✨ Update for the lefties (and people like me who try to mouse with their left hand)! 🤚 LEFT HAND ERGONOMIC MOUSE REVIEW: ruclips.net/video/x3BaBU92r5M/видео.html
I have been searching for a review with small hands!!! Thanks a lot!!! It was super useful and you saved me from buying the bigger one since no one mentioned it was so big
I had the original M618 since 2012 to 2018. Switched to Microsoft Ergonomic sculpt combo. Now, I'm switching back to M618 series. In my opinion the best one there is.
Good to see a M618 video! I also have all three of these mice. And a selection of trackballs and other mice. And a Wacom tablet. I have yet to find anything to beat the original Delux M618 (now the BU/GX). The best and most comfortable mouse I've used and the mouse I use daily. I think the secret is the way the fingers curve around the front. I hope Delux never stop making it!
I have a Kensington Expert and a Kensington Orbit (the one with the scroll ring). Both are OK, but I find they make my hands and fingers sore after a day's use. I think they require too much finger movement. I also have a Logitech M570 thumb trackball which is more fiddly to use and I never mastered it. I've tried expensive mice like the Posturite Penguin and the R-Go HE, but nothing beats the M618. I always go back to the M618. I set DPI to 1600 and Windows pointer speed to maximum in order to minimize the amount of mouse movement needed. I'll post an update if I ever find anything better than the M618 original.@@Krys579
@@johnk4182 did you find anything that can finally beat the m618? sidenote; the m618 now has a rechargeable wireless version, if ever you have it ~ can you use it wired without help of 2.4 dongle or bluetooth?
I love having a wireless mouse, been using them for 11 years now. On the Logitech brand, the batteries last 18-24 months, so changing is not tedious. I did get some cheap mice for my kids, and yes, changing the batteries every couple months is frustrating. However, replacing batteries is better than replacing mice after the kids kill the wires.
5:58 Hi Krystal, great video! We sell these mice in The Netherlands. The mouse you refer to has protective plastics. It looks like you did not take them off before using. The gliders beneath the protective plastics are of good quality.
ergowerken.nl ah yes! I had no clue that it had that on it and now that I’ve taken it off my experience is even better than it was before 😁😁 thanks for pointing this out! Saves me buying a new one again 💕
@@Krys579 despite removing the protective film off the the gliders and should they wear prematurely, one possible cause could be the surface you are using your mouse on. Try using a smooth(fabric) mouse pad, as this will definitely protect the gliders and prolong their life. I have both the wired and wireless version of the Delux M618 Plus, and both have clip on palm rest, which I use at home and at work respectively; for quite awhile now. The palm rest allows me to move the mouse just using wrist movement. I should buy some more as spares, as Delux might discontinue their production of this particular model.
Thank you so much for pointing this out Ergo! I just got mine today and wondered why they were so sticky to the surface area! xD I didn't realize they had protective plastics on them! but now the mouse moves smoother than ever! (I feel like they should include this in the instruction manual for noobies like us, haha.) ...And great review regardless Krystal! :)
It's great to see the effort in making this review. It will work stronger if you were a bit more objective about the good and bad. It's good that you have preferences and that your hands are smaller but your viewers might be bigger people like me. A little more detail would be great. I know that some of the cheaper vertical mice have a crappy left click which pushes the mouse cursor off to the left.
This Chinese company doesn’t care about the warranty. I had M618 and it was broken after 8 months of office use. after I contacted the company, they were unwilling to replace or repair it. So if anyone plans to buy their products, be prepared that you are on your own after the purchase
Hey nice video! Is it possible to save the settings of the mouse buttons in the mouse itself? I believe M168 BU is customizable buttons. I'm planing to use the buttons as copy and paste for my work computer, but I'm not allowed to install softwares due to admin rights, I would do the set up in my personal computer and then use it in my work computer if possible
I just ordered one M618 mini and another for my left hand. One site recommended I choose by the size of my palm and offer a chart to compare. I don't plan on using them for gaming but I hope they are reliable for my work.
Update on the mini. I have had my mini for about 6 months. The roller wheel sometimes doesn't know if its going up or down. To take apart looks like a pain. I like the vertical mouse but the roller skipping all the time is not worth buying from this company again.
Hello! May I know your hand size? I'm thinking of getting one myself and it would be nice to have a standard regarding what mouse will fit comfortably in my hand. Thank you!!
