Wonderful - thanks for making this particular comparison, it was really great to get an experienced comparison. At 6’1”, those pegs may turn out to be a bit too much for me.🤔 One thing that always concerns me when I think of switching from the R1250R to the S1000R is the comparative lack of torque with the S1000’s 4-cylinder…any concerns in that department when just riding ordinary roads in town and country? Do you find yourself missing it on the S1000R? Does it get tiresome to have to wind it out to feel that same torque you get immediately with the 1250, or is it more quickly progressive in actual feel (if not dyna stats)?
Thanks, I’m glad you liked it 😊. 6’1”, you might feel a little scrunched on the SKR. I don’t find ANY lack of torque on the 1000. Nothing is tiresome with this bike, it’s thrilling to me, while being incredibly smooth and refined. Worth every penny. Have you thought about the XR? I think it’s the same engine?? Yet taller.
@@AmenCornerRider No, not looking for a sports tourer…I love my R1250R, but just sometimes wonder if something a bit more sporty (but not aggressively sporty ergos like the RR) might be a bit more fun. More often, though, the intoxicating torque and comfortable ergos of the 1250 nixes my wandering eye. Thanks again for the comparison…very interesting and gives me food for thought.
I am a pensioner and have been riding bikes for years and have a R1250R. Depends what you want. On the road a R1250R will keep pace with all sports bikes, not to mention superb low down torque, and from experience will be more enjoyable and comfortable to ride than a sports bike (had a suzuki GSR750 once). However sports bike have the advantage at higher speeds, such as the track. Depends what you want really. For me I like to ride my bike on the road,
I am on the contrary switching from S1000R to R1250R. Loved every single minute on S1K but had to let it go and get something with more comfort, luggage space, better on fuel, low chain maintenance, cleaner back end, lower insurance and more time to enjoy the scenery. Found myself always wanting to rev the engine to listen to the beautiful sound of the high revs but then I risked losing my license. Didn't really have to use quick shifter 99% of the time in 2/3 gear. I go on long trips a lot so it makes sense for the switch. I like your tinted screen on you 1250, would you recommend and advise what screen is it please?
Many of the reasons why I traded my S1000R in for my new R9T 😬. I have decided I want to be comfortable ALL the time. The R1250R is much better for your long trips. Congrats!! The windscreen is a Z Technik Vstream sport windshield. Pricey, but the best.
Hey amen corner rider, I am intrigued that you sold these bikes and then went to the M1 R and now the MTO9 9SP. I’m really curious to hear you reflect on your experiences not considering Price. I am just guessing that you enjoyed the overall experience of the arch 1250 R the most because there’s no chain maintenance and it’s got so much torque. True, with that flat parallel boxer engine, it signals old technology. But truly, what is your honest opinion between that R1250 R and the M1000 R? Thanks so much for all you do!
Hey there, thanks for a great question. My honest opinion.... they are BOTH such great bikes! If I were rich, I would have BOTH of these bikes in my garage. (retired P.E. teacher...not rich 😅). The R1250r is comfortable, multi-purpose, unique bike. The M1000r was my all time favorite bike and if I was a much younger person it would still be in my garage. The engines are so different with these two bikes, but the M was a thrill to ride, it's so perfect! There is no doubt I will have another BMW down the road, (maybe soon 😁). The Yamaha is ticking all the right boxes for now, I love it.
Love your bikes, I also have a 1000r, get comfortable with your controls use that horn when someone starts to pull out in front of you, you narrowly avoided an accident there. Remember everyone has a cell phone and they are distracted! Also try closing the throttle ever so slightly and open it as you are using quick shifter , it takes some practice but the results are fluid shifts at any rpm or gear… be safe and enjoy 😊
Great video Alex. That ergonomic bit at the start was the best. Knee position is different than the previous S1000R. On this video though I couldn't see your feet or your knees that well. Could you do another one showing that better. Your garage looks nice!
Thanks Adele! Yes, the knee position is higher on the new generation. I will film myself again for you. The garage is remodeled and it’s so much nicer. Thanks for noticing. Hope you are feeling better.
