@@benh580 yeah ben I've seen a ton on these products and when TT quoted Jon Perry talking about the super high pH I thought we were going to get a science bomb dropped but nope. Just bullshit bullshit bullshit. In my mind high pH has a high potential for reaction... yet I'm not a soil scientist so maybe I'm full of bullshit too. But then again I'm not claiming to be one so there's that.
@@justinmurray4397 high pH just means there's more available hydroxide OH- than free hydrogen H+ The information that turf truth shares is definitely not BS but instead it is entirely factual and objective. Maybe the downside of this is that it can be a bit more complicated or for some difficult to understand
@@benh580 This story has been told a thousand times here it feels like. Matt tried it and he learned better. If you're wondering about his perspective on liquidation you'd be better suited to look at his more recent content.
@@tiffanywhite2121 no Matt Martin took the video promoting Air-8 down and replaced it with his famous tag lined scam video. He also coined the term for John’s RGS product “really good Shit” them wavered on that also. Matt is one jealous dude!!!
Sales videos are definitely one-sided, they don't present the whole picture very well but neither do debunking videos. Usually the full truth is somewhere in the middle where it gets more boring. I've already said a lot of what was said in this video on my channel, very little new information presented here although your presentation is far more polished than mind. I first started saying this stuff in my video where I discuss liquid aerate vs core but I also present some of the benefits of using the liquid products while also informing viewers that they are optional products and unnecessary and a bit overhyped via sales language. Personally I mechanically core aerate and suggest my viewers do the same but I also apply ocassional apps of liquids for the carbon component and wetting effect in regards to water penetration. I love how you go down to the scientific level in your analysis and you are obviously a good marketer too, you are slinging free information packaged in a shocking delivery and now targeting the YT algorithm. I'm impressed but I dislike the demonizing of people. At some point you may debunk me and point out some things I've said wrong or worded poorly and that's fine but viewers of your channel should always keep in mind the one-sidedness of your delivery and how the truth you present is not the full truth due to the omission of information you purposefully ignore. Keep up your mission for science based information and halting misinformation, im all for that, but I hope that one day you'll see the value in not presenting your message in disguise while also presenting a multi sided message, one that takes larger complexities into consideration. For instance liquid aerate products do benefit the soil in some other ways which you could go into for the viewers sake. If we can increase critters in the lawn then those critters can help with physical aeration in a natural way. The carbon component in liquid aeration products can help support biological life in the soil - is it the best way to do it? That's an interesting question to look into but it's at least a tool in shed. Can you do it by buying cheaper products? Yeah probably but we live in a consumer society and people buy stuff at their own discretion all the time so sales people have to be there to make that possible. As a creator in the lawn care space I only feel comfortable suggesting people buy products if I understand how they work and can justify buying the products myself, that's something more lawn care pros and diy creators need to jump on board with, hopefully you'll push them to improve and look to alternatives and hopefully you'll grow too, id like to see you tackle these topics in a more comprehensive way, in a systemic way. I hope to hear back from you, feel free to reach out to me anytime.
You say a lot here but in some of it you're making some accusations that I think you have to back up. Like why not make your own rebuttal video? Also your part about liquid aeration products being beneficial based on their carbon contribution, that's way off. You could say that there are benefits to them being used as wetting agents but even then they are inferior to other wetting agent products that are available on the market today.
@@tiffanywhite2121 agreed, its something I need to do more of myself, when you take the time to read scientific research reports, which I do a lot of, that's the next logical step. I hope to improve on my sourcing and citations in the coming season.
@@TurfMechanic there is something kind of glitchy for me often and here in this comment thread today I have to go look at the comments in a web browser in order to see all of them, often some of them do not show up on the RUclips mobile app for me
If you can get an actual amount in the ground, compost for example has humic acid. However liquid humic acid is barely anything meaningful, it's so diluted and the dose recommendation is so small
Love your videos. I think it'd be interesting if you could do a video on moisture management products such as Hydretain, which claim a 50% or more water reduction requirement for turf.
That hydretain is magic stuff it pulls moisture from the air even though the hydretain is under the ground, the label claims nonsense,a RUclipsr repeats the nonsense & the rest of the youtubers parrot the nonsense.
In some of what you have said I agree. However, there are things in the soil that microorganisms can break down. On the lawncology And any of the other ones that I follow, they do not talk about liquid aeration being any magic cure. They simply say that things like molasses combined with other ingredients can help increase the activity of these microorganisms to break down items which are in the soil. If that is so, I would certainly think that would lessen compaction. Now, I am definitely a full believer in mechanical aeration. I am a full believer in punching holes in the soil and removing plugs. So are all of the RUclips people I seem to follow. Any of the ones that I follow are also I believe are in such. Some of them are not a believer in just poking holes with spikes on your shoes or with non-plug removal aeration. Basically the ones I have heard discuss that in particular are saying that if you just poke a hole in the soil eventually that soil will refill that hole. So I agree with that. And I definitely agree with pulling out plugs. I personally then would move those plugs to an area of the grass which need to be filled. Basically a hole in my grass or in my dirt which is easier to fill with the plugs then with going out and buying sand and soil combined. I have not seen anybody disagree with that. Maybe I just don't follow the ones that you are referring to. And even the one who said that liquid aeration was debunked also went on to say that it would do some benefit over a period of several or maybe even many years. Remember if you are having microorganisms eat thatch or even other items below the surface that would be a big help as far as I could tell. Of course, I should just tell everybody I am an accountant. I have a few degrees. I have an IQ of only 135. I am not a scientist. I have a business which I have run and owned for about 35 years. I have been self-employed for about 40 years. I do not work in the lawn care industry. And I do not work in science. I just work in logic. And so far nobody has told me on any of the people I follow including lawncology that liquid aeration is the only way to go. Nobody has told me that liquid aeration is a fast way to go. And in fact when it cools down in a couple of months in Las Vegas, I plan on having plugs pulled out of my lawn and the entire small lawn aerated. Oh I should tell you I have a very small lawn. My degrees are in business administration and accounting. And a minor in psychology. I still think Heidi behind a cartoon is not the way to go. If you want to convince people show us your bona fides. That would definitely go a long way for me to come back and say, this is a scientist and he has got a point of view to be reckoned with. Until then I will continue to watch your videos, the same way that I do watch the videos of South Park. Thank you. Even if I don't know whether you were correct 100% of the cases, I do know you do slant yourself towards your point of view. But then so does everybody. Including myself. I will watch the next one after I get done with this one. So you are getting, what you are looking for, eyeballs on your RUclips in order to make money or and get recognition. If you would love to get a hold of me off of RUclips, you are welcome to do so and I will keep a confidence about your identity. I will not tell who you are but I will come back here and say that you do have the background to know what you're talking about. Thank you again.
