A SWING & A MISS: Socialist tries to big league Michael Knowles, fails publicly
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- Опубликовано: 7 ноя 2024
- There's a reason people from all over the world rely on the AMERICAN healthcare system.
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I'm Canadian and he's absolutely right. It's lovely to have "free" healthcare but when my dad needed his hip replaced and was told it would take years here, he went to America.
im sure you have the right to pay for a private service,fell free if you dont like it
@@FRONT-rc1qg What evidence do you have to be sure?
@@FRONT-rc1qg you must have money and no compassion
@@FRONT-rc1qg You have a point there, I'm happy with it personally but Michael also has a point that the united states are the reason that worldwide medicine has advanced so rapidly. All I'm saying is, you cannot get top-notch healthcare in a socialist system.
@@yuwannakno1269 It's government intervention that Healthcare is expensive.
My attention was drawn to the young man clutching his dead argument, and smiling as if he'd won.
That mindset is more common than it should be, when they believe themselves to be right, even as their stances crumble before them. They do not listen.
I agree, how can you reason with people who are constantly saying "believe 2+2=5, or you're racist" ?
It's a cultish mentality, tied to identity and emotion and downright narcissism in most cases.
You just described Donald Trump and his supporters
I used to be on the left about quite a few things. Then i met my bf and he had the patience to debate several topics with me. Each and every time, it would come to the point that I couldn't sensibly counter what he was laying down for me without sounding real dumb. The problem is most leftists don't want to listen bc they believe they hold the moral high ground and are exceedingly emotional. Almost all of their opinions etc are based on feelings rather than logic.
@@randrozguidroz6485 that explains why we so often see Trump supporters get shit on with facts and logic... oh wait
@@jennag3226 You are so right!
I remember being in college and knowing everything, Then I graduated.
The astonishing but predictable thing about this student is the ignorance. Universities today are not training students to learn the facts, then debate with reason and intelligence.
They end up voting out of ignorance for the wrong people for the wrong reasons, then wondering why things go so wrong and creating dysfunctional democracy
You are not alone, greetings, from Balikpapan, Indonesia, An Universcity, ex student, who are not graduate. Ok. Bye.
What’s the saying If your not a liberal in your youth your heartless if you still a liberal in your 30’s your stupid.
Self realization is awesome isn't it?
Oh yeah buddy. I hated school.
Awesome job sharing/explaining the truth. Keep up the good work!
Here's a plan: Anyone in the US that thinks Socialized Medicine is the way to go should be required to receive their care at Veteran Affairs. When the government controls your healthcare, the patient suffers.
well said
Tell me about it! I am a Nam Vet and try to stay away from DVA Hospitals!
Medicaid is ALREADY the most abused system out there & EVERYONE on welfare is on it including untold numbers of illegals who've paid NOTHING into it.
The VA is a damn shame. We should be ashamed as a country that we allow our vets to get such shoddy treatment.
Maybe they should take a trip to Cuba to see with their own eyes what socialist medicine is.
Btw I am Cuban. Living in the USA and I can speak for myself.
The socialist system didn’t work. Is not working and will never work.
People get it out of the system.
"It's a huge mistake to judge a system by its intention, rather than by its results" Milton Friedman.
Ya kinda like the BLM founder buying mansions
Of course intent matters though
@@Andrew-th8jk They do very much matter, but what are more important are the results.
@@iobject1421 im not denying that at all, its just important not to forget that.
Judging without understanding destroys both.
He says: "Our health care is rationed by our wallets."
His solution: Ration health care by other people's wallets.
Socialism in a nutshell.
Can’t we say everything is rationed by our wallets?
@@stephencollins1479 These people are spending OTHER people's money. It's one reason why health care is so expensive. Neither the provider nor the recipient is paying for the service. There's no incentive to keep prices down.
@@Charlie-ii5rr being a socialist myself , of course i would love to see more free healthcare countries rather than private one. But I also would like to see people taking care of their health and not taking advantage of this free health care just because it s free. I would pay my health care taxes based on how much i drink , smoke , eat shit etc etc , cause i perfectly understand that a healthy person with not problem whatsoever cant pay the same taxes as an unhealthy person by choice. It is still socialism though.
@@kefamo83vr Roberto, there is no such thing as FREE health care. There is no free education. If someone gets it; someone pays for it. It is just shifting the cost to someone else.
He is probably still in school, drinking the socialist kool-aid. I am hopeful that he will grow up at some point and realize he is dead wrong.
"facts over feelings" he said while constantly saying thousands die in the streets. He presented feelings, not facts
He was overly emotional from the beginning and it was apparent. Also very nervous.
Yes, he got it ass backwards, like every liberal indoctrinated student does....
Those thousands dying in the streets are from either gunshot wounds or drug overdoses. Not lack of healthcare.
I have a friend that lives in Canada. She told the truth about socialized healthcare. She explained you have to have an appointment to see a doctor. Those appointments are backed up 6 months. And every time you go, you don’t see the same doctor every time. She said it’s horrible. Especially if you have a serious illness or condition.
When my husband was scheduled for heart surgery, we found out the hospital didn’t accept our health insurance. We got word the night before to go through the ER. He had his surgery, and the insurance company was great about paying what they did.
Classic leftist projection.
Guy was an idiot. Plain and simple
Please send him to Cuba ✌🏼
Or Japan... South Korea... Taiwan... Germany... France... Belgium...
Try again.
@@valeenoi2284
Those countries healthcare is waaaay better than cuba.
I have relatives who have just enough money to travel to Mexico from cuba to get care and Mexico's healthcare isn't even that great.
@@valeenoi2284 I don’t care were he goes. Just go
@@valeenoi2284 I notice you keep skipping the comments of the people providing actual examples of how horrifying it is to have to use socialized medicine. I don't think your zingers are carrying the weight you think they are....
@@jmmywyf4lyf Wow, I like her comment a whole lot better than yours. You're criticizing her for which comments she chooses to respond to? Are you serious?
I'm a nurse, been for 15 years not once has any hospital denied care to anyone whether they could afford care or not.
@@navarrenavarre Yuup, but at least they are still alive to try to pay the ridiculously high bills. We need reform to a great system, not a new system.
That's what i have been telling morons for over 20yrs.