Do you just have every naked BMW? I’ve seen you with the R ninet, r1250r, and now a new s1000r. Cool that you get to experience each one. They’re all interesting, but I’m seriously considering the S1000r. Definitely the most exciting of the bunch.
Thanks for the video. I just turned 40 and am looking to upgrade from my F800R. Thinking the S1000 for a few years before I settle into an R bike when I have more time for long distance riding. Would you say the S1000 is ok for day rides? Say 3-400 miles on occasion? Does the small fly screen you got for the S1000 make any noticeable difference?
I love the S1000r. Having said that, at 65 years young, I am way more comfortable on my R1250 R. The S1000 is great for shorter rides for me and I always take the 1250 on longer rides. The seat is a bit hard on the S1000 and the body position is more aggressive. My hands and wrists do bother me on longer rides, but again, I am older 😎. The 1250 is a great all around bike. The S1000 is a thrill. Hope this helps. Oh, the fly screen helps a little, mostly got it to protect my TFT screen.
Hello from Munich in Bavaria/Germany. Excuse my bad english. I drive a R1250R HP and its awesome. Nice Video with two cool bikes. I wish you a lot of fun. Until next time. Ciao Hans from Munich
The smoothness of a 4-cylinder engine on lower speeds are so much better. 2-cylinder engines and you need to shit down all the time. quickshifter in the R1250R is unusable until 4th hear imo.
Hi Franky from Costa Rica! It is a ZTechnik V stream sport windshield. It was pricey, $360 and I don’t remember what website I purchased it from. Try Revzilla.
Hello Madame, all right we all know that the s 1000 r is much more powerful; BUT in super fast pace do you think that the R 1250 R will touch down its headers and will put a limit to the lean angle???
Fun factor: at the TEFFT and POMEROY traffic light you were .4 mile from my house. You turned left and were only two blocks away. Why didn't you stop to say "Howdy?"
Both are great bikes. The real question is, which one are you riding out to Tazewell, Virginia next July to ride with us at VAMM™22? Look at you go, girl. I remember when I was thinking you could get off the bike and push it faster than you were riding it, not anymore. Hahahaha. Hi to Gary.
Great video mate. I have a 2021 R1250R, BMW emailed me recently with loads of good deals on the S1000R and I'm very tempted, looking at the M sport with the fancy wheels etc. Question is.... if you could only keep 1 what would it be as I'm very torn between my R1250R and the new S1000R! 😱
Oh my.... don't ask me that question 😆. That's why I have both bikes, they are the best of both worlds. Wow.... I guess if you put a gun to my head, being that I'm 65 years old, the R1250R would be more practical to keep as it is the perfect all-around-bike. It's so comfortable and has all the goodies I want. The S1000R is off the charts amazing with a sportier feel. Just get a 2nd job and get both. You'll thank me 🤣 (Let me know what you decide).
@@AmenCornerRider 😂😂😂 Well I do love the comfort of the R1250R but miss the sporty madness and lightness of a super naked so it's a difficult one! I'm 42 so feel I should really still have some sportiness left in my knees and wrists! 😂 Although I do think I'd add risers like you have as I'd miss the comfort a little bit! Il book a test ride which should help me decide... But I'm more swayed towards the S1000R I must admit on looks and madness alone! 😎🤣
@@robchipperfield3740 Yes, go ride it. I know what you'll decide. The S1000R will have you screaming in your helmet...."I want this bike"!! It's very light, (I put Arrow headers on mine, just WOW). I can't say enough good things about it. Talk to me after your test ride.
