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  • @osmiphos9061
    @osmiphos9061 Месяц назад +20

    word of crota (adept) can get 96 range with an adept mod and killing wind active, which on d2foundry is nearly 39m

    • @osmiphos9061
      @osmiphos9061 Месяц назад +3

      Posterity doesn't get or need the adept mod and reaches 94 range or 38.5m

    • @osmiphos9061
      @osmiphos9061 Месяц назад +1

      Sightline Survey can get 89 range with killing wind getting it to only 36m and with keep away it goes down to 35m at 81 range

    • @xxsurveillance9912
      @xxsurveillance9912 29 дней назад +1

      True but killing wind activates after a kill. This 180 has a range perk active to help you in combat within that moment for 1v1s

  • @theF0R3N
    @theF0R3N Месяц назад +5

    I really like that shader! These vex guns take shaders really well

  • @ThallFather
    @ThallFather Месяц назад +1

    I love Frontier's Cry a lot. I don't have a great roll with this yet, but it's easily my favorite sounding gun.

  • @sonicshyper
    @sonicshyper Месяц назад +1

    If you using Storm Edge with Arc Weapon unFlinch aim, might be the best options to use, if only is 140 or 120 rpm

  • @MandrewTheFrog
    @MandrewTheFrog Месяц назад +17

    If you use Mask of Bakris with this roll it lets you 3-tap all resiliences it's kind of nutty!
    (Reaper + 2x arc surge then lets you keep it going for longer after you get a kill)

  • @Killasim1
    @Killasim1 Месяц назад +2

    Yup, I crafted mine last wk, with fragile/precision, it's definitely a legit 180.

  • @PapaHardel
    @PapaHardel Месяц назад

    I’ve got one with precision instrument and the new To The Pain perk, it feels pretty good imo

  • @gengartheghost6616
    @gengartheghost6616 Месяц назад +32

    Frost do more trials with Jake and Aztecoss, you three make a fun and enjoyable team to watch in trials

    • @jatochgaatjeniksaan3307
      @jatochgaatjeniksaan3307 Месяц назад +3

      Gluckgluckgluck

    • @drakker5482
      @drakker5482 Месяц назад +1

      @@jatochgaatjeniksaan3307 Are you choking on something?

    • @jatochgaatjeniksaan3307
      @jatochgaatjeniksaan3307 Месяц назад

      @@drakker5482 no but buddy sure was. The tripple dribble special

    • @legoshi6531
      @legoshi6531 Месяц назад +4

      ​@@jatochgaatjeniksaan3307Bro all your comments are negative, just because you can't enjoy anything doesn't mean you have to bring others down 💀

    • @legoshi6531
      @legoshi6531 Месяц назад

      I personally wanna see Jake, Frost, and zk. I thought I was gonna see the trio again on the very first trials of the new dlc but the opportunity is long gone, I hope they don't have any beef or anything.

  • @Johnny-Five
    @Johnny-Five Месяц назад

    Hey Frosty did you ever play Taken King back in the day? I recognize your voice you were with a buddy and told me you guys were trying to do something in that area in the Dreadnought where you gotta collect the worm dust then jump on the invisible places to get the chest.

  • @Reyesm02
    @Reyesm02 Месяц назад

    Haven’t had this much fun with a 180 since like the service revolver… 3ish years ago

  • @meandemeanor9034
    @meandemeanor9034 29 дней назад

    I love how when you stop firing, it low key sounds like a blaster from star wars.

  • @BuffGenji
    @BuffGenji Месяц назад +8

    Is there any reason for 180s to have such little handling? I feel like they could def juice the handling on 180s across the board, like up to 60s and 70s instead of 20s and 30s. They still wouldn’t be great but at least not feel so slow to use

    • @ned9542
      @ned9542 Месяц назад +2

      180s are a power crept relic of old destiny that Bungie has forgotten about unfortunately

    • @Efsneonhearts
      @Efsneonhearts Месяц назад +1

      ​@ned9542 they need a rpm change and a range/handling increase

    • @ned9542
      @ned9542 Месяц назад

      @@Efsneonhearts 100% agreed

    • @BuffGenji
      @BuffGenji 29 дней назад

      @@Efsneonheartsif they increase to 200 rpm, they’d have to do a bit less damage tho so they don’t get such fast TTKs just from radiant and similar damage sources. 3 taps at 200 rpm would be very fast

