Hamish de Bretton Gordon - Drip Feeding Munitions and Supplies Risks a Slow Destruction of Ukraine.
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Hamish de Bretton-Gordon OBE is Director of DBG Defence. He is a senior executive with a military, humanitarian, charity and commercial experience. Hamish is a world leading authority on chemical weapons and humanitarian support in Syria, and a vocal advocate for Ukrainian victory.
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CHAPTERS:
00:01:57 Trump and Vance have been advocates for reducing US military support to Ukraine.
00:03:42 Long range precision missiles like Storm Shadow are having a real impact.
00:05:18 European NATO countries really need to take up the heavy lifting before November.
00:08:32 The fact Ukraine can't strike into Russia to hit its airfields and supply lines is ridiculous.
00:09:49 If Ukraine is unshackled it will have a severe effect on Russian ability strike Ukraine.
00:13:52 We need to do all we can to deter Russia rather than give them excuse to crack on.
00:16:32 The reason Ukraine has suffered so much is because Russia has had air superiority.
00:23:48 We need to accelerate innovation and agility otherwise we won’t deter the Russians.
00:27:20 The Prohibition of Chemicals details 3,200 uses of Chemical Weapons by Russia.
00:28:37 Assad is still in power because he used chemical weapons on his own population.
00:32:26 If we get Ukraine wrong stuff people are worrying about could become irrelevant.
00:35:03 The American election in November is a rallying call to the rest of Europe and NATO.
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A DISGRACE for f...k sake!.im so frustrated,pissed and ashamed of our govs..its so ABSURD,bizarre and f..ed up!.stay strong Ukraine!.sorry for the cowards in Washington and Berlin..🇺🇦💯👍❤️
agree, it really makes sick...
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My words also. What the hell is the matter with them.😡
I am sick also for your comment..
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Hi Jonathan. Many congratulations and thank you for all your amazing work. Please take this mandate forward and continue to let our friends in Ukraine know that British people support them wholeheartedly. Slava Ukraini!
Hear hear!
Heroyam slava!
Nothing new with Jonathan .. nothing.. it's just talk talk talk
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@@pragmatist165" just talk talk talk"
And your contribution to the war effort is ...???
What did you do in the war daddy?
I just sat on the sidelines and sniped at those who made an effort.
Thank you for your coverage and insights
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I could listen to Hamish all day long. He makes perfect sense. Why oh why can’t our European leaders see that we are sleepwalking into a bigger confrontation with Russia in the long run if we don’t support Ukraine to WIN now?
Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦
They seem to prefere living behind their "ever so" pink looking glases 🤢
Then we would sleep walk into a bigger confrontation in the short run instead.
Thanks Jonathan for your great reporting and interviews. They need to get some balls and stop Putin no matter how!😡
Well done Jonathan, one of the best channels with incredible range of guests with so much knowledge and expertise on Ukraine/Russia,congratulations. 🎉🎉🎉
Fabulous informed guest. One of my favourites. Could Hamish de Bretton Gordon contact Defence Minister Blair of Canada directly about his gas mask initiative? I have written to him in the past about the need for Canada to step up their help for Ukraine. Trudeau appears to be disinterested, but there is a reported tension between the two, as Blair wants more done. The Premiers of our Provinces have recently tried to pressure Trudeau to commit to our 2% NATO contribution within a shorter time than the current position. Many Canadian power figures are weak kneed about lethal support, which is why the gas mask initiative seems such a good fit for Canada.
Great discussion Jonathan and Hamish! Slava Ukraini!
Hamish! I love his work on the Telegraph's Ukraine podcast (and I'm not usually a telegraph reader, especially their opinion page).
Congratulations on 100k subs Jonathan. Richly deserved and 10 times more.
He deserves a million subscribers
Love hearing Hamish on Ukraine the Latest. Glad he's here too! Very grounded person, and a voice of reason in these trying times.
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100k subs! Yay, Jonathon! 🇺🇦
Great interview
Thank you, Jonathan and Hamish de Bretton-Gordon, for this insightful conversation.
