Didn't you say the GTX 970's memory was 4GB and then it turned out to be 3.5GB? So we just have to wait on the Titan X 12GB turning out to have 6GB of it's memory made out of chocolate buttons :)
You completely missed the issue of VRAM. The 980 and the 290X have only 4 GB VRAM, which is not enough for modern games at 4K, and the Titan X is a 4K gaming card.
Titan cards were never designed for gaming in mind, people seem to forget that. Also sli is useless with them as well but people are posting they bought 2 for gaming. Waste of money buy two 970s for sli or even two 980s.
So, a slightly cut down GM200 in the form of a 980Ti please? So Nvidia could skip this generation for a high end Ti part (there wasn't one in the 600 series) but I have hopes we could see a $100 premium over 980 Ti part come out that will propose serious performance. If they could sweeten the deal with 6GB vRAM it'd sell like hot cakes (for a high end GPU, anyway)
Richard woo AMD doesnt run like shit on linux, if it does you dont know what your doing. R9 290 beats all similar Nvidia cards (780 ti/970/980) in Linux performance.
Where can you buy this immediately before scalpers snatch them up? Google is only returning reviews, but no store pages. It looks like you can only buy it direct from the Geforce website right now.
This build: Intel Core i7-5960X 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor NZXT Kraken X61 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler Asus RAMPAGE V EXTREME EATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory Samsung XP941 Series 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive Western Digital BLACK SERIES 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive GeForce GTX Titan X 12GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) Corsair 780T ATX Full Tower Case Corsair 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply Asus Xonar Phoebus 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card Asus PQ321Q 31.5" Monitor
i'll just get a 2nd 980 or wait and get two 980 ti's to help power my 3 rog swifts. I only use surround for racing/flight/space sims and so far single 980 has been getting me by on 7680x1440 gsync lol...i've just been waiting on 980 ti to get back to sli...but don't think i'm willing to spend $1k per card on titan x
Aaaaand conveniently no mention of reduced double precision capabilities. You guys should know that many previous Titan users are paying the premium for professional use aside from the performance, and now that it is reduced to a pure gaming card at the same release price, the Titan X becomes a much worse value proposition, even compared to other fellow Titans.
Did he just say "styling and look"???? We're talking about a graphics card which is going to spend its entire life *inside a PC case!* So far as I'm concerned it can look exactly like a pile of dog crap so long as it performs because I don't intend to take my PC to bits every day so I can admire the wonderful "style and look" of my motherboard and its attachments, I'd much rather spend my time *actually playing games!*
+colourmegone I understand you don't care, and I don't either, but can you imagine the shitstorm that would follow if they launched a $1,000 graphics card that looked like shit? That costs more than most people's computers, it better look decent. They have to make it out of something anyway so they might as well spend the extra 12 cents on the extra plastic to make it look okay. And some people want to have nice looking PCs.
+colourmegone My tower has a window (Phanteks Enthoo Luxe), and it is beautiful to see my computer at work... <3 Also, the same way people find paintings, building architectures, cars and engines beautiful, a PC enthousiast will find a PC component beautiful.
40-45 percent faster than 290x? that's good news seeing that the rumours say the 390x will be around 60 percent faster than the 290x. so another 10 percent over the titan x and i'm sold
I'm sorry but just because nvidia doesn't market it as a good value doesn't mean they shouldn't be held accountable for this pricing. Flagship gpus of the past were also the absolute best of their time and were marketed to people that would settle for nothing less....yet they didn't price the cards 200% higher than the 2nd fastest gpu.
FP32 with large memory space seems like a winning card for a lot of the machine learning network models. Abandoning FP64 drops a lot of the scientific computing in fortran that would have been nice for this card. Talking about it as a gaming card misses any use cases. This should be a poor man's tesla but the focus on fp32 in maxwell limits the usability for a significant percentage of the low budget researchers. Hopefully the 390x will hit the sweet spot.
Robert Fontaine I don't think a lot of people require double precision. Also you can use it for rendering. There are a lot of use cases for it other than gaming.
somehow, how about the cooler duh...and a back plate could of acted as a heat sink and helped cool the card as a heat sink blocks airflow to the component its cooling ......
Yes a heat sink blocks air flow directly to the component its cooling this giving it more surface area to dissipate the heat and air is an insulator one reason thermal compound is used in between the components and thus a back plate would of been perfect for this card
thoresf A backplate reduces space between multiple cards in a case with 2 slot spacing. This reduces the efficiency of the fan because fans require spacing away from them to work their best. Since this card is supposed to be a cheap version of the tesla cards there will be multiple cards in a single case for compute reasons. Removing the backplate makes sense for that but not for gaming or if you only have 1 card installed. Gaming is not the main market for this card.
