I was a university student from 2001 to 2006 in the heyday of Nokia phones. I travelled 4 hours by train every second weekend or so back home for the weekend and back to school. What I used to do on train is to make melodies on request for fellow riders who had Nokia phones. In later years I composed midi files on computer and I was able to beam them using IR port. I even went so far to optimize for various phones (various Nokias and SonyEricssons were the most popular). Shortly after mp3 ringtones came in and suddenly everybody could use any song they liked so my little claim to fame went out :D
Well, that's very interesting! I have this Nokia 3220, where i live, 2g is still around until 2035 or something like that, i also have a nokia with 2g, bluetooth and irda, so i could, in theory, send a song over from my pc to this nokia, then send it through mms to my 3220, and have ringtones that way, but i don't know how to optimize ringtones for phones! Because if i send over a standard midi tone, the phone's disco lighting doesn't react to the "beat" like the original nokia ringtones do in the tones folder! Can you help me or at least, point me in the right direction? Or do you happen to have ringtones for this very particular phone? Greetings my man
@@bramvandenbroeck5060 what you'd need to do is to open the midi file in a midi editor (Vakewalk is free) and you'd need to find out which specific midi messages control the lights (I remember there used to be a pretty extensive documentation on midi implementation for Nokia phones). There was Kao this software called Nokia midi suite or something like that where you could optimize the ringtone for your phone (rather poorly) and add the special effects. Now these thing being already 20 years old I'm not sure if any of them is even still available. I might have something on my very old disk but I'm not sure if I'll have time to dig it out
Wow, what a blast from the past. I was also a DCT-3 hacker back in the day. I concentrated more on the PPM, I wanted to sideload java games onto my 3410 as it only supported WAP install. I reverse engineered the whole damned memory structure and it was eye opening to see that deleting SMS, contacts and call logs etc just set a "deleted" bit. I was contacted by a police force who had used my program to analyse a suspects phone dump they'd taken. He'd factory reset everything but it was all still there and it quickly confirmed to the police that they had the right man and it was worth getting the logs from the network operator as evidence. I think he described it as "bloody magic" how the phone appeared empty but then they could see the SMS conversations on "the night in question". Resetting FAID was the key to 3310 etc hacking, I forget who cracked that, but yeah, that opened the whole scene right up.
Wow! What a story! I wonder if deleting still works like that on modern tech, but probably not, i'm pretty sure... Anyway, kudos to you, you must have been proud!
@@raphaelkgh218 Depending on the operating system, it still somewhat does. On Linux as well as Windows you have the option to format a partition by setting every bit to 0. This ensures that even if you get your hands on the data storage itself (whether it's a platter of HDD or chip from flash/SSD) the only thing you will read is all the 0 bits. Deleting files sometimes just marks the file as deleted by the OS, but with external tools you can still find some files and recover them.
I wrote a DCT3 unlocker shell in VB6 and posted it in Nokiafree under the same username I am here. If you can find it, I’d love to know. I was flying blind but I managed it (there were way too many shells, hah)😂
I'm very impressed by the work done in the Polish modding scene. It's great to go back and look at these roms. It must have been amazing to be a part of this scene in it's heyday.
My dad used to work for Telefónica back in the day and got the 3330 as soon as it came out. That little WAP browser was a hell of a battery drain. I remember browsing a lot on it during the summer when we were in our beach house (thanks to his corporate unlimited plan, mobile data was outrageously expensive back then). Had to be plugged in all the time. That pinball game was a blast too!
@@unlokia Oh yeah, makes sense. The WAP browser had to "connect" to the network every time it was launched. Makes a ton of sense that it was dialing into the telco on the background. Never tought about how WAP actually worked.
@@hrq007heheh yep. I tell Ya what though, it made one appreciate the internet FAR more when each session required all that palaver. Love these times so much. ❤
@@hrq007Not how WAP works but how mobile data on the 3330 works. It doesn't have GPRS so it literally had to call your provider and use dialup like 90s computers did. That also explains the battery draining. I have a 6310i which does have GPRS (which is the only thing that saves it from not working with modern cell carriers), but still only opens WAP sites, it would have been a blast to use back then but with today's prices for data lol
As an owner of the 3310 since 2001, I’ve always believed that the reason for placing the Screen Saver at the end of the Tones menu was simply because Tones copied the menu structure of Profiles. The options under Tones basically just allowed you to configure your active profile without having to go through a more tedious way via Profiles.
Yes, that's true. Screen savers were profile-specific, and and all the other profile-specific settings were about tones. Should screen savers put into separate place, there should have been equal separation in profile setting menu structure to maintain the consistency, which would have been next to impossible in any sensible way. It is questionable though to have redundant menus for profile settings (the per profile setup menu and the tones menu which was exact same for the active profile), because redundancies are the key to clumsy menu surfing and bad user experience (especially when redundancy is not comprehensively and consistently similar in all redundant instances, which is the plaque in modern UI design fashion), but at least in that case the consistency had been maintained. And it is understandable that as the profiles functionality was added on top of the UI of earlier models without it, they didn't remove the traditional tones menu you had with older models with no profiles. So it was actually the beginning of convolution into today's confusing UIs, but little in significance enough to still allow the perfect surfing-thru all the menus without too much redundancies or inconsistencies making you bored or confused.
How about people already fiddled with the ringtone settings and that's about all they knew. New shiny screensaver tech? Add it where people look for settings to change.
@@TheSimocthat's the dreaded technical debt that plagued all software because removing things is really hard, you never know what might break or who uses the feature.
@@monad_tcp Yes, and on the other hand, too many devs are nowadays also too eager to remove useful features, and let things break, without caring too much about UX.
I loved those old Nokias back in the day. I went through a few of them because family would just swap with me for different ones. That screen in your background during the intro takes me back too. Logo manager. I used a lot more of that in the early 2000's with phones that had infrared ports (like the 8210), as the laptop I had access to, had an IR on it. Easy to transfer a bunch of stuff over on my phone and my friends. Usually ringtones, pictures, and changing the operator logo from the carrier to whatever fit in that box. Then moved into using it for polyphonic ringtones and Java games on color screen phones like the 7250.