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100K subscribers 👍 Trump is looking weaker every day, so don't give up on US yet. Thank you, Jonathan. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
Hopefully there are more people in the US with common sense and intelligence than not. But what’s happening in US politics right now is terrifying 😮
T-Rump or no T-Rump, the world must get used to the idea that the US is not a reliable ally.
Voter turnout will decide this election, so if you are an american, please make sure to vote and if you can volunteer to help increase voter turnout
100K. Congratulations. I remember watching your very first discussion (with whom? I can’t remember) and became your admirer then and there.
Thank you, Jonathan and Hamish de Bretton Gordon. I wish this interview could be seen by Kamala Harris as and outgoing President Biden. Hamish has experience and such a sensible approach backed up with current knowledge. Administrations can be so foolish by not looking ahead at the consequences of inaction.
Giving war crimes a name - War Crimes - and doing nothing beyond that is insane! The enemy laughs at the wagging tongues and pointing of fingers! 🤷♀️
yes insane AND eventually self destructive actually bcuz u appear entirely impotent!
Please talk about the European proposals in the recent NATO summit, such as Poland's. They were blocked by the USA and Germany.
Another excellent discussion. 🇺🇦
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Congrats on the 100k
Congrats with 100K subscribers. Well done and keep up the good work. Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦
Heroyam slava! 💙💛💙💛
100K 🥳 Jonathan
Heroyam Slava! 🇺🇦
Glory to All of the Heroes of Ukraine ..& Thanks Johnathan and co. ,.. 💙💛💙
Part of the UK’s problem from a defense perspective is that it has very little manufacturing capacity. And thanks to Brexit importing and exporting stuff to the UK is insanely time-consuming & expensive.
There's quite a lot of small scale specialist manufacturing going on in the UK. I think we could leverage some of this when it comes to manufacturing small scale specialist hardware, such as surveillance equipment and specialist armour, drones etc.
We do have a handful of defence manufacturers who have contracts to supply NATO forces, such as BAE systems & Avon protection to name a couple.
Congrats Jonathan!.lets go to 200k now👍😃
Another high quality guest. Congratulations on100K subscribers! 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
🎉 thank you!🙏
This was a really good one. thanks so much for what you do by bringing the best interviews to us. I look for them all the time, and utube knows it so they pop up right away. thanks, DM
Something that no one has mentioned, the dilly dallying by the US will be seen by the other members of NATO as an indication that they can not be relied on. Making home designed and built equipment and munitions a preferable choice regardless of how much better the US equipment may be. European aircraft rather than US, likewise air defence systems. So less trade for US contractors and more for sales for European companies. Ergo US products become more expensive while European products become cheaper due to larger orders.
That is already going on. The gears are turning slowly, of course (what else)...but this is being discussed for a while now. No one here is particularly happy about it (except maybe the people who are going to make money from it), but it's being assumed as a given (pretty much), that we can't rely on the US to protect us anymore.
@@raraavis7782 Not so much 'to protect us' as being 'reliable'
Why are you talking about specific measures to fix the problem? This channel is all about the establishment wringing it's hands and saying how complicated doing anything about it is.
You really should be thinking this way. The US will be stepping out of European focus and moving to pacific focus. This is going to happen. If you don’t get your defense industrial base up and running it’s a realistic possibility you will be steamed rolled. So yes, you do need to be thinking this way.
“If in 10 years, all American troops stationed in Europe for national defense purposes have not been returned to the United States,” he wrote of NATO in 1951, “then this whole project will have failed.” Dwight D Eisenhower 1951
The cowardice of these "leaders" is mind-boggling. Friedrikson and Kallas put them all to shame.
wonderful interview! Nothing but the best ppl you always find! Congrats on your 100K, so well deserved, and then some!!!!
Really warmed to the idea of drone experts in every county, or whatever that could be. It would appeal to men and women of all ages. I keep hearing how drones are the future warfare.
Infuriating
Congratulations Jonathan on 100k subs)) Well deserved.
Now that Biden has withdrawn, with Harris the likely nominee, there is renewed enthusiasm for the democratic party and for Harris. Trump and his campaign are panicking. Where as before it sure looked like trump was going to be president again, not quite so fast now. Trump and Harris are tied in polls (and Harris is not really as well known ... yet). I do think it is likely that Harris will win.
