ralfy review 982 - Talisker 10yo @45.8%vol: (2023)
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If only the Scottish whisky industry would listen more to grumpy old Ralfy.
The most maddening thing about artificial color and chill-filtration….the processes cost money to do, and we PAY for it.
It's alright - if they cut it out tomorrow, they'd just pocket the money; you'd never see a savings.
Perhaps they turned the chill unit off to save money 😂
This could well be. Cheers from Germany
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And in the process, they accidentally improved their product. That would be hilarious 😅
That’s actually hilarious 👌
It wouldn't suprise me. Diageos greed knows no bounds.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge, Ralfy. I have learned so much about whisky and the art of making it from you, and that has helped me immensely. I have become an ardent sipper, and don't touch my bourbons nearly as often now, and I don't really miss them. I am a huge whisky fan now - from all the regions of Scotland. My journey is in large part due to you, sir. Thank you.
This explains so much. When I moved back to the US in 1987 I bought a bottle of Talisker to celebrate, and it was wonderful. About 10 years ago I gave up on it. I'm back, enjoying the distillers edition but it's been a long changing trip.
I recently inherited two bottles of 1950's White Horse Cellar made from the original recipe of 1746 (or so the label tells us) I sold one to a local Whiskey Merchant for £100. Its now on the website for £500. I couldn't sell the other bottle because it had some evaporation (about a third). So i decided to open it in the hope the contents were still drinkable. Low and behold it is magnificent! Truly unbelievable. Seventy years old and it has matured and mellowed in a very special way. Its so good i'm tempted to buy back the one i sold! hahahaha
Ralfy, dude, you're a legend!
This video is one of the reasons why I love watching your reviews. You're a treasure trove of knowledge and not only about whiskies. Your blunt honesty is so refreshing in this world "sponsored reviews". I have a bottle of the new Talisker 10 and I quite like it. There's a slight saltiness, honey texture and most importantly for me, the peatiness is not overwhelming. I find it quite well balanced. It's there but it's not in your face all the time.
A buddy gave me a bottle of Jameson 12yo from 1980. Compared the 1980 bottle to the new bottling. They are like different whiskies, the old version had delicious sherry notes.
I bought 2 bottles in 1995 before leaving England, at the time it was my favorite whisky. Fast forward to 2022 and i opened one of the bottles, it was just as I remembered, salty briny smokey a real taste of the Scottish Islands. I compared it with a modern bottling and yes it is a very different dram now, I will hold onto my other bottle for a wee while longer, at least until the urge gets to me and I pop the cork once more...
New Talisker 10 is absolutely amazing to me. I never liked the old one with the "chili catch" and that bullshit. But last two years of Talisker were absolutely amazing to me. One of the best for the buck IMO!
So this is the channel for sippers 😀
You made my day, Ralfy! ☺️
RUclips delivered a couple of ads right in the middle of this fine malt moment. That’s new.
Fascinating dram the 24 h one… I have also experienced the same thing but it was a few years ago with the 18 that I was gifted. Excellent review as always dear Ralfy. Kindest regards, ciao 👋 S.
Competent dram.
45,8% ABV is exactly 80 Great Britain proof. The proof that Talisker has been traditionally bottled at.
Cheers and happy drams!
Ah that's the reason for 45.8%!
Good stuff Angelos michail 🤗
@@RichardHowells1234 the formule forvthis is 45,8 x 8 = 320,6 ÷ 4 = 80,15 English Proof .
That´s another option 🤩. 45,8 x 1,75 = 80,15 too. Many ways lead to Rome.
I learn something every time I watch your reviews ..Thank you!!!😊
I think Talisker is an exceptional whisky that Diageo has tried to destroy by all means possible. The day Diageo hires a CEO who is fond of whiskey and has half a brain, they will release versions with integrity, even if it is in secret, without publicity, for those of us who have abandoned Diageo for other distilleries that care about the quality consumer, those of us who don't mix whiskey, those who don't destroy it in cocktails. I can only imagine the pain of those who work in those distilleries and see how their product is dyed, filtered, homogenized, for the taste of mass consumption.
kek. You just described Globalism in its practical function but through the lens of how a whiskey can be undermined in quality.