The Bumper game really took me back to my mom's Nokia 3410. Used to play that a lot in about 2003 or so. If you ever get a hold of Sony Ericsson phones from about 2006 to 2011, those had a modding scene too. I remember running Doom on my W910i and modifying it with flash themes, audio drivers and camera drivers. There were at least 3 tools I used to flash firmwares and modify layouts and icons. I still have my modding files from back then in an archive. At one point I even managed to get Android-looking battery and status icons and had a widget on screen with weather data for 14 days. It pulled the data from an xml file that I downloaded every 2 weeks. I miss those days and I still have the W910i, tho its screen is dead and I had to get rid of the battery as it had swollen. One day I'll try and get it back to work.
@@malwaretestingfan Wow, I used to have a Cookie but I never knew people were modding them. I had a Cookie Fresh actually, maybe by then people stopped caring. Are any of their old pages still up or archived?
@@s8wc3 I cannot link pages, but yes, there are many websites dedicated to the modding of pre-Android LG phones that are up to this day, the KP500 model (Cookie) was particularly liked by these modders, with a thriving scene focused around the creation of native applications (PXO files), customized FW and themes. "Cookie Tutorials - Tools", GSM-Forum, GSMHosting (unfortunately it's attached files are gone) and the Polish forum LGFORUMPL still survive. It's wholly unrelated to this discussion, but a reverse engineer, Buu342, has written an excellent article on his quest to recover assets from the PXO file format ("Ripping Assets From An Old Mobile Game - Music World") which might be of interest to you.
I loved this nostalgia trip. I had even forgotten about the dancing (from the vibrator). I remember one of the Swedish operators had a webpage where you could draw your own logos and send them over to the phone for free. I also used to buy tons of cases for both the 3310’s and 3330 I used to have and even had a joystick for them to play snake haha. I need to see if I can find any of my old phones. Thank you for this!
I cannot believe how surreal it is to watch Nokia 3310 spin vertically on a table due to vibrations caused by music. It's one of those things that are just between reality and magic... maybe I should call it a day and get some sleep.
I used to love the Sony Ericsson and Siemens custom firmware scene of the 2000s, never realized the humble 3310 could do this much. I got to try this. Thanks for this video!
I remember the Sony Ericsson modding scene and modding my phone, it was amazing! I will make a video about this one day, hopefully several. I know less about the Siemens scene, but I want to learn more about all that when I get the right models to do it.
I think it was a very popular thing in poland at the time (2000s). Even my mom had a dozen of custom themes on her k800. I still miss the era where people tried to mod everything.
The android scene still has some dedicated peeps for getting root acess on all kinds of phones often to the dismay of the manufacturers, and the google pixel phones especially where it's possible to unlock and then re-lock the bootloader while retaining full root privileges
The best part in firmware hacking to me was the ability to add many new ringtones. I still have my 3310 with 65 ringtones. The 3315 tweak was mandatory.
I always thought it was hidden in the tones menu because as a teenager we all spent ages using the composer/tracker to make new ring tones and listen to them over and over, so i guess if you were after personalisation it was in the same place as where you went to show off your freestyler/blue/sandstorm etc to your friends 😅
This phone is a little bit before my time but I'm fascinated by this content. I miss the simplicity of these phones. My first was a nokia flip some time around 2007. I forget the exact model. Looking forward to more
Oh, I remember that logo and ringtone maker software from a magazine disc back in the day! I was totally fascinated by it albeit still having no (need for a) phone for many years to come. Hearing about a customROM scene and those mobo swaps is really interesting too. Didn't know things were that advanced back then already.
Omg this took me back, I had the US version of this phone in 2001. I never hacked it, but I had a flashing keypad and I made my own version of Sandstorm on the ringtone composer 😅 I miss these old phones so much, I wish we could still use them. Modern dumbphones are great too, but they're just not the same.
I remember seeing those hacked 3310s around that time. Was quite envious about those custom ROMs though I haven't actually seen a homebrew game until now. Maybe I'd give those a try on my 3310 once I get the resources to do so.
I miss our old Nokia phones. They may not be as fancy as today's models, but they hold a special nostalgia for me. Spent may hours drawing Picture Messages and copying Ringtones off newspapers and books. And the games still hold up to this day!
i remember buying a connector from my hometown's Chinatown for my Nokia 6030 way back, but it never occurred to me that there was a big modding community behind it, i just thought the cable never worked when i plugged it into the family PC. it also had to connect under the battery compartment and the battery could be installed in an angle to provide power. also, i used to have a network logo i had to purchase from my provider and it was the Lion King one on my Nokia 1100. man i miss those old days haha
I remember my parents went to a technician for upgrading their 3310, it costs some but they enjoyed the new features of custom rom, this was wayback 2002
Omg lot of the my memory returns. I was the part of the Polish 3310 and 8210 modders community. It was also huge sonny ericsson k700 community in Poland in the begenning of 2000’s
Nice, Polish modders did some amazing work. The Sony Ericsson models were also really fun to mod. I had a K750, a beautiful phone. I will be having a closer look one day.
So glad I came across this channel. These are things I used to do in the early 2000s, and would continue to until I bought my first Windows PPC in 2007.
When I was at school, many of my class mates had a Nokia 3210. Probably quite similar to this one. It was the best sold phone around the year 2000. It took many years later for me to have my first mobile, but I went for a Sony Ericsson.
Wow, this is very cool, thanks for making such a video, I'm about to go through a restored Nokia 33-10, well, of course, I don't want to, as I'm very lazy, but it was still very interesting for me to watch how you personalize your phone.