Very good video. Understand it was a long time ago in tech years but any idea if the M618 BU buttons are programable? Doesn't seem to have any software automatically installed.
Doesn't the mini hurt your palm after quite some time? I'm about to buy one of these but I'm still confused whether to go for the mini or the regular one.
Great video! Would you say that the noise the buttons make on the M618 BU are like normal mouses? That annoying click? Or are they quiet? Thank you very much!
Thank you! My wrist has started to reallllly hurt recently, and as someone who lives in Australia, I'd come across these mice, but wasn't sure where to get them from!!
I saw that drivers are exe files :( Were you able to download the mini driver for Mac? WineBottler converter is not working for me because it's outdated :(
Hi! When you're using your favourite one with the palm rest attached and your hand is resting on it, can you move the mouse with your wrist only like you would with a regular mouse or you have to move your whole arm?
@@Krys579 Thanks! Doesn't your shoulder get tired and sore as a result? And another question if I may: does your thumb accidentally click those buttons sometimes?
On the M618 BU, is the scroll wheel pretty durable? I have a similar one by J-Tech I've been using for less than a year and the scroll wheel feels like it is wearing out.
Jordan Graham Mine hasn’t failed me in the slightest. The pads at the bottom are wearing down though, even after I’ve taken the plastic cover off them. If you buy this one just make sure you have a mouse pad :) everything else is 👌
@@Krys579 did you use this mouse with a mousepad or on the bare table surface? asking cos i would like to get this mouse but i do not want to have to replace it over and over
No disrespect, MS, but if your camera would have actually focused on the reviewed items, it would have been MUCH more helpful. Your cute, certainly, but this video would be called a "vanity" piece, focusing more on your articulation & gestures, rather than the products. If you wish to increase your views & subs in the future, my critique might serve that purpose for you. Buona Fortuna!
Eric thanks for the feedback! That’s one I haven’t heard yet. The good quality mics are quite expensive so since I was just starting out, I was using the camera mic :) new mic in most of my newer vids!
It’s supposed to be able to be used for gaming, but I don’t game so I’m not 100% sure. However, if you do pick one up, it will take a bit of time getting used to mousing a different way so don’t get discouraged if it seems hard to use at first.
Hey! It was definitely a bit strange at first but took maybe 20 mins to get oriented so it's not a very steep learning curve! Give it a couple days to really get used to - helps if you have the one that's right for your hand tho coz some I wasn't able to use altogether (just felt really weird/my palm was causing too much drag on the table).
Arent you using a mouse incorrectly? You should be able to move the mouse with the palm resting and not moving around. That could give you mouse shoulder. Control only with fingers. If you cant reach from one end to the other on the screen with the cursor, just lift the mouse up with fingers only, like if you are stroking a dog.
EVriderDK I think what you’re referring to in mouse shoulder is when you incorrectly mouse with your arm away from your body. That puts a lot of strain on your shoulder. If you hold it in an ergonomic position, it’s better to be using larger muscles as the smaller ones get more tired more easily. Only using your fingers would do more damage, especially if your mouse is heavy.
Thanks. I have a delux M618 Wireless, it's so useful, I love but a few times ago I had some troubles with it, The sinal between mouse and dongle sometimes off and I'm getting nervous with this. I think I'll buy a new Delux M618, this time I'll buy the plus one with cable.
You need to learn how to review stuff. Point 1 : Write down what you have to say and practice that in front of the mirror a few times before you make a video
![DELUX M618DB Wireless Ergonomic/Vertical Mouse [REVIEW]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/kNWH9UprrKk/mqdefault.jpg)
✨ Update for the lefties (and people like me who try to mouse with their left hand)! 🤚
LEFT HAND ERGONOMIC MOUSE REVIEW:
ruclips.net/video/x3BaBU92r5M/видео.html
How big are your hands tho? Might help me decide cause im not sure if i half to buy the mini or not
I have been searching for a review with small hands!!! Thanks a lot!!! It was super useful and you saved me from buying the bigger one since no one mentioned it was so big
Glad I could help! The trial and error was not fun 😂
Thank you for the support! I’m so surprised at how well this video did :O let me know if you want to see more related to ergonomics or RSI ❤️
I had the original M618 since 2012 to 2018. Switched to Microsoft Ergonomic sculpt combo. Now, I'm switching back to M618 series. In my opinion the best one there is.
did you have mini or plus
Good to see a M618 video! I also have all three of these mice. And a selection of trackballs and other mice. And a Wacom tablet. I have yet to find anything to beat the original Delux M618 (now the BU/GX). The best and most comfortable mouse I've used and the mouse I use daily. I think the secret is the way the fingers curve around the front. I hope Delux never stop making it!