Something to take note of - Harris's national security advisor, Phil Gordon, is very hawkish towards russia and putin. Were she to win, it is likely that he stays on as NSA, but now to the president. He would very likely remove all shackles as you and Hamish discussed. He would call for a more aggressive attitude to fight russia and defeat them.
It is sickening that NATO refuses to shoot down drones and missiles over Ukraine. Damn, the last couple of days, drones have been flying over Romania, even crashing on Romanian territory in some cases, and nothing is being done. What is wrong with the west? Gordon would call for closing the skies.
Amazing interview! He makes the endgame in Ukrainian war very clear: the West must do Ukraini prevail, or, Russia completely defeated in this war, so as to avoid widening the war and confronting Russia in Nato territory.Slava Ukraini❤🇬🇧🇬🇧🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
Really good interview and informative!
See Hamish's name in the title - like directly! always good stuff
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Ukraine needs to shoulder some blame for their lack of preparation and their refusal to acknowledge the massive threat that their neighbour posed to them.
NATO however needs to understand that Ukrainians are fighting not only for their future but also to defend the Baltic states from Russia.
NATO proper is under no threat at all from the Moscow, therefore nearly all our stocks of low/medium tech materiel should be funnelled into Ukraine for use on the frontline.
Horading weapons for a war we'll never fight is pointless while a hot war with Russia is actually happening and is very winnable for a fellow democracy.
@@toi_techno There is truth in this as even Zelenskyy up until December 2021 didn’t believe in the invasion.
Not only that, hoarding weapons for a war which western populations and politicians lack the will to fight is a tragedy, whilst a nation that has the will to sacrifice blood for its survival is denied the means in order to succour an empire which continues to beguile so many in the west.
Ukrainians who tried to address toxic rushin tendencies were universally condemned as nahtzees . Not much less in the barely conscious west than the openly fascistic rusha …
Zelenski says, "The world Is waiting for November." Will that still be true in four years?
lack of preparation? the Ukraine military has had the best part of 10 years to prepare. After the EuroMaidan coup d'état in 2014, NATO led by the US flooded the country with trainers and instructors, supplied the Ukraine military with kit, built several brigades and performed regular NATO exercices,. So of course they were prepared. secondly, the Baltic states where never under threat.
Thanks!
Слава Україні та її воінам,..
Thank you
The 'if Trump...' caveat needs to be updated.
Arms delivery is not cut and dried. Most of the arms sought require training, (more than I got as a squad leader, light weapons infantry). Also to be considered is the unfortunate truth that Europe hasn't a shotgun in the attic, so giving arms is "hampered by unavailability". They can make automobiles but not 155mm shells. The US is staring at two volatile situations a half a world apart which are interconnected and US stockpiles have been neglected by every administration since Regan. The US would want to hide this. Russia is looking incoherent, staggering about with rabies, and might be less rational than we think they are. The trick is to control the technology so Russia is unable to respond when the hammer is dropped. Last card up (in 7 card stud). Of course, the outcome of this war has already been determined and it will simply have to play out to find the cost.
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Another great one. Ive been saying that the US (actual American) have been hampering Ukraine, giving the appearance of full throttle support, a concept fed to and swallowed by most. We could provide critical long range weapons (game changers) with a simple presidential policy.
you must consider this, if longe range weapons supplied, it will be a game changer, but for the wrong outcome.
Ok so there is a non zero chance that Russia would launch a nuke? If you game out that scenario, Russia loses big time and not just Ukraine. It’s a false Russia scare tactic. Russia can’t gain anything from nukes. China stops support, the world hits Russia kinetically. Smart people all agree, hitting Russian airfields will not cause a nuclear war.
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woo, 100k - well deserved! The US wants to keep their own FREEDOM, RIGHTS, and their DEMOCRACY. We will fight hard for that. No TRUMP, No VANCE, no Project 2025. We must have UNITY; Ukraine MUST WIN. If Kamala Harris wins, Jake Sullivan will be replaced as well.
don't you think, the US must get its own house in order? it was reported only today that the US is in debt to the tune of $35 trillion
Thanks
Don't discard Kamala Harris as Prez
I wouldn't, but will she continue Biden's policy of dribs and drabs, a pusillanimous recalcitrant strategy providing just enough for Ukraine to defend itself but not sufficient to take the fight to the aggressor and win.
