Hope you've all enjoyed the series! The car is now available for bids on eBay: bit.ly/is200auction As many of you have noticed, you have to be pre-approved before you're allowed to bid. This is a precaution we have to take to make sure that no one is scamming the charity. We are going through the process of pre-approving bidders now - thanks for your patience guys, and good luck to all bidders!
Bratsoni I have had it a couple years now. Last week I put 18s on it and decent rubber. Longest I've owned a car so if you make an offer I may sell. Happy to email you details and pictures.
I really like where this is headed! It's nice, simple, and somewhat scientific! Plus you don't make terribly long boring videos we have to sit through to get to the good part.
Looking good. I'm tired watching new car reviews, and I love to see this type of videos. Watching a old good car turning in to a track machine is so much joyful.
***** Just see the CGP Grey Channel, he does a video every few months and his videos get tons of views very fast when compared to other channels his size. Less videos=>higher value in the viewers' mind=>more excitement about a new episode=>more views At the same time Less videos=>less stuff to watch=>more time to watch the same number of videos=>more views from people who don't have enough time
I agree that light wheels and semi-slicks help, but one thing: old tyres in this test were for winter season. It increased the difference in lap time in compare to even regular summer tyres :)
Very much glossed over the fact the original tyres were winter tyres! Surprising that going from worn winter tyres to lightweight rims and semi slick tyres makes so little difference, lap time wise.
hmm maybe we should write to the BBC.......I think Alex reminds me of a younger Jeremy Clarkson not in looks....but in humor and presenting skill....unlike the current trio its to scripted....I love Mr LeBlanc but you can tell he ain't a natural presenter especially when they have a guest on.
Remember you should do an alignmet for the new wheel set, and also very important thing- new tires need some time to fit for the alignment and to get rid of some grease on them ;)
I wonder if new engine oil 0w40 for example, new gearbox and differencial oil will bring some improvement. Maybe some friction reducing additives for engine like the liquy Molly ceratec and for gearbox and differencial liquy molly gear protect.... Also maybe a fuel additive to clean the fuel system... Also better fuel 100 octane? All that together maybe half a second?
The only reason to use higher octane is because your engine has higher compression ratios requiring higher octane to reduce detonation. If you use higher octane in a vehicle that doesnt require all you accomplish is to drain your bank account, and ruining your cat converter.
Okay then maybe the other stuff would do some improvment... Definitely interested if that combination works because i will do the same treatment to my car that is also extending the longevity of the gearbox and differencial
Hi Alex, I know this is 7 years old, but if you don't know - lowering your car messes up the roll centre (lowers it), inducing more roll due to the greater moment between centre of gravity and roll centre, this means you get less grip (non linear function of additional load on then tyre and grip) , so you lose a lot of the benefit from the better tyres.
Alex Kersten i believe he meant that your total laps (experience) with the IS keeps improving the more you drive it... either that or the gearbox is knackered? But yeah, the 86 would improve a second or two with non-prius rubber as well, guaranteed. That being said... its a no brainer that for 9 double O this value is unbeatable.
but the whole point is to see if you could tune an IS200 to match a stock GT 86. (read: to see if a budget track car could keep up with an expensive sportscar) Of course the GT 86 has more potential...
Alex Kersten Dorry dude but you're way too inconsistent of a driver for this series to be meaningful in any way. The track bring so tight and technical doesn't help either.
They were such good cars, my mother in law had one when they were still fairly new - used to take any excuse to drive it. Sadly she sold it to my sister in law, who has totally trashed it since - she still has it, and it's still running reliably despite a complete lack of any servicing. It looks a lot like this one, with loads of dents and rust and flaking paint.
Miguel Ribeiro no, wheel size is irrelevant, it's tyre rolling diameter that matters and they have fitted tyres with a bigger sidewall to bring it back to about the same size.
Indeed. But I suspect they filmed this episode at the same time as the first one so would have needed a 2nd set of wheels rather than reusing the stock wheels, plus they need to please the sponsor by being seen to buy parts like wheels and exhausts even though they won't add much 'speed' to the project.