999$ furnace which doesn't have a backplate. Also, SLI is a bad reason to not put a backplate in it. The memory is also heating that pcb and when it heats the pcb, the gpu is gonna look like a hammock unless there are many layers of pcb and overall thick firebglass reinforcement because the aluminum cooler weighs alot.
***** I own a thermal camera and I can say that all nvidia cards that I have own (gtx *80's) they all are hotter from the other side of the gpu because there is no cooling. And if you stick memory modules there, its gonna get much hotter. If you still do not believe, I can send a picture.
3rdpartyU5er I don't think you understand the point of removing the backplate. It is to make space between cards in a multi card case so the blower can pull in air better. This card is mostly for scientific calculations where it will be with multiple cards in a single case.Fans require a certain spacing away from them to perform the best that they can. If you cram something too close they perform worse.
cole2839 I do know the purpose of removal very well but I think you don't understand my point. Who is going to SLI these cards when one already has 12GB of vram. If someone were to need more GPU horsepower they should buy 980's. Titan X has no double precision performance and the card is for the sake of single precision performance and the amount of vram.
no back plate? the fuck? it looks so cheap without one, ffs! i'm glad i bought a 295x2. it's still the fastest card and it looks so good. might get another one from ebay when the next gen gpus are out. it will be dirt cheap and i'll have 1kW of gpus in my pc. #pcmr
Why are they charging $999 when the fp64 is 1/32, same as gtx 980? The original titan was overpriced but at least it did have features useful to prosumers. It seems nvidia are drinking the apple koolaid, which is the fault of the fanboys that will pay any price for 25-35% more performance than the 980. Problem is when the 390x launches they'll either have to drop the price of titan or release a fully unlocked 980 ti with 6gb of vram To even compete with it. Of course that will be a slap on the face to anyone that buys titan x now.
***** yes there are very specific use cases for this card. These cases also applied to previous large die gpu flagships though, such as the 580 that was much cheaper.
Seems pointless getting a product like this even from a shear computing power view. Kinda sounds like nvidia got this out to push amd out of the gpu market.
MVrockersPS3 >could shave a couple hundred off price HAHAHA lol nvidia are acting like a bunch of jews, do you really thing they'd lower prices for anything?
***** fp64 = 1/32 of fp32. Fp64 =. 2 teraflops ... Maxwell isn't worth buying for scientific compute no matter how many gigs of ram and the choice of 384 width bus reflects the lack of bandwidth. $1000 for a card that has no merit outside of gaming. Math and science geeks that might normally like a Titan card should take a pass on Maxwell. Covets that fit into 12 gigs seem to be the exception. The lack of bandwidth is going restrict spanning networks across cards. The 4 card boxes likely don't make sense unless running 4 different experiments.
***** again the compression is fine for bits on screens but probably results in even worse bandwidth for scientific compute. This is a pure video card with limited use cases beyond 4k gaming. Value proposition of the Titan was that it was a full meal deal card. This is a one trick pony that can't pay for itself.
I dont care how well it performs, the cooler still looks ugly... Oh yea, and i'll never be able to afford it anyway Edit: A 980 didn't make sense compared to the 970, how do they expect this to sell?
But the Z is a dual gpu,also it costed 3000$,and at the time the Z came out the 295x2 was cheaper and better which just smashed it Also with the hunger for resolution we have right now,having even 5k displays two or three of these will get good framerates so it will do better than the titan z
AbstractGaming Are you high? Titan Z still way outperforms this. Not to mention the Titan X is made irrelevant by the 980 for only a little more than half the price. And 5k gaming isn't going to happen for several more generations. This card won't get good performance on a single 5k display, let alone multiple. 5k is double the pixels of 4k, and this card isn't nearly enough of a power boost over the 980 for that.
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where are all the AMD stuff? they've been quiet for too long i want a R9 390
June
this did not age well...
4 of these in Direct X12, 48 GB vram master race
you do know that with any sli/crossfire you can only use the amount of vram in 1 card.....
so in 4-way you can still only use 12gb
The Vram doesn't stack up you would still have 12 gb of Vram.
with direct x12 it can, everyone knows it doesn't stack. but it can when direct x12 comes
Andrew Ayers with dx12 it can
*drools
I bought 3 of these. I have 3 980 ti in my system currently but can't wait to run these monsters in 3 way sli
I love my Titan X :) its a beast
+jpotts1515gaming Amen, brother!
