Archery Sights Ad Nauseum: UV Slider (Side Mount)
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- Опубликовано: 20 дек 2023
- Longform Video Essay Review of the Ultraview Slider.
Timecodes:
00:00: Intro
00:38: Get 'em While They're Hot
01:25: Disclosure: I don't lick boots
02:22: What is it, Why is it, and Why does it cost this much?
05:23: Open your wallets, you peasants
06:42: What's in the Box?
09:10: The Scope as Offered
10:08: The Sight Rail
10:33: Colors and Accessorization
10:45: We care about lefties, we swear
11:22: Mounting Options
13:28: Setup, Axes, and Adjustment
14:50: Weight a minute
15:15: No Metal Tapes?
17:24: Yardage Indicators (watch your fingers)
18:39: Yardage Adjustment and Rail Features
19:09: A Locking Lever that Works
20:02: Dualdial System for Windage and Elevation
21:55: Plastic, Fantastic?
22:40: Scope Compatibility
23:03: Scope/LED Module Features
23:33: Changing Scope Cartridges/Inserts
24:16: LED Module Features
25:00: 3-Pin Stacked Vertical Pin Insert
26:04: Who?
26:24: No More Half-Measures (Scope Edition)
27:01: A Criticism of RUclips "Reviewers"
28:42: Doing things differently, just like everyone else
32:34: Made in..........?????
33:58: Fit, Finish, and Build Quality
35:12: Brand New but Already Worn Out
36:00: Swapping in a new Dualdial Grip
37:23: Elevation Wheel
37:52: Screw It.......
38:52: Metal Finish
39:10: Scope Gripes
39:25: Unconventional Sighting-In Method
39:49: Custom Shop Now, Please
40:11: No More Half-Measures on Handedness
40:23: Dead Stop
40:31: Conclusion
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Great in-depth review. My favorite part about the sight is, the people practically giving away landslydes when they "upgrade".
Thank you for watching. Yeah, the secondhand market is wild. I very rarely buy new items unless I need to get them fast, but the new equipment coming out isn't any better than the stuff they're replacing. All the same, I also love the discount 👍
Where do I go to see the used stuff, I could use an sliding target sight
this is a great review. I am a left-handed shooter and after purchasing my UV slider it took them 6 months to ship me the sight and you can imagine my disappointment when i received my sight and it was the upside-down version of the right-handed sight. This made me feel like a second-class hunter and left disappointed in UV as there was nothing on their website showing this is how the left-handed version was made.
@@konnerlee5708 thank you for watching and for the kind words. I couldn't agree more.
I still can't figure out what they were thinking. I know the left handed market is small (I'm also left handed but I was taught to shoot right-handed), but if they are going to cater to it, then it should be with a purpose-built product and not a cop-out like this.
You can swap out cartridges with different arrow set ups in under a minute same as UV cartidges. From a engineering stand point its not difficult to make the pins adjustable but from a machinist standpoint you create a lot of weak points in your pin. The small screws that most companies use can easily strip, or snap. A static pin will always be more reliable and stronger. Just some of my reasoning why we went that route. Appericate the shot out and if you have any question always feel free to reach out!
Thank you for watching. You have a neat system going over there and I hope you have great success with it 👍
Awesome review !!! Thanks for all the great info. Since I'm a South-paw too, and I don't use a horizontal 3 pin scope, your review just made it a no-brainer , so I just bought an Landslyder AV-41 for half the price of the U.V Slider. Thanks Again !
Thank you for watching. I'm glad my video was helpful for you. I still can't believe they thought is always acceptable to flip over the sight and call it "left handed". The Landslyde is a great sight, and I hope you enjoy it 👍
I’m amazed with your honesty and well thought out approach;
Most people speak wonders and false facts since most of the time is some sort of reward behind scenes.
I really appreciate honest reviews like this, at the end of the day things are expensive and followers deserve the truth nothing else
Thank you for taking the time and effort I really appreciate it.
I’ll love to hear your opinion on the Canyon Pounder sight
Thank you for watching and for the kind words. I am glad you found the information useful.