You probably did not do it intentionally but it works.
Exactly! Why try to ruin such an exceptional and unique whisky I have no idea..
Glenlivet came out with the Illicit Still and Licensed Dram versions of their 12. Both very nice. Talisker and the others can do the same.
@@utoobia also the licensed dram and illicit still are or were really not expensive. But the additional alcohol and unchillfiltered really elevated the experience, im always getting a strong hazelnut note on the licensed dram, always enjoying it
Like Blue Label, it's all just "made safe for the mainstream market" with the edges knocked off. Once, at the Talisker Distillery's gift shop, a customer asked for an expression that the shop didn't have and didn't even know was in production, so that's how far people can be out of the loop. People like to believe that whisky is somehow handmade by the dram by little Keebler whisky elves using time-honored traditions and methods... without bothering to consider that Talisker makes some 2.6 million litres annually.
Notwithstanding the negative elements of presentation, Talisker remains one of my favourite island malts. It has a unique signature that sets it apart from the revered Islay offerings - it's just a shame they cannot push the 10 y.o. to an integrity level.
Ralfy - you've come a long, long way since that first review. I can't wait to see what's in store for your 1,000th review. Slainte bud 😃👍.
Fantastic. Just been given this for Father’s Day 🥃
Bought a bottle just last week. I like it, even better than I expected.
Hey, Ralfy!
I've been tasting a bottle of Talisker 10 (produced in 2021) for 4 months now. Pretty competent malt, although I cannot help the feeling of it being highly engineered. While it doesn't lack character completely it is still very compact whisky. Some may say it is balanced but for me it is rather a little too measured to specification. For the price of roughly equivalent of 26.50 pounds by current exchange rates that I paid for my bottle in Bulgaria I don't regret a bit. However, the whisky fell quite short to impress me enough in order to secure a second purchase any time soon.
If this (and maybe Clynelish 14) is the best core range malt Diageo can churn out I feel sorry for those who buy their other products. I don't have liver, time and money to waste on mediocrity at best.
Cheers!
I'll add to that comment about engineered profile. Every dram of talisker 10 from my bottle tastes and opens up exactly the same way. Same as a few months ago, same as today. It was quite shocking experience to me, certainly the first time I noticed this phenomenon. In my limited experience, usually the malt changes as the fill level goes down in the bottle. You notice some different nuance with every other dram. Not here. Try two drams of talisker back to back and you're in for some heavy deja vu.
@@AdlerDanEgoe the talisker 11 y old 2022 is awesome, but very expensive.
I bought a bottle recently I am quite pleased with it.The closed captions are sometimes hilarious. They have you talking about "telescope 18". And calling Talisker a "variable intented brand".
Yep. Always watch Ralfy with subtitles. Adds to the overall enjoyment.
This is in stock at my store will get one today. Followed Talisker though the lessor Storm and Skye years half hoarding my last old bottle of great years of 10yo waiting the 10yo to return to it's old quality. Hurray! Thanks Ralfy.
I found it sweeter than it used to be. Red notes like red apples. It´s got its faults but ratio price/quality, still very good.
And that scotch mist? Impressed.
I do like Talisker but know it could be better which is why i don't pay full price for it. However, its great entry for people wanting to try peated or 'maritime' styles. The 10 is a bottle that should be in everyones collection. It has a little bit of everything in it. I agree that with some water and some time it really brings out a lot of sweetness to go along with some saltyness and ashy campfire.
Thanks Ralfy ❤ Great review and this proves you're absolutely fair. Really appreciate your views and insights, thanks again.