+HummingbirdSound :)
+jpotts1515gaming hehe.. Titan owners are suckers
***** k. you keep thinking that
This would be amazing for gpu based rendering programs, some which can only use a single gpu.
Didn't you say the GTX 970's memory was 4GB and then it turned out to be 3.5GB? So we just have to wait on the Titan X 12GB turning out to have 6GB of it's memory made out of chocolate buttons :)
0:55 that swallow though
You completely missed the issue of VRAM. The 980 and the 290X have only 4 GB VRAM, which is not enough for modern games at 4K, and the Titan X is a 4K gaming card.
Titan cards were never designed for gaming in mind, people seem to forget that. Also sli is useless with them as well but people are posting they bought 2 for gaming. Waste of money buy two 970s for sli or even two 980s.
So, a slightly cut down GM200 in the form of a 980Ti please? So Nvidia could skip this generation for a high end Ti part (there wasn't one in the 600 series) but I have hopes we could see a $100 premium over 980 Ti part come out that will propose serious performance.
If they could sweeten the deal with 6GB vRAM it'd sell like hot cakes (for a high end GPU, anyway)
Ross Bishop The "ti" of the 600 series was the 690
Not really, it was a dual GPU card and near as powerful as two 680s, the Ti would be about 30% better than the 980.
Spoilers : The GTX 980 Ti are coming in a few months, the GPUs that don't quite meet the Titan X specifications are re-purposed as GTX 980 Ti.
The question I have is: with 12gb of VRAM, how well do two of these handle 4k and 4k surround gaming?
Not much better than any other card. 4gb Vram is enough for 4k a lot of the time, and this card just really isn't powerful enough for 4k surround
perfect!
This graphics card is so hyped... Hopefully it lives up to its expectation!
So, they didn't add a backplate just in case you spend 2000$ and SLI them?
I barely afforded one, wish it had backplate
All these expensive GPUs yet can't get any of them BCUZ im poor xD
Richard woo Why didn't U like ur GTX 970??? The VRAM or ????
Richard woo Oh, any card that u would recommend? I'll be getting a new Pc soon :3
Richard woo It did help, really never saw it this way. Thx :/
Richard woo AMD doesnt run like shit on linux, if it does you dont know what your doing. R9 290 beats all similar Nvidia cards (780 ti/970/980) in Linux performance.
Where can you buy this immediately before scalpers snatch them up? Google is only returning reviews, but no store pages. It looks like you can only buy it direct from the Geforce website right now.
This build:
Intel Core i7-5960X 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor
NZXT Kraken X61 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Asus RAMPAGE V EXTREME EATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard
Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
Samsung XP941 Series 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
Western Digital BLACK SERIES 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
GeForce GTX Titan X 12GB Video Card (2-Way SLI)
Corsair 780T ATX Full Tower Case
Corsair 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Asus Xonar Phoebus 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card
Asus PQ321Q 31.5" Monitor
1:35 channelling Christopher Walken? :D
Would it be better to have two 390x's or one of these?
Reminds me of the times when the HD4870X2 had to compete with a GTX280...
i'll just get a 2nd 980 or wait and get two 980 ti's to help power my 3 rog swifts. I only use surround for racing/flight/space sims and so far single 980 has been getting me by on 7680x1440 gsync lol...i've just been waiting on 980 ti to get back to sli...but don't think i'm willing to spend $1k per card on titan x
This thing is a beast for rendering and games quite well. It is a actually a value if you're using it for rendering!
I have an odd question can I put two Titan x graphics cards in my PC and would it work as good or better than only using 1 thank you!
Why they dont make the memory bandwidth 512 bit like on gtx 280 and 285?
Aaaaand conveniently no mention of reduced double precision capabilities. You guys should know that many previous Titan users are paying the premium for professional use aside from the performance, and now that it is reduced to a pure gaming card at the same release price, the Titan X becomes a much worse value proposition, even compared to other fellow Titans.
Would this be overkill for editing video in Adobe premier or would it virtually kill render time??
11,5 Gb?
This joke is getting old.
Juan Martinez Yep, but still funny)))
Unforevable no its not you original grasshopper
Unforevable No, it was never funny...
Eric Lin Nvidia fanboy detected;)
i just see that my 2 gtx 980 are getting old now
dawm you pc gamng. good video buy the way
Is it really 12gb or 11.5 with a slower 500mb memory chip.
bad sound on live stream, 1 mic is off :(
Did he just say "styling and look"???? We're talking about a graphics card which is going to spend its entire life *inside a PC case!* So far as I'm concerned it can look exactly like a pile of dog crap so long as it performs because I don't intend to take my PC to bits every day so I can admire the wonderful "style and look" of my motherboard and its attachments, I'd much rather spend my time *actually playing games!*
+colourmegone I understand you don't care, and I don't either, but can you imagine the shitstorm that would follow if they launched a $1,000 graphics card that looked like shit? That costs more than most people's computers, it better look decent. They have to make it out of something anyway so they might as well spend the extra 12 cents on the extra plastic to make it look okay. And some people want to have nice looking PCs.