I don't have insurance and claim indigent whenever i go to the ER. I am put on a sliding scale payment plan. Which i pay directly to the state of Florida at only $10 a month.
Can't complain
@@smu414141 yeah sure, there it is a great solution, none has ever thinked about it that way, lets just keeping repeating this argument whenever someone says something diferent , in the meantime another person chooses to call a uber instead of a ambulance, another person goes bankrupt
@ChinaJoe BigGuy sure, of course, let’s fill it out all those other units, let’s leave our business only to those who can pay, let these hospitals make an unrealistic effort to meet what we reject
@@shanebeck8559 you are a indigent??
I love how college students think they are being so smart by saying "That's anecdotal" to dismiss a claim. A story or an event should _not_ automatically dismissed as anecdotal evidence. It should only be dismissed if the anecdote is uncorroborated, or if the story ignores overall statistics, or otherwise does not support the claim.
My 4 year old son was diagnosed with cancer. We didnt have health insurance.
He is now 20 years old. Our system works.
When my daughter was twelve, she developed appendicitis. We had really crappy health insurance that only covered about 10% of the bill. I was unemployed and simply could not afford to pay the rest, so I didn't. It went on my credit. After a few months, the debt collectors stopped calling and seven years later, it dropped off my credit altogether. There's no reason to file bankruptcy because you owe medical debt. Why people do is beyond me.
@@TXKafir I belong to the "Pay $5.00 a month" cohort.
@@horseman4now At $5 per month, I would've had that debt paid off in about 300 years.
The funny thing is that nobody ever offered me a payment plan or a settlement. They just stopped calling and wrote it off.
I guess they make enough money elsewhere that they can afford to eat one every now and then.
@Anthony Abbett thank you Anthony
It doesn't always work out that way. Socialized medicine is not the answer though. We need more competition and everyone should have to buy health insurance just like you buy car insurance.
Scariest words one can hear are "We're from the government and we're here to help."
Lol xD
Or Biden in his last speech, "we the people, is the government, you and I"
The government is us, so we should trust ourselves since we are the government 😂
@Troy Gene try oan news or newsmax, epoch times.
Hi Dave Ramsey
@@andrewf4623 I think Dave Ramsey's approach is ultra conservative and I also think a one-size-fits-all works well if you are selling something (which Dave is).
What I do like about him is there is education, increased understanding, with those who follow his material. But to me, that's the BASIC thing missing, people are on average smart enough. They lack information and education so they can make their own decisions. Failing that, I get the success of a Ramsey approach where you just stop thinking and start obeying. There are worse approaches than Dave.
For me, if a week goes by where I have failed to gain some better understanding, progress and gain on the subject of money and finance, it was a wasted week. I could probably study Dave's material in less than a week and it might help me with a bit more data, but probably not. I was born with the discipline, delayed gratification, caution in my genes somehow. If you have none of that, I don't even think a robotic approach like Dave's would help that person.
I’m from Quebec. Our health system has been failing since the 90’s.
School system
Health system
You name it, we fail it and every political party in Québec embrace socialism and authoritarianism in a form or another.
It's disgusting.
@@TheMauviet of course they do, it allows them total power. And people are thick as shit and give them the power willingly whilst cheering and clapping.
I live in Québec and our system is fantastic.
@@JoeLouisPepsi you should talk to the health care workers. They have been fighting for better working conditions, not salary, since the 1990’s.
@@annel5 love how they don't respond
When a liberal quotes “facts over feelings” you know they are losing
My mother is dead today from a completely operable condition due to "socialized medicine" and would be alive today instead.
Sorry to hear that.
i'm sorry for your loss.
I’m so sorry ❤️
I know a guy who died of cancer because he couldn't afford to get early screening. He found out about it when it was too late, and this was preventable. Welcome to America.
I am so sorry 😭
Children always want to help people but don't realize the cost.
College Punk: We deserve free healthcare!
Me: I deserve free lawn care... when can I expect you to show up and mow my lawn?
College Punk: Wait, what?
@@Mr.Ekshin 😂😂😂💯❗
So true, in Canada socialized medicine of course people pay for it in insanely high taxes. There is no free ride.
@@eviegarnet3845 - The democrat "solution" of placing a huge federal bureaucracy on top of the American healthcare system, in the hopes of making it run better and cheaper... is like placing a fat bureaucrat on top of a marathon runner, in the hopes that it will make him run faster and further.
The reality is that they doubled most people's healthcare costs, and created a worse system in every way imaginable.
None these kids ever played fable 3
Also I am a Canadian and our health care system is an absolute joke. Citizens who claim its free are out of their minds, we are taxed to death to pay for a bad health care system!
@Make sure ya gt da msg it's part of the cost/population control measures. Remember they care about your wellbeing until it cost more than they can extort from you.
And to make matters worse, if you have come down to the States for a serious operation, which many Canadians do, then you have to pay for it out of pocket.
I lived in Canada for 4 years and our family doctor just prescribed antibiotics over the phone instead of seeing you unless you might be dying
I’m from Yuma Az where a SH*T ton of Snowbirds go when they retire. People don’t realize the elderly in Canada retire to warm spots to get away from their healthcare not just the weather. In fact, 10% of the Canadian population are ExPat. Think about that, the healthcare system in Canada essentially decimates the population annually as it ages. LMAO! I think I’m the only person that realizes that little fact
@Make sure ya gt da msg i personally don't know anyone who's had to wait extremely long periods of time for health care. the cases are triaged for priority, so if your case is urgent, you get right in, if you don't then maybe you wait a bit longer. people aren't really dying in the streets while waiting, unless they are stubborn and just want to 'prove a point'.
I am a physician in Florida and know thousands of people come from the Caribbean and are never denied health care if they go to an ED. It's a huge expense but it's done.
"It's amazing that people who think that we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals and medication somehow think we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, medication and the government bureaucracy to administer it." - Thomas Sowell
Dumping a giant bloated federal bureaucracy on top of the existing healthcare infrastructure, and thinking that will somehow make it run better, cheaper, and more efficiently ... is like claiming you could put fat bureaucrats on the backs of marathon runners to make them run faster.
Love that line. We can't pay for it now but let's add a layer of bureaucracy on top of it. No, that won't increase costs at all. Government is known for being efficient with resources. Exactly what happened with Obamacare. All our costs increased.
damn good quote thank you
Yes, that's why I think we can pay for the doctors, hospitals too.