4:05 I've noticed a lot of distilled beverages doubling in price in the last few months. And not just Scotch (which prices here in the USA were bad enough to start), but the domestic brands as well. Mellow Corn, which you reviewed four years ago now, has jumped up in price in the last 5 months. In February I bought a 750ml bottle for a reasonable $7.99 locally. I went to buy a few more last week and it was going for $17.99 for the same bottle now! And don't even get me started on how Scotch and Irish Whiskey prices are going through the roof lately. And it's not just the single malt blends that are rising in price into the stratosphere. Even blended versions are climbing in price, but not as high yet. It's why I'm stocking up on those like Grant's, Black and White, and John Barr at the moment when I can afford them.
I have a feeling we are about to see a repeat of the 90s cigar craze where there will be very little of quality on the shelves, and what little we will be able to purchase will be absolute garbage and horrendously priced. Won't stop those who will buy anything just to be seen as "hip". I predict we will have a rough decade, just like the cigar market did, until production catches up just as a new fad takes over. Buckle up, lads and lassies, it's going to be a rough ride for a while.
Bill Gates buying up all that land 😮😢
I have been drinking single malts correctly for only a few years (tip o' the hat to Ralfy), and Talisker was the first malt that I had where I could identify a distinct arrival, development and finish. I have a bottle of the ten year in the cupboard with other good malts.
As per Ralfy's suggestion, I still blend my Talisker with a little bit of Caol ila 12 and a drop of water.
12:22 Please don't kick the bucket yet, Ralfy!!!😅
I absolutely loved the 8yr. Anny. Version bottling @ 48 ABV, TRULY a great dram--Cheers Ralfy, you're the best coming from the Bothy--
Surprising review Ralfy! I've been avoiding this one and holding on to my existing stock but I'm encouraged now to try it. Cheers!
Hurray for Talisker, I hope it can shine once again. Thanks for all of the tips over the years. You've inspired me to try testing few drams in the refrigerator.
Greeting Mr Ralfy, and thank you for another great video. I have 5 Talisker atm ,10, 18 , Sky l, Storm and Port R. After 18 years old , my fav is Storm. I'm not sure about new ones but I bought that bottle 4 years ago, and I was really impressed. I saw Sky on sales in local bottle shop and was tempted to buy, but you know, when following somebody like you, there is always another bottle that you want to buy, and this goes on and on. So there you go, it is all your fault, Mr Ralfy. ❤😂
I have always enjoyed this and often get it as a gift, this makes it taste even better
love this whisky...I thing the talker distillery characteristic really appeals to me.....
would love to get my hands on an old bottle to compare...because I'm loving this.
Love Ya Grumpy take Ralfy, The truth will set us all free, keep it up
What a joy to see you Ralfy, you haven't lost any of the old charm and loved the 'kicking of the bucket' there. Been following you for over 10 years now and a huge fan. Although I am in Canada now and alcohol prices are unfairly high thanks to the govt. a friend got me a bottle of the new Talisker 10yo with this new abominable print on the packaging and I wanted to see if Ralfy had a new take on the new Talisker. Also wanted to see how much water you added there so i don't drown it. Sipping it right now watching this. Thank you and please keep making reviews there's nobody like you out there. Love from Quebec!
Love Talisker, great whisky
Left my new bottling of Talisker 10 with some added water out like you did and it also turned misty. nice.
The talisker 10 I picked up in December also had a mist. Likewise clynelish 14 picked up in February. As they're both near 46% they don't need chillfiltering so maybe diagio are having a little quiet experiment without bothering to change the label. For what it's worth I think both bottling are very good and like you I do know what clynelish 14 and talisker 10 were like in the 90s. If anything newer talisker seems peatierthan it has been for a long time.
Knowing personally a few employees at said Diageo bottling plant I can say from personal experience that professionalism and competence is not a given.