I remember you could order ringtones and logos from magazines etc. You had to send a sms to there service to send you a ringtone or logo. Later with newer phones they had also games to dl to your phone. Great content! Subscribed
9:08 No one expected a Polish ROM, no one.... Btw. maybe it's just my opinion, but here in Poland we have the largest community of modders, from Commodore 64, to Nokia 3310, even Windows 10 Lite.... And that's because in the 80s/90s there was a lot of demand for polished/cracked software, which translated into the fact that a good number of people grew up on it. Ok, maybe not me, I'm too young, but even I started getting interested in programming/computers thanks to crack downloads during my youth.
10:45 This is a game from a Soviet clone of Nintendo "Game and watch", called "Электроника ИМ 02". Instead of Mickey Mouse there is a Wolf, the cartoon is called "Ну, погоди".
COM port cables are for uploading pictures and logos, resetting settings, fixing checksum errors, removing locks, But cannot flash firmware. The LPT cable can flash firmware with special software and not much else.
I used to have this phone, and my older brother had the 3330, with WAP. But then mine was stolen at the driving range 😢 Man that freestyler ringtone was awesome 🕺
we could play xxx GIF on this thing, back in 2000 is really amazing till now, i was barely 8 years old when this phone was released still had a lot memories with it, even now in 2023 i own more than 20-22 Nokia handsets (mostly Symbian)
@@JanusCycle agree! But I was too young to get into it. My first phone was the SE T630, and I remember that time much more clearly. The Siemens C65 was its main competitor here at the time.
Damn, this just popped up on my recommendations. Fascinating watch, I had no idea these things were so modable!! My parents wouldn't let me have my own phone when these things were prevelant, but I still managed to play around with them a bunch. Great stuff, can't wait to check out the rest of your channel
10:50 This is a russian (more like soviet) game named "Nu pogodi" made for game&watch clone back in the USSR days The G&W clone was named "Electronika" (literally something like "an electronic unit") and the game itself was the clone of the game called "egg" if i recall correctly and was based on a soviet cartoon with the similar name. It may be based on an episode where the main antagonist "Wolf" was capturing chickens with a combine machine 😁 And yes, modding of these old nokias (and also motorollas, samsungs) was a huge trend in russia too back in the days and there are lots of roms which had more functionality than these and some even contained another rom within them. Maybe this polish rom just stole this game from some russian rom cuz it has russian title screen, cant judge
Just for heads-up: Electronica was a name of a "brand" of sorts. They made digital clocks and other electronic devices as well. The G&W was just one of many devices made by them. They also made an "octopus" game clone
watching your videos about the nokia 3310 really brings back memories of owning one... in high school this is my personal phone and that time i want to mod it like what you have there on that video and that costs 300PHP ($5.45) for the custom firmware reprogram way back in 2004
Had 3210 and did some mods into it. Technical info on start screen, unlocked couple of new games and ofc uploaded new ringing sounds, without need to tap them in phones editor.
About the Game&Watch style game, is is a port of soviet Game&Watch clone, which showed characters from a animated series 'Nu, pogodi!', which was soviet equivalent of Tom and Jerry. The soviet clone and the TV series is well konown in Poland.
the fact that so many different variants of the 33XX, 34XX, and 35XX series exist makes me think that reality changed. been working for over 20years with phones yet never had known every model and its variants. nokia really is or was the "goat" of mobile phones, they built different versions for each country, but not just becasue of connectivity also different screens, buttonlayout, led color etc. something new learned today, thank you.
When I first got Nokia phone, I think it was 2300, I was absolutely blown away by their menu grouping. It was absolute nightmare to find anything in there. Every setting was misplaced in the worst possible way, so that you can't use common logic and have to remember how to get there.
Man this is a great channel. I love watching this videos about old phones. I have a box full of old nokia flashing cable maybe I can send it to you free o charge somehow? It's been sitting in my shelf for years.
Thank you for all these information you gave us. Just wondering if there is a way so the screen will turn off (to save battery) but the phone can still receive calls ?
The Nokia 3310 LCD uses only a few microamps. That's thousands of times less than the rest of the phone is using on standby. Making the screen blank won't make any noticeable difference to battery life. The green backlight however does use lots of power. Make sure it's turning off when you are not using your phone to save battery.
@@JanusCycle I wanted to write to you the next day that you sent me the link to the tools but I forgot. So here I am again. Thank you soo much for the tools. I found a Nokia 7110 for around 7$ in the flea market a few days ago, and I wanted to see if I can patch this phone with newer software. This is really helpful for me because some of the text documents inside of the folders are in Romanian! I will rebuild the 7110 battery, the cable for flashing in I will give it a go. Thank you again!
Ahhh, the Nokia 3310, never personally owned one but had 3410... I could never get used to that weird back button and arrows placement. 7:36 I see you have 3350 and 3410 files, were those also possible to flash on 3315 mobo? I wonder if all those buttons would be functional or any other weird bugs that could come with it.
This is my parents first phone that still works even after a lot of abuse... And love your Palm Dragon Ball video Emulation... I thought your channel, at least, already as big as This Didnt Compute channel, but it surprisingly isnt .. so subbed from me.
Have owned this little beauty amongst other Nokias 5110, 7110 (with the pop out slider) , 8910i just a few. Oh and getting hold of Logo manager making my own logos for myself and friends. Fun times.
So much nostalgia... I bought the 3410 with a t-mobile post-paid plan in '01. I still know the year because it was when I graduate and made a trip to denmark with my classmates. My girlfriend was at home so I called and texted here daily. Long story short, the bill was 600 EUR then🤬 Network Providers really rip you off back in the days, especially when you were roaming in foreign networks. The Phone was a good one, very solid and well made.
Customizing these Phones was also big in Germany, there were providers which would send you Ringtones, Provider Logos, Screensavers and Games as OTA Update. (for a fee...as scammy Subscription Model) You could buy 1st and third-party Covers Cases, Keyboards, Flashers and Stickers ect. on every Market and some even offered more invasive Options like changing the LED color (blue was rather popular when blue LED's came out), but i don't remember seeing custom ROM's.