Although I do like John Perry and have a great deal of respect for him and GCF, I see no real world benefit from using AIR-8 overt the past 2 years. Maybe something improves at a molecular level, or on the white board, but it hasn't done jack shit for my compaction. 18 months ago I applied 1gal to a 500sq/ft area close to my foundation where chrysanthemums were growing in hard pack. Did another gallon a year later and I see no difference today. What sold me was the guy sticking his 4ft. soil probe into the ground using only 1 hand. Hah. so AIR-8 is getting kicked to the curb. Still on the fence with RGS which I've applied about 2.5gal per acre last fall, this summer and this fall on the main area along with max rates of Micro-Green, Green Pop and Green Effect but still waiting for my grass to be as green as it was when using the cheapest shit from WalMart. Pretty frustration going from a lawn maintenance budget of $300 a year to $1500 without a visible difference.I really would like to get your opining on RGS and Humics, Fulvics and Sea kelp in general
Oh EWs are awesome no doubt. Still i think physically removing compaction has its place. I also feel like maybe air8 was just a poor choice of name&claim. Liquid surfactants might have their own use too. Idk
You mean the efficacy trial which proves nothing. The same trial that the UGA PHD said there was no difference between using Air8 and a regular fertilizer. Is that the trial you’re talking about?
@@jacobmorissette2367 Sure - I haven’t seen the data, I was just asking for review of newer information that I thought would have been covered here. I’m not a turf scientist, and I don’t claim to be one, which is why I yield to the experts here, but I think combing through the newer videos is warranted in this case, as more people are likely to watch those first.
@@JLCVDUB I’m sure if JP made the data and details of the “study” public, @turf truth would be happy to go over and it speak to it, however, I am not holding my breath over ever seeing those. Instead, we are told what the results are and what we need to know.
@@Lawnvolution I understand what you’re saying, but it’s not for me. It’s for those that might think new information might change things. I’m not the one you need to convince, but as it stands, but people have already argued the age of the reference here. My point may be shortsighted, and I know that doesn’t change things, but as it stands, more are likely to side with his information as opposed to this and I think ensuring gaps are filled is key to suppressing misinformation. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Just stop. This is a debunking video that suffers from the same flaws as the videos it's debunking. I'm not saying it's wrong, I'm saying It lacks context and evidence. Some note worthy flaws is there is no mention of biological interplay, other than the grass it's self. This is where context would be helpful. A gulf course green doesn't contain much life, but a lot of lawns do. Warms, insects, and plant roots naturally alleviate soil compaction, if they didn't all the soil on earth would be hard as a rock. Roots chase water and insects chase roots. This would indicate that you can elevate soil compaction by increasing the permeability of the soil, then letting natural processes take it from there. Wet soil also requires less mechanical force to separate, so compaction might be the same but it's hardness will be lower. This will allow warms and roots to move through it more easily. Just for run you can compare Styrofoam and water. Styrofoam is a lot less dense than water, but it would take a lot of energy to swim through Styrofoam compared to swimming through water. Some context bound demonstrations would go a long way to help the video.
Thanks for the info, but now I have to question everything thing I believed to be true. Here's something I keep hearing different claims about. Some say if you mix sand and clay it turns hard like concrete; what say you. Thanks. I do wish you didn't curse so much, I hate to be a prude but there has to be a better way to get your point across, you're a smart man.
it is my understanding that pushup style putting greens all over the southeast are clay base topdressed with sand. Green speed and therefore hardness has become a significantly greater priority in the past 20 years but nobody's on concrete.
@Pat Seifert Thank you for commenting. We also were concerned and vacillated on whether to use such language. However, after realizing the term 'bullshit' is used by sociologists and psychologist (see articles below) to describe a specific issue without intending to be derogatory or offensive, we opted to include it. journal.sjdm.org/15/15923a/jdm15923a.pdf journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0146167219830415 journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0153419 pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30929263/ Thank you, TT
Well I guess it's gimmicky and people get a kick out of hearing it. I'll continue to watch as long as I'm learning and given alternatives for what you disagree with. I do appreciate your responding.
Dude, what's up? I've never had my comments removed before but it looks like that's what's happening. I'm trying to be kind to you here and in the comments that have been removed too, I'm even siding with you on the majority of your content, but I don't know what to think. Are you removing them? Or is this just a YT glitch? Just looking for positive discussion
@Turf Mechanic We do not delete any comments without providing an explanation, and we have not removed yours. Our assumption is that your post may have contained a link or some other content that the YT algorithms catch. You may want to check the YT comment policies and see if there is anything there that may explain why your comment was not posted. Thanks for viewing and commenting. TT
@@WooderBoyProductions No reason to get angry. This channel isn't about sales pitches to promote or profiting from videos promoting products where the link can be found in the description.
Because you asked i have several things i would like to know about. One of the lawn care guys was suggesting putting chicken crumbles, alfalfa pellets and molasses crumbles on the lawn to feed the microbs and make the soil better due to things decaying on the soil. He also said that it was cheaper. I tried these things, if you buy them all I don't think it's cheaper. I will say the molasses had a great smell! I would also like to know more about microbial life and beneficial nematodes, nobody seems to speak on these. One more thing, I get mushrooms in the yard, the YT guys say this is a good thing and it shows you have the right stuff going on in your lawn. I do continue to put down molasses, in liquid form, when i spray other stuff. I appreciate any videos you could provide on these.