That somewhat misses the point. Every country with a socialised healthcare system forces price controls onto the suppliers which brings the cost down. That’s why the UK despite having the National healthcare system pays significantly proportionally less than the US
My sister-in-law was living in Canada when she started having symptoms of MS. She was told she could be seen in about six months, so she came to the United States for treatment a week later. Her husband eventually took a job in the US so they could move get the healthcare she needed without commuting on a regular based bracket and forth between the US and Canada.
In another instance, I had a conversation with my dentist about the organ transplants I had, which caused me to cancel my last appointment with him. He told me he was from Lebanon, and if he was back there and needed medical attention care, he would come to the US for care and anyone who thinks they will get better medical care in another country is nuts.
US healthcare is virtually on demand if it's not government addled.
@@spikedpsycho2383
Thousands of people die in waiting lists for socialized healthcare.
A million examples is still just anecdote when you have paradise dancing in your head.
Japan's healthcare is pretty good, but not quite up to America's standard in some areas.
I just wish the AMA would be gone, so healthcare costs could come down in America.
I lived in Canada for 6 years...yea ...we pay lower for our insurance but heck, but the TREATMENT is AWFUL! I had an emergency, instead of giving me MRI, they just did X-ray. Instead of me put in a cast, they just gave me MS, T3 for pain. BS, after moving to the US, that injury still bothered me. After 10 yrs of that accident, my dr here in US asked me to have an MRI, and he found out that it did not heal properly, even surgery could not correct it 100%. YEA Canada health care system SUCKS!
He's absolutely right! Here in the U.S nobody is turned away at the emergency room. We have programs in place for people with lower incomes at the hospitals. I was surprised to learn that not a lot of people know about these programs. Programs that sometimes if you meet the requirements, will pay your bill.
Not just that but it's the law that no person can be denied care due to lack of insurance or the ability to pay. If someone dies from lack of healthcare it's because they did not want to get up and go.
People in Urban areas are 100% aware of Emergency Rooms being free Healthcare. Its actually the single greatest reason against free Healthcare, because when people know they won't have to pay for anything they go for the most mundane things and the lines are SOO long.
If you, God forbid, have an actual Emergency you have to pray that your relatives shove their way through rows of people to get to the nurse because people go to the ER for the most ridiculous reasons because they know it's free.
@@CasshernSinz1613 Emergency rooms in America prioritize serious cases first. If you come in with chest pain after a guy with a nose bleed, you're getting taken back first. You aren't standing in some long line.
@@CasshernSinz1613
Most people do not use the Emergency rooms for healthcare. 90% of Americans have health insurance and the other 10% then have to use various programs.
@@bighands69 ...I never said "most people" anything. I'm fully aware the vast majority of Americans use health insurance. Learn how to read basic English and if you think I'm being a jerk, yeah, I tend to be when someone blatantly ignores what I wrote to make a nonsense point.
I’m Assyrian from Iraq, I’ve been blessed living in USA since 1995🙏🏼
No I don’t want free healthcare no I don’t want socialism no I don’t want tyranny.
“I love my America”🇺🇸💪🏽
Seems you have the qualities and attitude of being a good American...
People who come here love USA kids who live here despise usa
Well said my brother
Welcome to America. We are as blessed to have you here as you are to be here. :-)
And we appreciate you're being here!
From the UK, 90% of the NHS is terrible. A bottomless money pit. Provides second rate service. Needs dispanding.
There is a statue of Christ in the Florida Keys. It was donated by an Italian Industrialist whose son needed the best medical care to survive a potentially fatal illness. He came to the United States for that surgery and upon the success of the surgery, donated the Christ statue. He could have gone anywhere in the world.
@Cono Barbera Take an English class before you post - should be: he could have GONE anywhere in the world.
Yeah, sure, he certainly could have gone anywhere else in the world and his son would be dead and the keys wouldn't have a graven image of what we think our savior looked like.
Luckily for him and his son he chose america, what almost everyone else in the world would do, except of course those wonderfully woke among us, who use it but then piss and moan about it incessantly while trying to destroy it for the rest of us awakened many!
@Cono Barbera IF you're an Italian millionair, yes.
Florida keys has worst healthcare ever
Key west... horrible
No one goes to key west for healthcare lol
@@KingLindz Your point? I did not make a claim as to the quality of healthcare in Key West. The claim was the quality of healthcare in the United States which is why the very wealth Italian businessman donated the Christ Statue to Key Largo at Pennycamp State Park. Wake up Lindsay.
As a Canadian, there is plenty of limitation and people suffer !!!
Yuppp, lets not forget that we are literally relying right now on(you guessed it) American vaccines, one of them they didn't even want to use. They just threw it our way like the peasants we are.
@@sHmAaa It doesn't matter IMHO ... I will NOT take the Vaccine, I am very well-read of the issues. I was, more importantly, speaking about general health and remedies that Canadians have no control over because we have no choice in time-sensitive procedures and remedies
@@DevilDog369Keep this short ? LOL, I am Pfizer 2-dose series COVID vaccinated NOT FDA approved completed 1-month ago but still have TMI different side effects which last few days at a time. Personally, have ALWAYS been healthy, MAYBE the Cold once every 3-4 years POSSIBLY Flu at best once every 5-6 years, but now OMG. My Point, if I had to do it over again - NO Thanks to Family Members Selfish Reasons making the Appointment UNRELATED for my health benefit. Yes, I reported this to BOTH my Primary Physician and 2-separate calls to Pfizer Each lasting 3-hours total 6-hours of my time. Blah blah blah.
@@bencuraza6503 sorry to hear that I hope you get well. 🙏 godspeed
The Canadian system of Medicare is not free - big taxes. Long waits for specialist appointments and outdated materials.
I have a spot on my lung noticed after an X-ray I had in December to check pneumonia. They want to have a closer look. My appointment for a CT scan is June 18th. Hope it’s nothing to worry about and not an aggressive form of cancer. Government run health care is not the answer. The answer is controlling politicians to keep big pharma in line. Pit controls in place to eliminate driving Heath care costs.
I was staffed in the ED of a hospital for 2 years and there are signs everywhere stating that is is illegal to not provide Healthcare to anyone that walks into the department.
