I’ve been a Ford customer since the early 90’s. My last Ford was a new 2021 f150 ice. It had a bearing noise since new that the service rep said was normal. It was embarrassing…I sold it on Carvana 6 months after I had it. A previous 2010 Fusion 3.0L dropped a valve and grenaded the engine at 62k miles. Just past the power train warranty. I’m done with Ford. They have fallen a ling way and appear lost. Lots if probs with the 5.4L truck motors and the list goes on and on.
whelp I'm watching this video as one of the Mach e that stopped working before the recall. and talking to the dealership and ford service. they haven't shipped any of the parts yet. im sitting with a brick. will try to turn it on after some time again to see if it gets better.
Ford historically works this way so no surprise here. Instead of nipping a problem in the bud and getting it over with they often delay in order to find the absolute cheapest solution while still manufacturing vehicles with the defect unless NHTSA forces the issue. One primary example of this that I have commented on in the past was when their hydraulic brake switches were found to be a problem causing fires since the switches were defective and prone to leaking which impacted almost every vehicle they made (car, light truck, van, SUV, Medium Duty Truck or Ambulance/Motor Home) gas or diesel for around a decade. A rational person would have just started installing a higher quality switch that would be less likely to leak in all new vehicles and recalled the few vehicles with the defective switch to upgrade them to a safer switch however those were deemed too expensive a fix so that dragged this on for years eventually coming up with a fix that fixed really nothing but just made it safer by installing a very inexpensive jumper cable with a fuse in it on the known defective switch so that the fuse would blow whenever the switch failed badly enough to short out the wiring harness causing a fire and the more major repair of replacing the hydraulic switch along with the brake fluid contaminated fuse holder then would become the owners problem with Ford now making a profit on the sale if yet another defective switch along with additional profit for a new fused harness adapter. This impacted many hundreds of thousands if not millions of vehicles by the time they found a cheap enough quasi-fix for the problem. Their Motto prominently declared in just about every advertisement they put out at the time was "Ford where Quality is Job 1!" Well so much for Truth in Advertising. Anyways it doesn't look like much has improved for the better at Ford over the past 20 some odd years.
You are spot on. Maybe corporations will soon realize save a dime at the cost of a dollar is not very smart. My wife was a diehard Subaru fan, her 2018 Outback was her 4th Subaru. We bought 3 batteries before finding out some Subarus built around 2018 were draining the battery overnight. There never was a problem with the battery. We paid the dealer almost 300 usd for a software update that did nothing. The power windows started not working on and off. She traded it in for an 2021 Acura RDX, but still misses her Subaru. After a class action lawsuit Subaru is going to pay out for this problem. Too late. My wife will NEVER buy another Subaru. I didn't even put in for the settlement because it will be pennies on the dollar after the lawyers get their money. So long Subaru forever.
This is now starting to happen in the UK, had my recall letter yesterday 27/12/23 and they will contact me when they have the part, it will cover the replacement junction box and labour plus a loan car which they will drop off when they pick up my car free of charge, i have a match e long range so big battery rear wheel drive.
Uh does anyone remember that all the reviewers for the Mach-E GT were upset when they found they could only get full power for 5 seconds? Did Ford knowingly ship these cars with a problem that they thought they could fix by limiting how long you could get full power? Uh I smell a lawsuit if this should turn out to be true.
I think that you are correct. They discovered late in the development cycle that the contactors weren't up to snuff and they decided to limit power rather than do a design change. Question is if they'll no longer limit power as much. There is already a lawsuit about this very issue in the U.S.
Buy a GT performance, it is the best car that Ford has ever produced. The contactor recall includes two year old cars and the newer models are not included. You won't be sorry.
So, let me get this straight, there has been 101 Mach e cars that have actually had a melt down of the electric contactors, out of nearly 35,000 vehicles that "could be" effected. Ford obviously has reengineered the contactors in the newer models since June of 2022. A recall is forthcoming for those equipped with the earlier technology, which includes my GT Performance. Until then, I will continue to enjoy the best car I have ever driven. I rarely take long trips that would require high voltage DC charging, but I am not afraid to unbridle it on a regular basis. I don't care that it throttles down a bit after 6 seconds of full power, because by then I am doing nearly 100 mph where I could get into serious trouble on a public highway. It is a luxury sports-car that I have no intention of flogging at a track day. I have a Ducati for that.
Ford will figure out their battery issues, and any other problems, just as Tesla, GM, BYD, and every other auto maker has. Let's not bag on Ford, they're doing the right thing by investing in EV tech and selling a lot of EV's.