Darn. I almost had to eat my words. I saw that they have got an email address and a telephone number posted. So I called the telephone number. All I got was a recording and the ability to leave my name and telephone number. Of course they say that they could use my name in their parodies or that's the wrong way to put it but in their RUclips channel. They may even use my telephone number in there. However that's not a problem if they should. I was going to give them my email address but I'd much rather hear from them faster if they're willing to tell me who they are and what their background is. Until then that phone number is worthless to me and probably to you and to anybody else. But remember they will possibly use your phone number and give it out to the world. Thank God that's not a problem with me. So, if you do not mind your phone number giving out, or being made fun of online, or in any other way, feel free to call that number. I'm so old it doesn't matter. I am self-employed so my employer will not fire me. And none of my employees really would give a damn. In fact they might find it humorous. Heck I might even find it humorous. I just noticed in a particular sequence here that John of lawncology started to say something and did say it. But then was cut off before he could possibly say anything more. The subject was whether or not a surfactant could change the pH balance. Maybe not. Then it goes on to say that therefore it's not a big enough factor to change the density. The amount of soap, which is what a surfactant is from my understanding, that I use to wash my dishes does not change the dish but it does remove the dirt. If I'd used a straight acid on my dishes well that would be a different story. Maybe even if I'd used five gallons of it in my dishwasher. I know it would change my dishwasher. Lol
This is a simple thing to digest, they sell 9 products all labeled different things (Air8, Humic 12, DeThatch etc etc) all pretty much vary the Humic Acid level have either Fulvic acid and a small amount of Potash. These are the Guaranteed Analysis, people who think 8% or 12% humic acid is going to decompact their soil I have a bridge to sell them. It plain and simple. You are sold a bottle of BS that tells you it has 12-14% "bio-stimulants" but are never told what the other 90% or so of the bottle is. Where is the control test done by an independent party testing this products for effectiveness? Truth is there is none if people want to believe a product works because they used it or their favorite RUclipsr said it worked, hey it your money you do you but you cannot get around the science of it all and the science behind it is that it is total BS product. People still believe the earth is flat so guess you can't convince everyone
@turftruth thank you for this episode as well as the rest of this season, I thoroughly enjoy and appreciate your content, for me it has been a bastion of hope in a place that is otherwise filled with misinformation and predatory marketing
Yeah you missed something. Jon referenced matt's INITIAL video about Air-8 and other "liquid aerators" and what they do. Matt took it down, and went more "clickbaity" calling it a scam. The conclusion of matt's video was that it doesn't relieve compaction, but it does the other things it claims to do, which is soften the soil to allow better water/nutrient penetration and root growth. Jon made another video about the university studies: ruclips.net/video/kXuEVldW_q4/видео.html. You didn't touch that one. You said there's no evidence to support his claim, but he presented the evidence there. So why'd you claim there's no evidence? Maybe you can rebut the evidence, or find holes in that study, but you didn't do that.
He didn’t present any evidence from the “study” (efficacy trial). He told you what he wanted you to know. The actual PHD doing the trials stated himself that it does at do anything that a standard fertilizer program couldn’t do. Where in the videos was that mentioned?
@@MikeBotrosDIYHomeGarden did you ever consider he deleted the video because he realized it was presenting misinformation? If you notice, his content has become more unbiased and much less marketing and advocating for certain products once he divorced himself from the DIY market.
@@jacobmorissette2367 i watched matt's whole call in show after he posted his "scam" video where he clarified what he meant by scam, the whole community was on there, and he acknowledged the positive aspects of the products. Where did the PhD himself state that? got a video or a link? I want to see it. I want to hear both sides well addressed. This was a weak video.
Friend, while it appears to a casual like myself that you are correct about all this, the Grass Factor video in question came out 2 years after the Lawncology video in question. That could not have been the video Lawncology was referring to. Someone must have changed their minds. I am just saying this does not portray the timeline fairly.
We all know about the fallout between JP and MM. Everybody grows and changes as new information is provided. MM changed his stance and broke away from bs tt is addressing today. Yea the video time line shows thats not the video JP was referring to but JP hasnt changed his stance. Idk im pretty sure TT knows this and is making a point to that avail.💕
@thegrassfactor learned better, I think even he can fall victim to misinformation on occasion, if he never learned or changed his mind then I could not be the big fan of his that I am
You must have missed Matt's previous videos where he supported liquid aeration. Not hard to look at the dates of those videos and see how you're being disingenuous.
@@Lawnvolution but it does it in a bullshit way. They make it seem like john perry was lying when he stated that Matt made a video (which supported air-8) then cuts to video matt made much later where he calls liquid aeration a "scam". Why not use john perry's video about the study that is currently being done with air-8? Hmm
What’s up Turf Truth! Just Subscribe, I understand that liquid aerator does NOT replace mechanical intervention, I’m actually just curious if it does have ANY positive effects on your soil , even if it’s not what is claimed? Benefits of Humic & Fulvic Acid ?
Some liquid aeration products may have a wetting-agent effect, which can be beneficial if soil moisture is a limiting factor. Of course, this would be an expensive option compared to products designed as soil wetting agents which are normally less expensive. We will go into humic and fulvic acids in the next season, but in short, they can be beneficial in very specific stress situations. If these stresses are not present, using humic and fulvic acid is expensive and will not likely result in better quality turf than urea.
@@johngrinnell oh I remember how that was marketed. intentionally withholding product to hype up sales. I was told they were doing that with beef as well out here in Texas
While I find your scientific explanations concise and highly educational, I do have a beef with the way you go about it. Perhaps the people making videos should have a disclaimer that the best way to relieve compaction and decrease bulk density in turf soils is by performing mechanical aeration. You could have explained that mechanical aeration is ideally best performed when soil conditions are conducive to not only pull a deep plug but to also fracture the soil profile around the hole from the violence of driving the tine into and out of the ground. I've been forced to aerate greens when they were so wet the core would suck back into the hole. When a club gives you two days to aerify, you have to try to get it done even if it wasn't the best conditions. Most people with any turf knowledge know that mechanical aerification is the best way to relieve compaction but attacking and belittling people in some kind of vendetta brings to question your motives. Why can't you generalize claims without singling out individuals and explain the faults you see and present the science as you see it. I guess this is the new, "turf police", in charge of making sure that one of the most successful and resilient plant species on the planet is grown under one standardized method.
You have to ask yourself, what is the value of aerating dry rock hard clay soil with a spoon tine aerator? What depth can you even achieve? Is there any fracture involved? If there is fracture then is it greater than a depth of 1 inch? If it is at 1 inch then what is the valve to the root system that we are trying to achieve? Conversely, if that same, heavy clay soil is aerified when saturated and assuming a greater depth, does the tine not compact the hole wall sealing off lateral air movement from the hole? What is the long term value for all this work when the soil chemistry and basic structure blends back together over time. Ideally aeration is best achieved by the actual mechanical process followed by filling the hole with a material of larger physical property or that of carbon base to feed microbes. The goal of aeration is to increase root mass and structure thus giving more sustainability to the plant. As these roots cycle, voids are created helping to subsoil beyond the aerification hole. Eventually the cycling of deeper rooting is helping to relieve bulk densities over time. I think of many ways to achieve this using nutrients and soil conditioners. If the goal of aeration is to increase rooting depth and mass then why not think that way in a seasonal application program? There are many ways to achieve increase root mass and health.