@@AmenCornerRider thanks for your help mate much appreciated. Yes that's the other thing... The R1250R is too quiet! I have an SC Project exhaust without the baffle and it's still too quiet, commuting to work all year round through London isn't much fun when all the other vehicles can't hear you coming! Hearing your arrow headers definitely helped in that department 🤣 Will keep you posted, thanks again 👌🏽
Well after all the drama of what bike to get, keep the R1250R or get the S1000R.... I ended up taking an S1000RR for a test ride and fell in love so have just had a 2022 S1000RR delivered! 😍 Crazily enough it's actually very comfortable and a very smooth ride, really happy with it! Thanks for your advice, ride safe and all the best 😎
Yassou!! (I am Greek 🇬🇷, Mom was born there and came to the US at age 13. Dad born here in the US. My only trip Greece was when I was 5 years old)! The screen is a Z Technik Vstream sport windshield. Thanks for watching.
@@AmenCornerRider nice to here that… I live in Crete … for sure you have to visit again Greece…by the way the presentation of the bikes is perfect. Hopefully I will have mine R1250R in the next 2 months ..coming from the Gs Family I hope i will not regret it ….
@@user-it6il1ph2s My husband has a 750 GS and loves it. The 1250r is much more powerful, refined and thrilling. You will love it. Can you send me some baklava? Just kidding 🤣. My moms baklava was the best!!
Yeah, but the Harley is all torque and no horse power. That is like a dog that will bark real mean, but won't bite...her Beemer both barks and bites. Hahahahahaha.
Hi what risers did you go with? how much rise and pul back? and did you have to change any cables and or hoses for longer ones? Thanks in advance, ride safe
Hi there! The risers are called "Rox". I got very close to 3" rise and about 1 1/2 inch pull back. The dealer installed for me and as far as I know, no cable change. There was just barely enough slack to pull it off. Thanks for watching!
you should upshift to 5th or even 6th, no need to hold high revs on the freeway. Thanks for the comparo.
Thanks!
That’s what I thought. I ride London, England and can be in 6th at 35/40. Just wasting fuel right there! 😂
Wonderful - thanks for making this particular comparison, it was really great to get an experienced comparison. At 6’1”, those pegs may turn out to be a bit too much for me.🤔
One thing that always concerns me when I think of switching from the R1250R to the S1000R is the comparative lack of torque with the S1000’s 4-cylinder…any concerns in that department when just riding ordinary roads in town and country? Do you find yourself missing it on the S1000R? Does it get tiresome to have to wind it out to feel that same torque you get immediately with the 1250, or is it more quickly progressive in actual feel (if not dyna stats)?
Thanks, I’m glad you liked it 😊. 6’1”, you might feel a little scrunched on the SKR. I don’t find ANY lack of torque on the 1000. Nothing is tiresome with this bike, it’s thrilling to me, while being incredibly smooth and refined. Worth every penny. Have you thought about the XR? I think it’s the same engine?? Yet taller.
@@AmenCornerRider No, not looking for a sports tourer…I love my R1250R, but just sometimes wonder if something a bit more sporty (but not aggressively sporty ergos like the RR) might be a bit more fun. More often, though, the intoxicating torque and comfortable ergos of the 1250 nixes my wandering eye. Thanks again for the comparison…very interesting and gives me food for thought.
@@pbofan Yes, the RR would be very uncomfortable for me. Glad I could help. One way to find out….test ride one😬
I am a pensioner and have been riding bikes for years and have a R1250R. Depends what you want. On the road a R1250R will keep pace with all sports bikes, not to mention superb low down torque, and from experience will be more enjoyable and comfortable to ride than a sports bike (had a suzuki GSR750 once). However sports bike have the advantage at higher speeds, such as the track. Depends what you want really. For me I like to ride my bike on the road,
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Wow thank you. I am trying to decide between these two now. Hard to find a dealer allowing a demo ride where I’m at.
I'm so glad it helped. Both are wonderful bikes. The S1000R has a much sportier riding position.
I am on the contrary switching from S1000R to R1250R. Loved every single minute on S1K but had to let it go and get something with more comfort, luggage space, better on fuel, low chain maintenance, cleaner back end, lower insurance and more time to enjoy the scenery. Found myself always wanting to rev the engine to listen to the beautiful sound of the high revs but then I risked losing my license. Didn't really have to use quick shifter 99% of the time in 2/3 gear. I go on long trips a lot so it makes sense for the switch. I like your tinted screen on you 1250, would you recommend and advise what screen is it please?