I agree, Ford is doing the right thing. However Ford seems to have been aware of this issue before releasing the GT version. They limited full power in the GT to only 5 seconds. After that it slows down on its own. All the reviewers who took it on the track commented on how disappointing this was. Now we may know why. I think Ford should not have shipped the GT and other Mach-E versions without fixing this issue..... assuming they knew.... which IMO they did given the enforced power drop. Unfortunately for Ford, this may not only be solved by a very expensive recall (lots of labor if this requires dropping the battery pack and replace these parts) but may end up in law suits for knowingly selling defective vehicles. Tesla may have avoided this particular issue because they started out by making a performance EV... the roadster. Tesla probably would have encountered this problem way back and engineered a solution then before getting into mass market cars.
I would probably hold off, unless you are ok going to the dealer a lot. or you get a smoking deal on one and don't mind the inconvenience of the repairs.
Drop the battery, swap out the box, which plugs in; road test. Why should that take more than an hour?? Seems like a software fix would let you drive in the meantime. Limit the charging rate and the WOT, and that relay won't burn up. The way I'd charge and drive, it would last forever.
I’ve had a Tesla since 2014. I am ready to buy another EV. that has the following: V2H, ISO 15118-20, LFP, NACS, >75kWh, $7500 tax credit, > 8” clearance (ride height),
I have had several ford products, the last 4 were total garbage. Ford builds whatever makes them profit and then when it fails cries poor when it’s recalled. My Mach e was a lemon, had this problem and they gaslit me on the severity of it . The software upgrade did not fix the issue. It reduced the kWh of fast charging. Ford refuses to rent you an equivalent car they allow $40 usd a day that does not get you a scooter in California. They fight everything . Yet can pay Jim Farley $30 million a year to sink the company, lie and cheat their customers, try to under pay their employees , take taxpayer funds to allegedly build a battery plant with a Chinese partner , then stop that factory to cry poor because their workers are striking for fair pay. They should throw out the top brass and save this company or close the doors! DONT BUY ANY NEW FORD ! You will regret it!
Why do people persevere with Ford, they've had terrible quality issues for many years, they even say Fix Or Repair Daily, I've known that for 20 years, yet people keep getting caught with the marketing B/S
Why would anyone ,including a Ford employee, get a Ford E?. Does Ford have the best EV and most experienced engineers, are exclusively serious about evs,, have a continuous improvement program during manufacturing and have the technical capabilities to make a really good product. (compare the thermal management system of the Mach E with the Tesla Model Y Munro Live youtube) . We know they don't . Buy an ev from a company that only makes and sells evs and has the motivation to do so to improve the world, especially the environment.
maybe Ford shouldn't have used the Mustang brand for their first performance EV, and take risks with one of their other model names instead, like the Taurus for example.
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@@jamesvandamme7786 LUTON WAS AN BATTERY FIRE IN EV-HYBRID, PARIS WAS AN EV, SEATTLE WAS AN EV, LAS VEGAS WAS AN EV, AUSTIN WAS AN EV............. PRO-EV PERVS NEED TO QUIT THEIR LYING TO THEMSELVES & TO REST OF WORLD.
@@jamesvandamme7786 I can't wait till EVs are recognized as the Worst idea ever conceived by Woke & they are flushed down the toilet in historical archives.
First recall didn't work??? The whole EV concept doesn't work in the real world anymore... In the UK, insurance companies are wising up, and premiums are going up to the tune of 1000% for Extremely Volatile cars... Some insurance companies are even pulling out of the Extremely Volatile car market altogether. There's little point owning an EV if you can't afford (or even get) any form of insurance cover 🤣
this is not wholly true , my mache insurance which i only got about a month ago is 55 a month for the long range and only 20 more a month than i was paying on the Niro EV ,
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I’ve been a Ford customer since the early 90’s. My last Ford was a new 2021 f150 ice. It had a bearing noise since new that the service rep said was normal. It was embarrassing…I sold it on Carvana 6 months after I had it. A previous 2010 Fusion 3.0L dropped a valve and grenaded the engine at 62k miles. Just past the power train warranty. I’m done with Ford. They have fallen a ling way and appear lost. Lots if probs with the 5.4L truck motors and the list goes on and on.
whelp I'm watching this video as one of the Mach e that stopped working before the recall. and talking to the dealership and ford service. they haven't shipped any of the parts yet. im sitting with a brick. will try to turn it on after some time again to see if it gets better.
Ford historically works this way so no surprise here. Instead of nipping a problem in the bud and getting it over with they often delay in order to find the absolute cheapest solution while still manufacturing vehicles with the defect unless NHTSA forces the issue.