Never Tried Air 8 but have been spoon feeding my lawn with Green Punch all season and it’s Phenomenal so I have no reason to question any of their other products. As far as “liquid aeration” products.. I have been using Kelp 4 Less’s Aeration + Yucca and it does a good job for what’s it’s supposed to do (yes I know it doesn’t relieve compaction) but now I really really want to try Air 8, thanks for reminding me
dude, you can spoon feed with ammonium sulfate in powder form for pennies and add some ferrous sulfate for that greene effect---for nickels. its your dough. not mine.
"As far as “liquid aeration” products.. I have been using Kelp 4 Less’s Aeration + Yucca and it does a good job for what’s it’s supposed to do" what does that mean? What is it supposed to do? Your take away was science says its not effective, so I must get some to try? Or are you just saying you support GCF and you need to get some to review on your channel?
@@harryharry3193 ammonium sulfate used regularly is not good for your soil; it should be used situationally at best IMO. My guess is TT would agree on that and come back with lots of citations to back up that claim. Sure it's used a lot in lawns and big ag but that doesn't mean it's healthy for the soil or for the grass over the long term.
So funny how videos like this are arrogant enough to tell people 'no, you're doing it all wrong' and then they never show their lawns? What are you trying to hide?
We are still here. Our content takes some time to create. Season 2 is being created now, but it will be some time. Thanks for your interest in our channel.
What's in it for you? 183 comments on this channel. Just browsing these videos it's you and a handful of other people all going to great lengths feeding the comments section. Don't tell me it's because you're passionate about the honesty of pisswater for lawns. Just saying defamation lawsuits flush cooperatives like you out - especially if there's shared revenue or paid contributions involved. Or you're just really passionate about the integrity of $30 Lawncare pisswater...
Since I sincerely doubt you have ever trialed any of these products I’m assuming your going to bash the ingredients in them. I was hoping someone with a “PHD” would be smarter than that. I have used one of the ones pictured for several years and see marked results every season! Mechanical aeration is oversold for residential lawns and you should debunk that!
The one you use, research the active ingredient in a university trial or study. See if it aerates. How did you conclude with marked results the one pictured aerates?
How can these videos only get 200 likes? Whoever this is, should be making a ton of money for setting the record straight instead of the BSers, but I guess its always been the case that good BS brings the bucks.
Never would i have expected Trent Rezner and Hitch reference in a turf video. HItch knew BS given his ilk, but I suspect he would loathe the post modern DC-Davos oligarchy and liquid aeration
Selective editing to build a narrative - is this CNN? I guess this is rampant in all university sciences these days, not just public health. Good work Prof.
That little pitch is almost verbatim what AH says. Not only does Jake not know how any of it works, he can’t put together his own thoughts to try and sell it.
Let's get this video viewed enough times so that anytime someone searches 'liquid aeration' this video pops up before any bullshit sales videos.
TT
Hear ye, hear ye!
ruclips.net/video/NUFD5RxUix4/видео.html go to the 1:25 mark
@@benh580 yeah ben I've seen a ton on these products and when TT quoted Jon Perry talking about the super high pH I thought we were going to get a science bomb dropped but nope. Just bullshit bullshit bullshit. In my mind high pH has a high potential for reaction... yet I'm not a soil scientist so maybe I'm full of bullshit too. But then again I'm not claiming to be one so there's that.
@@justinmurray4397
high pH just means there's more available hydroxide OH- than free hydrogen H+
The information that turf truth shares is definitely not BS but instead it is entirely factual and objective. Maybe the downside of this is that it can be a bit more complicated or for some difficult to understand
@@benh580 This story has been told a thousand times here it feels like. Matt tried it and he learned better. If you're wondering about his perspective on liquidation you'd be better suited to look at his more recent content.
The John Perry video aired 3yrs ago. The Grass Factor Liquid aeration video came out 1 year ago. Your time line is slightly off.
Its all the public will see tho right? Unless that old video is still up?
@@tiffanywhite2121 no Matt Martin took the video promoting Air-8 down and replaced it with his famous tag lined scam video. He also coined the term for John’s RGS product “really good Shit” them wavered on that also. Matt is one jealous dude!!!
@@reallmccoy9043 well if thats the only video up then its all the public will have to go on. 🧐
Sales videos are definitely one-sided, they don't present the whole picture very well but neither do debunking videos. Usually the full truth is somewhere in the middle where it gets more boring. I've already said a lot of what was said in this video on my channel, very little new information presented here although your presentation is far more polished than mind. I first started saying this stuff in my video where I discuss liquid aerate vs core but I also present some of the benefits of using the liquid products while also informing viewers that they are optional products and unnecessary and a bit overhyped via sales language. Personally I mechanically core aerate and suggest my viewers do the same but I also apply ocassional apps of liquids for the carbon component and wetting effect in regards to water penetration. I love how you go down to the scientific level in your analysis and you are obviously a good marketer too, you are slinging free information packaged in a shocking delivery and now targeting the YT algorithm. I'm impressed but I dislike the demonizing of people. At some point you may debunk me and point out some things I've said wrong or worded poorly and that's fine but viewers of your channel should always keep in mind the one-sidedness of your delivery and how the truth you present is not the full truth due to the omission of information you purposefully ignore. Keep up your mission for science based information and halting misinformation, im all for that, but I hope that one day you'll see the value in not presenting your message in disguise while also presenting a multi sided message, one that takes larger complexities into consideration. For instance liquid aerate products do benefit the soil in some other ways which you could go into for the viewers sake. If we can increase critters in the lawn then those critters can help with physical aeration in a natural way. The carbon component in liquid aeration products can help support biological life in the soil - is it the best way to do it? That's an interesting question to look into but it's at least a tool in shed. Can you do it by buying cheaper products? Yeah probably but we live in a consumer society and people buy stuff at their own discretion all the time so sales people have to be there to make that possible. As a creator in the lawn care space I only feel comfortable suggesting people buy products if I understand how they work and can justify buying the products myself, that's something more lawn care pros and diy creators need to jump on board with, hopefully you'll push them to improve and look to alternatives and hopefully you'll grow too, id like to see you tackle these topics in a more comprehensive way, in a systemic way. I hope to hear back from you, feel free to reach out to me anytime.
I don't know I really do like his cite sourcing.
You say a lot here but in some of it you're making some accusations that I think you have to back up. Like why not make your own rebuttal video?
Also your part about liquid aeration products being beneficial based on their carbon contribution, that's way off. You could say that there are benefits to them being used as wetting agents but even then they are inferior to other wetting agent products that are available on the market today.
