Thank you for talking about this topic. I am also eating normal, not derpiving myself of anything, but still feel the need to overeat just to feel "free" of the eating disorder. I thought I was the only one! It is really reassuring to know that someone has gone through the same thing and got cured! Thank you for your advice.
Actually, it's better now! I think we just need to give our bodies time to learn that there will be no restriction any more. But when I did overeat it would look more like getting 5 servings of dessert to the point of feeling almost sick.
Hey Ksenia🌞 I feel absolutely the sameee! Since a few weeks/months I overeat very often although I’m definitely not in extreme hunger anymore. I allow my self everything, not starving, not depriving, however as you also described: often I feel I have to overeat just to feel free! How are you doing meanwhile? I would love to hear from you!❤️
@@lindahilz happy to hear you're on the right track! Keep going, it's all part of the process :) I think I can safely say that I'm completely ED-free now! I'm no longer obsessed with chips, ice cream, chocolate, and cake like I used to be! I eat mostly normal nutritious meals, based on what I feel like that day, I don't label foods good or bad - everything is great in moderation! I'm really happy I chose recovery!
Yes! It is happening to me, I need to feel uncomfortably full to feel SAFE, the slighest idea of eating less stresses me out so much! And I haven´t ever been underweight, I was allways overweight or in a normal weight range, but in the DIETING-BINGING CIRCLE, losing and gaining the same 20-30lbs with a bodyweight difference of even 55lbs for the past over 10 years. I've been so dissordered and so alone in this, because no one would take this seriously for not being underweight. Doing my research to cure myself from this I found your channel and it is really helping! Using mantras to change fearful thoughts is therapy! Thank you so much for this!
This really is meaningful to me. I was an orphan, and malnourished at a young age. When I was adopted, and for the rest of my life, I still feel like there will not be enough food or it will be taken from me. I started binge eating at 5 years old.😔To try to eat so much as possible in case it was taken away. I have struggled with this and now I am 44 years old. Thank you for your videos. I am relearning how to eat, and do things that are what I want for my body, to bring some healing and a sense of peace.
This is so true. The animal part of our brain is trying so hard to protect us from those bad feelings of deprivation. It then turns into a bad habit and repetition where even if we are not deprived, we are still programmed to keep protecting ourselves from starvation. It's such a viscous cycle and you're so right that eating regularly gets us out of that.
listen to ego:lose this weight listen to intuition:dont care if you gain weight, just ask what do you need from me? I will do anything unconditionally and let you have unconditional permission to eat
This video is awesome! I'm recovering from BED and can totally relate to this. I've accepted the fact that I'll gain fat. I've allowed myself to eat what I want when I want. And have been practicing eating intuitively, but was still feeling this subtle anxiety of being deprived even after finishing a relatively large meal. Thanks for the tip and helping me understand the source of this anxiety.
wat i learned from this is that i told my body that i'm gonna eat whenver time doesn't matter even at 2am if i am hungry and this has helped me a lot mentally and my overeating disorder. now i am 5'6" 158lbs just 3 pounds ow lol
'ow' compared to what? I'm 5'7" - 158lbs and 13% body fat, so definitely not "overweight". Stating your weight and height here is completely irresponsible and potentially triggering. Use your brain.
I have been recovering or in quasirecovering for almost a year now, and i have been in this state before in my life aswell. This is exactly my problem and i have a feeling that this might be the key to full recovery for me. This feeling of having to stuff myself and respond to EVERY SINGLE craving or else I feel super deprived and panicky (and might binge at a later time) is very strong in me. Even though I never was very under weight or superrestrictive i my past. I just think my brain and my genes respond VERY badly to any type of restriction. Trying to be vegan left me skinny but also feeling SUPER deprived, and that is what I pay for now in over eating and feeling uncomfortable in my body. I will definitely try to implement these thoughts in trying to get my poor brain to calm down.
Hi Elisa. I found your channel a few days ago and have been bingeing on your videos. As soon as I watched the first one, I knew I was ready to fully commit to recovery. Thank you for sharing your journey and what real recovery looks like. Your videos are such a gift!
Not acting on the urges will break a habit. At some point urges won’t arise anymore. I too fell into compulsive overeating and sometimes emotional eating after recovering from binge eating & bulimia. I only realised recently. I thought I was healed as I did not binge & purge anymore (since summer 2016). But I still have been overeating for the past 4.5 yrs. I’ve learned a lot in books like: *Brain Over Binge, Rewire Your Brain* or in the podcast by *Cookie Rosenblum*.