    • @Efsneonhearts
      @Efsneonhearts 29 дней назад

      @BuffGenji if they increase it to 200 rpm. It will just be a faster 4 tap. They are experimenting with damage perks right now, so as they stated previously they might put magnificent howl on a 180 soon as well. It all depends on how the archetype is treated. Which in that sense it definitely needs buffs and some changes

  • @omillones543
    @omillones543 Месяц назад +3

    Thats a glitch we use it on pve alote the npc only target to your head so if half or more than half of your head its glitch in a wall theres no hit box to hit

  • @rainztk
    @rainztk Месяц назад

    I literally don’t think I’ve ever used a 180 in crucible, but if I get the pattern for this then I may try it

  • @dankerbell
    @dankerbell Месяц назад

    this thing is great in both pve and pvp, i'm glad that some of these episode weapons are good because they look so good and sound great too

  • @strikebytestreaming1583
    @strikebytestreaming1583 Месяц назад

    My old service rovolver with outlaw & rampage three-taps pretty consistantly. you need that rampage to proc to get the tier 5 res 3-tap, but that is pretty doable.

    • @BREAKocean
      @BREAKocean 28 дней назад

      What's the range like

    • @strikebytestreaming1583
      @strikebytestreaming1583 27 дней назад

      @@BREAKocean Just did some testing and range is actually pretty decent. I don't think it has the range of a 140, but it's pretty close actually.

  • @Harrypociecha
    @Harrypociecha Месяц назад +9

    Does anyone remember service revolver?

    • @mikelarry1068
      @mikelarry1068 Месяц назад

      I do. Still use mine with impact reserves.

    • @nightworrior721
      @nightworrior721 Месяц назад

      Same

    • @axe2grind244
      @axe2grind244 Месяц назад

      Still have mine with outlaw and kill clip but even with accurized and range MW it still has no range lol.

  • @grneyedvillain2084
    @grneyedvillain2084 Месяц назад

    I kept a rapid hit, kill clip optative that I've been cooking with for this past week. If you kept one, try it out!

  • @shredstein
    @shredstein Месяц назад

    This can three tap all resil with Bakris, right?

  • @KusanagiGaming557
    @KusanagiGaming557 Месяц назад +1

    Where do you get that weapon? I got word of crota now i want this one

    • @jablon8151
      @jablon8151 Месяц назад +1

      It’s from the new seasonal activity

  • @jessenoirrouge8150
    @jessenoirrouge8150 Месяц назад +44

    Posterity would like to have a word with this guy

    • @rickiboulter3053
      @rickiboulter3053 Месяц назад +11

      I have mained posterity for yrs in pvp. It's not even close between the 2 these this new thing is definitely better. I know

    • @akeecheyta
      @akeecheyta Месяц назад +2

      Definitely new ones better. It has insane range

    • @blackpancake6354
      @blackpancake6354 Месяц назад

      posterity is PVE 180

    • @Hazelomg
      @Hazelomg Месяц назад

      posterity is just way worse lol

    • @dankerbell
      @dankerbell Месяц назад

      posterity is not good in pvp

  • @mannyprays1164
    @mannyprays1164 Месяц назад

    “Davik estapit”hahaha crazyyyy bro.

  • @totallynotlordemperorstars9531
    @totallynotlordemperorstars9531 28 дней назад

    now hold up, what about the lunas howl from last season

  • @user-ft5cm7si9x
    @user-ft5cm7si9x Месяц назад

    hey you should try khepris sting build

  • @johnsmart1827
    @johnsmart1827 28 дней назад

    Crafted one with Keep Away and EOTS and it's Great for PvP. Have to agree with you, the Best 180 for PvP.

  • @pvpallstardestiny3164
    @pvpallstardestiny3164 Месяц назад

    Malfeasance sitting over here like the best I 5 tap any range 😂

  • @erikkoch8801
    @erikkoch8801 Месяц назад

    180 are my fav. Got it crafted first day and over 3500 kills already lol love this thing

  • @Ohvurr_leveraged
    @Ohvurr_leveraged 15 дней назад

    I’m good with sidearms and kinda ass at hand cannons. This feels like the perfect in-between for me. This gun smokes.