I was a big fan of Boondocks saints, so I had sounds and custom pics all over my 3210 and up. Even when I got Logitech G15 keyboard. Was so fun and easy back then. So my preferred pic and sound was from the scene. With Roco/funny man. Leaving the phonebooth. CATCH YOU ON THE FLIPSIDE. ;)
I worked in mobiles for around twenty years. I've seen some sights ! I remember when sms originating was launched to the public with the Mitsubishi Mt 11 and me the manager of the DXCommunications in Paisley. This time working for Pocket Phone Shop in Motherwell. Not the kind of manager to miss a trick I got hold of some cables and made some operator logos and converted some tunes on to the 3210's which I got faces from Dextra and sold them combined Good times Janus!
Found my old 3310 in a box last year, managed to get it powered on to be greeted by the Bender "Bite my shiny metal ass" screensaver I apparently put on it about 20 years ago, haha.
This video is so geeky I love it! And it reminded me of a curious thing I remember from a piece of software I used a while ago. The software was called Sim Max and I was using it to copy some contacts and sms's from and old sim card for a feature phone I had and I remember clearly seeing an option to creator an Operator Logo and a ringtone (Both for Nokia only), then I guess add them to the Sim Card!
I'm really glad you enjoyed this video and the other one. Operator Logos and Nokia ringtones could be sent over SMS. It's possible the software stored these as SMS messages on the card, and activated in your Nokia. Thanks for watching and your comments.
@@JanusCycle No problem your videos scratch an itch for retro modding and they are really unique and I can see you out effort in them. I hope you get more subs and views, you deserve them. If you don't mind can you look into how mobile phones can use the AT command set? I wouldn't mind a video on that! I was just researching on a program called Gammu and it mentioned that.
Im so glad that i got to be a part off all these awsome phones Nokia made. Got my first phone at the age of 14 in the year 2000. It was the Nokia 5110. The next year i believe, i just HAD TO HAVE the 3310, and i ended up getting it. Those two phones is burned into my memory. It was some great years! Even tho texting the girls was really expensive.. 😅
I still have a bunch of the cables to connect the phone to the computer (generic OEM ones) and had a lot of PC software for the Nokia. was not able to use any of them, maybe the logo upload. But i wish i could do the things you do now, back in the days.
PD: Thanks for the video. Logomanager is the SW i used. Bumper the game i used to play. Sad i deleted all the software i had about a year ago, would love to share it with you. Keep it up. Nice content.
4:35 if the 3315 came out of the mountain hit looking like that, I can't imagine what the mountain ended up looking like (assuming it actually survived the hit)...
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I was a university student from 2001 to 2006 in the heyday of Nokia phones. I travelled 4 hours by train every second weekend or so back home for the weekend and back to school. What I used to do on train is to make melodies on request for fellow riders who had Nokia phones. In later years I composed midi files on computer and I was able to beam them using IR port. I even went so far to optimize for various phones (various Nokias and SonyEricssons were the most popular). Shortly after mp3 ringtones came in and suddenly everybody could use any song they liked so my little claim to fame went out :D
What an interesting story 😊
Well, that's very interesting! I have this Nokia 3220, where i live, 2g is still around until 2035 or something like that, i also have a nokia with 2g, bluetooth and irda, so i could, in theory, send a song over from my pc to this nokia, then send it through mms to my 3220, and have ringtones that way, but i don't know how to optimize ringtones for phones! Because if i send over a standard midi tone, the phone's disco lighting doesn't react to the "beat" like the original nokia ringtones do in the tones folder! Can you help me or at least, point me in the right direction? Or do you happen to have ringtones for this very particular phone? Greetings my man
@@bramvandenbroeck5060 what you'd need to do is to open the midi file in a midi editor (Vakewalk is free) and you'd need to find out which specific midi messages control the lights (I remember there used to be a pretty extensive documentation on midi implementation for Nokia phones).
There was Kao this software called Nokia midi suite or something like that where you could optimize the ringtone for your phone (rather poorly) and add the special effects.
Now these thing being already 20 years old I'm not sure if any of them is even still available. I might have something on my very old disk but I'm not sure if I'll have time to dig it out
Wow, what a blast from the past. I was also a DCT-3 hacker back in the day.
I concentrated more on the PPM, I wanted to sideload java games onto my 3410 as it only supported WAP install.
I reverse engineered the whole damned memory structure and it was eye opening to see that deleting SMS, contacts and call logs etc just set a "deleted" bit.
I was contacted by a police force who had used my program to analyse a suspects phone dump they'd taken. He'd factory reset everything but it was all still there and it quickly confirmed to the police that they had the right man and it was worth getting the logs from the network operator as evidence.
I think he described it as "bloody magic" how the phone appeared empty but then they could see the SMS conversations on "the night in question".
Resetting FAID was the key to 3310 etc hacking, I forget who cracked that, but yeah, that opened the whole scene right up.
Amazing story, thanks for sharing that!
Wow! What a story! I wonder if deleting still works like that on modern tech, but probably not, i'm pretty sure... Anyway, kudos to you, you must have been proud!
@@raphaelkgh218 Depending on the operating system, it still somewhat does. On Linux as well as Windows you have the option to format a partition by setting every bit to 0. This ensures that even if you get your hands on the data storage itself (whether it's a platter of HDD or chip from flash/SSD) the only thing you will read is all the 0 bits. Deleting files sometimes just marks the file as deleted by the OS, but with external tools you can still find some files and recover them.
I wrote a DCT3 unlocker shell in VB6 and posted it in Nokiafree under the same username I am here. If you can find it, I’d love to know. I was flying blind but I managed it (there were way too many shells, hah)😂
I used to flash those roms - this scene was quite big in Poland and I really loved all those custom animations. Lots of work and love put into them!
I'm very impressed by the work done in the Polish modding scene. It's great to go back and look at these roms. It must have been amazing to be a part of this scene in it's heyday.
