Seahawks Bullied and get Their Lunch Money Taken by the Steelers at Home
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- Опубликовано: 31 дек 2023
- A troublesome loss for the Seahawks on a few different levels. They lose their chance to control their playoff destiny. They fall in a fashion familiar to many Seahawks fans over recent years. The same issues that have plagued the team, especially defensively came about once again this past Sunday against Pittsburgh. Here is my quick and dirty post game reaction.
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I dont understand "just give em the first down" soft zone scheme that we run either. It gets more frustrating when you consider the fact that our offense CANT ever convert 3rd & longs but we just give our opponents free first downs almost every time with that soft zone scheme. Whats the point of making the playoffs at this point? We need PC gone asap.
yep
Me either “as long as we don’t get beat over the top” just let them run the ball down our throats and complete passes over the middle
That 4th down QB sneak they were AWARDED was bs. He definitely was stopped short
@@LngLvdKing doesn’t change anything we still couldn’t stop the run
As a Steelers fan I’d say this is a good take when looking at it from Seattle’s POV. But Rudolph was GOOD last week too and he solves almost all the problems this offense had prior with Pickett and Trubisky. He stays in the pocket and allows the OL to block, our run scheme are much better since firing our OC, and Rudolph has a good arm and willing to stand in there as was evidenced with his throw to Pickens. Seattle wins this game if Pickett or Mitch play.
Mason Rudolph sucks dude , he beat an injured bengals team who isn’t even trying anymore get over it. Bro is a bum , he doesn’t solve your guys problems at all , logically speaking your not assessing it properly and getting tunnel vision based off a short period of work. Your team is trash
But…… that bum torched your team… go burgh and he’s only played 10 games. Give him the chance he hasn’t gotten. He’s played extremely well last couple games
Not to mention, Harris & Warren BOTH hit 1,000 yards on the season in this game. Not a lot of teams have had answers for these two guys.
Ahhhh, love when a brilliant football mind weighs in. Thanks, Daniel! You need your own show, I’d subscribe. More for the tears & excuses than anything else. 😂🤣😂🤣
@@danielw8620
Does your mommy know you're online being mean again, little boy?
Your up late tonight Brandon so am i. This loss was humiliating there's nothing worse than when the opposing team just lines up and runs it down your throat. Pete and John have built a terribly flawed soft defense that has no light at the end of the tunnel.
Totally
Pete built the defense. Everyone else on the coaching/management staff are there in “name only”. Pete’s running the show. Only Jody Allen can change the team’s future for the better. Pete would rather lose with his system than win via someone else’s coaching input. Pete must resign.
Once a night owl always night owl. Indeed, it's hard to see that light right now.
I was absolutely embarrassed at how poorly the secondary was tackling.
The point I became uninvested in this game was when woolen got slammed like a rag doll by Harris. Man bounced off of the grass upon impact 😂 this defense is horrific but the scheme doesn't help.
Look like woolen was hit by a truck
We all knew we were effed from the week one ass kicking we got from the rams. We aren’t even close to being where we should be.
What worked 10-11 years ago isn't gonna work with the personnel we have, and that includes the DC. If your only mantra, to the exclusion of all others, is "Don't give up the explosive plays," and every team in the league knows it, what do you think every team is going to do? Dink-n-dunk, power running against a front 4 that can't stop it, and a secondary stuck in soft zone that doesn't match up with the scheme being run.
For YEARS now it's been "rinse, repeat" defensively, because the only emphasis has been "don't give up the explosives." IOW you can run it down our throats between the 20s and we'll stiffen up inside the red zone where it's easier to go man-to-man in a compacted space. Well, it's the "run it down our throats" part that exposes the persistent weakness in our defensive scheme, and if Pete's unwilling to put a DC in there who can craft a scheme that fits the players instead of the other way around, Pete might as well ride off into the sunset.
Seattle needs its own gang of bullies up front, who haven't forgotten how to wrap up and tackle, set the edge, and shed their blocks. We have the talent; that's not enough without an emphasis on fundamentals and imposing your will in the trenches. It shouldn't be this hard. You hire DC's who can design defensive schemes that maximize the strengths of the players on the roster, not some cookie-cutter sets that we expect players to execute flawlessly and doesn't play to their individual attributes. You go to war with the army you _have,_ not the army you _want;_ and for a defensive-minded HC that's a fundamental rule that he should know better.