@@tiffanywhite2121 agreed, its something I need to do more of myself, when you take the time to read scientific research reports, which I do a lot of, that's the next logical step. I hope to improve on my sourcing and citations in the coming season.
@@TurfMechanic there is something kind of glitchy for me often and here in this comment thread today I have to go look at the comments in a web browser in order to see all of them, often some of them do not show up on the RUclips mobile app for me
@@MrStangdawg who is?
So is there any benefit to turf grass to apply any humic acid products?
I would like to see that too. 💯
Grass factor did a video on that as well lol
@@steelcutlawn5593 yeah Matt is 2 faced guy!!
If you can get an actual amount in the ground, compost for example has humic acid. However liquid humic acid is barely anything meaningful, it's so diluted and the dose recommendation is so small
Can you do a humic acid video please
Love your videos. I think it'd be interesting if you could do a video on moisture management products such as Hydretain, which claim a 50% or more water reduction requirement for turf.
Who's video?
I don’t understand how he’s doing videos on stuff he hasn’t personally tested😂
That hydretain is magic stuff it pulls moisture from the air even though the hydretain is under the ground, the label claims nonsense,a RUclipsr repeats the nonsense & the rest of the youtubers parrot the nonsense.
Anyone that references NIN is all good in my book. Thanks for the content TT. Please don't have us waiting too long for season 2.
I am having trouble with soil constipation so I guess that air-8 product has not helped with compaction it is just an expensive surfactant ???
Constipation? Lol it does sound like it tho
Too expensive. It seems like itd just be better to core it
In some of what you have said I agree. However, there are things in the soil that microorganisms can break down. On the lawncology And any of the other ones that I follow, they do not talk about liquid aeration being any magic cure. They simply say that things like molasses combined with other ingredients can help increase the activity of these microorganisms to break down items which are in the soil. If that is so, I would certainly think that would lessen compaction. Now, I am definitely a full believer in mechanical aeration. I am a full believer in punching holes in the soil and removing plugs. So are all of the RUclips people I seem to follow. Any of the ones that I follow are also I believe are in such. Some of them are not a believer in just poking holes with spikes on your shoes or with non-plug removal aeration. Basically the ones I have heard discuss that in particular are saying that if you just poke a hole in the soil eventually that soil will refill that hole. So I agree with that. And I definitely agree with pulling out plugs. I personally then would move those plugs to an area of the grass which need to be filled. Basically a hole in my grass or in my dirt which is easier to fill with the plugs then with going out and buying sand and soil combined. I have not seen anybody disagree with that. Maybe I just don't follow the ones that you are referring to. And even the one who said that liquid aeration was debunked also went on to say that it would do some benefit over a period of several or maybe even many years. Remember if you are having microorganisms eat thatch or even other items below the surface that would be a big help as far as I could tell. Of course, I should just tell everybody I am an accountant. I have a few degrees. I have an IQ of only 135. I am not a scientist. I have a business which I have run and owned for about 35 years. I have been self-employed for about 40 years. I do not work in the lawn care industry. And I do not work in science. I just work in logic. And so far nobody has told me on any of the people I follow including lawncology that liquid aeration is the only way to go. Nobody has told me that liquid aeration is a fast way to go. And in fact when it cools down in a couple of months in Las Vegas, I plan on having plugs pulled out of my lawn and the entire small lawn aerated. Oh I should tell you I have a very small lawn. My degrees are in business administration and accounting. And a minor in psychology. I still think Heidi behind a cartoon is not the way to go. If you want to convince people show us your bona fides. That would definitely go a long way for me to come back and say, this is a scientist and he has got a point of view to be reckoned with. Until then I will continue to watch your videos, the same way that I do watch the videos of South Park. Thank you. Even if I don't know whether you were correct 100% of the cases, I do know you do slant yourself towards your point of view. But then so does everybody. Including myself. I will watch the next one after I get done with this one. So you are getting, what you are looking for, eyeballs on your RUclips in order to make money or and get recognition. If you would love to get a hold of me off of RUclips, you are welcome to do so and I will keep a confidence about your identity. I will not tell who you are but I will come back here and say that you do have the background to know what you're talking about. Thank you again.
Turf Truth. Every time I watch one of your videos my pants get really tight. #Eggplant
Lmao
Must be all the Humic
Although I do like John Perry and have a great deal of respect for him and GCF, I see no real world benefit from using AIR-8 overt the past 2 years. Maybe something improves at a molecular level, or on the white board, but it hasn't done jack shit for my compaction. 18 months ago I applied 1gal to a 500sq/ft area close to my foundation where chrysanthemums were growing in hard pack. Did another gallon a year later and I see no difference today. What sold me was the guy sticking his 4ft. soil probe into the ground using only 1 hand. Hah. so AIR-8 is getting kicked to the curb. Still on the fence with RGS which I've applied about 2.5gal per acre last fall, this summer and this fall on the main area along with max rates of Micro-Green, Green Pop and Green Effect but still waiting for my grass to be as green as it was when using the cheapest shit from WalMart. Pretty frustration going from a lawn maintenance budget of $300 a year to $1500 without a visible difference.I really would like to get your opining on RGS and Humics, Fulvics and Sea kelp in general
earthworms are the best aerators.
Oh EWs are awesome no doubt. Still i think physically removing compaction has its place. I also feel like maybe air8 was just a poor choice of name&claim. Liquid surfactants might have their own use too. Idk
Truth on the worms. 🤬
Save yourself the "bullshit" of watching this one, I'll sum it up right here. Salesmen will bullshit you and core aeration is king.
Nah its not bullshit. It explains and cites sources. Its definitely a good source of information. 🤘
Care to review the more recent (7mos or so)GCF AIR-8 Videos and the studies they've done with the University of Georgia?
You mean the efficacy trial which proves nothing. The same trial that the UGA PHD said there was no difference between using Air8 and a regular fertilizer. Is that the trial you’re talking about?
@@jacobmorissette2367 Sure - I haven’t seen the data, I was just asking for review of newer information that I thought would have been covered here. I’m not a turf scientist, and I don’t claim to be one, which is why I yield to the experts here, but I think combing through the newer videos is warranted in this case, as more people are likely to watch those first.
@@JLCVDUB I’m sure if JP made the data and details of the “study” public, @turf truth would be happy to go over and it speak to it, however, I am not holding my breath over ever seeing those. Instead, we are told what the results are and what we need to know.
@@JLCVDUB whether something is new or old. Science is science. Facts are facts. Ingredients are ingredients.
