Firewire Rob "Machadocado" Surfboard Review Ep 146
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- In this episode, Noel Salas reviews Rob Machado's new surfboard called the "Machadocado" by Firewire Surfboards. Is it similar to the "Seaside?" Yes. However it has a squash tail, a little more surface area, and it rides as a twin plus trailer. Noel rode it at Waco Surf with his Twin plus Trailer fin set up in three sessions.
In session 1, Noel found that it carves well and has a lot of down-the-line speed with Rob's signature Twin + Trailer fin set up.
In session 2, he switches the fins and uses a smaller stabilizer. With the Pivot Twins in Prepreg Carbon, the board feels playful, you can push it hard through turns, and it fells a little more high performance compared to the "Seaside."
Finally, in session 3, Noel continued with his Pivot Twins +. Trailer in Prepreg Carbon and really started to gel with the board. Overall, the "Machadocado" pivoted faster, carried similar speed down the line and drew sharper turns compared to the "Seaside." It's a good paddler with lower rocker, which promotes a lot of down the line speed. For all the details, watch the full episode. Enjoy!
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Noel's height 5'9" and weight 172 lb
Board Dims: 5'2" x 19 13/16 x 2 1/4 (25.9L)
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The time you take to discuss foil, contours, rails, and rocker is what makes your reviews head and shoulders above the rest
Cheers for the kind words!! Stoked you like our channel
Great pace to this video! And those frontside carves were very on rail and super stylish 🤙
@@j.mach1133 Stoked you liked it
Dang Noel, you made me do it again, just picked one up at my local surf shop! Cheers bra!
@@bandalee Yewww… lets us all know how it goes and what fins you like in it. Cheers
Same … every time Kevin Schultz puts out a clip my bank balance goes down 😩
Does the Racado go good?
@johnhaden does the Racado go good?
@@tezf6883 super fun board!
Great showcase of the broad - thanks. It's kinda like a Dark Arts 'Dad Bod' (the first one with a squash tail) - the dimensions are similar too, with the Machadocado being even wider and more volume.
I rode the Machadocado in small & lumpy, windy semi - close out surf and it kinda excelled there. It's def more of a groveler than the Mashup, but less so than the Seaside or Sweet Potato, so sizing it up a bit is less of a no-no. I like the tail and fin setup more on this than the Seaside and SP too, as it gets SUPER thin like you mentioned (thickness wise) which helps it pivot better.
With the sea of swallow and round pins on the market, it's nice to see the classic squash back in action. This board doesn't jump out at you when you look at it in store, but I'm really glad it was suggested at one of their demos cause now I 'need' one lol. If I'm not mistaken, the total sq ft of this (Rob's) 2 plus 1 equals the same sq ft of his four fin quad set - and why the trailer is a big larger than normal.
You're ripping on it too, look forward to more vids featuring it - cheers!
Cheers for posting your experience on this board. It will help others.
sort of reminds me of the Sunday nose with the Twice Baked Tail and the Sweet Potato bottom. Near chumlee tail. I really like the look of it for my waves. thanks for the review.
@@ThomyeSurfs this MC out performs the Chumlee by a mile. I couldn’t get the Chumlee to do a legit turn in 1-3’ waves. It was fast… but I didn’t like to turn in the hook.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Yeah, I didn't like the Chumlee either. I could not set the rails on cutbacks. I would just tip over. this Board looks really legit for my weekend waves.
Still wanna try a smaller/medium sized Sunday a groveler..seems maybe they are phasing it out.
@surfnshowreviews7777 Cado vs Flat Earth which board do you prefer?
@@tezf6883 Curious about that too, I have never tried the Flat Earth so I can speak to it. but comparing the two seems like apples to oranges. If I remember correctly, the Flatearth was for performance on Hawaii type waves. Cado seems like a good socal beach break board.
Ripping on the cado Noel! Picked up the 5'6" which has a few more liters than I normally ride, but like you described, with how refined the tail is, and nose ever so slightly pulled in and with just the right amount of flip, it is so much fun. Atm cannot get off this board. I'm glad I went up a size, as FW seems to have skipped the 5'5" - the 5'6" still fits well in pockety surf for quick snaps, but also is a blast in flatter slopey waves. Wraps are especially fun on the cado, just step all the way back to the deckpad kick and bring it all the way around!! Thanks Noel for the awesome review!