Clint Hurtt has no business being in the NFL… and Pete’s time is over, he is outcoached every game
Tomlin has 171 wins & 100 losses with 17 straight seasons of a winning sesson.
PC has 161 wins...
He is good, but overrated. Thanks.
where did he come from?
Does Clint Hurt still have a job this morning? If so, why?
Happy new year I hope you have a blessed day God bless you I love our Seahawks team I wish we could have won this oh well it is of what it is Go Seahawks!!!!!🙂🎊🎉🍻🥂💙💚✝️🙏🏻
Steeler fan - I totally agree with your brief take on Geno. His ability to slide and move in the pocket and avoid the rush was really a key reason your boys hung and kept it within reach until that strip- sack-fumble. The running game was working but Geno avoided at least 3 or 4 sacks which could have dramatically changed the complexion of the game. Hats off to Geno. I was impressed with his pocket presence and his ability to make plays in the middle of chaos.
Nice to hear what I would expect to be a good comment from Pittsburgh. After attending the SB the year we played your team, I still have the occasional "Terrible Towel" flashback lol.
We looked so soft yesterday. They got 6/7 yards per run. And that wasn’t even cause of bad tackling, that was just cause of not getting and penetration or resistance on the los. Gave up some big plays in the secondary, but that was mostly cause we were doing whatever we could to stop the run.
Here's a (dumb) theory/prediction: Obviously, the Seahawks have had a terrible past in Cardinals' stadium. The LOB died in that field. Sherman Tore ACL and was let go by Seattle, Earl broke leg his leg and hated seattle since, and Kam Hurt his neck and retired. Hawks also lost the superbowl, where we lost our potential dynasty. You can argue that Russ's downfall can be traced to 2020 week 7 match-up vs. Cardinals. So what I'm thinking is that it only makes sense for us to lose to the Cardinals next week, which will get Pete fired in the offseason. At the end of the day, we'll be able to trace back the demise of every both beloved players and coaches to that field. It would be sad but, in a way, a storybook ending to this chapter of Seahawks football.
As a Steeler fan I was worried about the Hawks offense because our Back seven is pieced together from the practice squad to players who came off the couch. Pat Pete playing his first game as a starting safety. Luckily enough Rudolph has the offense rolling. Online was Dominate, Harris and Warren controlled the game and Mason took advantage of the resulting stacked boxes getting some big chunk plays through the air. I had no idea how many Steeler fans were there until Freiermuth made a catch and you could here the loud MUTH from the crowd afterwords. GG’s Hawk Fans!
When Geno makes any mistake we make excuses. But when Russ made the same mistake in a same situation he gets crucified.
Brandon you are Right about Walker, He can Be a 1,500 yard 10 Touchdown Guy. Which would make Geno's Numbers, JSN, DK's and Locket's numbers Explode. You Have to Invest in run blocking Interior OL, Coach them up and be Imaginative in your play calling. By the way Running the ball when you want to would Help your Beleaguered Defense. Where you have Over Invested in the Secondary and Edge to NO Effect. I know you know this, Why doesn't Carrol or the Fanbase?
It's a straight forward path to maximizing all involved, Autie, but does tend to be a blind spot for the coaching, this offensive line.
Your point about backup QBs is made even worse when you consider the poor tackling. It's one thing if they give up soft coverage completions for just a couple yards, but those couple yard easy completions turn into 10-20 explosive plays when nobody can tackle or rally to the ball.
Your QB played smart elusive and accurate. He wasn't a problem. Devin Bush still doing the things that got him his walking papers from Pittsburgh. He doesn't like head on contact and avoids it.
Hey B I got the same shirt. Lookin sharp brother. As far for the game that was sad. Our defense just couldn’t stop anything. Spoon tried to bring the juice it just wasn’t enough. Let’s hope for a better season finally showing. Happy new year Hawk Nest 🤠
Thanks, Curt. One of my subs gifted me the shirt, and it is indeed a hell of a shirt. Happy New Year, Brother!