It's difficult to win a debate with an intelligent person, but impossible to win against an ignorant one.
I am a cancer survivor and very thankful to have the healthcare system we have in these United States. To get through the surgeries and the treatments, I had to pay the high deductibles and out of pocket expenses of my insurance plan; It took a little while, but I got them paid. When I was headed into one of the five surgeries, a nurse whispered in my ear, attempting to offer me some comforting words. She said, "I am not sure how you got to see this surgeon so quickly, but he's the best. I am glad you have him since you have this complicated surgery." I agreed and she continued: "Just to show you how good he is, there are people from around the world who come here for this doctor to operate on them. Many come with suitcases full of money to pay. Even though they have surgeons and hospitals in their countries, they want to come here because of the excellent care." Again, I agreed. I write all of that to say: 1. I am grateful for a healthcare system that is very good. 2. I am grateful the government didn't limit my care based on some chart of numbers or actuarial tables. 3. Though I didn't have a suitcase full of money, I was able to make the payments so that I could afford the surgeries. There are flaws in these United States, sure; it's filled with flawed people. But with all the flaws, warts and problems, this is still the greatest country in the world; I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. There are opportunites. There are possibilities for making dreams come true. I am thankful to be alive today because of this great country and the freedoms we have.
A family member close to me was able to have two lung operations in London extremely quickly by one of the top VAT surgeons in the world. That was under the NHS, they diagnosed the case and treated it within a few weeks/month. It was a scary and daunting journey but the operations cost nothing, the MRI, CAT, X-rays cost nothing. The hundreds if not thousands of pounds worth of medicine were free and the cost £9.75 a month. I've seen it work, and I'm very thankful for the NHS. That isnt to say theres not issues with it, there definitely are, but when it does work as intended it is a great system.
Amen!
Same happens in Canada without the deductibles.
@@xaoccc9616 this
Did anyone else notice the silent pause he gave in expectation of a round of applause for his virtue signalling saying he wants free healthcare for all , and the disappointed look on his face when it didn't happen !
The truly daft thing is that he believes free health care...is actually free.
Performance artist... lacking any art
Our children have become stupid and repeat whatever they've heard at there socialist 100k a year college that we paid for. It's sad. We paid for students to be enlightened to the world, history, economics etc. Instead they get a Masters in Gender Theory? 300k in hole and complain they don't make enough.? Yea wonder why.
I’m not agreeing with him on any level but it sounds like you have some sick desperation in your life my guy. Get outside.
Also, it is a lie, that it's "FREE", someone is paying somewhere all the time, the government only takes credit for taking money from some poor b*stard's hard earned wage and handing it to someone else, the government's do nothing but self congratulate. And it's about time to stop kids being medicated for minor behavioural issues, just because some big pharma wants to sell more drugs and use the education system to be its pusher, instead of finding and dealing with the root cause of the child's behaviour and helping them naturally and in the long term.
This guy is one of those people that starts sentences with the phrase "history teaches us...". You can just tell.
He wouldn’t use history, it would prove him wrong 100% of the time.
The most generous interpretation of history is that people that believe in socialism/marxism/communism have mental blocks that make them incapable of implementing socialism/marxism/communism. That's why all attempts end in epic human tragedies: they are ideologically incapable of understanding they are flying the metaphorical plane into the ground, completely under control.
The alternative interpretation of history is that socialism/marxism/communism is a beautiful theory that is attractive to people that want a simple vision where they will be the morally virtuous saviors of humanity, and they can imagine no possessions, no borders, no crimes, etc, and there is no mass grave so big that the glory of this vision isn't more important.
If anyone "Taught" him, it was his indoctrinating left wing Marxist college Professor...
he can't defend his "view", so he defaults to being a bully.
classic.
wrong, he defended his view very well.
Wow. It’s amazing how people are afraid to admit when they are wrong. He resorted to attacking Michael in the end!
Classic liberal tactic.
Yep, more proof that liberalism is a severe mental disorder...
My wife is a doctor here in Rochester NY. She tells me that at least 1/4 of her patients drive themselves from Canada to see her or other doctors to get treated.
I am originally from the UK and have experience of both the US and UK health systems as a medical professional.
What they leave out in all this debate is the sheer number of people in the UK system that are suffering.
It is so bad that sick elderly patients were left to die via starvation because the panels decided they were not worth treating and were at end of life. Once it was decided to feed those elderly patients they recovered fully and went on to live for several more good years.
I immediately thought of Ben Shapiro at “my wife’s a doctor” 🤣
High five for Rochester, NY!
yes, if you want a thriving medical practice, open up shop in Buffalo, New York...
He says facts over feelings yet can’t bring anything beyond a head nod to facts. Emergency rooms will not turn away anyone.
Emergency rooms are legally bound to not turn people away. That's the reason a lot of hospitals are getting rid of them, and we're now seeing these Emergent/Urgent Care facilities pop up that charge exorbitant rates. They are able to charge those rates because they work hand-in-glove with the insurance companies that do the lobbying in D.C. to make sure that programs like the "Affordable Care Act" (Obamacare) get instituted, and we learn after-the-fact that they are anything but affordable.
@@krevor4095 Legally bound to give service, of course what’s your point. Urgent care facilities are not taking the place of Emergency rooms, that’s nonsense.
@@stevelopez372 The point being that they are not going to be omnipresent like they used to. "Back in the day", every hospital had them. Great cash cow, since far more people were responsible than nowadays. But that changed a few decades ago. So, now hospitals don't like having emergency rooms BECAUSE of the legal requirements. The alternatives that are popping up do not have those requirements. So, if someone shows up without insurance, they can (and likely will) turn them away. They're not required to provide service since they are not "emergency rooms".
Basically, "this isn't that". Simple to understand if you actually realize that emergency rooms are going away.
@@krevor4095 urgent cares are popping up to free up the ER. I have family that work in hospital systems and I have never heard of a hospital closing their ER. Urgent cares are able to handle more non life threatening patients which allows triage to better serve trauma and immediately life threatening conditions
As long as u where a mask 😷
His mom definitely still dresses him and they are paying his tuition
The Canadian Health Care System works beautifully when you are young and healthy!!!
The scary part is people like him, even when presented factual data,refuse to believe it.Sadly,there are many like him in this country.