Honestly was expecting Alex to use better tyres than those cheap shit nankangs. Obviously new tyres no matter what brand will have better grip than the tattered old ones, but they would've been better off keeping the existing wheels and spending more for some Bridgestone, Pirelli or Continental rubber.
After watching so many videos on used cars, it seems like Portugal, the country I live, has ridiculously expensive used cars. You would pay around 6000€ for a car like this here. You got it for 900 pounds. Insane value
I keep telling people... the Toyota 1G is a legend in its own right.... super reliable, decent power for the size, versatile ( can be had as a high output true twin cam, a twin turbo, a supercharged, lpg, even a weird carburetted version....) they're fuel efficient too.... not gonna get as much love because it isn't a JZ but still cool in their own way
Great work! I love the detailed comparison. I think I would have overhauled the brakes and done a race alignment before worrying about the suspension, but I can't complain. For the general public, DO NOT test the performance of brand new tires before breaking them in! I almost slid off the road on the first turn once. Found out new tires still have lube on them, that prevents the tire from sticking to the mold when they're manufactured.
So going from winter tyres to summer tyres made it quicker on dry warm Tarmac, who would have guessed (there was a big clue in how the tyres looked and the 'Alp' in the name by the way).
I too have a Lexus is200 which is a great car in its own right. The reason why it's not liked by boy racers is that it is set up to cruise and you have to step on it to get it to hustle. Totally loving your evolution from road to track car Alex Fuckin awesome show thanks !!
Hope you've all enjoyed the series! The car is now available for bids on eBay: bit.ly/is200auction
As many of you have noticed, you have to be pre-approved before you're allowed to bid. This is a precaution we have to take to make sure that no one is scamming the charity. We are going through the process of pre-approving bidders now - thanks for your patience guys, and good luck to all bidders!
Car Throttle great! Savage move!
Following this with great interest. I too have an is200 sport which I also paid £900 for!
Adrian Miles does it have a stripped interior?
No, heated leather is staying right where it is :-)
Adrian Miles well i can't find one for less than 3.5k ffs
Bratsoni I have had it a couple years now. Last week I put 18s on it and decent rubber. Longest I've owned a car so if you make an offer I may sell. Happy to email you details and pictures.
buy it off u for £150
Make sure to add red stripes/brake callipers, they add at least 150 HP EACH
TheMysteriousBagel that's a misconception it's literally only 50hp per corner
TheMysteriousBagel also don't forget to place some nice "GT stripes" each adds 20hp
TheMysteriousBagel added 25 each on mine!
don't forget muffler bearings
*NEON* muffler bearings, thank you
I really like where this is headed! It's nice, simple, and somewhat scientific! Plus you don't make terribly long boring videos we have to sit through to get to the good part.
Looking good. I'm tired watching new car reviews, and I love to see this type of videos. Watching a old good car turning in to a track machine is so much joyful.
Weight reduction has to happen.
You'll LOVE episode 3!
At least 3 episodes confirmed?! Ooooh, boy! :D
the next episode theres already 2 out-_-
LowFD3S where can i find the next episodes ?
Pascal Bartoldus it's not out yet
NFSMW 2005 memories 😍
Oneofmany FR fam
Oneofmany Didn't nfsmw have the is300?
nah the is200
Oneofmany Underground 2 memories for me.
Alex is becoming Blacklist no. 14
The steering wheel is not straight during the straight line.
Chassis geometry will improve overall performance.
such a sick series already
i just wish this series moved quicker
Thomas Mancuso same
but then how would they make $$$$
ᅚ They would get less views per video
It doesn't have to be like a episode a day, just not so spaced out
***** Just see the CGP Grey Channel, he does a video every few months and his videos get tons of views very fast when compared to other channels his size.
Less videos=>higher value in the viewers' mind=>more excitement about a new episode=>more views
At the same time
Less videos=>less stuff to watch=>more time to watch the same number of videos=>more views from people who don't have enough time
Apparently new wheels and tires screw with second gear.