At Least the Huskies are on tonight
That game will be interesting. Enjoy!
Also the Winter Classic is played at T-Mobile Park today...
Vegas Knights vs Kraken.
Enjoy that game too.
I know, right! I was thinking the same thing... GO DAWGS!
Bottom line, the Steelers played tougher and with more conviction. We are not ready for the playoffs...that's been obvious since week 10. The team is still young and is still developing.
It's been obvious since week one
@Dirtydeeds-un4vw Rams have always given us a hard time, but week 9 we were leading the division...I had hope then.
It’s so pathetic and embarrassing this is even worse than week 1 this is the worst ones I ever seen and we got bullied in our home stadium which makes it even worse but man I’m so embarrassing and pissed how we didn’t show up on both sides of the ball complete embarrassment and what a joke and it’s not just that there was so many Steelers fans in our stadium waving their towels it was absolutely atrocious and stupid way to lose at home it has been a while since the week 1 of embarrassment I’m so pissed there was so many missed tackles and the offense keeps going 3 and out it is just awful and our defense gives up over 202 rushing yards and almost 500 yards on the ground I’m just so pissed and embarrassment at this same time it’s time for a serious change that needs to happen this off season.
Hopefully Jodie Allen has contracted an outside consultant to give an objective assessment of the Seahawks. Pete and John will always say that everything is sunshine and puppy dogs with the Seahawks and that they’re on the cusp of greatness. They need a reality check.
Brandon burning the midnight oli, we both know Pete's not Lol
Coach PC should just 'retire' and become another Hawk's consultant. IMO. Thanks.
At the beginning of the year I thought our offense would be able to play with anyone. Offensive line injuries and woes , and struggling against good defensive linemen + heavy blitzes over the year aside…I think that ended up being true. Not as much as all of us would have thought, given the offense clearly is the more talented side of the ball, but they could play with the best when they decided to show up.
I was always skeptical about the defense and how it would be able to hold up against the run and being able to hold teams to a points per game that gives the offense a chance. I hated watching Jamal Adams in this defense, and screamed at my screen when anyone said he was a good addition/playing well when he so clearly was a major issue every snap he was in the game and brought the whole defense down. Jamal aside I thought the secondary would generally be competitive. When accounting for a scheme that left so many people on islands or standing around waiting to get passes on, I did think the secondary did okay this year, but man the front 7 just is not there at all.
You’re trying to play a 3/4 scheme with no pressure looks or even fakes, with no real nose tackle although debatably Leonard Williams started to fill that role better than Reed did, with no real pressure LBer…you’d like to think Mafe is that but he’s not. Nwosu debatably could be that role, but got hurt and at best was an inconsistent rush LBer compared to what you’d ideally want in a 3/4…and you wonder why it kind of looks like this.
Show me a 3/4 defense that sits back in base looks that’s successful and I will show you that doesn’t exist. 3/4 defenses thrive on disguise, it’s kind of the whole reason you run that defense…ie you never know who’s blitzing or dropping…If you’re just subbing out 4/3 defensive ends for 3/4 outside LBers who are smaller and lighter on average than a 4/3 DE, and essentially running a 4/3 look you wonder why we can’t stop the run or get pressure, like that’s it right there. 3/4 nickel defenses are not just subbing out your DEs for LBers that’s literally stupid. You still need DEs, and you have your best outside LBer probably in man on the RB. “Updating scheme” without actually understanding “how that scheme works” is doing so but in a detrimental way or just for the sake of doing it. Like show me the number of times we even pretended to double A gap blitz this year let alone ran one, I bet they could be counted on a few fingers. A 3/4 defense isn’t just about throwing in some LBers for DEs and hoping, it’s about pressure. And if you want the team to look at, you only need to look at Pittsburgh teams of the past when James Harrison was featured…or to the Cowboys with Micah Parsons now. If you don’t have an elite rushing LBer, you’re fucked. If you don’t have a nose guard who can hold up in constant double teams, you’re fucked. If you don’t use high pressure or minimally disguise what pressure packages you bring, you’re fucked. If you give offenses easy underneath throws they will negate all your pressure and you’re super fucked.