Words of Wisdom that apply here:
The truth only hurts when you want to believe a lie - Jennifer McVey
The truth does not mind being questioned. A lie does not like being challenged - Unknown
When you talk, you are only repeating what you already know. But if you listen, you may learn something new - Dalai Lama
No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot - Unknown but attributed to Mark Twain
No matter how big a hammer you use, you can't pound common sense into stupid people - Unknown
@@tinaleanne8230
Excellent!👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
And most of them are professors teaching college and the students who go to them
@@tinaleanne8230 I love it!
@Tony Betz
Exactly.
My dad didn't have healthcare when he was young. He had to have his appendix removed so he went to the ER and they performed the procedure. The hospital then set him up on a payment plan that was based on what he could afford. It took him a long time to pay it off but hey, at least he got fixed.
When your father was young, prices were 10% of what they are now.
Probably in the long term paying everything off was cheaper than monthly insurance payments
That's fucking ridiculous.
@@Alex-ry6cd Why?
@@arturama8581 u literally can go into any ER not be denied because of lack of insurance and either apply two months out for medicaid or ask the hospital for the bills to be dropped because you can not pay or set up a payment plan. If you are below the poverty line you can apply and get services for medicaid
"A smart person listens to everyone and everything, an average person learns from their own experiences, and a dumb person already knows everything!"
-someone smarter than I...
Mexico and Guatemala have free healthcare for their Citizens, yet people from those Countries frequently come to the US, illegally, so they can get medical treatment. Kinda says a lot.
I went to Walmart last weekend for a fishing pole, I had 'one item' so I went thru the very first checkout desk that also apparently sells cigarettes... In front of me in line were 2 women. They were assumed to be sisters or maybe mother/daughter, each of them were at least twice the size of my refrigerator at home. I was shocked at what they were buying! They each had entire carts of junk food. Cheetos, doritos, coco puffs, oreos, hungry MAN dinners, ice cream, hi-c.... Not one decent thing in the entire cart. They then ask for a few packs of Newport cigarettes... Im thinking in my head, "holy smokes! these people are literally killing themselves". After their entire cart of sugar, processed food, and cigarettes are rung up, they pull out their EBT cards aka "food stamps" card. I'm thinking they must of had some "food" in there somewhere that I didn't see that the ebt card covers... Nope! it covered almost the whole cart of 'junk food' they were getting, everything but the newports. They did appear to have to pay for their "cancer sticks". Thank God for that! They waddle out of the way and I begin to check out. On my way out the door, I see the same women stopped at the eyeglass kiosk. It looked like one of them was making an appointment if I had to guess, while the other was standing by waiting. I didn't hear anything that was said, but as I was walking by I can see her handing the lady at the eyeglasses kiosk that magical little grey 'ebt card'. I can only imagine... I couldn't stop thinking about this the rest of the day. Actually, that was 6 days ago and look, it's still on my mind...
Can imagine how expensive it is to keep those people alive? They are making horrible decisions regarding their health and I'm forced to pay for their healthcare AND food? We are literally paying for what's killing them and then paying to keep them alive as long as possible afterwards. They are putting in ZERO effort. If we have to pay for their food, it should AT LEAST be actual food. People on 'government aid' should be required to make responsible decisions regarding the actual aid they receive. It shouldn't cover an entire cart of junk. Can you imagine expanding these programs? Why? Sponsor a free farmers market, a free gym membership, pay them to walk...I dunno. Anything but medicare for ALL!
Yes! A little self-discipline and accountability would go a long way. All EBT recipients should be restricted to only buying real food, and should be required to take 40 hours of classes on how to prepare it. Because they really have NO idea. Really.)
If I had to argue FOR socialism this would be exhibit A. Socialism is known to be the most successful weight loss plan in the history of the world. Food stamps are not socialism. They are part of the crony capitalism establishment to create a system of dependency on government while using the tax code and welfare system to transfer wealth from the average person to the filthy rich.
@@jwoellhof haha! That's right. I never thought of it that way. Socialism will surely end with a bunch of thin and starving Americans. No more obesity epidemic here. That's probably the only issue it will actually solve though.
I think that Food Stamps would once only pay for staples like milk, eggs, cheese, meats, rice, beans, and some other things. Maybe the WIC program is still like that, as it is for women with babies and young children. For some reason, the government decided to make Food Stamps into a much broader program, and now you can buy unlimited junk or just spend it on steak and lobster if you'd like. I had a friend who went onto food stamps for a couple of years, and she said it was actually more grocery money than she needed. She could go from being frugal and stretching the budget to buying convenience foods. But she found using the food stamps embarrassing too, because people would stare. Nowadays so many people are on Food Stamps or using cards that I suppose it's just becoming normal.
It's strange. I think you can even buy chewing gum. I'm not sure what the reasoning was behind changing the program. Maybe we should be talking to our congressmen more about this sort of thing. It doesn't make much sense for tax payers to pay for junk addiction for unhealthy folks and THEN have to pay for Medicaid or other insurance for people who have health issues like diabetes and obesity due to the way they eat. But I'm afraid the government is good at subsidizing and incentivising all sorts of unhealthy behavior in citizens who become dependent on it. And there are government entities who WANT to keep people dependent on it. I would be careful judging people in a checkout line....it's got to be a miserable sort of life in certain ways, and you don't know how those people ended up where they are. But it's a good issue to take up with the people who make the laws.
@Anthony Abbett you did
EMTALA is the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act and among other things, it prohibits emergency departments in hospitals from turning away any patient who is suffering from an emergency medical condition due to an inability to pay. What this entitled student is saying is just plain wrong.
You can go into any Emergency Room in the US and WILL NOT be denied care...
But there are diabetics denied insulin because of their insurance won't help.
“Hey, I’m for facts over feeling.”
This was said as a supposed “mic drop” moment in response to Michael Knowles asking for the names of people who have been denied access to an E.R.
The questioner gives no facts.
Fact, Knowles wins.
No he deflected the question because he had no credible answer....I swear his guy ,at one time tried to debate Ben Shapiro...
The best part is the student doesn’t realise he was just shot down.
The student is a smug little jerk who is probably still on his parents' healthcare insurance.
Too stupid to know different
Because the left has completed it's goal of not having to be governed by the real world.