John K same! Stockpiling to make sure I don’t run out of them AHAHAHA how do you find the trackball?
I have a Kensington Expert and a Kensington Orbit (the one with the scroll ring). Both are OK, but I find they make my hands and fingers sore after a day's use. I think they require too much finger movement. I also have a Logitech M570 thumb trackball which is more fiddly to use and I never mastered it. I've tried expensive mice like the Posturite Penguin and the R-Go HE, but nothing beats the M618. I always go back to the M618. I set DPI to 1600 and Windows pointer speed to maximum in order to minimize the amount of mouse movement needed. I'll post an update if I ever find anything better than the M618 original.@@Krys579
John K awesome! I was thinking of looking at trackballs but tried one once and felt like it would be a little tiring. Thanks for letting me know :)
@@johnk4182 did you find anything that can finally beat the m618? sidenote; the m618 now has a rechargeable wireless version, if ever you have it ~ can you use it wired without help of 2.4 dongle or bluetooth?
I love having a wireless mouse, been using them for 11 years now. On the Logitech brand, the batteries last 18-24 months, so changing is not tedious. I did get some cheap mice for my kids, and yes, changing the batteries every couple months is frustrating. However, replacing batteries is better than replacing mice after the kids kill the wires.
Oooh good tip for parents!
5:58 Hi Krystal, great video! We sell these mice in The Netherlands. The mouse you refer to has protective plastics. It looks like you did not take them off before using. The gliders beneath the protective plastics are of good quality.
ergowerken.nl ah yes! I had no clue that it had that on it and now that I’ve taken it off my experience is even better than it was before 😁😁 thanks for pointing this out! Saves me buying a new one again 💕
@@Krys579 despite removing the protective film off the the gliders and should they wear prematurely, one possible cause could be the surface you are using your mouse on. Try using a smooth(fabric) mouse pad, as this will definitely protect the gliders and prolong their life. I have both the wired and wireless version of the Delux M618 Plus, and both have clip on palm rest, which I use at home and at work respectively; for quite awhile now. The palm rest allows me to move the mouse just using wrist movement. I should buy some more as spares, as Delux might discontinue their production of this particular model.
Thank you so much for pointing this out Ergo! I just got mine today and wondered why they were so sticky to the surface area! xD
I didn't realize they had protective plastics on them! but now the mouse moves smoother than ever!
(I feel like they should include this in the instruction manual for noobies like us, haha.)
...And great review regardless Krystal! :)
Would've been nice, if you would've showed the mice "in action". That way one could've seen how the arm really behaves.
It's great to see the effort in making this review. It will work stronger if you were a bit more objective about the good and bad. It's good that you have preferences and that your hands are smaller but your viewers might be bigger people like me.
A little more detail would be great. I know that some of the cheaper vertical mice have a crappy left click which pushes the mouse cursor off to the left.
This Chinese company doesn’t care about the warranty. I had M618 and it was broken after 8 months of office use. after I contacted the company, they were unwilling to replace or repair it. So if anyone plans to buy their products, be prepared that you are on your own after the purchase
Stein Ein Yeah i agree with this - there’s no real warranty but so far I’ve been lucky!
Thanks Krystal. very helpful comments.
Hey nice video!
Is it possible to save the settings of the mouse buttons in the mouse itself? I believe M168 BU is customizable buttons.
I'm planing to use the buttons as copy and paste for my work computer, but I'm not allowed to install softwares due to admin rights, I would do the set up in my personal computer and then use it in my work computer if possible
I just ordered one M618 mini and another for my left hand. One site recommended I choose by the size of my palm and offer a chart to compare. I don't plan on using them for gaming but I hope they are reliable for my work.
Update on the mini. I have had my mini for about 6 months. The roller wheel sometimes doesn't know if its going up or down. To take apart looks like a pain. I like the vertical mouse but the roller skipping all the time is not worth buying from this company again.
Very useful video, especially considering the fluent English - I'm really thankful for this! Keep up the good work!
Yeah super fluent, for an aussie! Well being a Kiwi I would say that :)
Hello! May I know your hand size? I'm thinking of getting one myself and it would be nice to have a standard regarding what mouse will fit comfortably in my hand. Thank you!!