@@Lawnvolution I understand what you’re saying, but it’s not for me. It’s for those that might think new information might change things. I’m not the one you need to convince, but as it stands, but people have already argued the age of the reference here. My point may be shortsighted, and I know that doesn’t change things, but as it stands, more are likely to side with his information as opposed to this and I think ensuring gaps are filled is key to suppressing misinformation. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Is this channel finished making content.
No, we are creating season 2 now, but it will be some time before we release it. Thanks for your interest in our channel.
Humichar, please. Thanks!
Just stop. This is a debunking video that suffers from the same flaws as the videos it's debunking. I'm not saying it's wrong, I'm saying It lacks context and evidence. Some note worthy flaws is there is no mention of biological interplay, other than the grass it's self. This is where context would be helpful. A gulf course green doesn't contain much life, but a lot of lawns do. Warms, insects, and plant roots naturally alleviate soil compaction, if they didn't all the soil on earth would be hard as a rock. Roots chase water and insects chase roots. This would indicate that you can elevate soil compaction by increasing the permeability of the soil, then letting natural processes take it from there. Wet soil also requires less mechanical force to separate, so compaction might be the same but it's hardness will be lower. This will allow warms and roots to move through it more easily.
Just for run you can compare Styrofoam and water. Styrofoam is a lot less dense than water, but it would take a lot of energy to swim through Styrofoam compared to swimming through water.
Some context bound demonstrations would go a long way to help the video.
What are warms? What is a gulf course? Are you 2 years old?
@@roger4880 No, I have dyslexia. Thanks for asking
Thanks for the info, but now I have to question everything thing I believed to be true. Here's something I keep hearing different claims about. Some say if you mix sand and clay it turns hard like concrete; what say you. Thanks. I do wish you didn't curse so much, I hate to be a prude but there has to be a better way to get your point across, you're a smart man.
it is my understanding that pushup style putting greens all over the southeast are clay base topdressed with sand. Green speed and therefore hardness has become a significantly greater priority in the past 20 years but nobody's on concrete.
@Pat Seifert Thank you for commenting. We also were concerned and vacillated on whether to use such language. However, after realizing the term 'bullshit' is used by sociologists and psychologist (see articles below) to describe a specific issue without intending to be derogatory or offensive, we opted to include it.
journal.sjdm.org/15/15923a/jdm15923a.pdf
journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0146167219830415
journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0153419
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30929263/
Thank you,
TT
Well I guess it's gimmicky and people get a kick out of hearing it. I'll continue to watch as long as I'm learning and given alternatives for what you disagree with. I do appreciate your responding.
Dude, what's up? I've never had my comments removed before but it looks like that's what's happening. I'm trying to be kind to you here and in the comments that have been removed too, I'm even siding with you on the majority of your content, but I don't know what to think. Are you removing them? Or is this just a YT glitch? Just looking for positive discussion
@Turf Mechanic We do not delete any comments without providing an explanation, and we have not removed yours. Our assumption is that your post may have contained a link or some other content that the YT algorithms catch. You may want to check the YT comment policies and see if there is anything there that may explain why your comment was not posted.
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@@TurfTruth thanks, no links in it, ill check wording, maybe yt flagged a word for some reason. 🤙
👍Can't wait for this one.
Hopefully you don’t get angry and block people.
@@WooderBoyProductions No reason to get angry. This channel isn't about sales pitches to promote or profiting from videos promoting products where the link can be found in the description.
@@SuperTA329 so why the block on Instagram?
Turf Truth I just watched the entire Season 1 for the 3rd time. Love the content! Can't wait for Season 2!! When will they be released?
Aww...thanks! Working on season 2 now, but our content takes time. We hope to have it out by the end of the year.
@@TurfTruth can't wait!!!!!
Because you asked i have several things i would like to know about. One of the lawn care guys was suggesting putting chicken crumbles, alfalfa pellets and molasses crumbles on the lawn to feed the microbs and make the soil better due to things decaying on the soil. He also said that it was cheaper. I tried these things, if you buy them all I don't think it's cheaper. I will say the molasses had a great smell! I would also like to know more about microbial life and beneficial nematodes, nobody seems to speak on these. One more thing, I get mushrooms in the yard, the YT guys say this is a good thing and it shows you have the right stuff going on in your lawn. I do continue to put down molasses, in liquid form, when i spray other stuff. I appreciate any videos you could provide on these.
I love those videos of Matt on the white board.
No more turf truth?
Darn. I almost had to eat my words. I saw that they have got an email address and a telephone number posted. So I called the telephone number. All I got was a recording and the ability to leave my name and telephone number. Of course they say that they could use my name in their parodies or that's the wrong way to put it but in their RUclips channel. They may even use my telephone number in there. However that's not a problem if they should. I was going to give them my email address but I'd much rather hear from them faster if they're willing to tell me who they are and what their background is. Until then that phone number is worthless to me and probably to you and to anybody else. But remember they will possibly use your phone number and give it out to the world. Thank God that's not a problem with me. So, if you do not mind your phone number giving out, or being made fun of online, or in any other way, feel free to call that number. I'm so old it doesn't matter. I am self-employed so my employer will not fire me. And none of my employees really would give a damn. In fact they might find it humorous. Heck I might even find it humorous. I just noticed in a particular sequence here that John of lawncology started to say something and did say it. But then was cut off before he could possibly say anything more. The subject was whether or not a surfactant could change the pH balance. Maybe not. Then it goes on to say that therefore it's not a big enough factor to change the density. The amount of soap, which is what a surfactant is from my understanding, that I use to wash my dishes does not change the dish but it does remove the dirt. If I'd used a straight acid on my dishes well that would be a different story. Maybe even if I'd used five gallons of it in my dishwasher. I know it would change my dishwasher. Lol
This is a simple thing to digest, they sell 9 products all labeled different things (Air8, Humic 12, DeThatch etc etc) all pretty much vary the Humic Acid level have either Fulvic acid and a small amount of Potash. These are the Guaranteed Analysis, people who think 8% or 12% humic acid is going to decompact their soil I have a bridge to sell them. It plain and simple. You are sold a bottle of BS that tells you it has 12-14% "bio-stimulants" but are never told what the other 90% or so of the bottle is.
Where is the control test done by an independent party testing this products for effectiveness? Truth is there is none if people want to believe a product works because they used it or their favorite RUclipsr said it worked, hey it your money you do you but you cannot get around the science of it all and the science behind it is that it is total BS product. People still believe the earth is flat so guess you can't convince everyone
@turftruth thank you for this episode as well as the rest of this season, I thoroughly enjoy and appreciate your content, for me it has been a bastion of hope in a place that is otherwise filled with misinformation and predatory marketing
@6r33k633k Thanks! 🤩
Ditto
Here one minute gone the next
Another great video. Thanks for breaking down soil compaction like this. Looking forward to Season 2.