One primary example of this that I have commented on in the past was when their hydraulic brake switches were found to be a problem causing fires since the switches were defective and prone to leaking which impacted almost every vehicle they made (car, light truck, van, SUV, Medium Duty Truck or Ambulance/Motor Home) gas or diesel for around a decade. A rational person would have just started installing a higher quality switch that would be less likely to leak in all new vehicles and recalled the few vehicles with the defective switch to upgrade them to a safer switch however those were deemed too expensive a fix so that dragged this on for years eventually coming up with a fix that fixed really nothing but just made it safer by installing a very inexpensive jumper cable with a fuse in it on the known defective switch so that the fuse would blow whenever the switch failed badly enough to short out the wiring harness causing a fire and the more major repair of replacing the hydraulic switch along with the brake fluid contaminated fuse holder then would become the owners problem with Ford now making a profit on the sale if yet another defective switch along with additional profit for a new fused harness adapter. This impacted many hundreds of thousands if not millions of vehicles by the time they found a cheap enough quasi-fix for the problem.
Their Motto prominently declared in just about every advertisement they put out at the time was "Ford where Quality is Job 1!" Well so much for Truth in Advertising.
Anyways it doesn't look like much has improved for the better at Ford over the past 20 some odd years.
You are spot on. Maybe corporations will soon realize save a dime at the cost of a dollar is not very smart. My wife was a diehard Subaru fan, her 2018 Outback was her 4th Subaru. We bought 3 batteries before finding out some Subarus built around 2018 were draining the battery overnight. There never was a problem with the battery. We paid the dealer almost 300 usd for a software update that did nothing. The power windows started not working on and off. She traded it in for an 2021 Acura RDX, but still misses her Subaru. After a class action lawsuit Subaru is going to pay out for this problem. Too late. My wife will NEVER buy another Subaru. I didn't even put in for the settlement because it will be pennies on the dollar after the lawyers get their money. So long Subaru forever.
This is now starting to happen in the UK, had my recall letter yesterday 27/12/23 and they will contact me when they have the part, it will cover the replacement junction box and labour plus a loan car which they will drop off when they pick up my car free of charge, i have a match e long range so big battery rear wheel drive.
Uh does anyone remember that all the reviewers for the Mach-E GT were upset when they found they could only get full power for 5 seconds?
Did Ford knowingly ship these cars with a problem that they thought they could fix by limiting how long you could get full power?
Uh I smell a lawsuit if this should turn out to be true.
I think that you are correct. They discovered late in the development cycle that the contactors weren't up to snuff and they decided to limit power rather than do a design change. Question is if they'll no longer limit power as much. There is already a lawsuit about this very issue in the U.S.
Well I guess Ford is #1 at something and is battling hard to keep this ranking. Well played. /s
If Ford got serious and proved the Mach-e to clear inventory, I might buy one.
I just bought one with a warranty. All mass produced cars have recalls and have a chance of being a lemon. That’s why warranties are there lol
Buy a GT performance, it is the best car that Ford has ever produced. The contactor recall includes two year old cars and the newer models are not included. You won't be sorry.
So, let me get this straight, there has been 101 Mach e cars that have actually had a melt down of the electric contactors, out of nearly 35,000 vehicles that "could be" effected. Ford obviously has reengineered the contactors in the newer models since June of 2022. A recall is forthcoming for those equipped with the earlier technology, which includes my GT Performance. Until then, I will continue to enjoy the best car I have ever driven. I rarely take long trips that would require high voltage DC charging, but I am not afraid to unbridle it on a regular basis. I don't care that it throttles down a bit after 6 seconds of full power, because by then I am doing nearly 100 mph where I could get into serious trouble on a public highway. It is a luxury sports-car that I have no intention of flogging at a track day. I have a Ducati for that.
If I could get one I don't think I would cheers mate
Ford will figure out their battery issues, and any other problems, just as Tesla, GM, BYD, and every other auto maker has. Let's not bag on Ford, they're doing the right thing by investing in EV tech and selling a lot of EV's.
Ford waited too long to get out of the autonomous vehicle joke until billions was lost. They should have quit EVs also.
I agree, Ford is doing the right thing. However Ford seems to have been aware of this issue before releasing the GT version. They limited full power in the GT to only 5 seconds. After that it slows down on its own. All the reviewers who took it on the track commented on how disappointing this was. Now we may know why.
I think Ford should not have shipped the GT and other Mach-E versions without fixing this issue..... assuming they knew.... which IMO they did given the enforced power drop.
Unfortunately for Ford, this may not only be solved by a very expensive recall (lots of labor if this requires dropping the battery pack and replace these parts) but may end up in law suits for knowingly selling defective vehicles.
Tesla may have avoided this particular issue because they started out by making a performance EV... the roadster. Tesla probably would have encountered this problem way back and engineered a solution then before getting into mass market cars.