I do not expect to be buying an Option Archery Canyon Pounder bow sight due to the price and because I do not use multi-pin sights, but the design appears to be solid and well-thought out. The ability to switch from multiple pins to a single pin sight picture makes the platform more versatile for different venues of hunting and target. So if that is something that is appealing to you, I believe they are the only company that offers it. If not, there are many other companies that offer excellent sights at a lower price point.
Thanks again for checking out my content and I hope you have a pleasant archery season.
You're the only archery reviewer I trust.
Thank you so much. I really appreciate the support.
This is the best real review out there
Thank you very much. I'm unencumbered by brand loyalty, so I try my best to call it like I see it 👍
Love your content, your honest view point and comparisons across the multiple offerings from various brands is second to none. Idk what your goals with youtube are but I think given your view point you could slice up portions of your various videos into shorts and get some more exposure if you so choose. Obviously you put a ton of effort into the review and your presentation which is a huge time commitment and additional time might not align with your goals and the other stuff you have going on. I was just thinking you deserve more exposure. I found you over on AT and enjoy you quite a bit.
Thank you very much for watching and for the kind words. Also, thank you for the suggestion to cut up some clips and put them out as shorts. That's a good idea and I think I'm gonna start working on that.
My goal with this channel is to be something of an "anti-influencer" and offer as much information, positive and negative about a product as I can compile. I'm also planning on letting the channel grow naturally without any artificial inflation of my subs and views. I know some people buy views and subscribers to look larger, and I find that distasteful.
So, in any case, you're right and I need to started making Shorts.
One sight I would love to see your review on is the CBE Trek pro micro 3V - One of those three pin vertical slider sites with adjustable pins. I find it, sturdy, lightweight for a slider, and reasonably priced at $350 from CBE. The one thing I don’t like about it is that the middle pin is fixed and centered in the middle of the housing so the top pin cannot be centered in the middle of the housing. So, I just removed the top pin and have a two pin with the top pin, always in the middle of the housing, because anal. Two pins is plenty for my Northeast hunting And they do make a V2, but it has fixed pins. This was the review I was waiting for for the Ultraview slider - Thanks for doing what you do.
Thank you very much for watching and for the kind words. I'll check out the CBE Trek and maybe put it on the list for an analysis.
Nice job, I always enjoy your thorough reviews! 😊
Thank you very much, Larry. I'm glad you are enjoying them. There's no shortage of things to talk about in the archery world, so i'll keep them coming 👍
I recently received my uv slider and have been watching videos on it to best figure it out, which led me to your review. As far as reviews go, brother you flat put it out there. Probably the best review of a product I’ve ever seen. With that being said it was the longest 40 minutes of my life, I don’t think you ever once changed the tone of your voice, which is not the most pleasing, sorry just being honest. I need some emotion and a change of scenery every now and then, it’s you and that wall of releases pretty much the entire video, not good. One more thing that might help your videos, stop cutting them up so much, I thought there was a glitch in the matrix. Best of luck and hope to see improvement on the next one.
Thank you for watching and for the constructive criticism. I don't have staff like the bigger channels to do my editing, production and camera work. So I'm doing the best I can.
I can't guarantee I'm going to change things, since my goal is to provide information instead of infotainment, and evaluating things objectively can be pretty dry. The most emotion you'll see out of me is when I'm annoyed a manufacturer is trying to get away with something. I'm equally as deadpan in real life as I am in front of a camera.
I write my scripts and format my videos so they can be listened to more than watched, and I recently started adding a foreword saying you can pop in earbuds and listen to them like a podcast and not miss anything. So feel free to forego the visual element if it looks too choppy.
It's not easy reading from a script, and I'm only good for up to 60 seconds before I start flubbing my delivery. So the editing is to cut out breathing, stammering, verbal pauses, and it's where one written segment stops and the next one begins.
Slowly but surely my production value will improve, and I do value the suggestions.
Anyway, thank you again and I am glad you found the information useful.
Another great review. Love your honesty and wit. My new go to for truly honest reviews. I got both Landslyde and Tetra Max. I’ll be sticking with them. Pondered purchasing this sight but this helped me make a more informed decision. Thank you!
Thank you very much. I'm glad my video was helpful to you. The Landslyde and Tetra Max are solid options and function exactly as they are advertised. New toys are fun, but no need to replace that which is not broken 👍
Great review!!!
