Skar Audio designed the VXF subwoofer series to have the perfect combination of SQ and SPL features alike. Utilizing a high temperature 3" dual voice coil, and massive 300oz motor, the VXF's get extremely loud while sounding incredible. Conservatively rated at 3,000 watts max power.
@@theinsaneunknown A lot of things are made in China and multiple major brands just slap a name on them. I have many of those examples, not hating only stating facts
The zvx just wants to be in a different box here’s the zvx hitting the lows ruclips.net/video/HcqRCQ24XKk/видео.html but its more for spl if you more on the sq side then yeah vxf definitely better
i have 2 of the zvx 12" and i run them on a 5,000 watt amp, not once have they had a problem, extremely powerful, and the sound quality is great in my vehicle
I’d personally pick the vxf. My friend has a single vxf 15 with a Skar rp2k amp doing 146-147db sealed on the dash in a Saturn suv. Very impressive how loud it is and I’m sure it can take even more clean power. Seems like some companies dont know there speakers specs 100%. Thanks Parker
The difference in them is the box you can't take a sub that needs lower tuned box and put them in the same box there is going to be a big difference so box is the biggest thing you need a box that's tuned around 30 hz and a box tuned around 35-40 hz to be able to test and get more of an accurate feel for each sub in my opinion
I mean true but a lot of people are just going to drop a new Sub in their box, plus a lot of vehicles only have a certain amount of space so building a new box may not be possible, that being said I feel like this is still a valid test for those reasons. But you are absolutely correct it should be in a box built by the TS parameters to really know the differences in sound quality ,and output.
@Babyk Most videos I watch make it seem like it doesn't get low as it should, but there's a whole bunch of videos with the Sundown X playing lows real well. I have the vxf 12s, but I'm about to get the Sundown X v3 12s.
@Babyk I understand that people think they play lows good, but these videos are not that far off. You must have heard the most shitty setup if you can't tell the difference between a 95 pound sub vs a 57 pound sub. There is a guy on RUclips that had 4 15 zvx and switched to Sundown and said it was better. The x12 v3 is 70 pounds. I've been building boxes for a long time and some subs just don't do good. I have some old Sa15s that don't play lows worth a damn, but I dropped some Audioque 15s street duty in the same box and the lows were very deep. I don't need any 15s now because I already have too many subs now. I don't need the Sundown X either, but I just want to try them out.
@Babyk The weight means more motor force. You can't meter higher than a zv5 because they take more power than a zvx. 2 zv5s can take 8000 watts all day, but the zvx would burn up. I could care less why someone switched to Deaf Bonce, but I know it is a very good brand. Sundown is on sale and I'm not trying to spend 800-900 on one sub. Like I said before, you must have heard a bad Sundown install because the zvx can't keep up. Skar would have put Sundown out of business by now if that were true. I've never heard anyone on any forum recommend the zvx over Sundown. It can't keep up with an American Bass xmaxxx Monster or DC level 5 which is similar to zv5's power handling. I'm not trying to turn you against Skar. If you like it, that's all that matters because some people think L7s sound good, but they don't. The DNR sub they stopped making could compete, but the zvx is not on the same level as the ones I named.
1 vxf 15" on 1500 watts for a couple years. Banger. Loudest I've ever heard in person, which isn't as loud as competition stuff obviously, but never heard a better sounding/shaking sub in my own experience. Vibrates the air in the cabin, sounds amazingly clean, pounds the roof and back hatch pretty good.
I love what you do Parker. Keep up the good work bro. I'm actually a S.A. fan but decided to try some Skar subs for giggles. So glad I did. Not sure of the longevity of them yet but so far AWESOME!! subs. My 20yr home audio theater build is 48,000 REAL WATTS, CLEAN RMS and is audiophile grade SQ. But my Semi on the other hand, I just wanted to get outright loud. Mission accomplished!!! Currently running 2 ZVX 12"d1 in my 2020 Peterbuilt, in a compound loaded isobaric 6th order, tuned at 28-50hz. Everyone swears my truck is full of subs LMAO. Lows not as good but It's def louder than my X15's where by far. not to mention way less weight and take less space. It is SOOOO LOUD You absolutely cannot see straight at 45-50 hz. and when it hits, it literally feels like someone hit your entire body with a giant feather pillow. For what I payed for them. But imo! It's a BUDGET STEAL NO DOUBT! I Love my ZVX's
parker you have to release your spotify playlist! im constantly trying to find new bass songs and im slowing running out of luck but theres many songs that you play that I dont recognise.
The ZVX have been the most brutal, violent SPL beasts & the VXF’s have been the smoothest, cleanest, pleasant sounding bandwidth friendly subs, I’d say VXF 1,500-2,000 watts clean for music, 3,000-3,500 watts clean for burps, ZVX 2,000-3,000 watts clean for music, 3,000-4,500 watts clean for burps...
I got the VXF-12-2was thinking about getting the VXF-15-2 If placed in the right box and turned properly with steady power supply ... The VXF-12-2 is absolutely amazing. Especially for the price. Especially if you fully sound proof atleast your trunk and have fans or good air flow. I have an ORION XTR-2250 "THE BEAST" with 200 amp alternator, "Big 4" upgrade, of course OFC 0\1 wire through out, super beefy RCA's, SKAR EQ, .....and much more. Still working on it.
