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In the original stories Watson had just come back from Afghanistan, where Britain was busy having a fairly pointless war, way back in 18 hundred & something or other.... it's what made the opening of the new adaptation so clever.
This is why I have a slight peeve with their caption as Sherlock, "Historically", isn't a modern genius, he's a 19th/20th Century Genius. So if anything this is a lore accurate depiction.
Redbeard is a key theme in the series and has been mentioned a few times. In the last episode, Redbead was also seen by the villain in his mind palace as a weakness of Sherlocks and you will find out what it means this season.
Benedict Cumberbatch was doing a million things between those two episodes. He had Hamlet in theater ( it sold out in a minute a year in advance more than 100,000 tickets)and immediately after that he was filming Doctor Strange then he was back to filming Sherlock S4 all that while getting married and having his first son. Yeah people had to wait, but they were following Cumberbatch’s other stuff as well so they kind off understood the delay ( some of them ).
The Ophelia in that 2015 production was played by Siân Brooke who also appears in the fourth series, the filming of which began in early 2016. She must have made an impression.
27:25 no, the war they're referring to at the start is the Second Anglo-Afghan war, fought from 1878 to 1880. It's where Watson is wounded in the official novels canon !
The Hansom Safety Cabriolet was the first kind of horse drawn carriage designed in the 1830s in England for carrying customers, Named after its inventor, it became known as The Hansom Cab over time.
The wait always drove everyone crazy. What got me watching the show in the first place was people talking about the Sherlock series for a full year on Facebook non-stop. I had to see what all the fuss was about. Only when I watched the first episode and the original piolet episode (that was slightly different from the official first episode) did I finally understood. 💙🔎🕵♂️📺🔍💙 I loved the Abominable Bride from the moment I first saw the trailer. And to this day, I still love this episode. 🖤🔎👰♀️👻🕵♂️📺🔍🖤
This is my favourite episode, barr none. As for the wait ... we were used to waiting between seasons with this show. Trying to get Ben and Martin together in one place for long enough to film - what with the busy schedules of those two - was understandable, and *always* totally worth the wait. I thought Molly appearing as the *male* pathologist was a stroke of genius and it is based on a true story. Can't wait for your reviews of season 4!
A couple points - in the original books Watson did fight in Afghanistan, so that wasn't meta - just a bit tragic that over a hundred years later, there was another war there. As for the social commentary, I don't think there was any particular reason. I just think it was the fact that it was set in Victorian times and they had such different social views that the writers decided to lean into it a bit.
Benedict Cumberbatch plays Sherlock with a kind of socially-autistic repressed Englishness in the normal episodes. In this one, he dialled up the Englishness to 11 and seemed to be enjoying doing this immensely. No matter how much you might think that those personality traits are dysfunctional, there's still a certain respect for them to the extent that it's a mode you can go into in order to perform well in specific circumstances.
The scene of Holmes and Watson returning to Baker Street and being met by Mrs Hudson resembles the opening scene in the classic 1970 movie The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes
Moffat and Gatiss are huge fans of that movie. Their version of Mycroft and their version of "A Scandal in Bohemia"/Belgravia are heavily influenced by it.
Mycroft was originally large and portly in the books so they took advantage of it in this episode. Obviously Mark Gatiss is nowhere near that size so that’s why in the modern episodes Mycroft is known to be on a constant diet.
More than a social comentary and hollywood and stuff it was a critic that the books always had, the same way Tolkien's books have only a few (and in some books) no female characters that are relevant to the plot (or even if they are relevant they are distant and do not participate). This is funny because Sir Arthur Connan Doyle was sort of a friend of Agath Christie and help to look for her when she mysteriously disappeared. So he met many acomplished women and referred to his second wife as a person with incredible skills in typing. Yet in his books women barely talked, and always had to be rescued even The Woman (Ms. Adler) appeared only in one story and she is barely mantion in a few others. This "episode" is also a wink something that will happen in a future episode.
Pasteur was working on virology in the late 19th c. Data was used back in the 17th c. (not quite the same meaning as today). The Babbage machine, early computer, was invented in the early 19th c. So, the "virus in the data" isn't completely anachronistic, but, of course, we know it hints at reality bleeding into Sherlock's meditation. P.s. "cabriolet" and "cab" were in use in the 19th c. It was fun looking up these things to check on them. I remembered them from the original stories, but wasn't 100% sure.
I seem to remmebr some historical detail relating to how people won't write what is completely obvious to them and later in history we are elft wondering what something is and I think it was related to some detail of how the cabs were used or paid for like it was somewhat private or lime a lease or something like that.
Andrew Scott is just chewing up those scenes, isn't he. His Moriarty is played so well. I'll repeat what I quoted previously: 'I want to break free...' ;)
I was kind of disappointed that this wasn't just a standalone Victorian episode unrelated to the main series (which Moffat pretty much suggested it would be in interviews, but he's known to be deceptive).
I would love to see yall react to a TV series called Chuck (2007-2012) staring Zachary Levi. It's a great story with great writers and an amazing cast. It's a comedy/drama/action/spy show that has everything you need for a great show with just the right amount of cheese. I love your reactions ❤️
It was so fun! There are not many shows that can bring people together to cinema to watch an episode. I really enjoyed watching Doctor Who and Sherlock with other fans!