  • @brlopez4
    @brlopez4 Месяц назад +1

    bro the “EH STOP IT” had me in tears. pinche abuelito

  • @robd.6960
    @robd.6960 29 дней назад

    Good video...but Malfeasance (with the catalyst) is definitely the best 180 hand cannon.

  • @sbinadero
    @sbinadero Месяц назад +144

    Survivors Epitaph has been out for over three years

    • @pradapasta
      @pradapasta Месяц назад +14

      💀

    • @TTV_FlashStep
      @TTV_FlashStep Месяц назад +96

      N it’s been shit for over 3 years too

    • @TravelersChosen
      @TravelersChosen Месяц назад +23

      Survivor’s Epitaph is slept on bro ngl

    • @Fizzbizz
      @Fizzbizz Месяц назад +16

      Look, as much as I like Survivor's Epitaph, it has nothing on this HC

    • @rickiboulter3053
      @rickiboulter3053 Месяц назад +3

      Not even close or the same slot

  • @johnh5909
    @johnh5909 Месяц назад +1

    I’m never going to Unsee the finger thing now

  • @xlRainlx
    @xlRainlx Месяц назад

    Yo if Bungie is okay with Sightline three tapping like this, then they need to make Not Forgotten a 180 again and replace Mag Howl on it with Precision Instrument. I miss my vanilly Not Forgotten, mang!

  • @ivywhittaker1508
    @ivywhittaker1508 Месяц назад

    One I got had shot range tucked in pvp

  • @nickwhiteX
    @nickwhiteX Месяц назад +1

    my first game of trials i matched up with frostbolt and got smacked with this gun

  • @banditoanonimo
    @banditoanonimo Месяц назад +4

    keep away enhanced is also on the optative

  • @mmmYUNGhumma
    @mmmYUNGhumma Месяц назад

    5:54 Come on editors, he handed that one to you

  • @micahschatz8001
    @micahschatz8001 Месяц назад

    I've been using this so much. It's actually great

  • @lamp_god9774
    @lamp_god9774 28 дней назад +1

    One thing i find extremely comical about the hate that 180s recieve in pvp is that if you were around during the Not Forgotten/ Luna's Howl days before the chage to their rpm as well as the Magnificent Howl perk rework 180s were top tier meta choice and those 2 specifically legit just made the game feel like pve while u were in pvp it was such a problem they changed the guns rpm completely on top of when they un did sunsetting and brough Lunas howl back they changed the perk because it was too strong ive always loved 180s just gotta learn how to use them and i committed to that back in those days and still dont understand why the hate for them is still so normal

  • @Abar31
    @Abar31 Месяц назад +1

    First 180 to have keep away… optative exists

  • @tayloranderson1993
    @tayloranderson1993 Месяц назад

    Sights are cleean!!

  • @lDeadshockl
    @lDeadshockl Месяц назад +3

    I would like precision instrument more but I swear everyone I play against in control has like 100 resil even on hunters 😭 so getting the 3 tap do be kinda hard in comp modes I see its appeal tho

  • @DopeGetsBizzy
    @DopeGetsBizzy Месяц назад +2

    The Trust is definitely the best 180 imo but this one is pretty nice

  • @lamp_god9774
    @lamp_god9774 28 дней назад

    Its funny as someone who whole heartedly enjoys 180 rpm hand canons this one is very good in pve but i still prefer my rapid hit kill xlip survivors epitaph for pvp i land 3 taps far more often w it than i do w my sightl8ne survey but i will need to try it again as i still need 1 more red border before i can craft it

  • @macinawwolverine4520
    @macinawwolverine4520 Месяц назад +2

    My encore/ adagio valpecula would like a few words...

    • @groovydolph
      @groovydolph Месяц назад

      Vulpecula is still my fave meme weapon with explosive payload. The flinch is out of this world lmao.

    • @macinawwolverine4520
      @macinawwolverine4520 Месяц назад

      @@groovydolph yeah I've got a few of these guns, it's my favorite 180 HC explosive payload/ ensemble and a shoot to loot headstone and another encore also with explosive payload lol I just kept buying the good ones from banshee. I believe my first one came from dares tho and don't sleep on adagio with 180 HC.
      That perk isn't that good on most weapons but for hand cannons it's good cause we're used to 140's and instead of a 4 tap it turns into a 3 which makes it feel much more dominant in any gun fight.