I just got the VTX today and after looking at sundown. I'm going to base all my hearing ability off of a JL audio w7 which got stole out of my car a few years back. I don't expect this speaker to even come close. I am very impressed with the build of Skar! I am literally waiting on the FedEx truck now for the Skar box... I have watched a few of your videos and they are very informative coming from a ex contester. Just getting back in it after 12 years. I'm running mine off of a Directed D -2400 at the time I paid around $2,300 for this amplifier one ohm stable. I am very excited to see what this sub does in my car. I believe once broke in though through the controls of a really good head unit me I'm a Pioneer fan. The head unit gives you so much flexibility for the subwoofer. And once broke in which is going to take a while with the VTX model the foam will become able to flex more. The spider will break in before the foam gasket will. At least that's what I've learned over time but I'm sure you break all your speakers in. Me I like that a little more base than anything else I can contour it to my own ear specifications hopefully. But wanted to thank you for making these videos I know you do get money for these awesome speakers. But I understand what you do takes a lot out of your back! I installed for years! Except back then we didn't have nothing like this! And I may just upgrade to sundown but I believe the build behind the subwoofer I chose is a lot better as far as moving air around and keeping the speaker itself at a good cool running temperature
How'd it go? My two Solo Baric L7s got stolen out of my car and I'm looktfor replacements. I want a W7 or two... Maybe an MTX 7500 if I go cheaper... But if these are any good... I may skip them both and get this.
so i personally like the vxf for SQL all day i have 2 XFL american bass that dont hit certain notes as good but will out SPL these VXF all day ........had both on a taramps 8k both handle it well for both being 1500/3000....the skar fanboys might not like this but the XFL def hit harder i kept em in my slab
wow i could tell the same thing just listen on my pc. i do have a good 2.1 setup though. i know its not the same as in person but surprised i was able to hear a difference. you could even see it. the vxf seemed to stay more linear and musical.
Good comparison video Parker. Definitely was looking forward to this showdown. The VXF gets my vote. I like SPL, but I also need my music to sound good, and the VXF seems more tight and controlled and gets lower. I'll save $120 and get 2 VXF 15's in the future because they will easily handle the 3,500 ish watts my Orion XTR 2500.1 puts out. Looking forward to the Soundqubed HDX series tests, and hopefully a $250 - $300 sub showdown in the future as well. That's the price range I will be shopping in for sure, and I'm sure a lot of others shop in that price range as well for 1 or 2 of the 1500 to 2000 watt range subwoofers.
I have 3 of the zvx and it's borderline nuts. I 100% do agree that they don't really sound the best with all music (not bad though). If SPL is your goal its a no brainier. One thing though I started with a plain ported box but have moved to a 6th order and it's a whole new level, WINDY AF! Love all SKAR products
i just got two of the ZVXV2 12's and someone told me to do a 6th order box. was it a big difference when you put them in the new 6th order? was it worth it, i am pumped ive never had a 6th order box and these subs are perfect for one. what amp do you have powering them? can you float anything or small hair movement
At that time I was running an MD 8k (taramps). Now was it worth it. I believe so, main reason is it was much more efficient and I had a bit more bandwidth (range). Now I’ve moved to one 18” in a plain ported. I will admit that at times I miss the SPL part of the 6th order but the flatness of this setup it awesome. I would say if you have the money build one and also build a nice ported box @ around 30-32 Hz and see what sounds best.
I'm running 4 skar audio vxf 12's in my 08 tahoe I'm about to try a new brand of amplifier called corzus 10k just to see where it leads wish me luck 🤙🤙🤙
Corzus amps are Brazilian monsters trust me when I tell you you’ll get every penny worth out of it be carful they love to eat power very fast make sure your electrical can handle the power draw
i would like to see more video of the smd meter. to show how much difference there is in each woofer during music. the vxf seemed to stay around 1500 watts more. the zvx seemed more peaky. i would think thats a good thing but it didnt seem to translate to being musical. really hard to tell from the few seconds you showed the meter. would you say the zvx had more of a swing? i wonder if the vxf stays in the gap more or less. seemed more consistent. triple or double magnet? one seems wider while the other is taller.
The VXF need a 2 cubic feet, 33hz box, port area 29.75 sq in. The ZVX needs 3 cubic feet, 34hz box, port area 38 sq in. You do the tests with the same box for both subs
The VXF has better sound to me🤷🏾♂️ The lows on it just take the cake for me. I'm assuming you are running these at a 1ohm load. How do the EVL series compare? Another great review.!
technically the vxf would be getting worse and less sound with higher ohms, 1 ohm produces the most power out of amp and lets say 4 ohms would produce 3 times less. so if a amp is 4000 watt 1 ohm stable and 4000 watt, that would mean 2 ohm would be 3450 watt, 3 2750 watt and so forth. so in his case the vxf was taking more power, and producing hard hitting LOW fq bass, while the zvx was produce a faster and higher fq, while using less power.
Very good quality video answered all the questions I had went a little above and beyond my expectations of a review keep it up man you’re doing great I liked and subscribed because I feel your review was top-notch
ZVX has taller motor of smaller diameter for the increased stroke. It keeps the coil in the magnetic gap through more of the stroke (or throughout the stroke).
I’m absolutely in love with my zvx v2 18d2...still breaking it in..it’s getting better and better and I’m getting harder and harder...I think I’m gonna marry it..straight up..zvx v2 all the way!!! SPL life!!!
@@dustinbulger1239 about 27 goes really hard. I can go a little lower but it starts to scare me it flexis so hard. I have a 6fc box tuned to 32. The zvx18v2 is truly an amazing subwoofer.
Ok because im looking at a 15 zvx v2 for 300 cad and i like my lows like 25 to 40hz so i want to know if this will take it all day long. I usually drive 3+ hrs a day
@@dustinbulger1239 yes, give it a good 10hrs on medium to medium high volume to get fully broken in. Mine has about 50hours and it’s getting better and better. It can def take it. I’m pushing 2k tru watts at 1ohm 14.2volts
I'd like to see the EVL in comparison to both of these. I already have 2 12" EVL's with a SKv2-3500.1D amp pushing them , I was thinking about getting the VXF subs and sticking them into the EVL box
My son has 2 12 in evl dual 4ohm on a taramp smart 3k. It pounds. My oldest son has the same amp and just received one of the 12 inch dual vc 2ohm ZVX and it’s slamming as hard as the two EVL’s.