@@spacey_77 thanks for posting
Got a 5'6 coming too. How much do you weigh, may I ask? did it paddle and float you Aok at 5'6? I've never gone this short.
@@Craig-t2g awesome! I’m 182lbs 5’9” my regular short boards are around 29-30L
Honestly the first day I surfed the 5’6” cado it felt more than 32L in a good way eg paddling was so easy. Made getting into waves and paddling to keep up with currents super easy. So far took it out on small flatter waves and a few steeper cuppy days and board handles really well. Doing roundhouses/wraps are so fun with this board, I feel like it is definitely smoothing out my surfing. I’ve tried the new Maxhado twin plus trailer set up on small days and it is super fast, but for quick snaps I was sliding out a bit. I threw in my Shapers Asher Pacey uprights plus trailer and they are so solid. I’m going to try the endorfin twin plus shark tooth next to see how they feel.
I don’t regret going up to the 5 6 especially since I planned from the get go to use this board as a groveler and give my shoulders a break in between swells. Also, the next size down would have been 5 4 which for me wouldn’t grovel as well.
@@spacey_77 That's great feedback. Thx! Yes Bowie Pollard over at his shop in sunshine coast also said the board paddled like 33-34 litres. I'm 6 foot, 80-81 kgs 178 180 pounds. Somewhat hesitant about actually going so short, but if it paddles well, then I'm all good. Also interesting note on the fins, I'll probably er towards something like that myself. A bit more fin.
@@Craig-t2g I weigh 172lb. It floats great
Presently grabbing my favorite drink. 🤙🏼
Enjoy!
This one looks really good under Noel's feet. Throwing a lot more spray than many of the recent review boards! Looks like that board loves waist to head high fun conditions!
@@kevinm5564 Absolutely
I've been waiting for this review to come out since I got the email from Firewire about the release of the Machadocado. Got a couple of questions for you: How would you compare this board to the Mashup? And what dimensions would you recommend me if I want to get this board for my everyday board? I am 215lbs, 5'11", mostly surfing during the weekends, SoCal beach brakes from Newport to HB. I am debating between the 5'10" x 21 5/8" x 2 11/16" x 37.6L or going up to the 6'0" x 21 5/8" x 2 3/4" x 40.1L. I just got myself a Sweet Potato 5'6" x 22" x 2 9/16" x 37.8L in the Helium Core with Volcanic Lamination that I'm enjoying as a groveler board. I look forward to your feedback!
Your volume range for your weight at different skill levels.
Pro/Expert 34-36L
Advanced 36-38L
Intermediate 39-41L
If you currently like your 37L board then you can go for similar volume on the MC. The bigger size might feel a bit big in overhead waves with the extra volume.
If your a strong paddler and like your boards more sensitive go for the smaller one. Another thing to consider is the strong currents in those Beachies and foam is your friend.
Love my seaside. Went great at the pool and here in the gulf. Doesn’t like choppy conditions tho. I need to get one of these macadocados
@@jasonsonderfan2381 Yewww… thanks for posting your experience
Those are some sick turns you got on the board! Do you tend to gravitate towards lower volume/dims for the pool vs the ocean or would you probably get it in the same dimensions if you were still surfing SoCal waves/crowds for the review?
@@johns.9527 I tend to go lower in volume in the pools. If I were surfing the MC in So Cal breaks I would jump up a stock size. The 5’4” might be a tad big for me but I would manage the extra foam.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks for the clarification! I appreciate you putting in the time to inform the community and reply to questions here!
@@johns.9527 My pleasure
Great Review! which one do you prefer between MC & Lost puddle jumper Sting in mush waves?
I prefer the PJ Sting. It has more flow and a bit more performance in the pocket as a Quad. As a Twin + Trailer I like the MC better.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Excellent review, as always!
In a punchier wave, shoulder-headhigh with more curve, would you still prefer the PJ Sting or PJHP over the MC performance-wise?
Cheers!
@@rafamellinsosurfe402 I say PJ Sting.