  • @IGniTo100
    @IGniTo100 Месяц назад

    Damn, this gun sounds kinda crazy.

  • @MrAndrew0511
    @MrAndrew0511 Месяц назад +1

    Favorite 180 in the game brah they like only 4 180's left in the game.

  • @demondmccray1535
    @demondmccray1535 Месяц назад +2

    How could you forget not forgeten

  • @rob3497
    @rob3497 Месяц назад +4

    Can’t take a 180 seriously in PvP lol

    • @BREAKocean
      @BREAKocean 28 дней назад

      You can use anything in random 6s

  • @dylanlasky2389
    @dylanlasky2389 Месяц назад

    "Davik! E stop eet!"

  • @DrMetalpin
    @DrMetalpin Месяц назад

    Fragile Focus / Encore

  • @uzifrr
    @uzifrr 29 дней назад +1

    I would agree with this video, but trust exists. that thing might as well be a 140 with how good it is lmao

  • @sapphiros_word
    @sapphiros_word Месяц назад

    Radel ortiz meme made it to destiny, let’s goooo

  • @thatoneguy1741
    @thatoneguy1741 Месяц назад

    Literally got fragile focus precision instrument first drop

  • @TheSkaterjt83
    @TheSkaterjt83 29 дней назад

    I can picture many out of context clips from this video

  • @Iocusamoenus
    @Iocusamoenus Месяц назад

    aldengeris made me buss

  • @paulmoviusshadowthorpe1786
    @paulmoviusshadowthorpe1786 Месяц назад

    Tbf frosty would be op with a pea shooter 😭

  • @albertomonaco9626
    @albertomonaco9626 20 дней назад

    Bro forgot Optative with Keep Away

  • @user-sx1jp4sx3r
    @user-sx1jp4sx3r 28 дней назад

    not gonna lie just crafted it it kinda slaps

  • @juju-madness1614
    @juju-madness1614 Месяц назад

    My guy said “I can use it and find success with it” like bruh you’re Frosty you can use anything 😂

  • @Mr_Sinville
    @Mr_Sinville 25 дней назад

    Survivors Epitaph and Trust over there crying in the corner.

  • @MegaAssasin47
    @MegaAssasin47 Месяц назад +2

    i still prefer my TRUST. Love the little guy

  • @Oopster37
    @Oopster37 Месяц назад

    Poor Optative

  • @Banaani0
    @Banaani0 Месяц назад +2

    Optative has keep away that you can pair with a damage perk

    • @rickiboulter3053
      @rickiboulter3053 Месяц назад

      Way over your head

    • @cogitoy7692
      @cogitoy7692 Месяц назад +1

      This thing has 3tap potential in neutral. No kills required.

    • @rickiboulter3053
      @rickiboulter3053 Месяц назад

      @@cogitoy7692 like I said. Way over this guy's head

    • @Banaani0
      @Banaani0 Месяц назад +1

      This is one of those cases where irony hits hard. Frost said that this is the ONLY 180 with keep away and i am just pointing that out. Way over your head back at you.

  • @yzystarkpz496
    @yzystarkpz496 Месяц назад +1

    Kiil clip ins't better?

  • @tazzarelli82
    @tazzarelli82 Месяц назад +1

    Hoping to never hear frost say yummy yum yum again.

  • @lllforgelll2421
    @lllforgelll2421 Месяц назад

    For us normies I'd say not in trials or something but this roll is SOOOO fun in general. As you said, really crispy!

  • @jart122
    @jart122 Месяц назад

    I wounder sometimes. If I were to do what he did where he has low health or even show my face, I would get one tap.

  • @R377R0
    @R377R0 Месяц назад

    Optative has Keep Away on it. 180 rpm handcannon.

  • @travisblankenship5167
    @travisblankenship5167 Месяц назад +1

    I want to use hawkmoon in crucible again hope bungie gets it fixed quick

  • @naldizzle567
    @naldizzle567 Месяц назад

    i knew i was going to be in this video getting smacked up.

