows what they are talking about.
RUclips has a volume button, not sure what you mean but thanks for watching
The veteran guys don’t have any fingers left to do a manual CG find 😂