Just got my version 3 UV slider and agree with everything you said.
I got a LH model and replaced the 3 pin with double up pin. Good sight but not $600+ good.
Thank you and thanks for watching. I think if they come out with an actual LH version, they should let you return the one you got and replace it with a proper LH. That s#!t still bugs me.
No independent 2nd axis adjustment is a dealbreaker for me.
They need a 2.0 version of this ASAP.
Well done. Nice thorough review. I tend to stay away from UV as I am not convinced by their QC and designs are a bit funky for me. What you say makes sense for a small manufacturer that seems to struggle with really high quality production at scale
Thank you for watching. I can sympathize with them to a much smaller extent when prototypes don't translate into production models without any hiccups. However, they do it to themselves sometimes by going cheap on the parts and probably using power tools to speed up assembly.
very well said
Thank you very much 👍
Would you please consider reviewing the new CBE trek pro 3v sight?
There is not much talk about the sight, and what little is out there is all positive. I am strongly considering it for my next hunting sight, but I would greatly appreciate your thoughts on the matter, since your opinion is one of the only subjective views in the online community.
I sincerely appreciate the effort you put in 👍 Fantastic stuff
Thank you for watching and for the kind words. I'll see what I can do. I just paid a heap of estimated taxes and need to let my bank account recover for a bit. If I see one in the classifieds, I'll pick it up and give it a once-over.
I have mounted a UV3 scope on my Hogg Father, I'm not looking anywhere else any time soon.
The fixed middle pin on the UV is so you can swap cartridges without changing your zero. No need to redo sighttapes/marks when you decide to put a lens in for outdoor target or, need a single aiming reference if you decide to step onto the field course. I think it makes sense in that regard.
Nice to hear your opinion on it!
Thanks for watching and for clarifying on why the center pin is fixed. That makes a lot of sense and I hadn't considered that.
The Hogg Father has been on the market for a while and for good reason. I'm glad you found a sight that does everything you need 👍.
@@ajbholsters2035 I feel it's overlooked lately. Still the only sight that has micro elevation with a yardage wheel. It definitely does all I need it to. I shoot field target and 3D, sadly we can't hunt though.
I really like your voice of reason in the heated and opinionated archery RUclips atmosphere.
@@Rikcey thank you very much for the support. Most "reviewers" are just extensions of a company's marketing department or are dancing for clicks and views. Consequently they tend not to give an objective analysis of the product. I figured I could balance that out a bit and break down the good and the bad so customers have an idea of what they're getting.
I'm glad individuals like yourself are finding it useful.
I should have some new content out soon.
Thanks again 👍
Completely agree with your take on this slider and scope. My 3 biggest complaints are...
1- No adjustable, vertical 3 pin.
2- When purchasing the slider without the scope , the hardware for mounting previous ultraview scopes is not included.
3- Windage detent adjustments need to be finer for longer range shots.
The one thing I find most intriguing about this slider is the option to run double sight tapes. I shoot a hybrid hunting target bow and I like the fact that I can have my bow sighted with 75# or 80# mods for hunting and by just changing a mod be sighted to shoot target at 60# or 65# ...What are your thoughts on this?
But I'm probably holding off until they make a vertical 3 pin with independent adjustability....just my preference
Thank you very much for watching.
I don't see why you couldn't run one tape on one side for a certain draw weight and then run a second tape on the other side for a lower draw weight. As long as you are using the same arrows, there shouldn't be anything else to tweak. You'd be over spined at the lower draw weight, but stiffer is better than weaker, and I've shot .200 spine target shafts out of a 50# bow and still hit where I was aiming.
I’m interested to hear your thoughts on the Black Gold sights. Been running one for years. I live in MT, so I have a bias, but “overbuilt” seems to be a fitting descriptor.
Thank you for checking out my video. Yes, a video on the MBG Competition sight is in the pipeline. It's a hell of a piece of machinery 👍
I have a slider from batch 3 as well and windage is the same way.
Hello, and thank you for letting me know about the windage knob. While it's not the worst thing that could be wrong with the sight, I would have preferred if it functioned the way it was advertised.