What I question most is does this coaching staff even know what a 3/4 defense is or does? If not, stop this masquerade and just go back to the old defense and at least then we might be able to stop the run if nothing else lol.
If our defensive guys worked as hard as Brandon does, we would have a much better record. There isn't a lot of "want to" left on this defense and we can talk about scheme, players, game plan, whatever, but when you step onto a football field with the mentality they have and I'm talking about the defense, you are going to your *** kicked.
After this game, even with a path to the playoffs, I would rather see backups and practice squad players in the game. Riq doesn't need to be playing at all right now. Bobby is washed, due to age and overuse from our lack of LB depth, and at the very least should only be out there on early downs. We beat the Eagles because Pete showed some anger and held a few players accountable (and because the Eagles are in freefall). And then we lost to Mason Rudlph at home in a win-and-we're-in game. The hell with the playoffs. Bench everyone and make that defense play for a spot on this team next year, because they played like they didnt want to be here on Sunday,
Pete doesn’t evolve his game/strategy like elite coaches do
I hate to use terms like this, b/c it's so un-measurable, but imo This game was about one team being flat out tougher than the other
I thought it’ll get a little better when they go back out. No it got worse 🤣omg.
Couldn't have stated it better..amen brother!
Also it’s so dumb that we have man corners playing zone smh
This is the time in the season the team really needs to get with it. Teams are looking at the Play Off and needing every win and coming in all guns blazing. Just like with the Steelers this game. Players have to play lights out and they just didn't seem to be half awake.
Steelers fan here. One guy we knew we could run against was Devin Bush.
Im a Steelers Fan and you broke this down beautifully you should have way more followers and I hope Green Bay Chokes like last year and you guys make the playoffs
Thank you, Morningbump. That's very kind of you to say. Hell of a win by your team this past Sunday. Best of luck to you guys going forward!
Compliments from the other side. The team may be struggling but you my friend are not.@@TheHawksNest12thman
Don't follow the hawks but your QB looked good... very elusive n great game manager !! Think both you n US Steeler fans will be looking forward to the draft now !! Happy New Year ! 😎
Our QB was clearly not the problem in this one. Played plenty well enough to win, if the defense had chosen to play at all. But apparently it had better things to do. Sheesh.
@@gummiesrule88 defense got invited to the New Years party
We choose field goals instead of try for Tds like teams wanting to make the playoffs do.. thats my one real nit pick with Pete besides letting John make the personnel choices.
The only hope i have for next week is if cards want to lose for pick .
If they choose to play well look horrible 😢 we are bad
I think the Cardinals will come out to play us as if they were headed to the playoffs instead of the seahawks...they WIN we lose how embarrassing it will be...
We spared you guys on the last run 😂
Fire Pete and all defensive coaches, they suck and never adjust anything! Watched this game in Beliez and it ruined my NYE mood!!
Don't forget about soy boy Waldron!He needs to go too!
5:01 Look at #93 Cameron Young. He has clear lane to chase down the RB and his speed is unacceptable at the professional level.
Let's give him the benefit of the doubt that he over pursed. But where is old Bobby going? What is Devin Bush looking at? Why is Quandre dangling?
Riq Woolen had some INTs last year and Julian Love had some this year. But they are worst tacklers in secondary that I have ever seen in Seahawks uniform.
You talk about Pete and John and the coordinators being inadaptable after 10 years. But the products on the field are average at best.
The bottom line is this. They need a generational and a complete overhaul in the entire organization.
We keep hoping that our Hawk's run defense will be better only to be disappointed time after time.
Lucas needs to get his knee fixed already.. cost us a whole season of shuffling when it could have been done in training camp when it was first an issue..
We add Wagner back, Sign Dre Mont Jones, bring back Jarran Reed, trade for Leonard Williams, two great safeties, a great rookie in Witherspoon and Riq woolen and we still can't stop backup QB'S.....Its clearly the system and scheme they are running and it's not working. Hasn't since they changed to 3-4, seems like they are forcing it. Hurtt seems like a great guy but his defense is not getting it done
I think this coaching staff is not the problem, its getting max out of the players they got. It all starts at the line, not stout enough to stop the run. Also we got to upgrade the linebacker group.