You should do a series on step-up surfboards and big wave surfboards and you ride them in big surf.
@@user-to7hc3md4j Not my thing…
I loved the speed of the Seaside, but I kept catching rails. Does this thing have the same speed and catch less rail ? which do you prefer yourself, Seaside or Machadocado ?
I had similar problems with the Seaside. This MC is a lot more forgiving in that area. It’s fast like the Seaside too. I like this one better
@@surfnshowreviews7777 legend🙌
Board looks sick! Good size and good flow.
Tomo aside are getting a rocado?
@@tezf6883 😆 mayyyyybe. lol. Looks like a fun board.
If i recall correctly your favourite groveler was the dominator 2.0, how would you compare these two boards? Looks like the machadocado might have a better lowrange but the dominator might give a little more performance?
Hard to compare these two boards. The D2 is not a wide nose hybrid board design like the MC. The MC is a legitimate Groveler be design with its wider outline and lower overall rocker. The D2 is more of a Small Wave Performance board or Daily Driver. Both boards are epic and make a good two board quiver.
I'm getting a Baked Potato vibe with this board!
Agree very similar, baked potato was a great board and popoular in its day. I still have an old one , carrying a bit of water but goes great still!!
Another great review. Noel - you should come out to the new wave park in AZ when it opens 🤙🏼
@@pewpewpro3309 I would love too. Send me the invite
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Send us the invite too. :)
“He comes from a wave tank in Arizona!”
@@jasonfreestone9944 Sounds fun to me.
Revel Surf in AZ. Using Swell Manufacturing wave tech, Shane Beschen is the brand manager for this company.
Your reviews are great! I have a mash up as a 2+1 and love it. Could the machadocado bump the mash up out of the quiver?
@@tomdiggie01 Absolutely.. I like the MC better.
Love this review! Noel, I've been riding a 5'5" 31.5 seaside in Florida for years. I'm afraid to drop down to the 5'4" Cado as it's only 28L. 5'6" at 32 L sounds so big. I'm 5'8" 170 pounds, advanced skill what are your thoughts on sizing? 30L is usually what I ride in good waves. Thanks in advance :)
@@3erlewis Sounds like the gap between these two stock sizes is not working for you. I hate my boards feeling to big but low volume in weak mushy waves doesn’t work either. Maybe consider a different board
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Dude, thanks for replying!
I would love to see you test some of the local hawaii shapers boards other than pyzel. Would be good for the guys going to hawaii for surf trips but want a board more tailored to hawaii surf like the pros do every year
@@bsmbB Not sure those boards would go well at Waco.
I am hoping to get a board from Glen Pang. I wouldn’t do any HPSB’s or step up boards. I think the pros do a great job riding the HPSB and the waves are not big enough in So Cal and other popular spots often enough for me to focus on those. Sorry
This is the board I’ve been trying to get shaped for over 20 years.
Look no further… you can snag one now.
Great stuff Noel - thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it
Are you planning on reviewing any wake boards? That would be so sick.
@@rstthree I did a wake surf episode last Summer. It was fun… not enough interest for us to continue doing more
Great review as always
Are the JS flamefish & machadocado similar boards?
Which one is better?
Thanks mate
@@mickleddyfishing4986 Yes, they are similar. The FF has less overall rocker and might be a tad faster down the line. The Cado has a little better wave range and will be fun in head high surf. The FF will struggle in faster steeper waves…. Do to less curve in rocker.
Awesome
Thanks heaps bud
Great vids
Keep it up
Great review Noel! How would this compare to Pyzel’s White Tiger as a groveler for beach breaks? Is this one faster down the line?
The WT is faster down the line and offers more performance in the pocket. If I had to choose…. I say WT!
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks a lot Noel! And what would you choose between the JS Flame Fish and Pyzel WT? If you like speed and performance groveling?
@@stolkkj WT over FF
Hi Noel, thanks for the great review ! I'm undecided between the MC and the Mashup for small summer waves, any thoughts ?
@@mauriziochicco6881 MC offers more speed…,
I wish there a was a bit more emphasis on its grovel abilities - especially since this board looks the part.
I would be in the market for this board or the JS flame fish.