I’m quickly realizing how far the industry has come since I’ve been away. Trying to get back into it after about 25 years or so. These are impressive works
I have 4 zvxv2 18dv1 on 1 Wolfram aw9000.1 wired down to .5 ohms, it can hit from 10 to about 60 hz no problem, I still need to fix my box and wall and I need more power and more electrical but I think they sound better than anything I've ever heard before, of course I have not been able to compare with any newer systems, I have been confined to the city of Wichita KS where the bass community is almost non existent
I have a skv2 2500 pushing dual 1ohm zvx 12s in the skar prefabed ported box. Tuned at 33 hertz. Sounds insane. Only upgrade i have is the big 3 and added another battery. I should of gone with the 3500 but was on a budget. All I can say is that skar backs up what it says on the audio. The lows in my set up is crazy. If you can't hear it, you will definitely feel it
Also not many people take into account the sensitivity rating...the vxf has a higher sensitivity rating so it doesn't take as much to get as loud...like my ddx 12 has a 90plus sensitivity rating so it gets loud quick especially since I only have 800 watts going to it
I was honestly looking at the vxf 15’s before I bought the zvx 15’s. So far in impressed with them. I wanted a sub that plays a little bit of everything
How could anybody give this a thumbs down OMG best video sub comparison I have ever seen dude you're awesome beautiful taking the chance with your subwoofers with that tar amplifier knowing how much distortion those amplifiers have. Just for the record I'm pushing 60 years old always been a DJ for many years and your video by far is the best. I would go with the vxf because I listen to all kinds of music the quality of the sound matters to me loudness is always there . I do have a question I'm ordering a 15 vxf 1500 watt RMS SQ SPL . Im thinking 4 ohm because when i get the other one i can wire down to 1 ohm or should I get 2 ohm? , how would it do with audiopipe 1800.1 1800 w RMS.
I'm more into the quality of the sound. That being said I am running a single vxf15 on skv.2 1500.1. This thing hits hard and sounds clear. Took a while to purchase this setup. Last system I had was years ago jl audio 15w3 on a directed 600d. Not quite as clean as the jl but definitely close.
I didn't really have a choice, because I'm running an 18" ZVX. Out of maybe 30 enclosures I've built, I never had one dig deeper, or sound cleaner. Maybe an 18" VXF would sound a little better.... "IF" they made one. I'm an SQL kind of guy, but I think the enclosure, and the DSP tuning make more difference than the actual sub woofer in question. Good video though :) TY.
I def agree. You really need to give a ZVX or any big sub like that some serious cubes to get it in it's element. Also meeting port area spec at bare minimum and ratio of port area per cube. But then again I do slot ports I know aeros can get away with less port area. I ran every sub size except 18 and I'm between going with a ZVX 18 or two vxf 15s prob will get the one 18.
Ty Parker great job I honestly bought my skar zvx 12 and my skv2 1500 amp because of your videos. I honestly have met spoke or messaged this guy but if you need info before buying something I'd recommend watching his videos.
I am working on a 2015 Toyota Crewmax and will have 8 VXF dual 2ohm 12’s on 8 Audiopipe AMPI 2000’s. Having a hard time with designing the setup for a second alternator but it should work out with time. Long way to go but should have the loudest Tundra Crewmax that I know of. One unique thing I’m doing is a snug with a accordion boot and retaining the factory rear power glass ! Also have 2 Skar VD 8’s behind the back seat in the cab in a prefab ported box for everyday listening and know one believes it !
VXF for the win. Look at the specs. If you listen to your subs and not just burp them, the FS and frequency response kills the ZVX. Same coil size and power handling. Leads are every bit as good on the VXF. Taking Parkers bias out of the equation. If you like something because of looks that's ok too. No worries. Performance wise the VXF is a clear choice. Of course Parker likes the Black Juice on his coils for whatever reason since there is NO verified evidence that any of the coatings make a difference. He really is hung up on the coating and unfounded criticism directed at the uncoated coil. Kind of weird. Both very strong subs at decent prices.
Copper coils more musical ,CCA is a muddier sounding coil . Depends on what the outcome u are looking for . I love it to get loud but with SQL I’d go with the vxf
I have great results as far as sql is concerned with my 2 zvx 12s on a sundown scv 4 k in a extended cab s10. Just like any other sub in different vehicles takes some testing and tuning to get it to its potential. I went thru 4 enclosures til I got the sound I was looking for. Parker, would you sell the zvx?
Parker, aren't you glad I suggested to you several times to do this video? You're coming up on 100K views! Congrats! Glad I could help. Another suggestion I have would be adding a Fi sub into the mix (Fi Neo). Fi now builds them in about a week, not 3 months as before. Eventually you could compare Fi vs Deaf Bonce vs Sundown vs DC vs PSI vs Crossfire. I suggest having several different boxes on hand (volume, adjustable port area, and adjustable tuning) and use the one that is closest to the sub's manufacturer's volume suggestion (middle of the road) bcuz using the same box for all subs will hurt the SPL score for subs built to require a larger enclosure (3ft³), and larger port area (16in² per net vol ft). I also suggest you remind viewers in every video the box specs and say how just bcuz a sub doesn't perform well in this specific box doesn't mean it can't have better SPL if in appropriate suggested enclosure.
You should check out some incriminator audio subs. The lethal injections sounds amazing, gets low as hell, and pounds. Some of the best pound for pound subs I’ve ever owned.
@Creighton Mehring I've heard the vxf's before they're pretty decent all around. But the zvx's fucking smash the lows. And that's what I was looking for.