A good roster with below poor coaching dooms them to mediocrity until they make the changes they need. IMO
Anyone looking for a bright spot, I've noticed Walker's pass blocking has improved over the season and it was acknowledged by PFF. Don't laugh, it's actually pretty good news if he just could stay healthy. Woolen on the other hand should have been charged for admission.
Excited for Walker's future. Woolen, starting to be not as much so. The kid just may not want to tackle which is hard when you play defense.
First tackle attempt I made in High School, lead blocker dropped his helmet under my grill, knocked a couple of teeth out and the coach benched me. @@TheHawksNest12thman
Why haven't they (Seahawks) learned that the way to bring someone down is to go after the legs. Unbelievable all the missed tackles.
Preach
Since hiring Pete Carroll in 2010, the Seahawks have had 3 loosing seasons (7-9,7-9,7-10) and have missed the playoffs 3 times in 14 seasons. 8 wildcard appearances, 7 division appearances, 2 conference championships and 2 Superbowl appearances. Pete turned this team around and continues to draft quality players to make another Superbowl run. I believe that we're right there and I believe changes are needed but not at the head coach position. The Hawks had a lot of injuries this year and put a lot of pressure on rookies. I believe next season will be different (for the better).
Scathing and depressing but rings true. Heads must roll.
We don't deserve a playoff run. Need a complete change at all coaching positions FIRST. We have far too much talent on this roster to be playing this badly. If I was on this team right now I'd be looking to be traded. It's Freakin SAD
Done with SH, looking for a team that wants to win…clearly the hawks do not give a shit…
Where do we go from here? We aren’t making any noise in the playoffs if we were to luckily get in.. checked out already
Why is Mike jack in man one on one with there star reviver ? Don’t we have woolen and spoon ? Don’t understand that at all
Our corners don't follow receivers or switch sides ...if Pickens is on Jackson's side then that who covers him....
PETE HAS TO GO as well as the entire coaching staff
We got 2 very good players in first round ..coach carrol is all about run the ball and stop the run good players poor draft
What an embarrassing last home game for the season. Is it too late to go back to "tackling 101", among other things. That was painful at home, and I can only wonder how painful it is for the team and coaches.
KWIII is special
The hawks got punched in the mouth on the first play, and was punch drunk the whole game. That is what happens when you underestimate your opponent. They didn't expect that, pete carroll needs to resign or be fired.
If they don't want to tackle with Intent, maybe some gd grit playing professional pickleball. Steelers showed Pride..away from home t00!
Day 1852 of saying pete needs to go
yup
Clint hurtt and maybe Pete Carroll needs to go too? This was a must win game and that’s how the defense played? lol yea the offense wasn’t the amazing either but they technically was carrying the game but wasn’t able to hold on long enough cause of the poor tackling this coaching staff is teaching.
These players shouldn't have to be taught to tackle. Most have been playing football their whole lives.
Before the game, I told people that if the Hawks knock us out of the playoffs, I'm wishing them well, because they have my 2nd favorite coach. Go Steelers!
Why are you on an opposing teams talk page? Seriously, evaluate your life choices.
@@jtfike who gives a fuck
@@ihatetheantichrist9545 I do peter breath......
@@jtfike It came on my feed. Thanks for the advice girlfriend
From a 49ers fan perspective (I know your least favorite) it always feels like the talent on the hawks team is not nearly as good as the fan base and their writers believe and talk about. Proof is in the Seahawks mediocrity for 8 years. Tariq Woolen, Dremont Jones prime examples. I think it’s a mediocre team that people act (and hope) like is better.
Because seahawks fans and writers are delusional
We lost game (& season) when we lost RT Lucas (& C Brown) & RB K9 at half-time.
We had v v bad luck w injuries this year. So pray more & moan less 12s.
Did the D get the latest covid strain?