I lived in UK (london) at the time,2ths i believe. and there were a huge meeting doing this as well. Stummbled at one day.
@axinus1841 Po co ci ;) £40 ebay pewnie sa schematy jak samemu polutowac jak ktos ma zajawke grosze by wyszlo
@axinus1841na ebay uk jest za £33
My dad used to work for Telefónica back in the day and got the 3330 as soon as it came out. That little WAP browser was a hell of a battery drain. I remember browsing a lot on it during the summer when we were in our beach house (thanks to his corporate unlimited plan, mobile data was outrageously expensive back then). Had to be plugged in all the time.
That pinball game was a blast too!
It wasn’t “mobile data”; that didn’t exist. It was dialup.
@@unlokia Oh yeah, makes sense. The WAP browser had to "connect" to the network every time it was launched. Makes a ton of sense that it was dialing into the telco on the background.
Never tought about how WAP actually worked.
@@hrq007heheh yep. I tell
Ya what though, it made one appreciate the internet FAR more when each session required all that palaver. Love these times so much. ❤
@@hrq007Not how WAP works but how mobile data on the 3330 works. It doesn't have GPRS so it literally had to call your provider and use dialup like 90s computers did. That also explains the battery draining. I have a 6310i which does have GPRS (which is the only thing that saves it from not working with modern cell carriers), but still only opens WAP sites, it would have been a blast to use back then but with today's prices for data lol
As an owner of the 3310 since 2001, I’ve always believed that the reason for placing the Screen Saver at the end of the Tones menu was simply because Tones copied the menu structure of Profiles. The options under Tones basically just allowed you to configure your active profile without having to go through a more tedious way via Profiles.
That's very possible, thank you
Yes, that's true. Screen savers were profile-specific, and and all the other profile-specific settings were about tones. Should screen savers put into separate place, there should have been equal separation in profile setting menu structure to maintain the consistency, which would have been next to impossible in any sensible way.
It is questionable though to have redundant menus for profile settings (the per profile setup menu and the tones menu which was exact same for the active profile), because redundancies are the key to clumsy menu surfing and bad user experience (especially when redundancy is not comprehensively and consistently similar in all redundant instances, which is the plaque in modern UI design fashion), but at least in that case the consistency had been maintained.
And it is understandable that as the profiles functionality was added on top of the UI of earlier models without it, they didn't remove the traditional tones menu you had with older models with no profiles. So it was actually the beginning of convolution into today's confusing UIs, but little in significance enough to still allow the perfect surfing-thru all the menus without too much redundancies or inconsistencies making you bored or confused.
How about people already fiddled with the ringtone settings and that's about all they knew. New shiny screensaver tech? Add it where people look for settings to change.
@@TheSimocthat's the dreaded technical debt that plagued all software because removing things is really hard, you never know what might break or who uses the feature.
@@monad_tcp Yes, and on the other hand, too many devs are nowadays also too eager to remove useful features, and let things break, without caring too much about UX.
I loved those old Nokias back in the day. I went through a few of them because family would just swap with me for different ones. That screen in your background during the intro takes me back too. Logo manager. I used a lot more of that in the early 2000's with phones that had infrared ports (like the 8210), as the laptop I had access to, had an IR on it. Easy to transfer a bunch of stuff over on my phone and my friends. Usually ringtones, pictures, and changing the operator logo from the carrier to whatever fit in that box. Then moved into using it for polyphonic ringtones and Java games on color screen phones like the 7250.
Watching your videos is a pleasure.
Great to hear, thanks!
The Bumper game really took me back to my mom's Nokia 3410. Used to play that a lot in about 2003 or so. If you ever get a hold of Sony Ericsson phones from about 2006 to 2011, those had a modding scene too. I remember running Doom on my W910i and modifying it with flash themes, audio drivers and camera drivers. There were at least 3 tools I used to flash firmwares and modify layouts and icons. I still have my modding files from back then in an archive. At one point I even managed to get Android-looking battery and status icons and had a widget on screen with weather data for 14 days. It pulled the data from an xml file that I downloaded every 2 weeks. I miss those days and I still have the W910i, tho its screen is dead and I had to get rid of the battery as it had swollen. One day I'll try and get it back to work.
Siemens had a modding scene too. Those were the days of ElfPack. I used to follow a lot of LG Cookie modders as well, that scene is gone for good.
@@malwaretestingfan Sony Ericsson Elfpack is ported from Siemens btw
@@malwaretestingfan Wow, I used to have a Cookie but I never knew people were modding them. I had a Cookie Fresh actually, maybe by then people stopped caring. Are any of their old pages still up or archived?
@@s8wc3 I cannot link pages, but yes, there are many websites dedicated to the modding of pre-Android LG phones that are up to this day, the KP500 model (Cookie) was particularly liked by these modders, with a thriving scene focused around the creation of native applications (PXO files), customized FW and themes. "Cookie Tutorials - Tools", GSM-Forum, GSMHosting (unfortunately it's attached files are gone) and the Polish forum LGFORUMPL still survive. It's wholly unrelated to this discussion, but a reverse engineer, Buu342, has written an excellent article on his quest to recover assets from the PXO file format ("Ripping Assets From An Old Mobile Game - Music World") which might be of interest to you.
That second custom ringtone just unlocked a memory from my childhood. Absolutely brilliant.
How is it called???
I found it it is La Bamba how didn't I recognise it
@@8alakros No it's bomfunk mc: freestyler.
I loved this nostalgia trip. I had even forgotten about the dancing (from the vibrator).
I remember one of the Swedish operators had a webpage where you could draw your own logos and send them over to the phone for free. I also used to buy tons of cases for both the 3310’s and 3330 I used to have and even had a joystick for them to play snake haha. I need to see if I can find any of my old phones. Thank you for this!
I'm glad you enjoyed this and thank you for sharing your memories.
@@JanusCycle I will check someday if I can find all my old phones. If you’re interested I could ship them out to you.