  • @kingufenjohnson5754
    @kingufenjohnson5754 29 дней назад

    “I prefer top”

  • @molynine
    @molynine Месяц назад

    Keep away +eye of the storm is my god roll

    • @rickiboulter3053
      @rickiboulter3053 Месяц назад +3

      Why would you take eye of the storm over the ability to 3 tap. 180s don't need accuracy help

  • @jatochgaatjeniksaan3307
    @jatochgaatjeniksaan3307 Месяц назад

    Word of crota?

  • @Itspatrck
    @Itspatrck Месяц назад +7

    Ngl Frost might be the most talented d2 pvp Hispanic player in the game rn wow

    • @arianadonis4099
      @arianadonis4099 Месяц назад

      Meh

    • @xFluffyDevilx
      @xFluffyDevilx Месяц назад +9

      Too specific ... LMAO

    • @afri2n
      @afri2n Месяц назад +2

      ⁠​⁠@@xFluffyDevilx💀💀💀most talented hispanic d2 streamer whose name starts with an ‘i’ and ends with a ‘frostbolt’

    • @lydiamimosa
      @lydiamimosa Месяц назад

      @@afri2n im dead but he does have a separate spanish channel in the description

  • @blakebigler8337
    @blakebigler8337 Месяц назад

    I am telling you, desperate measures is the play over instrument

    • @RagnaRebellion
      @RagnaRebellion Месяц назад

      Nope

    • @blakebigler8337
      @blakebigler8337 Месяц назад

      @@RagnaRebellion yea because I just see everyone running 5> resilience, instead of getting either a kill with the gun, a melee kill if any kind, or a grenade kill of any kind for a 3 tap. Brains please, use

    • @RagnaRebellion
      @RagnaRebellion Месяц назад

      @@blakebigler8337 you're just wrong

    • @blakebigler8337
      @blakebigler8337 Месяц назад

      @@RagnaRebellion are you like 8 years old arguing like this? You can't even make a case on it at all. You're just saying nuh uh nuh uh 💀

  • @rickiboulter3053
    @rickiboulter3053 Месяц назад

    Ive been using this for days. Thanks for telling everyone here comes the nerf to precision instrument.

  • @BrandonLebreton-hr3nl
    @BrandonLebreton-hr3nl Месяц назад +2

    Correct me if I am wrong but…. I think this has more range than 140’s…. So can we buff 140’s range and 120’s please?

    • @BrandonLebreton-hr3nl
      @BrandonLebreton-hr3nl Месяц назад +1

      I mean on eventide with a 70 range slide shot rose I had full dmg falloff and the other guy got a 4tap on me because I knew he had a 180 and I was like yeah, I’m just gunna ape his team mates nearby who are in a 2v2 since I’m going away from him and he has a 180 hc. But nah….. I rewatched the clip and I took no dmg from anything else and only left cover once I had full health.

    • @ned9542
      @ned9542 Месяц назад

      This does not have more range than 140s.

  • @anphoneron
    @anphoneron Месяц назад

    I liked the part where he yelled

  • @TheJordanFraga
    @TheJordanFraga Месяц назад

    whats a birb??????????

  • @CHEA7CODE
    @CHEA7CODE Месяц назад

    Fragile focus over keep away

    • @joselazo6840
      @joselazo6840 Месяц назад +2

      >Fragile focus deactivates
      >You don’t have range
      >Die
      >Switch to Keep Away

    • @CHEA7CODE
      @CHEA7CODE Месяц назад

      @joselazo6840 Thanks for feedback, knowledge is power my friend 🫶

    • @rickiboulter3053
      @rickiboulter3053 Месяц назад

      No 74 range with keepaway +bonuses is better

    • @CHEA7CODE
      @CHEA7CODE Месяц назад

      @@rickiboulter3053 I agreed in other dudes comment, had my info wrong.

  • @christopherniceley8848
    @christopherniceley8848 17 дней назад

    Okay if you think 180s have a purpose in the actual game lol

  • @rampage8617
    @rampage8617 Месяц назад +1

    Still a 180 tho.

    • @rickiboulter3053
      @rickiboulter3053 Месяц назад

      A 180 that practically better then every 140 in the game right now. 140s can't get a 0.57 ttk without trying.