He's so entrenched into the socialist identity that he can't face facts.
No, He just met a better salesman in regards to socialism.
It's not important he was sold on a Lie more than he was sold.
When has socialism ever been better? just answer that.
When has a government program ever outdone the private sector?
Do you want to eat at restaurants run like a DMV? Take a moment to imagine how awful that would be, I'll wait.
Facts will only hurt his feelings...
@@masonlee5453 screw that just go to the dmv and watch how fubar that is. never let them near my food.
Just like rich people saying "we have a very generous social safety net". And that it is an "absurd lie" that anybody ever died in the US because he can't afford healthcare. But thats just an opinion i guess....
@@williamlevesque6348 i do believe the statement was show me the people who were refused health care, which only happens in countries with socialized medicine. the comparison being that system in England that allows kids to die rather than allowing the parents to take them out of the country for treatment.
In the States we have to treat anyone that comes through the door of the ER no exceptions.
trust me i have government run health care, it's called the VA. IT SUCKS.
Couldn't have said it better Michael - I live in Ireland (a mixed economy) and the waiting lists for public health care are often very long.
I'm American but lived in The U.K. for 9 years. Breaking your arm in the U.K. is fantastic for healthcare; getting diagnosed with cancer is something altogether different. British hospitals are stuck in a pause akin to 1972 and good luck getting any treatment in time.
The nhs was never ment to be a world health service, it was ment to be there for the British people who built it , immigration has swollen the population and the nhs is collapsing under the strain
@@gilly9666 Completely understood. The NHS will always be a commendable accomplishment however when compared to other country's systems for complex and long-term illness, there is a reason why it is not a leading system globally - or even across Europe.
@@JoRonnamo in the UK you do have the option of private health care, however, if you end up with something serious, you have to go back into the NHS system. The problem we have is getting passed the receptionist, then the gp, in order to see a specialist. We have walk in clinics to get help when the gp's are closed. I spent two years trying to convince the gp that something was wrong. All my bloods were fine. I got scans and X rays, they were fine. Funny thing about cancer, it stays quiet, until it can't anymore. Then they have a two week turn around.
@@ArntyouAKAValerieNosey
If you live in the UK you can go completely private. The only time that a person would not use private is for serious trauma incident such as a car accident. Everything from a heart attack, stroke, brain surgery, organ transplants, cancer treatments and genetic diagnosis can be carried out in private hospitals and healthcare centres.
@@gilly9666
I worked in the NHS when it was not being overrun by immigration when it was focused on mostly british people and it was still a disaster then.
I seen the waiting list crisis of the 1990s and the woeful mismanagement of funds.
When hours count in saving a life, socialist healthcare is only months away.
😂
Hey you can get a hip replacement in just over a year in Canada. It's OK though, because the pain gets you free morphine for a year and you end up walking fine with your addiction.
@@dennisyoung7363 you say that as of the US isn't suffering from an opioids epidemic.
@@AbstractVader Stop inventing bullshit.
I'm a Canadian, about 10 years ago a friends father died from liver cancer because he put his faith in our health care when he could have went down and got treated in America, one of his American friends offered to set him up with a doctor but he turned it down
I don't know if it would have helped, but you have to kinda be impressed with that level of stubborn!
@@johnyoung1761 My friends dad was rich as well so the cost wasn't the issue
@@funkymonkey41784 why didn't he want to go?
@@simonarcher4445 To much faith in our medical system
@@funkymonkey41784 Blind faith I'm afraid. May he rest in peace. ❤
He seriously threw “facts over feelings” 🤣 🤣 🤣 I cringed so bad when he said that haha.
Man I really want to know what he was thinking with that dopey ass grin on his face.
These people just repeat these false slogans without any facts Or stats to back it up. Dangerous people think they are much more intelligent than they really are. One day that kid will look back on this and be embarrassed. Wisdom comes with age.
These people include Knowles, Shapiro, and many others. Just because you agree with them, that doesn't make them correct.
@@userhome3601 In most cases, they actually are.
The truth is they do not care about the actual issues they claim to care about. They really are Marxist activists.
I hear what you are saying, but I would clarify by saying that wisdom comes to those who apply themselves to seeking and acquiring it. And to your point, that takes time.
16?years ago I grew a fungus in my face called mucor mycosis. It has an 80% fatality rate and causes major facial deformity. I thank God every day that I was 22 and was no longer on my father’s Army benefits and did not go to the Army hospital if I had, I would be dead.
Edit for spelling.
Went through the same thing. its horrifying. May God bless you mam
@@jordanrip1515: That was an asshole thing to say.
Hope everything worked out
Wow. Glad for the turnabout.
@@jordanrip1515 thanks for your kind words.
*Translation*
I'm not happy with my own life, so I will take a pseudo-moralistic stance that requires no effort on my part whatsoever in order to feel morally superior to you.
I love your comment hahaha
@Randall V Cluster B and Dunning-Kruger effect on these idiots
and requires no effort on my part to take money from you for my benefit.
I know right....you said it all
And people with a brain call them "morons" and apparently there are plenty of them around these days!!
Michael Knowles is quick on his feet!!!
I loved watching this...thank you!
This kids education costs more than my dad made the 17 years I lived with him. I don't think you should be trying to change the world when you've been sheltered your whole life.
The only Conservative argument that should be used is that it is immoral to steal another man's labor.
Or money,......YOU R CORRECT!
what
@@hydrogamer471 The only Conservative argument that should be used is that is immoral to steal another man's labor......or money!......obviously labor =money
@@hydrogamer471 ...the argument is that many who are for socialized medicine claim that healthcare is a "right". The argument against it is that nobody has a "right" to the labor of another. When someone has a "right" to someone else's labor...that laborer is a slave.
@@hydrogamer471 in others words the State I live in is penalizing me with a fine (I can't afford to buy health insurance on my income but the State "guidelines" says otherwise) meaning I am being forced to pay for someone else health care while my family has no one.
Show me in the constitution where healthcare is a right. 15 years ago, health insurance was termed a benefit of employment.
It is your right to choose your provider and how you want to be treated, instead of the government telling you when and how you are to be treated. That is what the constitution and this country gives you...the right to choose for yourself.
@@ryanmoon05 But only if you have a shitload of money!
@@arturama8581 define "shit load of money" I make 50k a year and I can afford healthcare just fine...I guess I make a shitload of money.
