I really really liked your video. I've been flying a direct drive brushless helicopter in 6G which is like safe and having a blast. But 3-D pilots have been looking down on me they don't understand if I'm having fun that should be enough… One of the reasons why I love your video so much is because your more real than all the other videos about helicopters. most people can relate to this… I don't even want to fly 3-D. I don't have the money for the broken parts either… All I can say thank you for being out here. And just enjoy and fly the way you want.
I was there bro right where you are now , and the 3d guys look down on you like that because it how they push you to go big. I can do some 3d now but it has taken years of practice and hours on the sim. Just keep them in air and sim time and you will be looking down on noobies soon enough to 😁.
@@merlavery5057 thanks for your comment but I will never look down on new pilots. I don't have a narcissistic bone in my body… Each person can have fun anyway they wish. The ones that show this I'm better than you they are the losers. I would hate to have friends like that. Competitive their souls are a little fried and it's going to their head.
Great Video CLEARLY demonstrating how expensive this RC Heli Hobby is. New piece of thin plastic canopy: $20+, New plastic swash plate assembly $20+, New battery due to damage of a single cell in the pack.....another $20+......I've seen guys go broke and/or clearly mismanage their financial priorities due to this hobby alone, not that I'm implying you're guilty of such. - Best advice I can give you - Purchase a single heli (even a 700 Class) with safe mode/ bail-out, give yourself plenty of altitude for mistakes and learn on ONE helicopter instead of confusing yourself with a variety of flight characteristics.
Great advice. I have the same issue as the op. You find the tail settings are so different between helicopters. I'd say for that reason alone go with one.
you rock back and forth a lot in this video, don't know why but it bugs me a little, it only bugs me because I caught onto it and cant stop noticing it. but still great video, very helpful info, I just got given both the second heli and the last heli in your video and I have no idea what I am doing
I highly recommend the fusion 480 super combo kit and the fusion 180 smart! The fusion one 180 is a absolute ripper! It's a fuking beast on 4s! U can 5000 rpm on the head and it's mental! 100% throttle 0 throttle offset.
Have a 150s and Fusion 180. Got advance enough to the point the 150s tail could not hold in fast tail forward flight. Switched to the Fusion 180 and was blown away with the tail performance. It held excellent with everything I through at it, albeit there was tuning necessary on the PID's.
Keep flying bro you are doing great. The aggressive flights will come gradually as your skill level and confidence level rises. I was were you are years ago but now I can fly the wings off your birds . It will happen. Stay on the sim .
@@jakesrcflying8601 We've all been there, 3 factors to success.Time,cost and perseverance....but its an addiction! Might be worth using a very dialed down setting as per John Salt (on rc helicopter fun) lots of expo, reduced dual rates and reduced pitch curves to make it less twitchy. The 150 is a great little bird when dialed in but it's a handful straight out of the box on recommended settings. Took me 6 months to get mine flying how I wanted it.
@@jakesrcflying8601 I think you can fly fine, you are dealing with confidence. I highly recommend taking it slower and trying to do simple hovering in idle up without the safety net of SAFE. Safe is great for beginners but also teaches you that you can be rough on the sticks to get it moving around vs idle up were you need to be much more gentle and deliberate with inputs. Its totally different than being in safe and holding the stick in a direction. The right way is to learn to tilt the rotor head and control the momentum you get when the heli starts moving in that direction.
Thumbs up. More people should care about small helicopters for their natural high endurance of flight time. I modified my 230s to become a FPV helicopter at 249 grams and HD onboard video recording that flips/dives/snaps with 35 minutes of flight time per charge. No quads under 250 grams can ever beat that, not even professionally designed DJI. They either have to change a battery and going over 250 grams, or they have to turn off HD video and turn off FPV and navigation and make the drone fly in a circle at constant speed to get that advertised 35 minutes per charge, and even then, they can't flip/dive/snap.
Have you ever tried direct drive helis like the OMP M1 or M2? I have started with a Blade 230S V2 and it was fun, but these little birds with direct drive motors for the main and tailotors are so much more stable and have a lot more power. Worth to try them for sure.
The new eachine 120 direct drive looks pretty good too, doesn't have brushless tail motor like the omp but haven't seen the tail wash out in any videos yet
Just a heads up. Using safe all the time is a bad habit. When you move onto a 600 up and don’t have it and get in trouble you may not know how to correct it if you don’t practice it. I got into that habit when I bought a 300 cfx and when I got back flying my old raptor 50 I slammed the ground reaching for the safe switch lol.