The Cado really doesn’t have much rocker… so it’s going to be fast in small mushy waves. The FF might be a tad faster with its wider outline but the Cado out performs the FF.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 I appreciate what you guys do, thanks for the input. 👍 🏄♂️
Do you think an RNF 96 can cover the same range better than the ‘cado? I’ve had the seaside for several years and love it, but need a more twin / twin + trailer 1 board quiver filler.
@@jamesk9087 The 96 has a better wave range. I like the 96 better
How do these wave pools work? Do you belong to the pool....like a membership? Can you surf it whenever you want? Is it always packed with tourists/beginners?
@@hewonyew Booking at Waco is pretty easy and some open times this month. Book the advance wave and won’t see beginners to much
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Ahhh so you must book in advance. How many waves (Advanced) do you get in a session? I live in SoCal so not looking to book...just curious how it works, thanks Noel!
@@hewonyew You get roughly 12 waves per session + the occasional wave someone falls on or miss catching one.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thats more than I get now in a two hour ocean session!
A lot of similarities to the Baked Potato which was a hit in its day!!
Best board name ever😂
Hi Noel, I see you're surfing well! I hope you don't mind me asking about your hip. I am 47 and have been having right hip pain, my front leg. The x-ray said minimal joint space narrowing. Did you have much pain at the "minimal" stage? I glimpsing my future and well I'm annoyed. Thanks Eric
@@EK-lp8od At the minimal stage I had occasional pain. Maybe see a message therapist… and do some good stretching.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Did you have clicking, popping, a feeling like it gets stuck at times? Thanks Noel!
@@EK-lp8od I could feel bone on bone towards the end and the pain was consistent 7 out of 10.
My left hip… (non surgery) has a bit of pain too, and clicks a bit. Could be my labrum or nothing. X Rays on my l Face Time side are good. Surgeon says that hip is good. However MRI might see something with my labrum.
I am seeing a message therapist monthly.. it’s been helping both of my hips.
Do you no the Machado Cado 5'6 is 2 9/16 thick and the 5'8 is 2 1/2 thick? So the 5'8 is actually thinner then the 5'6, I felt both sizes under arm and the 5'8 feels a little thinner then the 5'6 cado which I like. Has anyone noticed this?
Noel, pretty big size gap between 5’8” and 5’10”. I normally ride 35.5 L. Some say size up for a groveler but the 5’10” feels really big. Does it make sense to surf this shape as small as possible? It’s just so wide.
@@nduich I don’t like too much foam. Maybe consider a different model.. like the Mashup
Hey Noel, what's your favorite "quad fish"? I surf a lot of lefts/backside and sometimes the twin feels sketchy. Was thinking a quad would help that issue? Feel free to point me in the direction of another of your videos if you already addressed this topic. Thanks!
@@ccrider8277 check the Puddle Jumper Sting… sort of Fishy but shreds as a Quad
get an Asym, quad on the heel, twin on the toe. best of both worlds
@@alang253 The Asym I rode like that had no traction. It was loose and pivoted quickly on the heal side turns but zero hold. Every turn I did the board was sliding out. I had Matt Parker from Album shape me a board a few years back.
Would you recommend running your normal shortboard volume? Or better to volume up?
@@trestlesrocks if your surfing 1-2’ mushy waves then you can volume up a liter or so. I like my boards responsive… some folks like 2-3L more in small weak waves.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 I’m trying to decide between the 5’6” and the 5’8”. I’m 6’0” 190lbs. Good wave shortboard currently is Sharpeye 77 6’2”x19 3/4”x2 11/6” 32.6L. The machado cado would be my everyday board for junk to fun head high. Leaning towards the 5’6” at roughly my normal volume, but worried about the 8” length change feeling too extreme.
How does it compare to the seaside on the bottom end as a groveller for weak/fat/mushy waves in the thigh to head high range?
@@DavidWilcox-hy9ot Seaside might be a tad faster due to it being a Quad. However the MC is still pretty quick and it offers way more performance with less catching in the nose are through turns.