@@enkz0r I'm keen to know which models you have. Thank you. let me know :)
@@JanusCycle I will let you know when I come home from my vacation in about a week or so. I guess contact via Instagram is the easiest then?
I cannot believe how surreal it is to watch Nokia 3310 spin vertically on a table due to vibrations caused by music. It's one of those things that are just between reality and magic... maybe I should call it a day and get some sleep.
I used to love the Sony Ericsson and Siemens custom firmware scene of the 2000s, never realized the humble 3310 could do this much. I got to try this. Thanks for this video!
I remember the Sony Ericsson modding scene and modding my phone, it was amazing! I will make a video about this one day, hopefully several. I know less about the Siemens scene, but I want to learn more about all that when I get the right models to do it.
Absolutely amazing quality content! Wonderful, I never knew the 3310 can be turned into the 3315 with some small changes.
Thank you. It's good to know I'm doing something worthwhile.
I think it was a very popular thing in poland at the time (2000s). Even my mom had a dozen of custom themes on her k800. I still miss the era where people tried to mod everything.
The android scene still has some dedicated peeps for getting root acess on all kinds of phones often to the dismay of the manufacturers, and the google pixel phones especially where it's possible to unlock and then re-lock the bootloader while retaining full root privileges
The best part in firmware hacking to me was the ability to add many new ringtones. I still have my 3310 with 65 ringtones. The 3315 tweak was mandatory.
Ah, the joy of watching the 3310 dancing on the table.
I always thought it was hidden in the tones menu because as a teenager we all spent ages using the composer/tracker to make new ring tones and listen to them over and over, so i guess if you were after personalisation it was in the same place as where you went to show off your freestyler/blue/sandstorm etc to your friends 😅
This phone is a little bit before my time but I'm fascinated by this content. I miss the simplicity of these phones. My first was a nokia flip some time around 2007. I forget the exact model. Looking forward to more
Oh, I remember that logo and ringtone maker software from a magazine disc back in the day!
I was totally fascinated by it albeit still having no (need for a) phone for many years to come.
Hearing about a customROM scene and those mobo swaps is really interesting too.
Didn't know things were that advanced back then already.
loved it, just ordered 3310. excited for its arrival
Nice, enjoy :)
Omg this took me back, I had the US version of this phone in 2001. I never hacked it, but I had a flashing keypad and I made my own version of Sandstorm on the ringtone composer 😅
I miss these old phones so much, I wish we could still use them. Modern dumbphones are great too, but they're just not the same.
You did some nice sounding customization :)
I remember seeing those hacked 3310s around that time. Was quite envious about those custom ROMs though I haven't actually seen a homebrew game until now. Maybe I'd give those a try on my 3310 once I get the resources to do so.
I miss our old Nokia phones. They may not be as fancy as today's models, but they hold a special nostalgia for me.
Spent may hours drawing Picture Messages and copying Ringtones off newspapers and books.
And the games still hold up to this day!
I had the 3315 when i was younger, it was a bloody brilliant phone, but i did always prefer the design of the 3310
I miss monochrome TFT phones so much
i remember buying a connector from my hometown's Chinatown for my Nokia 6030 way back, but it never occurred to me that there was a big modding community behind it, i just thought the cable never worked when i plugged it into the family PC. it also had to connect under the battery compartment and the battery could be installed in an angle to provide power. also, i used to have a network logo i had to purchase from my provider and it was the Lion King one on my Nokia 1100. man i miss those old days haha
I remember my parents went to a technician for upgrading their 3310, it costs some but they enjoyed the new features of custom rom, this was wayback 2002
Omg lot of the my memory returns. I was the part of the Polish 3310 and 8210 modders community. It was also huge sonny ericsson k700 community in Poland in the begenning of 2000’s
Nice, Polish modders did some amazing work. The Sony Ericsson models were also really fun to mod. I had a K750, a beautiful phone. I will be having a closer look one day.
So glad I came across this channel. These are things I used to do in the early 2000s, and would continue to until I bought my first Windows PPC in 2007.
Nice, thank you for watching!
Didn't think up until today that I could be captivated by a Nokia 3310 video :)
Thank you, there is so much this phone can do, it was time to tell this story.
@@JanusCycle can i please plug a radio into the base or battery of my 3310 & control my tv with it? those batteries LAST
When I was at school, many of my class mates had a Nokia 3210. Probably quite similar to this one. It was the best sold phone around the year 2000. It took many years later for me to have my first mobile, but I went for a Sony Ericsson.
Wow, this is very cool, thanks for making such a video, I'm about to go through a restored Nokia 33-10, well, of course, I don't want to, as I'm very lazy, but it was still very interesting for me to watch how you personalize your phone.
Take you time and enjoy the experience.
Your videos bring a whole new level for the saying that Nokia 3310 was a beast
Such a niche concept you are covering on your videos but you deserve more subscribers. Thank you for the video :)
Thank you, I appreciate hearing that.
14:39 That wandering phone got me laughing, I don't know why it's so funny...
14:40 thankyou for this 😂😂 I have my old 3310 somewhere with the lightning case on it 😆
I remember you could order ringtones and logos from magazines etc. You had to send a sms to there service to send you a ringtone or logo. Later with newer phones they had also games to dl to your phone. Great content! Subscribed
i remember enjoying this channel in past times.. finally got a second to sub ...
hey thanks
9:08 No one expected a Polish ROM, no one....
Btw. maybe it's just my opinion, but here in Poland we have the largest community of modders, from Commodore 64, to Nokia 3310, even Windows 10 Lite.... And that's because in the 80s/90s there was a lot of demand for polished/cracked software, which translated into the fact that a good number of people grew up on it. Ok, maybe not me, I'm too young, but even I started getting interested in programming/computers thanks to crack downloads during my youth.
Your work is simply amazing! I recently bought a N95 for the nostalgia but after your videos I definitely want a 3310 or 3410!
Amazing work!