In "The Greek Interpreter," Holmes and Watson go visit Mycroft at the Diogenes Club, a club for "unclubbable" (unsocial) men who just want to sit in comfortable chairs and read newspapers and not be bothered, basically. In _The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes,_ a movie that was hugely influential on Gatiss and Moffat, the Diogenes Club is a cover for various spy activities. Mycroft is large in the stories (in which he rarely appears), but probably more from his distaste for exercise than gluttony. The fatsuit is distasteful, in my opinion.
I was writing a play at one point about an assassination bureau-type organization in the Victorian era run by women. Some ideas just seem to be in the ether.
Indeed, there were women fighting both for the right to vote and against. Change can be scary, and also many women feared their husbands would stop listening to them if they could also vote
P.P.P.S. Season Four was not folks' favorite, but I loved *all* of the show!!! Now, there's no comparison to Season One and Two but....And I *love* #TheMarvels!!!
27.24 The British have been involved in Afghanistan for centuries. This is the one Watson was fighting in en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Anglo-Afghan_War
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In the original stories Watson had just come back from Afghanistan, where Britain was busy having a fairly pointless war, way back in 18 hundred & something or other.... it's what made the opening of the new adaptation so clever.
This is why I have a slight peeve with their caption as Sherlock, "Historically", isn't a modern genius, he's a 19th/20th Century Genius. So if anything this is a lore accurate depiction.
Ah, Afghanistan...
The home of pointless Wars.
Unless you like Oil.
Redbeard is a key theme in the series and has been mentioned a few times. In the last episode, Redbead was also seen by the villain in his mind palace as a weakness of Sherlocks and you will find out what it means this season.
The early scenes where Holmes and Watson meet for the first time are taken directly from the very first Sherlock Holmes novel, A Study in Scarlet.
Benedict Cumberbatch was doing a million things between those two episodes. He had Hamlet in theater ( it sold out in a minute a year in advance more than 100,000 tickets)and immediately after that he was filming Doctor Strange then he was back to filming Sherlock S4 all that while getting married and having his first son. Yeah people had to wait, but they were following Cumberbatch’s other stuff as well so they kind off understood the delay ( some of them ).
The Ophelia in that 2015 production was played by Siân Brooke who also appears in the fourth series, the filming of which began in early 2016. She must have made an impression.
27:25 no, the war they're referring to at the start is the Second Anglo-Afghan war, fought from 1878 to 1880. It's where Watson is wounded in the official novels canon !
The Hansom Safety Cabriolet was the first kind of horse drawn carriage designed in the 1830s in England for carrying customers, Named after its inventor, it became known as The Hansom Cab over time.
The wait always drove everyone crazy. What got me watching the show in the first place was people talking about the Sherlock series for a full year on Facebook non-stop. I had to see what all the fuss was about. Only when I watched the first episode and the original piolet episode (that was slightly different from the official first episode) did I finally understood.
💙🔎🕵♂️📺🔍💙
I loved the Abominable Bride from the moment I first saw the trailer. And to this day, I still love this episode.
🖤🔎👰♀️👻🕵♂️📺🔍🖤
This is my favourite episode, barr none. As for the wait ... we were used to waiting between seasons with this show. Trying to get Ben and Martin together in one place for long enough to film - what with the busy schedules of those two - was understandable, and *always* totally worth the wait.
I thought Molly appearing as the *male* pathologist was a stroke of genius and it is based on a true story.
Can't wait for your reviews of season 4!
A couple points - in the original books Watson did fight in Afghanistan, so that wasn't meta - just a bit tragic that over a hundred years later, there was another war there. As for the social commentary, I don't think there was any particular reason. I just think it was the fact that it was set in Victorian times and they had such different social views that the writers decided to lean into it a bit.
He was an army surgeon, not a soldier.
The little clues in Abominable Bride will make mych more sense when you've seen season 4.
My favorite episode of my favorite show!!!! THANKS!!!!!
Benedict Cumberbatch plays Sherlock with a kind of socially-autistic repressed Englishness in the normal episodes. In this one, he dialled up the Englishness to 11 and seemed to be enjoying doing this immensely. No matter how much you might think that those personality traits are dysfunctional, there's still a certain respect for them to the extent that it's a mode you can go into in order to perform well in specific circumstances.
Yes they were called cabs. The official term is a handsome cab, which is where we get cab from
It was a hansom cab designed by Joseph Hansom, an architect from York.
The scene of Holmes and Watson returning to Baker Street and being met by Mrs Hudson resembles the opening scene in the classic 1970 movie The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes
Moffat and Gatiss are huge fans of that movie. Their version of Mycroft and their version of "A Scandal in Bohemia"/Belgravia are heavily influenced by it.
Mycroft was originally large and portly in the books so they took advantage of it in this episode. Obviously Mark Gatiss is nowhere near that size so that’s why in the modern episodes Mycroft is known to be on a constant diet.