"I'm for facts over feelings."
Well you've been invited to name one person who has died in the streets and was denied care. So we're waiting for those promised 'facts'.
that guy's argument was basically Adam Savage saying "I reject your reality, and substitute my own!"
"I am for facts over feelings", says the guy who argues based on his feeling, while ignoring the facts hahahah this statement was so embarrassing. He should have just stopped talking.
They can’t, they love hearing themselves talk.
He had that in the backburner ready to say after the inevitable shutdown of his argument in order to try and get some kind of "last hoora". It was trash, and didn't work.
If he's going to prefer facts over feelings why doesn't he look at the facts.
I thought you were talking about Mike before the student said it
Facts like Americans pay more per capita for health care than Canadians? US is 40th in life expectancy? More Americans go outside of the US for treatment than people come to the US? Prescription drugs are hugely more expensive in the US than in Canada?
@@surly74 Yea, if only the US had another US to keep it from being sacked by a super power like Canada does. Russia's boy scouts could take over Canada if the US didn't have such a massive defense budget. Maybe we SHOULD stop being the world police and instead take care of our own for a change. How's your Russian? rofl
@@stanleyclark923 What does that have to do with healthcare?
I remember catching a really bad infection on my foot. I couldn’t walk on my own. Doctor said if I waited a few more days It would have been very ugly, even fatal. The minute I was brought into the hospital and the lady asked if I had health insurance, she immediately said if you don’t have any it’s ok, there are options on taking care of that, what’s important is that we get you fixed up. Fortunately I did have health insurance and only came out of pocket $100 of a $18,000 medical bill.
What I don't understand is price they charge.
Once I was in the hospital for five days for a bad back injury. On the last day, I was given 2 acetaminophen tablets before discharge from the hospital. When I got the final itemized bill of nearly $8000, I saw that they had charged me $15.50 for the 2 pills. I could have told them I had a bottle of Tylenol in my purse if I'd known what they charge for two Tylenols.
@@misoudeweese7209 The prices are what they are because the insurance companies want to negotiate. So medical facilities jack up the prices, the insurance companies negotiate what they will pay, and the medical facilities get what they need. What you see on the bill is not what the insurance companies pay.
If you were to pay the whole bill out of pocket, it would be a lot less.
The guy looks like he's just been listening to Beach boys on his 8 track in his brand new 1969 GTO that his mum and dad bought him , and has parked it in college campus.
You know, I was thinking that too. Definitely a circa 1968-1972 haircut he's got.
@@mattbross6517 He's just got a 60's face as well if that makes sense.
I thought he looked a little like Jaws from the old James Bond movies.
Like a living Ken doll.
He is correct, we have a friend who was denied cancer care in Canada as it was deemed to late/expensive to save him, he came to Hong Kong and was given the care he needed and thankfully is alive today, 4 years later
Great story! Glad to hear he's still around.
@@jeanneplymette411 Thanks Jeanne, so are we, take care
@@ryano136
I am come across end of life care and it can be brutal in many of those so called free healthcare countries.
The operate what is deemed an optimizing system where they decide who to treat and who not.
When you're that young and therefore inexperienced in life, but closed off to any other ideas but yours.
Except it’s not his. It’s poison from the mouth of a leftist professor.
@Randall V The most intelligent man I ever met didn't graduate high school. He was my first employer. If only people would recognize true intelligence, not a piece of paper.
Except the ideas he is professing are not even his. That young student is merely parroting his Cultural Marxist "perfessers" ideas. Why do we fund universities again?
@Randall V exactly. I know what I know and when I don't I listen.
At 72 years old I'm obviously to old to know everything, that's reserved fo the young.
God bless America
I'm just going to repeat this till its true.
Lol “I’m for facts over feelings” 😂 says his feelings! 😂😂
Pretty cringe that he thought that would win him the crowd and score points in the convo 😬
Exactly...I think he got his "facts" hurt in this exchange, ha ha.
Crack me up. Knowles tells him it's a good slogan, and the kid returns the compliment, saying he got it from Ben Shapiro. Too funny. What a happy bunch.
The problem is, this guy is not in possession of the facts....or his faculties either.
Stating statistics is feelings? Did you go to school?
Yeah I’ve never seen anyone denied entrance into the emergency room as well. Good going Michael knowls.
Exactly, in fact it is illegal for them to do so since the Federal Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act became law in 1986. While it may not apply to private doctor's offices, any facility with emergency care (including even urgent care) is legally obligated to provide emergency services to those in need of it, regardless of their financial or health insurance status.
Yeah the ER pretty much just checks the vitals. I mean that’s awesome, but it’s not gonna cover much beyond life or death, and patch people up scenarios
@@joebuck7495 while this is true they where talking about deaths specifically and that’s what the ER is for
yup , you might get in debt in usa but you dont die waiting on a line. venezuelan here
That is one of the exemptions. Funny how nothing is ever black and white. You are allowed to receive basic emergency care though in many cases, responders are told to provide only that care which is fundamentally necessary.
Knowles: *asks for a fact*
Socialist: "im for facts over feelings" *smirks*
Me: is he literally mentally deficient
As a Canadian, I've ben paying for this 'free' healthcare for decades in higher taxes.
That dude's ego is so high, that humility thrust itself on him so hard, he probably got pregnant.
i prefer lessons learned from the timeless sage, "Wylie Coyote"
He gets back to his friends and goes “ Did you guys see how bad I made Michael Knowles look Comrades?
And then he and his Antifa and BLM buddies burned down a Dollar Tree.
"I hit him with the hard facts about 10s of thousands of people die in the streets every year. He looked like a poppy seeking approval.
I stood there, stared him right in the eye, and said 'I'm for fact over feelings' and then dropped the mic."
"yeah now let's worship Dr Fauci while we touch each others stinky bumholes"
They probably then give each other reach arounds 😂
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I have a friend who grew up in Canada. She told me you don’t want socialistic medicine. She told me that she knew someone who neede a serious heart surgery. You get put on a waiting list. He waited a whole year before he finally got his surgery. Fortunately God was with him, he didn’t die
God saved him? Why didn't God save the millions killed in the Holocaust?
Only God can answer that so maybe you should ask him.