(--___--)
Or just bad driving ;)
Alex Kersten lol. Stuff happens.
Come to America. We has the is300 which came with an lsd. And these engines are bullet proof for the the most part.
Alex Kersten HAH xD
Ashish Patel What did you expect from a 2JZ-GE 4 door? The IS300 are the 4 door Supras they are amazing
And I thought the gearbox was great.
Not only entertaining but also inspirational! Now I know what I need to do when I get a car. New wheels and tyres first thing going on!
I agree that light wheels and semi-slicks help, but one thing: old tyres in this test were for winter season. It increased the difference in lap time in compare to even regular summer tyres :)
great video man. can't wait for the next.
You can always rely on car throttle for breaking news. Winter tires aren't good for performance driving.
I am enjoying this series immensely.
Six cylinder sound track is the best
Wait until you hear it in episode 3!
Alex Kersten MOAR!! AS FAST AS POSSIBRUU!!!!
JoaoPRSousa No V8s are the best
Matt O v10 is the best
JoaoPRSousa OMG, YES!!!!!
I love this series! Cheap trackbuilds ftw!
Car Throttle probably best chanel
lol...."probably"
This series is literally making my life happier.
Ahhh finally! I was waiting for this! Thank you sir, thank you very much!
these is the kind of experiment I came here for! great video!
Very much glossed over the fact the original tyres were winter tyres! Surprising that going from worn winter tyres to lightweight rims and semi slick tyres makes so little difference, lap time wise.
I wish you guys upload twice a week with that much subscribers
favorite series so far !
I wish the episodes came out quicker 😭
Plz
i see you on every initial D video !
I'm a late subsscriber so I get to binge watch every project 😛
alex I reckon you could make a brilliant future top gear host paired with the right people. always enjoy your vids.
Cheers!
Where do I sign the petition if there is one?
hmm maybe we should write to the BBC.......I think Alex reminds me of a younger Jeremy Clarkson not in looks....but in humor and presenting skill....unlike the current trio its to scripted....I love Mr LeBlanc but you can tell he ain't a natural presenter especially when they have a guest on.
Remember you should do an alignmet for the new wheel set, and also very important thing- new tires need some time to fit for the alignment and to get rid of some grease on them ;)
How is the E36? Do you still own it?
God damn I've been waiting all week for this
Can someone tell me what the difference of IS200 and the IS300.
LA of LA main difference is engine size
Is on the engine
JDMSteven whats the engine on the 200 and the 300?
google.com
LA of LA both are i6 but is300 comes with 2jz whereas is200 not but I can't tell you exactly what sits under the hood of is200 sorry :/
cant wait for the new episode !!!!
I feel that your twisted seatbelt is triggering my OCD
Waited a long time for this
You should Turbo the Lexus IS200 and test it again.
I hav been waitin for this for sooo long!
I wonder if new engine oil 0w40 for example, new gearbox and differencial oil will bring some improvement. Maybe some friction reducing additives for engine like the liquy Molly ceratec and for gearbox and differencial liquy molly gear protect....
Also maybe a fuel additive to clean the fuel system...
Also better fuel 100 octane?
All that together maybe half a second?
Higher octane fuel won't help as I doubt the factory ECU is tuned to make use of it.
The only reason to use higher octane is because your engine has higher compression ratios requiring higher octane to reduce detonation. If you use higher octane in a vehicle that doesnt require all you accomplish is to drain your bank account, and ruining your cat converter.
Okay then maybe the other stuff would do some improvment... Definitely interested if that combination works because i will do the same treatment to my car that is also extending the longevity of the gearbox and differencial
all the thing you said won't chage a thing
but it can't hurt to have some good oil and fluid overall!
*We need more and we need it now*
You better change the brakes too!
That's happening
Hi Alex, I know this is 7 years old, but if you don't know - lowering your car messes up the roll centre (lowers it), inducing more roll due to the greater moment between centre of gravity and roll centre, this means you get less grip (non linear function of additional load on then tyre and grip) , so you lose a lot of the benefit from the better tyres.