This came on the perfect time! Thank you so much... I was getting use to say.. Maria, is ok to over eat this is part of recovery. But since already 2 month Im physically perfect and happy again, I'm pretty secure about my recovery and facing fears.. And now I fell I can take a step forward and come to this next stage towards my healing process. I'm also sure that all this time it took for me was exactly what was needed to gain mentally this new willing power and motivation... Everyone has a time. Thank you for your post and support so firmly the ED recoveru community. Love Maria
Thank you!! This is the missing link for me!! It connects the Brain over Binge approach with the “all in unrestricted eating.” For some people the “feast eating” naturally subsided but for others it can become this other bad habit, same with over eating at night. Thank you
I love your approach so so much. You're so consequent, no tiny little hidden restrictions anywhere! That's so awesome and it gives me hope, that true recovery is possible. Not like meal plan and eating structure approaches, which I learned in a hospital and tried to follow for a long time. It just feels like every other restrictive diet I did im my past and I can only stick to it if I put a lot of discipline into it. And I'm sure that those approaches can never truely heal an eating disorder. I watched many of your vids and you're the first person talking about healing eating disorder where I can agree 100%, like every single word you say, I'm like “yes!!“. I felt that I can only heal without any restriction, but I couldn't overcome the fear of getting very big from it. I will try hard to trust, that it will work. I started 2 days ago and of course I ate a lot, but I'm already thinking so much less about food. This very addictive thoughts are already, in only two days so much smaller. They just made my head going crazy, for years and years. I'm telling myself often im a mantra style that I can eat whatever, whenever and however much I want, FOREVER. I ordered your book as well and I'm looking forward to understand the approach deeper. Thank you so much for spreading your message and all the info you're giving us (ex-) food addicts. Much love, Marina
Yes, I have to stuff myself because of past trauma of feeling constantly deprived. Thank you for sharing this, I feel very similar and it helps, when you put it into words like this. You nailed it for me. Thank you!
wuO! That was incredible real! I could not relate more with you, I felt that you said everything that I felt inside but could not put into actual words. ED is so so big and recovering from it is not easy. It takes time and love and self-respect. HUGE thanks for your videos, they are very eye opening
From what you're saying, in my non vomitive bulimia journey I do everything and think everything the same way you do. At this point of writing I'm at the half of the video so I don't know if you're going to mention it but: there is someone who said bingeing becomes a habit. I try not to forget my eating disorder but I try to deal with it like it is some bad habit, and god knows that bad habits aren't disease and can be changed. In the end it's simply our body and brain that got hurt, and sometimes we cannot help it
okay you said everything in the rest of the video sorry :') I am glad you share your evolution. It means a lot to me. It might to a lot of other people out there.
Unfortunately, even before the eating disorder, I kinda struggled with thoughts of future deprivation. I felt like I had to save nice things I liked (food, clothes, body products, notebooks, other stuff) and not use them now in case I need them in the future. I'm afraid. I'm still afraid. Working on it now as I'm in recovery (yet again) from the eating disorder but still feel stuck. Some days I feel more abundance and like I can have/do anything but in essence I'm still stuck, often depressed, demotivated and afraid. And yes I do overeat sometimes, either out of anxiety or simply because I'm enjoying it and/or want to avoid doing something else 😶
I know what you mean by overeating so that you will not eat again later. I think it started from my grand parent. She kept food around her at all times and even ate sometimes right after dinner because she didn't know when her next meal would be. So crazy how our mind does this to us.
It is so hard. Because the problem is that the main focus is still on food sadly. As you probably know it is not easy to build the other areas of life that would "consume" me more tha old habits and food. It is sad. BUT what you're sayig here is so true. Thank you, will defiinitely look at that this way :) I've just found you and your account and am happy I did. Will dig into your videos ;)
Thanks a lot for this video!! I feel exactly the same, like I need to eat so much because deep inside my brain doesn't trust me. As if I was just waiting to start restriction all over again.