If you want to practice for 3d indoor outdoors then measure your target room then try to fly in the same size box outdoors, with wind itll be harder outside for sure....so if you can do outside you can do it with confidence inside
Don’t keep buying and breaking new canopies. Instead, tape then back together with scotch tape until you stop crashing. That’s what I do, and it works fine.
For the tiny canopies I use the clear plasti-dip in the spray and tape off the outer side and spay a couple coats on the inside it will hold together even after the canopy gets cracked
Thank you, you have saved me a shed load of money, I was thinking of getting the 150 or 180 but I don't want a 3D monster, just something to cruise around with. I think I'll stick with my MCPX BL and MCPS helicopters.
if you're wanting a dirt cheap Ali Express heli, the v911s is a good buy, I have been flying mine around for a while now. It isn't collective pitch but a good intro to flying.
@@Anthraxnz64 Okay sorry my fault.. I typed it into duckduckgo then clicked on the link and it said no longer available but it probably meant from that ali express seller. I didnt type it into ali express search engine itself, which is what I should of done. Sorry.
For me since i fly elrs, i started with a SAB mini Comet and i absolutely love the thing, i hated horizon mode (or autolevel) imo it builds a bad habit of forcing you to push the stick forward all the time to do anything
Had plenty of blade helis back in my early days of flying. The mcpx v2 was the heli that taught me. Flew it EVERY day learning the basics. Now I fly the big boy helis doing big air stunts and 3d.
At least you showed you're inexperienced, lol. 😂 I'm a fan boy of HH. And blade. They are cheap compared to a real one. However, the buyer still needs to set up. If you expect it to fly awesome out of the box, it's hard to come by. (There have been a few in my life).. Once tuned, they are great, helis. But no quality control, that's on you. Lol. The 180 is my next buy. And the 150, lol. Learn to fly that 150. Or 180. The 330 is flying you, and that's not good. Too big. I've had most, 10 years ago. Getting back in, I bought the 230 and 330. Love em both. I need to figure out the tilt when I hit panic on the 330. But it's the same as my old 450x. Other than new lol. Have fun and be safe
DUDE!!! 24:25..."forward programming..." WHAT!? lol 28:11 The foam blocks on the body posts. When I got mine, thought it might be slick to leave them on, however, without trimming, they interfere with the servo arm. Be careful! I just got my 330S today. Haven't maidened it yet. too windy for me.
@@mrcadzilla collective pitch means the heli uses the pitch of the blades to go up and down with a fixed blade RPM. (Allowing for inverted flight) Fixed pitch means the heli uses throttle to go up and down with varying RPM.
The 230s is a great heli I will have a video soon for it ! I haven’t had a chance to Maiden mine yet but have heard great things but it is a little underpowered.
@@jakesrcflying8601 i bought that one last year and have only flown it once. What little experience I have is with rc planes, but I plan on flying it more. Seems like it has enough power for me but then I am extremely inexperienced with rc helicopters.
Dude you need to get a simulator till you get better. Crashing is part of the hobby but you shouldn’t be putting after market parts on till you really have your orientation down. I made that mistake years ago.
First train to fly an heli at a sim before starting 3D and talk about how the model fly! You fly only around (most of the time forward and backward) whitout any control! Don`t give tipps to beginners before you self can fly ! Best greetings Rainer from Germany!
Your saying the 150 hard to fly or fusion ? Anyone for that matter you can tame them all down with the radio been flying 15 years you will not learn how to truly fly on safe its cool for a save in a pinch thats it
The best Heli for a beginner will always be a 500. It's the sweet spot. It's stable which anything below isn't (Dot fly with DPS and all other 'helping' adds - Learn to fly is much better,) The pricing is right, buy a used one, and team up with a guy that actually can fly. Spares are affordable, it rockets up in $$$ from a 550. The smaller are way too twitcy and most beginners will get very frustrated with the small heli's The 500 flyes like a much bigger heli, and that makes it much more easy to learn how to fly it. And DON'T start beliving 3D is what you want to learn as a beginner.
i have a fleet of seven different models of blade helicopters they are crap half of the helicopers were down waiting for parts especialy tail motor burning out finally got smart stop buying parts went to rc cars better hooby cheaper
I really really liked your video. I've been flying a direct drive brushless helicopter in 6G which is like safe and having a blast. But 3-D pilots have been looking down on me they don't understand if I'm having fun that should be enough… One of the reasons why I love your video so much is because your more real than all the other videos about helicopters. most people can relate to this… I don't even want to fly 3-D. I don't have the money for the broken parts either… All I can say thank you for being out here. And just enjoy and fly the way you want.