Remove back seats and passenger spare tire anything that is dead weight and do some maintanence to the engiene and job done
We've done all this and a LOT more for episode 3!
Can't wait for the next one, looks like a lot of fun.
I'm just happy to hear Alexs' voice again. the last dude was a no.
pretty good idea for content. really enjoying it.
Why don't you weigh the old wheels, and then work out the difference, that might have been interesting.
you improved by the tires getting warmer and warmer, ignoring the miss shifting
just my two cents
Correct me if am wrong but didn't the IS 200 come with a 2jz engine stock?
The Orange Ninja the is200 has the 1g-fe, the is300 has the 2jz
cvan 47 thanks for the clarification.
Good communication :)
whats the difference between those 2?
100
i really like the comparison videos, keep on doing that!
Sponsored by eBay! O_o
NELKEL JDM VLOGS you should do this challenge mate
I am really enjoying this series, please move along at a quicker pace
Why is still the interior in it?
Nikita Alyani next ep
Can't wait for the next video in this series!
This is SOOO much better than Top Gear with Matt LeRetard.
OTT-OTT 1 is it FUCK
Top Gear is still going?
Craylex no it's not
Gabriel Hakes No it is
Anyone who knows anything about cars hates this channel
Car Throttle>Top Gear
don't change the topic, where is Phil??
lovely series
make it a track car in time to come
Not fair. You should take 3 laps with the GT86 and I bet you would improve it's time as well
I did 3 laps (and more) in episode 1. That time was the fastest I could get it
Alex Kersten i believe he meant that your total laps (experience) with the IS keeps improving the more you drive it... either that or the gearbox is knackered? But yeah, the 86 would improve a second or two with non-prius rubber as well, guaranteed. That being said... its a no brainer that for 9 double O this value is unbeatable.
but the whole point is to see if you could tune an IS200 to match a stock GT 86. (read: to see if a budget track car could keep up with an expensive sportscar) Of course the GT 86 has more potential...
Oh, ok then. Wasn't aware.
Alex Kersten Dorry dude but you're way too inconsistent of a driver for this series to be meaningful in any way. The track bring so tight and technical doesn't help either.
They were such good cars, my mother in law had one when they were still fairly new - used to take any excuse to drive it. Sadly she sold it to my sister in law, who has totally trashed it since - she still has it, and it's still running reliably despite a complete lack of any servicing. It looks a lot like this one, with loads of dents and rust and flaking paint.
Do a weight reduction, that is the best way to shave of a few secs 🙌🏼
+Daniel Veres Wait for the next episode!
Wow the part showing him having to steer less on new tyres actually blew me away!
It would've been 1.5 seconds faster if you didn't have the sweatshirt on the 2nd time.
love this channel and this series keep it up
Fitting smaller wheels, increases the torque at the wheels, so you've virtually given it a bit more power too.
I was wondering why they downsized. How do smaller wheels affect handling?
Miguel Ribeiro no, wheel size is irrelevant, it's tyre rolling diameter that matters and they have fitted tyres with a bigger sidewall to bring it back to about the same size.
yeah,
Although I don't think the sidewall looks that much different on both tyres. does he say the old size in the video? I didn't pay attention
Car Throttle is the new Top Gear
fit an antilag
gonna need a turbo first
KAL 1 you need turbo first
WiniPlays actually, no, you don't. without a turbo it serves no purpose though, but in vw world there are some who program antilag on non turbo vr6s.
*turbo then antilag
Fuck turbo. Centrifugal supercharger is what this needs 😉
ive been waiting for this since long
old wheels are better looking though ! shoulda put a good set of tyres on the 17s instead
We are going for speed, not bling-bling.
17" wheels with good tyres would perform better as well !!
Indeed. But I suspect they filmed this episode at the same time as the first one so would have needed a 2nd set of wheels rather than reusing the stock wheels, plus they need to please the sponsor by being seen to buy parts like wheels and exhausts even though they won't add much 'speed' to the project.