+colourmegone My tower has a window (Phanteks Enthoo Luxe), and it is beautiful to see my computer at work... <3 Also, the same way people find paintings, building architectures, cars and engines beautiful, a PC enthousiast will find a PC component beautiful.
when is ek coming out with a block?
This looks like an advertisement of the AMD 295X rather than a review of the Titan X. That's my impression.
40-45 percent faster than 290x? that's good news seeing that the rumours say the 390x will be around 60 percent faster than the 290x. so another 10 percent over the titan x and i'm sold
I wonder if it could handle three 4K displays? Have we gotten there yet?
we already are there, you just can't game on it :)
DasBrotkuchen yeah I was a bit vague with my question. I was referring to triple monitor gaming. Sorry bout that :)
I would recommend at least 2 Titans for 3 4K monitors.
***** 2 of them can barely run 4k ultra and maintaining a stable 60-70 FPS.. No way this could ever do triple 4k
12GB. - Memory gate = 8GB ?
Hey guys, I was wondering if I could use my 40 inch Samsung smart tv as my PC monitor. Please let me know what you think. Thanks
I'm sorry but just because nvidia doesn't market it as a good value doesn't mean they shouldn't be held accountable for this pricing. Flagship gpus of the past were also the absolute best of their time and were marketed to people that would settle for nothing less....yet they didn't price the cards 200% higher than the 2nd fastest gpu.
Is it just me or he sounds like Mark Zuckerberg?
Given how large the GPU actually is, generally speaking this would translate into great temperatures under water right?
i don't think you should turn it on under water
5british5 Clarkson pls.
Underwater typically refers to watercooling a card amongst techies.
: P
TwitchFast you'll get shocked if you put it under water. Just buy a toaster.
Most likely considering Ryan got 1.4GHz with stock cooler.
Wow great video that thing is a beast
FP32 with large memory space seems like a winning card for a lot of the machine learning network models. Abandoning FP64 drops a lot of the scientific computing in fortran that would have been nice for this card. Talking about it as a gaming card misses any use cases. This should be a poor man's tesla but the focus on fp32 in maxwell limits the usability for a significant percentage of the low budget researchers. Hopefully the 390x will hit the sweet spot.
Robert Fontaine I don't think a lot of people require double precision. Also you can use it for rendering. There are a lot of use cases for it other than gaming.
is he Mark from Facebook??? LOL
>.> please explain how a back plate would restricts air flow to the cooling housing on the other side of the card....
somehow, how about the cooler duh...and a back plate could of acted as a heat sink and helped cool the card as a heat sink blocks airflow to the component its cooling ......
Yes a heat sink blocks air flow directly to the component its cooling this giving it more surface area to dissipate the heat and air is an insulator one reason thermal compound is used in between the components and thus a back plate would of been perfect for this card
thoresf A backplate reduces space between multiple cards in a case with 2 slot spacing. This reduces the efficiency of the fan because fans require spacing away from them to work their best. Since this card is supposed to be a cheap version of the tesla cards there will be multiple cards in a single case for compute reasons. Removing the backplate makes sense for that but not for gaming or if you only have 1 card installed. Gaming is not the main market for this card.
***** rofl
*****^^ The GPU is on the PCB and having a backplate restricts airflow on the back.^^ that one xD
999$ furnace which doesn't have a backplate. Also, SLI is a bad reason to not put a backplate in it. The memory is also heating that pcb and when it heats the pcb, the gpu is gonna look like a hammock unless there are many layers of pcb and overall thick firebglass reinforcement because the aluminum cooler weighs alot.
***** I own a thermal camera and I can say that all nvidia cards that I have own (gtx *80's) they all are hotter from the other side of the gpu because there is no cooling. And if you stick memory modules there, its gonna get much hotter. If you still do not believe, I can send a picture.
***** Well now you know :P
3rdpartyU5er I don't think you understand the point of removing the backplate. It is to make space between cards in a multi card case so the blower can pull in air better. This card is mostly for scientific calculations where it will be with multiple cards in a single case.Fans require a certain spacing away from them to perform the best that they can. If you cram something too close they perform worse.
cole2839 I do know the purpose of removal very well but I think you don't understand my point. Who is going to SLI these cards when one already has 12GB of vram. If someone were to need more GPU horsepower they should buy 980's. Titan X has no double precision performance and the card is for the sake of single precision performance and the amount of vram.