10:45 This is a game from a Soviet clone of Nintendo "Game and watch", called "Электроника ИМ 02". Instead of Mickey Mouse there is a Wolf, the cartoon is called "Ну, погоди".
Best video yet. Incredible production quality.
I remember playing Bumper as a kid.
Great video. I feel nostalgic about all of this, yet intrigued.
Can you explain the point of constantly switching between the COM and LPT ports and building a custom cable for that? I don't get it
COM port cables are for uploading pictures and logos, resetting settings, fixing checksum errors, removing locks, But cannot flash firmware.
The LPT cable can flash firmware with special software and not much else.
I used to have this phone, and my older brother had the 3330, with WAP.
But then mine was stolen at the driving range 😢
Man that freestyler ringtone was awesome 🕺
Early '90s Nokia. Im drooling.😂
we could play xxx GIF on this thing, back in 2000 is really amazing till now, i was barely 8 years old when this phone was released still had a lot memories with it, even now in 2023 i own more than 20-22 Nokia handsets (mostly Symbian)
I had the 3330 back when they were popular, I was king of the world with the pinball game it had.
My Nokia 3310 still works like a charm, unlike the "Smartphones" I have with broken screens. Overheating issues. Bad Battery
9:20 wow, polish ROM, nice! 3310 was extremely popular in Poland.
As was the Siemens SL45i as I found trying some custom ROMs.
@@JanusCycle agree! But I was too young to get into it. My first phone was the SE T630, and I remember that time much more clearly. The Siemens C65 was its main competitor here at the time.
Damn, this just popped up on my recommendations. Fascinating watch, I had no idea these things were so modable!! My parents wouldn't let me have my own phone when these things were prevelant, but I still managed to play around with them a bunch. Great stuff, can't wait to check out the rest of your channel
You will probably enjoy the sequel to this even more then. I hope you enjoy the channel.
14:28 It even comes with 90's wibes freestyler
19:23 oh my gosh, i didnt expect that names of the logos are written in serbian language 😊❤
Serbian is my native language
Some of the best phone modders in the world at the time came from these parts of Europe.
@@JanusCycle Oh, i didn't know that
10:50
This is a russian (more like soviet) game named "Nu pogodi" made for game&watch clone back in the USSR days
The G&W clone was named "Electronika" (literally something like "an electronic unit") and the game itself was the clone of the game called "egg" if i recall correctly and was based on a soviet cartoon with the similar name. It may be based on an episode where the main antagonist "Wolf" was capturing chickens with a combine machine 😁
And yes, modding of these old nokias (and also motorollas, samsungs) was a huge trend in russia too back in the days and there are lots of roms which had more functionality than these and some even contained another rom within them. Maybe this polish rom just stole this game from some russian rom cuz it has russian title screen, cant judge
That is awesome, thanks for that information! I would love to see some of these other custom ROMs.
Just for heads-up: Electronica was a name of a "brand" of sorts. They made digital clocks and other electronic devices as well. The G&W was just one of many devices made by them. They also made an "octopus" game clone
Bro those custom ringtones are freaking nostalgic 😢
14:40 i used to do that on my dad's phone
Amazing... You bring me to past ı am about to cry ....
watching your videos about the nokia 3310 really brings back memories of owning one... in high school this is my personal phone and that time i want to mod it like what you have there on that video and that costs 300PHP ($5.45) for the custom firmware reprogram way back in 2004
Thanks so much for sharing. 😉👌🏻
My mom had this phone and I love playing with it
Had 3210 and did some mods into it. Technical info on start screen, unlocked couple of new games and ofc uploaded new ringing sounds, without need to tap them in phones editor.
I've found your channel these days and I'm addicted. Very good series.
Glad you are enjoying :)
About the Game&Watch style game, is is a port of soviet Game&Watch clone, which showed characters from a animated series 'Nu, pogodi!', which was soviet equivalent of Tom and Jerry.
The soviet clone and the TV series is well konown in Poland.
the fact that so many different variants of the 33XX, 34XX, and 35XX series exist makes me think that reality changed. been working for over 20years with phones yet never had known every model and its variants. nokia really is or was the "goat" of mobile phones, they built different versions for each country, but not just becasue of connectivity also different screens, buttonlayout, led color etc. something new learned today, thank you.
This was the first birthday gift I bought to my wife 21 years ago (we were engaged at that time) , days are flying in the speed of light
Very interesting video. It's always nice and nostalgic to re-visit classic technology. And to further enhance and give old tech a new lease of life.
Thank you, it's amazing to go back and look at what was being done with these phone back in the day.
ah, I sure wish that GSM was still kicking here in Aus. I can't believe that its already been five years this year since it kicked the bucket.
And 3G is shutting down this year!
When I first got Nokia phone, I think it was 2300, I was absolutely blown away by their menu grouping. It was absolute nightmare to find anything in there. Every setting was misplaced in the worst possible way, so that you can't use common logic and have to remember how to get there.
Man this is a great channel. I love watching this videos about old phones. I have a box full of old nokia flashing cable maybe I can send it to you free o charge somehow? It's been sitting in my shelf for years.
14:40 "oh sure, your fancy smartphone can do all these things ... but can it DANCE?" :D you just got to love the old Nokia :)
I used to have cables and software for old Nokia's to change things like the operator logos lol
Thank you for all these information you gave us. Just wondering if there is a way so the screen will turn off (to save battery) but the phone can still receive calls ?
The Nokia 3310 LCD uses only a few microamps. That's thousands of times less than the rest of the phone is using on standby. Making the screen blank won't make any noticeable difference to battery life.
The green backlight however does use lots of power. Make sure it's turning off when you are not using your phone to save battery.
@@JanusCycle awesome !!
@@JanusCycle great , thanks !
Man. I just discovered your channel and subbed. I'm loving this content
Me too, subscribing ASAP.
Hey man, intersting video. Where did you find the flashing tool. I can't find it.