Hi! I am a bit confused with this post. Is it necessary to train the brain or will it solve itself after a while? The same thing you explain happens to me, however, I tried to train my brain and my body takes it as a restriction, since after eating and feeling satisfied, my brain keeps thinking about what I left on the plate, this generates a lot of anxiety. I don't know if I'm really going through this, or if it's still extreme hunger... The truth is that I would like to continue doing it so that my body continues to feel safe, but with this post I'm hesitating, I don't know if I should necessarily train my mind or this will normalize naturally during recovery. I have been recovering for 7 months, my period came back 2 months ago and I had it regularly in both. I'm a bit worried after reading your post :(.
I believe you're likely experiencing extreme hunger. It's completely normal and a part of recovery. Just let yourself eat without restricting and it will pass.
This one‘s a really difficult topic for me. I had a slight relapse lately after more than a year of honest recovery (I’m not even sure if it was an actual relapse, I just tried to eat healthier and apparently my body didn’t like it) which brought me back to feeling hungrier and exhausted again. I’m not sure whether what I’m dealing with now is extreme hunger or only a slight fear of restricting again. All I know is that stopping to eat until feeling overly full makes me very anxious and triggers eating disorder thoughts. Watching this video makes me feel shameful and insecure about the amounts I’m eating and I don’t know how to go on... Can anyone relate or give me advice?
I can so relate! ANyone any tips on how to stop when full without being angry at yourself for wanting to overeat or being afraid you will allways have to stop yourself from overeating and it will never just come naturally? I am so afraid I will allways have to consciously stop myself... my mom (who never had an ED) just stops when she is full... i just want to be able to do that as well..
thanks so much for this video! i just got you in my live and im listen to all your videos thanks it is possible to read the article you are mentioning in this video?
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Thank you for talking about this topic. I am also eating normal, not derpiving myself of anything, but still feel the need to overeat just to feel "free" of the eating disorder. I thought I was the only one! It is really reassuring to know that someone has gone through the same thing and got cured! Thank you for your advice.
KseniaCreatives do you fins yourself waking almost evry middle of the night just to eat fruits or bread and peanut butter like 1 or 2 or 3am?
Actually, it's better now! I think we just need to give our bodies time to learn that there will be no restriction any more. But when I did overeat it would look more like getting 5 servings of dessert to the point of feeling almost sick.
Hey Ksenia🌞 I feel absolutely the sameee! Since a few weeks/months I overeat very often although I’m definitely not in extreme hunger anymore. I allow my self everything, not starving, not depriving, however as you also described: often I feel I have to overeat just to feel free! How are you doing meanwhile? I would love to hear from you!❤️
@@lindahilz happy to hear you're on the right track! Keep going, it's all part of the process :) I think I can safely say that I'm completely ED-free now! I'm no longer obsessed with chips, ice cream, chocolate, and cake like I used to be! I eat mostly normal nutritious meals, based on what I feel like that day, I don't label foods good or bad - everything is great in moderation! I'm really happy I chose recovery!
Hi Ksenia..we have the same name, I don't see that often 🙂 how are you feeling now, with food and life in general?
Yes! It is happening to me, I need to feel uncomfortably full to feel SAFE, the slighest idea of eating less stresses me out so much! And I haven´t ever been underweight, I was allways overweight or in a normal weight range, but in the DIETING-BINGING CIRCLE, losing and gaining the same 20-30lbs with a bodyweight difference of even 55lbs for the past over 10 years.
I've been so dissordered and so alone in this, because no one would take this seriously for not being underweight. Doing my research to cure myself from this I found your channel and it is really helping!
Using mantras to change fearful thoughts is therapy! Thank you so much for this!
This really is meaningful to me. I was an orphan, and malnourished at a young age. When I was adopted, and for the rest of my life, I still feel like there will not be enough food or it will be taken from me. I started binge eating at 5 years old.😔To try to eat so much as possible in case it was taken away. I have struggled with this and now I am 44 years old. Thank you for your videos. I am relearning how to eat, and do things that are what I want for my body, to bring some healing and a sense of peace.
This is so true. The animal part of our brain is trying so hard to protect us from those bad feelings of deprivation. It then turns into a bad habit and repetition where even if we are not deprived, we are still programmed to keep protecting ourselves from starvation. It's such a viscous cycle and you're so right that eating regularly gets us out of that.
listen to ego:lose this weight
listen to intuition:dont care if you gain weight, just ask what do you need from me? I will do anything unconditionally and let you have unconditional permission to eat
This video is awesome! I'm recovering from BED and can totally relate to this. I've accepted the fact that I'll gain fat. I've allowed myself to eat what I want when I want. And have been practicing eating intuitively, but was still feeling this subtle anxiety of being deprived even after finishing a relatively large meal. Thanks for the tip and helping me understand the source of this anxiety.
wat i learned from this is that i told my body that i'm gonna eat whenver time doesn't matter even at 2am if i am hungry and this has helped me a lot mentally and my overeating disorder. now i am 5'6" 158lbs just 3 pounds ow lol
'ow' compared to what?