5K? They don't even sell monitors @5K except maybe two of them. Also, who the hell plays with 5k monitor? 4K is pretty much enough.
no back plate? the fuck? it looks so cheap without one, ffs!
i'm glad i bought a 295x2. it's still the fastest card and it looks so good.
might get another one from ebay when the next gen gpus are out. it will be dirt cheap and i'll have 1kW of gpus in my pc.
#pcmr
hmm no 8 pin I call bs my 970 has a 6 pin and 8 pin connector so BS that it's only the titan x that gets an 8 pin connector
It does look amazing!
just ordered one
..................
heh one born every minute.
***** Huh? No I wasn't talking to you.
waiting on amd's offerings before making decisions on what to dream about
Why are they charging $999 when the fp64 is 1/32, same as gtx 980? The original titan was overpriced but at least it did have features useful to prosumers. It seems nvidia are drinking the apple koolaid, which is the fault of the fanboys that will pay any price for 25-35% more performance than the 980. Problem is when the 390x launches they'll either have to drop the price of titan or release a fully unlocked 980 ti with 6gb of vram To even compete with it. Of course that will be a slap on the face to anyone that buys titan x now.
***** yes there are very specific use cases for this card. These cases also applied to previous large die gpu flagships though, such as the 580 that was much cheaper.
Seems pointless getting a product like this even from a shear computing power view. Kinda sounds like nvidia got this out to push amd out of the gpu market.
I'll take 2 please!
12gb is too small ammount, i want 24GB!
They need to release the Tis. I'm waiting on the 980ti to upgrade my computer and a 960ti to upgrade my bros computer.
This basically is the 980 ti.
And there is only rumors of a 960 ti
Jacob eMatt well I dont need 12gb of ram and stuff. Could shave a couple hundred off price as a 980ti.
MVrockersPS3 >could shave a couple hundred off price
HAHAHA lol nvidia are acting like a bunch of jews, do you really thing they'd lower prices for anything?
wow is it faster than my 960
GTX Titan X ahhhh yeah
My gtx 480 and wallet are in tears
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the hole 960/970/980/titan line is totally overpriced
Meh, I'll stick with my 980.
FP64?
***** fp64 = 1/32 of fp32. Fp64 =. 2 teraflops ... Maxwell isn't worth buying for scientific compute no matter how many gigs of ram and the choice of 384 width bus reflects the lack of bandwidth. $1000 for a card that has no merit outside of gaming. Math and science geeks that might normally like a Titan card should take a pass on Maxwell. Covets that fit into 12 gigs seem to be the exception. The lack of bandwidth is going restrict spanning networks across cards. The 4 card boxes likely don't make sense unless running 4 different experiments.
***** again the compression is fine for bits on screens but probably results in even worse bandwidth for scientific compute. This is a pure video card with limited use cases beyond 4k gaming. Value proposition of the Titan was that it was a full meal deal card. This is a one trick pony that can't pay for itself.
Great
Gtx Titan z useless now get a Titan x with 12gb for only $999
3 x the price of a gtx 970, performs worse..........
Haha I wish I could have a rig like this!
Fapple
Like that shirt
in it to win it. hit me back let me know...hope it works i gotta go
sigh ~ a thousand bucks gpu cant even play games at 4k with 60FPS
and yet a 700 dollar one can get 70-80
I dont care how well it performs, the cooler still looks ugly...
Oh yea, and i'll never be able to afford it anyway
Edit: A 980 didn't make sense compared to the 970, how do they expect this to sell?
Jacob eMatt it will sell
they would not release it if it would not sell
dreiundneunzig12 Didn't they say that about the titan Z? And it ended up selling so little they had to cut the price in half?
But the Z is a dual gpu,also it costed 3000$,and at the time the Z came out the 295x2 was cheaper and better which just smashed it
Also with the hunger for resolution we have right now,having even 5k displays two or three of these will get good framerates so it will do better than the titan z
AbstractGaming Are you high? Titan Z still way outperforms this. Not to mention the Titan X is made irrelevant by the 980 for only a little more than half the price. And 5k gaming isn't going to happen for several more generations. This card won't get good performance on a single 5k display, let alone multiple. 5k is double the pixels of 4k, and this card isn't nearly enough of a power boost over the 980 for that.
i like how ther comments are
just order one
and it looks sexy
Titan x, "meh".
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Woo, more overpriced nvidia cards.
yay?