This is my opinion, the vxf is more musical, the zvx is just for slamming in competitions or whatever the application is for it. I got the vxf 12 on an rp.2000 watt skar wired at 1 ohm in a custom box tuned to 32 hz🔥🔥🔥
Hey Parker your doing awesome with your channel really stepping it up! You are very familiar with American Bass and I cannot figure them out there prices (from there site) features and specs are all over the place... On there site in the 15" $200-$300 price range the elite is the most expensive? And it's steel and 150oz magnet? The xfl is 2nd with 200oz cast but 1000w rating, then XR 200oz cast with 1500w then the TNT 200oz cast and 1500wrms?? I'm confused why is the steel elite the top one is That price range?? I can't get a 2nd NVX VCW15 at moment nor a factory recone for my broke VCW15.. so I may switch it up to American bass but I'm baffled at there prices and ratings, I do not want an steel basket it just seems cheesy plus may mount them inverted also so the elite is out of the choices. Any info clear up the confusion.
I've been wondering the same I know skar makes some bangers but I've heard they can have issues with their coils, I haven't had any experience with the AB but they seem to have better quality just not sure about their sound or durability.
@@timothyanderson2608 ... Since then, I played with both. I been playing with American bass even before I made this comment. But I became new to skat after I made this comment. But if you tell me what you are looking for, then I'll be able to tell you exactly what you should get.
@@johndough4338 which has better sound quality on music for hours of everyday use?Which is better at dissipating heat? Which has more throw outside the vehicle specifically at the front of vehicle? Which one is more reliable in terms of years of use with no issues?
During this whole time I'm wondering is the box that you are testing then in, built and tuned to the frequency specs of each one of these particular subwoofers? my guesstimation is no...? That would help all factors....
Parker get some resilient sounds gold and some platinum and make a comparison. I'm thinking of getting some , I hear alot of good things about them.😉👍 love your videos brother , keep up the good work 👍🔊🔊🔊🔊
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Skar Audio designed the VXF subwoofer series to have the perfect combination of SQ and SPL features alike. Utilizing a high temperature 3" dual voice coil, and massive 300oz motor, the VXF's get extremely loud while sounding incredible. Conservatively rated at 3,000 watts max power.
You mean China designed the VXF to perform the way it does. Skar just put a name on it. I have two of them, not hating only stating facts.
@@theinsaneunknown they're all from China ya fkn dingus
@GTILOUD All subs aren't from China, you are the real dingus.
@@theinsaneunknown A lot of things are made in China and multiple major brands just slap a name on them. I have many of those examples, not hating only stating facts
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Parker you're always smiling love it.
That’s cuz all the bass 😁😁😁
ZVX owner for several months.... it's a great compromise sub. Loud but accurate across several types of music styles. Daily pounder
The VXF would be my choice. It hit the lows a lot better than the ZVX. Great video!
The zvx just wants to be in a different box here’s the zvx hitting the lows ruclips.net/video/HcqRCQ24XKk/видео.html but its more for spl if you more on the sq side then yeah vxf definitely better
Which would you recommend the skar vxf or the kickers l7
Ivan’s music and video Guy definitely skar audio vxf
Ivan’s music and video Guy and put em on an 6000 watt amp or 2 taramp smart 3ks
bass brothers ok thank you
i have 2 of the zvx 12" and i run them on a 5,000 watt amp, not once have they had a problem, extremely powerful, and the sound quality is great in my vehicle
For me it would have to be the VXF,more of a high power sound quality! Great comparison Parker!
I’d personally pick the vxf. My friend has a single vxf 15 with a Skar rp2k amp doing 146-147db sealed on the dash in a Saturn suv. Very impressive how loud it is and I’m sure it can take even more clean power. Seems like some companies dont know there speakers specs 100%. Thanks Parker
Does he have an extra battery or alternator?
@@trickedoutequinox3265 stock alt maybe a battery even though I didn’t see. They had a false floor where the amp etc was
High output alternator, secondary battery, 3.5 farad caapacitor does the trick
The vxf definitely my choice cause you can hear the quality even in headphones! Good vid bro
The difference in them is the box you can't take a sub that needs lower tuned box and put them in the same box there is going to be a big difference so box is the biggest thing you need a box that's tuned around 30 hz and a box tuned around 35-40 hz to be able to test and get more of an accurate feel for each sub in my opinion
I mean true but a lot of people are just going to drop a new Sub in their box, plus a lot of vehicles only have a certain amount of space so building a new box may not be possible, that being said I feel like this is still a valid test for those reasons. But you are absolutely correct it should be in a box built by the TS parameters to really know the differences in sound quality ,and output.
@Babyk Most videos I watch make it seem like it doesn't get low as it should, but there's a whole bunch of videos with the Sundown X playing lows real well. I have the vxf 12s, but I'm about to get the Sundown X v3 12s.
@Babyk I understand that people think they play lows good, but these videos are not that far off. You must have heard the most shitty setup if you can't tell the difference between a 95 pound sub vs a 57 pound sub. There is a guy on RUclips that had 4 15 zvx and switched to Sundown and said it was better. The x12 v3 is 70 pounds. I've been building boxes for a long time and some subs just don't do good. I have some old Sa15s that don't play lows worth a damn, but I dropped some Audioque 15s street duty in the same box and the lows were very deep. I don't need any 15s now because I already have too many subs now. I don't need the Sundown X either, but I just want to try them out.
@Babyk The weight means more motor force. You can't meter higher than a zv5 because they take more power than a zvx. 2 zv5s can take 8000 watts all day, but the zvx would burn up. I could care less why someone switched to Deaf Bonce, but I know it is a very good brand. Sundown is on sale and I'm not trying to spend 800-900 on one sub. Like I said before, you must have heard a bad Sundown install because the zvx can't keep up. Skar would have put Sundown out of business by now if that were true. I've never heard anyone on any forum recommend the zvx over Sundown. It can't keep up with an American Bass xmaxxx Monster or DC level 5 which is similar to zv5's power handling. I'm not trying to turn you against Skar. If you like it, that's all that matters because some people think L7s sound good, but they don't. The DNR sub they stopped making could compete, but the zvx is not on the same level as the ones I named.