Thoughts on this vs a pyzel white tiger? Seem similar to me, squash tail longer rail foam forward grovelers… I am a begintermediate surfer getting more comfortable on shortboards, can catch up to around head high waves reliably but don’t really rip or do major maneuvers yet, mostly go down the line and working on going more top to bottom on the face. I’m on a 5’8 hypto currently, twin plus trailer. I was thinking maybe a 5’6 MC or a 5’7 WT, mainly interested in getting looser with a squash tail vs pintail. It might be fair to say I’m not good enough yet to appreciate the differences and should just stay on the hypto. Any thoughts if either of these boards might be worthwhile for my progression?
@@jcsul15 The MCado is a great step to your second board. It’s stable and fast.
The WTis good too… I think the MC is a bit more stable and easier to surf.
I ride a 5'11 seaside and I am 6'3 220 pounds. It feels like a good volume for me. Ride new smyrna/ ponce inlet Fl. Ive had my seaside for 5 years and its gotten a little waterlogged and pink. Looking for something similar to seaside a little more performance. Do you think the 6'0 Machadocado is it for me?
@@Garebare24 Yes, go similar volume as your Seaside
Thanks for the great review! This Machado or the pyzel white tiger for 1-3 east coast mush?
This or the Sweet Potato
Longboard is the only way for small east coast waves.
@@matthewschumacher756 I say White Tiger… it’s faster
@@pewpewpro3309 Not a fan of the SP. This Machado is better by a mile.
Great video! I currently ride a 5’10” seaside 39.4L, a 6’4” S boss 37.7L. Would you recommend the 5’10” 37.6L or the 6,0 40L machadocado? I’m 6’4, 190# intermediate surfer
@@crossfit2260 if your Seaside feels good volume wise then go 6’0 Cado.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks for the reply. The seaside feels good but I am looking for more performance. Do you think the 6’0” will still have more performance than the seaside even at 40l?
@@crossfit2260 If your S Boss feels good volume wise the. You can go 5’10” on the Cado and get more performance compared to your Seaside.
Noel how would you compare the Cado to the RW? Which is more user friendly?
@@jorgeandrescoppiano.5715 the Cado has less overall rocker so it’s faster and paddles better. The Cado is more of a Groveler and shreds 1-3’ surf. You can surf it in a little overhead waves but it’s best in smaller waves.
The RW is more of a small wave performance board. It does tighter arcing turns and likes to surf the pocket more vertical. Basically the RW is a step down small wave shredder. For most surfers… including myself it’s my daily HPSB. Most small wave performance boards fall into this category… they rip 3-6’ flatter faced waves that aren’t super hollow.
wish they made a 5'3". The 5'4" is a whole 1" wider than the 5'2". The 5'4" definitely feels wide under the arm.
@@papamarban2185 I think a 5’3” is needed too
Dude what about that jump from 40 to 47 liters in the larger sizes? Though I think it’ll work upsized.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 do you think jumping from the 5'2" to the 5'4" that the wide nose would be a liability to the nose digging and tracking?
@@papamarban2185 It could be… just surf it off the tail more
Did you relocate to Texas?
Think it would be a good beginner shortboard?
@@charleshawk6668 Yes… in TX now. You can use the Cado as your first step down for a beginner if you graduated from a long board. If you get a Cado make sure it has a good amount of volume so it’s stable and you catch waves easily.
If you’re brand new to surfing… then get a 9’ soft top and make learning more fun.
Too fish or machadocado for mushy waves? Differences?
@@teamcamaleon I didn’t have the Privilege to ride the Too Fish… I am sure the MC will out perform the Fish
What next? Banana? Lettuce? Pear? Relasing so many different boards make the old ones redundant and with no value, when on really is another one like many others
Carlos … you must not understand how sales work. Were you aware that Ford made more cars than the Model T?
Want to get back into surfing after 20 years. East coast on LI looking at the cado in 6'0 or 6'2. I'm 5'5" 160lbs. Whats is your thoughts?
@@brianfrawley3616 Go 6’2” Cado. Catch a bunch of waves and make it easy on yourself. After you get back in paddle shape and start surfing better then scale down your board.
I’m curious why you didn’t ride it as a twin without a trailer ?Thanks
@@ammasashwin1 I will try it as a Twin when I compare it to the Seaside
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Looking forward to that video! I sold my Seaside (too big) planning to size down to a 5'5 / 5'6 SS, then this thing comes out! lol.