Very good video. Understand it was a long time ago in tech years but any idea if the M618 BU buttons are programable? Doesn't seem to have any software automatically installed.
Hi. Any idea where you can download the software for the M618PLUS? Thanks.
a review done, just right! no unnecesarry fuss! thanks!
Hi, apox. how big is your hand for reference? Thank you
About 13cm in length and maybe 8 or 9 palm width.
i have the mini ...i was skeptical ...but i was wrong..i love it ...
Doesn't the mini hurt your palm after quite some time? I'm about to buy one of these but I'm still confused whether to go for the mini or the regular one.
@@archy_jk no not at all
@boredafgamer u think kids can use it?
Great video! As someone with small hands as well this was so helpful before I bought a mouse :) and the prices are great!
I bought and returned all Delux mouse's only I liked was Delux M910 , which discontinued now .
Thank you for the review, definitely going with the M618 non-RGB!
regards
Very informative. Does the delux mouse have horizontal scroll capability?
Hello can the wireless delux vertical mice can be converted into wired mouse when the battery is low??
Great video! Would you say that the noise the buttons make on the M618 BU are like normal mouses? That annoying click? Or are they quiet? Thank you very much!
I just ordered M618 gx because of this review. Hopefully it will fit and work based on my preference as well.
Heyyy how is it going with the mouse?
May I know your palm size? Width?
Any help on reprogramming the mini would be helpful. The software that comes with the mini doesn’t seem to work...
Hi, Krystal. Thank you for your review. Really, help me a lot. Is m618 bu silent click? Or is it only for m618 mini?
Not silent but it’s not very loud :)
What was the model no. Of the best mouse you rated out of the three ?
Thank you! My wrist has started to reallllly hurt recently, and as someone who lives in Australia, I'd come across these mice, but wasn't sure where to get them from!!
Thanks.. I really needed this advice
You’re so welcome!!
Great review! Btw, would you consider the BU/GX click sound as silent?
Thanks! No I wouldn’t but it’s not extremely loud either. Quite comparable to other regular nice I’ve used :)
Hi. How customizable is the RGB of the big one?
I saw that drivers are exe files :( Were you able to download the mini driver for Mac? WineBottler converter is not working for me because it's outdated :(
Hi, did you manage to find a solution for this?
Hi... The m618 mini has a type-c connector?
very knowledgeable, brief and natural speaker, I am very much enjoy watching this video
Hi! When you're using your favourite one with the palm rest attached and your hand is resting on it, can you move the mouse with your wrist only like you would with a regular mouse or you have to move your whole arm?
I think if my hand was bigger I could! I sometimes do but get tired easily
@@Krys579 Thanks! Doesn't your shoulder get tired and sore as a result? And another question if I may: does your thumb accidentally click those buttons sometimes?
How many hours to charge?
M618 GX is the Wireless version ?
M618 G is with USB C
On the mini, how can I use it plug in ??
Good reviews.. do u know what is bluetooth thing for mini?
The mini is connected via bluetooth to your computer :) Hope that answers the q!
On the M618 BU, is the scroll wheel pretty durable? I have a similar one by J-Tech I've been using for less than a year and the scroll wheel feels like it is wearing out.
Jordan Graham Mine hasn’t failed me in the slightest. The pads at the bottom are wearing down though, even after I’ve taken the plastic cover off them. If you buy this one just make sure you have a mouse pad :) everything else is 👌
@@Krys579 did you use this mouse with a mousepad or on the bare table surface? asking cos i would like to get this mouse but i do not want to have to replace it over and over
great video! Nice test :)
thank you!
Great review!
No disrespect, MS, but if your camera would have actually focused on the reviewed items, it would have been MUCH more helpful. Your cute, certainly, but this video would be called a "vanity" piece, focusing more on your articulation & gestures, rather than the products. If you wish to increase your views & subs in the future, my critique might serve that purpose for you. Buona Fortuna!
Thanks for the tip :)
You are good at editing!!! Keep it up and you will get there!!! GOD BLESS YOU AND I HOPE YOU HAD A HAPPY 2019!!! AND I LIKED AND SUBSCRIBED!!!
Thank you so much! I’ve subbed to you too :) looking forward to supporting each other through the new year hehe
@@Krys579 Thank you so much!!!
Does it work well with MacBook?
Yes!
Love the honesty! My hands are bigger than the "normal", but I'm considering buying this 5/5. Thanks for this video!
no worries! glad it helped!