Thanks for watching 👍
Awesome review, very much appreciated! Any thoughts why UV didn't take the time to do a detailed sight in video with one of their Pro reps rather than letting youtuber's explain the process to owners and future customers. Very disappointing IMHO and a lack of customer service by UV!
Thank you very much for watching.
Did they not offer any videos on sighting it in? I don't follow Chris Bee, but I would have thought he would have been all over that. I gave up on wondering about people's reasoning for making odd decisions when I stopped working on the mental health industry.
It's best not to waste brain power on figuring out why people do stupid things. There usually isn't a satisfying reason.
I think it's in the written instructions that come with the sight, but, regardless, it's not terribly complicated. It's just different having to center the 30 pin first and adjust the 20 and 40 second.
Concur wholeheartedly! Thanks@@ajbholsters2035
One issue I found was the scope with the horizontal 3 plus bonus pin does not allow any magnification glass in conjunction with each other.
Only the vertical pin will allow the option of using magnification
That's an interesting point. I would think the pins that aren't centered in the lens would have issues with parallax and distortion of the sight picture. A stacked vertical pin set wouldn't be any better, unless there's another variable in haven't considered.
I guess I'll add that to my list of reasons why I don't understand the purpose of a multi pin scope on a slider sight 🤦.
So you mount the sight on the right side of a left hand bow, do you have enough left and right adjustment?
You would mount the sight same way as a typical left-handed sight (on the opposite side of the riser as the arrow shelf). The issue is the controls are all inverted because they turned a right handed sight upside down and remounted the scope (which is ambidextrous but the stalks for the adjustable 3-Pin would be facing from outside-in).
So it's a very slapdash way of trying to cater to a left-handed customer without actually manufacturing the parts for a left-handed sight.
I say lower the price by $75 and lose the nice case and the magnetic cardboard box. Don’t think for one second we are not paying for that crap that we will never use again. I would rather you send it to me in bubble wrap and charge me $75 less
I can't argue with that. I can't say I care in what packaging it shows up, especially if it has to be stored and not used.
What is your recommended spot and stalk hunting sight if price isn’t a factor?
I currently have a black gold dual trac which I like but want at least one more pin. I do like the vertical vs horizontal pin configuration but it’s not a deal breaker.
@@jacobmartin1212 a sight that caught my eye recently was the CBE Trek Pro V3. It has a vertical pin stack with three pins that are independently adjustable. So you'd have a fixed 20/30/40 setup, and you can set one as a floater and use the metal sight tapes to dial in longer distances (depending on how far you plan on loosing arrows or if you do any 3D or target). Trophy Ridge has one with 5 adjustable vertical pins called the Livewire, though I don't think it's still made. There are tons of options available and I don't think there are any bad ones.
Of course, if electronics are legal in your state for hunting, a Burris Oracle would be a great option for spot and stalk once you have it set up.
Stan Lynx video coming soon?
Hello. Yes, I should finish editing it today and will hopefully get it posted by the end of the day. The last few weeks have been hectic with the holidays and my work schedule. I also had to dissect some dubious claims made during the LAS video about it 😈.
Can you do a video on how to make it a left hand?
I may touch on it in my next video. The most complicated part is rearranging the parts of the scope.
Update?
Sorry, nothing yet. I've been too busy to get it set up on a bow. I will post a follow-up as soon as I can.
Although there is some unique features, I think they’re way overpriced!
If we could piecemeal together the components we actually want, it could potentially be less expensive. But in any case, the pricing is getting prohibitive. Thankfully there are less expensive options that perform the same function.
Can you please edit your sound so your s’ don’t clip the mic continuously. Not sure if you have a foam or feather wind blocker but it’s so annoying. Otherwise, great video, thanks. Just want to watch the rest of your videos without being annoyed
Thanks for watching. I'll see what I can do to fix my audio in future content. I do all the editing myself and audio/video is not in my background.
I'm hoping most people can see the ( I don't know whether or not I'm aloud to do a video on this product but I'm going to anyway)line is total bull shit,
The more utube creators try and insult people intelligence with these kind of lies the more it makes you wonder how much of their content is actually a load of crap.
When I heard him say that, all I could think of was the Radio Shock Jock era where they claim to have broken into the boss's office and stole concert tickets that they're going to give away to the 4th caller. It's all performative nonsense and I find it annoyingly fake.