Here are the tools :) cosconor.fr/GSM/Nokia/Netmonitor/DCT-3/Tools/Diverse/
Thank you! I will try and update the firmware myself.
@@JanusCycle Is it work on Windows 11?
@@faridirwan6040 Sorry for the late response. I suggest you use an older laptop running Windows XP for the best compatibility.
@@JanusCycle I wanted to write to you the next day that you sent me the link to the tools but I forgot. So here I am again. Thank you soo much for the tools. I found a Nokia 7110 for around 7$ in the flea market a few days ago, and I wanted to see if I can patch this phone with newer software. This is really helpful for me because some of the text documents inside of the folders are in Romanian! I will rebuild the 7110 battery, the cable for flashing in I will give it a go. Thank you again!
Ahhh, the Nokia 3310, never personally owned one but had 3410... I could never get used to that weird back button and arrows placement.
7:36 I see you have 3350 and 3410 files, were those also possible to flash on 3315 mobo? I wonder if all those buttons would be functional or any other weird bugs that could come with it.
Nice spotting! I will be trying an upgrade to 3350 and 3410. But I will need to upgrade the hardware. Maybe in another video!
"it's unusual to find a broken nokia, this one must have been hit by a mountain" he ain't lying
This is my parents first phone that still works even after a lot of abuse... And love your Palm Dragon Ball video Emulation... I thought your channel, at least, already as big as This Didnt Compute channel, but it surprisingly isnt .. so subbed from me.
Thank you!
Have owned this little beauty amongst other Nokias 5110, 7110 (with the pop out slider) , 8910i just a few. Oh and getting hold of Logo manager making my own logos for myself and friends. Fun times.
So much nostalgia... I bought the 3410 with a t-mobile post-paid plan in '01. I still know the year because it was when I graduate and made a trip to denmark with my classmates. My girlfriend was at home so I called and texted here daily. Long story short, the bill was 600 EUR then🤬 Network Providers really rip you off back in the days, especially when you were roaming in foreign networks. The Phone was a good one, very solid and well made.
Heh, I used to have a free website to enter those ringtones by hand... Lovely that Freestyler is on that one ROM :D
Customizing these Phones was also big in Germany, there were providers which would send you Ringtones, Provider Logos, Screensavers and Games as OTA Update.
(for a fee...as scammy Subscription Model)
You could buy 1st and third-party Covers Cases, Keyboards, Flashers and Stickers ect. on every Market and some even offered more invasive Options like changing the LED color (blue was rather popular when blue LED's came out), but i don't remember seeing custom ROM's.
I was a big fan of Boondocks saints, so I had sounds and custom pics all over my 3210 and up. Even when I got Logitech G15 keyboard. Was so fun and easy back then. So my preferred pic and sound was from the scene. With Roco/funny man. Leaving the phonebooth. CATCH YOU ON THE FLIPSIDE. ;)
I worked in mobiles for around twenty years. I've seen some sights ! I remember when sms originating was launched to the public with the Mitsubishi Mt 11 and me the manager of the DXCommunications in Paisley. This time working for Pocket Phone Shop in Motherwell. Not the kind of manager to miss a trick I got hold of some cables and made some operator logos and converted some tunes on to the 3210's which I got faces from Dextra and sold them combined Good times Janus!
Found my old 3310 in a box last year, managed to get it powered on to be greeted by the Bender "Bite my shiny metal ass" screensaver I apparently put on it about 20 years ago, haha.
Awesome video. Thank you.
14:39 i could watch that for hours ahahhah!!
This video is so geeky I love it! And it reminded me of a curious thing I remember from a piece of software I used a while ago. The software was called Sim Max and I was using it to copy some contacts and sms's from and old sim card for a feature phone I had and I remember clearly seeing an option to creator an Operator Logo and a ringtone (Both for Nokia only), then I guess add them to the Sim Card!
I'm really glad you enjoyed this video and the other one. Operator Logos and Nokia ringtones could be sent over SMS. It's possible the software stored these as SMS messages on the card, and activated in your Nokia. Thanks for watching and your comments.
@@JanusCycle No problem your videos scratch an itch for retro modding and they are really unique and I can see you out effort in them. I hope you get more subs and views, you deserve them.
If you don't mind can you look into how mobile phones can use the AT command set? I wouldn't mind a video on that! I was just researching on a program called Gammu and it mentioned that.
Good times, I did it to my friends at school and the girls liked me a lot ;)
Great vids mate! Subbed
I remember having a Nokia 8810, full chrome, very swag, no SMS. That was bummer. Countles nights were killed playing Snake, though
Are there any updates on the I don't have a 2G tower *yet* thing? I live in Australia too and would be dying to see that.
Im so glad that i got to be a part off all these awsome phones Nokia made. Got my first phone at the age of 14 in the year 2000. It was the Nokia 5110. The next year i believe, i just HAD TO HAVE the 3310, and i ended up getting it. Those two phones is burned into my memory. It was some great years! Even tho texting the girls was really expensive.. 😅
Superb ! Thank you so much for this entertaining video.
I still have a bunch of the cables to connect the phone to the computer (generic OEM ones) and had a lot of PC software for the Nokia. was not able to use any of them, maybe the logo upload. But i wish i could do the things you do now, back in the days.
PD: Thanks for the video. Logomanager is the SW i used. Bumper the game i used to play. Sad i deleted all the software i had about a year ago, would love to share it with you. Keep it up. Nice content.
I'm glad you kept the cables. Software can still be got bit cables are hard to find. Glad you enjoyed the video.
I remember doing the upgrades to 3310 and 3315 and doing the casing changes, Really opened a door for me.
i love when 3310 is happy and then dances XD
I love it dancing at 14:40!!!
this is so cool, now i have to do all this on my own, thank you for these videos
Glad you enjoyed :)
4:35 if the 3315 came out of the mountain hit looking like that, I can't imagine what the mountain ended up looking like (assuming it actually survived the hit)...
Damn, I miss my 3310; don't know why there was something amazing about it...