Those liquids are literally coloured water, anyone buying them should ask for a refund.
SO ARE THERE OTHER PRODUCTS TO PROVIDE ORGANIC NUTRIENTS LIKE SEA KELP AND SUCH?
I AM NOT SURE BUT I USE LIQUID SEAKELP FOR ITS GROWTH HORMONES!
Yeah you missed something. Jon referenced matt's INITIAL video about Air-8 and other "liquid aerators" and what they do. Matt took it down, and went more "clickbaity" calling it a scam. The conclusion of matt's video was that it doesn't relieve compaction, but it does the other things it claims to do, which is soften the soil to allow better water/nutrient penetration and root growth. Jon made another video about the university studies: ruclips.net/video/kXuEVldW_q4/видео.html. You didn't touch that one. You said there's no evidence to support his claim, but he presented the evidence there. So why'd you claim there's no evidence? Maybe you can rebut the evidence, or find holes in that study, but you didn't do that.
People also missed that Matt discussed the wrong active ingredient in Air8 as well...
@@pha_que_jb4605 I wish matt hadn't removed his original video.
He didn’t present any evidence from the “study” (efficacy trial). He told you what he wanted you to know. The actual PHD doing the trials stated himself that it does at do anything that a standard fertilizer program couldn’t do. Where in the videos was that mentioned?
@@MikeBotrosDIYHomeGarden did you ever consider he deleted the video because he realized it was presenting misinformation? If you notice, his content has become more unbiased and much less marketing and advocating for certain products once he divorced himself from the DIY market.
@@jacobmorissette2367 i watched matt's whole call in show after he posted his "scam" video where he clarified what he meant by scam, the whole community was on there, and he acknowledged the positive aspects of the products. Where did the PhD himself state that? got a video or a link? I want to see it. I want to hear both sides well addressed. This was a weak video.
Where did he go. I miss these videos. Helped me out a lot.
Great season. I hope not too many feelings were hurt
Oh you know there were. Idk why they take it so personally. TT is just sharing his research conclusion. ☕
Jake’s we’re. I asked him about this vid and he said liquid aeration products don’t work. Except the one he shills. Lol.
@@tiffanywhite2121 you’re banging this robot aren’t you
Friend, while it appears to a casual like myself that you are correct about all this, the Grass Factor video in question came out 2 years after the Lawncology video in question. That could not have been the video Lawncology was referring to. Someone must have changed their minds. I am just saying this does not portray the timeline fairly.
We all know about the fallout between JP and MM. Everybody grows and changes as new information is provided. MM changed his stance and broke away from bs tt is addressing today. Yea the video time line shows thats not the video JP was referring to but JP hasnt changed his stance. Idk im pretty sure TT knows this and is making a point to that avail.💕
@thegrassfactor learned better, I think even he can fall victim to misinformation on occasion, if he never learned or changed his mind then I could not be the big fan of his that I am
You must have missed Matt's previous videos where he supported liquid aeration. Not hard to look at the dates of those videos and see how you're being disingenuous.
This video is about bullshit of liquid aeration.
@@Lawnvolution you mean this video is just full of bullshit. That is all.
@@Lawnvolution but it does it in a bullshit way. They make it seem like john perry was lying when he stated that Matt made a video (which supported air-8) then cuts to video matt made much later where he calls liquid aeration a "scam".
Why not use john perry's video about the study that is currently being done with air-8? Hmm
@@benh580 this video is about bullshit of liquid aeration. Not about feelings.
@@benh580 oh “the study”
What’s up Turf Truth! Just Subscribe, I understand that liquid aerator does NOT replace mechanical intervention, I’m actually just curious if it does have ANY positive effects on your soil , even if it’s not what is claimed? Benefits of Humic & Fulvic Acid ?
Some liquid aeration products may have a wetting-agent effect, which can be beneficial if soil moisture is a limiting factor. Of course, this would be an expensive option compared to products designed as soil wetting agents which are normally less expensive.
We will go into humic and fulvic acids in the next season, but in short, they can be beneficial in very specific stress situations. If these stresses are not present, using humic and fulvic acid is expensive and will not likely result in better quality turf than urea.
@@TurfTruth Awesome! Thanks for the response, greatly appreciated!
What are your thoughts on liquid dethatching? Is it overhyped marketing too?
@benjamin morgan Did you take a peek at our topic list for season 2? 🤫
@@TurfTruth Nope, but I can't wait!
We're due for some more turf truth!!
Its about time for turf truth to wake from hibernation. Let's go!!!!!!! 😁
What about Doc’s Super Juice?
Yes i would like to see that too.💯
What about it?
@@tiffanywhite2121 and also the HumiChar
@@johngrinnell oh I remember how that was marketed. intentionally withholding product to hype up sales. I was told they were doing that with beef as well out here in Texas
Why do one on superjuice? Everyone already knows thats BS.
While I find your scientific explanations concise and highly educational, I do have a beef with the way you go about it. Perhaps the people making videos should have a disclaimer that the best way to relieve compaction and decrease bulk density in turf soils is by performing mechanical aeration. You could have explained that mechanical aeration is ideally best performed when soil conditions are conducive to not only pull a deep plug but to also fracture the soil profile around the hole from the violence of driving the tine into and out of the ground. I've been forced to aerate greens when they were so wet the core would suck back into the hole. When a club gives you two days to aerify, you have to try to get it done even if it wasn't the best conditions. Most people with any turf knowledge know that mechanical aerification is the best way to relieve compaction but attacking and belittling people in some kind of vendetta brings to question your motives. Why can't you generalize claims without singling out individuals and explain the faults you see and present the science as you see it. I guess this is the new, "turf police", in charge of making sure that one of the most successful and resilient plant species on the planet is grown under one standardized method.
I agree this is aimed at a surprising large Venn Diagram of people who like grass and RUclips drama
You have to ask yourself, what is the value of aerating dry rock hard clay soil with a spoon tine aerator? What depth can you even achieve? Is there any fracture involved? If there is fracture then is it greater than a depth of 1 inch? If it is at 1 inch then what is the valve to the root system that we are trying to achieve? Conversely, if that same, heavy clay soil is aerified when saturated and assuming a greater depth, does the tine not compact the hole wall sealing off lateral air movement from the hole? What is the long term value for all this work when the soil chemistry and basic structure blends back together over time. Ideally aeration is best achieved by the actual mechanical process followed by filling the hole with a material of larger physical property or that of carbon base to feed microbes. The goal of aeration is to increase root mass and structure thus giving more sustainability to the plant. As these roots cycle, voids are created helping to subsoil beyond the aerification hole. Eventually the cycling of deeper rooting is helping to relieve bulk densities over time. I think of many ways to achieve this using nutrients and soil conditioners. If the goal of aeration is to increase rooting depth and mass then why not think that way in a seasonal application program? There are many ways to achieve increase root mass and health.