Many of the reasons why I traded my S1000R in for my new R9T 😬. I have decided I want to be comfortable ALL the time. The R1250R is much better for your long trips. Congrats!! The windscreen is a Z Technik Vstream sport windshield. Pricey, but the best.
Hey amen corner rider, I am intrigued that you sold these bikes and then went to the M1 R and now the MTO9 9SP. I’m really curious to hear you reflect on your experiences not considering Price. I am just guessing that you enjoyed the overall experience of the arch 1250 R the most because there’s no chain maintenance and it’s got so much torque. True, with that flat parallel boxer engine, it signals old technology. But truly, what is your honest opinion between that R1250 R and the M1000 R? Thanks so much for all you do!
Hey there, thanks for a great question. My honest opinion.... they are BOTH such great bikes! If I were rich, I would have BOTH of these bikes in my garage. (retired P.E. teacher...not rich 😅). The R1250r is comfortable, multi-purpose, unique bike. The M1000r was my all time favorite bike and if I was a much younger person it would still be in my garage. The engines are so different with these two bikes, but the M was a thrill to ride, it's so perfect! There is no doubt I will have another BMW down the road, (maybe soon 😁). The Yamaha is ticking all the right boxes for now, I love it.
Love your bikes, I also have a 1000r, get comfortable with your controls use that horn when someone starts to pull out in front of you, you narrowly avoided an accident there. Remember everyone has a cell phone and they are distracted! Also try closing the throttle ever so slightly and open it as you are using quick shifter , it takes some practice but the results are fluid shifts at any rpm or gear… be safe and enjoy 😊
Shifting will feel a lot different on that parallel twin
Sorry, it’s actually a flat twin or boxer to be technically correct
@@chazzs4365 Yes, flat twin aka boxer. Thanks for the advice, much appreciated.
Probably better to not use your horn and find an escape path
"That's how it's done son" ha ha - love it!
Haha, you just can't help it with this bike.
Great video Alex. That ergonomic bit at the start was the best. Knee position is different than the previous S1000R. On this video though I couldn't see your feet or your knees that well. Could you do another one showing that better. Your garage looks nice!
Thanks Adele! Yes, the knee position is higher on the new generation. I will film myself again for you. The garage is remodeled and it’s so much nicer. Thanks for noticing. Hope you are feeling better.
Choices, choices... hard to go wrong with either!
So true!🏍😎
Do you just have every naked BMW? I’ve seen you with the R ninet, r1250r, and now a new s1000r. Cool that you get to experience each one. They’re all interesting, but I’m seriously considering the S1000r. Definitely the most exciting of the bunch.
It is the most exciting of the BMW bunch. Sadly, I traded in my S1000R to buy the R9T. I needed a more comfortable bike and the R9T fit me perfectly.
Looks wise , it's the s1000r for me
Excellent decision!
Thanks for the video. I just turned 40 and am looking to upgrade from my F800R. Thinking the S1000 for a few years before I settle into an R bike when I have more time for long distance riding. Would you say the S1000 is ok for day rides? Say 3-400 miles on occasion? Does the small fly screen you got for the S1000 make any noticeable difference?
I love the S1000r. Having said that, at 65 years young, I am way more comfortable on my R1250 R. The S1000 is great for shorter rides for me and I always take the 1250 on longer rides. The seat is a bit hard on the S1000 and the body position is more aggressive. My hands and wrists do bother me on longer rides, but again, I am older 😎. The 1250 is a great all around bike. The S1000 is a thrill. Hope this helps. Oh, the fly screen helps a little, mostly got it to protect my TFT screen.