@@drjd2real my boy has a x15v3 and it doe crush the lows but it crushes n takes all 5k of that salt 4 at 1 ohm
1 vxf 15" on 1500 watts for a couple years. Banger. Loudest I've ever heard in person, which isn't as loud as competition stuff obviously, but never heard a better sounding/shaking sub in my own experience. Vibrates the air in the cabin, sounds amazingly clean, pounds the roof and back hatch pretty good.
I love what you do Parker. Keep up the good work bro. I'm actually a S.A. fan but decided to try some Skar subs for giggles. So glad I did. Not sure of the longevity of them yet but so far AWESOME!! subs. My 20yr home audio theater build is 48,000 REAL WATTS, CLEAN RMS and is audiophile grade SQ. But my Semi on the other hand, I just wanted to get outright loud.
Mission accomplished!!! Currently running 2 ZVX 12"d1 in my 2020 Peterbuilt, in a compound loaded isobaric 6th order, tuned at 28-50hz. Everyone swears my truck is full of subs LMAO. Lows not as good but It's def louder than my X15's where by far. not to mention way less weight and take less space. It is SOOOO LOUD You absolutely cannot see straight at 45-50 hz. and when it hits, it literally feels like someone hit your entire body with a giant feather pillow. For what I payed for them. But imo! It's a BUDGET STEAL NO DOUBT!
I Love my ZVX's
48,000 ! WHAAAT, dang bro you jammin' love to stop bye an jam a min.
I’d go with the vfx. I’m old though and care more about what it sounds like in the car and hitting the lows than getting loud.
parker you have to release your spotify playlist! im constantly trying to find new bass songs and im slowing running out of luck but theres many songs that you play that I dont recognise.
Your channel helps out alot man good stuff! Keep it up
I like the VXF better wish they came I'm 18"
“Can take the power” legit goes peak to peak on a couple hundred more watts than rated 🤣🤣
A couple hundred? Did you watch the same video I did?
The ZVX have been the most brutal, violent SPL beasts & the VXF’s have been the smoothest, cleanest, pleasant sounding bandwidth friendly subs, I’d say VXF 1,500-2,000 watts clean for music, 3,000-3,500 watts clean for burps, ZVX 2,000-3,000 watts clean for music, 3,000-4,500 watts clean for burps...
VXF all day, looks better and performs better & cheaper! Lol
Depends what your definition of performs better is.
Well you’re right about one thing, it’s cheaper
SILLY SILLY MAN
I got the VXF-12-2was thinking about getting the VXF-15-2
If placed in the right box and turned properly with steady power supply ... The VXF-12-2 is absolutely amazing. Especially for the price.
Especially if you fully sound proof atleast your trunk and have fans or good air flow.
I have an ORION XTR-2250 "THE BEAST" with 200 amp alternator, "Big 4" upgrade, of course OFC 0\1 wire through out, super beefy RCA's, SKAR EQ, .....and much more. Still working on it.
I got a VXF 15 ..got a md5k pushing it. But my electrical can not keep up. But the sound is a beast
Thanks bro great video as usual 👌 sundown x12, js would love to see how it stacks up against that VXF, js
you should make a playlist for the songs you play on your subs
Agreed 2 years later
I need to know the name of the song 8:17
I just got the VTX today and after looking at sundown. I'm going to base all my hearing ability off of a JL audio w7 which got stole out of my car a few years back. I don't expect this speaker to even come close. I am very impressed with the build of Skar! I am literally waiting on the FedEx truck now for the Skar box... I have watched a few of your videos and they are very informative coming from a ex contester. Just getting back in it after 12 years. I'm running mine off of a Directed D -2400 at the time I paid around $2,300 for this amplifier one ohm stable. I am very excited to see what this sub does in my car. I believe once broke in though through the controls of a really good head unit me I'm a Pioneer fan. The head unit gives you so much flexibility for the subwoofer. And once broke in which is going to take a while with the VTX model the foam will become able to flex more. The spider will break in before the foam gasket will. At least that's what I've learned over time but I'm sure you break all your speakers in. Me I like that a little more base than anything else I can contour it to my own ear specifications hopefully. But wanted to thank you for making these videos I know you do get money for these awesome speakers. But I understand what you do takes a lot out of your back! I installed for years! Except back then we didn't have nothing like this! And I may just upgrade to sundown but I believe the build behind the subwoofer I chose is a lot better as far as moving air around and keeping the speaker itself at a good cool running temperature
I sold my W6 and it worth buying a VXF not only did it hit harder but it also took more power.
How'd it go? My two Solo Baric L7s got stolen out of my car and I'm looktfor replacements. I want a W7 or two... Maybe an MTX 7500 if I go cheaper... But if these are any good... I may skip them both and get this.
I've heard W7s they were great but i wasnt blown away tbh. Not after having two L7s for so long.
I watch your videos everynight keep it goin bro showin love from Memphis
The sensitivity means you can power up the sub quicker so I like the VXF better.
so i personally like the vxf for SQL all day i have 2 XFL american bass that dont hit certain notes as good but will out SPL these VXF all day ........had both on a taramps 8k both handle it well for both being 1500/3000....the skar fanboys might not like this but the XFL def hit harder i kept em in my slab
wow i could tell the same thing just listen on my pc. i do have a good 2.1 setup though. i know its not the same as in person but surprised i was able to hear a difference. you could even see it. the vxf seemed to stay more linear and musical.
Good comparison video Parker. Definitely was looking forward to this showdown. The VXF gets my vote. I like SPL, but I also need my music to sound good, and the VXF seems more tight and controlled and gets lower. I'll save $120 and get 2 VXF 15's in the future because they will easily handle the 3,500 ish watts my Orion XTR 2500.1 puts out. Looking forward to the Soundqubed HDX series tests, and hopefully a $250 - $300 sub showdown in the future as well. That's the price range I will be shopping in for sure, and I'm sure a lot of others shop in that price range as well for 1 or 2 of the 1500 to 2000 watt range subwoofers.