I'm 5'7" - 158lbs and 13% body fat, so definitely not "overweight".
Stating your weight and height here is completely irresponsible and potentially triggering. Use your brain.
I have been recovering or in quasirecovering for almost a year now, and i have been in this state before in my life aswell. This is exactly my problem and i have a feeling that this might be the key to full recovery for me. This feeling of having to stuff myself and respond to EVERY SINGLE craving or else I feel super deprived and panicky (and might binge at a later time) is very strong in me. Even though I never was very under weight or superrestrictive i my past. I just think my brain and my genes respond VERY badly to any type of restriction. Trying to be vegan left me skinny but also feeling SUPER deprived, and that is what I pay for now in over eating and feeling uncomfortable in my body.
I will definitely try to implement these thoughts in trying to get my poor brain to calm down.
Hi Elisa. I found your channel a few days ago and have been bingeing on your videos. As soon as I watched the first one, I knew I was ready to fully commit to recovery. Thank you for sharing your journey and what real recovery looks like. Your videos are such a gift!
Not acting on the urges will break a habit. At some point urges won’t arise anymore. I too fell into compulsive overeating and sometimes emotional eating after recovering from binge eating & bulimia. I only realised recently. I thought I was healed as I did not binge & purge anymore (since summer 2016). But I still have been overeating for the past 4.5 yrs. I’ve learned a lot in books like: *Brain Over Binge, Rewire Your Brain* or in the podcast by *Cookie Rosenblum*.
This came on the perfect time! Thank you so much... I was getting use to say.. Maria, is ok to over eat this is part of recovery. But since already 2 month Im physically perfect and happy again, I'm pretty secure about my recovery and facing fears.. And now I fell I can take a step forward and come to this next stage towards my healing process. I'm also sure that all this time it took for me was exactly what was needed to gain mentally this new willing power and motivation... Everyone has a time. Thank you for your post and support so firmly the ED recoveru community. Love Maria
Hi! thank you! im glad it helped and find that you are going through something similar! let me know how it goes! :)
Thank you!! This is the missing link for me!! It connects the Brain over Binge approach with the “all in unrestricted eating.” For some people the “feast eating” naturally subsided but for others it can become this other bad habit, same with over eating at night. Thank you
I love your approach so so much. You're so consequent, no tiny little hidden restrictions anywhere! That's so awesome and it gives me hope, that true recovery is possible. Not like meal plan and eating structure approaches, which I learned in a hospital and tried to follow for a long time. It just feels like every other restrictive diet I did im my past and I can only stick to it if I put a lot of discipline into it. And I'm sure that those approaches can never truely heal an eating disorder. I watched many of your vids and you're the first person talking about healing eating disorder where I can agree 100%, like every single word you say, I'm like “yes!!“.
I felt that I can only heal without any restriction, but I couldn't overcome the fear of getting very big from it. I will try hard to trust, that it will work. I started 2 days ago and of course I ate a lot, but I'm already thinking so much less about food. This very addictive thoughts are already, in only two days so much smaller. They just made my head going crazy, for years and years.
I'm telling myself often im a mantra style that I can eat whatever, whenever and however much I want, FOREVER.
I ordered your book as well and I'm looking forward to understand the approach deeper.
Thank you so much for spreading your message and all the info you're giving us (ex-) food addicts.
Much love,
Marina
Yes, I have to stuff myself because of past trauma of feeling constantly deprived. Thank you for sharing this, I feel very similar and it helps, when you put it into words like this. You nailed it for me. Thank you!
wuO! That was incredible real! I could not relate more with you, I felt that you said everything that I felt inside but could not put into actual words. ED is so so big and recovering from it is not easy. It takes time and love and self-respect. HUGE thanks for your videos, they are very eye opening
From what you're saying, in my non vomitive bulimia journey I do everything and think everything the same way you do. At this point of writing I'm at the half of the video so I don't know if you're going to mention it but: there is someone who said bingeing becomes a habit. I try not to forget my eating disorder but I try to deal with it like it is some bad habit, and god knows that bad habits aren't disease and can be changed. In the end it's simply our body and brain that got hurt, and sometimes we cannot help it
okay you said everything in the rest of the video sorry :') I am glad you share your evolution. It means a lot to me. It might to a lot of other people out there.