"Governing" the speed of democracy defense, in the face of totalitarianism, ignores the victim of the aggression and those oppressed by the opressor. Let's get to the point 😊😊
Common sense says destroy Russia when the UN voted this would make them adhere to the 1994 memo ,and force is the Russian language. Need a real leader with a spine.
And wouldn't you know, the Timpson name is dropped again, even here. As a prison officer from one of the countries supposed to do this well, it's good to see he makes an impression on you. He really seems like a proper good guy.
Politicians, not lawyers. Why do we elect lawyers?
Hmmm. Perhaps because the alternative is reality television stars and political theater.
The Russification of Ukraine started in 2014, but so did Ukrainification of Russia. Russians started learning from Ukrainians how to self-organise. More and more Russians started learning, and more and more started applying what they learned to their businesses and their communities. Putin tried to counter this trend with his old methods of persuasion, but as soon as Russian entrepreneurs, students and journalists started self-organising politically, as well, during Covid, he knew his reign would be over, soon.
So he made sure to destroy the source of the influence, to expel the incurable Russian self-organisers, to achieve government control over businesses, media, and education, and to burden the military with an expeditionary task so enormous, that they would no longer be able to stalk the palace corridors.
This is what happened tens of times in the history of the Roman and Byzantine Empires. The Russian empire having claimed right of succession over these empires centuries ago, I see no reason why I should explain the Russo-Ukrainian war from a more original perspective.
There’s no playbook at work, only the compulsion of a pathologicallly unimaginative ruler to revert to the oldest of traditions. He does not want to restore the Soviet Union. He just wants to remain in power.
nailed it Sophie! thank u! I studied international affairs at a socalled ultra elite uni, and it was. That is the best way to describe this enemy's motivation, that of pathologically unimaginative ppl in high power, several hundred ppl basically are causing this harm to the world, or several tens of thousands perhaps if we think of the secret police there and all they do nationally there and abroad. We need to ramp up counter-disinfo ,and my country the US is not doing so bcuz of the divided paranoid politics that the new-right is insisting on being/doing since four years ago
Britain has a TA . It's in most towns. Are they promoting and supporting that enough?
The Russian Generals appear rather vulnerable to disappearing.
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Thank you, Jonathan.
Can I suspect that ruzz has already tossed sime radioactive into their missiles or bombs?
I here hear a cavalry officer who is, as customary, stating the glaringly obvious.
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good content.except Trump will NOT get back into Washington.
Thanks Johnathon & Hamish.. it's disgraceful that 2 &1/2 years into this war & the Ukrainians have not received decent gas marks!!
I'm furious with the lack of "real" & necessary support the West has not provided to Ukraine to WIN!!
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Totally agree with your headline. I feel the West, my West, is still being utterly wet if failing to give Ukraine all it needs to beat Russia hands down. Putin will never give up unless he is squashed flat. He set out his plans (apparently) in 2003 at a meeting in Yinsk of all his senior team. (Listen to an interview on Kyiv Post) Iliaronov. I think the assumption that Trump will be US Pres appears misplaced
Ukraine has received all that it needs over the past 10 years, especially since the coup d'état. unfortunately for the Ukraine military (NATO), the war has dragged on far too long, and it has not got the capacity to produce the armements at scale.
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Hamish - go to the front line and help them then … send YOUR kids too … rather than Ukrainian kids who don’t want to fight !!!
Good luck !
Hmmm.
From what I can see that is far too simple a bit of snark. Russians are....brutal beyond Western accepted values.
@@pcopeland15 I agree - that’s why our politicians,generals and elites will tell US that WE should fight them !!
BORIS epitomises them all !
It’s as if someone wants to see both countries wearing each other out to nothing. If not Europe, then who’s benefiting from this situation?
The American establishment are enjoying the Russian military degrading itself. I’m not so sure it cares much about Ukraine.