I’m about same size as u, 160lb. Why go pretty short instead of 5’9” to 6’ shortboard. Do u lose speed?
I don’t like HPSB’s boards longer than my height. I especially don’t like boards longer than 5’6” at Waco Surf.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 if I grab smaller board like urs, do I lose speed or not really
@@Soulriderpowder Longer boards offer more rail line to generate speed with. I like a shorter board to put it where I want faster to generate speed surfing top to bottom quickly
Reckon yous will review the Hayden Shapes Atelier performance cruiser? 🤙
Haven’t seen that board yet
@@surfnshowreviews7777 might have to have a little look 😉
Can we get a Lost Party Platter review?
@@bubbler9583 I am currently working on the Lost Ripper and Pisces for now. Sorry
Hi. How does this board compare to a Gskate considering they have different tails and front end? Which one is more fund and allows to high performance?
@@JOSELUIS-ci2hs This MC out performs the GSkate in 1-3’ surf. It’s way faster and pivots better. The GSkate has a better upper end wave range with its overall rocker and pulled in tail.
Do a review about the new lost the ripper
@@user-gc7lt7hm5c working on this review now. Hang tight
Why am I hearing about these everywhere now?
Have you ever ridden the Glazer model and if so how would yoy compare those two (Cado vs Glazer). Thanks
@@kanablis1946 Sorry never had the privilege of riding the Glazer. No comment
Does this board come in FCS2? I have the endorphins and dont really wanna buy machados 2 +1
@@Garebare24 I think it’s only available with Future boxes
Rob Machado is cruisey carvey
...not rip hard....so the board probably does the cruisey carvey/ trim thing ..better than the top to bottom.
It’s a superbrand fling! Which has been around for 5years or more 🤷🏻♂️
@@chrro466 I had the fling in my hands a couple times…. This MC kinda has its own look and feel
@@surfnshowreviews7777 I did enjoy the fling in smaller waves particularly in their epoxy/ carbon mesh build. I m very tempted by this new Machado.
It looks great under your feet in the wave pool 🤙🏼🤙🏼
Thanks for the review
Looks like a Chumlee
@@brba1325 Out performs the Chumlee by a mile. The Chumlee would not do a legitimate turn in the pocket.
More Potatonator like vs Seaside .......
How does it compare to the flame fish?
Good comparison… Flame Fish might be a little Faster down the line but the MC is better in the pocket. Both boards will grovel well
I’m 5’8”/185#
What size be good.
Adv. intermediate level
@@jledesmaf1 What are the dims and volume of your favorite Groveler or Daily Driver?
@@surfnshowreviews7777 I. Ant recall. The last one I had was the Al Merrill “POD”
I believe that it was around 28-29 vol?? I do know it was a 5’8” standard construction board. I was lighter back then 170# roughly
I stopped surfing due to back surgery and haven’t hit the waves in over three years.
Looking to return
Machadocado or JS flame fish??
@@user-gc9xr3fq7i Great comparison… 1-2’ mushy waves I say Flame Fish for down the line speed. 14’ surf good speed with good performance in the pocket for a Groveler goes to the MC
The surfing was prettier with the 1st fins
How does this compare to Sweet Potato?
Sorry never tried that board.
Biscuit 2.0
No, biscuit 2.0 was Glazer
Weird sizing. It's a 3.5L jump from the 5'4 to 5'6
That’s a huge Liter gap
chinese pop tart?
*Thai pop tart
That’s a chunky tail! Probably much different depending on whether you’re front or back footed as far as sliding out. 🤙🏼
@@adriancalma3508 I love Pop Tarts
@@allsurf Use a raked twin + trailer and a bigger trailer
@adriancalma3508 you buying a cado?
Another gimmick it’s a wide tailed surfboard. Big deal.
Another gimmick you can't even surf
Don’t know why has nothing to do with application and performance but I hate how this thing looks 😂 shape is so ugly
It does have its own look. Not a fish and not a performance outline. It’s a fun board though
Are you worried about your image girls won't look at you when you walk down the beach with the Machado Racado under your arm? 😂