I have 3 of the zvx and it's borderline nuts. I 100% do agree that they don't really sound the best with all music (not bad though). If SPL is your goal its a no brainier. One thing though I started with a plain ported box but have moved to a 6th order and it's a whole new level, WINDY AF! Love all SKAR products
i just got two of the ZVXV2 12's and someone told me to do a 6th order box. was it a big difference when you put them in the new 6th order? was it worth it, i am pumped ive never had a 6th order box and these subs are perfect for one. what amp do you have powering them? can you float anything or small hair movement
At that time I was running an MD 8k (taramps). Now was it worth it. I believe so, main reason is it was much more efficient and I had a bit more bandwidth (range). Now I’ve moved to one 18” in a plain ported. I will admit that at times I miss the SPL part of the 6th order but the flatness of this setup it awesome. I would say if you have the money build one and also build a nice ported box @ around 30-32 Hz and see what sounds best.
I'm running 4 skar audio vxf 12's in my 08 tahoe I'm about to try a new brand of amplifier called corzus 10k just to see where it leads wish me luck 🤙🤙🤙
Corzus amps are Brazilian monsters trust me when I tell you you’ll get every penny worth out of it be carful they love to eat power very fast make sure your electrical can handle the power draw
i would like to see more video of the smd meter. to show how much difference there is in each woofer during music. the vxf seemed to stay around 1500 watts more. the zvx seemed more peaky. i would think thats a good thing but it didnt seem to translate to being musical. really hard to tell from the few seconds you showed the meter. would you say the zvx had more of a swing? i wonder if the vxf stays in the gap more or less. seemed more consistent. triple or double magnet? one seems wider while the other is taller.
The VXF need a 2 cubic feet, 33hz box, port area 29.75 sq in.
The ZVX needs 3 cubic feet, 34hz box, port area 38 sq in.
You do the tests with the same box for both subs
The box was made for the zvx anyways.
The VXF has better sound to me🤷🏾♂️ The lows on it just take the cake for me. I'm assuming you are running these at a 1ohm load. How do the EVL series compare? Another great review.!
i got an evl 8 inch at 900 watts rms on a pioneer amp. It gets as low or lower than my 12 inch ddx honestly.
@Lo Yuen why did it die?
A 200$ sub should have a longer life than that
I'm running an 8evl in a skar ported enclosure on an alpine mrv m1200. Half gain and everyone is is really impressed and amazed. Way to go skar!
That Zvx was going up to the high 7's in ohm load. Where the V was only going about 5.
Is that good or bad?
technically the vxf would be getting worse and less sound with higher ohms, 1 ohm produces the most power out of amp and lets say 4 ohms would produce 3 times less. so if a amp is 4000 watt 1 ohm stable and 4000 watt, that would mean 2 ohm would be 3450 watt, 3 2750 watt and so forth. so in his case the vxf was taking more power, and producing hard hitting LOW fq bass, while the zvx was produce a faster and higher fq, while using less power.
Very good quality video answered all the questions I had went a little above and beyond my expectations of a review keep it up man you’re doing great I liked and subscribed because I feel your review was top-notch
The zvx is a low end monster and eats power I had 5k RMS on my zvx 15 for months with no issues and have videos of it eating low 20hz on 5k
Post the vids
Want to see this
Make a video
It will take it all day both subs will.
Will two zvx 15s go good on 8000 watts
Picked up 2 VXF 15s earlier this year. Going into a sealed box and into the hatch of a ford focus ZX3.
Gah damn that vxf slamming clean ass video parker just ordered a vxf 12 d2 last night bro
Sill have it ?
ZVX has taller motor of smaller diameter for the increased stroke. It keeps the coil in the magnetic gap through more of the stroke (or throughout the stroke).
I didn't see the SPL results, just saw them after two comments, anyways the VXF should set higher numbers for sure!
I’m absolutely in love with my zvx v2 18d2...still breaking it in..it’s getting better and better and I’m getting harder and harder...I think I’m gonna marry it..straight up..zvx v2 all the way!!! SPL life!!!
What lows can you achieve?
@@dustinbulger1239 about 27 goes really hard. I can go a little lower but it starts to scare me it flexis so hard. I have a 6fc box tuned to 32. The zvx18v2 is truly an amazing subwoofer.
Ok because im looking at a 15 zvx v2 for 300 cad and i like my lows like 25 to 40hz so i want to know if this will take it all day long. I usually drive 3+ hrs a day
@@dustinbulger1239 yes, give it a good 10hrs on medium to medium high volume to get fully broken in. Mine has about 50hours and it’s getting better and better. It can def take it. I’m pushing 2k tru watts at 1ohm 14.2volts
I'd like to see the EVL in comparison to both of these. I already have 2 12" EVL's with a SKv2-3500.1D amp pushing them , I was thinking about getting the VXF subs and sticking them into the EVL box
Do it lol the vxf series is all about sq and way better compared to the evls.
Man I’m tryna build a tune enclosure for my evls
My son has 2 12 in evl dual 4ohm on a taramp smart 3k. It pounds. My oldest son has the same amp and just received one of the 12 inch dual vc 2ohm ZVX and it’s slamming as hard as the two EVL’s.
You may have to do this video over. The ZVX needs a 3 cubic foot box. I believe your box is around 2.5. But even so, love your videos.