- China benefits - they get territory and suzerainty over Russia. They get potentially a signal that they can "get away with" an invasion of Taiwan like they did Tibet.
- India benefits - they get cheap natural resources at the cost of a geopolitically stronger China, but they probably see the demographics and think they can outlast Chinese and eventually get influence over central Asia.
- Iran and DPRK benefit by getting access to Russian (Soviet) tech and cash in exchange for low tech munitions.
- Islamists benefit as there is one fewer country working against them and two more countries with weak policing they can try to set up in. They benefit anywhere there is instability.
The ones who don't benefit are Africans (as net food importers they suffer when two major breadbaskets have a breakdown of industry), Europe (loss of cheap energy from Russia and power from Ukraine. Less stability requiring more defense spending to defend from Russian aggression, loss of a democracy that is improving to join the EU), the US (loss of world influence and stability affecting trade, rule of law, and food prices), and the Syrian government (loss of Russian support for their authoritarian ruling party).
Certainly not Europe
China - they'll seize the Russian 'empire'
Ukraine did not march across a border. Actually Ukraine did not want war.
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No mention of the panic in Trump’s camp now Kamala Harris might become the nominee? Or Michelle Obama even?
I noticed that too, just automatically dismissed Harris campaign as if it didn't exist. This is one of the rare instances I didn't even bother to finish an SC video. And Jonathan should have called him out on that.....
@@ronniehill8213The date of recording might have been a week ago, before Kamala turned the trend. Quite a lot has happened the last days.
For the algorithm.
Is the situation with the immigrants linked to the fighting in Ukraine?
Putin continously programming new 'units' ala SPARTA...
This is were the Ukrainians have shown how behind the time these contaminator are. Drone is the future not billion dollar sub and maned aircraft's.
Every country that afford carriers or subs seem to disagree with you.
39:00 I stop you right there good man, Politicians love to make risky moves, the responsiblity of the follopw up is what they hate
Absolute no sense about where Australia should be and what theatre should be of primary focus. Rethink that one Hamish.
i wasn't quite clear on what he did say about that, can u clarify?
Are there less technical fighter aeroplane ✈️ that could be sent. F16 are highly advanced technology and ee don't want Russia to have access to it.They require mechanics too for maintenance.
nope, not really. There's no substitute available currently for the F16. THis type of war space requires air power
Nookilla. Coming from such an educated mouth sounds so weird.
My original thoughts seem to have been censored so Ill try a more moderate repost. HDBG said without challenge that NATO boots will be forced on the ground in Ukraine. Maybe the Baltics or France would try in small numbers but never the US in its current stance so that sadly is a non-starter. The guest then made a passing claim that Russia had lost 600,000 dead. Not even the wildest estimations say so. I understand why it was not challenged as who wants to undermine a guest in their beliefs but it showed up clearly the extremity of opinion. My question is, do such unquestioned claims help or hinder?
Muscovite losses are over 572 thousands now, on 26 July 2024. Those are dead bodies only, either collected on the baterfield or confirmed visually and these numbers do not include died of wounds later. Back in 1945 Muscovite losses were estimated as 8 million, but after the final calculation they turned out over 12 million. The same pattern applies onto any war waged by Muscovy, including this one.
@@betterdonotanswer Thank you but what is your source? If Ukraine, then it can be discounted. I would like a link or some direction please to websites etc of such sources.
Ukrainian reports have been confirmed miltiple times by various leaked Muscovite documents, so this discounted Muscovite simply cannot discount them and he is not counted enough to demand, request, ask, beg or plead for anything. There is no other source on this planet more reliable and more informed of Muscovite losses than the general staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
@@dss2mtm i dn't have sources at this very moment but have seen this from quite a few legit sources and i've spent thousands of hours in past 2.5 yrs on this! Ru/ussr was always stock full of ppl they could easily expend and with a population so deeply ignorant and poor that it was possible to do this. My best friend from former GDR pointed this out in convo's over the past thirty yrs. Ppl need to wake up to the fact that Ru is like an automaton machine and will have to be stopped cold.
Do you know why NATO has done nothing about the latest breach of Romanian airspace???
Waiting for the Americans to respond…again
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