Great in depth review subscription added
As someone who loved it in the 8-'s 90's I agree, I always wonder if it's just a nostalgic view backwards. However I just remember my enjoyment levels were higher. I still buy the 10 and not the others, it may have lost it's way however for the price I pay it's great value and still one I drink fondly. We're on the same page with this review. Cheers Iain
I think Talisker 10 is still one of the best values there for entry level single malts. It's almost as readily available as Glenfiddich 12, about the same price and way tastier. I usually recommed it to my friends wishing to start trying single malts. I just wish Diageo hadn't made the 18yo so outageously expensive :(
Unfortunately Talisker 10 took a big jump up in price in Canada. I can’t call it a value malt anymore…wish it was, as I really enjoy it. Glenfiddich 12 is $80 and Talisker 10 is $123 in my market - just for reference.
In sweden its 449 sek or
41 usd, its one of the cheapest 10 year olds
@@HandsomeFerretpoor guy, that sounds harsh. I thought my market was pricey, and yet I can get a full liter of Talisker 10 for 65 euros, and I bought the new 18 for 133 euros at the beginning of the year (what a bargain in hindsight, a very good yet over-processed single malt). Glenfiddich 12 at 80 dollars?? I'd rather drink Antiquary 12 or Lidl's Queen Margot! (from 3 to 8 years old). Cheers and good luck.
Oban 14 so cheap also
Ralfy this is encouraging. It’s been 6 years since my last Talisker 10. By the way, I noticed the same thing(within an hour) in Clynelish 14 as a guest on Aqvavitae way back when, 2019. Hope they keep not doing what they are not doing with their two higher proof whisky lover favourites.
Cheers🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃
Mark
Salute to this This Ralfy Guy who make whiskey review since years ago! Another great review video!
Thanks for that intro speech. Bow my hat
Not grumpy, just honest. Thanks again Ralfy...
Repeating "made by the sea" had me laughing to tears. 😂
Good stuff ralfy😘🤙
Truth yeh!
Have a recent bottle of talisker 10 but definitely no scotch mist. Must have been a lucky batch you got 👍🏼
From 1 to 982 reviews !!!! Great !!!!!
Hi Ralfy, It would be very nice if you go for some epic (older/vintage) dram for your 1000th review. Cheers!
12:25 Please don't kick the bucket just yet!
I also drank a bottle that had the mist, as I advance the bottle consumption it got better. I bought another one, and stored it for later, I wish I got the same lot!!!
My first talisker 10 got me heavily into single malts. There was a very noticeable briny note that I fell in love with. In the following 3 bottles of talisker 10 I could not detect that note ever again.
I personally love Talisker, you’re right about the inconsistency though, get a good bottling of 10 though and it is good, I won’t be buying the 18 because of the ridiculous price increase, I think I paid £70 odd pounds for the 18 only 2 years ago. Ive got an 11 year old Indy bottling at the moment it’s very good, the best Talisker I’ve ever had was an 8yr old sherry cask Indy bottling, the sooty taste was like powdered chocolate.
Instead of saying on the label made by the sea twice! Can’t it say non chill filtered or natural colour! Bit more info ralfy totally agree!
in 14:50 when you say that someone forgot to open the filtration i stop to watch the video from the laughs😂😂😂😂
I've had the same experience with Talisker as you. I bought my first bottle of Talisker 10 around 10 years ago and happend to stumble on your fist review. Been a regular since. I loved Talisker for a really interesting lanoline note it used to have. It went really well with the phenolic notes. Around 5 years ago that note went away and some batches were less than good. Stopped drinking Talisker altogether. Picked up the newly packaged 10 today to see if anything has changed and saw you reviewed it. It's ok now. Not a bad whisky at all, but it lacks a lot of what made Talisker great. That said, I still think it's a decent whisky. I would rate it a little higher, as I actually enjoyed it.
I had a talisker 10 last year, around August, and also found some scotch mist appearing in the glass. Probably over the course of about 2-3 hours. Yes I’m a slow drinker ;-)
I don’t know squat about whisky. But, I know what I like. I bought a bottle of the 10yr old about a year ago and I really liked this whisky.