Two words: thank you.
Unfortunately, even before the eating disorder, I kinda struggled with thoughts of future deprivation. I felt like I had to save nice things I liked (food, clothes, body products, notebooks, other stuff) and not use them now in case I need them in the future. I'm afraid. I'm still afraid. Working on it now as I'm in recovery (yet again) from the eating disorder but still feel stuck. Some days I feel more abundance and like I can have/do anything but in essence I'm still stuck, often depressed, demotivated and afraid. And yes I do overeat sometimes, either out of anxiety or simply because I'm enjoying it and/or want to avoid doing something else 😶
I know what you mean by overeating so that you will not eat again later. I think it started from my grand parent. She kept food around her at all times and even ate sometimes right after dinner because she didn't know when her next meal would be. So crazy how our mind does this to us.
More people need to talk about this!! Thank you!! I wonder what Tabitha Farrar thinks about this.
Dialogue along with body cues. True listening to vibration.
Thank you! I am finally starting to understand my eating disorder
I wish Tabitha would do episode on this topic
It is so hard. Because the problem is that the main focus is still on food sadly. As you probably know it is not easy to build the other areas of life that would "consume" me more tha old habits and food. It is sad. BUT what you're sayig here is so true. Thank you, will defiinitely look at that this way :)
I've just found you and your account and am happy I did. Will dig into your videos ;)
Thanks a lot for this video!! I feel exactly the same, like I need to eat so much because deep inside my brain doesn't trust me. As if I was just waiting to start restriction all over again.
Hi! I am a bit confused with this post. Is it necessary to train the brain or will it solve itself after a while? The same thing you explain happens to me, however, I tried to train my brain and my body takes it as a restriction, since after eating and feeling satisfied, my brain keeps thinking about what I left on the plate, this generates a lot of anxiety. I don't know if I'm really going through this, or if it's still extreme hunger... The truth is that I would like to continue doing it so that my body continues to feel safe, but with this post I'm hesitating, I don't know if I should necessarily train my mind or this will normalize naturally during recovery. I have been recovering for 7 months, my period came back 2 months ago and I had it regularly in both. I'm a bit worried after reading your post :(.
So I have been in recovery for two weeks and have binged every night. That isn't overeating? I feel like I have BED or something is wrong
I believe you're likely experiencing extreme hunger. It's completely normal and a part of recovery. Just let yourself eat without restricting and it will pass.
This one‘s a really difficult topic for me. I had a slight relapse lately after more than a year of honest recovery (I’m not even sure if it was an actual relapse, I just tried to eat healthier and apparently my body didn’t like it) which brought me back to feeling hungrier and exhausted again. I’m not sure whether what I’m dealing with now is extreme hunger or only a slight fear of restricting again. All I know is that stopping to eat until feeling overly full makes me very anxious and triggers eating disorder thoughts. Watching this video makes me feel shameful and insecure about the amounts I’m eating and I don’t know how to go on... Can anyone relate or give me advice?
I can so relate! ANyone any tips on how to stop when full without being angry at yourself for wanting to overeat or being afraid you will allways have to stop yourself from overeating and it will never just come naturally? I am so afraid I will allways have to consciously stop myself... my mom (who never had an ED) just stops when she is full... i just want to be able to do that as well..
I can really relate to what you are saying
Thank you, thank you, thank you! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ You literally saved me. I can't thank you enough.
thanks so much for this video! i just got you in my live and im listen to all your videos thanks it is possible to read the article you are mentioning in this video?
Thank you so much! I love your videos :) You are helping me so much xx
How many times did you need to recovery?
Very very interesting! Thank you! I needed this...
I was super obese before my bulimia . Does that mean i will keep gaining weight until i become obese again? Plz tell me
I wasnt super underweight i was at bmi 17.5 so will i become obese 😭😭😭?
I gained so much weight now !
How are you now?
Your videos are sooo helpful, thank you so much❤
Helped me so much!!! Thank youuu
so true...🌸🌸💝💝thanks a lot
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It's the same talk on her link above. Don't waste your time.