Fuck ‘em man. Fly for yourself, no one else!
I was there bro right where you are now , and the 3d guys look down on you like that because it how they push you to go big. I can do some 3d now but it has taken years of practice and hours on the sim. Just keep them in air and sim time and you will be looking down on noobies soon enough to 😁.
@@merlavery5057 thanks for your comment but I will never look down on new pilots. I don't have a narcissistic bone in my body… Each person can have fun anyway they wish. The ones that show this I'm better than you they are the losers. I would hate to have friends like that. Competitive their souls are a little fried and it's going to their head.
I got a blade 120s 180 fusion 2 230 v2, smart 330s and a 360 fusion.
Favorite to fly is 330s.
Great Video CLEARLY demonstrating how expensive this RC Heli Hobby is. New piece of thin plastic canopy: $20+, New plastic swash plate assembly $20+, New battery due to damage of a single cell in the pack.....another $20+......I've seen guys go broke and/or clearly mismanage their financial priorities due to this hobby alone, not that I'm implying you're guilty of such. - Best advice I can give you - Purchase a single heli (even a 700 Class) with safe mode/ bail-out, give yourself plenty of altitude for mistakes and learn on ONE helicopter instead of confusing yourself with a variety of flight characteristics.
Great advice. I have the same issue as the op. You find the tail settings are so different between helicopters. I'd say for that reason alone go with one.
you rock back and forth a lot in this video, don't know why but it bugs me a little, it only bugs me because I caught onto it and cant stop noticing it. but still great video, very helpful info, I just got given both the second heli and the last heli in your video and I have no idea what I am doing
I highly recommend the fusion 480 super combo kit and the fusion 180 smart!
The fusion one 180 is a absolute ripper! It's a fuking beast on 4s! U can 5000 rpm on the head and it's mental! 100% throttle 0 throttle offset.
Have a 150s and Fusion 180. Got advance enough to the point the 150s tail could not hold in fast tail forward flight. Switched to the Fusion 180 and was blown away with the tail performance. It held excellent with everything I through at it, albeit there was tuning necessary on the PID's.
Keep flying bro you are doing great. The aggressive flights will come gradually as your skill level and confidence level rises. I was were you are years ago but now I can fly the wings off your birds . It will happen. Stay on the sim .
230 s v2 are very fun . Like the 330s is more . Last time I checked it's belt !
Great video man i appreciate it, got a blade nano and absolutely love it, incredible performance for the money
A bigger heli is way more stable too. My first heli was a TREX 550E. Loved it. Fast, stable, easy to see. I found it easier to fly than an MCPX
I had a Raptor 550E back in the day was the early days of bigger models going Electric
This is hilarious 😂 Especially the way that 150 takes a dirt nap!
Dude I cannot fly small helis it’s ridiculous
@@jakesrcflying8601 We've all been there, 3 factors to success.Time,cost and perseverance....but its an addiction!
Might be worth using a very dialed down setting as per John Salt (on rc helicopter fun) lots of expo, reduced dual rates and reduced pitch curves to make it less twitchy.
The 150 is a great little bird when dialed in but it's a handful straight out of the box on recommended settings. Took me 6 months to get mine flying how I wanted it.
@@jakesrcflying8601 I think you can fly fine, you are dealing with confidence. I highly recommend taking it slower and trying to do simple hovering in idle up without the safety net of SAFE. Safe is great for beginners but also teaches you that you can be rough on the sticks to get it moving around vs idle up were you need to be much more gentle and deliberate with inputs. Its totally different than being in safe and holding the stick in a direction. The right way is to learn to tilt the rotor head and control the momentum you get when the heli starts moving in that direction.
@@pgrcadventures1414 yes I have been trying this more and getting better.