I like the comparison and your honesty. Thanks Parker
I’m quickly realizing how far the industry has come since I’ve been away. Trying to get back into it after about 25 years or so. These are impressive works
This video was incredibly helpful thanks
I have 4 zvxv2 18dv1 on 1 Wolfram aw9000.1 wired down to .5 ohms, it can hit from 10 to about 60 hz no problem, I still need to fix my box and wall and I need more power and more electrical but I think they sound better than anything I've ever heard before, of course I have not been able to compare with any newer systems, I have been confined to the city of Wichita KS where the bass community is almost non existent
If you ever wanna do amp reviews you should review the skar skv2! They’re Korean boards and one of the best amps out there!
the Devilish Trio at 10:34 caught me off guard... didn't expect to hear one of their songs in any videos like this anytime soon
I have a skv2 2500 pushing dual 1ohm zvx 12s in the skar prefabed ported box. Tuned at 33 hertz. Sounds insane. Only upgrade i have is the big 3 and added another battery. I should of gone with the 3500 but was on a budget. All I can say is that skar backs up what it says on the audio. The lows in my set up is crazy. If you can't hear it, you will definitely feel it
I run two 12” VXF D2’s. Each on their own amp. The SKV2-3500. And I am extremely happy with them. The VXF is the better sub in my experience.
Each sub holding that 3500 well?
Also not many people take into account the sensitivity rating...the vxf has a higher sensitivity rating so it doesn't take as much to get as loud...like my ddx 12 has a 90plus sensitivity rating so it gets loud quick especially since I only have 800 watts going to it
I know a couple of zvx builds personally.....u wouldn't walk away saying they dont get low.
I have zvx and they hit Violently
My zvx12s hit lower than my dash can take and ones 12 ft away even !!
@@meredneck4622 my 2 zvx 18s do a 57 at 32hz. My brother had 8 15s zvxs....did a 62 at 34hz
I personally like the look of the zvx better but the vxf is a better option if the get the 15 and zvx is better if you want a 12 or lower
I was honestly looking at the vxf 15’s before I bought the zvx 15’s. So far in impressed with them. I wanted a sub that plays a little bit of everything
How could anybody give this a thumbs down OMG best video sub comparison I have ever seen dude you're awesome beautiful taking the chance with your subwoofers with that tar amplifier knowing how much distortion those amplifiers have. Just for the record I'm pushing 60 years old always been a DJ for many years and your video by far is the best. I would go with the vxf because I listen to all kinds of music the quality of the sound matters to me loudness is always there . I do have a question I'm ordering a 15 vxf 1500 watt RMS SQ SPL . Im thinking 4 ohm because when i get the other one i can wire down to 1 ohm or should I get 2 ohm? , how would it do with audiopipe 1800.1 1800 w RMS.
Really enjoying your content! Keep pushing and keep doing you!👌
I'm more into the quality of the sound. That being said I am running a single vxf15 on skv.2 1500.1. This thing hits hard and sounds clear. Took a while to purchase this setup. Last system I had was years ago jl audio 15w3 on a directed 600d. Not quite as clean as the jl but definitely close.
Did you have to upgrade your power supply?(battery etc)
I didn't really have a choice, because I'm running an 18" ZVX. Out of maybe 30 enclosures I've built, I never had one dig deeper, or sound cleaner. Maybe an 18" VXF would sound a little better.... "IF" they made one. I'm an SQL kind of guy, but I think the enclosure, and the DSP tuning make more difference than the actual sub woofer in question. Good video though :) TY.
I def agree. You really need to give a ZVX or any big sub like that some serious cubes to get it in it's element. Also meeting port area spec at bare minimum and ratio of port area per cube. But then again I do slot ports I know aeros can get away with less port area. I ran every sub size except 18 and I'm between going with a ZVX 18 or two vxf 15s prob will get the one 18.
Ty Parker great job I honestly bought my skar zvx 12 and my skv2 1500 amp because of your videos. I honestly have met spoke or messaged this guy but if you need info before buying something I'd recommend watching his videos.
Great !!! Thank you so much for this review !!! I have the vxf-15's !!! Can't wait to hook them up !!!
I am working on a 2015 Toyota Crewmax and will have 8 VXF dual 2ohm 12’s on 8 Audiopipe AMPI 2000’s. Having a hard time with designing the setup for a second alternator but it should work out with time. Long way to go but should have the loudest Tundra Crewmax that I know of. One unique thing I’m doing is a snug with a accordion boot and retaining the factory rear power glass ! Also have 2 Skar VD 8’s behind the back seat in the cab in a prefab ported box for everyday listening and know one believes it !
yo parker when you gonna sell some merch
I’m note sure! Don’t know if anyone would buy any 😂
Start a clean out for new merch thread. I'm sure you will be surprised 👍
I'd buy some stickers
gotta roll with the times. parker sell face masks and hand sanitizers
I’d buy one of those skar subs if you decide to sell them
Master will got 4 of those vxf 15's with over 12,000 watts clamped power on them and hit over 155 .amps are at .25 ohm
56 and they are 15s bro.
I think he’s running the 4-15” ZVX v2 now actually
@Elijah Dossett he actually is running the 4 zvx setup each on a 4500
@@ResnicksRvingJourney you right about them being 15s but they are vxf
@@gentlemancallers1305 watch the video on Jacobs channel
Bones and devilish trio! Good music taste 👍
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VXF for the win. Look at the specs. If you listen to your subs and not just burp them, the FS and frequency response kills the ZVX. Same coil size and power handling. Leads are every bit as good on the VXF. Taking Parkers bias out of the equation. If you like something because of looks that's ok too. No worries. Performance wise the VXF is a clear choice. Of course Parker likes the Black Juice on his coils for whatever reason since there is NO verified evidence that any of the coatings make a difference. He really is hung up on the coating and unfounded criticism directed at the uncoated coil. Kind of weird. Both very strong subs at decent prices.
Thanks for the comparison bud
You are welcome!
I like lows but i also wanna hear the bass in songs like "Guess whos back" by Scarface
Or smile with him n Pac. I love the low bass steps then jumps back high for the start of the bar.