I would probably hold off, unless you are ok going to the dealer a lot. or you get a smoking deal on one and don't mind the inconvenience of the repairs.
Morning mate
Drop the battery, swap out the box, which plugs in; road test. Why should that take more than an hour??
Seems like a software fix would let you drive in the meantime. Limit the charging rate and the WOT, and that relay won't burn up. The way I'd charge and drive, it would last forever.
It is a major job to remove the battery from any EV. You should find a few videos of the procedure and become informed
@@scottbrown7415 Nio is running battery swap stations in China. Five minutes.
I’ve had a Tesla since 2014. I am ready to buy another EV. that has the following: V2H, ISO 15118-20, LFP, NACS, >75kWh, $7500 tax credit, > 8” clearance (ride height),
Noooooo lol. That’s what happens when you do a rush job.
Nope on the Ford consideration.
"Found On Road Dead" is not an exaggeration.
This guy is clever. He alternated his videos on praising, trashing and coping on EV's therefore covering all possibilities on the algorithm
He’s not clever at all lol
I have had several ford products, the last 4 were total garbage. Ford builds whatever makes them profit and then when it fails cries poor when it’s recalled. My Mach e was a lemon, had this problem and they gaslit me on the severity of it . The software upgrade did not fix the issue. It reduced the kWh of fast charging. Ford refuses to rent you an equivalent car they allow $40 usd a day that does not get you a scooter in California. They fight everything . Yet can pay Jim Farley $30 million a year to sink the company, lie and cheat their customers, try to under pay their employees , take taxpayer funds to allegedly build a battery plant with a Chinese partner , then stop that factory to cry poor because their workers are striking for fair pay. They should throw out the top brass and save this company or close the doors! DONT BUY ANY NEW FORD ! You will regret it!
You don’t learn your lesson. Why keep buying Fords if they break on you?? Just stop 🤣
Why do people persevere with Ford, they've had terrible quality issues for many years, they even say Fix Or Repair Daily, I've known that for 20 years, yet people keep getting caught with the marketing B/S
It’s only a part that needs to be replaced. No big deal ya just love to overreact 💯🤣
Safety News about #ford #mustang #Mach_E #recall , listen to find out.
Why would anyone ,including a Ford employee, get a Ford E?. Does Ford have the best EV and most experienced engineers, are exclusively serious about evs,, have a continuous improvement program during manufacturing and have the technical capabilities to make a really good product. (compare the thermal management system of the Mach E with the Tesla Model Y Munro Live youtube) . We know they don't . Buy an ev from a company that only makes and sells evs and has the motivation to do so to improve the world, especially the environment.
too bad musk is a nazi sympathizer
EVs are bad for the environment.
@@rayellebishop8168 sure, if by “the environment” you mean the rich oil company yachts 🛥️ 😅
Fix Or Recall Daily
Ford. First on recall demand.
Yes, EV's.... Not much good.
Just ask Uncle Tony.
Yeah...just buy BEVs from US, European and Japanese legacy auto. 🤣🤣🤣
maybe Ford shouldn't have used the Mustang brand for their first performance EV, and take risks with one of their other model names instead, like the Taurus for example.
No I would never buy a F150.
NEWS FLASH: EV'S ARE SUCH FIRE HAZARDS THAT A BUNCH OF APARTMENTS IN USA WITH MULTI-LEVEL PARKING STRUCTURES ARE AFRAID OF THEIR INSURANCE BEING CANCELED
Buy & EV, have a Luton
Funny that those car park fires and ship fires weren't EVs after all, but that gets buried in the news.
@@jamesvandamme7786 LUTON WAS AN BATTERY FIRE IN EV-HYBRID, PARIS WAS AN EV, SEATTLE WAS AN EV, LAS VEGAS WAS AN EV, AUSTIN WAS AN EV............. PRO-EV PERVS NEED TO QUIT THEIR LYING TO THEMSELVES & TO REST OF WORLD.
@@jamesvandamme7786 I can't wait till EVs are recognized as the Worst idea ever conceived by Woke & they are flushed down the toilet in historical archives.
its not ev's that catch fire it is the phev's plug in hybrids and the Luton Airport fire was a land rover
@@marklocke5486 BATTERY WAS CAUSE OF FIRE AT LUTON
First recall didn't work??? The whole EV concept doesn't work in the real world anymore... In the UK, insurance companies are wising up, and premiums are going up to the tune of 1000% for Extremely Volatile cars... Some insurance companies are even pulling out of the Extremely Volatile car market altogether.
There's little point owning an EV if you can't afford (or even get) any form of insurance cover 🤣
Must suck over there lol
this is not wholly true , my mache insurance which i only got about a month ago is 55 a month for the long range and only 20 more a month than i was paying on the Niro EV ,