Thumbs up. More people should care about small helicopters for their natural high endurance of flight time. I modified my 230s to become a FPV helicopter at 249 grams and HD onboard video recording that flips/dives/snaps with 35 minutes of flight time per charge. No quads under 250 grams can ever beat that, not even professionally designed DJI. They either have to change a battery and going over 250 grams, or they have to turn off HD video and turn off FPV and navigation and make the drone fly in a circle at constant speed to get that advertised 35 minutes per charge, and even then, they can't flip/dive/snap.
Have you ever tried direct drive helis like the OMP M1 or M2? I have started with a Blade 230S V2 and it was fun, but these little birds with direct drive motors for the main and tailotors are so much more stable and have a lot more power. Worth to try them for sure.
The new eachine 120 direct drive looks pretty good too, doesn't have brushless tail motor like the omp but haven't seen the tail wash out in any videos yet
@@gbresaleking I do not know and this Eachine, but might be as well a good one. :)
I like the teeny tiny Nano one!
If you want an amazing upgrade for any 3d heli lubricate your linkages for smooth presise controls
Just a heads up. Using safe all the time is a bad habit. When you move onto a 600 up and don’t have it and get in trouble you may not know how to correct it if you don’t practice it. I got into that habit when I bought a 300 cfx and when I got back flying my old raptor 50 I slammed the ground reaching for the safe switch lol.
Also the bigger the heli the more stable it gets. Plus like you said easier to see
Good video. I went from a Blade S70 to a 330s, I love the 330s.
Also you need I love the brushless mcpx it’s so powerful and flys so good
If you want to practice for 3d indoor outdoors then measure your target room then try to fly in the same size box outdoors, with wind itll be harder outside for sure....so if you can do outside you can do it with confidence inside
Don’t keep buying and breaking new canopies. Instead, tape then back together with scotch tape until you stop crashing. That’s what I do, and it works fine.
Totally, I put extra stickers over cracks.
in the RC truck world, people use dry wall tape (the fiber glass mesh stuff, its a square mesh) and shoe goo so that might work with heli's too
For the tiny canopies I use the clear plasti-dip in the spray and tape off the outer side and spay a couple coats on the inside it will hold together even after the canopy gets cracked
@@Anthraxnz64 too heavy
Not a blade's one, that's for sure! 😀 (from my experience)
Nothing but headaches
I do believe the 330s is belted
Thank you, you have saved me a shed load of money, I was thinking of getting the 150 or 180 but I don't want a 3D monster, just something to cruise around with. I think I'll stick with my MCPX BL and MCPS helicopters.
if you're wanting a dirt cheap Ali Express heli, the v911s is a good buy, I have been flying mine around for a while now. It isn't collective pitch but a good intro to flying.
No longer available.
@@edstar83 just checked, they're still on aliexpress
@@Anthraxnz64 Okay sorry my fault.. I typed it into duckduckgo then clicked on the link and it said no longer available but it probably meant from that ali express seller. I didnt type it into ali express search engine itself, which is what I should of done. Sorry.
I loved my 911s until my buddy had to one up me and buy a 120s so I had to go out and buy a 450 lol
The Beast Hely rc Align and sab Goblin
For me since i fly elrs, i started with a SAB mini Comet and i absolutely love the thing, i hated horizon mode (or autolevel) imo it builds a bad habit of forcing you to push the stick forward all the time to do anything
Just got the 150s Livley little heli lol good power..
Had plenty of blade helis back in my early days of flying. The mcpx v2 was the heli that taught me. Flew it EVERY day learning the basics. Now I fly the big boy helis doing big air stunts and 3d.
At least you showed you're inexperienced, lol. 😂
I'm a fan boy of HH. And blade. They are cheap compared to a real one. However, the buyer still needs to set up. If you expect it to fly awesome out of the box, it's hard to come by. (There have been a few in my life).. Once tuned, they are great, helis. But no quality control, that's on you. Lol.
The 180 is my next buy. And the 150, lol.
Learn to fly that 150. Or 180. The 330 is flying you, and that's not good. Too big.
I've had most, 10 years ago. Getting back in, I bought the 230 and 330. Love em both. I need to figure out the tilt when I hit panic on the 330. But it's the same as my old 450x. Other than new lol. Have fun and be safe
Dude get the brushless conversation kit for your nano it’s not a huge upgrade but does make it a bit more powerful which is what it needs.