Season 2 Coming soon?
Jeez is it October 26th yet?!?
Never Tried Air 8 but have been spoon feeding my lawn with Green Punch all season and it’s Phenomenal so I have no reason to question any of their other products.
As far as “liquid aeration” products.. I have been using Kelp 4 Less’s Aeration + Yucca and it does a good job for what’s it’s supposed to do (yes I know it doesn’t relieve compaction) but now I really really want to try Air 8, thanks for reminding me
dude, you can spoon feed with ammonium sulfate in powder form for pennies and add some ferrous sulfate for that greene effect---for nickels. its your dough. not mine.
@@harryharry3193 I know but I like the convenience.
I can also make my coffee in a French press but I much prefer the convenience of a kuerig.
@@PrincessCutLawnCare yea and if we are comparing apples here..... you are also getting a kick back from Kuerig.....
"As far as “liquid aeration” products.. I have been using Kelp 4 Less’s Aeration + Yucca and it does a good job for what’s it’s supposed to do" what does that mean? What is it supposed to do? Your take away was science says its not effective, so I must get some to try? Or are you just saying you support GCF and you need to get some to review on your channel?
@@harryharry3193 ammonium sulfate used regularly is not good for your soil; it should be used situationally at best IMO. My guess is TT would agree on that and come back with lots of citations to back up that claim. Sure it's used a lot in lawns and big ag but that doesn't mean it's healthy for the soil or for the grass over the long term.
I mean do you really need to make a video about this? Everyone knows there are brown water and core aeration is the way.
@Static Alpha You just summed up our 14 minute video with only 24 words. Well done! 🤣
@@TurfTruth hahah no disrespect to you, i know it takes a lot of time to put this out. Keep the great work
if "brown water" is a humic product that stuff is just more scam garbage
Matt, just admit you’re Turf Truth 🤣
@@MrStangdawg couldnt have said it better myself 💯
Well done
So funny how videos like this are arrogant enough to tell people 'no, you're doing it all wrong' and then they never show their lawns?
What are you trying to hide?
Why aren’t the The Big B S’s laying down any comments? Interesting!😂
The BSers are trying not to add traffic flow to the videos by not commenting. It would seem though their faithful few cannot help themselves. 🤘
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Please recommend books that have these truths
Any Turf Management text books from a degree program.
I believe TT cites his sources in the descriptions.
Your telling me that Doc was wrong….?
Did you retire it has been a year since have seen a new video.
We are still here. Our content takes some time to create. Season 2 is being created now, but it will be some time. Thanks for your interest in our channel.
@@TurfTruth Are “seasons” a decade apart? Or was this… in your own AI voice… “bull$hit”??
Any new content on the Horizon?
Thanks for spreading the truth once again...
Watch...the last episode wont have the haters on it nearly to the degree this video will. I wonder why that is 🤔🤪
I can see I was right
Why you replying to yourself haha?
What's in it for you? 183 comments on this channel. Just browsing these videos it's you and a handful of other people all going to great lengths feeding the comments section.
Don't tell me it's because you're passionate about the honesty of pisswater for lawns.
Just saying defamation lawsuits flush cooperatives like you out - especially if there's shared revenue or paid contributions involved.
Or you're just really passionate about the integrity of $30 Lawncare pisswater...
Since I sincerely doubt you have ever trialed any of these products I’m assuming your going to bash the ingredients in them. I was hoping someone with a “PHD” would be smarter than that. I have used one of the ones pictured for several years and see marked results every season! Mechanical aeration is oversold for residential lawns and you should debunk that!
The one you use, research the active ingredient in a university trial or study. See if it aerates.
How did you conclude with marked results the one pictured aerates?
@@Lawnvolution Because he can penetrate his soil as deep as he wants now. Before Air 8, the soil only consented to shallow penetration.
@Yards Done Right you should watch this video. It defines soil compaction and how to alleviate too. Bulk density.
@@krusej23 who can?
I now realize that this was a sex joke...lmao well alrighty then 🍆
How’s that pallet of 0-0-50 that GCF sent you to supplement your liquid program and failing lawns doing?
Awesome!!! GG
wow liquid aeration just put the entire plow industry out of business.
I love you man. The truth will set them free🤣🤣🤣
How can these videos only get 200 likes? Whoever this is, should be making a ton of money for setting the record straight instead of the BSers, but I guess its always been the case that good BS brings the bucks.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Greeat Stuff!!!
Great stuff ! Keep up the truth giving ! I called this liquid snake oil years ago! It’s really Surprising how much BS is out there!!
only trent
I met the man, the myth, the legend on my channel. Turf Truth is a great guy. Keep up the work Turf Truth.
well well well
Never would i have expected Trent Rezner and Hitch reference in a turf video. HItch knew BS given his ilk, but I suspect he would loathe the post modern DC-Davos oligarchy and liquid aeration
Never believed in liquid aeration lol. Just didn’t make sense.
Boy these guys didn’t last long. I was thoroughly enjoying these videos.
Selective editing to build a narrative - is this CNN? I guess this is rampant in all university sciences these days, not just public health. Good work Prof.
So, after watching this video and researching the claims linked, do you trust liquid aeration as a product to aerate soil?
@@Lawnvolution I am sure ole Scruff Mcgruff will be on the case in no time.
@@Lawnvolution lol the answer must be no. Wetting agent sure. A sole solution for physically compact soil? No.
@@tiffanywhite2121 I guess Mr Chet is still building his investigation on liquid aeration. Haha.
such rubbish and talking in circles at 5:40
@@tiffanywhite2121 he’s referring to a clip used not the TT video itself.
@@jacobmorissette2367 ahhh that makes more sense
That little pitch is almost verbatim what AH says. Not only does Jake not know how any of it works, he can’t put together his own thoughts to try and sell it.
I wasted my money on Simple lawn solutions liquid aeration last year. Wish this video was out then.
It works as a wetting agent so it's not a waste but not what you thought you were getting
@@krusej23 Yeah, and definitely not the cheapest one I could get either.
This could be the most boring video i have ever heard