    • @ned9542
      @ned9542 Месяц назад

      @rickiboulter3053 You're either new to the game, at a low skill bracket on console, or are trolling and it's hard to tell which because 140s are better in every capacity

    • @rickiboulter3053
      @rickiboulter3053 Месяц назад

      @ned9542 why did you remove your comment? Fuqing dumbazz 😆 🤣 😂 you're the one that doesn't know sh1t here bud

    • @rickiboulter3053
      @rickiboulter3053 Месяц назад

      @ned9542 or you don't know sh1t.

    • @Efsneonhearts
      @Efsneonhearts Месяц назад

      ​@@ned9542and you're ignorant. I easily go flawless with my posterity every week. They're usable

  • @speedy0017
    @speedy0017 Месяц назад

    Frost nooooooo. I know some people have made videos on it already but I love this gun and it’s been kind of staying under the radar so far and after this I’m afraid people are going to start running this a lot more.

    • @ned9542
      @ned9542 Месяц назад

      No one is gonna run this thing in any kind of competitive pvp you're good

  • @glenyy2975
    @glenyy2975 Месяц назад

    People willing to use anything but sunshot in the energy because they can’t aim?

  • @Zzucc
    @Zzucc Месяц назад

    "Nah jk he was cheating" 😂

  • @tombamford3782
    @tombamford3782 29 дней назад

    Bungie is never going to make unique and fun weapons when D2 CCs hype up every “new” hand cannon they put out. This thing will be forgotten in no time at all.

  • @Dmaaaain
    @Dmaaaain Месяц назад

    Seems decent!! But no matter what weapon u use in trials.. the Kovhostov still wins the encounter sadly enough. Every time bingie comes out with an update or new gun, it's so damn unbalanced and overpowered. Annoying.

  • @jasemalmarshoodi
    @jasemalmarshoodi Месяц назад

    1st comment

  • @ned9542
    @ned9542 Месяц назад

    180s are horribly uncompetitive... Slow base ttk without the peak shot benefits of 120s or 140s on top of having just worse stats

  • @generalnawaki
    @generalnawaki Месяц назад +1

    oh look, a reskinned Austringer.

  • @Dark_Link197
    @Dark_Link197 23 дня назад

    Ayo sus af lol

  • @user-vg6bv3fp9y
    @user-vg6bv3fp9y Месяц назад

    same slot as nessas oblation no thanks!!!

  • @BombStars
    @BombStars Месяц назад +1

    No shot he’s actually promoting a 180 bro… and I thought me liking wardens law was bad enough

  • @pirate_duck4985
    @pirate_duck4985 Месяц назад +2

    Yes, yes it's an awesome 180rpm. My biggest problem with it though? It's not a 120rpm 😭😭😭
    I was really hoping we were gunna get a top tier 120rpm after Igneous was removed from Trials. Add a Craftable 120 with jacked stats that only get better the more you use it! Although we do have Echoes 2 & 3 to come so maybe!!?!

    • @zenith1391
      @zenith1391 Месяц назад +1

      Will acts 2 and 3 release more weapons? Or just more story content?

    • @RavenUwU605
      @RavenUwU605 Месяц назад

      The next two acts don’t have anymore hand cannons, there is a craftable two burst pulse tho

    • @pirate_duck4985
      @pirate_duck4985 Месяц назад

      @@zenith1391 If you look at the season pass you can see hidden weapons.

    • @Zurrke
      @Zurrke Месяц назад

      ​@@zenith1391there will be more weapons in act 2 + 3 along with story, but we do already know what they will be

    • @pirate_duck4985
      @pirate_duck4985 Месяц назад

      @@RavenUwU605 Where did you see the actual weapons? Kinda bummed no 120 if that's the case!

  • @BarbWaltersMusic
    @BarbWaltersMusic Месяц назад +1

    COPIUM

  • @Glen67z
    @Glen67z Месяц назад +2

    This gun sucks man, don’t lie

  • @elysiumcore
    @elysiumcore Месяц назад +1

    Too bad it sounds gross 😔😂

    • @BeeBeeBeeLol
      @BeeBeeBeeLol Месяц назад +3

      it sounds like a bootleg star wars blaster I fkin love it lol

  • @timothylaveau
    @timothylaveau Месяц назад

    This gun is unusable. The firing sound is ridiculous and annoying.

  • @gokhansaylgan4197
    @gokhansaylgan4197 Месяц назад +1

    You 4/5 tap with that useless gun, Frost generally 3 tap with rose and done the job. I did not like this hc 👎