He seems good to me. You must be a pro
Any thoughts on the blade 230s? I’ve been looking at it as a possible upgrade from my Eachine e160
Surely you can instantly tell if a heli is shaft drive?
Blade 330s is belt drive
Yes I learned this after especially after looking and seeing where the belt tension check is.
My 330s will be here tomorrow 😃
DUDE!!! 24:25..."forward programming..." WHAT!? lol
28:11 The foam blocks on the body posts. When I got mine, thought it might be slick to leave them on, however, without trimming, they interfere with the servo arm. Be careful!
I just got my 330S today. Haven't maidened it yet. too windy for me.
Very nice fligh my friend, but if iam choose a 330s.
Hi I have a blade nano s3 I got awhile back and was wondering how you switch flight modes and go upside down. I have a spectrum dx6i is it my radio?
What are your opinions of the Blade MCPX BL2.
love the video
Hey Jake, when you fly inverted, do the controls also flip? Like you press down on left joystick to ascend?
@Rcaddictionmania I already figured it out using the simulator. Still dont know what collective pitch means. All good.
@@mrcadzilla collective pitch means the heli uses the pitch of the blades to go up and down with a fixed blade RPM. (Allowing for inverted flight) Fixed pitch means the heli uses throttle to go up and down with varying RPM.
What about the 230s? What do you think of that one?
The 230s is a great heli I will have a video soon for it ! I haven’t had a chance to
Maiden mine yet but have heard great things but it is a little underpowered.
@@jakesrcflying8601 i bought that one last year and have only flown it once. What little experience I have is with rc planes, but I plan on flying it more. Seems like it has enough power for me but then I am extremely inexperienced with rc helicopters.
@@allenallen5005 as long as your not doing a lot of 3d it will be enough.
Dude you need to get a simulator till you get better. Crashing is part of the hobby but you shouldn’t be putting after market parts on till you really have your orientation down. I made that mistake years ago.
I’m sure they are good but for me they don’t look like really helicopters , I like the one based on real ones flying.
If you have to put glue on the tape
For me Micro Scale FM BO 105.
The 150 is defintly the best
I’ve been wanting to get fpv on a heli since I was a kid and to this day nobody has come with it
First train to fly an heli at a sim before starting 3D and talk about how the model fly! You fly only around (most of the time forward and backward) whitout any control! Don`t give tipps to beginners before you self can fly ! Best greetings Rainer from Germany!
I highly recommend the 120s2 for beginners! Any fixed pitch heli is good for beginners!
I would say you need to go back to basics you are all over the place which is why you keep crashing.
Your saying the 150 hard to fly or fusion ? Anyone for that matter you can tame them all down with the radio been flying 15 years you will not learn how to truly fly on safe its cool for a save in a pinch thats it
Safe definitely makes it a lot easier on your wallet that's for sure 😁 Saved my butt many times. 😆
Cool helicopters Keep it up 👍🏻✌🏻
The best Heli for a beginner will always be a 500.
It's the sweet spot.
It's stable which anything below isn't (Dot fly with DPS and all other 'helping' adds - Learn to fly is much better,)
The pricing is right, buy a used one, and team up with a guy that actually can fly.
Spares are affordable, it rockets up in $$$ from a 550.
The smaller are way too twitcy and most beginners will get very frustrated with the small heli's
The 500 flyes like a much bigger heli, and that makes it much more easy to learn how to fly it.
And DON'T start beliving 3D is what you want to learn as a beginner.
500 what?
@@av8en 500 size.
looking for nano precise fly for indoor
love my msr and fear the mcpx; prefer my simulator - no broken parts easy reset. its a costly hobby
Any heli that isn’t a blade heli😂
Absolutely!
i have a fleet of seven different models of blade helicopters they are crap half of the helicopers were down waiting for parts especialy tail motor burning out finally got smart stop buying parts went to rc cars better hooby cheaper
Laughing at you making a video about what is the best RC helicopter before learning to fly one.
ohh snap
Hahahahaha
I got a blade 130s and a blade 230s, they both suck. I stay away from Blade from now on...
Blade 330s is a disaster so many complaints don't waste your money. No quality control at the factory.
What's better for a beginner kid. The Nano or the 120. They're both about the same cost my kids been begging me for a helicopter.
120
120s for sure
Blade salesman??? There are other helis to consider.