I can’t tell you how happy I am that you’re doing abominable bride! Here’s a comment for engagement..🎉
More than a social comentary and hollywood and stuff it was a critic that the books always had, the same way Tolkien's books have only a few (and in some books) no female characters that are relevant to the plot (or even if they are relevant they are distant and do not participate). This is funny because Sir Arthur Connan Doyle was sort of a friend of Agath Christie and help to look for her when she mysteriously disappeared. So he met many acomplished women and referred to his second wife as a person with incredible skills in typing. Yet in his books women barely talked, and always had to be rescued even The Woman (Ms. Adler) appeared only in one story and she is barely mantion in a few others. This "episode" is also a wink something that will happen in a future episode.
I was a nice way to bring in a lot of book references and have a bit of fun. Looking forward to the next one. Hopefully soon!
Ronald A. Knox's rules for detective writing included a prohibition against twins. A (relatively) recent Sherlock Holmes movie broke this rule.
Afghanistan is from the Canon, though.
If The actress who plays Martha married the actor that plays Watson she’d be Freema Freeman, that would be such a fun name.
Pasteur was working on virology in the late 19th c. Data was used back in the 17th c. (not quite the same meaning as today). The Babbage machine, early computer, was invented in the early 19th c. So, the "virus in the data" isn't completely anachronistic, but, of course, we know it hints at reality bleeding into Sherlock's meditation. P.s. "cabriolet" and "cab" were in use in the 19th c. It was fun looking up these things to check on them. I remembered them from the original stories, but wasn't 100% sure.
I seem to remmebr some historical detail relating to how people won't write what is completely obvious to them and later in history we are elft wondering what something is and I think it was related to some detail of how the cabs were used or paid for like it was somewhat private or lime a lease or something like that.
😂😂Still holding out for a Pete & Bas Gentleman reaction from you guys 😂😂🏴🇬🇧🙏🏻
"I play the Violin, and Smoke a Pipe"
Note, Opium is smoked out of a Pipe...
Andrew Scott is just chewing up those scenes, isn't he. His Moriarty is played so well.
I'll repeat what I quoted previously: 'I want to break free...' ;)
Holmes was a Lotus eater.
This insight helped build the Mind Palace.
Bout time boys! I’ve been jonesing for some Sherlock from ya’ll.
These opening credits are similar to the ones for the Granada Sherlock Holmes series with Jeremy Brett and David Burke/Edward Hardwick.
I was kind of disappointed that this wasn't just a standalone Victorian episode unrelated to the main series (which Moffat pretty much suggested it would be in interviews, but he's known to be deceptive).
I would love to see yall react to a TV series called Chuck (2007-2012) staring Zachary Levi. It's a great story with great writers and an amazing cast. It's a comedy/drama/action/spy show that has everything you need for a great show with just the right amount of cheese. I love your reactions ❤️
I saw this in the movies. It was packed.
It was so fun! There are not many shows that can bring people together to cinema to watch an episode. I really enjoyed watching Doctor Who and Sherlock with other fans!
Bells were not to summon loved ones, only servants.
"The Abominable Bride," not "Indomitable." I'd say this is more analogous to the _Doctor Who_ Christmas specials than to the minisodes.
Skibbety-paps! 😂
In "The Greek Interpreter," Holmes and Watson go visit Mycroft at the Diogenes Club, a club for "unclubbable" (unsocial) men who just want to sit in comfortable chairs and read newspapers and not be bothered, basically. In _The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes,_ a movie that was hugely influential on Gatiss and Moffat, the Diogenes Club is a cover for various spy activities. Mycroft is large in the stories (in which he rarely appears), but probably more from his distaste for exercise than gluttony. The fatsuit is distasteful, in my opinion.
Watched this at the cinema. Wore the hat.
Yo. Here is some intel guvnor. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND the BBC show ‘The Responder’ if you want to see Martin Freeman in a great role. Thanks again fellas.
I was writing a play at one point about an assassination bureau-type organization in the Victorian era run by women. Some ideas just seem to be in the ether.
Indeed, there were women fighting both for the right to vote and against. Change can be scary, and also many women feared their husbands would stop listening to them if they could also vote
yes, it's called deferred gratification.
P.P.P.S. Season Four was not folks' favorite, but I loved *all* of the show!!! Now, there's no comparison to Season One and Two but....And I *love* #TheMarvels!!!
Love ya a guysss can't wait for another partt🔥🫶
Do you recognize Eustace? He met an interesting end in another series. I went back to make sure I didn't spoil it, but you've covered it.
Political refferences were on point😂😂
P.S. Yeah, I was *so* happy but that was a looooong wait!!!!
The UK were in Afghanistan back in 1895
Nope. Second Anglo-Afghan war is 1878-1880. By 1895 that's the Russian invasion.
You are kind of glossing over redbeard but that’s getting repeated for a reason.
P.P.S. to #Rekkai @nupefromdaville: There was a lot of "mansplaining" criticism of this episode so your criticism is on the mark!
It was soooo boring waiting between episodes.
Too much talking. 😒
27.24 The British have been involved in Afghanistan for centuries. This is the one Watson was fighting in en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Anglo-Afghan_War
beat me to it!!