Great reflections Amen Corner 😊. I think I WANT an M1000r….no one NEEDS one 😂
Both my dream bike!! 😍
If I win the lottery, I’ll buy them for you 😊
@@AmenCornerRider I’m about to buy the s1000r. If I win the lotto I’ll pay off my loan! Lol
@@andy3d1 Good luck!! 😉
Hello from Munich in Bavaria/Germany. Excuse my bad english. I drive a R1250R HP and its awesome. Nice Video with two cool bikes. I wish you a lot of fun. Until next time. Ciao Hans from Munich
Hello Hans and thank you for watching my channel😎. Love my BMWs
The smoothness of a 4-cylinder engine on lower speeds are so much better. 2-cylinder engines and you need to shit down all the time. quickshifter in the R1250R is unusable until 4th hear imo.
The quick shifter on the 1250R is very clunky until 4th gear. I always pull the clutch through 3rd.
Thanks for the comparison. What screen do you have on the 1250R and does it give you any turbulence?
The screen is the best! It's a Z Technik Vstream sport windscreen. It's a bit pricey, but worth it to me.
Thx for windscreen info. Just ordered a 1250R and looking for that extra wind protection on highways without taking away from the looks of the bike 👍
Thank you for the video , where did you get the windshield?…thank you…greetings from Costa Rica
Hi Franky from Costa Rica! It is a ZTechnik V stream sport windshield. It was pricey, $360 and I don’t remember what website I purchased it from. Try Revzilla.
Thank you very much, ver kind
Hello Madame, all right we all know that the s 1000 r is much more powerful; BUT in super fast pace do you think that the R 1250 R will touch down its headers and will put a limit to the lean angle???
I don’t have the skill set to lean that far yet 🤓 but I would say yes, limited.
Fun factor: at the TEFFT and POMEROY traffic light you were .4 mile from my house. You turned left and were only two blocks away. Why didn't you stop to say "Howdy?"
Well, I would never stop by unannounced, but will definitely 👋🏼 wave 😆
@@AmenCornerRider I don't see why not, as the police and FBI regularly do it!
@@Boysenberr 🤣😆👏🏼🤣😂
Both are great bikes. The real question is, which one are you riding out to Tazewell, Virginia next July to ride with us at VAMM™22? Look at you go, girl. I remember when I was thinking you could get off the bike and push it faster than you were riding it, not anymore. Hahahaha. Hi to Gary.
Whooeee, that would be a long ride!! Gary and I would have to buy some big ole road glides for that. Thanks for noticing. I’m practicing 😎🏍
Nice stuff,i like it.greets from germany
Thanks so much! Welcome 🤗
If you could only have 1 of them, which would it be?
I sold my R1250r and my R9T to get one bike…. My new M1000r 😎🤗
@@AmenCornerRiderwild!!! Then sold it for the value-minded MT09SP
@@forestmotoadventures Yeah, and that’s another story 😐
Great video mate.
I have a 2021 R1250R, BMW emailed me recently with loads of good deals on the S1000R and I'm very tempted, looking at the M sport with the fancy wheels etc. Question is.... if you could only keep 1 what would it be as I'm very torn between my R1250R and the new S1000R! 😱
Oh my.... don't ask me that question 😆. That's why I have both bikes, they are the best of both worlds. Wow.... I guess if you put a gun to my head, being that I'm 65 years old, the R1250R would be more practical to keep as it is the perfect all-around-bike. It's so comfortable and has all the goodies I want. The S1000R is off the charts amazing with a sportier feel. Just get a 2nd job and get both. You'll thank me 🤣 (Let me know what you decide).
@@AmenCornerRider 😂😂😂
Well I do love the comfort of the R1250R but miss the sporty madness and lightness of a super naked so it's a difficult one! I'm 42 so feel I should really still have some sportiness left in my knees and wrists! 😂 Although I do think I'd add risers like you have as I'd miss the comfort a little bit! Il book a test ride which should help me decide... But I'm more swayed towards the S1000R I must admit on looks and madness alone! 😎🤣
@@robchipperfield3740 Yes, go ride it. I know what you'll decide. The S1000R will have you screaming in your helmet...."I want this bike"!! It's very light, (I put Arrow headers on mine, just WOW). I can't say enough good things about it. Talk to me after your test ride.