H31995 the new wheels are lighter though, and i think they are better looking too but thats just a matter of personal preference
It added almost a second, so what are you talking about?
I waited so long for the next Video. I love it I just wish it wouldnt take so long
Alteza is for drifting
First gen lexus IS is same as Toyota Alteza
same car. Toyota Altezza = Lexus IS series
actually the toyota is way lighter as it doesnt have as much luxury crap weighing it down.
its only 250lbs lighter
xartpant yamaha beams 3s ftw!
Those team dynamics wheels are great super strong and decently light. I've got 5 sets for my car.
Honestly was expecting Alex to use better tyres than those cheap shit nankangs. Obviously new tyres no matter what brand will have better grip than the tattered old ones, but they would've been better off keeping the existing wheels and spending more for some Bridgestone, Pirelli or Continental rubber.
Those are not regular tires, ns2r's will outperform every other 'normal' summer tire
finally, a project that doesn't kill the car
16 inch, really?
JoraForever yep, cheaper tyres, less weight.
Noob. Smaller wheels = less weight = faster. Big wheels are simply retarded, only fools who want shiny bling-bling like them.
JoraForever the only reason you should have larger rims is for larger brakes, otherwise you are hurting performance
Cheaper :P
+Mgo well I mean they're not retarded for luxury cars since they improve ride quality, but for a sports car liek this they are dumb.
I'm actually really intrigued by this series even though it's sponsored.
After watching so many videos on used cars, it seems like Portugal, the country I live, has ridiculously expensive used cars. You would pay around 6000€ for a car like this here. You got it for 900 pounds. Insane value
Yea, I would miss all those shifts too if the stick were on my left.
I keep telling people... the Toyota 1G is a legend in its own right.... super reliable, decent power for the size, versatile ( can be had as a high output true twin cam, a twin turbo, a supercharged, lpg, even a weird carburetted version....) they're fuel efficient too.... not gonna get as much love because it isn't a JZ but still cool in their own way
Yes mighty car mods.
Official universally accepted shoe test!
quality fella can't wait for next one
I'm considering buying those Nankangs as well at some point. Good to hear some positive stuff!
You definitely need to swat 3GSE into that IS200. It's gonna be amazing.
Yes, i waited it for so long!
One thing I'd recommend is new Anti-Roll Bars. Help keep the car from rolling to far. Help corner flat, and helps it under breaking
Great work! I love the detailed comparison. I think I would have overhauled the brakes and done a race alignment before worrying about the suspension, but I can't complain. For the general public, DO NOT test the performance of brand new tires before breaking them in! I almost slid off the road on the first turn once. Found out new tires still have lube on them, that prevents the tire from sticking to the mold when they're manufactured.
so exited for episode 3 cant wait!!! When does it come out on youtube?
Comes in 2 Wednesdays from now
Thanks for the answer
Finally episode 2 is out
This is fun. Love videos like this.
Wow, what a coincidence! Most of the people at my local car meets are sponsored by Ebay as well!
New tyres get better after a few days of driving in my experience
HELL YEAH!! I AM SOOOOOO EXITED!!!
This is why you get an automatic, no room for mistakes perfect shifting every time
My dad has an is200 sport, I love it
I LOVE this series!!!
those rims looks awesome !!! i want these
That's a funky looking wheel lock
Back to waiting 7 centuries for the next episode now.
I love you guys. Keep it up!
So going from winter tyres to summer tyres made it quicker on dry warm Tarmac, who would have guessed (there was a big clue in how the tyres looked and the 'Alp' in the name by the way).
OOHHH THE GAP IS SO BAAAD
I too have a Lexus is200 which is a great car in its own
right. The reason why it's not liked by boy racers is that it
is set up to cruise and you have to step on it to get it to
hustle.
Totally loving your evolution from road to track car Alex
Fuckin awesome show thanks !!
Cheers Evan. Track day with it yesterday (stripped interior, coilovers + exhaust) was insane. Totally transformed the car. And no mis-shifts! :D