@@MrURBETTA So you didn't ask God that question? I think we have found the epicenter of the problem.
I'm not the one questioning God, you are. Now you truly know the epicenter of the problem.
Canadians do live measurably longer lives though. Canada's average lifespan is 83 years. The US is at 79, right between Panama and Cuba. Interesting to think about. I'm sure both systems have their flaws.
This guy should
move to Canada...
he'll find out soon!
@Randall V Very well said! My standard question for the haters... If America is such a wretched place, then why are gazillions of people so eager to live here?
Taking SJW's to school with a smile on your face.
Much respect🙏Following you to RUMBLE!!!
why are young people so angry when someone doesn't agree with them?
I'm Canadian.
I work in the medical field.
Please keep your system!
Come to America... we need more amazing beards
@@farmersgrip the beard speaks for itself and has a mind of its own including pronouns
Why do pipo consistently think that what they believe is a right requires someone else’s labor? This always confuses me.
Us Canadians don't like our health care system 🇺🇸💜🇨🇦
Maybe you don't but polls show 86% of Canadians do not want private healthcare
*we
@@andrewl8514 nazi SOCIALISM 😂🧼🧠
I like our system (Canada) compared to the US system.
@@surly74 that's good to hear maybe we should get some kind of system that actually tracks our thoughts of our systems where I live all though out the nwt healthcare is a joke housing sucks schooling is lacking
I can appreciate this.
Another Canadian here, we pay 10 times more for everything, that's what happens when the government runs the monopoly.
Same here. I dread the day I need to buy a home for myself because of the housing crisis
Name me ONE TIME when government involvement caused costs to go down. Just ONE.
In Germany, our government makes sure that prices for drugs and surgery are appropriate. Works out quite nice actually.
@@kristianhinnenthal9575 Same here in Australia, cost of healthcare overall is cheaper and is quite good. They managed covid to the point where it's non existant and we carry on with our normal lives.
Agree socialism isn't good at much but when people have a natural passion for their work like helping people or investing money social systems work.
Hate to see sewerage plumbing done in a socialist society, it'd be terrible.
These video's that i get randomly recommended make me appreciatie even more where i am born.
Want better health care? Get rid of all government intervention in health care and watch prices come down.
Nobody has ever been denied into an ER. He's right. I've seen people shot run into the ER and get taken in without a second wasted.
In Canada they'd be left bleeding in the lobby for a few days.
Health insurance is NOT health care.
Thank you for saying that. I have been saying that everytime they talk about healthcare.
Do people think that the waiting line is going to get shorter if every person is allowed to line up in the same place?
and all the nurses and doctors getting paid an hourly rate, dictated by the government, regardless of how many they see. Not much incentive to be good or quick. Socialist 'anything' results in getting the lowest quality, cheapest product that is just barely acceptable to the general population.
I used to say I liked the idea of getting healthcare basically paid by taxes - till I understood things that happen with that. When you pay on your own or have at least that as a choice - it is far superior. Then you are in more control of your life.
Then you're already smarter than the socialist believer; you sought to find more information, not close your mind to other views like the idiot in the video who shook his head when the facts conflicted with his feelings.
Even the guy holding the microphone didn't respect his argument... he kept holding it two feet from his face to make him hunch over. LOL.
Social distancing, genius.
This video is old genius! It was before covid as you can see everyone sitting beside each other.
The more stupid shit you say the further away it gets 😂
@@valeenoi2284 the "genius" of people attempting to argue in random RUclips comment section 🤦🏻♂️
Posting without giving your real identity shows a lack of conviction in your argument.
What was that guy running for....Congress?
@James Godin which guy?
Facts! Love Michael Knowles!
If 10,000 people die a year from lack of health insurance, imagine how many more would die because they have to wait a year to see a specialist.
This guy should go spend a couple years living in canada and see how long it takes to receive care for even some minor stuff
Yes. And only then would he know the FACTS.
He'd say it was anecdotal.
How long does it take? I don't wait that long. There are also other options to see doctors. There are clinics that you don't pay out of pocket for where you can walk in and see a doctor. What are you seeing a doctor for, for minor stuff anyway?
@@surly74 it took my mom over 6 months to have surgery for cancer before they started the radiation. 6 months....in Toronto. So please take your nonsense elsewhere. She couldn’t just pay out of pocket for better service. That doesn’t exist here
@@Lynchpin2010 Is your mother alive? Did she survive cancer? Is your complaint she waited or that this had a detrimental effect on her care? Perhaps the cancer was found soon enough so there was a window? She had treatment in Canada, did she sell her house or cash in her life savings for treatment like in the US? What was the final bill? How much out of pocket did she have to end up paying?
Australian here, we have both a public and private system. It's like what everyone says - if you go public there are queues and wait times, and the costs keep rising for the govt each year beyond inflation. To get the best care, you need to have private health insurance. Private is not perfect either - price rises, declining benefits and increased gap payments each year as well. The truth is there is no perfect solution for a health system, but private is undoubtedly better.
Can confirm. Both of my parents have gone to the USA from Canada to have surgeries that were 12+ month waiting lists in Canada.
How much does it cost for pregnancy in Canada?
And how much does it cost for pregnancy in the United States?
@@mrrglass3407 you are pulling at one thing, seriously? Guess what? They pay high taxes. My friend pays $17.99 for a pound of groundbeef in Canada. Chicken around $6.00 a pound. She cannot wait to get back to the USA to have better taxes AND better healthcare!
@@tigs8258
That's what a lot of Americans do ...come to Canada get some free healthcare and then go back because they say it's better in America(including a lot of your transsexuals getting free operations in Canada)
Goodbye, so long, farewell...
@@mrrglass3407 😆😅🤣😂 My husband works at a hospital and sees a lot of Canadians, even Europeans, because of the Healthcare and I have yet to meet one American who goes to another country for healthcare. Healthcare as in needed. Not elective like cosmetic procedures. The fact that you bypassed my higher taxes statement and never even addressed it speaks volumes. Have a great day! Stay safe and humble!
@@tigs8258
Another one that thinks they're brilliant.
33 million Canadians
350 million Americans
Think about it.
And just because your husband works in the hospital field does not mean "you" qualify in any way shape or form.
Have a wonderful day.
Don't forget to wear your helmet.
Medicare for all? Instruct young people it only covers 80%