I recently had a few glasses of the current distillers edition and was pleasantly surprised, I wouldn't pay what they ask for it, but when somebody else is paying, it was not bad at all
Ralfy you talk about the ability of whisky to transport you... Talisker was one of the first distilleries I visited early in my whisky journey. I hope they continue improving the quality commensurate with the distillery's location
I haven't had the 10 year old for a while. The distillers edition has been my go to Talisker these days, and it has been pretty good. It is a shame to see such characterful malts are not delivering the quality. I hope this will change with Talisker!
Adding water is a such a nice bit of witchcraft- I was skeptical about it - but talisker, deanston, clynlish (spelling?) benefit so much from it
Old bottles of Talisker 10yo are absolute bangers!!!
Talisker 10 was one of the first whiskies I tried. And it was a very good start, back then.
Through the years I also picked up on the inconsistencies, shall we say, so I steered clear of it. And it bothered me.
Only recently I bought this exact bottle again (yes, in a super market, not one of the local specialist shops) as part of rekindling my love of single malts (stage: recalibration. Or, better put, setting a mark between mediocre, "popular" drams and integrity bottlings. For instance, an unopened bottle of Arran 10 is also on my shelf. Just saying 😁). I knew it has added colour in it (after all, in Germany they put it on label). I suspected it was chill-filtered - I have to open the bottle, add a bit of water and then I will come back to tell you my findings.
But I must say, it is such a relief seeing you giving it a decent malt mark! I can sample the bottle with hope, because it seems there may be some in it again...
It’s my favourite whisky ever
The older Talisker is one of my favorites. The new Talisker with the new label (when did that start ?), is much more peat forward.
By the way, any big plans for episode 1000 ?
Talisker is one of my favorites particularly when you consider its price point , all brands are pushing to get as much volume as they can . All in all a truly great dram.
Last bottle of 10yo I had pre covid was utter rank. It went from one of my favourite whiskies years ago to bottom of the pile. Maybe time to give it another try.
Talisker is way to expensive now in Canada to even consider.
myself and a couple of my esteemed colleagues recently obliterated a bottle of taliwhacker in glenlough campsite while at the recent TT gathering. After consuming the aforementioned tipple, along with several bottles of our favourite beers, we found, strangely, that there was an air of love and mutual respect for one another!
however, on sobering up, we were left scratching our heads in bewilderment!
I'd recommend consuming TWO bottles..... just for the hell of it😵💫
I had the 10 yr old years ago and loved it. I bought this 1ltr 45.8% at the airport recently leaving Glasgow. I kinda regret it now. For the same price I could’ve gotten Ardbeg 10 750ml. I’d just been to the Pot Still pub in Glasgow the day before and had tried a good few peaty Islay malts I’d been meaning to (the price of good whisky/whiskey in Ireland is insane) and had some nice stuff like Caol Ila 12 and the Ardbeg 5. Maybe the memory of those tainted the Talisker. It’s decent but short on the finish, scarcely peated and not very full bodied at all. I remembered Talisker as a rich, honeyed and quite peaty whisky.
Yes , it has changed and not for the good .
This was the bottle that turned me onto more complex whiskeys just a short 5-6 years ago. Unfortunately it is now 50% more expensive here in the Toronto area ($150) and it just doesnt have the luster for me that it used to
I have a soft spot in my heart for Talisker. Ralfy is right: the casks could be better and no need for colorant or other measures. Still, I think this is an excellent beginner whisky/enjoyable. I especially like the grapefruit zest note.
I was a fan of Talisker back in the 90s/00s when I was looking for an alternative to Brora….
Still have an unopened bottle of the distillery exclusive from early 2000s.