Maybe you already read this, but consider using a closer microphone for clearer audio
Eric thanks for the feedback! That’s one I haven’t heard yet. The good quality mics are quite expensive so since I was just starting out, I was using the camera mic :) new mic in most of my newer vids!
@@Krys579 awesome! I just order my m618 because of your review!
Depends on your hand size, I have mine too, and it truly makes the difference.
Raul Sebastian Rivera Martinez yeah 100%!
Thanks for the review, question about the M618 BU, does the scroll wheel also act as a middle mouse button?
Good question! I think it can be set up as a middle button because you can definitely ‘click’ it, but I haven’t tried.
Yes, sure. It works as middle button by default
M618 Plus mouse has the ability to program buttons
Thanks Maam
Hi is it recommended for gaming? I've been eyeing to get it
It’s supposed to be able to be used for gaming, but I don’t game so I’m not 100% sure. However, if you do pick one up, it will take a bit of time getting used to mousing a different way so don’t get discouraged if it seems hard to use at first.
Can you compare with npet v20 which looks so similar to m618 plus or gxt 144 rexx which I have now :)?
lukas bernotas argh I don’t have that one, but if I get it I will :D thanks for the suggestion!
Hi Krystal! Just wondering, does it feel strange using a vertical mouse? How easy is it to get used to it?
Hey! It was definitely a bit strange at first but took maybe 20 mins to get oriented so it's not a very steep learning curve! Give it a couple days to really get used to - helps if you have the one that's right for your hand tho coz some I wasn't able to use altogether (just felt really weird/my palm was causing too much drag on the table).
Arent you using a mouse incorrectly? You should be able to move the mouse with the palm resting and not moving around. That could give you mouse shoulder. Control only with fingers. If you cant reach from one end to the other on the screen with the cursor, just lift the mouse up with fingers only, like if you are stroking a dog.
EVriderDK I think what you’re referring to in mouse shoulder is when you incorrectly mouse with your arm away from your body. That puts a lot of strain on your shoulder. If you hold it in an ergonomic position, it’s better to be using larger muscles as the smaller ones get more tired more easily. Only using your fingers would do more damage, especially if your mouse is heavy.
A really informative review 😄
I have the M618 Plus RGB. It's awesome. I have big hands and then it's perfect.
RAY NL thought it would be a better fit for big hands! Thanks for sharing 😊
Thank you very much!
Hi from Russia :)
is it compatible with mac?
Óscar G. Rodríguez A. Yep! They all are :)
Great video!!!
Thank you ❤️
@@Krys579 ....No prob. I actually got used to the mouse very quickly on the first day.
They re good enough to play casual games! But in competitive they arent anything new. Recommend Logitech. Anyways those are really good mouse
Ooh interesting! Thanks for the insight!
My mother bought me the plus rgb because of my big shape of 🙌.
I dont have rsi but I figure it's a good habit to get use to these. Going to try the M618 BU i think
Thanks. I have a delux M618 Wireless, it's so useful, I love but a few times ago I had some troubles with it, The sinal between mouse and dongle sometimes off and I'm getting nervous with this. I think I'll buy a new Delux M618, this time I'll buy the plus one with cable.
How have you fixed your connection issues? Mine will not connect and I updated the driver
@@hahafunny1322 I haven't fixed it, I've just buy another one regular ( with cable). It's work very well
Thank you!
wow good video.
Imran - A Mu'min thanks!
Спасибо за обзор
Hi. Thanks you from Moscow. Нужный контент нашёл у тебя. Спасибо ещё раз
who needs that much dpi
Maria Burrell 😂😂😂
Next time try to make mouses visible in the video.
David C. Thanks for the feedback. If you’re interested in ergonomic mice, check out this video: ruclips.net/video/x3BaBU92r5M/видео.html
hi krystal, u r interested, can i be your friends?
yunwei wu yassss ❤️❤️
A review without real review... :(
terrible scoring..but anyway thanks!
KiMoX you’re very welcome. How would you have created the scoring system?
All those bullshit mouses are worse than a regular mouse.
You need to learn how to review stuff. Point 1 : Write down what you have to say and practice that in front of the mirror a few times before you make a video
Thanks for your very insightful feedback. If you’re interested in ergonomic mice, check this out: ruclips.net/video/x3BaBU92r5M/видео.html
Hi. I have small hands. If the m618 mini the smaller model?
Yes it is! But I personally didn’t find it to be the most comfortable ~