D looked tired & missed Brooks tackles & Pass Rush of Owusu & healthy real J.Adams. ( shud we trade him away as he has had lots of bad luck injuries, & a change cud help him & 12s win).
Well If we end 8-9 we get pick 12 to 16.
K9 & Lucas looked so good until injury bad luck struck. We ain't been the same since we lost Max Unger. 7 years & still trying to replace 12s 2nd best ever OL guy. we Gotta get more RG & RT talent backup to rest Lucas chronic knee.
Geno was amazing vs a top 5 D.
Yes Im UK British but im not being sarcastic like my nation are known for.
Cuz
These predictions are via Profs employed by B.Baldinger & Neil Reynolds of Sky Sports. Those profs are the best.
Rebuild began w Russ trade & we were in a v v weak state 2 yrs ago. As M.Sando thesis shows - it takes 3 yrs for most rookies to perform well.
As per Baldy & NR Profs both Cross & Lucas are future all pros.
Better still, K9 & Spoon & Woolen & JSN & DK are future HoFers if they stay healthy. (So get em to pray 4 good health)
Also Lewis & Olu & Morris & Chorbonet & Mafe & Hall & Kenny Mac & Leonard & Nwosu are all future pro bowlers.
It looks like a Ravens or Bills or Lions SB winner next month.
Its a new year - 12s ur 7 yrs of bad luck are over - can't wait 4 next yr
I'm full of optimism!🎉.
Don't forget about #54, Wagner is a fn badass baller..
I hope that he's able to try and get 2,000 tackles by the time he retires.
He could join #52 Rice in the 2k tackles club if given the opportunity. Thanks.
I luv BWagz.
Like your optimism....but rebuild?...from the same front office who ruined it.
Pete Carrol is gone !!
We need a complete reboot let drew lock play more and maybe Pete needs to step down we are not the 2015 Seahawks so we need to stop playing like them and play like the 2024 Seahawks a new team with amazing potential
Steelers 3 rd string QB outshines our crummy has never been a good QB in his 12 year career.
Cant even say the Steelers their respect after whooping ass smh
It's clear to me that the Seahawks are now essentially the Sonics. This is nothing but a financial investment at this point for Jodi Allen to get top dollar for at the point she is forced to sell. I don't blame her for that, but it is just the way it is until there is ownership here who cares about winning games. I'm 1000% done watching this team until Pete either retires or is fired. There's just better things I can do with my time.
No surprise. They're the classic NFL mediocre team. Win some, lose against any team that smacks them in the mouth. Like their head coach, perennially mostly rah rah talk and very little competitive football the way the NFL is played now. The game has passed Seattle by for a few years now. Wonder why? Go back to their dumb loss in the SB. They've been in a funk ever since, deservedly so. The coach should have been booted back then but the franchise took the easy way out and let his weak act longer. He's an absolute coach who has made a career of convincing folks that cheerleading is the same as coaching. All hat and no cattle.
Seahawks don't deserve to be in the play offs they won't get there this year or next if this year was the best we have I'm sorry geno is not the quarterback quarterback Seattle needs geno is an average player an average quarterback at best I'm a due hard hawks fan but I gotta call it as I see it we need a quarterback we do not have one Wilson was a great trade we didn't lose anything we did as good or better then with Wilson ask Denver what a quarterback Wilson was for them he sucked Smith sucks Seattle needs a real quarterback
Bush needs to go
I’ll tell you what I think is 30% of your overall problem:
You not only paid Devon Bush, but you PLAYED him. He’s a bum. Watch him. Isolate on him. His lack of effort is truly jaw dropping.
Weakness
I’m going on year 5 of saying we need to move on from Pete.. same song and dance every season it’s getting really old and making me not want to watch as a die hard fan
What are the coaches doing... we're getting beat up without fighting back except maybe fighting back and getting penalties in return...we have two QBs but dont utilize them start playing with alternatives figure out a strategy for winning games even if its a stretch...we need other plans things that arent obvious...say something that'll make this team come alive they're playing like zombies with no life no URGENCY...arent the playoffs important games far as games go... Or are they tired of this season seafrauds
what am i doing here? boring
2005 or 2023 steelers always beat the hawks