Wouldn’t it be good if it got back to its past glories
people have already mentioned the 45.8% = 80 proof. But as to how it ended up the bottling strength, I believe the distillery managers had some input in the Classics Malts bottlings when launched. Talsiker DM wanted to continue 80 proof bottling like pre-classic malts 8 year old Talisker. If only if I could remember where I learnt this from.....
82 IS GENEROUS.....this is nto the same whisky of 5-6-7 years ago.....
I did the JW green label comparison a month ago. Night and day. Gonna be brutal.
I haven't tasted a Talisker for some years now. Maybe I'll give it a try someday again - or maybe not
Recent bottle I purchased was a big improvement over the previous 2019 bottle. This time around it was not harsh and had a much sweeter profile. Also have unopened 2012. Well technically it’s from 2002, bottled in 2012. Anyone know if that year was good for this distillery?
I'm pretty sure the reason for the 45.8% is tradition. 45.8% ABV is 80 UK Proof. Many things including some of the Port Askaigs are also bottled at 45.8% ABV.
I too don’t understand the “need” for decimal percentages. I’m sure there’s more pretension behind it than anything else (“look how exact and scientific we are!”). I also don’t understand why proof exists (at least still here in the US since it’s really just twice the ABV percentage in liquors). Maybe it’s of use to brewing or something but to have it on the bottle when it’s just the simplest of mathematical translations for a percentage is superfluous. Just stick with percentages, and no decimals.
Disingenuous messaging has long overwhelmed the American whiskey industry, especially bourbon but will soon flood American Single Malt. I just consider it commercial propaganda, which is not relegated solely to major corporations. Many smaller distilleries are simply full of it.
45.8℅ abv is the exact percent at which the solids can form a mist. I think I 46℅ bottling are just rounding-up so that there's some margin . I do like this one. The best of the supermarket fodder.
Port Ruighe is pronounced Portree.
glad to see diagio have not f it up completely ;;
On your advice, I have begun expanding my collection's diversity, and bought my first bottle of rum! Venezuelan rum!
C.A.C.D. 2004 17 Y/O - Rumtown independent bottling
I think some malts were already losing quality in the ‘00s when compared to how they tasted in the ‘90s. I had a pretty tame Jura around ‘07 and I’ve never gone back to that brand since.
Personally I’ll hang on to my Talisker memories rather than risk money on new bottlings or put money into Diago’s pockets: there’s so much better out there.
Havent bought this since July 2020,didnt like rebranding and standard had decreased...
This is a whisky that has a special place in my heart because is the first single malt that I drank back when I was 22 years old. That being said, I moved to New Mexico, USA and the price here is ridiculous for the Talisker 10 YO the range is $90 to $100 which is not worth it. I like Talkiker but not at that price, I only buy it if I go to Texas which I could find it between $60 to $65. It’s really sad that most Scotch has these new upped prices which is making me really think about my purchases.
Buy the bourbon, bottled-in-bond quality.
I haven't bought this in a long time now, just pretty much spoilt for choice atm.
I would love to see you try/review Green Spot Chateau Montelena. See what you think of that Whiskey. 👍🏻🥃🥃
Saw this in Jordan airport for about 250 quid ha.
Hi Ralfy, i believe someone form the distillery noticed they where going on the wrong path, cause i just did the same practice pf adding water and let my dram renting from yesterday to today and it get cloudy as well. The Talisker 10 i have is from 2021 release, but i do not know if could it be or not from the same huge batch that yours. Regards!
to be honest talisker 10 is one of my favs , great value for money and jam packed with flavour
Use to be! Just reminder if you missed it 🤷♂️🥂🙋🏻♂️
Ralfy, I'd love for you to review some American single malt, it's a burgeoning category at the moment. Balcones makes a good one bottled at cask strength.
The labelling on the box for European countries clearly says with colouring. Does not refer to chill filter.
I was surprised how good this was, especially for its price range
When i was young everyone was saying don't buy the nas it's horrible, buy the 10 years old....Tonight i added a drop of big peat in a dram of aerstone 10 years old, its from the sea.