The ZVX would do better for that. Hits lows and highs too
Running a 1501d and Skar EVL 15 in a 4.5 cube box and it's very clear tons of bass more of an sql sub hits all areas very cleanly
I would get 2 vxf subs to match the Zvx output and focus on the sound quality 👍
Could you get a PSI recone kit if it blew and rebuild it?
Copper coils more musical ,CCA is a muddier sounding coil . Depends on what the outcome u are looking for . I love it to get loud but with SQL I’d go with the vxf
Daum I just bought my second zvx today glad I did there beasts
I have my zvx 12 in a 2.9 ft^3 box, that box you're using doesn't look near the right size to be testing lows on it, idk maybe I'm wrong.
Right! That box is WAY too small for low hz.
Wow the 15 Xmax is 29mm and 30mm on the cheaper one ... what are you running daily (American Bass) ? Thanks P, great as always.
Dailying the ZVX at the moment
Great video! thanks!!
I have great results as far as sql is concerned with my 2 zvx 12s on a sundown scv 4 k in a extended cab s10. Just like any other sub in different vehicles takes some testing and tuning to get it to its potential. I went thru 4 enclosures til I got the sound I was looking for. Parker, would you sell the zvx?
Sounds dope!! Love to see your dime!! I have a static S10
Great video man
VXF was hittn them lows real nice id go with it personally
crisp lows and loud... feel your bones vibrate in your body.... sweeeet
Either will work for me. Just run a pair. 2k watts doesn't really matter what you have as long as they handle 2k.
Parker, aren't you glad I suggested to you several times to do this video? You're coming up on 100K views! Congrats! Glad I could help. Another suggestion I have would be adding a Fi sub into the mix (Fi Neo). Fi now builds them in about a week, not 3 months as before. Eventually you could compare Fi vs Deaf Bonce vs Sundown vs DC vs PSI vs Crossfire. I suggest having several different boxes on hand (volume, adjustable port area, and adjustable tuning) and use the one that is closest to the sub's manufacturer's volume suggestion (middle of the road) bcuz using the same box for all subs will hurt the SPL score for subs built to require a larger enclosure (3ft³), and larger port area (16in² per net vol ft). I also suggest you remind viewers in every video the box specs and say how just bcuz a sub doesn't perform well in this specific box doesn't mean it can't have better SPL if in appropriate suggested enclosure.
Youre taking credit for his achievement of 100k views. Youre weird.
The vxf seemed to be more stable at 4 ohms where the other seemed to bounce around more ohms wise. Not sure why that is
I got 2 VXF 12s with the skv2 1500.1d and I love it! Very great sound quality!
You have 2 1500 rms running on 1500 total? How many ohms?
Dude put that on a skv4500 PLEASE
@@AudioEuphoria080 Fr. I got the SKv2.1500 on the SVR’s 😂
@@BlueCollarWorker2 i forgot i commented that lol
@@AudioEuphoria080 My bad I’m late homie. Just came here to see the different opinions and gain some knowledge in the process.
You should check out some incriminator audio subs. The lethal injections sounds amazing, gets low as hell, and pounds. Some of the best pound for pound subs I’ve ever owned.
Appreciate the Comparison 👌🏽
Yessir!
I just ordered 3 of the zvx 15's!
@Creighton Mehring I've heard the vxf's before they're pretty decent all around. But the zvx's fucking smash the lows. And that's what I was looking for.
@@normhiscock352 i have heard 20 to 35 hz on zvx 15v2 and it was amazing
I like how he plays devilish trio they got some of the best bass songs
Love my ZVX-18, very badass subwoofer.
One of my favorites brands.SKAR.
This is my opinion, the vxf is more musical, the zvx is just for slamming in competitions or whatever the application is for it. I got the vxf 12 on an rp.2000 watt skar wired at 1 ohm in a custom box tuned to 32 hz🔥🔥🔥
Well far as sound quality would it be the vxf or the xr ?thats the real question
Bro wee Neeeeded This video!!
What electrical should I get I have a 4500 and two 15s vxf with a four channel 75.5
VXF for me. Great video. Thanks.
Hey Parker your doing awesome with your channel really stepping it up! You are very familiar with American Bass and I cannot figure them out there prices (from there site) features and specs are all over the place... On there site in the 15" $200-$300 price range the elite is the most expensive? And it's steel and 150oz magnet? The xfl is 2nd with 200oz cast but 1000w rating, then XR 200oz cast with 1500w then the TNT 200oz cast and 1500wrms?? I'm confused why is the steel elite the top one is That price range?? I can't get a 2nd NVX VCW15 at moment nor a factory recone for my broke VCW15.. so I may switch it up to American bass but I'm baffled at there prices and ratings, I do not want an steel basket it just seems cheesy plus may mount them inverted also so the elite is out of the choices. Any info clear up the confusion.
Hey Parker, how does the american bass Hd compare to these two skar subs? Please give me your honest opinion to. I'm about to purchase something soon
I've been wondering the same I know skar makes some bangers but I've heard they can have issues with their coils, I haven't had any experience with the AB but they seem to have better quality just not sure about their sound or durability.
@@timothyanderson2608 ... Since then, I played with both. I been playing with American bass even before I made this comment. But I became new to skat after I made this comment. But if you tell me what you are looking for, then I'll be able to tell you exactly what you should get.
@@johndough4338 which has better sound quality on music for hours of everyday use?Which is better at dissipating heat? Which has more throw outside the vehicle specifically at the front of vehicle? Which one is more reliable in terms of years of use with no issues?
During this whole time I'm wondering is the box that you are testing then in, built and tuned to the frequency specs of each one of these particular subwoofers? my guesstimation is no...?
That would help all factors....
Yeah that zvx definitely needs to be in a bigger box tuned to it’s specs
Parker get some resilient sounds gold and some platinum and make a comparison. I'm thinking of getting some , I hear alot of good things about them.😉👍 love your videos brother , keep up the good work 👍🔊🔊🔊🔊
Which is the best lt was a great benefit to be told