@@AmenCornerRider thanks for your help mate much appreciated.
Yes that's the other thing... The R1250R is too quiet! I have an SC Project exhaust without the baffle and it's still too quiet, commuting to work all year round through London isn't much fun when all the other vehicles can't hear you coming! Hearing your arrow headers definitely helped in that department 🤣
Will keep you posted, thanks again 👌🏽
Well after all the drama of what bike to get, keep the R1250R or get the S1000R.... I ended up taking an S1000RR for a test ride and fell in love so have just had a 2022 S1000RR delivered! 😍
Crazily enough it's actually very comfortable and a very smooth ride, really happy with it! Thanks for your advice, ride safe and all the best 😎
goodmorning from Greece... which is the screen that you have put on the R1250R? Seems very preety and convinient!!!!
Yassou!! (I am Greek 🇬🇷, Mom was born there and came to the US at age 13. Dad born here in the US. My only trip Greece was when I was 5 years old)! The screen is a Z Technik Vstream sport windshield. Thanks for watching.
@@AmenCornerRider nice to here that… I live in Crete … for sure you have to visit again Greece…by the way the presentation of the bikes is perfect. Hopefully I will have mine R1250R in the next 2 months ..coming from the Gs Family I hope i will not regret it ….
@@user-it6il1ph2s My husband has a 750 GS and loves it. The 1250r is much more powerful, refined and thrilling. You will love it. Can you send me some baklava? Just kidding 🤣. My moms baklava was the best!!
@@AmenCornerRider I used to ride R1200GS LC ... powerful enough.. but I decided that an all around bike fits me best ... baklava sent 😁😁😁
@@user-it6il1ph2s eferesto ☺️
What screen do you use on the 1250r - many thanks. Ian
The best screen!! It’s a Z Technik Vstream sport windshield. $360 😋
Don't worry, soon enough I'll get her on one of my Harley's, and she'll really compare torque! LOL!
Are Harleys torquie?😄. Barbie!!🏍
Yeah, but the Harley is all torque and no horse power. That is like a dog that will bark real mean, but won't bite...her Beemer both barks and bites. Hahahahahaha.
@@TennRides I love that 😆.
@@TennRides Ok, but stack on another 80lbs of gear, hitch a loaded trailer, and plunk your better half on the P-pad. Now who has the barky bite? LOL!
@@SLO-Ride Hahahaha
Hi what risers did you go with? how much rise and pul back? and did you have to change any cables and or hoses for longer ones? Thanks in advance, ride safe
Hi there! The risers are called "Rox". I got very close to 3" rise and about 1 1/2 inch pull back. The dealer installed for me and as far as I know, no cable change. There was just barely enough slack to pull it off. Thanks for watching!
@@AmenCornerRider Thanks- I'll research the "Rox" BTW- do you get a buzz on the bars above 4-5K RPM to the point where it blurs the mirrors?
@@lennykibbs260 Not that I have noticed. The mirrors do get blurry at higher rpms. I’m getting new mirrors soon.
Hi,
What windscreen did you go with on this bike R1250R?
Thanks 🤙🏍️🇨🇦
Hi! It’s a ZTechnik sport screen. One of the best screens ever!!
@@AmenCornerRider
Thanks for the prompt reply.
I take it would be the Z2353 then.
@Paul Guthenberg Z2356 sport windscreen. Pricey but so nice.
How do you not open it up.
I do... when no one is looking 🤓
Is the wind screen in front of the TFT display on the R1250R?
Yes, it protects the TFT screen.
they need to give that head light design of the s1000r on the hideous R1250R.. ill take the shaft drive.. no more chain maintenance!
Love not having to clean a chain!🙌🏼
What windscreen is that on the 1250?
It’s a Z ZTechnik Vstream sport windshield. It’s very nice.
😍
I could hardly hear you. You need to fire your sound engineer
Sorry, camera on a tripod too far away. Trying to get both bikes in the shot. I’m a small channel without fancy equipment 😌